If you drop an f-bomb within the first minute it can mess up your whole video or if you say too many curse words like "hell" but yeah they can't fix the bots like I still see every time there is a technoblade video that is made these days there's always bot comments with the most horrific things spammed hundreds of times.
RUclips is also doing things like pushing ads for "mental health apps" like Liven. I checked the online reviews and reddit posts about the app. Its predatory af. The thing is, no matter how many times I block Liven app ads, they still come up. I honestly feel harassed and powerless to control something as simple as my feed
RUclipsrs have had to change the way they talk about serious topics, self-censoring in the most ridiculous way even if they're talking about it respectfully. Topics like suicide or abuse need to be discussed (with care) because they are a thing and cannot just be swept under the rug to appease advertisers.
@@DaddyDumptruckDeluxei can never imagine bootlicking for a megacorp that's worth billions, treats it's creators like crap and continue to have inappropriate ads 😂 but you're concerned they have the *right* to go after a 3rd party service that makes the site better... You might be a bot lol
I reported an ad from temu offering an iPhone 15 for $10. I obviosly know it's a scam, but after working at a call center I know how many dumb people there is out there. Anyway, I have continued to be shown this ad and I feel like it's the only ad they have showed me since the report. Annoying af.
The fact that phones are even allowed during class today is baffling to me. I graduated in 2013. We all had iPhones and androids during high school. But we were never allowed to have them out during school. I remember teachers taking them and keeping them for the entirety of the class if they did see you. I remember having to sneak texts in my backpack. I was only allowed to have them out during art classes for references sometimes because my teacher was cool and let us listen to music while we painted. One time I got detention and my phone taken away until my parents came and got it. All because I was signing out of a class to leave and you would have to write down what time you left, so without thinking I pulled my phone out of my pocket and checked the time on my phone. Lady working at the office saw it and I got in trouble. To think that today kids can be on their phones all throughout class without any consequences is wild to me. 😭
Some Kids these days will physically fight you, storm out of school, and do not give a single flying fuck about detention and there is little to no support coming from the family at home
Currently have two teens in High School. This is only half of the story and the other half is how the software the schools purchase to keep youtube and snapchat and tiktok from being on their chromebooks and ipads is worthless. My freshman was watching anime in her math class. My sophomore was snapping her friends and other such activities while during school. The adults who run the schools grossly overestimate how much is only the phones when my kids have had ipads or chromebooks since elementary school.
in the mid 90's we weren't even allowed calculator watches at my school, anything went beep and the teacher's head snapped up and started doing a scan of the room like they were the newest terminator model. still feels weird sometimes to me that cellphones are not just phones but a pocket sized multimedia center and mini supercomputer now, and such a part of life we can't leave the house without em from childhood. even in college during the rise of cellphones becoming widespread we as grown adults weren't allowed to just pull em out anytime during class, and they had to be quieted during.
@@blackdandelion5549 I graduated 2014 and we had iPads in school. Teachers had wifi jammers in their classrooms and had them on except for free periods/study halls and researching. (When researching, outside of seniors, they'd walk around and look at your screen (small classes)).
There was a movement last year by several schools here (Ireland) to have all the parents in a school agree not to buy their kids smart phones (primary school so 4-13 year olds). The point being that it is reassuring for them to be able to call or text parents in an emergency but they don't need to be able to use the internet, and by having it be agreed by all the parents it became easier to enforce because none of the kids were 'left out" because their classmates couldn't have smart phones either.
Yup- i'm not buying my kids a smartphone but I *will* get them a normal phone (a plain, only for calls one). They need the phone. But no, they do not need the internet that ready and at their fingers- it has been proven it's very damaging to be on social media at all times *and* harms their school ability :(
Part of me hopes shitty flip phones will come back into style for this purpose. Mostly because I'm very nostalgic about my first phone and also because seeing a 6 year old with an iphone gives me so much anxiety.
I was in school from 1991 - 2005 and virtually no one had a phone. Even when i was in high school the only phones were flip phones and maybe mid way into high school did phones have cameras on them and by graduation the first keyboard phones came out to replace T9 texting. The first smart phone did not come out till 2007. I feel my generation (Millenial) was the last generation without phones in schools and without social media. As a result i'm not as addicted to my phone as kids are today. When me and my wife go out, the only time we bring out our phones is either to check the time or be annoying and take pictures of our food, but we don't post them on social media, we just send it to a friend later once we get home, but the whole date and meal is just us talking to one another. I am horribly addicted to my computer, and as a result i have lost contact with many friends but they are friends i made in school. I can't imagine how hard it is for kids to make and retain friends when they are addicted to their phones all day and not building those relationships. If parents need to contact their kids in school then they can do what my parents would do and call the school and the school can make an announcement or call the class the kid is in.
I have a friend that needs to occasionally post on FB to have people call 911 to the school cause she's chronically ill and no one checks on her in the bathroom. It's sad, but it's true. There are needs to make mass posts.
@@ArchReverend I had my first cellphone in high school. When I did not have a cellphone when I was younger, I could not coordinate with my dad on when he'll pick me up from school. Sometimes my sis and I would wait at the waiting area for as long as 4 hours (we have to keep looking at the gate the whole time. It's super stressful). If we have cellphones back then, we could have studied at the library or play with our friends. (My school's waiting area was not conducive to studying)
I mean, CP has always been an issue with RUclips. There are a couple channels that got heat a while back that had video with women and children that seems innocent but almost always had had the woman or child at odd angles and positions, creeped a lot of people out. There are some dubious content is out there and there are plenty of scumbags trying to get past the system trying to either game the system or overload it to get something past.
it's wild that they're talking about limiting cellphone usage in schools because when I was growing up if we were caught on our phones texting, playing snake or tetris (before we all got the first smartphones ever), or taking pictures we had to hand our phones over to our teachers and depending on how mean they wanted to be they would either give the phone back at the end of the period or you'd have to fight your way to that classroom after the last bell rang and grab your phone before you missed your bus (which sucked cuz you either had to find a new ride or wait til your parent or someone else could come get you). like it's so wild to me when I see all these tiktoks from kids in school and nobody takes them away because mine would've been taken in a heartbeat 🙄😡
To anyone who wants an explanation, the bots exploit a unicode where it uses right-to-left characters to flip text that makes their comment look backwards to the system. To us, the comment looks normal because the characters are displayed correctly.
Whilst things get vastly more complicated for other languages, a great place to start for English (which, is the majority of comments and content on RUclips) might be to restrict comments to what can be typed out on an English keyboard, whether that be the basic set of ASCII characters, or a restricted set of Unicode characters, disallowing the use of copy-pasted custom text (though preferably without disallowing copy-pasted text as a whole). Secondarily, a loooot of these bots copy and paste top comments, or comment the same or very similar things across several popular videos. It should be trivial for RUclips to come up with a filter for that.
i would like to say before anyone says " alec baldwin was a producer on set, so he was responsible for the safety of the set" while baldwin was 1 of like 10 producers his responsibility as producer was merely creative in nature he was responsible for casting and script revisions and nothing else. he literally had no authority to control safety on the set. OSHA already found him not culpable
I'm a teacher in Australia and we have a policy that students are allowed to have their phones on them but if they use them whilst on school grounds without permission they then get it taken off them for the day. We've got all the same benefits that were being listed for the pouches without having to take phones off the entire school for the day. The biggest problem we have is parents still messaging their kids throughout the day despite wanting this policy.
I graduated before full phone ban waves came into effect, most I got was a stern "No phones in class", but I'm glad there is still the opportunity of using it. I used my phone to monitor my blood glucose levels as a T1 diabetic, teachers would often let students record things for projects or science experiments and getting alerts from parents or reminders for something scheduled was very useful. I guess it's a balance between how useful a phone can be to students and how much it disrupts teachers, and individual schools can make that call without it being inforced by governments. IMO the biggest thing that impacts learning is being singled out, being the one student with a phone was more often than not a source of embarassment, I'm still haunted by the 'ding' alert in the exam room and all eyes turned to me.
This is great in theory but not physically realistic in some US schools- esp if admin is not backing us up. I know a bunch of kids who would refuse and walk out or try to fight the adult trying to take their phone. And some of these kids are much bigger and stronger than staff.
@@boiqi often in the case of a phone being used for tracking blood glucose, students will have this written into a 504 or IEP plan, stating that they need access to their phone for medical reasons, even if there is a phone ban in place in the school itself.
I attended a school with the Yondr pouches. The main things I noticed were how frustrating it was for teachers who wanted to use phones during class to have to spend at least five minutes opening all the pouches, a switch from getting in trouble for being on a phone to getting in trouble for playing card games, and the fact that I have next to no photos with my friends because we weren’t even allowed to have them out during lunch. Not to mention that it was incredibly expensive to buy the pouches, students were buying magnet openers and charging others to unlock their phones, and all of us learned how to fake-close or jam/break the pouches by blocking or bending the needle. As for the comment about “you can just cut the pouches open with scissors” in an emergency, they’re WAY too heavy-duty for that, especially with cheap school scissors; if you’ve got a knife you could probably manage it, but if you have a knife at school then that’s an issue of its own.
I'm also in Australia, our school policy is that phones can be taken from students if/when they become an issue, and must be returned to students at the end of that class. I will often have a couple of phones sitting on my desk by the end of a class, but it works just fine.
So happy more creators are pushing RUclips to do something about the bots. Hoping other social platforms do the same thing. Reporting the bot accounts and comments seems to do nothing.
Still important to report and not engage with them though. But yeah it is shocking that more isn't being done by those with the power to do so. I can't believe folks are blaming the YTers though--as if they have control over more of the system than they do. Buckwild.
Blocking doesn't work either. It baffles me RUclips hasn't implemented a functional block button yet. Just a block button that insures we'd never see the comments and videos of the repeat offender block channels would go a long way in fixing the problem user side. I've "hidden" channels that I can confirm I still see despite the fact they're supposed to be hidden from my view. Just do like Facebook and, if they're blocked, you can't even visit their channel unless you willingly go to your settings and unblock them.
@@silversugar2140 I think there's an impression uploaders can block these bots from their channels, but it seems limited capacity and undersells just how many damn bots there are. It really is like a hydra and I know I can't blame creators for not hitting every bot in a game of infinite whack-a-mole.
Edit: the first part my comment, the part from the beginning to "channel -", is not really comprehensible; I do not know how to fix the comment. Supposing that this is not a bot - such as it's not the case that the bot is now hiding by looking like an innocent channel - I saw your message before, but it was from a comment of a bot that stole it from you.
Regarding schools and phones. I can see a ton of uses for those pouches and the general public (adults, kids & teens). Meetings, churches, another tool for the self-employed ... just for starters. Ten years ago my husband was auditing a few courses to earn a degree and the number of college students sitting at their desks with their phones in full view, not paying any attention to the instructor, shocked him. So it's not just school kids. Hell, think of all the grown ass adults that still use their phones directly while driving. My 72yr old sister got hit by a woman that had a phone to her ear while rounding a corner. (She's mostly okay but has needed therapy because it shook her up so much).
There was a post I saw on some site or another about people using them to restrict phone use during their wedding ceremony. They would literally put the phone in the pouch and hand it back to the person, so they had the phone physically with them at all times and were able to leave and unlock it if necessary. So it was shocking the amount of people that said they wouldn’t go to a wedding if they couldn’t have their phone out of the pouch during the ceremony. Something that lasts maybe an hour at most but is often just 20-30 minutes. Because that was too restrictive for them. People don’t even realize how attached they are to their phones as adults.
I love how RUclips will demonetize a channel and not even give a reason why so the creator can fix it, but they do NOTHING about the bots whatsoever. -.-
anything YT does, Bot account makers will find ways around. the problem is, Bot accounts are so easy to make and flood sites with, there is little downsides to running them. more so when people are dumb enough to trust them.
When every eligible voter votes, Republicans tend to lose elections. That's why Republican politicians put up hurdles to try to decrease the number of voters. They especially do this from statehouses targeting urban areas that tend to be more Democratic than Republican or colleges and universities for the same reason. They also gerrymander electoral areas more than Democrats because more fairly drawn voting maps also tend to lead to more Democratic victories.
Always remember, it's been decades since a Republican has won the popular vote. Basically they can only winning by gaming the system. And yeah, they have a full tool belt to manufacture this situation.
😂🤣😂🤣 when "surprise water leaks" and vote counts that used to take 1 night take 3 weeks... democrats win. They also leverage gerrymandering, immigration both legal and illegal with lax voter id laws, and exploit media especially social media to control low iq low information individuals who care about politics for 5 seconds every 4 years and get their marching orders from leftist hacks like... well. Phil.
both sides seem to have their tricks, Republicans with the hurdles you described and the Democrats leveraging immigration and voter ID laws to their benefit. Both sides are a mess.
@@MrFearDubh when you lack voter id requirements, have convenient water leaks in key ridings and take 3 weeks to count what used to take 1 night, democrats win
Yep, I live in Texas and it's why we've been fighting SO HARD and getting SO CLOSE to flipping the state blue (Ted Cruz only won by 2% last time and there was wonky shit going on with the voting machines and straight party tickets), but haven't been able to do it. Texas is one of, if not THE most gerrymandered state in the US. The Texas GOP has made it virtually impossible for Democrats to gain any power because of the way they've sliced and diced up our blue cities, and it's pathetic. They can't win legitimately, so they do shit like that while accusing Democrats of doing illegal shit to fix elections. 🙄
Having worked in a high school the last handful of years, this cell phone ban is going to be a doozy in its execution. The district I was working in started talking about implementing one at the end of the previous school year, and there were a number of admin that felt like it was a waste of time and were already preparing to be done with it weeks into the new school year. If there’s no support/want-to from the faculty to implement it & enforce it: it will fail. If parents don’t seriously crack down on their children and remind them that class isn’t for do-as-you-please cell phone use: it will fail
I can agree that cell phones are bad in a class setting. But on the other hand, as others have stated in emergencies or shooting events it's imperative for a line of communication to remain open. The problem is most kids can't be disciplined enough to keep off their cellphones, especially if they're bored or just disconnected from the class/teacher. It's a tough balancing act, and I can only see it getting worse as time goes on and technology advances.
Bro when I read about this whole this morning I facepalmed. How are kids going to be able to find help if they need to call for it? I unnderstand the backpacks, but phones?? In this day and age of school violence? Nah.
My district had each of the high schools try a different moderation of cell phones to see which was most effective. Mine was the most strict, and at the start of the school year, the first 2 months were a big crack down and it got was easier to enforce after that because all the students and parents were aware of the consequences. The district made it more lax, but applicable across the whole district (10 high schools) Students can have their phones on them, but away during class. Passing periods, and lunch do what you want. 1st seen, warning to put away. 2nd offense in the phone caddy. if students refuses to put phone away, it moves onto admin to turn in the phone. If this is a pattern of behavior across classes there's a phone plan put in place, which can result in turning the phone in every day and getting it back at the end, usually for 2-4 weeks. If the pattern is just in one class, it's more of a meeting with admin or counselor with student/and or the teacher to see what the disconnect is- not always done together. Biggest issue I have is students recording fights and sending them around the school.
I think the phone ban really put the addiction into perspective for me. These kids have known nothing but a phone since they were born. And it's not like they had so much a choice in the matter. These addictions weren't by choice, it was formed because they were given access to instantaneous dopamine when their brains were the most malleable. It feels more like we've just forced an entire generation to smoke cigarettes. Forcing them to put down the cigarettes during school might give them angst at first, but it's a serious push towards a better future for them. I should also add that the excuse parents use of "I want to be able to call my kid in an emergency" is total bullshit. Call the school. That's how we've always done it, even before we had cellphones. If a school shooting happens, having a thousand kids call their parents all at once is going to cause a massive influx of traffic and could even hinder communications with law enforcement to handle the situation. Edit: Holy shit the expert actually compared it to a cigarette. I wrote this entire comment before I saw that lmao
This CP thing has actually been documented for months now on the RUclips sub reddit. Apparently one user clicked and went into a link and confirmed (don't do this) and has reported it to the FBI. But youtube has done nothing. Moist also was one of the video comment sections recently that showed this so I firmly believe him when he says it's beyond what a creator can keep up with.
I think when it comes to child porn, if you know thats happening in your comments and you rely on RUclips’s automated tools. You’re not doing enough. It’s child porn. In your comments. Hire someone. Report it. It’s crazy to me that they think automated tools is enough. That’s lazy entitlement
And not all of the U-Whatever comments ARE bots. A ton are manual copy/paste spammers and active harassment. I only know because I saw some talking about errors made and a few got into some spats. Most are bots but a shocking amount are not. It's why a lot evade because they have documented comment histories and stuff like that. It's so gross. Obviously regardless report, block, and move on. It's all bad.
The Mr beast thing is interesting because to me it highlights how little people understand about the political process in this country. The idea that people with diametrically opposed views are going to work for the same president and advise them is obviously laughable. Plus, we've already hit our quota for celebrity presidents for this century.
Yeah sleepy Joe is President. Are you OK. Ronald Regan was a actor and president. Trump also was a president. Mr. Beast is correct to not want to follow his political party. Democrats want a old man as their president. Because this old man is the one that can beat Donald? So Democrats can't give us a better candidate? We have to be happy with a old what did Joe say Biden?
Yeah, to me Jimmy's statement came off a bit as enlightened centrist in a way. Like those on the left and right wont be able to realistically work closely together unless they're both from either side of the centre and not far from it. Especially on social issues such as Trans rights, Abortion access, Education etc. Like I can't imagine any republican that 's currently in the house or Senate that wouldn't turn on Jimmy because of his great vocal support for Ava.
Jimmy, though his intention is good, also is woefully ignorant of politics on an international stage and the importance of being perceived as a strong, reliable leader, especially the leader of the free world. You think ally nations will take him seriously, let alone the leaders of more hostile nations like Putin and Xi Jinping? Definitely not.
Though I will point out Ted Lieu's "correction" of the headline didn't really deny he said what was reported. He used his press conference just to reiterate how f*cked up Trump is and to not vote for him. Which fair, I think that should be said every single second of every single day on the news how he is legitimately a threat against democracy and of world peace itself (if he becomes President, Ukraine will disappear as a nation as Trump loves Putin, and he will likely do nothing as Putin looks to recreate the USSR, decimating most of eastern Europe in the process), but I did find it a little funny how his attempt at countering a report of something he said was false, was instead just a deflection to get the media to cover other stuff.
Except the reason the media hasn't brought it up is that Trump had his wife and kids on each of those flights and has been verified that he never went to the island.
There is a story about a veteran that has been driving for 63 years being unable to renew his license in Tennessee because he has a Canadian birth certificate. Both his parents were U.S. citizens. His citizenship was verified for his military service. This is the kind of person that would be disenfranchised by the voter bill.
So, we uproot the whole system over a few flaws? Sounds like something that would have come up over the past 63 years. Me thinks more may be afoot here.
Yeah this sounds like BS to me. Don’t get me wrong I disagree with the bill but the facts are: To issue a drivers license or any other identification TN accepts foreign birth certificates if they are English and non English ones if they have a Certificate of Accurate Translation with them. TN also accepts Military ID as primary identification when applying for a state ID. This can also include a military ID card or discharge papers.
@@dillonh321 Looking at it the problem was not that he could not get it Its that it was REMOVED from him because it "shouldn't have been given out " What I find interesting is that citisenship is on the federal level Here the state is saying that he isn't a citizen beside it being outside of their juridiction
You know what can erode mental health as a kid? Being verbally and physically bullied and beaten down in school and the schools not doing jack shit about it.
Oh, they do something about it alright. They turn a blind eye when the bully harrasses others and intervene when the victim fights back. Teachers and school "officials" enable this abuse.
I started high school about 10 years ago and I spent most of it with a dummy phone. Either way I very much appreciated being able to contact my parents for help, especially when I was having a mental health crisis. The one time I was having a mental health crisis, I didn’t have to go and talk to some stranger about the fact that I was having a crisis instead of only having to talk to someone I trusted as a substitute teacher, I have seen that phones can get absolutely out of control. I have also seen teachers pounce at the throat of students with their blood sugar pumps. It’s a very hard question and one I feel like there are better options than taking away phones or putting them in those pouches.
When I remember my high school. People who weren't interested in learning were messing around bothering others. My friend sometimes read book under the desk and I often was drawing whenever teacher would go on tangent about something related but not worth noting into be notebook. Sure students maybe more talked to each other but there already were introverted outcasts preferring reading or drawing. And there were bored bullies entertaining themselves by bullying others. Sure with phones it can be massive distraction but only banning phones won't solve it.
I think the cellphones spark a larger discussion on the way that teachers have lost all authority. I had a cellphone in 2000 as did maybe 20% of my class but the teachers had a strict "If it goes off or I see it at any time, you can pick it up after school" rule. I hear from my friends that're currently teachers and they aren't allowed to do anything; even the threat of detention or suspension is powerless these days. I really hope these pouches work but like everything in public school, what's the cost of those, who pays for it, and what's the impact it'll have on lower-income schools?
You read my mind. It is crazy how neutered a teacher's authority is now days. I remember there being other classroom disruptive items that existed, not just cellphones. None of them were a real problem because the teacher would just take them away.
As others have mentioned, I blame the parents for supporting this behavior. A lot of adults I know use social media more than kids. They won’t condemn their child’s behavior because then they would have to condemn their own.
@@ScagAteHersame, I got a lot of detentions as a kid. Pretty much all of them were for goofing off. Never fighting, never swore or stuff like that. I would never swear or cross a certain line because I literally didn’t want to know what type of trouble I’d be in from my mom and dad. I was in trouble enough already for petty stuff like being late, talking without raising my hand, no book cover (yes detention and denied DC field trip for no book cover). Usually punished with farm work. If a teacher called my parents and said not only will he not get off his phone but he’s refusing to give it me…I wouldn’t even go home. I’d just have to start life a new with one eye always open.
@@CMTZ11 lmao I heard that. I was more afraid of my parents than anyone and their #1 rule was to not disrespect adults. I don’t think that’s the case these days. Also thanks for triggering me about the book covers lol. I’d forgotten all about those dark days.
@@ScagAteHer goddamn don’t get me started on the book cover paradox. Go walk around with a shotty looking book cover so that the actual cover of the book doesn’t get damaged and look bad despite no one ever getting to see the front of the textbook because it had to be covered in a crappy looking book cover.
I'm a teacher at a private junior high and high school in Japan. In the morning, all phones are collected and put in a locked cabinet for the day. After the last class, they're returned to the students.
Some Teachers already cant stand getting corrected by the the textbook assigned. Had a teacher dispise me for using the introduction to challenge her shakespeare trivia and for knowing the local college professor that disagreed with her take.😅
the phone thing feels kinda redundent as it feels like there just rehashing the same thing every year. like what if a kid needed a phone for emergency. there gonna turn off all service in the school area black area it and then locking it up in a locker which already been proven from 1960s barly could protect stuff if someone breaks into it
Even if there are expressed medical exemptions from the no phones in school policy I still worry. I've heard stories of students with hearing aids being told they cant wear them in class due to teachers not understanding they aren't headphones. It's already very hard as a young person to get medical concerns taken seriously, all it takes is one substitute teacher to not allow a student to have necessary technology for disaster to strike.
@@matthewcaldwell8100 well for my condition I use a Apple Watch and my phone to monitor my heart rate to prevent me fainting. And my cousin uses a phone to monitor glucose levels for diabetes. It’s a real concern for more people than you might think!
@@matthewcaldwell8100any student who realizes they are having a medical emergency, such as an allergic reaction to a food another student is eating, they’ll need to call emergency services. Teachers often times don’t care enough or realize how dangerous that is to a student and say sit back down. The teachers in the states don’t get paid enough to care about students. If I hadn’t pulled my phone out against my teachers wishes, I wouldn’t be here today. Your argument missed something. Thanks, have a lovely day.
@@RedGoggles5285 Your individual experience is not the basis for a policy. Get an epipen and stop behaving like schools didn’t exist and function before everyone had a cell phone.
Yeah... that hearing aid thing has been happening since the early 00s and it even happens to adults in workplace situations. It's truly abhorrent, esp. when a lot of hearing aids look pretty different up close. I know the fancy models now have the ability to act also like bluetooth earbuds, but a hearing device is a hearing device. Kids shouldn't run the risk of having such things confiscated. *_That said, I think that issue is more one of TRAINING than one of regulations. The faculties of all schools should be properly and THOROUGHLY educated on the tools of the differentially abled, so that they are aware of how to handle discerning (or asking professionally/politely) what is or is not an assistive device that is allowed in class._* They also need to be trained more thoroughly on how to keep track of students with exemptions and how to appropriately handle the situation if a student with an assistive device that can, say, play music on it, is doing that instead of just using the device's assistive features for their class work. These are sensitivity and diversity training issues that MANY teachers/faculty (esp. the ones who are older) do not get unless there's been some "big thing" that happened that requires the board implement an instance of that training. It many cases, the teachers haven't even discussed much of that since they were in teacher's college/university, prior to getting their jobs... So if you have a teacher who's been teaching 20+ years at present, you have someone who likely has a lot of out-of-date training from the early 2000s. Not exactly helpful to them or the students. Yes, a lot of teachers will go out of their way to keep up to date on changes in their subjects and in these additional areas as well... but can you really count on it? With how burned out most of the ones who are older than a year or two at the job actually are, I would hazard that MANY just do not have the resources or anything to add this stuff to their workloads voluntarily. But it does need to happen. They need to be all getting regular training/refresher courses on these sorts of things precisely so they do not make these mistakes. I've heard FAR too many stories from students I've tutored, either about their own accessibility needs and devices, or about friends and peers who had incidents they witnessed. At least it's (from what I've seen with my students) teaching them awareness and compassion for those with disabilities... 😬
Whenever someone big dies or has something bad happen to them an avalanche of bots say horrible shit in any related comment section. It has been going on for many years now, like when Technoblade died you saw bots spamming any minecraft video with those types of comments for months afterwards. It's even more disgusting that these bots are promoting cp now.
I don't want spam in my comments, and I certainly don't want links to CP in my comments. People misunderstand what it would be like to moderate our comment sections. It's not just one video. If you have 1000 videos uploaded, with millions of views, they're ALL getting comments. Nobody can moderate that. Individual RUclipsrs cannot stop it. It has to be done at a higher level.
Here's a potential solution for the school cell phone issue. Someone could make an app that geo-locks the phone when on school grounds into a mode that's similar to airplane mode but still allows for calls and texts from a parent approval list of contacts. You can make the app password protected by the parents so kids can't just turn it off.
I like that idea, but in my classes many parents are so removed from cell phone etiquette that they will call/text/chat with their kids during the day just to say what’s up. Parents should know to call the office and pass a note to the teacher in the event of a schedule change/emergency. Anything else can just wait like it had to twenty years ago. I would have a total geolock.
As a film technician of a decade and theatre technician of 15 previous years, Alec was a producer of “Rust”. He absolutely curated a dangerous work environment by hiring inexperienced individuals in key safety roles. The armourer was one, the 1st AD was the second; nearly the entire camera department quit that day due to unsafe working conditions. Too many below the line technicians are placed in harms way by production under a toxic veil of “we’re all family”, family doesn’t put you on train tracks, make you self drive over an hour home after a 14-15 hour camera day after months of the same, a family doesn’t point a gun at you.
So phones weren't already banned in schools? The whole time I was in school, cell phones were far less common but students still had them. And anytime they were used (and assuming they were seen being used), teachers or school security would flat out confiscate them and you'd usually have to go to the office either after class or at the end of the school day to get it back. Sometimes you'd even get detention or something for it too. Sure the phones we had then weren't as versatile as they are now, but these things were never allowed to be used during school hours. This often applied to other handheld electronics like the Gameboy, DS, PSP, iPod's, disc/MP3 players, etc. as well, and typically any other toys that could become major distractions or were used inappropriately (marbles, pogs, and trading cards just to name a few).
In Australia our voting is mandatory, but the process is very simple - people complain about having to vote, but some will enter invalid votes instead - I would much rather it be easier for everyone than like the US system, one of my friends in the US who cares a lot about their vote says sometimes they have to spend over 2 hours just enrolling to vote on local issues 🤯 the level of polarisation in the US is crazy as well - no politician, party (or president) deserves your unwavering support. It really feels like Americans have been gaslit into treating it almost as a sport, is there actually a lot more independent thinking than there seems to be? It seems that Government is achieving less and less, while both sides seem to try to leverage a ‘threat to democracy’ into pulling in more and more donations / support… maybe if things were running better it would be more behind the scenes and people wouldn’t pay attention or be invested?
It's not hard to vote in the US at all. I don't mean to be a dick, but your friend is maybe exaggerating a bit, it doesn't take 2 hours to vote or enroll in voting, not even a little bit. When you move to a new state or you get your driver's license for the first time, you can enroll in voting, it's a 1-and-done deal and you never have to deal with it again. If you skip voting enrollment, then maybe you have to go back to the DMV or register online later, but that's all. And that applies at all levels, state, federal, and local, it's 1 registration per state. Unfortunately part of the polarization that you speak of includes 1 side (young people, specifically, it seems) claiming it's an impossibly long/difficult task to vote, but it really isn't. :-\. They claim the same for taxes even though they're pretty much copy/paste for like 85% of Americans. You also gotta keep in mind that every state has their own rules regarding elections (including Federal ones), so it's probably wrong to summarize it as "easy" or "hard." And yeah, you hit the nail on the head about government action. They're power drunk, so their best play is to achieve nothing and keep their constituents in constant fear so they'll be re-elected. There's no term limits for congress, so the same people are there for like 50 fuckin years and they keep getting re-elected based on name recognition. I also don't think things are as polarized as many people believe they are. Most people want the same or similar shit, but the media (including shows like this) only focus on the stuff we don't agree on. Abortion for example isn't a common topic at all among normal people, but among the politically active it's a non-stop discussion. For the stuff people agree on the government does nothing. Everybody believes that medical costs are too high, but the discussion is "medicare for all" or nothing. They refuse to focus on the part everybody agrees on, that costs are too high, because that would bring people together. And even on topics like abortion, ~75% of the country believes one thing, but the GOP establishment doesn't agree with the portion of their base who does, and them + the media all pretend it's 50-50. I'm sure you didn't know this b/c you'll never hear it on a show like this, but Trump has said countless times to GOP hard-liners that he refuses to ban abortion, and that it's something the voters need to handle in their own states, so BOTH of our main candidates are *mostly* in agreement (not entirely) on the topic at the federal level, but the media would have you believe they have opposite stances. And it's similar across the board IMO. Many complaints leftists progressives have were the same as the motivation for the original formation of MAGA on the conservative side (eg. housing affordability, medical affordability, the government is just a bunch of old men who get nothing done, term limits for congressmen, etc.), but nobody ever focuses on the agreements. I think there's a lot more agreement than people believe. So while it's polarized, I think it's also not. Sorry for the long post..
as someone that votes in America it is literally as simple as going to the polling station in your car which by being able to legally drive that car ....you can vote
It's a scam. They tell you there is more than 2 options, but there is never a chance in anyone winning but one of the big two. There are policies in place to keep it from being one vote for one person and actually having a popular vote. We tell felons they can't vote but let the president be a felon. Americans are too lazy to stand up and say enough is enough so we'll have to implode before anything changes.
Forcing uneducated people to vote is also an incredible detriment. It wouldn't accurately reflect citizens views and opinions as a whole. We have the right to vote, but also the right not to.
I work at a middle school in california as a custodian. I see plenty of student's on their phones during lunch, but an overwhelming majority are just playing and talking. We also, needless to say, don't allow phones in class, and if a student is caught, it gets held onto by the teacher or sent to the admin office for a repeat offender. That being said, the students need their phones. We send out notifications to the students about events and changes to events on campus. We even have posters with QR codes to scan so students can report bullying anonymously. The phones can provide safety for students, but there is a line here. We can not just go with an aboslute "no phone access" or "unlimited phone access." Have to find a middle ground.
Ok… good to know that school hasn’t changed that much since I graduated. We were allowed to use our phones on breaks or for legitimate reasons… just not in the middle of class and be distracted. Same for laptops ( it was a bit before tablets were common but the current rules apply to them as well). If you are using them for notes or translator/calculator it was fine but you had to have it out on the table so the teacher could walk by and check what you were doing. Any texts or calls and you got in trouble ( with in reason of course, some times if it was a parent or something it was okay, just not like random texting /calling friends).
Music helped so much in school for me, listening while taking tests, class work etc. let me focus so much more. I remember people getting their phones taken for being on them, but let them listen to music and stuff during breaks or while working if it helps
We didn't have cell phones when I was in school and we had less issues than schools today. Never heard of anyone bringing and using a weapon when I was in school (knife, gun, etc). That started with the first internet generation. Even back in my grandparents' day, teens normally brought hunting rifles to school to have for hunting wild game after school. They stood them up by the door when they came in and picked them up at the end of school. Never had any issues. It's kids today that are so desensitized to bad behavior through media that their worst choices are so tame compared to what they see. Some ages do need to be banned from the internet entirely, like cigarettes and alcohol. In a lot of ways, the internet is more detrimental than cigarettes or alcohol. Children can't be trusted to use the internet responsibly any more than a 19 year old being trusted with alcohol. Some can, most can't.
When I went to (boarding) high school in the early-mid 2010s, we all had to put our phones in cubbies for study hall (about two hours), and first years had to leave them overnight. The cubby system was effective, parents were able to reach the on-duty staff person in case of emergency, and students could request their phones if there was an emergency. The mini-ban immensely helped me focus more during study hours, and this was back when the most addicting phone app was Candy Crush, not any social media. With the way phones are today, I'm all for schools limiting access. Heck, teachers could simply request that their students check out their phones for class if they're THAT dedicated to Kahoot. HOWEVER, the magnetic lock bags sound stupid and unnecessary. There are magnets all over school to unlock them. Just have cubbies monitored by front office staff or something.
I haven't had any bots peddling CP but I have seen some saying they have videos of animals being killed...just sick, RUclips needs to do so much better.
I'm surprised Phil didn't mention the bots straight up using racial, homophobic, and other slurs on every comment too, sometimes on the same comment as the cp bots. It's made it so that I barely want to go to the comments of some channels I follow, since I like to talk to people and see what others are saying, but I don't want to see that vile crap.
I've seen both. I report, block, as useless as that is. Though I didn't realize the legalize the worst abuse bots were linking off-site illegal, until I saw Muta's video. I was naïve. I thought it was trolls going for extremes. Between the ape video ring busted and Muta, I realize the trolls were illegal unhinged seeking same. To think those types are given free reign on this platform. Humans are already the minority on the internet . I'm deeply troubled both by overbearing censorship of dissenting opinions that stifles meaningful discourse, actual people and bots running wild promoting and profiting from egregious acts against vulnerable people and animals. Google's ineptitude is starting to look like malicious support of the worst.
@@washuai I wondered if they actually had links, but I didn't want to try finding out. If there's a chance I could find actual CP or fall into some kind of open air FBI honey pot meant to catch idiots, I didn't want any part of it. I just report them for child abuse content.
As a Canadian, it stuns me that schools in America are going out of their way, and spending tonnes of money, to force bans of cell phones using tech and not figuring out ways to use tech to keep guns out of schools
Metal detectors my friend, our southern neighbour already have that part solved. But some people call it prison like and they cost thousands, but still common in schools with lots of fights.
@@kingofhearts3185metal detectors don't stop it from entering the school they only tell you if one if one being brought in. Most mass shootings start of entrance of school so it changes nothing
Stuns me even more that we are not even talking about School shootings as a problem and more of a way of life now. Dead children... too soon to talk about... BUT OMG THERE WATCH RUclips IN SCHOOL... WE NEED TO FIX THIS!?
Every platform has a bot problem. When my husband and I post something to our Twitter or our fb / insta we get at least 1-2 bot comments. Now on xbox about once a week I get a random message from a bot scammer. And it feels like these platforms aren't doing anything about it
what can they do? they can only do so much without then punishing the Legit people. bot makers will always find ways around any roadblocks. those little puzzles sites have us solve to log in? bot makers find ways around them. Verify the account? well bot account makers can get around those too. attach costs to things? even that doesn't stop em.
Omg thank you, Got back from abroad and hopped on my Xbox for the first time in 2 years and the amount of scamming bots was wild. Wiped them out and already have 3 more today😭
It feels like they aren't doing anything about it because you have confirmation bias. You get one message on x-box a week from a bot scammer, because the other 90% of the accounts were banned before they could reach you. Stopping it outright is a monumental - if not impossible - task. Obviously, there are platforms that fail utterly, like Elon's twitter, but that's a management failure on his part.
Admittedly I’m also not fully sold on the phone ban. I also would want to see more research put into what these kinds of bans do before implemented on a large scale. One of my concerns is accessibility. I’m a blind person who has used an iPad my whole life. I couldn’t read or write anything in school without it. My school never had a phone ban, and yet I regularly had teachers and substitutes try and take my accessibility aids on the grounds that I “could be texting”. I may sound like an exception but I’m really not, lots of kids use phones for listening to music to help with focus or to help keep them from getting overstimulated. I also don’t entirely buy the whole “kid sitting alone at lunch because they are scrolling through there phone” line. Kids have always sat alone at lunch, social isolation and bullying have always run rampant in schools. When you’re being bullied and isolated your phone is a source of comfort, not the cause. It’s a tool for communication as well those loud lunchrooms are the same conversations that would be happening online just out loud. This doesn’t inherently make the interactions better in my opinion. Phones are just a tool, what if we do a better job at addressing the root cause of bullying and isolation instead of taking away one of the tools abs calling it a job well done?
I am a teacher (and a quite young one, too--I had a smartphone throughout my entire 6-12 education): we need to get cellphones out of the classroom, oh my gosh. Im not saying students cant bring them to school, but a large portion of my students are incapable of going an entire class period without being on them. I feel like so much of my job is policing behavior and phone usage rather than teaching a subject i am passionate about and making connections with my kids (i teach band, for reference). I wanted to be the teacher who let my kids just make their own decisions and all that, but they have shown me that theyre not capable of that level of freedom yet. I graduated from high school in 2019, and it really feels like the students i am now teaching are so different than the people i went to school with in terms of their self control regarding phone usage. It makes me worried for their futures if this continues. I love these kids and they are so smart and i want to see them flourish
I don't think Baldwin did anything wrong as an actor, pointing a gun at another person is usually a big deal, but if that's what the scene called for, and if that's what he was told to do, how is he, as an actor, supposed to know any better? (And it is safe to do that normally, but the person in charge of that failed to do her job). As a producer, however, Baldwin was in charge of the whole movie, if there were problems with safety, it would have been his job to address them before they got out of hand. People get hung up on little details, like how he claims he didn't pull the trigger (it was probably a revolver, so you'd only need to slip your thumb off the hammer to set it off), but even if he did, if the scene called for him to, he couldn't do his job as an actor without pulling it.
The fact that a real gun was used rather than a prop gun means that it requires additional safety precautions. 1 of which is treating every gun as if it was loaded and ensuring that the gun isn't loaded, regardless of whether or not someone else told you that it's not loaded. That is taught by practically every safety range officer. Baldwin may have had an unprofessional and irresponsible armorer, but he became responsible the moment he grabbed the gun.
@@idkalan00 there is no such thing as a prop gun that shoots blanks, there's only reap guns that shoot blanks. That's a pretty common misconception. Alec Baldwin did nothing wrong as an actor. Where he failed was as a producer. It was Alec Baldwins responsibility to keep everyone safe, and he knew that the armorer hired was brand new. Hell, even the staff were shooting cans on set. That's where his fault lies, not because he was an actor acting with a gun (which is okay), but as a producer who ignored basic safety guidelines (like not having live rounds on set...).
@@idkalan00 It gets better. He didn't have an "unprofessional" armorer. He had a non-union armorer, because the producers wanted to cut costs. Alec Baldwin was the lead producer. And workers on the set had already begun to walk off before the incident because the place was EXTREMELY unsafe. Because of him. (but of course the judge declared that's "not relevant" for the trial. Almost as if the judge is bending over backwards to help Baldwin out)
More often than not, phones are a scapegoat. Kids who don’t want to pay attention simply won’t do so-with or without a phone. The vaping coordinating and distracting others using phones are real problems, but a lot of phone use is honestly fine by me.
Idk man we had phones in school with games and RUclips and social media back in 2010 and it wasn't an issue. Every teacher had their own phone policy and typically the rule was if you're caught with it out while they are teaching they confiscate it until the end of class Some teachers were more lax than others about using phones at the beginning or end of class, and some didn't care what you did as long as you got your assignments done and were doing well in the class I'm only 31 but man the ways that schools have changed over the past 15 years makes me feel super old
Well, man, have you seen kids these days? In our day (34) did you ever think to loosen someone lug nuts on their car? Threaten ppl in public for views? Shame a kid in school for views? No, yo would have gotten your ass kicked or worse for each one of those acts. Social media HAS made children more confident and less fearful, which is the worst thing for society. Now we have school shootings. We have large group robberies, more crime from adolescents. These idiots even think biden is a competent president. They only think that bcuz they still live with their parents, dont pay for shit and don’t have an income nor are looking for work. You were not allowed to use your phone when I was in school, it was taken right away by most teachers, minus the PE teachers and extra circular. And we didn’t have social media like they do now so even when we had phone back then, we weren’t on them constantly.
Previous yondr pouch student here. My public school tried to implement it and they were found to be so easy to break that they really didn’t stop students any more and it ended up being a waste of a couple million dollars for the school district. Teachers kind of gave up and stop requiring it
I kind of figured something like that would happen. I went to high school from 2009-2013 and had free reign off campus access and no cell phone regulations whatsoever, except for the classroom rules. That probably would’ve had dramatic consequences if yondr pouches had been implemented in my high school.
Ain't a faster thing just a lockbox, you don't get your phone back til the end of the day? Or an electronics ban, and any get taken until the end of class (my school did that).
@@chere100When I was in middle school, they had a rule for every student to put their phone in a basket until the end of the day. I always kept it hidden in my backpack. No teacher was going to take my phone without a fight. A cellphone is very important like if you need to call for emergency, and it may have important information on it like personal notes, addresses, ect. I wouldnt want to risk it getting mixed up or stolen. That would be a nightmare. I understand not wanting them to be on the phone during class, but just tell them to put it away if you see it out. If they do it again, you can bring further disciplinary action like detention. And if they have it out at lunch time, that's none of your business. If they don't want to socialize with other people and would rather be on their phone, then let them. You can't force them to talk to people.
Yeah figured... But the classroom ban is a positive idea so it should be resolved some how. The students 100000000% should not have the phones DURING class if for no other reason than that neurodivergent people (like those with ADHD) exist in those spaces and struggle hard a lot of the times if there's people on devices and such. Even if its on silent, just the motions of the body using the device can trigger distraction (I would know, that exact thing got me more times than I can count)... Rest of the school is meh on bans for devices, I feel like if its not in the classroom and the students are 14+ years old, there's no issues. If the kids are elementary aged... nah they shouldn't even HAVE the phones on them at all, should have them stored the entire day in their bags in the classroom or lockers or whatever. Elementary school age is some of the most important years for learning to handle social situations, developing social awareness, forming friendships, learning to communicate, etc. It's too crucial to childhood development to have interactions consistently and daily with other humans for me to say "sure, let the kids under 14 have their phones all the time outside of class too".
17:25 Know what would help boost voter conference? Politicians not showing up on television every minute claiming that the free and fair election was rigged for years and years and years. Politicians actually being honest about the outcome of elections would boost voter confidence . Politicians actually doing their job and protecting us instead of criminalizing the American people and putting new burdens on the American people would boost voter confidence . Do you know what doesn’t boost voter confidence? Politicians constantly claiming fraud when there hasn’t been any. Armed men or police officers all over the place makes people believe that there is a potential threat nearby. Perception is everything. And to keep the public informed on actual matters of concern versus those that are completely fabricated…. All of these things would boost voter confidence. But Republicans are not interested in boosting voter confidence or making it easier for Americans citizens to vote.
.😂 sorry I thought you were talking about democrats the entire time. Ironic hahahaha. It applies more to your side so that last line was a hilarious twist.
I had a Nextel in late middle school and an early smart phone by high school graduation. Even then phones were a distraction. People used the "adults can't hear it" ring tone. There were no games or social media. We were just texting each other. It's so much worse now.
The restriction of phones is always so wild to me because on one hand we have "teens rely too much on phones" and then I remember my phone is now my wallet, my bus pass, and there's an app for every service I need access to. Do we teach teens to keep up with technology they are about to need or do we wait until they're fresh adults and overwhelm them at a later date when they don't have a swath of adults to help them navigate it?
This 100%. Giving up your phone is a huge theft and private information security risk. My phone doubles as my wallet so I'd be giving up my license, medical card, emergency cash, my cards, etc.
The problem in this logic is the assumption the kid will not have access to their phone till they are adults, but the reality is they will have their phones up until the school day starts and as soon as the the school day ends. In America most schools only run for about 6-7 hours. The kids will have their phones the rest of the day, the weekends, seasonal breaks, and all summer, a few hours is not going to kill them and IF there is an emergency, like a school fire, then i'm sure students will be able to grab their phones and use them if needed. If their parents need to call them for any at home emergency reasons, they can just call the school and the school can make an announcement so the kid can have permission to grab their phone and make a call. Such emergencies are so rare though that they should not stand in the way of a school ban on phones. On a personal note i do not have payment info on my phone or my license, that's what a debit card and actual license are for. IF i absolutely MUST pay for something with my phone i will do so with a separate debit card i have for exactly that reason because hackers do exist and can get into your phone. That and having too many eggs in one basket is always a bad idea.
It might surprise you but there is a middle ground between letting them have a phone 24/7 and not letting them have a phone until they are adults. School is 8 hours of a day, specifically 8 hours that their phone will only be necessary maybe a maximum of three times (if they keep their school ID on the phone). We can restrict phone access during school hours without crippling their ability to keep up with technology, with the added benefit of conditioning them to be accustomed to time away from their phone, which most adults are lacking.
When I was younger my mom didn't think I needed to have a phone at school. Then in I think 5th grade I had as asthma attack that almost killed me. My asthma is the coughing kind and all day I was told to just get some water. At the time I wasn't allowed to carry my inhaler, so since the nurse didn't feel like I needed it, I never got it. Fast forward end of the day, and now I'm in the after-school program. My coughing is getting worse and thankfully one of the after-school teachers call my mom, but only because I'm coughing so much i can't talk. By the time my mom got there my toes and fingers were curling up, my lips were turing blue, and I just wanted to go to sleep. My mom was able to keep me awake as she frantically drove to either my pediatrician or hospital - it's a a bit of a blur - and thankfully got it under control. When my mom asked why I didn't get my inhaler the school said they didn't think I needed it and by the time I might have, the nurse was gone. She left like an hour after lunch. After that I got a cell phone and could carry my inhaler on me. I've had massive allergy issues, stomach issues, other bs but if it wasn't vomiting or throwing up they basically told me to suck it up. On the flip side I got my first smartphone in high school and that was much different than my little Nokia and then flip phone. Even before wireless earbuds I would still listen to music in class, though for me it was actually helpful, especially when we were let loose to work on our own. I had teachers that were really strict about it so you either respected it or got extra sneaky. There wasn't snap chat or tiktok though so that is a huge difference. My son goes to a small school where phones aren't allowed so if I need to get him information I just call the front office. At a public school I would prefer him to have a phone. I've thought ahead and have parental controls on it so it's won't be as distractiong, but thats me. I don't want him to not have his phone. I think there should just be a no phones in the class, so maybe in a basket or something in the beginning of class, but the pouch thing worries me. Maybe that's from my personal experience but it's messy. Also it would be putting money towards a ban, but nothing else in education? That's wacky
Tanya Ortiz was clearly one of the popular kids who missed out on the "fun" high school experience of being excluded, not fitting in and basically just trying to endure the fucking hellscape that is high school. Lunch is free time to do what they want to do. Id have loved to have a smart phone for lunch and breaks then, shit even just being allowed to have my gameboy on school property would have been nice. They absolutely do not belong or should be used in classes, but maybe just maybe 'not engaging with their peers' is whats keeping them sane. Hate tiktok, mobile games and twitter is a cesspool... but its still an escape when needed.
@@BigBadDodge4x4 We need Biden in and then we need to clean up the Democratic party. Once he gets elected, we need to get to work making sure the only people in the house and senate agree that we need to make changes and not put corporations first.
@@BigBadDodge4x4 and who is this "someone else"? Because I hear people begging for him to step out of the race but I've yet to hear someone actually propose a candidate to replace him
Hey I appreciate Mr B's having a very idealistic view of how to run the country. In a perfect world that's exactly how it would go. But the reality is, you'll never get to the top of your party, or into that office without bowing down to your party. And even if you didn't manage to magically make it there somehow, when you're advisors from the left hand right give you their differing opinions, how do you decide which one is right
Agreed, it really put into perspective how young Mr beast actually is, because that tweet came off very very naive and childish, but he pretty much is still a child.
Look I don't have kids but I work in tech and someone sitting alone on their phone doesn't mean they're socially isolated--which they KNOW because they conveniently ignore all the GOOD social interaction that occurs with/through/because of technology and focus on the negative--which also happens in person. Given how crucial phones and widely utilized phones have become, how necessary for such a WIDE array of uses, it's insane to me to think the solution is simply removing it from them entirely, not LEAST of which is, yeah, in a school shooting, kids should be able to have their fucking phones. My mom is a teacher, and when something scary happens, she often has to find out *from the kids* who communicate much faster and more efficiently than any official or school lines of communication. And half the time, her phone doesn't even work in the building--one time there *was* an incident and she had to text me at home for me to google to find out what was happening (it hadnt actually occurred in the school so the kids didn't know, only admins knew and they took their sweet time communicating what was going on).
I am a teacher in 'rural' wa (pop. 35k). Freshman Geometry. Phones have been a HUGE problem in our classrooms. Some of our students become so obstinate when confronted with their phone usage in class that they welcome a suspension if they push back hard enough. Often enough, the parents of said students push back when we ask them for support from home. Fun being stuck in the middle.
So completely remove any ability to communicate. Cool story. If there's a disaster and kids d*e without being able to say goodbye to their parents/call for help, at least their next of kin will know who to blame.
Would asking (telling) them to leave all phones at the front of the class when they walk in be an option? I notice a lot of sport coaches I work with do this at practice (vball and cheer especially). But obviously being at practice is something they “want” to do. Going to class isn’t optional.
Our high school adopted pretty strict phone rules and parents needed to sign off on it or the student couldn't stay in the school (except for students who need devices for medical monitoring). This past school year was the best teaching year. The kids were engaged and spent their distraction time doing silly stuff like trying to lasso each other or putting Doom on their calculator and trying to power it with potatoes. I loved every moment of it. Our scores even went up.
@@liamroarke7991 why the drama, they simply have to not use the phones inside the classroom. If they respect that no problem with "bans" and no dramas like you were writing about.
eventually i bet we will start seeing comments that are made by Chat bot programs flooding next to create more confusion on whats Legit and whats a Bot.
South Australia has a state wide ban on phone usage in school. In my school, if you're caught with your phone, your phone gets confiscated. Some schools have pouches, some schools have students leave their phone in their lockers. It's been working well. Other states in Australia are looking to do the same.
Yeah i was gonna say in QLD when I was a kid if you were caught with your phone it was Confiscated everyone knew it. It would go to the Office and when the bell rang at the end of the day you could go pick it up simple. Can't say anything about the pouches though as this was my experience 15 years ago lol
Sadly, America does have to worry about school shootings. Until the government does something about that, I'd want my kid to have a phone. We have multiple cases where that was the only way a student was able to record a goodbye for loved ones.
@@kyleellis1825school shootings are bad, we can agree on this, but let’s not use it as an excuse to avoid common sense regulations in schools. We can walk and chew gum at the same time
@@kyleellis1825 Fair enough. Can I ask what governmental action you would like to see that would make you feel safe enough? In terms of real solutions I just don’t see any on the horizon
With the phone ban, what happens to recording instances of abuse? A phone is one of if not the only way someone can gather first hand proof of abuse. If they arent allowed to use it how will they be able to record from one of these pouches?
@@JessicaKStark You can buy amazon cards almost anywhere, set up an account without issue. And that's assuming the parents don't have any knowledge or involvement in whatever is going on at school you need video evidence to stop. I ordered stuff from amazon when I was in HS plenty.
An outright ban on cellphones at school concerns me for several reason. 1) proof of bullying/abuse is often video footage _from cell phones,_ and we've had several clips over the years of teachers waaaaay overstepping their authority that would have never been believed without the footage, 2) in the age of school shootings, not having a phone to call 911 is fucking terrifying, 3) phones can often be used a helpful tool for disabilities/medical conditions, think blood sugar monitoring apps, timers for medications, the ability to quickly communicate for the deaf/hearing impaired (speech to text), etc. and 4) there built in calculators so that they don't have to shell out $100 (on average) for a device they'll likely never use again, there are many free graphing calculator apps for smartphones that greatly lower the fiscal barrier to entry for education (as many students will already have a smart device even if it's not the latest tech). There are also many educational apps that students use to submit their homework now so if there's a problem it seems counter intuitive that they aren't allow to bring their phone out to show what's happening on their side. I think a selective Parental Controls on the school routers for the desktops/public wifi and a required parental control lock (eg. App locks during school hours like AppBlock) on the attending student's devices would be the closest you could get without crippling genuinely beneficial device functions.
All of that existed before phones. The idea they're necessary is nuts. The classroom has graphing calculators to use, wtf... You can get an exception if your kid has diabetes, etc. Blocking apps won't work b/c parents will never agree to it. The comments section is too young, you all think life started when phones did. In a school shooting the last thing kids need to be doing is calling 911, a bunch of teachers will have already done so. 20 phone calls is enough, 2000 isn't necessary.
@@matthewcaldwell8100 -can be- being the keyword here. Most of these things are NOT being addressed. Sorry, when school shootings are as rampant as they are in the US, my kids gonna have a phone. Because the groups in charge of making things safer for children have completely and utterly failed in every regard.
When I was in school I had no friends, having the ability to use my phone to play snake or listen to an audiobook, just the limited activities you could do on a flip-phone in the 2000's was truly lifesaving. A lot of the kids are alone with their phones because of ostracization by peers that phone can save their life.
Same, I got bullied a TON in high school, so I didn't have anyone to sit with at lunch. I'd just show up, eat at the allergy table that nobody really sat at, and then go off to the library. And even when I was in there, i was reading a book whether physical or digital. Forced interaction can be worse than isolation, especially when the people you're being forced to interact with don't want you there.
While I do sympathies with you, you have to remember that you're in the minority. The point of the bans is to help the over whelming majority of students and as such shouldn't be based on fringe cases. Even then you can still go to the library and read if you need something to do.
the issue is that a smartphones with access to literal thousands of games and a dozen social media services is infinitely more distracting than say Tetris on a fliphone or music/videos on an iPod. there's a reason there was no crisis around phones/iPods in the mid-to-late 2000's
Its been almost a decade since my school went into lockdown because a teen boy grabbed his dads gun and went to campus to shoot the girl who had just dumped him. We went into lockdown with no information. Our teacher gave us permission to get online to check for any news, and to message families, as long as our phones were muted (cant have parents call and that ringing give away our presence). We were communicting in silence with neighbors just outside of the school and with each other, and that was how we found out who the shooter was and got updates as the police stopped him (a friend had ratted him out), as he engaged in a shootout with the police, and as he fell when a cop shot him. Phone use is a problem, but I would hate for teens and children to be unable to communicate in an emergency. When a shooter is active on campus, students can tell people on the outside exactly where the shooter is, who it is, even what kind of weapon they have. This communication can save lives, on the off chance that any outside adults or any school staff take action.
Yeah, the idea that kids are CALLING anyone during a shooting is ridiculous. We had a hostage incident at my school that for various reasons, left a group of 15-20 of us locked in a room without a teacher but with an armed student. Another student who was in a bit of a blind spot was able to text a teacher to tell them what was happening, and the incident was resolved with only a few minor injuries. I don’t even want to think about how that day would have gone if he hadn’t had his phone.
I saw a Washington post story about this, apparently advocacy groups have done studies and consulted with experts… and the situation is much better handled on average when not every student has a phone. The conclusion was that you’re pretty much always better off without the distraction, instead focusing on your surroundings, and any advantage that could be gained is got through the teachers having access to their phones if they need them, or like Phil said, the option to cut open the bags.
I don’t know what to tell you kid too many of you were being very irresponsible with your phones instead of using it for actual smart things like schoolwork you’re using it to send naked pictures to each other to buy drugs off of Snapchat to look at g@re videos when you should be paying attention in school the fact of the matter is you don’t deserve it none of you little brat$ do
Besides who’s to say one of you little brain rotted kids doesn’t have their phone on silent ? and it does get you discovered, you don’t know anything and you’ll just say anything to keep your little phone in your hands
I don't agree with people saying that banning phones in school are going to damage student's relationship with technology. They already have a damaged relationship with technology. When I was in highschool the ball was just getting rolling on smart phones and for the most part it was generally understood that if you used it, you lose it. I carried the lesson that it's inappropriate to use a phone when you are attending lecture or being addressed. I know that's anecdotal, but I was shocked to find out how common phone use is in school. I think the bags can be used as a training tool for students. If they have a good responsible relationship with their phone, they can have it on them. If it's a repeat problem, the bag is a great solution. Then you can have the best of both worlds for these kids.
I think its a bit absurd to go after Baldwin for this. It was clearly the armorer's job to evaluate the safety of the firearm, and deferring to the "expert" is supposed to be a cardinal rule for novices. That's where you're supposed to get the cardinal rules from on an individual basis, listen to the experts and do what they say. An actor works with a wide variety of firearm-like objects, from non-firing replicas, to firearms modified to only operate with blanks, real firearms that have been disabled, and yes, real firearms. Its not the actor's job to keep track of all those outwardly identical variations, that's why there's an armorer at all!
The phone thing is difficult. In a world where school shootings are all too common, I want kids to have access to their phones when they need them. If I had the know-how to make it, I'd make pouches that can tell if phones are in them that the kids syncs up to a display board in the class, so the teacher sees a blinking light on the board if a phone gets removed. It makes it difficult for students to use phones in class, but in emergencies they can access their phone if they need to without worry of potentially alerting a shooter.
Right the phone thing is wild. Context I’m 22, grew up in the UK. And we weren’t allowed our phones at school. We could use them during break and lunch but during class, if we were caught with them (obviously outside of the teacher giving us permission or having a damn good reason to) our phone could be confiscated for the rest of the day or just the rest of the class after multiple warnings. What is crazy to me is Americans saying lock them away. Wild. Like Phil said there are some emergency situations that only really happen in the US, imagine you can’t call the police because it’s locked in a bag you need to have a special thing to unlock. Teachers and parents need to work on teaching children BALANCE, and I cannot emphasise that word enough.
Yeah its a real shame... the big issues is truly that balance is not being taught, nor apparently respect for what the teachers request of them. It should really not be this big of a deal, but the PARENTS will savage the school faculty for confiscating phones in a lot of places, so teachers are not only tired but brow-beaten into submission. Either they ignore the students increasingly paying lesser and lesser attention as they play with their phones, or they attempt to confiscate and end up with dramas and complaints and problems. What should be happening is parents should be outright punishing their kids for not respect their teachers, and should be backing up faculty/school rules and consequences. There should be a unanimous sentiment from both sides to ensure phone use at school is not happening in classes, at the VERY least, and that the phones don't even come out and are put on silent/airplane mode until breaks or after school. When I was in school not THAT long ago (36) it was literally a case of "if I see it out, it's going in my desk to be locked up until end of day. IF you can even find me to get it back before I leave for the day". Now its "oh geeze guys IDK if we can deal with this cellphone problem... we might have to just suck it up!" lolol The parents, especially of the elementary aged kids, need to REALLY get in there and make it a hard stop for the kids. "If I hear your phone has been a problem at school, I will lock out all apps except the emergency ones" (or lock the phone during school hours, or put them on a limited talk/text plan so they can't actually use the phone to do anything that isn't emergency or family related with it, etc.)
As a teacher I will say flat out that Yondr Pouches or anything like them are worthless. It literally just takes a strong enough strike on a desk or wall and the magnetic lock will open. Other options are cutting the pouches open or bringing a dummy phone or putting just the phone case in the pouch. These kids will find ways to get around these types of things. Best thing would honestly be for students to leave them at home but that's not going to happen either, especially not when parents are actively participating in the students being on their phones in school. I have had parents straight up call their child on their cell phone while they're in my class and its never for something important, its things like "what do you want for dinner?" and other things that could wait until the student was actually done with school. I don't know what a real solution to this problem is, but, from being on the ground and in the trenches of this, those silly phone "pockets/pouches/jail/cage" whatever you want to call them are worthless. The one thing that our school found that made students actually stay off their phones was that when we confiscated a phone we turned it in to the vice principal and then that phone wasn't returned to anyone but the parent who had to come to the school to pick it up in person. Obviously this led to plenty of angry parents but thankfully our principal and vice-principal have steel spines backing us up and never backing down to those overly aggressive types.
If you expect absolute 0 phones with the yonder bags then yeah, they're useless, but I'd have to imagine it drastically cuts down on incidents. SOME kids will break them open between classes and what-not, but I imagine there's a lot of kids who wouldn't.
@@MrSlowestD16 Ye, I imagine MOST kids would not break them open and the few that actually do probably needs more looking into because there seem to be other behavioral problems going on there.
@@henta7608you don't know kids if you assume most won't follow suit when one kid figures out a way around something Like even if they don't want to really use their phones they'll find a way around those bags just to spite an authority figure
Libraries are moderated. The internet phone usage is not the issue here. The content on the internet being allowed is the issue. What do we allow in a Library where minors can access those materials? Librarians have moderated data successfully for eons. Go look at their systems for content approval and distribution without censorship.
In the age of school shootings, you are crazy if you think my kid can't have their phone. I've also informed my child that using their phone during class is strickly forbidden and could result in no electronics at home for several days. This seems more of a parenting issue than a school issue.
On the topic of cell phone bans in schools... I've had this conversation with my cousin who just graduated high school. She said that her fear is that with the issue of school shootings if her phone was out of reach or locked up in some bag thing she wouldn't be able to tell her parents that she was okay or that she loved them. She is terrified of being in a school shooting. Though she does understand that having phones in classrooms are a huge distraction. She said that there should be a middle ground somewhere so that kids/teens can still have their phones but they aren't using them as a distraction during lessons. She also wanted me to say that parenting is a huge factor in this. Which I agree on especially after talking with my friends with kids. Those that have strict screen time and phone use rules seemed to have less emails from teachers about their kids being on their phones when they shouldn't be. I don't know it is a complicated situation.
"When I visit campuses during lunchtime, my heart breaks to see students sitting alone, isolated on their phones instead of engaging and learning with their peers" wtf. I was somewhat bullied in school and never had anyone to sit with for lunches in general. all of my friends were at other campuses, and because I was super into wanting to get in the sciences and stuff, I was a geek and isolated by my peers. Removing cell phones isn't going to change that shit. It's just going to take away a form of escape for some kids. I often ended up skipping my lunch entirely during high school and spent it in the library where I could just read instead of worrying about what some of the other kids wanted from me. This makes me so angry, because this feels like a means to kick the ball down the hall instead of doing something to make kids want to engage properly.
Also… I noticed recently that the ones who complain the loudest about this are also always on their phones instead of talking to friends. I mean just let people do what the heck they want , as long as it isn’t hurting anyone what is the big issue here? I get saying no you can’t be on your phone in class, but why can’t people be on their phones in their free time?
Yeah this part. As someone who grew up with adhd especially, if a kid doesn't find the work engaging they won't do it. Phone or no phone. They'll just sleep, daydream, do shit on whatever school issued ipad or chromebook they're given, draw, read, ect. I did the same thing you did. I'd skip lunch and sit in the library and catch up on shows until the bell rings. Because of gun violence ramping up in this country i do not feel comfortable with kids not having access to their phones for whatever reasons. "Kids shouldn't be calling their parents during lockdown" texting exists. If I was in danger of getting shot I would at least like to tell my mom i love her. "They can contact the school' yes because the school is the arbiter of quality when it comes to that shit. Absolutely not.
Mr. Beast being wanting to be a centrist president is really funny to me, because his goals are functionally impossible. There's no real middle ground, every policy will favour one side more then the other. You said it best yourself with abortion access but there's so many other rights and beliefs that would need to be weighed in on that would inevitably push people to oppose Jimmy's presidency. The quote "you can't have your cake and eat it too" applies here. Both political sides oppose eachother so drastically that there's no true chance of unity for every american citizen.
Sadly, I feel the same way. I would love for there to be middle ground policies, but that's just not the current state of the political parties and policies that are at stake currently in the country. Whenever I hear one of my friends say something like, "I'm a centrist" or "I'd just want a compromise", it signals to me that they are naïve on the actual functioning of politics in this country. Not to mention that many politicians don't argue in good faith. They just say what their base wants to hear, even if it doesn't align with their actual opinions. Trying to find compromise with these people is just setting yourself up for being taken advantage of by political grifters from both sides. Could that change over time? Sure, but not just by electing a single president. It would take many years and a drastic culture change from many people.
There are compromises to be had, but the problem with those it they lose you all votes. A good compromise either leaves everyone happy, or everyone upset. For example: we had a compromise on abortion before. It was highly restricted, but allowed. The no abortion people were not happy, and the no limits on abortion people were not happy.
I dont think it would work, but if it was after a youtube carrier it might. it is still a while until he could and at that point i think he could win if he did pick a side. (and accept you'll lose some amount of support)
There absolutely is middle ground. I firmly believe if Biden (or any left leaning party here in europe) said that "We acknowledge that some migrants commit crimes and its an issue" instead of "Nothing like immigrant crime exists" far right would not be a thing. You dont have to appease everyone but acknowledgement of issues other side is pointing out is massive for people. There is massive untapped demographic of voters that are pushed to right or left.
@@cmike123 That wasn't a compormise, that was a placatting. The problem with idea of "compromise between left and right" is taht they fundmentally want different things. This isn't a problem of "he wants all the sugar, and they want no sugar s o we add some sugar". One side wants Freedom from Opressive systems and the other side wants the freedom to be an oppressive system. A comprimise happens when sides have resonable and rational objectives that don't contradict eachother.
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I am very against the phone bans. I worry over the active shooter situations. WHY would I trust the school offices to be able to alert on an active shooter when I cannot even rely on them to properly make sure active shooters do not get in, in the first place?
So I work with kids. A phone ban looks good on paper...except for the tiny little fact it means ALL PHONES get taken away. I can't tell you how many parents feel it's their right to reach their kids. They don't care if the kid shouldn't be on their phone, they NEED to reach their child to find out what the kid wants for dinner, or what time they will be out of class. And despite my boss giving their work number so that way the parent can get the answers without their kid getting in trouble, the parents would rather contact the kid because "it's just more convenient". In fact my boss has gone from a meeting with the principal about kids using their phone during after school (school rules still apply) hours, to a meet with a parent upset they can't just call their kid.
Wow!! Do these parents not talk to their children before/after school or during weekends to ask "Hey, I'm planning meals for the week. What would you like for dinner, on this night?" 🤦♀
@@FlowerMama23 I work in a fairly suburb area so a lot of the parents are either middle management or work two jobs. Guess who talks to their kids before hand and who feels it's their god-given right to talk to their kid whenever they want to
the phones in school is a sore subject for me :D my daughter is diabetic and she need her phone on her because it shares her blood sugar levels with me and her mom, and we chat with her when she needs to administer insulin for highs or eat something for lows. 'till now most schools we were at have been ok with her keeping it, as long as it's used only for that. and I'd love to think she only uses it just for that while she's there, but I know my kid and I'm sure she scrolls a bit (especially after yesterday she tried logging in crunchyroll while at school :D :D ) but yeah I don;t want her on her phone, but at the same time I need it on her and need to have some communication with her, going through calling administration to find her and tell her if she needs insulin or food takes way too long... been there done that
My biggest worry about a cell phone ban is a situation like Uvalde in which the children aren’t able to contact their parents because their phone are locked up.
@@matthewcaldwell8100 Insert any rare tragedy then, bad earthquake, bad fire etc. He has a point. You're too focused on the gun agenda. You can't regulate illegally gotten firearms bud, which is the bulk of what is used for murders.
@@matthewcaldwell8100 the issue isn't even the phones per se it's the internet - would make more sense to place restrictions on that instead. They should aIways have access to their phones in case of _any_ emergncy.
In a world where things like the Uvalde and Parkland incidents happen, banning/confiscating phones in the classroom should be the furthest thing from these people's minds. I get it especially when the teachers are trying to teach, but there has to be another solution.
There is, let kids keep their phones. If an individual decides to abuse the privilege take their phone until the end of the day/class. That's how it worked at my school. They don't need to be nazis about it with everyone. Kids looking at a text during a break in the teacher talking, or listening to music while they have solo work to do isn't harming anyone. The teachers realized this and were cool with us doing it. As long as we're getting our work done who cares? People didn't abuse it by playing games or something ridiculous while the teacher was talking. If they did then they'd be taken of course. But that was pretty much unheard of. If you're cool with people and give some leeway they're cool with you back. Sucks that other schools weren't more like ours. We don't need to make places of school and work completely unpleasant to be at and so controlled. But it feels like some people think that way, like giving any leeway is going to somehow compromise their superiority. In fact the opposite is true, when people aren't being pushed all the time they're better workers. Like the types of bosses who won't let people just look at their phone ever on shift, or ones that complain that if you've done your job you should go clean something instead of sitting down for a minute and giving your feet/back a break. Cleaning wasn't what I was hired for. If I got my work done and have 10 minutes of nothing coming in then leave me tf alone. The only bosses I worked for after I hit 20 are people who were chill, I couldn't handle anything else. When people work for me, they can go smoke a joint if they want as long as it doesn't affect their performance. Have never had a problem with anyone doing it so far, and everyone appreciates me not breathing down their backs and letting them relax a bit. You get your work done, I couldn't care less what you do with the rest of the time. A happy employee is a good employee. A happy employee is also someone who's not going to steal sht on their way out from angrily quitting lol. Which happened to the douche that wanted to me clean over me having a 10 minute gap in my workload. At least 2 guys I know of ended up stealing on their way out, simply because they hated the boss. I didn't, but I probably should have cause that guy was a creepy POS to the women there, on top of just being a general cnt to everyone. Whoops this turned into a rant my bad lol
As much as the phone issue with kids at school, it's hard to blame the pushback because 1. The parents/child bought the phone with their money, so it feels (NOT extreme thought, have to make that clear) like you're taking their autonomy 2. Most kids already know how horrible the US education system is, and some just hate the subject their forced to learn 3. It helps feeling in touch with family and friends, from the extreme cases... to just someone to talk to during class -NOW, at the same time, I/many others see why they take away said phones away. Hell, the result's speaks on its own. Maybe teach kids to learn boundaries, and teach them to be responsible... but that won't be possible due to the education system in the US.
I'm too old for the cell phone use but in college I often used my laptop to find better explanations than the 56th lecture about my professor's PhD paper topic. I can imagine some kids looking for ...for Dummies type sites, especially math.
A little late to this convo but I wanted to chime in anyway. I'm a substitute teacher working primarily at the high school level in a school of ~2000 students. As a sub I get to see a variety of classrooms and classroom management systems. Phones, and their usage is 100% a problem. But simple things like phone caddies or bins do so much for student productivity. Most of the classrooms that enforce a strict "turn your phone in at the start of class" policy are significantly more active and productive. So much so that many of the classes that have a rule like this will have the students turn in their phones at the start of class when I'm there even if the teacher didn’t leave behind any notes telling me they are supposed to do so. You don't NEED magnetic locking bags, just have the kids turn them in to an easily accessible caddie or bin and consider giving it back to them early if they complete their work for the day. And perhaps most importantly, you need all the teachers willing to be on the same page and an administration that will back them up when they try to enforce a rule that a student doesn’t like. The issue with phone policies now is that in some classrooms teachers just turn a blind eye to it or actively encourage the use of phones which leads to those students going to other classes and expecting the same freedom. You need consistent enforcement across the school for this to be as successful as it can be. I have talked to several of the faculty at the schools I work with, some are in agreement with me, but some also think it won't solve the problem or think that the amount of effort required from them to implement it will hinder their ability to run the classroom. While I generally disagree with the latter sentiment, I do agree that as many kids (re: all of them in my district) have a district issued Chromebook these days, it is likely that instead of browsing or chatting on phones they will just use their Chromebooks... but there are systems like district firewalls and something like GoGuardian can easily be put in place for teachers to manage internet use during class if they really need to. Tldr: Phones are, in fact, a problem. There are easy solutions, and based on my own anectdotal experience, these solutions do, in fact, work as long as all the faculty is on the same page.
My wife went to university in Finland for education, and told me they didn't enforce cell phones or kids not paying attention in general, unless it was disrupting other students. The attitude was that if they're not engaged, that's the student's loss and their grades will suffer. Unfortunately, the US always blames the teacher and the entire school when kids aren't are grade level. Teachers have to pay for supplies, but schools will spend money on cell phone pouches? This is so screwed up.
You can't hold the requirements for early public education to the same standards as universities and colleges. 1) You're choosing to pay for and go to college, and 2) you should be old enough to know better. You shouldn't expect kids in elementary and high school levels to make the right decision when choosing between entertainment and education.
I'm not hip to the rules and legalities these days, but teachers get reprimanded for students getting bad grades. You want to see a teacher with an overall success rate that says they are good at what they do. But of course one failure skews the data for all successes. Which doesn't make sense to me because I had a math teacher with a high failure rate and he still continues to teach today.
@@vinhhuynh4695 She was studying education in university and did student teaching in elementary school and it was the same across the board regardless of age and grade level.
Regarding the phone ban I'm completely against it. I grew up with phones in high school and if the teacher saw you using your phone(other than just listening to music while doing your work) you get a warning if you get caught again they take it for the remainder of the class. Instead of banning phones because kids are "sitting alone, isolated on their phones instead of engaging and learning with their peers" maybe investigate why they prefer their phone over other kids? Maybe the other kids don't want to be their friend, maybe they get bullied, maybe they have a tough time making friends, etc. It's not automatically the phones fault and hell it might make their day better than sitting alone doing nothing at all
When I was in high school a couple of my teachers made us hand in our phones at the beginning of each class and we wouldn’t get them back until class was over, so I bought a burner that I could hand in while keeping my real phone on me at all times.
Just out of high school. Phones are more useful than school and I went to one of the top 100 school in the country. I used it to understand instead of memorize information, I used it for music to focus because I had a hard time focusing in a classroom. I used it to check in on my grandma who at one stage had overdosed on meds by accident and needed to make sure she was ok every day. I needed my phone to call my best friend when I had a panic attack and was hiding in the bathroom. Taking away phones is just making it harder again on kids who don’t fit the cookie cutter mold we’re shoved into when we’re forced through school. The people who think this is a good idea are the same people that think clear backpacks are gonna solve gun violence…
I am really curious if you have any ideas that would allow the use of a phone but not give unlimited access to one in school. I agree that kids should have access to their devices and you made some really great points to back that up. But I also feel that some restrictions should be in place to encourage more participation in the social aspect of school. Some of the best times I had in school was the times I spent actively hanging out and socializing with friends. Heartbreaking to hear everyone is behind their screens at times anytime they can, especially at meal times and in the hallways.
So about the phones in schools thing; I don't have kids and I was in school pre smartphone era, so I don't have a frame of reference for how bad schools may have gotten in respect to cell phone usage, but I can say with certainty that whatever harm cell phones are causing is far less than bullying and guns are. Aside from that, every major service provider has very customizable parental control options that the parents aren't using or aren't using properly. Could some kids get around them? Probably, but likely only the same amount of kids that are getting around the other restrictions, if that many. This isn't a failure of children, this is a failure of parenting.
I think the idea of removing access to the phone via lock bags it's ridiculous. Then we will just go back to old school bowling you can't tell me before we had cell phones. People didn't get bullied and there wasn't fights. No, it's just more organized now because they have the ability to coordinate. Honestly, I think it's being blown out of proportion. I like the idea of putting them in a pouch at the beginning of class. I had to do that when I was in the high school. Granted phones were just becoming widespread then
On the youtube comment thing. As someone who basically lives in the comments I have thought for a long time youtube needs to make a community moderation feature where a creator can select a few accounts to help moderate comments. But I think youtube would need a messaging service, again, for this to work that way the creator can send the viewer/user a message to tell them they want them to moderate for them. On another subject youtube comments are probably the best platform compared to other sites. I mean there are major flaws but I see far less bots here than other places or compared to the "everything" app where to find user replies you have to dig through ads and "verified" accounts.
my high school actually had a way to control this. I grew up in high school 2008-2012 so I was around that time the iPod touch became super popular. The school had its own service you connected to that and certain websites and connections were blocked. So we couldn’t access sites like Facebook or other social medias. Now this was also right around when smart phones were still somewhat new so they didn’t have a way to block data connection but it was still better than nothing.
And yet they also do everything about nothing, its bizarre. I had a vid taken down because some black kid said the n word in a game I was in. Meanwhile black people have vids up everywhere of they themselves directly saying it lol, it makes no sense.
Even the smaller creators I follow have been having this problem w bots, typically as a reply to a popular comment. You can report every one, be t the EXACT SAME ACCOUNTS pop up on the next video. Given that the bot accounts themselves aren't even being shut down, I imagine RUclips isn't too bothered by it. Given how gross some of these comments are, it almost seems like yt is just ignoring the matter.
This. I've reported so many of them that have actual hate speech on their account and spam it all over. Nothing. You just see them repeating everything weeks later on other videos. It's so frustrating.
As far as voters go. I'm in NC TWICE when I went to vote, I was already checked off in the ledger as I had voted. 1st time it was my father since we have almost the same name. Just middle is different but same initial 2nd my father had not voted yet so no clue why I was marked off. But you just walk in and give a name with no ID if that name is on the list you vote as that person. I need to show ID to buy liquor, to fly, to enter some federal buildings, to do a lot of things, but vote, naa, we trust you are who you say you are. Some use the excuse some people can't get an ID cause they don't drive or the license office is too far away to get a non driving ID, something EVERY STATE has. Set up mobile ID busses, kiosks to go to these neighborhoods so people who can't drive or get to a license office has easy access. It seems easier to use this problem to get more votes then to fix it. One side says they are allowing illegals to vote with no id's so vote for us to stop that. The other is saying they are trying to stop you from voting by forcing you to have an ID that you just can't arrange cause of your situation. So vote for us. How about fix a damn problem for once instead of using it for votes.
Multiple-site (full time) public school California teacher here. I work specifically in elementary schools, so other than when the students are with me for music, most of my students are just with one classroom teacher. Some of the classroom teachers I worked with had a small box for the phones to be collected in at the beginning of the day and given away at the end. Some of the kids even forget to get them at the end. There is no need for special lock boxes or anything-they are just in a plain plastic bin. Honestly, in middle school and high school, school could install some sort of small locker system in the office or a similar space for students so a staff member can verify their phone is checked in if necessary. At most of my schools, though, students do not check in phones at are on them pretty constantly any chance they get. A lot of popular teaching strategy has either become keeping them so busy, engaged, and constantly playing learning games so they don’t get the chance to get distracted OR meeting them where they’re at and constantly having them on chromebooks.
You realize that elementary schools are a completely different ball game to high schools right? No high school kid is forgetting their phone at the end of the day and they're nowhere near as easy to distract lol
@@kltil5082 I realize that high schools are different. I have worked with high schoolers. I was just speaking from my experience because the potential law was not specific to high school.
I could see a federal voting ID, as long as it is tax funded and access to it is provided (time to get it is legally protected so you can take off of work to get it, transportation is either provided or gov vehicles bring the process to the people). BUT I do also know it'd be used to create the biggest pool of gov controlled facial recognition data ever.
@@jiri-korinek Our right wing does its best to make voting as difficult as possible. The UK isn't much better in the way it tailors the acceptable IDs for voting to be skewed towards the elderly.
So Crunchy Roll just nuked their entire comment section and Reviews, completely removing any form of community on their platform. If RUclips follows suit over this I'll be pissed.
They already have, RUclips turns off comments for certain videos, graphic videos, news stories, political debates. Take the presidential debate for example, it’s difficult to find a video with comments on. We can not allow that to happen, bad things happen when people stop discussing.
One of my favourite things to do on Crunchy Roll was to check the comments after watching an episode. Reviews also helped me gauge whether a show was worth watching. I hope RUclips doesn't follow suit.
Crunchy roll comments were mostly a cesspool, but I will miss being able to scroll down and see quickly if an episode is completely recap or if there is anything new mixed in.
I was wondering where the comments section went on Crunchy Roll. Ugh now I’m just sad. Do you know if they will bring it back at some point or is it permanent?
With the bots, you can block out some keywords to attempt to block them. But they will just use different sentences, and you risk blocking legitimate comments. RUclips needs to just actively block links from anyone other than the creator
I think it's the effort that counts here and the communities feel like the RUclipsr aren't trying to remove these comments. I personally think if you're so successful that you can make money speaking your mind that you should put everything you can into making the platform that made you better. I'd lose sleep removing these comments.
@VemoNotRated it isn't ideal, but any of the really well off creators can certainly hire moderators for when its really bad. But you're still talking about a full time job across multiple videos, it's not tenable really. It needs to fall more on RUclips
I'm from the UK, and when I went to school the policy was no phones at all on school campus as soon as the first bell rings. The only exception was for the final 2 years of school who had free periods who could use their phones then. This policy was then enforced by the teachers. However, I understand that schools in America are chaotic and teachers already have a tough enough time dealing with existing stuff, let alone dealing with policing phone use. However, and I don't mean to bring this up as a way to just hit American, but it's an important point. Taking away all kids phones and banning them from schools, is stupid. Not only because kids might need it getting to and from school, but also in cases of emergencies, such as, if their school has an active shooter inside......
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RUclips is ruthless when a content creator uses a no-no word like suicide or rape but can't stop bots promoting illegal stuff like CP or animal abuse.
If you drop an f-bomb within the first minute it can mess up your whole video or if you say too many curse words like "hell" but yeah they can't fix the bots like I still see every time there is a technoblade video that is made these days there's always bot comments with the most horrific things spammed hundreds of times.
RUclips is also doing things like pushing ads for "mental health apps" like Liven. I checked the online reviews and reddit posts about the app. Its predatory af.
The thing is, no matter how many times I block Liven app ads, they still come up. I honestly feel harassed and powerless to control something as simple as my feed
I think it’s fine
RUclipsrs have had to change the way they talk about serious topics, self-censoring in the most ridiculous way even if they're talking about it respectfully. Topics like suicide or abuse need to be discussed (with care) because they are a thing and cannot just be swept under the rug to appease advertisers.
Yup, and claim there's no way to stop it.
And they have the audacity to go after adblockers instead of dealing with these bots and scam ads.
Allow me to correct you, they have the *_RIGHT_* to go after those cheating them out of money.
@@DaddyDumptruckDeluxeAnd the DUTY & OBLIGATION to investigate, report and ban accounts using bots that advertise that crap
@@DaddyDumptruckDeluxei can never imagine bootlicking for a megacorp that's worth billions, treats it's creators like crap and continue to have inappropriate ads 😂 but you're concerned they have the *right* to go after a 3rd party service that makes the site better... You might be a bot lol
I reported an ad from temu offering an iPhone 15 for $10. I obviosly know it's a scam, but after working at a call center I know how many dumb people there is out there.
Anyway, I have continued to be shown this ad and I feel like it's the only ad they have showed me since the report. Annoying af.
@@JacindatheGreat Literally putting an emphasis of fighting ad blockers instead of stamping out a literal cp problem. Complete clown behavior.
The fact that phones are even allowed during class today is baffling to me. I graduated in 2013. We all had iPhones and androids during high school. But we were never allowed to have them out during school. I remember teachers taking them and keeping them for the entirety of the class if they did see you. I remember having to sneak texts in my backpack. I was only allowed to have them out during art classes for references sometimes because my teacher was cool and let us listen to music while we painted. One time I got detention and my phone taken away until my parents came and got it. All because I was signing out of a class to leave and you would have to write down what time you left, so without thinking I pulled my phone out of my pocket and checked the time on my phone. Lady working at the office saw it and I got in trouble. To think that today kids can be on their phones all throughout class without any consequences is wild to me. 😭
Some Kids these days will physically fight you, storm out of school, and do not give a single flying fuck about detention and there is little to no support coming from the family at home
Same here, graduated in 2015. Lately when I scroll tiktok, I even see kids live streaming while in class. Like... ???
Currently have two teens in High School. This is only half of the story and the other half is how the software the schools purchase to keep youtube and snapchat and tiktok from being on their chromebooks and ipads is worthless. My freshman was watching anime in her math class. My sophomore was snapping her friends and other such activities while during school. The adults who run the schools grossly overestimate how much is only the phones when my kids have had ipads or chromebooks since elementary school.
in the mid 90's we weren't even allowed calculator watches at my school, anything went beep and the teacher's head snapped up and started doing a scan of the room like they were the newest terminator model. still feels weird sometimes to me that cellphones are not just phones but a pocket sized multimedia center and mini supercomputer now, and such a part of life we can't leave the house without em from childhood. even in college during the rise of cellphones becoming widespread we as grown adults weren't allowed to just pull em out anytime during class, and they had to be quieted during.
@@blackdandelion5549 I graduated 2014 and we had iPads in school. Teachers had wifi jammers in their classrooms and had them on except for free periods/study halls and researching. (When researching, outside of seniors, they'd walk around and look at your screen (small classes)).
There was a movement last year by several schools here (Ireland) to have all the parents in a school agree not to buy their kids smart phones (primary school so 4-13 year olds). The point being that it is reassuring for them to be able to call or text parents in an emergency but they don't need to be able to use the internet, and by having it be agreed by all the parents it became easier to enforce because none of the kids were 'left out" because their classmates couldn't have smart phones either.
Yup- i'm not buying my kids a smartphone but I *will* get them a normal phone (a plain, only for calls one). They need the phone. But no, they do not need the internet that ready and at their fingers- it has been proven it's very damaging to be on social media at all times *and* harms their school ability :(
Part of me hopes shitty flip phones will come back into style for this purpose. Mostly because I'm very nostalgic about my first phone and also because seeing a 6 year old with an iphone gives me so much anxiety.
I was in school from 1991 - 2005 and virtually no one had a phone. Even when i was in high school the only phones were flip phones and maybe mid way into high school did phones have cameras on them and by graduation the first keyboard phones came out to replace T9 texting. The first smart phone did not come out till 2007. I feel my generation (Millenial) was the last generation without phones in schools and without social media. As a result i'm not as addicted to my phone as kids are today. When me and my wife go out, the only time we bring out our phones is either to check the time or be annoying and take pictures of our food, but we don't post them on social media, we just send it to a friend later once we get home, but the whole date and meal is just us talking to one another.
I am horribly addicted to my computer, and as a result i have lost contact with many friends but they are friends i made in school. I can't imagine how hard it is for kids to make and retain friends when they are addicted to their phones all day and not building those relationships.
If parents need to contact their kids in school then they can do what my parents would do and call the school and the school can make an announcement or call the class the kid is in.
I have a friend that needs to occasionally post on FB to have people call 911 to the school cause she's chronically ill and no one checks on her in the bathroom. It's sad, but it's true. There are needs to make mass posts.
@@ArchReverend I had my first cellphone in high school. When I did not have a cellphone when I was younger, I could not coordinate with my dad on when he'll pick me up from school. Sometimes my sis and I would wait at the waiting area for as long as 4 hours (we have to keep looking at the gate the whole time. It's super stressful). If we have cellphones back then, we could have studied at the library or play with our friends. (My school's waiting area was not conducive to studying)
So the slurs, racism, and bot spam about child sexual abuse weren’t enough - now we’ve got actual CP bots. Great.
There’s one bot advertising a video of someone killing their dog😣
How do the bot comments get through but lightly spicy comments from actual people "discussing" things get auto deleted?
Lol yeah get gud stop caring
I am SURE the push for smarter AI isn't going to make this shit worse either.
I mean, CP has always been an issue with RUclips. There are a couple channels that got heat a while back that had video with women and children that seems innocent but almost always had had the woman or child at odd angles and positions, creeped a lot of people out. There are some dubious content is out there and there are plenty of scumbags trying to get past the system trying to either game the system or overload it to get something past.
it's wild that they're talking about limiting cellphone usage in schools because when I was growing up if we were caught on our phones texting, playing snake or tetris (before we all got the first smartphones ever), or taking pictures we had to hand our phones over to our teachers and depending on how mean they wanted to be they would either give the phone back at the end of the period or you'd have to fight your way to that classroom after the last bell rang and grab your phone before you missed your bus (which sucked cuz you either had to find a new ride or wait til your parent or someone else could come get you). like it's so wild to me when I see all these tiktoks from kids in school and nobody takes them away because mine would've been taken in a heartbeat 🙄😡
To anyone who wants an explanation, the bots exploit a unicode where it uses right-to-left characters to flip text that makes their comment look backwards to the system. To us, the comment looks normal because the characters are displayed correctly.
Interesting. Maybe I should start pasting those to the start of my comments discussing “controversial” things and see how many get auto-demoted then.
Dang that’s pretty interesting actually.
crazy idea: youtube blocks out non normal characters
@@TheeAcid The question is what is designated as a "normal character"?
Whilst things get vastly more complicated for other languages, a great place to start for English (which, is the majority of comments and content on RUclips) might be to restrict comments to what can be typed out on an English keyboard, whether that be the basic set of ASCII characters, or a restricted set of Unicode characters, disallowing the use of copy-pasted custom text (though preferably without disallowing copy-pasted text as a whole). Secondarily, a loooot of these bots copy and paste top comments, or comment the same or very similar things across several popular videos. It should be trivial for RUclips to come up with a filter for that.
i would like to say before anyone says " alec baldwin was a producer on set, so he was responsible for the safety of the set" while baldwin was 1 of like 10 producers his responsibility as producer was merely creative in nature he was responsible for casting and script revisions and nothing else. he literally had no authority to control safety on the set. OSHA already found him not culpable
I'm a teacher in Australia and we have a policy that students are allowed to have their phones on them but if they use them whilst on school grounds without permission they then get it taken off them for the day. We've got all the same benefits that were being listed for the pouches without having to take phones off the entire school for the day. The biggest problem we have is parents still messaging their kids throughout the day despite wanting this policy.
I graduated before full phone ban waves came into effect, most I got was a stern "No phones in class", but I'm glad there is still the opportunity of using it. I used my phone to monitor my blood glucose levels as a T1 diabetic, teachers would often let students record things for projects or science experiments and getting alerts from parents or reminders for something scheduled was very useful. I guess it's a balance between how useful a phone can be to students and how much it disrupts teachers, and individual schools can make that call without it being inforced by governments.
IMO the biggest thing that impacts learning is being singled out, being the one student with a phone was more often than not a source of embarassment, I'm still haunted by the 'ding' alert in the exam room and all eyes turned to me.
This is great in theory but not physically realistic in some US schools- esp if admin is not backing us up. I know a bunch of kids who would refuse and walk out or try to fight the adult trying to take their phone. And some of these kids are much bigger and stronger than staff.
@@boiqi often in the case of a phone being used for tracking blood glucose, students will have this written into a 504 or IEP plan, stating that they need access to their phone for medical reasons, even if there is a phone ban in place in the school itself.
I attended a school with the Yondr pouches. The main things I noticed were how frustrating it was for teachers who wanted to use phones during class to have to spend at least five minutes opening all the pouches, a switch from getting in trouble for being on a phone to getting in trouble for playing card games, and the fact that I have next to no photos with my friends because we weren’t even allowed to have them out during lunch. Not to mention that it was incredibly expensive to buy the pouches, students were buying magnet openers and charging others to unlock their phones, and all of us learned how to fake-close or jam/break the pouches by blocking or bending the needle.
As for the comment about “you can just cut the pouches open with scissors” in an emergency, they’re WAY too heavy-duty for that, especially with cheap school scissors; if you’ve got a knife you could probably manage it, but if you have a knife at school then that’s an issue of its own.
I'm also in Australia, our school policy is that phones can be taken from students if/when they become an issue, and must be returned to students at the end of that class.
I will often have a couple of phones sitting on my desk by the end of a class, but it works just fine.
Shit, cell phones weren't even a thing when I was in school and I still was isolated and alone during lunch time.
Loser by beck.
@@AMPProf Nah, probably just an introvert.
@@InsoIence it's a song😅
So happy more creators are pushing RUclips to do something about the bots. Hoping other social platforms do the same thing. Reporting the bot accounts and comments seems to do nothing.
Still important to report and not engage with them though. But yeah it is shocking that more isn't being done by those with the power to do so. I can't believe folks are blaming the YTers though--as if they have control over more of the system than they do. Buckwild.
Blocking doesn't work either. It baffles me RUclips hasn't implemented a functional block button yet. Just a block button that insures we'd never see the comments and videos of the repeat offender block channels would go a long way in fixing the problem user side. I've "hidden" channels that I can confirm I still see despite the fact they're supposed to be hidden from my view. Just do like Facebook and, if they're blocked, you can't even visit their channel unless you willingly go to your settings and unblock them.
@@silversugar2140 I think there's an impression uploaders can block these bots from their channels, but it seems limited capacity and undersells just how many damn bots there are. It really is like a hydra and I know I can't blame creators for not hitting every bot in a game of infinite whack-a-mole.
@@gregvs.theworld451 110%
Edit: the first part my comment, the part from the beginning to "channel -", is not really comprehensible; I do not know how to fix the comment.
Supposing that this is not a bot - such as it's not the case that the bot is now hiding by looking like an innocent channel - I saw your message before, but it was from a comment of a bot that stole it from you.
Regarding schools and phones. I can see a ton of uses for those pouches and the general public (adults, kids & teens). Meetings, churches, another tool for the self-employed ... just for starters. Ten years ago my husband was auditing a few courses to earn a degree and the number of college students sitting at their desks with their phones in full view, not paying any attention to the instructor, shocked him. So it's not just school kids. Hell, think of all the grown ass adults that still use their phones directly while driving. My 72yr old sister got hit by a woman that had a phone to her ear while rounding a corner. (She's mostly okay but has needed therapy because it shook her up so much).
There was a post I saw on some site or another about people using them to restrict phone use during their wedding ceremony. They would literally put the phone in the pouch and hand it back to the person, so they had the phone physically with them at all times and were able to leave and unlock it if necessary. So it was shocking the amount of people that said they wouldn’t go to a wedding if they couldn’t have their phone out of the pouch during the ceremony. Something that lasts maybe an hour at most but is often just 20-30 minutes. Because that was too restrictive for them. People don’t even realize how attached they are to their phones as adults.
I love how RUclips will demonetize a channel and not even give a reason why so the creator can fix it, but they do NOTHING about the bots whatsoever. -.-
anything YT does, Bot account makers will find ways around. the problem is, Bot accounts are so easy to make and flood sites with, there is little downsides to running them. more so when people are dumb enough to trust them.
They can probably pretend those are real users to investors and sponsors, like Twitter did with Elon.
They do a metric fuck ton about bots, I assure you. You're not considering the scale and complexity of the issue
@TechSquidTV No they absolutely don't, Moist Critikal's videos have been infested with bots for years and he's not some small creator.
@@ardent835 Can you share your ideas on exactly what YT should do?
Not just broad strokes, exactly what steps.
When every eligible voter votes, Republicans tend to lose elections. That's why Republican politicians put up hurdles to try to decrease the number of voters. They especially do this from statehouses targeting urban areas that tend to be more Democratic than Republican or colleges and universities for the same reason. They also gerrymander electoral areas more than Democrats because more fairly drawn voting maps also tend to lead to more Democratic victories.
Always remember, it's been decades since a Republican has won the popular vote. Basically they can only winning by gaming the system. And yeah, they have a full tool belt to manufacture this situation.
😂🤣😂🤣 when "surprise water leaks" and vote counts that used to take 1 night take 3 weeks... democrats win.
They also leverage gerrymandering, immigration both legal and illegal with lax voter id laws, and exploit media especially social media to control low iq low information individuals who care about politics for 5 seconds every 4 years and get their marching orders from leftist hacks like... well. Phil.
both sides seem to have their tricks, Republicans with the hurdles you described and the Democrats leveraging immigration and voter ID laws to their benefit. Both sides are a mess.
@@MrFearDubh when you lack voter id requirements, have convenient water leaks in key ridings and take 3 weeks to count what used to take 1 night, democrats win
Yep, I live in Texas and it's why we've been fighting SO HARD and getting SO CLOSE to flipping the state blue (Ted Cruz only won by 2% last time and there was wonky shit going on with the voting machines and straight party tickets), but haven't been able to do it. Texas is one of, if not THE most gerrymandered state in the US. The Texas GOP has made it virtually impossible for Democrats to gain any power because of the way they've sliced and diced up our blue cities, and it's pathetic. They can't win legitimately, so they do shit like that while accusing Democrats of doing illegal shit to fix elections. 🙄
Having worked in a high school the last handful of years, this cell phone ban is going to be a doozy in its execution. The district I was working in started talking about implementing one at the end of the previous school year, and there were a number of admin that felt like it was a waste of time and were already preparing to be done with it weeks into the new school year.
If there’s no support/want-to from the faculty to implement it & enforce it: it will fail. If parents don’t seriously crack down on their children and remind them that class isn’t for do-as-you-please cell phone use: it will fail
I can agree that cell phones are bad in a class setting. But on the other hand, as others have stated in emergencies or shooting events it's imperative for a line of communication to remain open. The problem is most kids can't be disciplined enough to keep off their cellphones, especially if they're bored or just disconnected from the class/teacher. It's a tough balancing act, and I can only see it getting worse as time goes on and technology advances.
Bro when I read about this whole this morning I facepalmed. How are kids going to be able to find help if they need to call for it? I unnderstand the backpacks, but phones?? In this day and age of school violence? Nah.
@@madisonevans7950 You can easily have the locking bags Phil mentioned with the machine that unlocks it in a classroom
@@madisonevans7950 institute a rule where they can't be on their phones in class but can keep the phones in their bags. easy.
My district had each of the high schools try a different moderation of cell phones to see which was most effective.
Mine was the most strict, and at the start of the school year, the first 2 months were a big crack down and it got was easier to enforce after that because all the students and parents were aware of the consequences.
The district made it more lax, but applicable across the whole district (10 high schools)
Students can have their phones on them, but away during class. Passing periods, and lunch do what you want.
1st seen, warning to put away. 2nd offense in the phone caddy. if students refuses to put phone away, it moves onto admin to turn in the phone. If this is a pattern of behavior across classes there's a phone plan put in place, which can result in turning the phone in every day and getting it back at the end, usually for 2-4 weeks. If the pattern is just in one class, it's more of a meeting with admin or counselor with student/and or the teacher to see what the disconnect is- not always done together.
Biggest issue I have is students recording fights and sending them around the school.
I think the phone ban really put the addiction into perspective for me. These kids have known nothing but a phone since they were born. And it's not like they had so much a choice in the matter. These addictions weren't by choice, it was formed because they were given access to instantaneous dopamine when their brains were the most malleable. It feels more like we've just forced an entire generation to smoke cigarettes. Forcing them to put down the cigarettes during school might give them angst at first, but it's a serious push towards a better future for them.
I should also add that the excuse parents use of "I want to be able to call my kid in an emergency" is total bullshit. Call the school. That's how we've always done it, even before we had cellphones. If a school shooting happens, having a thousand kids call their parents all at once is going to cause a massive influx of traffic and could even hinder communications with law enforcement to handle the situation.
Edit: Holy shit the expert actually compared it to a cigarette. I wrote this entire comment before I saw that lmao
This CP thing has actually been documented for months now on the RUclips sub reddit. Apparently one user clicked and went into a link and confirmed (don't do this) and has reported it to the FBI. But youtube has done nothing.
Moist also was one of the video comment sections recently that showed this so I firmly believe him when he says it's beyond what a creator can keep up with.
Most surprising thing to me is that the bot delivered on their promise, as illegal and disgusting as it may be.
@@jb888888888Same. I thought it was all talk. That’s really disturbing
I think when it comes to child porn, if you know thats happening in your comments and you rely on RUclips’s automated tools. You’re not doing enough. It’s child porn. In your comments. Hire someone. Report it. It’s crazy to me that they think automated tools is enough. That’s lazy entitlement
If you watch moists latest video the entire comment section has those bots
And not all of the U-Whatever comments ARE bots. A ton are manual copy/paste spammers and active harassment. I only know because I saw some talking about errors made and a few got into some spats. Most are bots but a shocking amount are not. It's why a lot evade because they have documented comment histories and stuff like that. It's so gross. Obviously regardless report, block, and move on. It's all bad.
The Mr beast thing is interesting because to me it highlights how little people understand about the political process in this country. The idea that people with diametrically opposed views are going to work for the same president and advise them is obviously laughable. Plus, we've already hit our quota for celebrity presidents for this century.
Yeah sleepy Joe is President. Are you OK. Ronald Regan was a actor and president. Trump also was a president. Mr. Beast is correct to not want to follow his political party. Democrats want a old man as their president. Because this old man is the one that can beat Donald? So Democrats can't give us a better candidate? We have to be happy with a old what did Joe say Biden?
Yeah, to me Jimmy's statement came off a bit as enlightened centrist in a way. Like those on the left and right wont be able to realistically work closely together unless they're both from either side of the centre and not far from it. Especially on social issues such as Trans rights, Abortion access, Education etc. Like I can't imagine any republican that 's currently in the house or Senate that wouldn't turn on Jimmy because of his great vocal support for Ava.
@@ATSaale the people that would vote for Mr.Beast aren’t old enough to vote let alone know much about politics.
As soon as I heard “I’ll listen to experts on both sides..” I knew this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about and should stick to RUclips.
Jimmy, though his intention is good, also is woefully ignorant of politics on an international stage and the importance of being perceived as a strong, reliable leader, especially the leader of the free world. You think ally nations will take him seriously, let alone the leaders of more hostile nations like Putin and Xi Jinping? Definitely not.
Ted Lieu over here going "well...when life gives you lemons...make lemonade" and that's kind of iconic.
Though I will point out Ted Lieu's "correction" of the headline didn't really deny he said what was reported. He used his press conference just to reiterate how f*cked up Trump is and to not vote for him. Which fair, I think that should be said every single second of every single day on the news how he is legitimately a threat against democracy and of world peace itself (if he becomes President, Ukraine will disappear as a nation as Trump loves Putin, and he will likely do nothing as Putin looks to recreate the USSR, decimating most of eastern Europe in the process), but I did find it a little funny how his attempt at countering a report of something he said was false, was instead just a deflection to get the media to cover other stuff.
Except the reason the media hasn't brought it up is that Trump had his wife and kids on each of those flights and has been verified that he never went to the island.
There is a story about a veteran that has been driving for 63 years being unable to renew his license in Tennessee because he has a Canadian birth certificate. Both his parents were U.S. citizens. His citizenship was verified for his military service. This is the kind of person that would be disenfranchised by the voter bill.
So, we uproot the whole system over a few flaws? Sounds like something that would have come up over the past 63 years. Me thinks more may be afoot here.
Yeah this sounds like BS to me. Don’t get me wrong I disagree with the bill but the facts are: To issue a drivers license or any other identification TN accepts foreign birth certificates if they are English and non English ones if they have a Certificate of Accurate Translation with them.
TN also accepts Military ID as primary identification when applying for a state ID. This can also include a military ID card or discharge papers.
@@dillonh321 The guy's name is David O’Connor.
There is literally only one reason to vote against the voter bill, to abet voter fraud. That's it.
@@dillonh321
Looking at it the problem was not that he could not get it
Its that it was REMOVED from him because it "shouldn't have been given out "
What I find interesting is that citisenship is on the federal level
Here the state is saying that he isn't a citizen beside it being outside of their juridiction
You know what can erode mental health as a kid? Being verbally and physically bullied and beaten down in school and the schools not doing jack shit about it.
Ya... that just it. Always blame the person who hit their limit and not person who caused the damn thing.
Yep, felt that. I just left my house today for the first time in at least a year due to that.🙃
Oh, they do something about it alright. They turn a blind eye when the bully harrasses others and intervene when the victim fights back. Teachers and school "officials" enable this abuse.
@@Synthwave89witnessed that first hand.
@@FS-qk5uq good job bro
I started high school about 10 years ago and I spent most of it with a dummy phone. Either way I very much appreciated being able to contact my parents for help, especially when I was having a mental health crisis. The one time I was having a mental health crisis, I didn’t have to go and talk to some stranger about the fact that I was having a crisis instead of only having to talk to someone I trusted as a substitute teacher, I have seen that phones can get absolutely out of control. I have also seen teachers pounce at the throat of students with their blood sugar pumps. It’s a very hard question and one I feel like there are better options than taking away phones or putting them in those pouches.
You aren’t giving an actual solution, just a “I think it’s bad and will be saying nothing else.”
When I remember my high school. People who weren't interested in learning were messing around bothering others. My friend sometimes read book under the desk and I often was drawing whenever teacher would go on tangent about something related but not worth noting into be notebook. Sure students maybe more talked to each other but there already were introverted outcasts preferring reading or drawing.
And there were bored bullies entertaining themselves by bullying others. Sure with phones it can be massive distraction but only banning phones won't solve it.
I think the cellphones spark a larger discussion on the way that teachers have lost all authority. I had a cellphone in 2000 as did maybe 20% of my class but the teachers had a strict "If it goes off or I see it at any time, you can pick it up after school" rule. I hear from my friends that're currently teachers and they aren't allowed to do anything; even the threat of detention or suspension is powerless these days. I really hope these pouches work but like everything in public school, what's the cost of those, who pays for it, and what's the impact it'll have on lower-income schools?
You read my mind. It is crazy how neutered a teacher's authority is now days. I remember there being other classroom disruptive items that existed, not just cellphones. None of them were a real problem because the teacher would just take them away.
As others have mentioned, I blame the parents for supporting this behavior. A lot of adults I know use social media more than kids. They won’t condemn their child’s behavior because then they would have to condemn their own.
@@ScagAteHersame, I got a lot of detentions as a kid. Pretty much all of them were for goofing off. Never fighting, never swore or stuff like that. I would never swear or cross a certain line because I literally didn’t want to know what type of trouble I’d be in from my mom and dad. I was in trouble enough already for petty stuff like being late, talking without raising my hand, no book cover (yes detention and denied DC field trip for no book cover). Usually punished with farm work. If a teacher called my parents and said not only will he not get off his phone but he’s refusing to give it me…I wouldn’t even go home. I’d just have to start life a new with one eye always open.
@@CMTZ11 lmao I heard that. I was more afraid of my parents than anyone and their #1 rule was to not disrespect adults. I don’t think that’s the case these days. Also thanks for triggering me about the book covers lol. I’d forgotten all about those dark days.
@@ScagAteHer goddamn don’t get me started on the book cover paradox. Go walk around with a shotty looking book cover so that the actual cover of the book doesn’t get damaged and look bad despite no one ever getting to see the front of the textbook because it had to be covered in a crappy looking book cover.
I'm a teacher at a private junior high and high school in Japan. In the morning, all phones are collected and put in a locked cabinet for the day. After the last class, they're returned to the students.
Makes sense why phones are banned first in Florida. They don’t want students looking up things to fact check their teachers lol
Some Teachers already cant stand getting corrected by the the textbook assigned. Had a teacher dispise me for using the introduction to challenge her shakespeare trivia and for knowing the local college professor that disagreed with her take.😅
I always see teachers who want to be right and/or have authority over students is kind of sad.
the phone thing feels kinda redundent as it feels like there just rehashing the same thing every year. like what if a kid needed a phone for emergency. there gonna turn off all service in the school area black area it and then locking it up in a locker which already been proven from 1960s barly could protect stuff if someone breaks into it
@@thisbsuchadopekid 🤣😂 too bad you don't need a phone to fact check california teachers. What is a woman again?
@@thisbsuchadopekid at least you need a phone to debunk Florida teachers. Far more than can be said for california teachers..
Even if there are expressed medical exemptions from the no phones in school policy I still worry. I've heard stories of students with hearing aids being told they cant wear them in class due to teachers not understanding they aren't headphones. It's already very hard as a young person to get medical concerns taken seriously, all it takes is one substitute teacher to not allow a student to have necessary technology for disaster to strike.
There is no situation in which a student needs a fucking cell phone for medical reasons, what are you talking about.
@@matthewcaldwell8100 well for my condition I use a Apple Watch and my phone to monitor my heart rate to prevent me fainting. And my cousin uses a phone to monitor glucose levels for diabetes. It’s a real concern for more people than you might think!
@@matthewcaldwell8100any student who realizes they are having a medical emergency, such as an allergic reaction to a food another student is eating, they’ll need to call emergency services. Teachers often times don’t care enough or realize how dangerous that is to a student and say sit back down. The teachers in the states don’t get paid enough to care about students. If I hadn’t pulled my phone out against my teachers wishes, I wouldn’t be here today. Your argument missed something. Thanks, have a lovely day.
@@RedGoggles5285 Your individual experience is not the basis for a policy. Get an epipen and stop behaving like schools didn’t exist and function before everyone had a cell phone.
Yeah... that hearing aid thing has been happening since the early 00s and it even happens to adults in workplace situations. It's truly abhorrent, esp. when a lot of hearing aids look pretty different up close. I know the fancy models now have the ability to act also like bluetooth earbuds, but a hearing device is a hearing device. Kids shouldn't run the risk of having such things confiscated. *_That said, I think that issue is more one of TRAINING than one of regulations. The faculties of all schools should be properly and THOROUGHLY educated on the tools of the differentially abled, so that they are aware of how to handle discerning (or asking professionally/politely) what is or is not an assistive device that is allowed in class._* They also need to be trained more thoroughly on how to keep track of students with exemptions and how to appropriately handle the situation if a student with an assistive device that can, say, play music on it, is doing that instead of just using the device's assistive features for their class work.
These are sensitivity and diversity training issues that MANY teachers/faculty (esp. the ones who are older) do not get unless there's been some "big thing" that happened that requires the board implement an instance of that training. It many cases, the teachers haven't even discussed much of that since they were in teacher's college/university, prior to getting their jobs... So if you have a teacher who's been teaching 20+ years at present, you have someone who likely has a lot of out-of-date training from the early 2000s. Not exactly helpful to them or the students.
Yes, a lot of teachers will go out of their way to keep up to date on changes in their subjects and in these additional areas as well... but can you really count on it? With how burned out most of the ones who are older than a year or two at the job actually are, I would hazard that MANY just do not have the resources or anything to add this stuff to their workloads voluntarily.
But it does need to happen. They need to be all getting regular training/refresher courses on these sorts of things precisely so they do not make these mistakes. I've heard FAR too many stories from students I've tutored, either about their own accessibility needs and devices, or about friends and peers who had incidents they witnessed.
At least it's (from what I've seen with my students) teaching them awareness and compassion for those with disabilities... 😬
I literally just encountered the CP bots saying the most heinous shit possible on a short a couple hours ago and I could not believe my eyes. Insane.
make sure to report any instance to the national center for missing and exploited children. the fbi too but i wouldn't rely on them
Me too! It was wild. Even wilder to turn around and see it covered here. Great timing. Gross bots. Hope your eyes feels better soon 💙
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Whenever someone big dies or has something bad happen to them an avalanche of bots say horrible shit in any related comment section. It has been going on for many years now, like when Technoblade died you saw bots spamming any minecraft video with those types of comments for months afterwards. It's even more disgusting that these bots are promoting cp now.
I don't want spam in my comments, and I certainly don't want links to CP in my comments. People misunderstand what it would be like to moderate our comment sections. It's not just one video. If you have 1000 videos uploaded, with millions of views, they're ALL getting comments. Nobody can moderate that. Individual RUclipsrs cannot stop it. It has to be done at a higher level.
Here's a potential solution for the school cell phone issue. Someone could make an app that geo-locks the phone when on school grounds into a mode that's similar to airplane mode but still allows for calls and texts from a parent approval list of contacts. You can make the app password protected by the parents so kids can't just turn it off.
I like this idea
I like that idea, but in my classes many parents are so removed from cell phone etiquette that they will call/text/chat with their kids during the day just to say what’s up. Parents should know to call the office and pass a note to the teacher in the event of a schedule change/emergency. Anything else can just wait like it had to twenty years ago. I would have a total geolock.
dont forget allowing medical apps
good luck making them put the app on the phone.
Glad people are talking about the RUclips bot problem
Bots have ruined comments sections for years, look into the dead internet theory
What if the bots start posting about dead internet theory?
@@stickball77that would likely play into the Dead Internet Theory
@@simpletown323 I prefer Game Theories
@@olknoxlo i like Food Theories really.
It would be really funny if you’re a bot that’s self aware.
As a film technician of a decade and theatre technician of 15 previous years, Alec was a producer of “Rust”. He absolutely curated a dangerous work environment by hiring inexperienced individuals in key safety roles. The armourer was one, the 1st AD was the second; nearly the entire camera department quit that day due to unsafe working conditions. Too many below the line technicians are placed in harms way by production under a toxic veil of “we’re all family”, family doesn’t put you on train tracks, make you self drive over an hour home after a 14-15 hour camera day after months of the same, a family doesn’t point a gun at you.
You're full of it. the armorer was responsible for the whole situation.
@@wmdkitty thank you for showcasing your absolute illiteracy with film working standards and conditions.
Well said! 👏👏👏
So phones weren't already banned in schools? The whole time I was in school, cell phones were far less common but students still had them. And anytime they were used (and assuming they were seen being used), teachers or school security would flat out confiscate them and you'd usually have to go to the office either after class or at the end of the school day to get it back. Sometimes you'd even get detention or something for it too. Sure the phones we had then weren't as versatile as they are now, but these things were never allowed to be used during school hours.
This often applied to other handheld electronics like the Gameboy, DS, PSP, iPod's, disc/MP3 players, etc. as well, and typically any other toys that could become major distractions or were used inappropriately (marbles, pogs, and trading cards just to name a few).
This discussion of public schools which need more lax rules to function like they should.
In Australia our voting is mandatory, but the process is very simple - people complain about having to vote, but some will enter invalid votes instead - I would much rather it be easier for everyone than like the US system, one of my friends in the US who cares a lot about their vote says sometimes they have to spend over 2 hours just enrolling to vote on local issues 🤯 the level of polarisation in the US is crazy as well - no politician, party (or president) deserves your unwavering support. It really feels like Americans have been gaslit into treating it almost as a sport, is there actually a lot more independent thinking than there seems to be? It seems that Government is achieving less and less, while both sides seem to try to leverage a ‘threat to democracy’ into pulling in more and more donations / support… maybe if things were running better it would be more behind the scenes and people wouldn’t pay attention or be invested?
It's not hard to vote in the US at all. I don't mean to be a dick, but your friend is maybe exaggerating a bit, it doesn't take 2 hours to vote or enroll in voting, not even a little bit.
When you move to a new state or you get your driver's license for the first time, you can enroll in voting, it's a 1-and-done deal and you never have to deal with it again. If you skip voting enrollment, then maybe you have to go back to the DMV or register online later, but that's all. And that applies at all levels, state, federal, and local, it's 1 registration per state.
Unfortunately part of the polarization that you speak of includes 1 side (young people, specifically, it seems) claiming it's an impossibly long/difficult task to vote, but it really isn't. :-\. They claim the same for taxes even though they're pretty much copy/paste for like 85% of Americans.
You also gotta keep in mind that every state has their own rules regarding elections (including Federal ones), so it's probably wrong to summarize it as "easy" or "hard."
And yeah, you hit the nail on the head about government action. They're power drunk, so their best play is to achieve nothing and keep their constituents in constant fear so they'll be re-elected. There's no term limits for congress, so the same people are there for like 50 fuckin years and they keep getting re-elected based on name recognition.
I also don't think things are as polarized as many people believe they are. Most people want the same or similar shit, but the media (including shows like this) only focus on the stuff we don't agree on. Abortion for example isn't a common topic at all among normal people, but among the politically active it's a non-stop discussion. For the stuff people agree on the government does nothing. Everybody believes that medical costs are too high, but the discussion is "medicare for all" or nothing. They refuse to focus on the part everybody agrees on, that costs are too high, because that would bring people together.
And even on topics like abortion, ~75% of the country believes one thing, but the GOP establishment doesn't agree with the portion of their base who does, and them + the media all pretend it's 50-50. I'm sure you didn't know this b/c you'll never hear it on a show like this, but Trump has said countless times to GOP hard-liners that he refuses to ban abortion, and that it's something the voters need to handle in their own states, so BOTH of our main candidates are *mostly* in agreement (not entirely) on the topic at the federal level, but the media would have you believe they have opposite stances.
And it's similar across the board IMO. Many complaints leftists progressives have were the same as the motivation for the original formation of MAGA on the conservative side (eg. housing affordability, medical affordability, the government is just a bunch of old men who get nothing done, term limits for congressmen, etc.), but nobody ever focuses on the agreements.
I think there's a lot more agreement than people believe. So while it's polarized, I think it's also not.
Sorry for the long post..
as someone that votes in America it is literally as simple as going to the polling station in your car which by being able to legally drive that car ....you can vote
It's a scam. They tell you there is more than 2 options, but there is never a chance in anyone winning but one of the big two. There are policies in place to keep it from being one vote for one person and actually having a popular vote. We tell felons they can't vote but let the president be a felon. Americans are too lazy to stand up and say enough is enough so we'll have to implode before anything changes.
Forcing uneducated people to vote is also an incredible detriment. It wouldn't accurately reflect citizens views and opinions as a whole. We have the right to vote, but also the right not to.
Its designed to keep our choices blurry and inconsequential
I work at a middle school in california as a custodian. I see plenty of student's on their phones during lunch, but an overwhelming majority are just playing and talking. We also, needless to say, don't allow phones in class, and if a student is caught, it gets held onto by the teacher or sent to the admin office for a repeat offender. That being said, the students need their phones. We send out notifications to the students about events and changes to events on campus. We even have posters with QR codes to scan so students can report bullying anonymously. The phones can provide safety for students, but there is a line here. We can not just go with an aboslute "no phone access" or "unlimited phone access." Have to find a middle ground.
Ok… good to know that school hasn’t changed that much since I graduated. We were allowed to use our phones on breaks or for legitimate reasons… just not in the middle of class and be distracted. Same for laptops ( it was a bit before tablets were common but the current rules apply to them as well). If you are using them for notes or translator/calculator it was fine but you had to have it out on the table so the teacher could walk by and check what you were doing. Any texts or calls and you got in trouble ( with in reason of course, some times if it was a parent or something it was okay, just not like random texting /calling friends).
Music helped so much in school for me, listening while taking tests, class work etc. let me focus so much more. I remember people getting their phones taken for being on them, but let them listen to music and stuff during breaks or while working if it helps
It reminds me of every argument where the newest tech is the problem but never the way school doesn't engage kids.
Just give each student a Nokia that can call, send messages, and play Snake. Problem solved.
We didn't have cell phones when I was in school and we had less issues than schools today. Never heard of anyone bringing and using a weapon when I was in school (knife, gun, etc). That started with the first internet generation. Even back in my grandparents' day, teens normally brought hunting rifles to school to have for hunting wild game after school. They stood them up by the door when they came in and picked them up at the end of school. Never had any issues. It's kids today that are so desensitized to bad behavior through media that their worst choices are so tame compared to what they see. Some ages do need to be banned from the internet entirely, like cigarettes and alcohol. In a lot of ways, the internet is more detrimental than cigarettes or alcohol. Children can't be trusted to use the internet responsibly any more than a 19 year old being trusted with alcohol. Some can, most can't.
When I went to (boarding) high school in the early-mid 2010s, we all had to put our phones in cubbies for study hall (about two hours), and first years had to leave them overnight. The cubby system was effective, parents were able to reach the on-duty staff person in case of emergency, and students could request their phones if there was an emergency. The mini-ban immensely helped me focus more during study hours, and this was back when the most addicting phone app was Candy Crush, not any social media. With the way phones are today, I'm all for schools limiting access. Heck, teachers could simply request that their students check out their phones for class if they're THAT dedicated to Kahoot.
HOWEVER, the magnetic lock bags sound stupid and unnecessary. There are magnets all over school to unlock them. Just have cubbies monitored by front office staff or something.
I haven't had any bots peddling CP but I have seen some saying they have videos of animals being killed...just sick, RUclips needs to do so much better.
I had that shit randomly replied to a comment I left a while ago. First time I'd seen it, and it was like a punch in the gut. It's truly disgusting.
I'm surprised Phil didn't mention the bots straight up using racial, homophobic, and other slurs on every comment too, sometimes on the same comment as the cp bots. It's made it so that I barely want to go to the comments of some channels I follow, since I like to talk to people and see what others are saying, but I don't want to see that vile crap.
I've seen both. I report, block, as useless as that is. Though I didn't realize the legalize the worst abuse bots were linking off-site illegal, until I saw Muta's video.
I was naïve. I thought it was trolls going for extremes. Between the ape video ring busted and Muta, I realize the trolls were illegal unhinged seeking same.
To think those types are given free reign on this platform.
Humans are already the minority on the internet . I'm deeply troubled both by overbearing censorship of dissenting opinions that stifles meaningful discourse, actual people and bots running wild promoting and profiting from egregious acts against vulnerable people and animals.
Google's ineptitude is starting to look like malicious support of the worst.
@@MrBevoRules
@@washuai I wondered if they actually had links, but I didn't want to try finding out. If there's a chance I could find actual CP or fall into some kind of open air FBI honey pot meant to catch idiots, I didn't want any part of it. I just report them for child abuse content.
As a Canadian, it stuns me that schools in America are going out of their way, and spending tonnes of money, to force bans of cell phones using tech and not figuring out ways to use tech to keep guns out of schools
Metal detectors my friend, our southern neighbour already have that part solved. But some people call it prison like and they cost thousands, but still common in schools with lots of fights.
@@kingofhearts3185 Metal detectors don't stop some guy barging in with an gun.
Smith & Wesson is a little late to the smartphone game, that’s why
@@kingofhearts3185metal detectors don't stop it from entering the school they only tell you if one if one being brought in. Most mass shootings start of entrance of school so it changes nothing
Stuns me even more that we are not even talking about School shootings as a problem and more of a way of life now. Dead children... too soon to talk about... BUT OMG THERE WATCH RUclips IN SCHOOL... WE NEED TO FIX THIS!?
Every platform has a bot problem. When my husband and I post something to our Twitter or our fb / insta we get at least 1-2 bot comments. Now on xbox about once a week I get a random message from a bot scammer. And it feels like these platforms aren't doing anything about it
I literally get three a day nearly on xbox just delete four yesterday
what can they do? they can only do so much without then punishing the Legit people. bot makers will always find ways around any roadblocks.
those little puzzles sites have us solve to log in? bot makers find ways around them. Verify the account? well bot account makers can get around those too. attach costs to things? even that doesn't stop em.
Omg thank you, Got back from abroad and hopped on my Xbox for the first time in 2 years and the amount of scamming bots was wild. Wiped them out and already have 3 more today😭
I only have 3 posts on twitter and the only comments are from bots
It feels like they aren't doing anything about it because you have confirmation bias. You get one message on x-box a week from a bot scammer, because the other 90% of the accounts were banned before they could reach you. Stopping it outright is a monumental - if not impossible - task. Obviously, there are platforms that fail utterly, like Elon's twitter, but that's a management failure on his part.
Admittedly I’m also not fully sold on the phone ban. I also would want to see more research put into what these kinds of bans do before implemented on a large scale. One of my concerns is accessibility. I’m a blind person who has used an iPad my whole life. I couldn’t read or write anything in school without it. My school never had a phone ban, and yet I regularly had teachers and substitutes try and take my accessibility aids on the grounds that I “could be texting”. I may sound like an exception but I’m really not, lots of kids use phones for listening to music to help with focus or to help keep them from getting overstimulated.
I also don’t entirely buy the whole “kid sitting alone at lunch because they are scrolling through there phone” line. Kids have always sat alone at lunch, social isolation and bullying have always run rampant in schools. When you’re being bullied and isolated your phone is a source of comfort, not the cause. It’s a tool for communication as well those loud lunchrooms are the same conversations that would be happening online just out loud. This doesn’t inherently make the interactions better in my opinion.
Phones are just a tool, what if we do a better job at addressing the root cause of bullying and isolation instead of taking away one of the tools abs calling it a job well done?
As an American something about banning an addictive substance to curb addiction rings alarms.
How's that working out with opioids?
I am a teacher (and a quite young one, too--I had a smartphone throughout my entire 6-12 education): we need to get cellphones out of the classroom, oh my gosh. Im not saying students cant bring them to school, but a large portion of my students are incapable of going an entire class period without being on them. I feel like so much of my job is policing behavior and phone usage rather than teaching a subject i am passionate about and making connections with my kids (i teach band, for reference). I wanted to be the teacher who let my kids just make their own decisions and all that, but they have shown me that theyre not capable of that level of freedom yet. I graduated from high school in 2019, and it really feels like the students i am now teaching are so different than the people i went to school with in terms of their self control regarding phone usage. It makes me worried for their futures if this continues. I love these kids and they are so smart and i want to see them flourish
It really is for their own good, same reason they can't (or shouldn't) drink and smoke yet.
I don't think Baldwin did anything wrong as an actor, pointing a gun at another person is usually a big deal, but if that's what the scene called for, and if that's what he was told to do, how is he, as an actor, supposed to know any better? (And it is safe to do that normally, but the person in charge of that failed to do her job). As a producer, however, Baldwin was in charge of the whole movie, if there were problems with safety, it would have been his job to address them before they got out of hand. People get hung up on little details, like how he claims he didn't pull the trigger (it was probably a revolver, so you'd only need to slip your thumb off the hammer to set it off), but even if he did, if the scene called for him to, he couldn't do his job as an actor without pulling it.
I have read that Baldwin insisted on using real guns instead of props or even non functional ones.
The fact that a real gun was used rather than a prop gun means that it requires additional safety precautions.
1 of which is treating every gun as if it was loaded and ensuring that the gun isn't loaded, regardless of whether or not someone else told you that it's not loaded.
That is taught by practically every safety range officer. Baldwin may have had an unprofessional and irresponsible armorer, but he became responsible the moment he grabbed the gun.
@@idkalan00 there is no such thing as a prop gun that shoots blanks, there's only reap guns that shoot blanks. That's a pretty common misconception. Alec Baldwin did nothing wrong as an actor. Where he failed was as a producer. It was Alec Baldwins responsibility to keep everyone safe, and he knew that the armorer hired was brand new. Hell, even the staff were shooting cans on set. That's where his fault lies, not because he was an actor acting with a gun (which is okay), but as a producer who ignored basic safety guidelines (like not having live rounds on set...).
Ya, that is my issue as well. He was a producer and that puts a ton of blame on him.
@@idkalan00 It gets better. He didn't have an "unprofessional" armorer. He had a non-union armorer, because the producers wanted to cut costs.
Alec Baldwin was the lead producer. And workers on the set had already begun to walk off before the incident because the place was EXTREMELY unsafe. Because of him. (but of course the judge declared that's "not relevant" for the trial. Almost as if the judge is bending over backwards to help Baldwin out)
More often than not, phones are a scapegoat. Kids who don’t want to pay attention simply won’t do so-with or without a phone.
The vaping coordinating and distracting others using phones are real problems, but a lot of phone use is honestly fine by me.
Idk man we had phones in school with games and RUclips and social media back in 2010 and it wasn't an issue. Every teacher had their own phone policy and typically the rule was if you're caught with it out while they are teaching they confiscate it until the end of class
Some teachers were more lax than others about using phones at the beginning or end of class, and some didn't care what you did as long as you got your assignments done and were doing well in the class
I'm only 31 but man the ways that schools have changed over the past 15 years makes me feel super old
Well, man, have you seen kids these days? In our day (34) did you ever think to loosen someone lug nuts on their car? Threaten ppl in public for views? Shame a kid in school for views?
No, yo would have gotten your ass kicked or worse for each one of those acts. Social media HAS made children more confident and less fearful, which is the worst thing for society. Now we have school shootings. We have large group robberies, more crime from adolescents. These idiots even think biden is a competent president. They only think that bcuz they still live with their parents, dont pay for shit and don’t have an income nor are looking for work.
You were not allowed to use your phone when I was in school, it was taken right away by most teachers, minus the PE teachers and extra circular. And we didn’t have social media like they do now so even when we had phone back then, we weren’t on them constantly.
Previous yondr pouch student here. My public school tried to implement it and they were found to be so easy to break that they really didn’t stop students any more and it ended up being a waste of a couple million dollars for the school district. Teachers kind of gave up and stop requiring it
Your administration chose to have no teeth with enforcing consequences. Yondr pouches can only go so far.
I kind of figured something like that would happen. I went to high school from 2009-2013 and had free reign off campus access and no cell phone regulations whatsoever, except for the classroom rules. That probably would’ve had dramatic consequences if yondr pouches had been implemented in my high school.
Ain't a faster thing just a lockbox, you don't get your phone back til the end of the day? Or an electronics ban, and any get taken until the end of class (my school did that).
@@chere100When I was in middle school, they had a rule for every student to put their phone in a basket until the end of the day. I always kept it hidden in my backpack. No teacher was going to take my phone without a fight. A cellphone is very important like if you need to call for emergency, and it may have important information on it like personal notes, addresses, ect.
I wouldnt want to risk it getting mixed up or stolen. That would be a nightmare.
I understand not wanting them to be on the phone during class, but just tell them to put it away if you see it out. If they do it again, you can bring further disciplinary action like detention.
And if they have it out at lunch time, that's none of your business. If they don't want to socialize with other people and would rather be on their phone, then let them. You can't force them to talk to people.
Yeah figured... But the classroom ban is a positive idea so it should be resolved some how. The students 100000000% should not have the phones DURING class if for no other reason than that neurodivergent people (like those with ADHD) exist in those spaces and struggle hard a lot of the times if there's people on devices and such. Even if its on silent, just the motions of the body using the device can trigger distraction (I would know, that exact thing got me more times than I can count)... Rest of the school is meh on bans for devices, I feel like if its not in the classroom and the students are 14+ years old, there's no issues.
If the kids are elementary aged... nah they shouldn't even HAVE the phones on them at all, should have them stored the entire day in their bags in the classroom or lockers or whatever. Elementary school age is some of the most important years for learning to handle social situations, developing social awareness, forming friendships, learning to communicate, etc. It's too crucial to childhood development to have interactions consistently and daily with other humans for me to say "sure, let the kids under 14 have their phones all the time outside of class too".
17:25 Know what would help boost voter conference?
Politicians not showing up on television every minute claiming that the free and fair election was rigged for years and years and years.
Politicians actually being honest about the outcome of elections would boost voter confidence .
Politicians actually doing their job and protecting us instead of criminalizing the American people and putting new burdens on the American people would boost voter confidence .
Do you know what doesn’t boost voter confidence?
Politicians constantly claiming fraud when there hasn’t been any.
Armed men or police officers all over the place makes people believe that there is a potential threat nearby.
Perception is everything. And to keep the public informed on actual matters of concern versus those that are completely fabricated…. All of these things would boost voter confidence. But Republicans are not interested in boosting voter confidence or making it easier for Americans citizens to vote.
.😂 sorry I thought you were talking about democrats the entire time. Ironic hahahaha. It applies more to your side so that last line was a hilarious twist.
I had a Nextel in late middle school and an early smart phone by high school graduation. Even then phones were a distraction. People used the "adults can't hear it" ring tone. There were no games or social media. We were just texting each other. It's so much worse now.
The restriction of phones is always so wild to me because on one hand we have "teens rely too much on phones" and then I remember my phone is now my wallet, my bus pass, and there's an app for every service I need access to.
Do we teach teens to keep up with technology they are about to need or do we wait until they're fresh adults and overwhelm them at a later date when they don't have a swath of adults to help them navigate it?
In what world was anyone suggesting we ban kids from using tech until their adults!
This 100%. Giving up your phone is a huge theft and private information security risk. My phone doubles as my wallet so I'd be giving up my license, medical card, emergency cash, my cards, etc.
do you NEED your wallet, bus pass and app for every service I need access to while on school?
The problem in this logic is the assumption the kid will not have access to their phone till they are adults, but the reality is they will have their phones up until the school day starts and as soon as the the school day ends. In America most schools only run for about 6-7 hours. The kids will have their phones the rest of the day, the weekends, seasonal breaks, and all summer, a few hours is not going to kill them and IF there is an emergency, like a school fire, then i'm sure students will be able to grab their phones and use them if needed. If their parents need to call them for any at home emergency reasons, they can just call the school and the school can make an announcement so the kid can have permission to grab their phone and make a call. Such emergencies are so rare though that they should not stand in the way of a school ban on phones.
On a personal note i do not have payment info on my phone or my license, that's what a debit card and actual license are for. IF i absolutely MUST pay for something with my phone i will do so with a separate debit card i have for exactly that reason because hackers do exist and can get into your phone. That and having too many eggs in one basket is always a bad idea.
It might surprise you but there is a middle ground between letting them have a phone 24/7 and not letting them have a phone until they are adults. School is 8 hours of a day, specifically 8 hours that their phone will only be necessary maybe a maximum of three times (if they keep their school ID on the phone). We can restrict phone access during school hours without crippling their ability to keep up with technology, with the added benefit of conditioning them to be accustomed to time away from their phone, which most adults are lacking.
When I was younger my mom didn't think I needed to have a phone at school. Then in I think 5th grade I had as asthma attack that almost killed me. My asthma is the coughing kind and all day I was told to just get some water. At the time I wasn't allowed to carry my inhaler, so since the nurse didn't feel like I needed it, I never got it. Fast forward end of the day, and now I'm in the after-school program. My coughing is getting worse and thankfully one of the after-school teachers call my mom, but only because I'm coughing so much i can't talk. By the time my mom got there my toes and fingers were curling up, my lips were turing blue, and I just wanted to go to sleep. My mom was able to keep me awake as she frantically drove to either my pediatrician or hospital - it's a a bit of a blur - and thankfully got it under control. When my mom asked why I didn't get my inhaler the school said they didn't think I needed it and by the time I might have, the nurse was gone. She left like an hour after lunch. After that I got a cell phone and could carry my inhaler on me. I've had massive allergy issues, stomach issues, other bs but if it wasn't vomiting or throwing up they basically told me to suck it up.
On the flip side I got my first smartphone in high school and that was much different than my little Nokia and then flip phone. Even before wireless earbuds I would still listen to music in class, though for me it was actually helpful, especially when we were let loose to work on our own. I had teachers that were really strict about it so you either respected it or got extra sneaky. There wasn't snap chat or tiktok though so that is a huge difference.
My son goes to a small school where phones aren't allowed so if I need to get him information I just call the front office. At a public school I would prefer him to have a phone. I've thought ahead and have parental controls on it so it's won't be as distractiong, but thats me. I don't want him to not have his phone. I think there should just be a no phones in the class, so maybe in a basket or something in the beginning of class, but the pouch thing worries me. Maybe that's from my personal experience but it's messy. Also it would be putting money towards a ban, but nothing else in education? That's wacky
The internet has been getting worse for a while. Moderation is trash across so many platforms except for when it comes to banning creators
Tanya Ortiz was clearly one of the popular kids who missed out on the "fun" high school experience of being excluded, not fitting in and basically just trying to endure the fucking hellscape that is high school. Lunch is free time to do what they want to do. Id have loved to have a smart phone for lunch and breaks then, shit even just being allowed to have my gameboy on school property would have been nice. They absolutely do not belong or should be used in classes, but maybe just maybe 'not engaging with their peers' is whats keeping them sane.
Hate tiktok, mobile games and twitter is a cesspool... but its still an escape when needed.
As someone who didn't have a phone through middle school, It didn't help me make friends. The entire time I was just completely isolated
as another youtuber put it: "I'm not afraid of Biden not lasting 'til 2028, I'm afraid that Trump would refuse to leave".
Yea! Exactly how Biden is refusing to step down, and letting someone else run.
@@BigBadDodge4x4 We need Biden in and then we need to clean up the Democratic party. Once he gets elected, we need to get to work making sure the only people in the house and senate agree that we need to make changes and not put corporations first.
@@BigBadDodge4x4 and who is this "someone else"? Because I hear people begging for him to step out of the race but I've yet to hear someone actually propose a candidate to replace him
@@zentec010 You realize he's been president for more than 3 years right?
@@merlumili There's nothing they can do at this point, Trump is going to win :)
Phil looking like he just enlisted haha
@@rotmage Phil: Imma about to storm the Normandy beaches for the second time
He looks like just got out of navy physical training
Hey I appreciate Mr B's having a very idealistic view of how to run the country. In a perfect world that's exactly how it would go.
But the reality is, you'll never get to the top of your party, or into that office without bowing down to your party. And even if you didn't manage to magically make it there somehow, when you're advisors from the left hand right give you their differing opinions, how do you decide which one is right
Agreed, it really put into perspective how young Mr beast actually is, because that tweet came off very very naive and childish, but he pretty much is still a child.
@@ATSaale That boy is a dreamer
The reality is if you start doing too many good things the CIA will pull a Kennedy on you
Look I don't have kids but I work in tech and someone sitting alone on their phone doesn't mean they're socially isolated--which they KNOW because they conveniently ignore all the GOOD social interaction that occurs with/through/because of technology and focus on the negative--which also happens in person.
Given how crucial phones and widely utilized phones have become, how necessary for such a WIDE array of uses, it's insane to me to think the solution is simply removing it from them entirely, not LEAST of which is, yeah, in a school shooting, kids should be able to have their fucking phones. My mom is a teacher, and when something scary happens, she often has to find out *from the kids* who communicate much faster and more efficiently than any official or school lines of communication. And half the time, her phone doesn't even work in the building--one time there *was* an incident and she had to text me at home for me to google to find out what was happening (it hadnt actually occurred in the school so the kids didn't know, only admins knew and they took their sweet time communicating what was going on).
i am so glad people are FINALLY speaking out against the UTTP and their CP bots. gives me hope in this world.
I am a teacher in 'rural' wa (pop. 35k). Freshman Geometry. Phones have been a HUGE problem in our classrooms. Some of our students become so obstinate when confronted with their phone usage in class that they welcome a suspension if they push back hard enough. Often enough, the parents of said students push back when we ask them for support from home. Fun being stuck in the middle.
So completely remove any ability to communicate. Cool story. If there's a disaster and kids d*e without being able to say goodbye to their parents/call for help, at least their next of kin will know who to blame.
Would asking (telling) them to leave all phones at the front of the class when they walk in be an option? I notice a lot of sport coaches I work with do this at practice (vball and cheer especially). But obviously being at practice is something they “want” to do. Going to class isn’t optional.
Make a set of cubbys kids put them in the one for their assigned seat to take role
Our high school adopted pretty strict phone rules and parents needed to sign off on it or the student couldn't stay in the school (except for students who need devices for medical monitoring). This past school year was the best teaching year. The kids were engaged and spent their distraction time doing silly stuff like trying to lasso each other or putting Doom on their calculator and trying to power it with potatoes. I loved every moment of it. Our scores even went up.
@@liamroarke7991 why the drama, they simply have to not use the phones inside the classroom. If they respect that no problem with "bans" and no dramas like you were writing about.
I'm gonna be honest, Phil, that hair cut took me off guard 🤣
A day late 😂
wait he had a haircut? i really dont look at details apparently.
The internet has been getting worse for a while. Moderation is trash across so many platforms except for when it comes to banning creators
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you are literally part of the problem
@@isaac_6530 haha wtf. They're moving on from the pfp's of butts now.
My goodness, the bots. ALL. THE. BOTS.
The RUclips auto delete feature will still delete completely normal comments
eventually i bet we will start seeing comments that are made by Chat bot programs flooding next to create more confusion on whats Legit and whats a Bot.
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@@AMPProf what did I just read, are you talking about self sealing stem bolts?
South Australia has a state wide ban on phone usage in school. In my school, if you're caught with your phone, your phone gets confiscated. Some schools have pouches, some schools have students leave their phone in their lockers. It's been working well. Other states in Australia are looking to do the same.
Yeah i was gonna say in QLD when I was a kid if you were caught with your phone it was Confiscated everyone knew it. It would go to the Office and when the bell rang at the end of the day you could go pick it up simple. Can't say anything about the pouches though as this was my experience 15 years ago lol
Sadly, America does have to worry about school shootings. Until the government does something about that, I'd want my kid to have a phone. We have multiple cases where that was the only way a student was able to record a goodbye for loved ones.
@@kyleellis1825school shootings are bad, we can agree on this, but let’s not use it as an excuse to avoid common sense regulations in schools. We can walk and chew gum at the same time
@@birdieshot96 Yeah, sounds like we're on different sides of that.
@@kyleellis1825 Fair enough. Can I ask what governmental action you would like to see that would make you feel safe enough? In terms of real solutions I just don’t see any on the horizon
With the phone ban, what happens to recording instances of abuse? A phone is one of if not the only way someone can gather first hand proof of abuse. If they arent allowed to use it how will they be able to record from one of these pouches?
Pen camera, $20-30 on amazon.
@@kingofhearts3185 That relies on the kid having the money to spend on it, and a credit card to pay for it.
@@JessicaKStark You can buy amazon cards almost anywhere, set up an account without issue. And that's assuming the parents don't have any knowledge or involvement in whatever is going on at school you need video evidence to stop. I ordered stuff from amazon when I was in HS plenty.
An outright ban on cellphones at school concerns me for several reason.
1) proof of bullying/abuse is often video footage _from cell phones,_ and we've had several clips over the years of teachers waaaaay overstepping their authority that would have never been believed without the footage,
2) in the age of school shootings, not having a phone to call 911 is fucking terrifying,
3) phones can often be used a helpful tool for disabilities/medical conditions, think blood sugar monitoring apps, timers for medications, the ability to quickly communicate for the deaf/hearing impaired (speech to text), etc. and
4) there built in calculators so that they don't have to shell out $100 (on average) for a device they'll likely never use again, there are many free graphing calculator apps for smartphones that greatly lower the fiscal barrier to entry for education (as many students will already have a smart device even if it's not the latest tech).
There are also many educational apps that students use to submit their homework now so if there's a problem it seems counter intuitive that they aren't allow to bring their phone out to show what's happening on their side.
I think a selective Parental Controls on the school routers for the desktops/public wifi and a required parental control lock (eg. App locks during school hours like AppBlock) on the attending student's devices would be the closest you could get without crippling genuinely beneficial device functions.
All of that existed before phones. The idea they're necessary is nuts. The classroom has graphing calculators to use, wtf... You can get an exception if your kid has diabetes, etc. Blocking apps won't work b/c parents will never agree to it.
The comments section is too young, you all think life started when phones did. In a school shooting the last thing kids need to be doing is calling 911, a bunch of teachers will have already done so. 20 phone calls is enough, 2000 isn't necessary.
@@KyleCorbeau Every one of these things can be addressed without involving cell phones at all.
@@matthewcaldwell8100 Fair however it has not been addressed or has been actively been fought against for any solutions
@@matthewcaldwell8100 -can be- being the keyword here. Most of these things are NOT being addressed. Sorry, when school shootings are as rampant as they are in the US, my kids gonna have a phone. Because the groups in charge of making things safer for children have completely and utterly failed in every regard.
@@MrsP-nh4xpCell phones aren’t the answer to every social ill. You’re just rationalizing.
When I was in school I had no friends, having the ability to use my phone to play snake or listen to an audiobook, just the limited activities you could do on a flip-phone in the 2000's was truly lifesaving. A lot of the kids are alone with their phones because of ostracization by peers that phone can save their life.
Same, I got bullied a TON in high school, so I didn't have anyone to sit with at lunch. I'd just show up, eat at the allergy table that nobody really sat at, and then go off to the library. And even when I was in there, i was reading a book whether physical or digital. Forced interaction can be worse than isolation, especially when the people you're being forced to interact with don't want you there.
While I do sympathies with you, you have to remember that you're in the minority. The point of the bans is to help the over whelming majority of students and as such shouldn't be based on fringe cases. Even then you can still go to the library and read if you need something to do.
the issue is that a smartphones with access to literal thousands of games and a dozen social media services is infinitely more distracting than say Tetris on a fliphone or music/videos on an iPod. there's a reason there was no crisis around phones/iPods in the mid-to-late 2000's
Its been almost a decade since my school went into lockdown because a teen boy grabbed his dads gun and went to campus to shoot the girl who had just dumped him. We went into lockdown with no information. Our teacher gave us permission to get online to check for any news, and to message families, as long as our phones were muted (cant have parents call and that ringing give away our presence). We were communicting in silence with neighbors just outside of the school and with each other, and that was how we found out who the shooter was and got updates as the police stopped him (a friend had ratted him out), as he engaged in a shootout with the police, and as he fell when a cop shot him.
Phone use is a problem, but I would hate for teens and children to be unable to communicate in an emergency. When a shooter is active on campus, students can tell people on the outside exactly where the shooter is, who it is, even what kind of weapon they have. This communication can save lives, on the off chance that any outside adults or any school staff take action.
More students commit suicide each year from bullying on social media then are killed by gun violence in schools
Yeah, the idea that kids are CALLING anyone during a shooting is ridiculous.
We had a hostage incident at my school that for various reasons, left a group of 15-20 of us locked in a room without a teacher but with an armed student. Another student who was in a bit of a blind spot was able to text a teacher to tell them what was happening, and the incident was resolved with only a few minor injuries.
I don’t even want to think about how that day would have gone if he hadn’t had his phone.
I saw a Washington post story about this, apparently advocacy groups have done studies and consulted with experts… and the situation is much better handled on average when not every student has a phone.
The conclusion was that you’re pretty much always better off without the distraction, instead focusing on your surroundings, and any advantage that could be gained is got through the teachers having access to their phones if they need them, or like Phil said, the option to cut open the bags.
I don’t know what to tell you kid too many of you were being very irresponsible with your phones instead of using it for actual smart things like schoolwork you’re using it to send naked pictures to each other to buy drugs off of Snapchat to look at g@re videos when you should be paying attention in school the fact of the matter is you don’t deserve it none of you little brat$ do
Besides who’s to say one of you little brain rotted kids doesn’t have their phone on silent ? and it does get you discovered, you don’t know anything and you’ll just say anything to keep your little phone in your hands
I don't agree with people saying that banning phones in school are going to damage student's relationship with technology. They already have a damaged relationship with technology. When I was in highschool the ball was just getting rolling on smart phones and for the most part it was generally understood that if you used it, you lose it. I carried the lesson that it's inappropriate to use a phone when you are attending lecture or being addressed. I know that's anecdotal, but I was shocked to find out how common phone use is in school. I think the bags can be used as a training tool for students. If they have a good responsible relationship with their phone, they can have it on them. If it's a repeat problem, the bag is a great solution. Then you can have the best of both worlds for these kids.
I think its a bit absurd to go after Baldwin for this. It was clearly the armorer's job to evaluate the safety of the firearm, and deferring to the "expert" is supposed to be a cardinal rule for novices. That's where you're supposed to get the cardinal rules from on an individual basis, listen to the experts and do what they say. An actor works with a wide variety of firearm-like objects, from non-firing replicas, to firearms modified to only operate with blanks, real firearms that have been disabled, and yes, real firearms. Its not the actor's job to keep track of all those outwardly identical variations, that's why there's an armorer at all!
The phone thing is difficult. In a world where school shootings are all too common, I want kids to have access to their phones when they need them. If I had the know-how to make it, I'd make pouches that can tell if phones are in them that the kids syncs up to a display board in the class, so the teacher sees a blinking light on the board if a phone gets removed. It makes it difficult for students to use phones in class, but in emergencies they can access their phone if they need to without worry of potentially alerting a shooter.
Right the phone thing is wild. Context I’m 22, grew up in the UK. And we weren’t allowed our phones at school. We could use them during break and lunch but during class, if we were caught with them (obviously outside of the teacher giving us permission or having a damn good reason to) our phone could be confiscated for the rest of the day or just the rest of the class after multiple warnings. What is crazy to me is Americans saying lock them away. Wild. Like Phil said there are some emergency situations that only really happen in the US, imagine you can’t call the police because it’s locked in a bag you need to have a special thing to unlock. Teachers and parents need to work on teaching children BALANCE, and I cannot emphasise that word enough.
Yeah its a real shame... the big issues is truly that balance is not being taught, nor apparently respect for what the teachers request of them. It should really not be this big of a deal, but the PARENTS will savage the school faculty for confiscating phones in a lot of places, so teachers are not only tired but brow-beaten into submission. Either they ignore the students increasingly paying lesser and lesser attention as they play with their phones, or they attempt to confiscate and end up with dramas and complaints and problems.
What should be happening is parents should be outright punishing their kids for not respect their teachers, and should be backing up faculty/school rules and consequences. There should be a unanimous sentiment from both sides to ensure phone use at school is not happening in classes, at the VERY least, and that the phones don't even come out and are put on silent/airplane mode until breaks or after school.
When I was in school not THAT long ago (36) it was literally a case of "if I see it out, it's going in my desk to be locked up until end of day. IF you can even find me to get it back before I leave for the day". Now its "oh geeze guys IDK if we can deal with this cellphone problem... we might have to just suck it up!" lolol The parents, especially of the elementary aged kids, need to REALLY get in there and make it a hard stop for the kids. "If I hear your phone has been a problem at school, I will lock out all apps except the emergency ones" (or lock the phone during school hours, or put them on a limited talk/text plan so they can't actually use the phone to do anything that isn't emergency or family related with it, etc.)
As a teacher I will say flat out that Yondr Pouches or anything like them are worthless. It literally just takes a strong enough strike on a desk or wall and the magnetic lock will open. Other options are cutting the pouches open or bringing a dummy phone or putting just the phone case in the pouch. These kids will find ways to get around these types of things. Best thing would honestly be for students to leave them at home but that's not going to happen either, especially not when parents are actively participating in the students being on their phones in school. I have had parents straight up call their child on their cell phone while they're in my class and its never for something important, its things like "what do you want for dinner?" and other things that could wait until the student was actually done with school. I don't know what a real solution to this problem is, but, from being on the ground and in the trenches of this, those silly phone "pockets/pouches/jail/cage" whatever you want to call them are worthless. The one thing that our school found that made students actually stay off their phones was that when we confiscated a phone we turned it in to the vice principal and then that phone wasn't returned to anyone but the parent who had to come to the school to pick it up in person. Obviously this led to plenty of angry parents but thankfully our principal and vice-principal have steel spines backing us up and never backing down to those overly aggressive types.
If you expect absolute 0 phones with the yonder bags then yeah, they're useless, but I'd have to imagine it drastically cuts down on incidents. SOME kids will break them open between classes and what-not, but I imagine there's a lot of kids who wouldn't.
@@MrSlowestD16 Ye, I imagine MOST kids would not break them open and the few that actually do probably needs more looking into because there seem to be other behavioral problems going on there.
@@henta7608you don't know kids if you assume most won't follow suit when one kid figures out a way around something
Like even if they don't want to really use their phones they'll find a way around those bags just to spite an authority figure
Libraries are moderated. The internet phone usage is not the issue here. The content on the internet being allowed is the issue. What do we allow in a Library where minors can access those materials? Librarians have moderated data successfully for eons. Go look at their systems for content approval and distribution without censorship.
In the age of school shootings, you are crazy if you think my kid can't have their phone. I've also informed my child that using their phone during class is strickly forbidden and could result in no electronics at home for several days.
This seems more of a parenting issue than a school issue.
On the topic of cell phone bans in schools... I've had this conversation with my cousin who just graduated high school. She said that her fear is that with the issue of school shootings if her phone was out of reach or locked up in some bag thing she wouldn't be able to tell her parents that she was okay or that she loved them. She is terrified of being in a school shooting. Though she does understand that having phones in classrooms are a huge distraction. She said that there should be a middle ground somewhere so that kids/teens can still have their phones but they aren't using them as a distraction during lessons. She also wanted me to say that parenting is a huge factor in this. Which I agree on especially after talking with my friends with kids. Those that have strict screen time and phone use rules seemed to have less emails from teachers about their kids being on their phones when they shouldn't be. I don't know it is a complicated situation.
"When I visit campuses during lunchtime, my heart breaks to see students sitting alone, isolated on their phones instead of engaging and learning with their peers"
wtf. I was somewhat bullied in school and never had anyone to sit with for lunches in general. all of my friends were at other campuses, and because I was super into wanting to get in the sciences and stuff, I was a geek and isolated by my peers.
Removing cell phones isn't going to change that shit. It's just going to take away a form of escape for some kids. I often ended up skipping my lunch entirely during high school and spent it in the library where I could just read instead of worrying about what some of the other kids wanted from me. This makes me so angry, because this feels like a means to kick the ball down the hall instead of doing something to make kids want to engage properly.
Also… I noticed recently that the ones who complain the loudest about this are also always on their phones instead of talking to friends.
I mean just let people do what the heck they want , as long as it isn’t hurting anyone what is the big issue here? I get saying no you can’t be on your phone in class, but why can’t people be on their phones in their free time?
Yeah this part. As someone who grew up with adhd especially, if a kid doesn't find the work engaging they won't do it. Phone or no phone. They'll just sleep, daydream, do shit on whatever school issued ipad or chromebook they're given, draw, read, ect.
I did the same thing you did. I'd skip lunch and sit in the library and catch up on shows until the bell rings. Because of gun violence ramping up in this country i do not feel comfortable with kids not having access to their phones for whatever reasons. "Kids shouldn't be calling their parents during lockdown" texting exists. If I was in danger of getting shot I would at least like to tell my mom i love her. "They can contact the school' yes because the school is the arbiter of quality when it comes to that shit. Absolutely not.
Mr. Beast being wanting to be a centrist president is really funny to me, because his goals are functionally impossible. There's no real middle ground, every policy will favour one side more then the other. You said it best yourself with abortion access but there's so many other rights and beliefs that would need to be weighed in on that would inevitably push people to oppose Jimmy's presidency. The quote "you can't have your cake and eat it too" applies here. Both political sides oppose eachother so drastically that there's no true chance of unity for every american citizen.
Sadly, I feel the same way. I would love for there to be middle ground policies, but that's just not the current state of the political parties and policies that are at stake currently in the country. Whenever I hear one of my friends say something like, "I'm a centrist" or "I'd just want a compromise", it signals to me that they are naïve on the actual functioning of politics in this country. Not to mention that many politicians don't argue in good faith. They just say what their base wants to hear, even if it doesn't align with their actual opinions. Trying to find compromise with these people is just setting yourself up for being taken advantage of by political grifters from both sides.
Could that change over time? Sure, but not just by electing a single president. It would take many years and a drastic culture change from many people.
There are compromises to be had, but the problem with those it they lose you all votes. A good compromise either leaves everyone happy, or everyone upset. For example: we had a compromise on abortion before. It was highly restricted, but allowed. The no abortion people were not happy, and the no limits on abortion people were not happy.
I dont think it would work, but if it was after a youtube carrier it might. it is still a while until he could and at that point i think he could win if he did pick a side. (and accept you'll lose some amount of support)
There absolutely is middle ground. I firmly believe if Biden (or any left leaning party here in europe) said that "We acknowledge that some migrants commit crimes and its an issue" instead of "Nothing like immigrant crime exists" far right would not be a thing. You dont have to appease everyone but acknowledgement of issues other side is pointing out is massive for people. There is massive untapped demographic of voters that are pushed to right or left.
@@cmike123 That wasn't a compormise, that was a placatting. The problem with idea of "compromise between left and right" is taht they fundmentally want different things. This isn't a problem of "he wants all the sugar, and they want no sugar s o we add some sugar".
One side wants Freedom from Opressive systems and the other side wants the freedom to be an oppressive system.
A comprimise happens when sides have resonable and rational objectives that don't contradict eachother.
youtube needs a new option for reports just called "bot" or something
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I am very against the phone bans. I worry over the active shooter situations. WHY would I trust the school offices to be able to alert on an active shooter when I cannot even rely on them to properly make sure active shooters do not get in, in the first place?
And just out of hand teachers that need to be caught on camera too. Kids words aren't taken as seriously as the adults, they need extra proof
So I work with kids. A phone ban looks good on paper...except for the tiny little fact it means ALL PHONES get taken away. I can't tell you how many parents feel it's their right to reach their kids. They don't care if the kid shouldn't be on their phone, they NEED to reach their child to find out what the kid wants for dinner, or what time they will be out of class. And despite my boss giving their work number so that way the parent can get the answers without their kid getting in trouble, the parents would rather contact the kid because "it's just more convenient". In fact my boss has gone from a meeting with the principal about kids using their phone during after school (school rules still apply) hours, to a meet with a parent upset they can't just call their kid.
Wow!! Do these parents not talk to their children before/after school or during weekends to ask "Hey, I'm planning meals for the week. What would you like for dinner, on this night?" 🤦♀
How did we survive before the 2000's? Amazing my parents didnt die of worry not contacting me for 8 hrs.
@@FlowerMama23the idea of being asked what I want for dinner as a kid outside of special occasions is hilarious to me.
@@FlowerMama23 I work in a fairly suburb area so a lot of the parents are either middle management or work two jobs. Guess who talks to their kids before hand and who feels it's their god-given right to talk to their kid whenever they want to
Entitled parents. It’s disgusting.
Schools cannot afford to pay teachers properly or keep the schools supplied, but, by God, they can afford Phone bags.
the phones in school is a sore subject for me :D my daughter is diabetic and she need her phone on her because it shares her blood sugar levels with me and her mom, and we chat with her when she needs to administer insulin for highs or eat something for lows. 'till now most schools we were at have been ok with her keeping it, as long as it's used only for that. and I'd love to think she only uses it just for that while she's there, but I know my kid and I'm sure she scrolls a bit (especially after yesterday she tried logging in crunchyroll while at school :D :D ) but yeah I don;t want her on her phone, but at the same time I need it on her and need to have some communication with her, going through calling administration to find her and tell her if she needs insulin or food takes way too long... been there done that
My biggest worry about a cell phone ban is a situation like Uvalde in which the children aren’t able to contact their parents because their phone are locked up.
"There might be a shooting" is not a sufficient reason not to ban cell phones. It's a reason to have better gun regulation.
@@matthewcaldwell8100yes, but gun regulations in the US won’t happen unless another black panther demonstration happens lol
@@matthewcaldwell8100 Insert any rare tragedy then, bad earthquake, bad fire etc. He has a point. You're too focused on the gun agenda. You can't regulate illegally gotten firearms bud, which is the bulk of what is used for murders.
@@matthewcaldwell8100why not? “Not a sufficient reason” is not a sufficient argument 😉
@@matthewcaldwell8100 the issue isn't even the phones per se it's the internet - would make more sense to place restrictions on that instead. They should aIways have access to their phones in case of _any_ emergncy.
In a world where things like the Uvalde and Parkland incidents happen, banning/confiscating phones in the classroom should be the furthest thing from these people's minds. I get it especially when the teachers are trying to teach, but there has to be another solution.
There is, let kids keep their phones. If an individual decides to abuse the privilege take their phone until the end of the day/class. That's how it worked at my school. They don't need to be nazis about it with everyone. Kids looking at a text during a break in the teacher talking, or listening to music while they have solo work to do isn't harming anyone. The teachers realized this and were cool with us doing it. As long as we're getting our work done who cares? People didn't abuse it by playing games or something ridiculous while the teacher was talking. If they did then they'd be taken of course. But that was pretty much unheard of. If you're cool with people and give some leeway they're cool with you back.
Sucks that other schools weren't more like ours. We don't need to make places of school and work completely unpleasant to be at and so controlled. But it feels like some people think that way, like giving any leeway is going to somehow compromise their superiority. In fact the opposite is true, when people aren't being pushed all the time they're better workers.
Like the types of bosses who won't let people just look at their phone ever on shift, or ones that complain that if you've done your job you should go clean something instead of sitting down for a minute and giving your feet/back a break. Cleaning wasn't what I was hired for. If I got my work done and have 10 minutes of nothing coming in then leave me tf alone. The only bosses I worked for after I hit 20 are people who were chill, I couldn't handle anything else.
When people work for me, they can go smoke a joint if they want as long as it doesn't affect their performance. Have never had a problem with anyone doing it so far, and everyone appreciates me not breathing down their backs and letting them relax a bit. You get your work done, I couldn't care less what you do with the rest of the time. A happy employee is a good employee. A happy employee is also someone who's not going to steal sht on their way out from angrily quitting lol. Which happened to the douche that wanted to me clean over me having a 10 minute gap in my workload. At least 2 guys I know of ended up stealing on their way out, simply because they hated the boss. I didn't, but I probably should have cause that guy was a creepy POS to the women there, on top of just being a general cnt to everyone.
Whoops this turned into a rant my bad lol
As much as the phone issue with kids at school, it's hard to blame the pushback because
1. The parents/child bought the phone with their money, so it feels (NOT extreme thought, have to make that clear) like you're taking their autonomy
2. Most kids already know how horrible the US education system is, and some just hate the subject their forced to learn
3. It helps feeling in touch with family and friends, from the extreme cases... to just someone to talk to during class
-NOW, at the same time, I/many others see why they take away said phones away. Hell, the result's speaks on its own.
Maybe teach kids to learn boundaries, and teach them to be responsible... but that won't be possible due to the education system in the US.
I'm too old for the cell phone use but in college I often used my laptop to find better explanations than the 56th lecture about my professor's PhD paper topic. I can imagine some kids looking for ...for Dummies type sites, especially math.
A little late to this convo but I wanted to chime in anyway. I'm a substitute teacher working primarily at the high school level in a school of ~2000 students. As a sub I get to see a variety of classrooms and classroom management systems. Phones, and their usage is 100% a problem. But simple things like phone caddies or bins do so much for student productivity. Most of the classrooms that enforce a strict "turn your phone in at the start of class" policy are significantly more active and productive. So much so that many of the classes that have a rule like this will have the students turn in their phones at the start of class when I'm there even if the teacher didn’t leave behind any notes telling me they are supposed to do so. You don't NEED magnetic locking bags, just have the kids turn them in to an easily accessible caddie or bin and consider giving it back to them early if they complete their work for the day. And perhaps most importantly, you need all the teachers willing to be on the same page and an administration that will back them up when they try to enforce a rule that a student doesn’t like. The issue with phone policies now is that in some classrooms teachers just turn a blind eye to it or actively encourage the use of phones which leads to those students going to other classes and expecting the same freedom. You need consistent enforcement across the school for this to be as successful as it can be. I have talked to several of the faculty at the schools I work with, some are in agreement with me, but some also think it won't solve the problem or think that the amount of effort required from them to implement it will hinder their ability to run the classroom. While I generally disagree with the latter sentiment, I do agree that as many kids (re: all of them in my district) have a district issued Chromebook these days, it is likely that instead of browsing or chatting on phones they will just use their Chromebooks... but there are systems like district firewalls and something like GoGuardian can easily be put in place for teachers to manage internet use during class if they really need to.
Tldr: Phones are, in fact, a problem. There are easy solutions, and based on my own anectdotal experience, these solutions do, in fact, work as long as all the faculty is on the same page.
My wife went to university in Finland for education, and told me they didn't enforce cell phones or kids not paying attention in general, unless it was disrupting other students. The attitude was that if they're not engaged, that's the student's loss and their grades will suffer. Unfortunately, the US always blames the teacher and the entire school when kids aren't are grade level. Teachers have to pay for supplies, but schools will spend money on cell phone pouches? This is so screwed up.
That's how it was in my college, if you're not paying attention and you're not disruptive they didn't care
You can't hold the requirements for early public education to the same standards as universities and colleges.
1) You're choosing to pay for and go to college, and
2) you should be old enough to know better.
You shouldn't expect kids in elementary and high school levels to make the right decision when choosing between entertainment and education.
That is also the usual attitude in American universities 😂
I'm not hip to the rules and legalities these days, but teachers get reprimanded for students getting bad grades. You want to see a teacher with an overall success rate that says they are good at what they do. But of course one failure skews the data for all successes.
Which doesn't make sense to me because I had a math teacher with a high failure rate and he still continues to teach today.
@@vinhhuynh4695 She was studying education in university and did student teaching in elementary school and it was the same across the board regardless of age and grade level.
Regarding the phone ban I'm completely against it. I grew up with phones in high school and if the teacher saw you using your phone(other than just listening to music while doing your work) you get a warning if you get caught again they take it for the remainder of the class. Instead of banning phones because kids are "sitting alone, isolated on their phones instead of engaging and learning with their peers" maybe investigate why they prefer their phone over other kids? Maybe the other kids don't want to be their friend, maybe they get bullied, maybe they have a tough time making friends, etc. It's not automatically the phones fault and hell it might make their day better than sitting alone doing nothing at all
A-GREE!
When I was in high school a couple of my teachers made us hand in our phones at the beginning of each class and we wouldn’t get them back until class was over, so I bought a burner that I could hand in while keeping my real phone on me at all times.
Just out of high school. Phones are more useful than school and I went to one of the top 100 school in the country. I used it to understand instead of memorize information, I used it for music to focus because I had a hard time focusing in a classroom. I used it to check in on my grandma who at one stage had overdosed on meds by accident and needed to make sure she was ok every day. I needed my phone to call my best friend when I had a panic attack and was hiding in the bathroom.
Taking away phones is just making it harder again on kids who don’t fit the cookie cutter mold we’re shoved into when we’re forced through school.
The people who think this is a good idea are the same people that think clear backpacks are gonna solve gun violence…
Good thing you weren't born in the 70s, doesn't sound like you'd make it lol
I am really curious if you have any ideas that would allow the use of a phone but not give unlimited access to one in school. I agree that kids should have access to their devices and you made some really great points to back that up. But I also feel that some restrictions should be in place to encourage more participation in the social aspect of school. Some of the best times I had in school was the times I spent actively hanging out and socializing with friends. Heartbreaking to hear everyone is behind their screens at times anytime they can, especially at meal times and in the hallways.
@@kltil5082maybe, a lot of the kids from the 70s didn't make it.
So about the phones in schools thing; I don't have kids and I was in school pre smartphone era, so I don't have a frame of reference for how bad schools may have gotten in respect to cell phone usage, but I can say with certainty that whatever harm cell phones are causing is far less than bullying and guns are. Aside from that, every major service provider has very customizable parental control options that the parents aren't using or aren't using properly. Could some kids get around them? Probably, but likely only the same amount of kids that are getting around the other restrictions, if that many. This isn't a failure of children, this is a failure of parenting.
I think the idea of removing access to the phone via lock bags it's ridiculous. Then we will just go back to old school bowling you can't tell me before we had cell phones. People didn't get bullied and there wasn't fights. No, it's just more organized now because they have the ability to coordinate. Honestly, I think it's being blown out of proportion. I like the idea of putting them in a pouch at the beginning of class. I had to do that when I was in the high school. Granted phones were just becoming widespread then
On the youtube comment thing. As someone who basically lives in the comments I have thought for a long time youtube needs to make a community moderation feature where a creator can select a few accounts to help moderate comments. But I think youtube would need a messaging service, again, for this to work that way the creator can send the viewer/user a message to tell them they want them to moderate for them.
On another subject youtube comments are probably the best platform compared to other sites. I mean there are major flaws but I see far less bots here than other places or compared to the "everything" app where to find user replies you have to dig through ads and "verified" accounts.
my high school actually had a way to control this. I grew up in high school 2008-2012 so I was around that time the iPod touch became super popular. The school had its own service you connected to that and certain websites and connections were blocked. So we couldn’t access sites like Facebook or other social medias. Now this was also right around when smart phones were still somewhat new so they didn’t have a way to block data connection but it was still better than nothing.
I love how youtube does nothing all the time about everything
Sonyou want pdople work harder.. Oh my god man ughhh .
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@@AMPProf what?
And yet they also do everything about nothing, its bizarre. I had a vid taken down because some black kid said the n word in a game I was in. Meanwhile black people have vids up everywhere of they themselves directly saying it lol, it makes no sense.
@@kltil5082 yep I get random videos deleted for no clear reason, really fun stuff.
Even the smaller creators I follow have been having this problem w bots, typically as a reply to a popular comment. You can report every one, be t the EXACT SAME ACCOUNTS pop up on the next video. Given that the bot accounts themselves aren't even being shut down, I imagine RUclips isn't too bothered by it. Given how gross some of these comments are, it almost seems like yt is just ignoring the matter.
This. I've reported so many of them that have actual hate speech on their account and spam it all over. Nothing. You just see them repeating everything weeks later on other videos. It's so frustrating.
As far as voters go. I'm in NC TWICE when I went to vote, I was already checked off in the ledger as I had voted. 1st time it was my father since we have almost the same name. Just middle is different but same initial 2nd my father had not voted yet so no clue why I was marked off. But you just walk in and give a name with no ID if that name is on the list you vote as that person. I need to show ID to buy liquor, to fly, to enter some federal buildings, to do a lot of things, but vote, naa, we trust you are who you say you are. Some use the excuse some people can't get an ID cause they don't drive or the license office is too far away to get a non driving ID, something EVERY STATE has. Set up mobile ID busses, kiosks to go to these neighborhoods so people who can't drive or get to a license office has easy access. It seems easier to use this problem to get more votes then to fix it. One side says they are allowing illegals to vote with no id's so vote for us to stop that. The other is saying they are trying to stop you from voting by forcing you to have an ID that you just can't arrange cause of your situation. So vote for us. How about fix a damn problem for once instead of using it for votes.
Multiple-site (full time) public school California teacher here. I work specifically in elementary schools, so other than when the students are with me for music, most of my students are just with one classroom teacher.
Some of the classroom teachers I worked with had a small box for the phones to be collected in at the beginning of the day and given away at the end. Some of the kids even forget to get them at the end.
There is no need for special lock boxes or anything-they are just in a plain plastic bin. Honestly, in middle school and high school, school could install some sort of small locker system in the office or a similar space for students so a staff member can verify their phone is checked in if necessary.
At most of my schools, though, students do not check in phones at are on them pretty constantly any chance they get. A lot of popular teaching strategy has either become keeping them so busy, engaged, and constantly playing learning games so they don’t get the chance to get distracted OR meeting them where they’re at and constantly having them on chromebooks.
You realize that elementary schools are a completely different ball game to high schools right? No high school kid is forgetting their phone at the end of the day and they're nowhere near as easy to distract lol
@@kltil5082 I realize that high schools are different. I have worked with high schoolers. I was just speaking from my experience because the potential law was not specific to high school.
I could see a federal voting ID, as long as it is tax funded and access to it is provided (time to get it is legally protected so you can take off of work to get it, transportation is either provided or gov vehicles bring the process to the people). BUT I do also know it'd be used to create the biggest pool of gov controlled facial recognition data ever.
As someone from Europe(Czechia), I was actually quite surprised you don't have anything like that already.
@@jiri-korinek Our right wing does its best to make voting as difficult as possible. The UK isn't much better in the way it tailors the acceptable IDs for voting to be skewed towards the elderly.
"biggest pool of gov controlled facial recognition data ever"
what do you think driver licenses are?
So Crunchy Roll just nuked their entire comment section and Reviews, completely removing any form of community on their platform. If RUclips follows suit over this I'll be pissed.
Why? Comments are useless.
They already have, RUclips turns off comments for certain videos, graphic videos, news stories, political debates. Take the presidential debate for example, it’s difficult to find a video with comments on. We can not allow that to happen, bad things happen when people stop discussing.
One of my favourite things to do on Crunchy Roll was to check the comments after watching an episode. Reviews also helped me gauge whether a show was worth watching. I hope RUclips doesn't follow suit.
Crunchy roll comments were mostly a cesspool, but I will miss being able to scroll down and see quickly if an episode is completely recap or if there is anything new mixed in.
I was wondering where the comments section went on Crunchy Roll. Ugh now I’m just sad. Do you know if they will bring it back at some point or is it permanent?
With the bots, you can block out some keywords to attempt to block them. But they will just use different sentences, and you risk blocking legitimate comments. RUclips needs to just actively block links from anyone other than the creator
I think it's the effort that counts here and the communities feel like the RUclipsr aren't trying to remove these comments.
I personally think if you're so successful that you can make money speaking your mind that you should put everything you can into making the platform that made you better.
I'd lose sleep removing these comments.
@VemoNotRated it isn't ideal, but any of the really well off creators can certainly hire moderators for when its really bad. But you're still talking about a full time job across multiple videos, it's not tenable really. It needs to fall more on RUclips
I'm from the UK, and when I went to school the policy was no phones at all on school campus as soon as the first bell rings. The only exception was for the final 2 years of school who had free periods who could use their phones then. This policy was then enforced by the teachers. However, I understand that schools in America are chaotic and teachers already have a tough enough time dealing with existing stuff, let alone dealing with policing phone use.
However, and I don't mean to bring this up as a way to just hit American, but it's an important point. Taking away all kids phones and banning them from schools, is stupid. Not only because kids might need it getting to and from school, but also in cases of emergencies, such as, if their school has an active shooter inside......