How a Physical Build Nahobino Perform? | Shin Megami Tensei V
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Magic is easier early game, phys is better when you find Murakumo, simple as that in my opinion (though wrath tempest is pretty good but Murakumo is something else)
having played the game as a pure physical build....I can't say I've ever struggle, you get sakanagi pretty early and the damage is suprisingly good, I was still using it versus Odin cuz I didn't find Murakumo yet, with a 7 level difference and still slaughtered him like cattle lol.
You nailed it! Physical is almost necessary (or at least strength based almighty) vs. demi fiend. Rest of the game is magic. Especially early to mid.
@@ejh7698 Murakumo does so much damage, and at almighty master 9, it costs 29 MP, so with the 750 mp I had fighting him, I have enough to Murakumo around 28 times, and Magatsuhi wellspring gives you an extra use every few turns, vs using the more expensive pierce skills that do less damage. Murakumo does it all with some of the highest base damage in the game while criting. Also fun fact, loup garrou's elec skill is the highest base damage skill in the game, even stronger than death flies, so at absolute max magic, he would be one of the hardest hitting mages, tho that requires massive grinding from a low base magic
@@ttarzzxz3711 oh wow, I did not know that about Loup. Thanks for the tip!
@@ttarzzxz3711 I (unfortunately) went all magic on my first play through. I cruised through the game until Shiva and demi fiend. DF took me 10+ attempts at 30-40 mins a piece. Plus hours of grinding leveling up different demons, just to get a party that was capable of barely beating him. Well “cruised” through is an exaggeration.
Phys feels better because you don't end up having to decide what element to commit to with your masteries. Phys mastery, done. Yes, it costs more, which is the tradeoff. But draco skills give you the elemental advantage and a few of the almighty skills scale with Phys. magic is better early, but phys comes online midgame. hell, aramasa helps a ton early because that's 8 chances to crit and give yourself an extra turn.
You know the draco skills don't scale of physical mastery, and strength based almighty skills are affected by almighty mastery right? The dracostrikes scale of the element mastery their skill is. I've done magic and phys with no Ng+, magic was so much easier early game, lost to hydra once to rng but I never wiped to a single boss beside that with a magic build while the strength build was actually never stellar. Aramasa and wrath tempest are decent, but they are instantly invalidated in the last area when you find Murakumo and that's almighty. Strength does scale better
murakumo just does so much damage for relatively little MP even with buffs that I dont even feel the need to aim for weaknessess with Nahobino. Not to mention that dismiss allies cheese that rolls most bosses lol
Ah yes, the Quadruple buffed Murakumo that two-turned Shiva lol.
But Critical Aura stack with Charge?
@@Fermin-hw5pd I don't think it stacks, tried it with crit aura, then donum gladi, murakumo didn't crit
@@blastmole299 I guess if the Charge and the crit icon don't appear at once we can say it doesn't stack
@@inplane9970 pretty bad strat tbh
Almighty-Physical Hybrid is the best alllrounder setup instead of pure physical.
Murakumo
Divine arrowfall (optional)
Freikugel (optional)
Gaea rage
Charge
High almighty pleroma
Almighty pleroma (optional)
High Phys pleroma
Phys pleroma (optional)
Murderous glee
Critical zealot (optional)
I though charge was nerfed in 5, shouldn't you use Impailer's Impact instead?
@@vallum12100 Impaler's animus you mean? I find charge to be better than pierce. You got pierce already from e.g. Freikugel
Fr though, Murakumo alone just shreads through bosses like tissue paper. No magical damage even comes close to the Giga Drill Breaker.
the drill really does pierce Heaven
I also compared it to a Gargantua Punisher. So a mix of both.
I've had much more luck with physical than magic. I went for a tank build with the Kanabea Veil and fierce roar with Belphegor's essence, and the mid game has been cake because of it.
I know a lot of people requested a defense stat and stuff to do tank builds but... is it fun? I've always felt like it's not
@@vanilla8956 The problem with a tank build is that you have to pivot to it mid-game. Early game because of how awful the resistances of early demons are it's completely unviable. Best case scenario, you get an essence of something like Shiisa with taunt, which is pretty mediocre.
But mid-game, when you get an essence of someone like Belphegor or Ganesha with Fierce Roar, you can laugh as the enemy blows their turn icons on doing chip damage to Nahobino with phyiscal attacks, or loses their icons with a null'd attack, while your demons just wipe the floor with them.
It gets real stupid once Amanozako's essence with Repel/Drain fire/ice come around. You become untouchable with exception to the bosses with pierce effects on their elements.
@@remlapwastaken8857 I get that, but I just don't see that as fun from a role playing perspective. Like I keep black frosts essence on myself all the time, despite the Light weakness because I love vampires and dark skills and it feels fitting for me to have to play scared of Hama skills. I know there's plenty of ways I could do better and reflect everything but it's just not that fun
@@remlapwastaken8857 Being a nigh unkillable pain in the butt is always a pleasure to be in my opinion, totally agree with the damage thing; just let the crew handle that
The Japanese voices are so cool! I can't wait to use them with my second playthrough
i got the nahobino/demi fiend strength build that i killed the demi fiend twice for
i am dead inside now
Unfortunately, Magic builds don't do anything that you couldn't already do with another demon. On the other hand, STR builds have insane burst damage with +crit damage attacks, especially with Murakumo (check out the 2 turn Shiva kill on hard video). VIT Support builds give you a TANKY support to buff/debuff/summon and easily exploits the already broken taunt/fierce roar status by combining it with your ability to nullify/repel/absorb boss attacks through essence fusion.
2 turn shiva has been done with Magic too, btw
I'm told Charge isn't worth it anymore outside of saving MP as the multiplier is 1.5x instead of 2.5x that other games had.
i mean, you got a bloody laser sword
I was going pure physical in preparation for the demi fiend moves
What do your stats look like?
how to build physical nahobino?
Heat Wave -> Deathbound -> Hades Blast -> Yabusame Shot
Lunge I guess? -> Sakanagi -> Murakumo
rest of the slots are just used in strong physical passive, ez
Physical is just too much fun to me to ever make a magic build
Can anyone help me? I can't find the miracles to put all the physical attacks at level 9. Can anyone tell me where to get them? Defeat all the abscesses.
how did you get everything to max?
Nice demifiend demon you fused there
Ooo. I'm just at the beginning, but our protagonist gets some cool looking attacks.
Looks like you're enjoying the game, it's super fun and I hope you enjoy it
@@ttarzzxz3711 , thanks.
Would like to see a figment slash build, seeing that (in terms of raw datamined power) it's one of the strongest in the game. Maybe a figment slash + dragon eye + beast eye or critical aura?
I wish I had a Nintendo switch hope that smt v someday comes to PlayStation
I'm actually split phys/magi mainly because of almighty and debuff skills
What essense has all those resistances his protaganist has? I have finished the game once and have 95% compendium, but I don't see anything giving full protection without taking up a skill slot or two. Thanks.
Demifiend
Demi-Fiend's Essence. It's also where Gaea Rage and Chaotic Will come from.
How did you get lol 99 stats?
I'm a newby. I'm just beated the 3rd boss. How, do you max all your affinities and resistances to +9... I have only been able to get them to +2.... But this guy has them All!!! How?
The answer is 'easily'.
Do u play this on emulator? It looks buttery smooth
Probably emulator, there aren't framedrops when using Luster Candy
I honestly felt like a magic build works better in certain situations. Specially with almighty. Also Gaea rage? Where do you get that?
Demi-Fiend essence. You get it by beating him.
@@thestealer63214 that's gonna take forever for me Imao.
this vid isn't very accurate because late game you wouldn't be using skills like aramasa and wrath tempest when much better alternatives exist
The best almighty skill is physical based though
Almighty scales with physical though
Played 5 using a magic build
Then played 3 and decided to go full physical
Beating bosses in 4 hits is really fun next time im playing 5 im going full physical
Which essence did you use to have all those resistances to everything
Demi fiend. Dlc boss
All of the sig moves look crazy. New "real" smt fan here. Came from persona 5 royal and I really like this game too for different reasons. Mainly the focus on combat and building demons(persona has that but also focuses on both main plot as well as the daily life elements). Prefer persona because of that though.
Why does it have more FPS than when I play it?
I'm doing magic build just like I did with smt 4 and 3
What essance gives nahobino nullification to everything?
The Demi-Fiend essence which you get from beating his boss fight in the FIEND dlc.
How to get all stat 99?
why does the framerate looks better than on my switch? lol
I feel physical builds have become obsolete since bosses 99% of the time have weaknesses and both physical and magic attacks consume MP now
You build Nahobino with Strength so that you can make full use of Murakumo. No magic build comes close to Critical Zealot+Murakumo.
False. Nothing even comes close to the damage Murakumo can do. Look up Shiva 2 turn on RUclips and you'll see how broken physical is in this game.
@@colgado693 That's probably like one of the few exceptions. That's an endgame skill
You can still get the dracostrikes to cover weaknesses tho. And physical seems to eat up less MP than magic, especially if you have physical mastery
Physical builds, especially endgame, is actually pretty busted. Sure it struggles early game, but after that you literally crush bosses with almighty strength skills, or draco strikes midgame. You also have to consider demons within your party. A mag demon can outclass a mag mc (i.e. Amon unique, Metatron unique on single target, etc) but a physical demon cannot outclass a phys mc simply because of almighty crit. The problem: charge and concentrate is nerfed in this game (1.8× instead of 2× or 2.5×) and crit aura not only guarantees a crit on phys attacks but also guarantees that the attack lands. In addition, lategame nahobino magic sucks, thalassic calamity doesn't do that much damage unless it hits the max number amount of times (7) and even then it is elemental and doesn't pierce. Divine arrowfall is just megidola with less mp cost, and the problem with multi-target skills is that they do less damage than single target. In addition, using almighty skills outside of nahobino skills like megidoloan takes a ton of mp for very little damage even with pleromas and max proficiency and is again multi-target. Focusing on elementals has a tradeoff: being multi-elemental gives you turns when exploiting weaknesses but lacks damage potential; focusing on one element requires one slot that is for pierce magic which I capped at heavy damage. This isn't to say magic is trash, but that phys outclasses mag on the later stages of the game.
Nahobino is so bad ass, but I preffer the English voice for sure
As half chinese half Japanese, I have no problem with male voice in English dub for most JRPG, is the female voice that usually make me cringe… so I’ll still choose Japanese plus since that’s the original, for a game like this is fine, but for Persona series I prefer Japanese all the way.
It felt weird at first, but I got used to he sounding like Zelda BotW Link
That, and because I don't want to use 4 damn gigabytes of my Switch to download the japanese dub
What’s a good build for a combination of magic and phys?
Balanced str/mag in V is not advisable unless you are doing a specific run using the build.
murakumo, thalassic calamity, almighty plemora, high almighty plemora, ice plemora, high ice plemora. extra slots are for any of your choice, but i would go with enduring soul and impalers animus
That's what I did. The build is called the game is now harder but you get to see more cool animations
I'm kinda doing it i guess? i went hard on magic early (currently on early mid game) and now i'm balancing both my strenght and vitality.
Magic is still my superior stat but i get to use some physical skills when needed.
Again, level 99 fighting level 71 enemies. Level scaling invalidates this showcase.
So true lol
I was thinking that too. esp since the level difference affects both damage and chance to crit
How do you get null of every single element on nahobino??
He beat the game's DLC super boss, Demi-Fiend and used his Essence in fusion.
Outside of the obvious point of this video, but how do you even damage someone that’s null to everything and essentially resistant to all status effects?? This is a legitimate question
Almighty damage as well as moves and buffs that have a piercing effect.
@@PleasantLeech forgot about almighty lol
How the hell did you get 99 on every nahobino stat?
Balm grinding probably xd
@@Fermin-hw5pd I was under the impression that, unlike Incenses and Sutras, Balms are limited quantity. Is that not the case?
@@AzureGhidorah I'm not sure what you mean, the 3 items have a 99 amount cap, and the 3 can be obtained via navigators
@@Fermin-hw5pd while I’ve gotten incenses and sutras more then once from a spot, I’ve never seen more then one balm from any one spot.
@@AzureGhidorah Really? I get a few, they are rare but I got some, it's weird that you don't have a few of them
What are you stats?
He shows at 0:08. They are 99 across the board.
It’s literally shown in the video.
Murakumo makes physical damage.
Did murakumo also use the strength stats or not?
Murakumo is a strength-based almighty attack. Aramasa and Wrath Tempest are strength-based physical.
Magic builds allow your party to shine more, while physical casts away your synergies for pure power.they’re equally strong for different reasons.
Murakumo.
Physical all day, with some points in magic and agility so I'm not outsped and can press turn still
Agility does not determine your speed any longer. Your party setup and position does.
@@nyx3983 ^THIS.
In fact, Agility is sadly the worst stat to upgrade in this game. 😔😔
@@ReverofEnola It ups your hit rate and evasion. Its a fairly good stat to up time to time.
@@nyx3983 I tried without agility and I caved after missing against a kushi mitama. It helps that your forced to have some agility through forced stat distribution but you really need some agility to not miss
@@ReverofEnola agility is important in this game, some say it sucks because in this game, extreme agility difference still don't guarantee 100% hit-rate on enemy(like a slime can still dodge a 99lv demon attack), but in real battle, if the enemies' agility is around 5- 10 points higher than you, your attack will frequently miss, this was most obvious in fighting those anzu in ng since these bastard has 40 agi and is much higher than most demon around that level, and also in demi fiend battle, anyone without ~100agi miss a lot
Emulatad? That FPS and resolution… amazing
I went all in magic
feel like you are missing out on the strength based almighty stuff super OP and Yabusame Shot. But thats just IMO
Gae Rage is included here
Kids don't use Charge it sucks now use Donum Gladi
I always went with magic for this game cause I wanted Nahobino to be able to hit multiple targets at once. Made the Lahmu fight easier. I could be wrong, but I checked every physical attack in the base (No DLC) game and they all only hit one target at a time.
A few like heatwave(?) exist, but iirc most of them are usually only conventionally available after Lahmu, it might be easier to search it up, but I can check for you if you haven't finished the game yet, I was checking around the time of release to try to figure out what Aogami Essence 2 gave since i skipped right over it somehow and i couldn't find anything at the time.
Theres one called Yabusame Shot that hits all and it's always critical but it's kinda late game
There are plenty, you're just bad at searching.
There are plenty, you're just bad at searching.
Does wrath tempest not do 8 random attacks to enemies?
Is it in 60 fps ?!
Framerate is uncapped. 60 is the highest it can go I think
@@toby8907 oh, I thought the maximum was 30 fps, thanks.
@@ucky9226 Sorry for the late reply, but it's what I think after getting a little over 40 hrs into the game. It looks to be in 60 fps at most with having dip going from 60-mid 20's. Dips were very minimal though, which I'm glad for.
I thought nintendo switch games wasn't able to go beyond 60 fps. Well, I have learned something today, thank you ^^
@@ucky9226 Your welcome ^_^, and some only some games can have 60 fps switch, like Metriod Dread. Also Merry Christmas!
My real only complaint with the game is that I feel like the luck and agility status are basically useless and do absolutely nothing to benefit me or my demons
Agility boosts hit/evade rate for regular attacks and escape chance
Luck boosts item spawn rate after winning a battle, crit rate, and ailment hit rate.
Agility is kinda meh, but a luck build could be very decent if you go for a support/ailment nahobino.
Agility is trash. Luck is good though
Yeah agility is rather meh in the end
Luck is fine, it helps you to get a guaranteed crit to some degree. Agility is just useless besides making you taking the first turn in mob fights.
I'm just pissed at how many of my stat boosts have been wasted on str and luck with the lv up changes. I could have over 100 magic by now but atlus had to screw us over by taking the choice away from us.
Playing Phys build is much better than Magic
Murakumo makes physical damage.
Did murakumo also use the strength stats or not?
It does
@@laxmirio OK thanks
@@UnchaineTheUnchained Yup, and with the right build, you literally don't need any other skill.
My endgame build ended up being
Murakumo
Crit Aura
Revival chant (for if any of my demons bit the dust, especially Idun. Just an extra safety net)
Enduring Soul
Almighty Pleroma
High Almighty Pleroma
Great Mana Spring
Critical Zealot.
Yeah, sort of a Basic Bitch build, It was my best damging build. Only other demon I had that even came close was Fionn with a similar build, just replace the Almighty Pleromas with the Physical ones.