Hi Yann, Thanks for sharing your fantastic machine with us. Like all of the rest of your fans, I would really appreciate some more detail. If you had some plans then thats great, but even if you only had a parts list and details of where you sourced the key elements that make your machine so special, we would really appreciate your help. Best Regards Fraser
Yann - really appreciate the effort you put in to this project and the fact that yu share your experience, particularly for all us CNC newbies. excellent piece of equipment.
there is not a single youtuber willing to sell the plans for the ATC and a proper vacuum table. None of them even explain in detail how to get the ATC pneumatic working.
@@Z-add I'm building a vertical mill with ATC right now. I am using a BT30 belt drive spindle cartridge with drawbar and a 2kN pneumatic actuator to release the tools. It's really simple. The tool is held inside the spindle through the pull stud with a big stack of springs. To change the tool, pressure is applied to the pneumatic actuator which compresses the springs and releases the tool. ruclips.net/video/kkGQuBYEGMM/видео.html
@@Z-add Petr Fox explained the Jian Ken JGL-100 spindle in detail in his review, including the pneumatics. May be worth watching if you are interested. He also did an aluminium vacuum table for his CNC made from granite. Impressive stuff.
RoboCNC Frees- & Graveerwerk has free plans for his router build. No ATC or vacuum table but still a really solid CNC router. If Yann made plans available I would buy them in a heartbeat. But documentation is usually the least fun part of a build like this.....
@@jakemestre I looked at his website and could not find any plans. Maybe I was having a senior moment but I could sure use some help in the form of a link or something if you don't mind.
Nice work. I'm really liking the vacuum table setup. I'd love to see more videos on how well the design worked for you and details. I have been thinking the diaphragm vacuum pumps on some industrial water pumps I work with might do very well for the application.
Thanks. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think diaphragm vacuum pumps are high vacuum (close to 0 bar) but low airflow? It could be suited if you want to hold firmly small parts with good sealing, but in the case of a MDF vacuum table with lots of leaks, what's most important is a high airflow to compensate for all the leaks. No?
Could you release plans as well as the programming and setup for the atc please? I would buy them to make one myself and I’m sure many others would too.
Well done, very nice build. One thing to try is to add weight to it (ballast in the gantry) and it will dampen the vibrations. What soft are you running it on ? All the best!
Thanks. I'm not sure adding weight would dampen the vibrations. It would certainly lower the vibration frequency, but as for dampening I would need to use a material that actually absorb vibrations, not just dead weight. I'm running it with LinuxCNC.
Yann Pomarede: you are correct, you will shift the natural frequencies lower and thus getting rid of the typical buzz accompanying home made CNC machines. I wrote it up in a confusing way. Once again, well done !
Hi Yann, Thank you for the video. I am building my own and there is a ton of helpful information. Could you share where you purchased the Aluminum Extrusion and brackets from?
Awesome Machine, Would it be possible to get any info on the Pneumatic Valves and setup for the ATC, I have the 1.5 Kw version and know idea how to get it going.
Any links to the literature you used to build the ATC and program the tool changes? I'm going to build one but am lost on the nuances of the tool change details. Great build! Very inspiring! What are your toughest tolerances you can hold with this? Thank you.
Great Build! Impressively done, to say the least. I'm inspired and designing a similar system big enough for 4x8 feet pieces. Do you plan to release any more details on this? I have many small questions and I'm sure the community would appreciate a BOM list or something of the sort. Thanks again!
My motors are steppers, Leadshine 57HS13 with parallel wiring driven at 4A RMS with Leadshine DM556 drivers and 40 Volts PSU. And it's way enough. I cannot stop the machine with my hands. If I remember correctly my computations, the force is around 60kg (600N) on each axes. At max speed I loose half the torque/force, but that's still a huge force. And my limiting factor is the noise and vibration if I push too hard, but I've never stalled the machine. The radial force on the tools never goes up above a couple of kg in my use cases. Have you seen my other video milling aluminium? I think I'm still too conservative and I could be more agressive on the cut.
@@YannPomarede Yes, I have seen the other Video. Very impressive! Seems like a heavy cut concerning that it is a Router. I would be very interested in another Video where you try to find the limits of your machine. I am planning to build a CNC Mill myself. I will be using 3Nm Nema23 Steppers so I guess that will be plenty of power. To compensate for the vibration issue I will cast the frame of the machine (probably polymer concrete). But I am going for smaller X and Y and bigger Z travel, than on your machine (in general more of a aluminium/steel machining center).
I'd like to build one using polymer concrete someday! But I have more needs for a router now. Maybe later :) Yes 3Nm seems to be plenty of power, but you also need good stepper drivers that a high voltage power supply, that's the key to get the max performance out of your motors. High voltage decreases the time needed for the current to rise in the coil at each step, and that's what give you good torque at high speed.
Matt Eyles well. I had to choose the diameter and the pitch. I wanted a max linear speed of 9000mm/min. And calculating the critical speed (max rotational speed) of the ballscrew, a 1610 (diameter 16mm pitch 10mm) was perfect (and cheaper than larger ones)
I agree this is a very nice design and build. Check out EndCNC if you want to see another amazing build (in German but you can still see how it's done) ruclips.net/video/iZv0EGkI4r8/видео.html
Yes. Custom G code and M code written in python with LinuxCNC. I have a couple of G code to probe a corner, a cylinder, a face. Then those G codes push the result in a kind of stack of the last probed points. And finally I have some M codes to read the last results from the stack and apply a coordinate change. I could push my code to GitHub if you want.
No closed loop steppers? I mean with all the money spent on quality parts I would highly advise that. If only to ensure your expensive spindle is not damaged if ever things go badly.
I know I know... For that reason and a couple of other (no pressure sensor in the vacuum table), I always keep my hand on the emergency stop while running. My next build will be using servo motors with position feedback to LinuxCNC and velocity control to the drives.
@@YannPomarede Using the JMC 180w servos myself in a build I am currently doing. They would be a fairly good match and not at all more expensive than a leadshine driver + stepper. Thing with them is the driver is part of these servos so price wise they are really good at about 100 Euros for the new versions with v6 firmware. Even the 400W versions are not that super expensive.
Hi yann great work . i have a project similar , i couldunt find information about creating post process for the automatic tool change . Can you help me about it ?
Hi Yann ! Great Build ! Can you please tell us what material was used in the first two layers that you initially machined and then glued together, in the fabrication of your MDF Vacuum Table Top, as we are currently in the process of retrofitting a 4' x 4' Router Table for a customer, who brought your router build to our attention ? (1) Are the first two layers made from a "Plastic Material", as the swarf produced was "Black" in colour ? (2) What glue did you use to adhere the two layers ? Hope you can help us, and our customer ! Regards GCS CNC Group !
Hello, this material is "Valchromat" (I think it's the brand/product name here in Europe). It's kind of a MDF panel, but more dense (made with finer powder), more rigid, and more airtight. Even though air can still pass trough, but way less than with MDF. The glue is normal wood glue (PVA). If you don't have those high density MDF panels, you can simply use normal MDF and apply PVA glue on both face so you don't have air leaks.
Thank you for your prompt reply Yann ! Greatly Appreciated ! I wasn't aware of such a product being available here in Australia ! Just found a local importer of "Valchromat", and I will now be able to look into the suitability of this product for my customer's retrofit 4' x 4' Router Table, with vacuum ! Regards GCS CNC Group !
Podrías hacer un presupuesto de cuanto te costó todo? La verdad es que estoy muy interesado en una fresadora como esa. Pero de la parte mecánica la verdad es qie tengo mas bien 0 idea... I think you understand Spanish, if not, tellme and ill translate it to english. Greetings from spain
SeanM for straightness I rely on the aluminum profiles. They are supposed to be straight enough for my needs. And for squareness I measure the error with a probe on a set square, then I offset one of the two Y motors to get perfect squareness.
hi cv i saw all your video and i love this machine i am a carpenter in morocco can i ask you for all the accessories from AaZ for 1m / 2m cnc machines. thank you and send me the total price of all accessories thank you very much for your time to explain to us
Yann,fantastique ta machine !!! Super vidéo et explications. J'ai visé la même broche pour mon projet, tu est le premier à l'avoir essayé , comment elle marche? Merci pour ta générosité de partage. J'aime bien les autres vidéos aussi. Keep up the great work!!! Salutations de Nice.
Merci :) Elle marche super la broche, j'en suis vraiment content. Sa limite bien sûr c'est peu de couple, donc il faut tourner vite bien l'exploiter. Mais bon quand je dis peu de couple, je fais du slotting 8x5mm dans du PVC rigide à 9000mm/min à 30k RPM. Donc ça va quand même.
It’s a 1610. Twice the pitch of the 1605 to double the maximum speed. I’m limited by the ball screw vibrating rather than the motor speed/power. And I get 9000mm/min with this setup.
@@YannPomarede thanks! Im designing a similair cnc to yours but was in doubt between the 1605 and 2005 spindels. The 1605 are max 1500mm it seems, how long are yours?
Mine are 1542mm, bought from Dold Mechatronik. Be sure to check the maximum rotating speed, which decreases drastically when length increases. Because choosing a 5mm pitch on 1500mm length might result in slow movements. But of course it depends on your needs.
Hi Yann, I'm building the machine at the moment, same design as yours but 2010 spindels, table size 2000x1000 with slightly more Z height with all black aluminium profiles :p and some closed loop nema23 steppers. I also ordered the ATC spindle, because I also don't like to switch around the tools constantly. Small question, for the Z assembly aluminium plates, did you use 15mm? I'm wondering if it is enough, I have 15mm material but considering to buy 20mm. I'll upload a video when the assembly is done and will post it here. :)
I have outgrown my small machine and would love to build one like this. Have you by chance made any headway on a build list? My goal for this year is to have a 4 by 8 machine.
I still haven't written down a full list... I need to build another one for this summer so I'll try to describe everything more in details during the build. It will be a 4 by 8 router ;-)
@@YannPomarede could you tell me where you found the connector plates for the diagonal bracing, I've not seen those before and they are really interesting.
Fair warning to anyone in the US purchasing a similar spindle from China. I paid $2100 for the spindle and just got a bill from customs for another $636.00
Too heavy for the rails, the bearings, or the screws? Those are 20mm rails, each of the 4 bearings on those 2 rails supports a dynamic load of 17 kN (~1700 kg). And each 5mm screw (class 12.9) on the rail breaks at 10kN (~1000kg). There is a screw every 60mm. That leaves some room for overloading that gantry. We could easily fit 10 persons on it! Well, not that easily because there would not be enough space to sit ;-)
Sound strong enough. Can't remember ever seeing such a config. Keeps the rails clean and out of the way. Those 10 people on the gantry would be a fun YT video :)
Why did you put linear rails under the profile and not on the side? Also want to know what cnc controller software do you use and dimensions of the machine. Thanks
Beautiful build man! I'm thinking of building a similar machine myself. I agree with a lot of other people in the comments that a BOM would be absolutely terrific! :) Great job!
Nice machine! I'm building a similar machine. The only thing I'm wondering is how is the drive mounted for the z axis? In your video I can't see this. Keep up the good work. 👍
amazing work.... I would like to build one with tool changer..... are you going to make a video how you did in linux CNC? I'm trying to learn it ... thanks to post these would be great to see an explanation how you plug the Mesa card i just bought 7i76e to start my build.... but no experience putting everything together... would really help if you can take your time to show yours... thanks! regards from Brazil! :P
Hello! Really liked your build, u probably seen this question often but are you going to sell the build? I saw a comment that you were going to open source it but I see that you haven’t upload anything recently. Also what did you study? I am really interested in learning a lot more on machining and electronics for these types of machines
I decided to try the Mesa 7i96 board however I'm having trouble setting it up with LinuxCNC and any searches points me to a python 3 config tool which doesn't seem to be compatible with the 2.7.14 iso. Which Linux version are you using to run LinuxCNC?
I have 2 machines running LinuxCNC. One runs on Debian Stretch, the other one on Debian Buster. And both are compiled from the source, branch 2.8. I run the PREEMPT_RT realtime flavour. I never had to use a python3 config tool. The configuration of the 7i96 is very similar to any other Mesa card. The only difference is that you have to "loadrt hm2_eth" (with some arguments, like IP) in the ".hal" file instead of hm2_pci or hm2_xxx. Then when you run LinuxCNC from command line, even if it fails it should print all the Mesa pin that were auto detected. The name of the pin will of course depends on your physical boards. Example "hm2_7i96.0.7i84.0.0.input-07-not" is the 7th input of my first 7i84 daughter board connected to my 7i96. Then you can edit your .hal to match all the LinuxCNC I/O to the Mesa pins.
@@YannPomarede I have the machine reading the input limit switches fine and I'm able to home. I'm having trouble with the outputs. I have my valves connected to opto isolated relay cards. Are you able to control the outputs from the command line using halcmd? I'm able to communicate fine and show pins but when I do setp hm2_7i96.0.ssr.00.out-00 TRUE or FALSE, there's no change. Any thoughts? Working with TB3 Pins 13 to 24. BTW. Thanks for all your help so far.
Think I've figured it out. For the outputs, I just needed to swap the + and - pins. I also tested them in a running instance of LinuxCNC. I'm assuming the command line process, you have to start a thread to get the pins to update but not 100 percent sure.
@@billh4321 Great. Yes the outputs are almost like floating switches, but polarised. And yes you need this line for the mesa board to be read at the servo thread frequency (1000Hz) : "addf hm2_7i96.0.read servo-thread".
Finally working on the new spindle. I have all the pneumatics connected and working. On the 7i96, I have the limit switches connected using +5V for the common input. I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to connect the two PNP sensors from the spindle. Assuming your spindle also has PNP, how did you end up connecting them?
Hi, very nice work man! :) what about machining steel or titan? is your machine rigid enough? Have you been considering polymer concrete for example as the material for your CNC's frame?
How much is the total cost of this machine about? And is it a good project for a diy person? I have 2 3d Printers and I would like to include a cnc machine for aluminium. Do you have an advise for me?
Well, it you want a CNC for aluminium, I guess a vertical mill would be better than a gantry style machine. And it's easier to build a sturdy vertical mini mill. But it all depends on the usable surface that you want? Of course it's a great project for a DIY person :) And it's not that far from building 3D printers. You can even use the same electronics and motors for a small CNC.
Do you have any plans to share or sell plans for your CNC? Epic build
@Emerson Chaim Instablaster =)
@Emerson Chaim no problem =)
After your last video I wanted to build one bad. Now I see that I am not smart enough. That’s an awesome machine and I’m jealous.
Hi Yann, Thanks for sharing your fantastic machine with us. Like all of the rest of your fans, I would really appreciate some more detail. If you had some plans then thats great, but even if you only had a parts list and details of where you sourced the key elements that make your machine so special, we would really appreciate your help. Best Regards Fraser
I would like to see the implementation of the probe build and set up in it's own video. Nice set up.
Yann - really appreciate the effort you put in to this project and the fact that yu share your experience, particularly for all us CNC newbies. excellent piece of equipment.
Wow - that's awesome for home-brew!
I would love to see a parts list for your router set-up! Any plans to offer plans?? ;)
I as well would pay for exact plans for this entire setup.
there is not a single youtuber willing to sell the plans for the ATC and a proper vacuum table. None of them even explain in detail how to get the ATC pneumatic working.
@@Z-add I'm building a vertical mill with ATC right now. I am using a BT30 belt drive spindle cartridge with drawbar and a 2kN pneumatic actuator to release the tools. It's really simple. The tool is held inside the spindle through the pull stud with a big stack of springs. To change the tool, pressure is applied to the pneumatic actuator which compresses the springs and releases the tool.
ruclips.net/video/kkGQuBYEGMM/видео.html
@@Z-add Petr Fox explained the Jian Ken JGL-100 spindle in detail in his review, including the pneumatics. May be worth watching if you are interested. He also did an aluminium vacuum table for his CNC made from granite. Impressive stuff.
RoboCNC Frees- & Graveerwerk has free plans for his router build. No ATC or vacuum table but still a really solid CNC router. If Yann made plans available I would buy them in a heartbeat. But documentation is usually the least fun part of a build like this.....
@@jakemestre I looked at his website and could not find any plans. Maybe I was having a senior moment but I could sure use some help in the form of a link or something if you don't mind.
Looks really great! Nice job
You are the king of home builds! What cfm compressor are you using for you spindle?
I have a 3HP compressor. But it’s mainly for blasting air on the end mill. The spindle use very little air (air seal + tool change)
Nice work. I'm really liking the vacuum table setup. I'd love to see more videos on how well the design worked for you and details. I have been thinking the diaphragm vacuum pumps on some industrial water pumps I work with might do very well for the application.
Thanks. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think diaphragm vacuum pumps are high vacuum (close to 0 bar) but low airflow? It could be suited if you want to hold firmly small parts with good sealing, but in the case of a MDF vacuum table with lots of leaks, what's most important is a high airflow to compensate for all the leaks. No?
I am jealous. Awesome machine!
Could you release plans as well as the programming and setup for the atc please? I would buy them to make one myself and I’m sure many others would too.
Such a beautiful machine! Excellent video! I made sure to like and subscribe!
It's a great video. Thank you.
wow man, that's a beautiful machine
Wow that is amazing!
Great project
The best build I've seen so far
great great build
Damn man, this is beautiful.
Also, your english is excellent for a frenchman.
Hahaha, thanks. Wherever I go I can never hide that I'm french.
@@YannPomarede Well, most french people show their nationality by refusing to speak anything but french, your accent just improves the experience. ;)
Wow! Great work! Very nice Machine!👌
Well done, very nice build. One thing to try is to add weight to it (ballast in the gantry) and it will dampen the vibrations.
What soft are you running it on ?
All the best!
Thanks. I'm not sure adding weight would dampen the vibrations. It would certainly lower the vibration frequency, but as for dampening I would need to use a material that actually absorb vibrations, not just dead weight.
I'm running it with LinuxCNC.
Yann Pomarede: you are correct, you will shift the natural frequencies lower and thus getting rid of the typical buzz accompanying home made CNC machines. I wrote it up in a confusing way. Once again, well done !
Hi Yann, Thank you for the video. I am building my own and there is a ton of helpful information. Could you share where you purchased the Aluminum Extrusion and brackets from?
Thank you for sharing that Yann, well done. Keep us updated please! -Rob
Awesome machine, im about to build one myself. What did that ATC Spindle cost you?
Thanks
Awesome Machine, Would it be possible to get any info on the Pneumatic Valves and setup for the ATC, I have the 1.5 Kw version and know idea how to get it going.
Any links to the literature you used to build the ATC and program the tool changes? I'm going to build one but am lost on the nuances of the tool change details. Great build! Very inspiring! What are your toughest tolerances you can hold with this? Thank you.
Nice machine. How much was the spindle?
Very impressive work. Are you running Mach3?
Great Build! Impressively done, to say the least. I'm inspired and designing a similar system big enough for 4x8 feet pieces. Do you plan to release any more details on this? I have many small questions and I'm sure the community would appreciate a BOM list or something of the sort. Thanks again!
Beautifully live bourgeois.
Amazing machine!
What Steppers/Servos did you use? The ones I could see in the video seemed rather small for milling aluminium.
My motors are steppers, Leadshine 57HS13 with parallel wiring driven at 4A RMS with Leadshine DM556 drivers and 40 Volts PSU. And it's way enough. I cannot stop the machine with my hands. If I remember correctly my computations, the force is around 60kg (600N) on each axes. At max speed I loose half the torque/force, but that's still a huge force. And my limiting factor is the noise and vibration if I push too hard, but I've never stalled the machine. The radial force on the tools never goes up above a couple of kg in my use cases. Have you seen my other video milling aluminium? I think I'm still too conservative and I could be more agressive on the cut.
@@YannPomarede Yes, I have seen the other Video. Very impressive! Seems like a heavy cut concerning that it is a Router. I would be very interested in another Video where you try to find the limits of your machine.
I am planning to build a CNC Mill myself. I will be using 3Nm Nema23 Steppers so I guess that will be plenty of power. To compensate for the vibration issue I will cast the frame of the machine (probably polymer concrete). But I am going for smaller X and Y and bigger Z travel, than on your machine (in general more of a aluminium/steel machining center).
I'd like to build one using polymer concrete someday! But I have more needs for a router now. Maybe later :)
Yes 3Nm seems to be plenty of power, but you also need good stepper drivers that a high voltage power supply, that's the key to get the max performance out of your motors. High voltage decreases the time needed for the current to rise in the coil at each step, and that's what give you good torque at high speed.
Where can I find some info on how to set up the tool changer?
I know, right??!!??!
Fantastic build, could you elaborate on your ball screw choices?
Matt Eyles well. I had to choose the diameter and the pitch. I wanted a max linear speed of 9000mm/min. And calculating the critical speed (max rotational speed) of the ballscrew, a 1610 (diameter 16mm pitch 10mm) was perfect (and cheaper than larger ones)
Great build, thanks for making the video explaining it. Cheers, Owen.
Hello
Can you send me the name of the controller you used in this machine😊
Woooow! Great machine! Best build I've seen so far!!!!
I agree this is a very nice design and build. Check out EndCNC if you want to see another amazing build (in German but you can still see how it's done) ruclips.net/video/iZv0EGkI4r8/видео.html
bonjour superbe realisation a quel prix le tout svp ??
Nice build! What are you using for the xy autosquaring ? Custom script ? (i asume it is running linux cnc like shown on the old router ?)
Yes. Custom G code and M code written in python with LinuxCNC.
I have a couple of G code to probe a corner, a cylinder, a face. Then those G codes push the result in a kind of stack of the last probed points. And finally I have some M codes to read the last results from the stack and apply a coordinate change.
I could push my code to GitHub if you want.
@@YannPomarede yes, that would be nice :)
Here it is: github.com/yannpom/ouimill2
@@YannPomarede thx :) will have a look at it after the hollidays
No closed loop steppers? I mean with all the money spent on quality parts I would highly advise that. If only to ensure your expensive spindle is not damaged if ever things go badly.
I know I know... For that reason and a couple of other (no pressure sensor in the vacuum table), I always keep my hand on the emergency stop while running. My next build will be using servo motors with position feedback to LinuxCNC and velocity control to the drives.
@@YannPomarede Using the JMC 180w servos myself in a build I am currently doing. They would be a fairly good match and not at all more expensive than a leadshine driver + stepper. Thing with them is the driver is part of these servos so price wise they are really good at about 100 Euros for the new versions with v6 firmware. Even the 400W versions are not that super expensive.
Hi yann great work . i have a project similar , i couldunt find information about creating post process for the automatic tool change . Can you help me about it ?
Why is it nobody explains in detail how atc pneumatics work...ie what kind of actuators what kind of valves Etc are required
I'm also looking for it and no one has a video on it.
Yann Pomarede . that is a relay nice system. do you have any more information of this system you can chare us
Hi Yann ! Great Build ! Can you please tell us what material was used in the first two layers that you initially machined and then glued together, in the fabrication of your MDF Vacuum Table Top, as we are currently in the process of retrofitting a 4' x 4' Router Table for a customer, who brought your router build to our attention ? (1) Are the first two layers made from a "Plastic Material", as the swarf produced was "Black" in colour ? (2) What glue did you use to adhere the two layers ? Hope you can help us, and our customer ! Regards GCS CNC Group !
Hello, this material is "Valchromat" (I think it's the brand/product name here in Europe). It's kind of a MDF panel, but more dense (made with finer powder), more rigid, and more airtight. Even though air can still pass trough, but way less than with MDF. The glue is normal wood glue (PVA). If you don't have those high density MDF panels, you can simply use normal MDF and apply PVA glue on both face so you don't have air leaks.
Thank you for your prompt reply Yann ! Greatly Appreciated ! I wasn't aware of such a product being available here in Australia ! Just found a local importer of "Valchromat", and I will now be able to look into the suitability of this product for my customer's retrofit 4' x 4' Router Table, with vacuum ! Regards GCS CNC Group !
Probably the best diy build ive seen ! How powerfull is the vaccuum motor ?
The side channel blower used for vacuum has a power of 2.2kW, airflow = 318 m^3/h and pressure = -0.190 bars.
Reference GHBH 003 34 1R7.
Podrías hacer un presupuesto de cuanto te costó todo? La verdad es que estoy muy interesado en una fresadora como esa. Pero de la parte mecánica la verdad es qie tengo mas bien 0 idea...
I think you understand Spanish, if not, tellme and ill translate it to english.
Greetings from spain
How do you ensure the bearings/axis travel are straight and square to each other? Aren't the aluminium extrusions warped?
SeanM for straightness I rely on the aluminum profiles. They are supposed to be straight enough for my needs. And for squareness I measure the error with a probe on a set square, then I offset one of the two Y motors to get perfect squareness.
Great work , i want all BOM and PLANS electrical and electronics
Awesome machine, how do you do the automatic squaring of the axes?
hi cv i saw all your video and i love this machine i am a carpenter in morocco can i ask you for all the accessories from AaZ for 1m / 2m cnc machines. thank you and send me the total price of all accessories thank you very much for your time to explain to us
Yann,fantastique ta machine !!! Super vidéo et explications. J'ai visé la même broche pour mon projet, tu est le premier à l'avoir essayé , comment elle marche?
Merci pour ta générosité de partage. J'aime bien les autres vidéos aussi.
Keep up the great work!!!
Salutations de Nice.
Merci :) Elle marche super la broche, j'en suis vraiment content. Sa limite bien sûr c'est peu de couple, donc il faut tourner vite bien l'exploiter. Mais bon quand je dis peu de couple, je fais du slotting 8x5mm dans du PVC rigide à 9000mm/min à 30k RPM. Donc ça va quand même.
@@YannPomarede Merci pour la réponse et ta générosité .
Please tell me you have build plans? I want to build one like yours
How much did the major parts of your machine cost? Trying to design my own machine and I feel like it would cost an arm and a leg...
Super nice build! Thank you very much for sharing!
Small question, which spindels did you use for the 1400mm y-axis ? 1605 or bigger ones?
It’s a 1610. Twice the pitch of the 1605 to double the maximum speed. I’m limited by the ball screw vibrating rather than the motor speed/power. And I get 9000mm/min with this setup.
@@YannPomarede thanks! Im designing a similair cnc to yours but was in doubt between the 1605 and 2005 spindels. The 1605 are max 1500mm it seems, how long are yours?
Mine are 1542mm, bought from Dold Mechatronik. Be sure to check the maximum rotating speed, which decreases drastically when length increases. Because choosing a 5mm pitch on 1500mm length might result in slow movements. But of course it depends on your needs.
@@YannPomarede thanks a lot!
I will try to get the 1610 ones as well, seems like a perfect option!
Hi Yann, I'm building the machine at the moment, same design as yours but 2010 spindels, table size 2000x1000 with slightly more Z height with all black aluminium profiles :p and some closed loop nema23 steppers. I also ordered the ATC spindle, because I also don't like to switch around the tools constantly.
Small question, for the Z assembly aluminium plates, did you use 15mm?
I'm wondering if it is enough, I have 15mm material but considering to buy 20mm.
I'll upload a video when the assembly is done and will post it here. :)
Incredible build. Thank you for sharing!
Do you have a bill of materials for the spindle, probe, vaccum motor, etc?
I have outgrown my small machine and would love to build one like this. Have you by chance made any headway on a build list? My goal for this year is to have a 4 by 8 machine.
I still haven't written down a full list... I need to build another one for this summer so I'll try to describe everything more in details during the build. It will be a 4 by 8 router ;-)
@@YannPomarede could you tell me where you found the connector plates for the diagonal bracing, I've not seen those before and they are really interesting.
Please what bit and spindle speed do you use to cut the black foam spiral at the beginning of the video? Thanks
Yann, what size is the extruded aluminum and what site did you buy?
80x80 and 80x160mm for the gantry, bought from Motedis
Which control board and control sofrware you use for this project?
LinuxCNC and boards from mesanet.com
Use stepper motor.... close lup stepper motor what type of motor
Yann, we need more video's from you.....Please and Thank you!
Bonjour, como t'allez vous? I'm looking into building something very similar are you able to discuss in further detail I have a few questions.
Which stepper drivers are used? Original leadshine or chinese ones
Original Leadshine, they work great and once tweaked (with the automatic mode) my stepper became totally silent.
Beautiful Biuld. Amazing job. Love the ATC
I am amazed from such a wonder! Great work, so inspiring! Yann, thanks for sharing it
is vacuum pump required for atc spindle?
Nice Vid - Subscribed.
Do you sell any plans to build this machine?
Fair warning to anyone in the US purchasing a similar spindle from China. I paid $2100 for the spindle and just got a bill from customs for another $636.00
The whole gantry is basically hanging from the 2 linear rails on the bottom? Is the gantry not to heavy for that?
Too heavy for the rails, the bearings, or the screws? Those are 20mm rails, each of the 4 bearings on those 2 rails supports a dynamic load of 17 kN (~1700 kg). And each 5mm screw (class 12.9) on the rail breaks at 10kN (~1000kg). There is a screw every 60mm. That leaves some room for overloading that gantry. We could easily fit 10 persons on it! Well, not that easily because there would not be enough space to sit ;-)
Sound strong enough. Can't remember ever seeing such a config. Keeps the rails clean and out of the way. Those 10 people on the gantry would be a fun YT video :)
It sucks coming across amazing builds like this...and then realizing their probably wont be another post 😕 😭
This is awesome my dude! How much does that ATC spindle cost? Actually, how much does the whole project overall cost?
Around 1.5k€ for the spindle and between 6k and 9k overall. Depending if I count the options and all the tooling.
Which VFD are you using?
Wow wow fuckin wow that’s awesome
Hello, I also have a jgl spindle from jianken, could you tell me what frequency inverter you have?
What a job!! Good machine!!!
Why did you put linear rails under the profile and not on the side? Also want to know what cnc controller software do you use and dimensions of the machine. Thanks
Great job men . The connection with computer is usb ? What kind of breakout board are you used ?
It’s a Mesa 7i96 board connected with Ethernet to the computer. And I run LinuxCNC on the computer.
Beautiful build man! I'm thinking of building a similar machine myself. I agree with a lot of other people in the comments that a BOM would be absolutely terrific! :) Great job!
Nice machine! I'm building a similar machine. The only thing I'm wondering is how is the drive mounted for the z axis? In your video I can't see this. Keep up the good work. 👍
amazing work.... I would like to build one with tool changer..... are you going to make a video how you did in linux CNC? I'm trying to learn it ... thanks to post these would be great to see an explanation how you plug the Mesa card i just bought 7i76e to start my build.... but no experience putting everything together... would really help if you can take your time to show yours... thanks! regards from Brazil! :P
Hello! Really liked your build, u probably seen this question often but are you going to sell the build? I saw a comment that you were going to open source it but I see that you haven’t upload anything recently. Also what did you study? I am really interested in learning a lot more on machining and electronics for these types of machines
How much was a spindle
JGL spindle sounds solid. Nice work.
OpenScad? wow! you are a wizard!
Bonsoir Yann, je decouvre ta video...Vraiment du tres beau travail...cela tourne t'il sous Grbl ?
Philippe
Bonjour Philippe, merci. Ça tourne avec LinuxCNC sur un PC, et quelques cartes Mesanet.com pour la partie hardware.
Any chance of posting the CAD files? It would be greatly appreciated!
Yes, in the coming weeks I'll be working on open sourcing the design. I'll post a new video on my channel when it's done.
Please post cad files
@@YannPomarede Great!! Very nice works!! I am very interesting in this project. I hope to will have information about this!
@@YannPomarede look forward to seeing this going open source :D thanks for the great video
Hi Yann, I am very impressed with your CNC and would like to ask you if your CAD files have been published anywhere? Thanks very much
were did you get the 45° blocks from? i didnt find this on any supplier
I decided to try the Mesa 7i96 board however I'm having trouble setting it up with LinuxCNC and any searches points me to a python 3 config tool which doesn't seem to be compatible with the 2.7.14 iso. Which Linux version are you using to run LinuxCNC?
I have 2 machines running LinuxCNC. One runs on Debian Stretch, the other one on Debian Buster. And both are compiled from the source, branch 2.8. I run the PREEMPT_RT realtime flavour. I never had to use a python3 config tool. The configuration of the 7i96 is very similar to any other Mesa card. The only difference is that you have to "loadrt hm2_eth" (with some arguments, like IP) in the ".hal" file instead of hm2_pci or hm2_xxx. Then when you run LinuxCNC from command line, even if it fails it should print all the Mesa pin that were auto detected. The name of the pin will of course depends on your physical boards. Example "hm2_7i96.0.7i84.0.0.input-07-not" is the 7th input of my first 7i84 daughter board connected to my 7i96. Then you can edit your .hal to match all the LinuxCNC I/O to the Mesa pins.
@@YannPomarede I have the machine reading the input limit switches fine and I'm able to home. I'm having trouble with the outputs. I have my valves connected to opto isolated relay cards. Are you able to control the outputs from the command line using halcmd? I'm able to communicate fine and show pins but when I do setp hm2_7i96.0.ssr.00.out-00 TRUE or FALSE, there's no change. Any thoughts? Working with TB3 Pins 13 to 24.
BTW. Thanks for all your help so far.
Think I've figured it out. For the outputs, I just needed to swap the + and - pins. I also tested them in a running instance of LinuxCNC. I'm assuming the command line process, you have to start a thread to get the pins to update but not 100 percent sure.
@@billh4321 Great. Yes the outputs are almost like floating switches, but polarised. And yes you need this line for the mesa board to be read at the servo thread frequency (1000Hz) : "addf hm2_7i96.0.read servo-thread".
Finally working on the new spindle. I have all the pneumatics connected and working. On the 7i96, I have the limit switches connected using +5V for the common input. I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to connect the two PNP sensors from the spindle. Assuming your spindle also has PNP, how did you end up connecting them?
Super la table ! Quel materiel a tu utiliser pour le vacuum table?
Hi, very nice work man! :) what about machining steel or titan? is your machine rigid enough? Have you been considering polymer concrete for example as the material for your CNC's frame?
Perfect job. So,I have some quiestion.What's a kind of meterial did you make for a vaccum table?
How much is the total cost of this machine about? And is it a good project for a diy person? I have 2 3d Printers and I would like to include a cnc machine for aluminium.
Do you have an advise for me?
Well, it you want a CNC for aluminium, I guess a vertical mill would be better than a gantry style machine. And it's easier to build a sturdy vertical mini mill. But it all depends on the usable surface that you want?
Of course it's a great project for a DIY person :) And it's not that far from building 3D printers. You can even use the same electronics and motors for a small CNC.
@@YannPomarede Do you know a diy vertical mill with instructions?
i yust have to tell you, thats probably the closest ive seen a diy machine to a datron m8 🔥🔥😍
Where did you order your aluminum profiles and allt the rest impotent stuff?? And what cad can software did you use?? Awesome build!!
Whar CNC siftware are you runnin Yann and does it natively support tool changing?
Do you offer the machine plans?
I'm willing to pay even for drawings only.
Would it be possible for you to show your circuit schematic for this CNC router? Amazing work btw!
Hi, i love this machine. Can i have the project so I built my own?