another idea. Maybe try mounting a big brush the entire length of the gantry it brushs over the collet holders cleaning them off as it travels back to pick up another tool. And if they are long enough it will protect them from debris while you are cutting.
Set your tool up close to the same length and put your coolant in front of the tool facing toward your tool storage rack. To keep coolant and chips off the tool storage rack, add a flip door to the front of the tool storage rack that opens when it moves forward. It will just be mechanical in design, it will pull itself up and back as the tool rack moves forward to clear spindle.
I have appreciated you sharing your UCCNC/ATC build. It has been very helpful. I am looking forward to the next installment and hope that you publish sourcing of parts used. It would be helpful as I am building a new control box to upgrade to UB1/vfd/S30 ATC/etc for my router. Thanx!
great to hear, I've been procrastinating on making a thread somewhere to document my build a little better but I've been enjoying making these videos. Perhaps in the upcoming weeks I'll make a set of videos going over my macros and the few things I learned about writing them, I'm sure that'll help a bunch of people.
Big hug from Perú. I would really love a video step by step on the how to ATC a normal CNC. That would the first video of its kind I guess. Haven't found any yet.
Very interesting video. And great job on your build! I do have 2 ideas for considering, regarding your issues.. for tool rack: mount small angles with rollers on each side of that aluminum extrusion, that way you mechanically simple solve the same side distance caused by any irregularities that centered/single SMC might cause. 2nd idea is for the tool rack cover which would just be using plexy (or similar) plate of same hight as rack, 'folding' down when rack 'pushes' it ( plexy attached to two pivot points on both sides, self closing with spring, when rack retracts).
Your electronics look good too man I'm low-key jealous lol 😆 I'm in the process of my making my CNC machine and I have my linear rails coming I'm going with MGN12H on the y axis and HGH25 rails on the X Carriage and Z Axis
Just a thought maybe you should install some stops infront of each side of the linear beaings on your tool changer so you can adjust the stoping position and it you could correct it from being out of alignment with the gantry.
Looking forward to more info. I have nearly the same setup (uccnc and a ATC spindle) and have been wanting to make a tool rack. Please share the macros :)
that tool rack moves very fast. i would either reduce the air pressure or (if you need that pressure to keep the rack in place) put some valves in the airlines that restrict the flow and slow down the rack.
Less fast is less fun. There’s 2 sensors in the cylinder for position. Macro waits for the signal when cylinder is fully extended before proceeding. The tool holder clips are very strong so that helps as well. I’m thinking of a redesign where the tool holders are dropped into pockets instead, I’ll probably have to slow it down for that.
Hi Nikita, great job you did with the setup and the programming. I have a almost similar setup but have not started with the tool holder. I can share my UCCNC macros as well, like for probing with angular rotation. Please let me know. BR Michael
I'd be worried about the radiator and pumps moving with the gantry, also debris can get so bad I still have to clean up my radiator which is inside the table under the machine, can't image how dirty it would get under the gantry. Also a damper for the eject is a great idea, I'd be able to adjust it so that the release is more in sync with my retract from the tool clamp to avoid strain. Thanks for that
It's really powerful, the C# for macro programming is really nice. The only feature that is still missing would be S curve acceleration for larger router machines but they said they're working on it.
@@Z-add lmao absolutely not, to start there's no encoder on the spindle (it's not a servo) and it's a high speed router spindle, doesn't have the rpm range or torque for rigid tapping. I do have some threadmills ready for some practice cuts just haven't had a part that needed them yet.
Dude Your a genius!! I never thought my 3040 could have this!! What type of attachments are you using for that? I have a 1500 watt watercooled spindlle wit ha 4 axis 3040. You've got a life time subscriber! Can you break down how you set up the calibration for a beginner? Thank you!
Hi Nikita, how are you ? Great work with your build. Thanks for sharing. I just got the same spindle you have and I’m getting ready to setup my ATC in UCCNC, I’m not new to the software but new to ATC setup with the software and I would greatly appreciate some help. Would you mind sharing or Selling your M6 macro for the ATC and any other resource links you think can help me out? Thank you.
Really impressive setup but I can't imagine the cost of just that pneumatic spindle and controller compared to the entirety of the machine. Must be huge having seen those spindle prices.
Awesome! Thank you so much for forging the way forward with this and documenting it. I had been waiting for this video and thought you might never make it! How do I contact you with questions ?
You can ask me here or message me with your questions, otherwise I'll most likely be making a thread on either CNCzone or some other forum where I write/draw things out and can answer questions there.
The motor is not pushing in the middle, so the bar holding the tools us default pushed , if not replace the pneumatic cylinder more to the side where the deviation is.
Very impressive, I have the same spindle and controller, could you possibly post some links to the bits and pieces you used for operating the ATC function. I would be glad to support on patreon or something for some help with my setup.
@NikitasLab hey man I was wondering if you would be able to make a BOM for the components your ATC air assist system is made up of the names of the parts with pictures maybe? I've never really known what make up those systems and would like to make one myself. Any insight in how the whole system is made would be great 👍 Thanks
Hi Nikita, got here through the review video from Fox. Very interesting to see your setup in detail, great video. 👍 Decided to order the same spindel as you are using. Do you have a list somewhere of the components you used and where to order?. Like the watercooling components and pneumatics?. Thanks in advance!.
How much air does the compressor really need to provide for the ATC? I've read 90 PSI at a run rate of 5 CFM. In the videos I am watching, it only seems to need the 90 PSI during a tool change event. Seems like the 5 CFM requirement is overkill...
Cool project and great video, I really appreciate all the info! Audio level is great now, thanks! Anything you would care to say about selecting a spindle? Looking like for general milling and drilling of aluminum, brass and steel, a low speed range and higher torque would be most useful if wanting to (for example) run a 1/2" / 12mm drill or a face mill (though that may be out of range for this mill). What tool diameters and speed ranges do you use most commonly, please? Would a check valve on the coolant at the tank be useful, to help prevent coolant from draining back from the lines? Planning a chip / coolant catch tray or enclosure? Seems like using larger tubing and shortening it by placing the solenoid valves as close as possible to the head would provide faster response on the pneumatic lines.
Most of my tooling ranges from 1mm (a 2flute for touching u corners in aluminum panels) up to 6mm, high RPM. I've seen custom builds of low RPM spindles using servo motors belt-driving BT30 ATC heads, that would be my path if I wanted to DIY a mill. Check valve for the watercooling isn't necessary, the pump is at the bottom so it's never starved and after a few seconds most of the air is back in the reservoir. I'm currently designing a spoilboard that'll allow me to install side panels to it, keeping most of the chips contained. Flood is something I did on my old router and it's not worth the hassle IMO. A strong air assist and misting system should give me good results in aluminum, and I've been machining more plastics and woods recently. The pneumatics aren't very air hungry, the system is very responsive with mostly 6mm tubing. The only "mission critical" air components are the 2 pistons, 1 inside the spindle for the clamp and 1 on the tool rack. Everything else is for blowing debris. I actually have some delays in my tool change macro that I plan on shortening soon to speed up toolchanges.
Sir how to calibrate auto tool change ... I am searching a lot but i am not getting a proper video will u please tell me how to calibrate or any video that u are referred to calibrate auto tool change
Heyy u r using parking ATC I want to know the gripper of the tool holder that u used is which company making that gripper can u tell me?? The company name of these gripper??
Hi there! How much does this spindle weigh? Just arrived 5,5kw one... I ... think it a little bit overweight for my gantry... :-))))))))))) Gonna redraw some parts before production...
Did you use the original VFD that came with the X6 to control the ATC spindle? Or was that upgraded as well? What is the input voltage if your VFD? Awesome build!
How is the air compressor holding up? I just bough a JGL-100 spindle 3.2kW ATC spindle with BT30 interface, and I am not sure what size air compressor to get. I found some other references for a similar spindle and it was stated that the air seal that requires 1-2 bar air pressure and will use at least an air flow of 65 liters/minute. Does the air compressor have to run constantly during machining time? Combined with the mist cooler it must require almost 80-90 liters/minute?
were the macros for the toolchanges available to download and modify ,or did you write your own?. i have upgraded my chinese router to uccnc with the uc300eth-5lpt controller an ucbb and plan to add an atc spindle.
Really awesome work there and thanks for sharing. What Pump do you use for the spindle cooling, I have gone the same way for benefit of enclosed system but currently only have the cheap pump that came with the cheapo PC cooling kit, I don't run the spindle for hours. I have a valve controlling the air to a mist system but I do also like the idea to choose just air instead.
I'm using a D5 pump however it seems to be struggling, I plan on trying a dual SC600 pump configuration which should give me much better head pressure.
Your machine is very industrial and powerful looking, but seeing the setup, I think it’s awesome but I would be overwhelmed setting all that up. Ordered a stepcraft maxed out basically. I hope it is awesome, it seems awesome. I really just wanna do wood.
Lots of idea's to borrow for my rebuild! Do you have a link to the tool height setter? Do you also have the i assume aliexpress link to the tool holders?
For the cover - why don't you just take apart a broom/maybe a silicone version and pass the tool holders through, or just take a flat piece of rubber/silicone/TPU and slit it up so that the holders pass and are wiped when you pass them through
That's a neat idea however I'm worried that debris attached to the brush may find themselves on the tapers. A flap that's pushed up with the tool rack is what I plan on doing, just need to find the time to design and machine the assembly.
Interesting .... but have a ton of questions... can you pls give me and other top down over view... I like to see the following explained... a quick overview of the phneumatics...what is the basic must ...interms ofvalues lines to atc...what solenoids you used what switches relays used... 2. What the electrical wiring ti the bob required... 3... a overview what marco used and where Pls be the frist to explain this one youtube
Absolutely, the machine is still a work in progress. For example, the ATC spindle has PNP sensors in the cylinder that indicate what position the Piston/Drawbar is in, great for avoiding crashes if there is some issue with the compressed air (life if I forgot to turn it on lol). Same goes for the tool rack piston, it also came with sensors. I don't want to remake videos so once the machine is closer to it's final form I'll make these in-depth videos. I might release my macros much sooner.
maybe you mentioned it and I missed it but what size collet system are you using? I'm wanting to use an ER20 on my machine but can't find an ATC smaller than ER25. yours looks like it may even be ER16. thanks for the vid.
Nice work on the sliding rack!! What model SMC pneumatic cylinder are you using? Does this cylinder incorporate any type of position sensors? Thanks, David
I bought the SMC used on eBay, model is NCDQ2A32-100DC-A. It came with position sensors models D-A72, getting them wired up and editing my macros to use them is on the to-do list. I've had a few instances already where my compressor wasn't turned on and the toolholders wouldn't release, the spindle has it's own position sensors that I'm planning on wiring and integrating as well to avoid this in the future.
@@davidbuchhauser1488 Great to hear, I just ordered some SMC D-A73 proximity sensors which should wire straight into my UB1 breakout board, I've also been thinking about a longer stroke piston to let me design a bigger flap for covering the tool holders
Haha, sorry never made a list, only documentation are these videos. Let me know what you're most interested in I'm thinking of doing a separate video for each aspect of the machine (electronics, pneumatics, motors, software, etc)
wouldn't call it precision (I actually have some drawings and ideas for making my own) but in the video I'm using this one that I'm happy with: www.aliexpress.com/item/4000180543028.html Note that I ordered a second one from them a month ago and haven't even received a tracking update yet. There's a lot of sellers for the same version of the vice so maybe shop around. edit: I saw your book press video before, enjoy your content a lot :)
@@NikitaLab thanks, ye I saw that vice but didnt like it too much and there is no downward clamping pressure to stop the moving side from lifting. Really want to find a proper milling vice low enough to be used with the chinese style cnc's. All the Kurt's etc are huge in height. In your earlier video I saw that you did have quite a large one fitted on the omio. I'm close to biting the bullet on the UC300ETH as I want to stop using this crappy cracked version of mach3 that comes with omio. Hoping to see more videos from you too!
@@ThisDesignedThat yeah I wish it would clamp down, but in my opinion the bushings are tight and don't lift too much, within a few thou across the part. I'd say it's easier to over-tighten a plate for instance and cause a bow that'll measure worse. The painters tape, super glue method I've been using a lot more, don't have to deal with leaving tabs on my parts and can run a nice finishing pass on the outside contour. UCCNC has been great, highly recommend it if you have the time and money to set it all up. I learned a lot and it's a great feeling to not have the software and controller be the weakest link anymore.
@@ThisDesignedThat m.facebook.com/groups/1868624623404111?view=permalink&id=2760152310918000 I have developed a 2 piece adjustable vice for the 6040 common machine clearance issue. You can essentially move either the front or rear stationary jaw to accommodate bigger or smaller material. Once adjusted and the part is clamped you can then tighten down the movable jaw to the t slot table to circumvent the lift issue if any. I have produced these for sale with dedicated t nuts and hardware.
Hello, I have been looking on CNC Zone for Nikita's posts on this ATC setup, I can't find him or any info, can someone point me in the right direction, thanks. Ed
Once I put the pneumatic system in it's own enclosure I'll be sure to make a more comprehensive video on it. Got any specific questions or things you want me to go over other than the pneumatics?
It's the FBFT03 from Barrow/Barrowch, got it off AliExpress. Something isn't right with mine (not setup properly, not enough flow, defective) because it shows 0 flow even with a second pump added to the loop. Can't recommend it until I do some more troubleshooting and testing.
Here's the company website: www.jian-ken.com/automatic-pneumatic-tool-change-spindle-motor/jgl-80-1-5kw-2-2kw-2-5kw-24000rpm-40000rpm.html I ordered the JGL-80/1.5R24-20
@@NikitaLab Thanks! I ordered a 2.2kw spindle without tool changer. I was reading for machining soft metal the 0.9 Nm torque wasn't great but this one does close to 0.6Nm... how are you finding it? love your setup!
@@mauriziob5944 It's been fantastic, IMO judging by the amperage of the spindle and my cuts I'm very far away from reaching the limits of this spindle. I process aluminum enclosures, sheet, etc. never am I having to remove large amount of material (yet). I would expect to reach the mechanical limitations of my CNC frame and steppers far sooner than the spindle's.
It's the JGL-80/1.5R24-20 www.jian-ken.com/automatic-pneumatic-tool-change-spindle-motor/jgl-80-1-5kw-2-2kw-2-5kw-24000rpm-40000rpm.html JGL-80 for 80mm, 1.5 for 1.5kw, R24 for max 24k rpm, and 20 for ISO20 taper
@@luisFelix deff a problem, since the macros are c# it seems possible to make M6 write a tx file for current tool and read it to bypass UCCNC not saving tool# on close. That's one way to do it. I also wired the spindle sensors to the controller, if my macro detects tool holder inside when there shouldn't be it doesn't proceed with macro and errors.
@@luisFelix I may have an old version that I can send you but I've actually been working on selling it, rewriting the code, documentation, making screenset changes, etc. We can talk about what you'd like to see in the code to make it work for a rotary tool changer
Completely dependent on the OD of your spindle and the VFD the manufacturer pairs with the spindle. I selected 80mm OD to match the existing mount; wish I went with the larger 100mm for their 30-40K RPM models. The E550 VFD had existing UCCNC plugin support.
@@NikitaLab we have an x8 that has been remanufactured with stainless steel for rigidity. Next step is to get ALL of our machines running the same routers so tools are entirely interchangable. I'm a bit spooked on the VFD aspect but we need to chew out stainless steel and that's the only way were getting the low end HP to do so
MDR-060D2 solid state relays. They’re DIN rail mount and you can source an optional power distribution strip for joining some of the terminals together.
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I just purched iso20 tool holder, .001mm, 40,000rpm, delivered to Canada, under $20CDN, in 10 days, ER20 version. Very high quality 😊
well done! i really admire your ingenuity.
Very impressed with your build. Datron has a router with tools housed inside a box with a flip open cover that works when tool change time.
another idea. Maybe try mounting a big brush the entire length of the gantry it brushs over the collet holders cleaning them off as it travels back to pick up another tool. And if they are long enough it will protect them from debris while you are cutting.
Set your tool up close to the same length and put your coolant in front of the tool facing toward your tool storage rack. To keep coolant and chips off the tool storage rack, add a flip door to the front of the tool storage rack that opens when it moves forward. It will just be mechanical in design, it will pull itself up and back as the tool rack moves forward to clear spindle.
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Amazing! Well done.
I have appreciated you sharing your UCCNC/ATC build. It has been very helpful. I am looking forward to the next installment and hope that you publish sourcing of parts used. It would be helpful as I am building a new control box to upgrade to UB1/vfd/S30 ATC/etc for my router. Thanx!
great to hear, I've been procrastinating on making a thread somewhere to document my build a little better but I've been enjoying making these videos. Perhaps in the upcoming weeks I'll make a set of videos going over my macros and the few things I learned about writing them, I'm sure that'll help a bunch of people.
Big hug from Perú. I would really love a video step by step on the how to ATC a normal CNC. That would the first video of its kind I guess. Haven't found any yet.
That is a VERG impressive setup.
Very interesting video. And great job on your build!
I do have 2 ideas for considering, regarding your issues.. for tool rack: mount small angles with rollers on each side of that aluminum extrusion, that way you mechanically simple solve the same side distance caused by any irregularities that centered/single SMC might cause.
2nd idea is for the tool rack cover which would just be using plexy (or similar) plate of same hight as rack, 'folding' down when rack 'pushes' it ( plexy attached to two pivot points on both sides, self closing with spring, when rack retracts).
Your electronics look good too man I'm low-key jealous lol 😆 I'm in the process of my making my CNC machine and I have my linear rails coming I'm going with MGN12H on the y axis and HGH25 rails on the X Carriage and Z Axis
as a former purchaser , stress the former part , Technics collets are always been fine quality imo - love your presentations, hope you keep them up
Just a thought maybe you should install some stops infront of each side of the linear beaings on your tool changer so you can adjust the stoping position and it you could correct it from being out of alignment with the gantry.
Now that was impressive, well done.
Wow very Nice set up
I am a Diemaker and i love its.
Great work! This is really impressive
Good work man!
Looking forward to more info. I have nearly the same setup (uccnc and a ATC spindle) and have been wanting to make a tool rack. Please share the macros :)
that tool rack moves very fast. i would either reduce the air pressure or (if you need that pressure to keep the rack in place) put some valves in the airlines that restrict the flow and slow down the rack.
Less fast is less fun. There’s 2 sensors in the cylinder for position. Macro waits for the signal when cylinder is fully extended before proceeding. The tool holder clips are very strong so that helps as well. I’m thinking of a redesign where the tool holders are dropped into pockets instead, I’ll probably have to slow it down for that.
Hi Nikita, great job you did with the setup and the programming. I have a almost similar setup but have not started with the tool holder. I can share my UCCNC macros as well, like for probing with angular rotation. Please let me know.
BR
Michael
Bravo, tu as fait un excellente travail
Pretty interesting, thanks for sharing this project
Nice! My Radiator is on the gantry. That reduces the probability for leakage. 😊 A damping for the tool holder eject cylinder would be maybe good.
I'd be worried about the radiator and pumps moving with the gantry, also debris can get so bad I still have to clean up my radiator which is inside the table under the machine, can't image how dirty it would get under the gantry. Also a damper for the eject is a great idea, I'd be able to adjust it so that the release is more in sync with my retract from the tool clamp to avoid strain. Thanks for that
@@NikitaLab Watch my Videos :-) I have it on top not under the gantry 🥰
Fantastic job I want to upgrade my cnc too..
It's nice to see that low cost uccnc is capable of all of this.
It's really powerful, the C# for macro programming is really nice. The only feature that is still missing would be S curve acceleration for larger router machines but they said they're working on it.
@@NikitaLab can it do rigid tapping.
@@Z-add lmao absolutely not, to start there's no encoder on the spindle (it's not a servo) and it's a high speed router spindle, doesn't have the rpm range or torque for rigid tapping. I do have some threadmills ready for some practice cuts just haven't had a part that needed them yet.
Amazing Nikita, the way you have done this ATC is exactly what I'm trying to achieve. Would you kindly share your Macro with me please? Thanks Paul
Dude Your a genius!! I never thought my 3040 could have this!! What type of attachments are you using for that? I have a 1500 watt watercooled spindlle wit ha 4 axis 3040.
You've got a life time subscriber! Can you break down how you set up the calibration for a beginner?
Thank you!
There's a lot to break down, anything specifically you want me to go into detail?
Hi Nikita, how are you ? Great work with your build. Thanks for sharing. I just got the same spindle you have and I’m getting ready to setup my ATC in UCCNC, I’m not new to the software but new to ATC setup with the software and I would greatly appreciate some help. Would you mind sharing or Selling your M6 macro for the ATC and any other resource links you think can help me out? Thank you.
Nice work very cool setup
Great job. What Spindle brand did u use. I just got my first cnc machine and i need to upgrade my spindle to atc
Would you mind sharing your macro or selling it? I have the same machine and same spindle. Would love to test please.
Did you get a reply?
@@samrix5793 sadly no.
@@annaarze603 did you get this sorted?
@@samrix5793 yes thank you , got a new controller.
@@annaarze603 what did you go for? I've got a ddcs v3.1 on a 6040 really want to upgrade to an atc single though
Really impressive setup but I can't imagine the cost of just that pneumatic spindle and controller compared to the entirety of the machine.
Must be huge having seen those spindle prices.
yeah it's one of my more expensive hobbies
Awesome! Thank you so much for forging the way forward with this and documenting it. I had been waiting for this video and thought you might never make it! How do I contact you with questions ?
You can ask me here or message me with your questions, otherwise I'll most likely be making a thread on either CNCzone or some other forum where I write/draw things out and can answer questions there.
@@NikitaLab lets start with a pneumatic schematic of atc spindle and your tool rack
The motor is not pushing in the middle, so the bar holding the tools us default pushed , if not replace the pneumatic cylinder more to the side where the deviation is.
Can you please tell me what spindle model you are using and where you can buy one? Thanks. Great informational video.
Very impressive, I have the same spindle and controller, could you possibly post some links to the bits and pieces you used for operating the ATC function. I would be glad to support on patreon or something for some help with my setup.
@NikitasLab hey man I was wondering if you would be able to make a BOM for the components your ATC air assist system is made up of the names of the parts with pictures maybe? I've never really known what make up those systems and would like to make one myself. Any insight in how the whole system is made would be great 👍 Thanks
Hi Nikita, got here through the review video from Fox. Very interesting to see your setup in detail, great video. 👍 Decided to order the same spindel as you are using.
Do you have a list somewhere of the components you used and where to order?. Like the watercooling components and pneumatics?. Thanks in advance!.
How much air does the compressor really need to provide for the ATC? I've read 90 PSI at a run rate of 5 CFM. In the videos I am watching, it only seems to need the 90 PSI during a tool change event. Seems like the 5 CFM requirement is overkill...
Dude this is awesome!
good work
What are those digital read out gauges on your tubes? They're so sick 🤢 I gotta havem on my CNC machine
love your clip and thanks u so much. i have same project, can you share me the macro code ATC , I will refer to everything from it
Can you include a link to where you are getting theeiso20 ER16 tool holders for $20. I would really like to try them.
I'm with Anna. Would mind sharing the Macro or Selling it?
Cool project and great video, I really appreciate all the info!
Audio level is great now, thanks!
Anything you would care to say about selecting a spindle? Looking like for general milling and drilling of aluminum, brass and steel, a low speed range and higher torque would be most useful if wanting to (for example) run a 1/2" / 12mm drill or a face mill (though that may be out of range for this mill). What tool diameters and speed ranges do you use most commonly, please?
Would a check valve on the coolant at the tank be useful, to help prevent coolant from draining back from the lines?
Planning a chip / coolant catch tray or enclosure?
Seems like using larger tubing and shortening it by placing the solenoid valves as close as possible to the head would provide faster response on the pneumatic lines.
Most of my tooling ranges from 1mm (a 2flute for touching u corners in aluminum panels) up to 6mm, high RPM. I've seen custom builds of low RPM spindles using servo motors belt-driving BT30 ATC heads, that would be my path if I wanted to DIY a mill.
Check valve for the watercooling isn't necessary, the pump is at the bottom so it's never starved and after a few seconds most of the air is back in the reservoir.
I'm currently designing a spoilboard that'll allow me to install side panels to it, keeping most of the chips contained. Flood is something I did on my old router and it's not worth the hassle IMO. A strong air assist and misting system should give me good results in aluminum, and I've been machining more plastics and woods recently.
The pneumatics aren't very air hungry, the system is very responsive with mostly 6mm tubing. The only "mission critical" air components are the 2 pistons, 1 inside the spindle for the clamp and 1 on the tool rack. Everything else is for blowing debris. I actually have some delays in my tool change macro that I plan on shortening soon to speed up toolchanges.
Sir how to calibrate auto tool change ... I am searching a lot but i am not getting a proper video will u please tell me how to calibrate or any video that u are referred to calibrate auto tool change
Heyy u r using parking ATC I want to know the gripper of the tool holder that u used is which company making that gripper can u tell me?? The company name of these gripper??
Can you give specs of that spindle? Which model is it?
exelente maquina y componentes le tienes de todo pero lo mas elegante te felicito solo tienes que hordenar mas los cables, le envidio la UC300
Hi there! How much does this spindle weigh?
Just arrived 5,5kw one... I ... think it a little bit overweight for my gantry... :-)))))))))))
Gonna redraw some parts before production...
Did you use the original VFD that came with the X6 to control the ATC spindle? Or was that upgraded as well? What is the input voltage if your VFD? Awesome build!
Using the SimPhoenix E550 that came from the factory with the spindle, I'm feeding it split phase 220v.
How is the air compressor holding up? I just bough a JGL-100 spindle 3.2kW ATC spindle with BT30 interface, and I am not sure what size air compressor to get. I found some other references for a similar spindle and it was stated that the air seal that requires 1-2 bar air pressure and will use at least an air flow of 65 liters/minute. Does the air compressor have to run constantly during machining time? Combined with the mist cooler it must require almost 80-90 liters/minute?
were the macros for the toolchanges available to download and modify ,or did you write your own?.
i have upgraded my chinese router to uccnc with the uc300eth-5lpt controller an ucbb and plan to add an atc spindle.
Did you get all the Pneumatics from one vendor as a kit or did you source the bits separately?
Can atc be added to any spindle??
Hi what spindle brand are you using
Really awesome work there and thanks for sharing. What Pump do you use for the spindle cooling, I have gone the same way for benefit of enclosed system but currently only have the cheap pump that came with the cheapo PC cooling kit, I don't run the spindle for hours. I have a valve controlling the air to a mist system but I do also like the idea to choose just air instead.
I'm using a D5 pump however it seems to be struggling, I plan on trying a dual SC600 pump configuration which should give me much better head pressure.
Beatifull machine... I would like to know which software and controller are you using.
UCCNC with UC300 in a UB1 breakout board
Who makes this ATC spindle?
Your machine is very industrial and powerful looking, but seeing the setup, I think it’s awesome but I would be overwhelmed setting all that up. Ordered a stepcraft maxed out basically. I hope it is awesome, it seems awesome. I really just wanna do wood.
Building the machine is the fun part, of course it can also make some nice parts.
Beautifull machine... I have 3 chinesse machines different sizes, i would like to add the ATC. what you could recommend to me. thanks
Lots of idea's to borrow for my rebuild! Do you have a link to the tool height setter? Do you also have the i assume aliexpress link to the tool holders?
Hello Nikita, what brand is your vice? Where did you order this from?
Have you considered using a california air tools compressor? Its crazy quiet. Great for running my router in my office.
Absolutely, having one of their 4HP units would be great.
For the cover - why don't you just take apart a broom/maybe a silicone version and pass the tool holders through, or just take a flat piece of rubber/silicone/TPU and slit it up so that the holders pass and are wiped when you pass them through
That's a neat idea however I'm worried that debris attached to the brush may find themselves on the tapers. A flap that's pushed up with the tool rack is what I plan on doing, just need to find the time to design and machine the assembly.
Hi! Any update videos on this machine?
same concept for probing with 4 axis setup instead of the vice? and get the offset value from center of chuck to the probe?
Interesting .... but have a ton of questions... can you pls give me and other top down over view...
I like to see the following explained... a quick overview of the phneumatics...what is the basic must ...interms ofvalues lines to atc...what solenoids you used what switches relays used...
2. What the electrical wiring ti the bob required...
3... a overview what marco used and where
Pls be the frist to explain this one youtube
Absolutely, the machine is still a work in progress. For example, the ATC spindle has PNP sensors in the cylinder that indicate what position the Piston/Drawbar is in, great for avoiding crashes if there is some issue with the compressed air (life if I forgot to turn it on lol). Same goes for the tool rack piston, it also came with sensors.
I don't want to remake videos so once the machine is closer to it's final form I'll make these in-depth videos. I might release my macros much sooner.
@@NikitaLab pls give a wuick over eg...pneumatic...you need this and this...more details to follow...
@@NikitaLab I would live that! Please do share the macro if possible, I use my machine with manual tool change and this would be great addition 🙏🙏🙏
maybe you mentioned it and I missed it but what size collet system are you using? I'm wanting to use an ER20 on my machine but can't find an ATC smaller than ER25. yours looks like it may even be ER16. thanks for the vid.
They're ISO20 tool holders that come in ER16 and ER20, most of mine are ER16.
Hey dude I from Brazil, I’m amazing about your video, would you have the code ATC for download ? And wich controle did you used ? Mach 3 ? Thanks
Nice work on the sliding rack!! What model SMC pneumatic cylinder are you using? Does this cylinder incorporate any type of position sensors? Thanks, David
I bought the SMC used on eBay, model is NCDQ2A32-100DC-A. It came with position sensors models D-A72, getting them wired up and editing my macros to use them is on the to-do list. I've had a few instances already where my compressor wasn't turned on and the toolholders wouldn't release, the spindle has it's own position sensors that I'm planning on wiring and integrating as well to avoid this in the future.
Thanks Nikita!! I bought a slightly larger version of the SMC used on Ebay. It works great!David
@@davidbuchhauser1488 Great to hear, I just ordered some SMC D-A73 proximity sensors which should wire straight into my UB1 breakout board, I've also been thinking about a longer stroke piston to let me design a bigger flap for covering the tool holders
hi great videos. do you have a parts list for everything you've done to your machine and a wiring diagram you are willing to share.
Haha, sorry never made a list, only documentation are these videos. Let me know what you're most interested in I'm thinking of doing a separate video for each aspect of the machine (electronics, pneumatics, motors, software, etc)
Excellent work, do you have any suggestions for a precision vice that works well with the omio?
wouldn't call it precision (I actually have some drawings and ideas for making my own) but in the video I'm using this one that I'm happy with: www.aliexpress.com/item/4000180543028.html
Note that I ordered a second one from them a month ago and haven't even received a tracking update yet. There's a lot of sellers for the same version of the vice so maybe shop around.
edit: I saw your book press video before, enjoy your content a lot :)
@@NikitaLab thanks, ye I saw that vice but didnt like it too much and there is no downward clamping pressure to stop the moving side from lifting. Really want to find a proper milling vice low enough to be used with the chinese style cnc's. All the Kurt's etc are huge in height. In your earlier video I saw that you did have quite a large one fitted on the omio. I'm close to biting the bullet on the UC300ETH as I want to stop using this crappy cracked version of mach3 that comes with omio. Hoping to see more videos from you too!
@@ThisDesignedThat yeah I wish it would clamp down, but in my opinion the bushings are tight and don't lift too much, within a few thou across the part. I'd say it's easier to over-tighten a plate for instance and cause a bow that'll measure worse. The painters tape, super glue method I've been using a lot more, don't have to deal with leaving tabs on my parts and can run a nice finishing pass on the outside contour. UCCNC has been great, highly recommend it if you have the time and money to set it all up. I learned a lot and it's a great feeling to not have the software and controller be the weakest link anymore.
@@ThisDesignedThat m.facebook.com/groups/1868624623404111?view=permalink&id=2760152310918000
I have developed a 2 piece adjustable vice for the 6040 common machine clearance issue. You can essentially move either the front or rear stationary jaw to accommodate bigger or smaller material. Once adjusted and the part is clamped you can then tighten down the movable jaw to the t slot table to circumvent the lift issue if any. I have produced these for sale with dedicated t nuts and hardware.
Very nice work, maybe you could set up small company making this product?
I'm busy enough as it is with my current business lol. Might have something for sale by the end of the year 😉
Hello, I have been looking on CNC Zone for Nikita's posts on this ATC setup, I can't find him or any info, can someone point me in the right direction, thanks. Ed
Great video, could you elaborate on the bits needed to operate the tool changer I just got one of these spindles my self
Once I put the pneumatic system in it's own enclosure I'll be sure to make a more comprehensive video on it. Got any specific questions or things you want me to go over other than the pneumatics?
@@NikitaLab It would be awesome to see how you set up the code to make the spindle find the tool holder and do the change . Manny thanks for videos.
Great video, were did you get the stand for the 6040???
From Ikea, it was in like their kitchen section for carts, $100. Plan on bolting it to the wall somehow since it's not rigid at all.
where do i find this project?
Hi Nikita, just wondering what ATC model you are using ?
Can you do with just touch probe above the work piece instead of 2 ?
I am using mach3 working on the m6 toolchange macro
Where did you get your Flow meters?
It's the FBFT03 from Barrow/Barrowch, got it off AliExpress. Something isn't right with mine (not setup properly, not enough flow, defective) because it shows 0 flow even with a second pump added to the loop. Can't recommend it until I do some more troubleshooting and testing.
any links how to build the ATC??
What spindle did you buy that was compatible with this? Do you have a link?
Here's the company website:
www.jian-ken.com/automatic-pneumatic-tool-change-spindle-motor/jgl-80-1-5kw-2-2kw-2-5kw-24000rpm-40000rpm.html
I ordered the JGL-80/1.5R24-20
@@NikitaLab Thanks!
I ordered a 2.2kw spindle without tool changer. I was reading for machining soft metal the 0.9 Nm torque wasn't great but this one does close to 0.6Nm... how are you finding it? love your setup!
@@mauriziob5944 It's been fantastic, IMO judging by the amperage of the spindle and my cuts I'm very far away from reaching the limits of this spindle. I process aluminum enclosures, sheet, etc. never am I having to remove large amount of material (yet). I would expect to reach the mechanical limitations of my CNC frame and steppers far sooner than the spindle's.
hi please, can you say me the name or number part of that spindle?? THANKS
It's the JGL-80/1.5R24-20 www.jian-ken.com/automatic-pneumatic-tool-change-spindle-motor/jgl-80-1-5kw-2-2kw-2-5kw-24000rpm-40000rpm.html
JGL-80 for 80mm, 1.5 for 1.5kw, R24 for max 24k rpm, and 20 for ISO20 taper
@@DMS20231 the email I communicated with is jk@jkspindle.com, the man's name is Wafer Chou
mm... put the tool z sensor on the tool sliding plate ? would it be less precise?
Yeah that's the big brain move I don't think repeatability would be off, lots new stuff done to the machine already
super, but teach me I also want to implement my new cnc with a tool change
Hi, great work!! One question, if you close and reopen uccnc you lost the current tool number?
Yeah it bothered me for a bit, was simple to fix just edited my M6 macro and now M6T0 returns the tool and goes home
@@NikitaLab ok, same problem here, I'm doing one umbrella atc and in case of lost power or close close uccnc I lost the current tool number..
@@luisFelix deff a problem, since the macros are c# it seems possible to make M6 write a tx file for current tool and read it to bypass UCCNC not saving tool# on close. That's one way to do it.
I also wired the spindle sensors to the controller, if my macro detects tool holder inside when there shouldn't be it doesn't proceed with macro and errors.
@@NikitaLab can you share that macro? Tks
@@luisFelix I may have an old version that I can send you but I've actually been working on selling it, rewriting the code, documentation, making screenset changes, etc. We can talk about what you'd like to see in the code to make it work for a rotary tool changer
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how hard was it to swap spindles and do the VFD on the Omio?
Completely dependent on the OD of your spindle and the VFD the manufacturer pairs with the spindle. I selected 80mm OD to match the existing mount; wish I went with the larger 100mm for their 30-40K RPM models. The E550 VFD had existing UCCNC plugin support.
@@NikitaLab we have an x8 that has been remanufactured with stainless steel for rigidity. Next step is to get ALL of our machines running the same routers so tools are entirely interchangable. I'm a bit spooked on the VFD aspect but we need to chew out stainless steel and that's the only way were getting the low end HP to do so
How thick is your gantry side plates?
15mm.
Friend what is software name
What do you use to control your solenoids?
MDR-060D2 solid state relays. They’re DIN rail mount and you can source an optional power distribution strip for joining some of the terminals together.
@@NikitaLab You sent a signal to the relay from the motion controller
@@leonsplaylife yes any of the digital outputs that sink to ground, 24V to the SSR
Operational but not showing it operating. Want to see it working
You want to see chips?
@@NikitaLab yes!!!!
at tool change disable the mist.
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Do you controll the VFD by modbus ?
Yup, using the modbusez plugin