I've spent like 4 hours on this fight on various tanks at 610-ish ilvl. Just can't dps the eggs down with any reliability and if brann is dps, the egg has more hp and brann still won't even reliably target to kill. I even set up dps specs (arms/ret/ww) and tried on those. I've been able to get him down reliably into the 40% range as dps (specifically ww because touch of death covers an eggs every 90 sec), and I even had a 29% run on ww, but ineveitably I would end up getting the bug where your roll didn't register and it angler's webs you from wherever you are (no matter where you rolled to get out of the web), throws you through the portals, and kills you. I figure I'll try again in 10-20 ilvls and see how it goes. I watched a video of a 564 ww doing it successfully, but I have no idea how because if I take a melee and a single tick of the dot, I die, and that's at 612 ilvl.
It's definitely a pretty tough fight for that ilvl, I was also struggling on my 612 warrior (though people have killed it sub 600 ilvl like you said) though it did seem doable, but it was so much easier walking in there on my 620+ Guardian/BDK
Use Brann as a healer. Eggs will have 6.5kk hp, and you also get some decent healing from the potions he drops. Like, dps brann was nerfed - using him will result in nothing but making eggs harder to kill. A potential scenario of killing the boss 30 secs faster isn't worth making triple as many attempts for the kill.
same. 608 prot warrior, i can only reliably get the eggs to 30% hp, and if one spawns it takes me such a long time to deal with that the other is probably half way spawned. i think i need to get my dps to about 425-450. I saw the same under leveled prot warrior kill it, but I noticed whilst they had lots of items low level they had two 63x trinkets, maybe they were super pulling their weight for dps? The warrior was doing 450 dps at 54x ilvl?!
Queen trinket is insane here, as prot warrior at least. You can execute eggs from 4m hp and save some of your cd's. Protection Warrior can also spell reflect fear in second phase, doing around 6% of boss hp in dmg.
im prot at 608 and i do about 350k dps with cds on the eggs, i just cant pop them in time to make this possible yet. is it mad queens mandate your talking about?
finally cleared ?? today on a 614 feral! i originally was trying on guardian but my damage was way to low to kill the egg consistently. if you're a low i level druid i recommend giving feral a try. i used a mastery flask and brans fire place buff for the 5% agility. i used healer brran at level 40 with porcelain arrowhead and amorphouse
do you have any explanation of your ui. The list of zekvirs skills is particularly useful i think (as you say to bait the frontal) . Does that same boss rotation work with other bosseS?
The bars are from an addon called BigWigs, though Deadly Boss Mods can do something similar if you prefer to use that. You can also get an extension to those addons in LittleWigs or DBM-Dungeons if you want to use them in mythic+ as well, so yes it works for both raid and dungeons!
What spec are you? Lightsmith with consecration nuke easily does this boss, on my 614 prot. I got rid of Blessed hammer also, you don't really need the damage reduction or the extra HP gen. HoTr is just more damage.
Like Mighty said, any sort of damage you can save for them would be very helpful, so stacking up a fully empowered consecrate as Lightsmith or even saving Eye of Tyr to hammer the egg itself would likely help out a lot. Might should also be up for maybe every other egg as well.
I just feel like everytime the cocoon spawns against the wall it's game over, because then he chain casts and won't move and I don't have any uptime on the egg. You said you had an easy time on DK but if spittle ever goes out i suddenly have to do 2.5m+ hps which seems pretty impossible. Any specific way to deal with that?
When Brann interrupts he always does it almost instantly, so if you ever see the cast actually continue you can just hit AMS and it prevents the debuff from applying to you. Alternatively if that's too fast of a window, you can always spec into AMS removing magic debuffs in the class tree which also works. In terms of cocoon spawns, I'd just say don't worry about boss uptime and just head over to the egg, just be careful if the frontal immediately follows the egg spawn and bait that first before moving to the egg. You'd definitely rather sacrifice boss uptime than egg uptime.
Yeah on my Pwar it definitely felt like I had to save pretty much everything to burst the eggs down, the one benefit though is you have so many stuns so if that add does spawn you can lock it down with stuns for an extra 6+ seconds which usually was enough to kill it.
The biggest tip is pooling damage, even if that means it makes your boss damage a bit lower. So as Guardian I would save things like Incarn and 6x Feline Potential stacks for the eggs specifically to allow me to burst them. Even then, some cases with bad boss ability baiting/timing the adds wouldn't die, which is where having a ST stun or extra interrupt is very useful, as it can buy you enough time to kill the add itself before it casts on you.
Brann healer is definitely great for DPS, personally though I tried him as both healer and DPS for my tanks and it definitely felt better with him on DPS, even with only rank 1 Brann abilities he was doing 25% of my damage or more.
Thank you!! Got him down to 26% and I didn't know about the web through the portals. I will def get him down soon. 614 WW monk
No problem at all, good luck with it!
@@Tactyks Thanks! I got it done :)
I've spent like 4 hours on this fight on various tanks at 610-ish ilvl. Just can't dps the eggs down with any reliability and if brann is dps, the egg has more hp and brann still won't even reliably target to kill. I even set up dps specs (arms/ret/ww) and tried on those. I've been able to get him down reliably into the 40% range as dps (specifically ww because touch of death covers an eggs every 90 sec), and I even had a 29% run on ww, but ineveitably I would end up getting the bug where your roll didn't register and it angler's webs you from wherever you are (no matter where you rolled to get out of the web), throws you through the portals, and kills you. I figure I'll try again in 10-20 ilvls and see how it goes. I watched a video of a 564 ww doing it successfully, but I have no idea how because if I take a melee and a single tick of the dot, I die, and that's at 612 ilvl.
It's definitely a pretty tough fight for that ilvl, I was also struggling on my 612 warrior (though people have killed it sub 600 ilvl like you said) though it did seem doable, but it was so much easier walking in there on my 620+ Guardian/BDK
Use Brann as a healer. Eggs will have 6.5kk hp, and you also get some decent healing from the potions he drops. Like, dps brann was nerfed - using him will result in nothing but making eggs harder to kill. A potential scenario of killing the boss 30 secs faster isn't worth making triple as many attempts for the kill.
same. 608 prot warrior, i can only reliably get the eggs to 30% hp, and if one spawns it takes me such a long time to deal with that the other is probably half way spawned. i think i need to get my dps to about 425-450. I saw the same under leveled prot warrior kill it, but I noticed whilst they had lots of items low level they had two 63x trinkets, maybe they were super pulling their weight for dps? The warrior was doing 450 dps at 54x ilvl?!
Queen trinket is insane here, as prot warrior at least.
You can execute eggs from 4m hp and save some of your cd's.
Protection Warrior can also spell reflect fear in second phase, doing around 6% of boss hp in dmg.
Great tips, that trinket would be absolutely amazing on this fight for anyone who has it!
im prot at 608 and i do about 350k dps with cds on the eggs, i just cant pop them in time to make this possible yet. is it mad queens mandate your talking about?
finally cleared ?? today on a 614 feral! i originally was trying on guardian but my damage was way to low to kill the egg consistently. if you're a low i level druid i recommend giving feral a try. i used a mastery flask and brans fire place buff for the 5% agility. i used healer brran at level 40 with porcelain arrowhead and amorphouse
do you have any explanation of your ui. The list of zekvirs skills is particularly useful i think (as you say to bait the frontal) . Does that same boss rotation work with other bosseS?
The bars are from an addon called BigWigs, though Deadly Boss Mods can do something similar if you prefer to use that. You can also get an extension to those addons in LittleWigs or DBM-Dungeons if you want to use them in mythic+ as well, so yes it works for both raid and dungeons!
what i level do you recommend being for this fight? as a guardian druid i have a lot of trouble dps'ing the egg down im 612 i level
I had a similar problem on my 612ish Pwar, I think for most players being 620+ is going to make this significantly easier.
I can’t kill the egg as a 621 Prot pally. Any tips or has any Prot pally done this solo??
What spec are you? Lightsmith with consecration nuke easily does this boss, on my 614 prot. I got rid of Blessed hammer also, you don't really need the damage reduction or the extra HP gen. HoTr is just more damage.
Like Mighty said, any sort of damage you can save for them would be very helpful, so stacking up a fully empowered consecrate as Lightsmith or even saving Eye of Tyr to hammer the egg itself would likely help out a lot. Might should also be up for maybe every other egg as well.
I just feel like everytime the cocoon spawns against the wall it's game over, because then he chain casts and won't move and I don't have any uptime on the egg.
You said you had an easy time on DK but if spittle ever goes out i suddenly have to do 2.5m+ hps which seems pretty impossible. Any specific way to deal with that?
When Brann interrupts he always does it almost instantly, so if you ever see the cast actually continue you can just hit AMS and it prevents the debuff from applying to you. Alternatively if that's too fast of a window, you can always spec into AMS removing magic debuffs in the class tree which also works.
In terms of cocoon spawns, I'd just say don't worry about boss uptime and just head over to the egg, just be careful if the frontal immediately follows the egg spawn and bait that first before moving to the egg. You'd definitely rather sacrifice boss uptime than egg uptime.
Awesome, thanks! Thumbs up.
No problem at all!
Man, the eggs feel nearly impossible to dps down reliably on prot war. Or my brann is too low, seems way easier on dps currently.
Yeah on my Pwar it definitely felt like I had to save pretty much everything to burst the eggs down, the one benefit though is you have so many stuns so if that add does spawn you can lock it down with stuns for an extra 6+ seconds which usually was enough to kill it.
How are you killing the egg that fast? I can barely kill it before the egg hatched. You comfortably nuked it.
The biggest tip is pooling damage, even if that means it makes your boss damage a bit lower. So as Guardian I would save things like Incarn and 6x Feline Potential stacks for the eggs specifically to allow me to burst them. Even then, some cases with bad boss ability baiting/timing the adds wouldn't die, which is where having a ST stun or extra interrupt is very useful, as it can buy you enough time to kill the add itself before it casts on you.
@@Tactyks I don't use any CDs except on the egg. Are you using your six stack on rip or bite?
Nah, saved every cool down I had, still not chunking it the way it shows in your video.
@@Oneirogos Always sending Rip since you can get a full duration of it on the egg before it hatches.
Bro this fight seems impossible
It was definitely more challenging than I expected!
Put Brann on healer, its free
Brann healer is definitely great for DPS, personally though I tried him as both healer and DPS for my tanks and it definitely felt better with him on DPS, even with only rank 1 Brann abilities he was doing 25% of my damage or more.