When a Su-30 Shot Down a F-35........................almost
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"Cougar lost it, turned in his wings."
Who ever wrote the original article has been watching too much Top Gun..
Bollywood Top Gun! 😀😇
I can't tell you how much we should all appreciate someone who does their research before reporting everything they read just to beat the rush for clicks.
Yeah, it's appalling in these days! :)
Well, they are payed more for not doing it than for doing it, so... Occam Razor and free market, I guess.
He is incorrect…..and a russian agent
Italian Fighter pilots like most NATO pilots are extremely professional. I knew the story was rubbish by the way the portrayed the pilot in the interview.
Good video millennium
Flankers do fly against F35s, it's called operation Red flag, it's an annual red vs blue war game held by USAF and many allied airforces attend to it, including Indian Airforce which gladly bring their hot toys around to measure them in action. The point is, whatever participating forces learn during the war game will be very very classified kind of information, and we would perhaps get to learn about those 30 40 years later and not any sooner...
PLUS, F-22s and F-35s are given very restricted roles that give their opponents an edge, for the sake of training of all involved.
Retiring due to being intercepted bay a Sukhoi is hilarious
If they hadn’t included that detail this story may be somewhat believable. But the idea that “Our jets are so spooky that we made a pilot retire after one intercept” is just insanely transparent propaganda.
You remember that day a SU30 intercepted a F35, and the pilot shit their pants, then called his mom, went to therapy, then left the Air Force and went into a deep depressive state? Also the Electronic Warface pod on the Sukhoi fried the F35 systems, and hacked its Fly by Wire sistem to turn it into a Cessna 172 and show anime into the Head Mounted Display! so real so real
Okkkkk
M7, hello from Mariupol, thank you for your videos. They are best non-biased videos in english on aviation and they both help me with foreign language and with my interest for military aviation.
This channel is great. Gus (the presenter) is no Russophobe. Very fair and balanced to all!
Mariupol? That raises so many more questions. What’s it like now. Is the city getting fixed up? How many of the original citizens stayed. Are you one of them.
Please tell us about life in Mariupol nowadays. It may be curious to know especially to foreigners (I am Russian so for me it’s more clear)
Расскажите о повседневной жизни в Мариуполе. Иностранцам тут может быть любопытно узнать из первых уст, как жителям Мариуполя живется.
@@MrOsetian it looked destroyed but I’ve seen bits of rebuilding going on. The interesting bit will be the people. A lot of people left before, during the invasion. Such a shame as Ukraine is a beautiful country.
The current artillery flattening of any area near the front lines and cities is heartbreaking.
Mauripol mobile network must be down or the person has been arrested for using non government approved words😂😂😂😂
The story is real. But it doesn't mention that right after this incident a NASA RAFALE appeared in the sky emerging from outer Space inside a beam of light. It was piloted by non other than the actual ghost of Kyiv, namely the cyborg clone of Chuck Yeager, and it promptly destroyed the Su30SM as well as 90% of the Russian Air Force using the infinite Meteor missile spam spell cast MBDA wizards use to summon more missiles from the depths of the warp (at the cost of their souls so kudos to them).
Italians were grateful and offered two thousand tons of traditional Italian cheese (of protected geographical status of course) to NASA, Dassault and MBDA, boosting the productivity of their engineers who now all use their hands to speak much more than before.
Putin was so angry.
I have seen this story brought up in YT comments numerous times. Unfortunately some people will accept pure propaganda fantasies without question and spread them as if they were factual. Even after pointing out the obvious flaws in the story, they still repeated it.
There was an original incident, that is known.
But it was completely classified, so we only had the initial gossip journalism reporting to go from. And those were scrubbed from the internet long ago. Leaving only the very uncertain re-tellings that has resurfaced later.
And AFAIK, no newsmedia outside of Estonia or Nordic nations reported it at all before the info blackout order slapped down.
The online article disappeared within hours at most and it was never in any "credible" media.
But from what i can recall, the basics are at least vaguely what this video said. Though 2 F-35s and noone ever said they were Italian.
But even if the only thing was that a Su-30 snuck up on them, that's still a monumental embarassment, and the manufacturers easily have the political influence to have such an incident buried.
But what really happened? Impossible to tell. USA and Nato were extremely insistent on completely sweeping it under the carpet however.
Same treatment as Northstream terrorist attack by USA.
@@DIREWOLFx75Jesus don't get me started on Nordstream....imagine an article 5 incident betweent NATO Allies...
@@DIREWOLFx75 There is no evidence Nord stream was attacked by the USA.
Funny how people like you are so brainwashed by Russian propaganda.
Believe it or not, NATO is fairly transparent. There is no need to hide this incident.
There have been many "embarrassments" related to the F-35 and none were covered up.
@@DIREWOLFx75you'd think some nations would cancel their orders if it was a failure of the f35
@@DIREWOLFx75 If Russia had an EW pod that could disable F-35s I'm pretty sure they would be the ones trying to scrub it from the internet while Lockheed Martin would be shouting it at anyone who would listen that they need another $100 million to fix the software
It's also highly unlikely a pilot would get PTSD just from seeing an enemy jet.
The reality is that this poor guy went to therapy because he kept trying to reboot the custom Linux distro derived operative system running his system with "sudo reboot" but systemd kept waiting for the stuck graphical enviroment process of his multifunctional displays (or probably CUPS, really..) to close.. forever.... so he had to disassemble one of the cockpit racks, and find and unplug and replug the electrical line coming from his APU in order to reboot the system...
He never even really noticed the russian guy who was simply there flying upside down over his cockpit holding a pen and paper board with a phrase written on it: "I know, I know Systemd sucks! Try with ctrl+alt+f3, login, and then "init 6" Tovarish!"
Few people will understand this, but the occasion was truly unrepeatable!
Huh? What was running his plane, a Rasberry Pi?🤣✌️
@@shaider1982 A Glorified Enough Raspberry PI running on a cluster of military grade high-rf resistant, PowerPC CPU... XD
With all the ground radars lining the Baltic, I don't think anyone could sneak up on anyone else if they were much above wavetop height.
*Laughs in RAS.*
The SU30 used Klingon cloaking device.
“I wonder too!” You are not the only one.
This story was related even by sources I thought of as reliable, but I never could believe it. I mean how can you, as a pilot , be motivated enough that you get through selection and training to earn your wings, and subsequently operational status in one of the more important NATO jobs, but get PTSD that one time an adversary was _disrespectful_ to you?
"This was the first encounter between Italians and Russians..."
(...since 1943. 😁 )
Not even that😂 russians and italian encountered multiple times during the years and last was in the mediterranean Sea, where the italian sub longobardo trailed the russian convoy and published photos of the convoy being in the sight of the sub.
Military secrets of this nature would be classified at the highest level. Aid and comfort to the enemy is a very major transgression.
Thank you for your video. I have heard so many stories over the years.
Thank you for the time !!
I still don't know why so many are willing to believe such bogus articles. And so many are willing to peddle them, always fools to make money off of.
I love your journalistic integrity regarding such things. Too bad so many others don't have your integrity.
Love watching your videos, quite informative and your analysis is very good. Your Injection of humor from time to time is something other channels of the same genre, never does, yeah a little laughter makes the video presentation more fun and less boring. Hello, from your sub in the Philippines.
I love your look! And the video as usual - it's great! :)
Appreciate the video brother 🫡
Finally a decent analysis. Bravissimo!
Thanks
Thank you!
Yes it did. The Su-30 pilot's name was reported to be Mihaly Dumitru Margareta Corneliu Leopold Blanca Karol Aeon Ignatius Raphael Maria Niketas A. Shilage. Reportedly comms said he just wanted to understand the enemy.
AHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks!
Thank you!
Again well researched knowledgeble fact checking. Great!
Sempre belli gli appuntamenti storici, daje
Yet another important video. I have never been disappointed by any of your videos and I have learned much. People do not realize that there are many narratives that, in this case, are not generated as propaganda but, as you point out, by bad journalism. Then, these stories get passed on as truth. This is so nauseating yet it comes from our being human. Many Thanks!!
Sure, it may not have happened, but it could. Anything can occur in the midst of battle. If it is a Millennium 7 episode, I am forced to watch.
Ya me too lol
Otis has told me in no uncertain terms that if I don't watch Millennium 7 he will sneak into my apartment and leave it dirtier than it already is. 😀
@@minarchist1776 You should listen to Otis,
work of art shoots down an ugly bucket..... almost... Of course I am jesting - great video as usual - one of my favourite channels....
It’s the other way round😂😂😂
good journalism
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Thank you. I'm glad you are back. What kind of damage an ECM pod like Khybini could do in an aircraft? Is it just an interference on the sensors or could be something more serious like an Electromagnetic Pulse? I apologize if this is a really basic question.
Mostly interference, I believe
The F-35 was flying without a wingman?
This story was first told about a Grippen sneaking up on a Euro Fighter.
Liked by default
You're right about fighter pilots being tight-lipped. Many decades after the end of the Vietnam war I knew someone who'd been a Navy carrier pilot in that war. Long retired, he just been notified that he could now talk relatively freely about his experience in that war.
"the italian pilot after this encounter suffered from PTSD and his flight activity was terminated"
well that is millions of dollars wasted
Man i had my hopes high.......the title got my blood pumped up💀🤣🤣
The F-35 was flying without a wingman?
In this made up story it appears so
LMAO the PTSD thing got me 😂
the west is always like "these russian pilots performed a dangerous manoeuvre..." is code words for they had to fill in alot of paperwork
I found the news a year ago at least and sounded too good to be true.
Sources were mainly unreliable. Thanks for confirming that story.
You really hate the F-35!
Watch his other content. No hatred on this channel. He loves aircraft like we all do
Kme kme kme Žabar noises are getting louder
Kind of reminds of a certain ghost destroying 100's of Russian SU57's while flying a heavily modified paper airplane.
Those were mostly memes tho. But some Media outlets don't get that. Then there are certain Media outlets on the opposite site of the ghost who pushed that story and it's unrealistic claims to hide the fact there were huge losses by making their citizens believe any footage showing losses was part of some made up story. If you look it up you will probably find many more articles on that side then the other.
Nice beard man
Typical Russian "... and then the Westerner went to cry" story. I'm not even surprised. The Italian pilot got PTSD because a Russian pilot started doing maneuvers. These stories must be written by a 12-year-old
I surprised it didn’t then follow on he transitioned to a woman and went full woke
Oh ok..... American hubris is strong with this mouth breather
@@Statueshop297 Yeah, you are actually right
"These stories must be written by a 12-year-old"
That part wasn't in the original story though...
So someone basically tacked it on, probably without any actual knowledge.
This is not poor joirnalism but CLASSIC rudsian information campaign. Very similar to aegis ship in the black see. Now we can see the reality in the same place.
For me the most interesting one is s200 of syria allegedly shooting down f35. long story short, they thought they shot down f16 but no f16 were lost and after a while one f35 was scrapped as "bird damage" by israel this one is the most interesting is this true or not or if its even possible for such old s200 to hit f35. But i guess even older one hit f117 which has superior geometric stealth than f35.
Ooohh, that title needs work 👍
0:09 -change my mind. the model silhouettes over his left shoulder in order from left to right - su 35, f 35, f 15 -
F-15C, F-35B,F-15E
@@Millennium7HistoryTech mind changed
👍
And what about "Ghost of Kiev" story? It's totally not made up!
Absolutely true story. The West NEVER LIES, UKRAINE NEVER LIES AND USA ABSOLUTELY NEVER!.....LIES.
Ghost of Kiev was debunked within days of that video making the rounds, the creator of that vid even came forward and apologized
What about what about what about
Seriously what is it with you and what about ism? That topic has absolutely nothing to do with this video.
What does scramble mean in air force?
From the Battle of Britain (maybe) in 1940. Pilots hurry (scramble) to get in their planes and launch to intercept German air craft. I dont think the term came from WW1, but it might have done.
Launch of fighters to intercept a target or defend airspace, strategic bombers more sinister mostly a nuclear atack launch.
How could an ECM pod force and provoke reboot of the system of the F35 ???
Not....well except it somehow managed to corrupt the memory of the OS / some other hardware ... Causing a crash.... Mission critical systems will reboot by default if a crash happens...
Not impossible as something like emp exists but it is very very unlikely.
@@justacomment1657 F-35s, designed as nuclear weapon carriers for free fall ordinance, are EMP proof. Blows my mind that the Russian media is trying to make it seem like a 30-year-old aircraft with an electronic warfare pod that's already been captured and turned over to American and British military intelligence is going to, while operating in the electromagnetic spectrum, interfere with the electro-optical sensors of an aircraft in a different (more recent) generation 🤣 you definitely know it's Russian propaganda when they try to say that the Italian pilot cried or something
F-35 has long time problem whit computer system. Most countries that brought the brick whant software upgrade. Its old news.
Pilots reported numerous times of system freze.
It can't, the F-35 is a closed system. The Russians are relying on your ignorance and emotional response like always. There is no way that the passive electronic systems, which I interpret to mean the electro-optical arrays such as the omnidirectional IRST and the EOTS, which are again electro-optical systems, be affected by an electromagnetic system which is an electronic warfare pod. That and add to the fact that the same Russian electronic warfare pod was captured in Ukraine intact years ago and went to American and British military intelligence.
Tell us the same video of the ghost of Kiev
Ghost of Kiev was debunked within days of that video making the rounds, the creator of that vid even came forward and apologized
Russia even cannot beat Ghost of Kiev..
Dial “M” for maskirovka…
oh great... we all have fighter jets that are like easily hackable flying computers....
sounds to me like they abandoned the F35 after the 2021 incident and switched to typhoons
Not sure if that's a joke, but no, they did not "abandon" the F-35. It makes a substantial part of their tactical fighter fleet.
@ArizonaAstraLLC the reason given for why it couldn't have happened in 2022 is they had stopped using them. what do you think is normal about that, let alone funny?
@@mSparks43 mate, they stopped using them *_for that particular task at that particular point in time._* Italian F-35s are airborne all the time and you can verify this yourself online with flight tracker 24 or by photos posted. The Italians are some of the most experienced F-35 pilots and were amongst the first to declare them operational. They probably switched to Typhoons so their Typhoons could get experience. Italy operates different kinds of fighter aircraft.
@@ArizonaAstraLLC They abandoned using them for Baltic Eagle, or they didn't and it could have happened in 2022 eh, take your pick.
The Baltic mission is rotated between nato members doing a few months at a time. So no the same Italian unit is not going to be there for years at a time.
It’s published under Baltic air policing mission what countries have done it. Normally 4 aircraft, for 4 months then it switches.
There's so many news about F35s' software keep glitching/bugging. Also, there's recent news about a F35B crashing in New Mexico. That's not a good image especially for very expensive stealth jet.
Looks like epizode from Allo allo
I will say this only once
6th of december is saint Nicholas. Was probably Santa.
I know the "actual" story of Polish F-16's that reported that Russian escort planes of bigger VIP airplane were acting dangerously and performed some odd maneuvers. And that is all. If you hear anything more with more details, then it is likely rubbish and you at least need to check press releases etc. And yes, those incidents (because it happened more than once) were from Polish MoD release. I'm certain that Italian fighters did meet Russian fighters or possibly a bigger plane that was doing some mission, but that is literally all. If something more happened, you will either never hear of this, or you will hear much more from many more sources, because it will be officially published.
It must be a kind of revenge when the Egyptian Rafales turned off the radars of the Egyptian SU 30s during an exercise a few months earlier, that or like the destruction of the 250 Himars in Ukraine when they had less than around twenty. Russians are great jokers.
Says a bot whit one month old account 😂
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@@CROM-on1bz It is now well known that 'bots' consider that epithet to be highly defamatory and will always use 'robot' as a substitute 😀
Egypt doesn't even operate the Su-30 , nor the Su-35 .
So it's a pure joke
ghost of kiev.. another lie from the most corrupt govt in the world
1:05 I thought it was Baltic Air Policing - since other NATO members have to provide the 3 Baltic ministates air force. Since they do not have one.
Puts their vehement anti-Russian stance into perspective.
They also gave away a lot of the equipment they had. 😳
Good stuff. Thanks.
😂😂😂 They can try to jam the Radar but the biggest problem in the story they forget the F-35 have a IRST system that can track other jets beyond visual range, and you can't jam it.
Falco? Amadeus Amadeus 😸
🤣 I totally forgot!
the PTSD part indicated pure propaganda, the same template with Khibiny, Su-24 and an US destroyer
Exactly. Hilarious they expect us to believe that that pod is still valid years after it was recovered intact by a shot down Su30 SM and delivered with a bow on top to American and British military intelligence
PTSD... More like hurt ego...
Very much like the story several years ago when a Russian plane used ECM to shut down a US naval ship and the crew resigned when they got back to port. Pure fiction.
EXACTLY. The Su-24, the second most vulnerable of all Russian aircraft seemingly "turned the screens off" [not how radar jamming works] but wasn't able to jam a measly [in comparison to the floating missile array that is a Burke destroyer] F-16C Block 52 of the Turkish Air Force with an AIM-120C when it got shot down over an airspace incursion in 2018. Unbelievable what people will think.
@@ArizonaAstraLLCYes, it was the USS Donald Cook in 2017 that was supposedly attack. The whole incident was recorded by a consumer grade camcorder, which was totally unaffected. 🤣
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OT: I'm honestly surprised by how many RUclipsrs don't get even simple facts right. It's like Wikipedia doesn't exist in some countries (example India :p).
And education in america
It's like Wikipedia is inaccurate most of the time. I'd trust a flat earther before I trusted Wikipedia. 🤣
@@140theguy Wikipedia refers to other sources often primary sources.
@@HJJ135wikipedia often uses unreliable sources and is often very biased
wikipedia is extremely biased and you cant trust it in any way, shape or form anything involving politics or other non scientific topics. if its pure science, maths, physics, theoretical stuff - then yes. when its anything else - pure bias.
Look example after 2022 russian invasion the georgian-russian conflict was edited in such way that it looks like russians were the aggressors, while wayback machine and even reading the article further, sees that actually georgians were the first ones that attacked and killed russian personnel first.
5:14 Well obviously they didn't report any Su-30s being there, they couldn't find them because of their highly advanced EW systems! =)
Man, the stuff they come up with...
I wonder what happens when F35s (presumably from different countries) target eachother.
They won't. They all "talk" to each other.
Dude was so close to dying he had to resign🤣🤣 I fing doubt it. Can’t scare our pilots
🤦🏻
I just heard today, that the Chinese have developed some unique 'shark skin' technology, which is a genuine winning advance. More, please.
Shark skin coatings are fairly well understood. The American nano-scale additive manufacturing is largely focused on high-entropy alloys and embedded nanostructures. Given the current work on cermet nanocomposites, I assume that the titanium sharkskin was quickly replicated or already discarded.
Chinese propaganda seems to be doing this in the mid 2020s. Every few months they come out with some revolutionary new thing or with perfect timing 2 weeks after some country makes an announcement, they all of a sudden have the countermeasure. A technological advancement for rotating combustion engines from general electric was announced. China announced they get the same thing two weeks later. The B-21 was unveiled for its first flight. South China morning Post then claims that China already knows how to defeat it. The Chinese are very technologically advanced but this is just being ridiculous at this point
@@Er19421 The US advances are so far ahead, that a step made by the Chinese, are likely 5 years behind?
The reboot part sounds like a story made by amateurs
So it seems like DAS wasn’t working properly if the F-35 was indeed surprised by the Su-35.
It was a SU 30.
F-35 junk , blue screen , system was frozen , Press button: SHUT DOWN the computer.
after all the ghost stories of ukranian ace pilots, movie lines read out by fictitious soldiers on a snake island, & grannies who can through a can of soap at sub-sonic speeds, this story almost sounds true. i wouldn't blame anyone for believing this ...
Word. 😂
Unfortunately? He’s hot 😂
My question is how was this su35 able to Electronically jam the f35 so easly
probably moderate at best. Plus I wouldn't be surprised, since their ECM capability has been proven to be quite effective
@@Mgaming61 hell yeah
I can tell you two stories that might change the picture, since I read both of them in the American press:
a) During the war in Syria, the US were launching regular drone patrols along the border, for intelligence gathering. The drones in question were glider-like, jet-powered, low observability models (forgive me for not remembering the type, as well as many other details). During one flight, the drone operator noticed a grey shark-like nose emerging from the morning mist. It was a Russian Su-35, whose pilot had somehow been able to detect the drone.
The general in charge with the air operations there (again, apologies for not remembering his exact position and his name) said that he thought this was pure luck on the part of the Russian pilot - luck happens, but a few days later, in a different place and at a different hour, the Russian Su-35s intercepted his drone again.
The general said that he then knew this was not an accident, and the Russians were capable of something he did not expect, i.e. intercept a low-observability drone - which made me understand that that drone was not meant to be detected, even less so by a mere fighter jet.
b) During a patrol through the Black Sea, at the incipient phases of the conflict in Ukraine, a US warship (forgive me for a third time) was subjected to electronic warfare by a Russian plane flying above. The article did not specify the exact effect it had, though I've heard comments in well-informed circles that even the intercom stopped working. Same persons claimed it caused serious dissatisfaction within the crew for feeling like a sitting duck in waters close to Russia, with some personnel considering leaving the job.
Please remember that I read the two stories in the US press, except for the part where I indicated the different source. I dared mention this one, though, because I had access to this source (well-informed persons) BEFORE rgw news actually came into view, and I searched the story in the press precisely because of it.
These two incidents could give a certain credibility to the Baltic encounter, especially considering that, in line with today's mores, the article on the American warship also did not highlight the effects on the systems... or the morale.
Make of this what you will.
Can you point me to the press sources? This is interesting.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech I wish so much that I could, Mr. Millennium (do you have a name I could use to call you?), but as I said three times in my post, I didn't bother so many years ago to keep in mind the exact news channel with the foresight that I will need it many years after. I kept in mind the facts, not the media.
I can add that the Syrian encounter was treated just like a strange incident and that's it, without elaborating on potential measures the US took, or considerations being made.
I think the US warship was "Donald"-something. I also think the Navy warship incident could be found on Wikipedia (perhaps Google 'US warship jammed in the Black Sea), because I think I googled it myself and found something. However, if I remember correctly, the Wiki article was deprived of the juicy details, which no Armed Forces of the world would ever like becoming public - just as the F-16 vs. MiG-29 exercise in the newly unified Germany, if you know the incident - which I've seen confirmed, albeit rarely, and without naming the country. This too I found of from the same sources, and it had been a decade until I read confirmation (twice) of it.
I also remember the jamming airplane flew low, while another, heavily armed fighter jet flew higher for cover.
It abounded (the warship article, that is) instead in "unprofessional" and the like.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech I wrote a long answer and it didn't appear... :(
I will try writing it again.
I wish so much that I could, Mr. Millennium (do you have a name I could use to call you?), but as I said three times in my post, I didn't bother many years ago to remember the news channel with the foresight that I will need it many years after. I noted the facts, not the media.
I remember the Syrian incident was treated like a strange incident and that's it, without elaborating on potential US measures being taken or considerations being made.
I think the US warship was "Donald"-something. I remember the jamming airplane flew low, with another, heavily armed fighter jet flying higher for cover.
I think the US warship incident could be found on Wikipedia (perhaps google 'US warship jammed in the Black Sea'), because I think I looked it up myself and found something. However, if I remember correctly, the Wiki article was deprived of the juicy details, which no armed forces of the world would like ever becoming public - just like the F-16 vs. MiG-29 exercise in the newly unified Germany, if you know the incident. That, too, I found of from the same sources, and it was a decade until I read confirmation of it (only twice), and that without naming the country or any technical details.
The articles abounded instead (on the US warship, that is) in terms like "unprofessional" and the like. What do you know, there's no shame in war
A very interesting story irrespective of whether it is true or not.
I am more inclined to think of this story as imaginary because of two points which I think are relevant.
Although the F35 has been plagued with complications and problems but the nature of problems mentioned in the story seems highly unlikely. And two, a NATO pilot will not give out such embarrassing details to the press.
Also the Russia- Ukraine war has exposed a lot of operational flaws with the Russian Armed forces including its airforce. So I cannot bring myself to believe this story .
Ah english speakers. First they add K to any Russian word starting with H (like "Hibiny", and get "khibiny"), then they read those words with K (Kibiny)
Excellent Content.
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PTSD…I hope your joking
Similar disinformation was circulating around during that same time frame- only it involved a Russian aircraft performing low altitude passes over an American Aegis cruiser. The story goes that a Russian fighter performed several low altitude passes over the cruiser, and each time all the defensive measures and targeting systems would go dark until the aircraft withdrew. And just like this story the ship commander was relieved of duty resulting from this incident.
It was all proven to be Russian disinformation and amplification which used social media seeding operations and lazy news reporting practices.
did you hear about the recent f35 crash?
SU-57 fired in 2011 and Su-57 engine fire in 2023..
@@f-35lightningii6 🤣 i just said that cuz no sources have mentioned it. f35 is a brand new aircraft no duh its more capable in BVR u bot
@@f-35lightningii6 su57 is more capable than the f35 for air supremacy
@@albane2885 what happen? countries anyone no buy Russia SU-57 deadly, Turkey, India, Egypt, withdrawal from Russia SU-57 outdated 80's borrow technology from SU-27.. 😂😂😂
@@albane2885 F-35 upgrade '' D'' in 2030..
F-35 soon get AIM-260 BVR field test..
F-35 soon Mako hypersonic missile field test 2024..
F-35 soon get SiAW full operational 2026..
F-35 soon Joint Strike Missile full operational 2026..
SU-57 no match for F-35 upgrade new missile.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's not surprising that russian BS goes around! But didn't run into this story before.
Classical example of russian mentality.
I do follow their media and can prove that this story absolutely corresponds to their way of creating such stories.
Real-life examples:
They even reported a sea battle story with Sakartvelo 🇬🇪 navy ships at open sea, while it was documented on video how they were damaged and destroyed while anchored at the port.
Another one, like in 70's, the Israeli tanks faced the soviets testing their T-72's, and were destroyed by new soviet machines.
Never happened, widely reported.
Are you a pilot??
No
While it may not have happened as reported. If something of that nature did happen it would be covered up by Lockheed Martin and the US. Although it is made out as if the F-35 is untouchable it is in fact a fighter that is severely flawed and has a 29% readiness rate. Which completely downplayed. If however a Russian or Chinese fighter had the same readiness rate you would never hear the end of it. Perfect example media constantly speaks on how AL-51F1 was delayed, it went from clean sheet design 2010 to production in 2024 which is 14 Years. The F-119 design started in 1983 and first production engines were produced in 2000. Which is 17 years. The Western media controls narrative. Short of video proof you are not going to get negative news on the F-35.
Are you kidding me? Western media will not deliver you negative F-35 news? Across the political spectrum and a cross different platforms and sizes of platforms, from CNN to Trump's speeches to American defense journals like "The Warzone" and "Sandboxx News" ALL had *very negative* things to say about the F-35 basically the entirety of the 2010s
Well except for design wins in countries who can test it.
And that assumes famously open countries like Russia and China are clear on their capabilities. I mean t72s are good tanks and even better flying turrets
If it happened, it would logically not be reported by the Italians. History is dense with sides choosing to not report events where they are humiliated etc. It would have negative political and air crew consequences, whilst praising the 'adversary'.
The only strange question here was "why there are no traces of this in italian media?"
Things tend to disappear in the online world rather quickly... ;)
@@justacomment1657 Yeah, some disappear quickly, others might not even appear. The 1984 schmigital world we live in. 🤷♂️
IMO it's actually a little obnoxious talking to fighter pilots about their aircraft or their operations. They don't even come close to telling you anything, even (hell probably particularly) if you demonstrate any kind of knowledge on the subject. They don't even comment on open source stuff. The second you go beyond simple chatter or basic platitudes about the service or the aircraft, they leave you there. They don't know you & they sure as hell aren't interested in risking anything at all, just to educate or impress a stranger.
So this story stinks from top to bottom! The funniest part is what they said about the Italian pilot. He had PTSD from the event!?! LOL!!! If everything went exactly as planned, someone could have gotten PTSD, but it would have been a maintenance guy the pilot managed to corner & yell at for a few hours for giving him such a POS airframe - not the pilot himself XD
SU 30 doesn't have IRBIS yet. It'd be hard. But F-35 is only mission capable. Not combat.
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...Did you just say that it's mission capable and not combat capable? It's been demonstratedly used in combat, it works. Most of the issues are not because of technological incompetency but because of program management problems. Look at the Australians and the Norwegians, both rich countries with F-35s comprising of a significant amount or the entirety of their fighter fleets. They love them and don't have American style bureaucratic management, as well as incredibly streamlined maintenance since the Australians basically have the same maintenance because their super hornets and growlers are the same airplane for the most part, and then the F-35s. Then the Norwegians exclusively have an F-35 fleet. Yes, the F-35 is combat capable, the Israeli sure used it in cruise missile air defense for the past 7 months.
@@ArizonaAstraLLC It was not too long ago that forbes reported that although mission capable. Very few are combat capable. I guess they can deliver pizzas.