Josh Hill address Opiates in Motocross - Gypsy Tales Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 21 дек 2020
- The problem of Opiates isn't unique to the sport of Motocross and Supercross but with the rate at which it's participants are injured, there is certainly a cause for concern. This is especially true in some of the younger athletes who are at risk of losing rides and feel the pressure to either return from, or ride through injury.
As someone who has had massive crashes and injuries, Josh Hill knows first hand that they are a slippery slope!
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The Opiate situation with some doctors handing it out like candy and then others refusing even when it's needed sounds just like mental health doctors and Xanax. Some flood the streets, others won't give it to someone that needs it to function. So sad all around.
So correct, if you are in real pain morphine (heroin) will barely take the edge off.
even a bad toothache warrants a good dose, but good luck getting any at the chemist, they'll probably call the cops.
In fact, there is a worldwide shortage of morphine
take it from a junky who has done it like an 80's rockstar.
"Although morphine is cheap, people in poorer countries often do not have access to it. According to a 2005 estimate by the International Narcotics Control Board, six countries (Australia, Canada, France, Germany, the United Kingdom, and the United States) consume 79% of the world's morphine. The less affluent countries, accounting for 80% of the world's population, consumed only about 6% of the global morphine supply.[134] Some countries[which?] import virtually no morphine, and in others[which?] the drug is rarely available even for relieving severe pain while dying.[135]
Experts in pain management attribute the under-distribution of morphine to an unwarranted fear of the drug's potential for addiction and abuse. While morphine is clearly addictive, Western doctors believe it is worthwhile to use the drug and then wean the patient off when the treatment is over.[136]
"Tens of Millions Face Death in Agony;
Human Rights Watch found that in 35 of 192 countries reviewed, fewer than 1 percent of patients with moderate to severe pain from terminal cancer or HIV could get the strong pain medications they needed. These countries are concentrated in Sub-Saharan Africa, but some are in Asia, the Middle East, North Africa, and Central America.
Availability of strong pain medications is very limited in many of the world's most populous countries, Human Rights Watch found. At least 100,000 people die from cancer or HIV/AIDS each year without access to adequate pain treatment in countries such as China, India, Indonesia, Nigeria, Russia, and South Africa.
www.hrw.org/news/2011/06/02/global-tens-millions-face-death-agony
@@mattburnett4185 Ok puree
I had several doctors in palm beach FL that used to give me 240 30mg oxycodone pills with 60 2mg Xanax a month. That’s insane
@@JimmyR83 Yeah that is pretty insane. At the end of my run I had a pain Dr giving me 300 Oxy 15’s and 90 MS Contin 60’s every month for a good couple years. And of course the best I ever could do is make that last 3 weeks. Usually 2-2 1/2 weeks. So every damn month, like clockwork I’d be incessantly on the anti-sick hunt for the last week or two
Damn I do NOT miss that life
This could not have come at a more perfect time for me. You have no idea, thank you...
If you're struggling through something like this it isn't weak to seek out help mate. You only get one go at life so put yourself and your health first mate.
I was in recovery for addiction and almost 10 yrs clean when i broke my knee...told my doctor and everyone i was a recovering addict and still ended up abusing opiates.Stay strong my friend Ive been there!!! Need an ear hit me up if ya can. Much respect.
You got this man, been there too, but I made it and you can too, don't be afraid to get help or go to a MAT clinic! No shame in getting healthy!
I’m the one always helping other people it just feels weird to actually get help and not do something on your own. The guys who been through it know how hard the shit is but this really helps, thank you guys!
@@DJC3. Hey buddy, put yourself first on this one you deserve it. Lost my sister to addiction who was the same way. You got this
Moto is hush hush about everything. Drugs, salaries, gear deals, rides, race schedules, etc. At the end of the day it's just Motocross. It is by far the gnarliest sport out there and I love everything about it except all the secrets lol
Hopefully we can change that a bit!
yeah all the secrecy and sweeping things under the carpet has always bugged me, nice to see some of the riders starting to talk openly about some of the realities (good and bad) of the sport.
Gay
Really appreciate his honesty here. It's true what he said about the doctors giving pain meds, though it depends on the doctor. I work for an ER, and I've seen people shot multiple times and the doctor tells them to alternate Advil and Tylenol for pain. And I've seen other doctors give opiates for essentially a stubbed toe. Can't tell you how many addictions I've seen start with a legitimate Rx for a real injury. It's really sad, and it effects everyone to some degree.
I started with vicodin and ended up shooting dope years lster...I went from vikes to oxy contins then they stopped giving oc s in usa and I went to dope.now ive been addicted to suboxone and ive been trying to get off that know.im down to 2 mills a day.the whole thing is a terrible situation.
@Jonathan Spier ive been off subs almost 1 month now. Longest without any narcs or narcotic replacements in like 10 years. Im just worried sbout next timr i get a injury but ill just use cbd and alive ect
Hill is MX. Thanks for always being true.
Love it! All you can do is spread the word and give advice, I’ve been there I know it’s hard to break. You just have to honestly want it. Touchy subject and cool to see athletes talk about it
Well said man! Some people are more predisposed to addiction and once you're in the depths of it you have to want to get off it and be willing to ask for help. Thankfully it is becoming less taboo to talk about it, but we still have a long way to go.
Josh just wanna say your a real one for talking about it and not shadowing away from a tough and uncomfortable conversation. I’m in recovery and I raced motocross for years.
I like at the end when he said he didn't want to keep talking about it, it is a serious issue and I'm glad he talked about it as much as he felt comfortable. Very insightful podcast
Thank you for posting this conversation man.....I had a tough time after my broken femur......cannabis also helped me kick the opiates.....
If you did kick the opiates then good job!! Much respect bro!! I as well know first hand how hard it can be to kick that shit. Its not easy and i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy.
@@kurtisallingham7516 worst thing in the world is opioid withdrawal. i agree i wouldn’t wish that on my worse enemy either. from the cold sweats to the back pain, i broke my arm and my arm hurt so bad for almost two months, i had friends who were addicted, they had cold sweats dry heaving the pain, shits, and lots of other horrible shit. it’s the worse.
@Jonathan Spier I don’t know if u fully experienced it then. i’d say the withdrawal pain itself was worse then when the middle of my forearm was snapped in half and my wrist and hand was hanging below my arm lol. the cold sweats also taking off blankets, restless legs that hurt, sometimes dry heaving. the fukn yawns. I don’t know dude not much compares.
@Jonathan Spier dude cmon you’re joking right ppl die from seizures, and other shit when in withdrawal, if u didn’t have the cold sweats then u never had withdrawal, the first thing that hits is the yawns and slight body aches then it goes straight to temperature rapidly changing (this is what frys ppl, and ends up giving them seizures) and i never brought up alcohol i know that’s number one. but depending on how much u did is how u withdrawal, fenty users can’t even use methadone only subox because of how strong this new shit is, all street pills are fentanyl now too hence why i was so fucked. the pill form by itself is stronger than H. but my point still stands that opiate withdrawal is one of the worst things a person can go through especially a fenty user, nowadays anyone at least in cali can get methadone or subox treatment for free, so i guess nowadays there’s no reason to ever withdrawal. but i think most past addicts would agree that they never would want to withdrawal again and that’s enough to stay away.
@@claterrberseker9340 jI say u
This is real and needs to be addressed more... THANK YOU... First introductions to pain meds for me was very young as Hill mentions. A broken femur at Gatorback started a love for opiates. I was a little kid, I didn’t realize what was going on and neither did my parents. Motocross families need to talk about this and understand that when you get hurt bad at least once or more a year the chances of you becoming addicted is at an all-time high. Takes decades away from your life. Parents please talk to your kids...
My cousin got addicted through an motocross injury when he use to race. Messed up his life to this day and we’ve been trying to get him help :(
Get him to a doctor and get him on the suboxone
I was strung out on oxy and eventually heroin for years because of all my MX injuries and the doctors overprescribing. I was going through 270 (30 my) roxcodones every ten days. When I cried out to God, He saved me from my chains of bondage. Here is my testimony; feel free to send it to your cousin! I will be praying for him.
ruclips.net/video/w745y_qNl40/видео.html
I hope he gets some help🤍
@@JSizzle179much the same here.I thank God every day for leading me outta the darkness.
@@BM205 amen!
I broke my femur in 2010, along with a pile of concussions and the typical moto injuries. This is a topic I hope to see come out into the light in the future. Growing up in north west florida is a big moto community and a lot of people turned their back on me and others that medicated naturally instead of opiates after injuries. It's a tough road of addiction and nobody should go down it alone.
This hits home for me. Grew up racing, many injuries, last big wreck was in 2012, destroyed my hip. 5 surgeries over the next 3 years and couldn't ride anymore. Combination of the loss of riding/racing and pain and I fell deep into opioid addiction. Just got 3 years sober in February and bought a new bike and got out there last week for the first time since 2012. Love the podcast brother
I'd love for you to get stroupe on here and to talk about his dealings with stuff like this, I'd like to hear this side of his story. Dude had a crown and just got dropped.
I'd love to have him on for sure!
Same with Nico Izzi
I ended up on oxycodone for almost 6 years, 3 of those years were prescribed. I had my knee replaced and I wasn't told the nerve blocks wouldn't be as effective due to the oxy. I woke up from anesthesia begging for them to cut my leg off or put me under because the pain was so bad. 2 nerve blocks did nothing for me, I could still move my toes and flex my quad. After that I was done with pain killers. For anyone trying to quit- try to ween yourself off by reducing mg each time and wait till you feel withdrawals before your next dose. Wait longer between doses and continue to reduce amount until your only taking 10mg a day. (Should take 7-10 days) Once your there you're no longer dependant. That's how I stopped, quitting cold turkey is brutal
Nerve blockers don't last very long and when they wear off it hurts like hell but opiate pain killers such as oxycodone last a good while. 6 years is a LONG time to be taking them though.
Just found your channel and love this clip!
I work at the state level doing communications to prevent opioid misuse and overdose prevention. My six months in this job has been eye-opening, and based on my years in this sport, unfortunately motocross racers appear to be a truly high risk group. Injuries are common, and honestly I feel like we have pretty addictive personalities anyway. Adding to that, doctors really receive minimal education on how to properly taper dosages for patients they have prescribed them to. A person can become dependent on opioid pain killers in as little as 3-5 days, and that message needs to reach our community. Right now the best practice for pain management is ibuprofen and acetaminophen. It isn't going to make you feel as good as opioids in the short term, but it also doesn't carry a risk of addiction. I appreciate that you are bringing this topic up in discussion, because I feel like it is something that all parents and families need to know!
Josh is a Boss. And he did it himself. That is so hard to get off pain killers and he did it with no rehab. You are right, there is no support within the mx community for opiate abuse. Nerve pain is another level of pain. If you have not felt it then you wouldn't understand and I don't want you to understand because it would mean that you have gone through it. I never take anything again no matter what injury I have
Thanks for doing this video.
Good for Hill to talk openly about the Opiate disaster. There are way more people then most would ever imagine who are strung out junkies
Grew up on the Central Coast of Cali. Broken bones riding moto and here I am now, 38, and battling with heroin at this point. It’s been a real shitty ride to say the least. It really has messed up everything. Got in Suboxone and got part of my life back for awhile but it always leads right back to this damn needle in my arm. I’m just like all of you...we are proud to be in the “Moto Scene” but we struggle like hell from these opiates. I wish all of you luck...taper down and then sweat it out for a week or two and get your life back!!!
I'd like to ask someone that gone through it. If suboxone was able to keep withdrawals away, then how do you end up back? Is H that strong that suboxone doesn't work? Because being addicted to Heroine is horrific. I wish you the best. You know the right thing to do.i know it's hard, but you owe yourself
Thanks for this video I need to hear that
Excellent post
You guys said it perfectly. Especially how the industry will just kick people to the curb. There needs to be more support for riders fighting that battle
So I've literally lived this shit I was pretty fast on 80s then 125s got hurt had a script for pretty much one summer then that's all it took I needed them and didn't even know I needed them fast forward 25yrs pain med free and back on a bike thanks for shedding some light a lot of ppl don't understand this
Mike Cinqmars is a rider that should be in the conversation. His story is totally heart breaking. He was my favorite free rider back in the day. He was doing jumps like his house jump or MTV jumps that are amazing, not to mention his amazing skills in the sand dunes. The guy was truly amazing.
"Cinq" 1978-2009, God Speed.
Definitely!!^
Always loved Josh Hill. I remember playing mx vs atv alive with him and Jason Lawrence. What a fucking blast those days were
It’s interesting to hear this side. I grew up in an area that has a big mx community, and I saw a lot of people who had a future, get hurt then addicted on opiates.
The SX/MX scene tries harder than any other extreme sport to maintain a squeaky clean image. Anything that is slightly outside of the cookie cutter sport/sponsor image is immediately axed, ostracized, and swept under the rug. Nice to hear about the lesser known and darker sides that are reality.
I was a professional FMX rider and I struggled with Opiates for many years. I've been sober now for over 5 years. If any riders out there ever need help with getting clean and sober please feel free to reach out to me Id be happy to help.
He's right with Dr's being too generous and then not sympathetic enough.
Proper physical rehabilitaion is the most important way to fix yourself. Unfortunately, most rehab dr's don't know what they are doing. The pain medication should be used as a crutch so you can strngthen your body with a proper exercise/stretching routine, not so you can just veg out on the couch and play videogames. Obviously the severity of some injuries will require more time just laying around or a slower approach to their physical rehab . When the patient isn't taking the initiative to rehabilitate themselves cause they like the feeling of opiates, they are onnly screwing up their pain receptors which makes them more dependent on opiates.
Took me 10 years to figure it out. All started with a doctors script for a bad injury, and before my script was gone, my body already was dependent. Took me down a bad path that led to a lifetime of damage. Thankfully it’s been 26 months now, but the damage was done and honestly ruined everything I had achieved in life and now I’m starting all over again. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy
Dislocated my shoulder a couple months ago. First question out of the Dr's mouth was what kinda pills do you want ?. Gave me something that i will not touch because i just refuse to go down that path. Good pod cast. Hope every body feels better as well 🤙🏻
Fkn hardwork getting of opiates ,possible but very hard ,staying off when in pain even harder 😮GOOD LUCK 👍
Still one of my all time favorite riders. Much love from Central Oregon man.
I have had 26 orthopedic surgeries in the last 12 years.no pain meds for me. Im one of the lucky ones
Great talk TRUTH
i was on them for 3 weeks after some surgeries but was taken them more then i needed for sure. make your body numb and euphoric
Love josh man
you can tell josh has experienced the comedown of the shit lol its no joke he doesnt even wanna talk about it, usually you need someone else to lock you in a room just to get off of them, good for him for staying on the right track, dude is an awesome rider and inspiration.
I just had a disc operated on in my back from an old racing injury. The doc gave me oxycodone. Even with the oxy the nerve pain was unbearable. The doctor then gave me gabapentin and I finally felt relief. I will never take a opiate again. The gabapentin took the edge off of the nerve pain but did not give me a buzz.
Endone is 5mg Oxy, if you watch the old Oxycontin adverts in the US from 1998 they had an older lady on 160mg a day.
I grew up racing and free riding. Broke a bunch of bones and had a handful of surgeries. Back in the early 2000’s I got on oxys, then started abusing them, then got into heroin. It took me 11 years to get clean and I haven’t used drugs since January 2015.
Fuck man heavy story and good on you for getting clean!
I’m glad that when I broke my collarbone I refused to take the pain meds. I just fought through the pain. 1 week later I’m racing my bike
Good for you Austin.Stay safe stay blessed and stay Fast!
In this sport you're pushed to be perfect obviously if you abuse your gonna be looked down on. These guys are idols.
It was explained to me that it is critical to avoid opiates for say 14 or 15 year old young men because since their brains are still forming and maturing you run the risk of the opiate re-wiring the brain and you end up with the need for more opiates falling into the same category as the need for food, water and oxygen. Very nice interview. I suspect Josh Hill is pretty darn mentally tough.
Good kid from a great family.
I take vicoden for a day or two and then switch over to ibuprofen ASAP!
Definitely been there having to fight the opiate was a hard thing to break and still deal with pain from injuries but just have to deal with it🤷♂️
For all of you out there struggling just know there's hope. I grew up around addiction and left home because of it. Still ended up stuck on them after injuries in Afghanistan. You can kick it. One day at a time. Just keep moving forward. Life is so much better when your world doesn't revolve around a pill or a needle. You can free yourself. I'm living proof and genetically predisposed as a mofo. Literally the only person in my family that's sober. You have to want it and work it.
Josh for President. A+
Josh is such a good dude
haha what a guy josh is, great talking
gnarly topic
Nobody is gonna mention Roncada high on vicodan keeping up with Bubba at a few races? I think that was the first semi-public opiates-in-moto story.
Hey Gyspy, Endone is quick release oxycodone. And Panadine forte is 500mg paracetamol and 30mgs of codeine. Codeine is a level below morphine on the opiate scale. Still can be addictive when taken for too long.
New Origins Rehab in Redlands California has help quite a few riders get their life's back.
I'd love to see Caleb Wyatt on this show. His story about opiates in the sport is insane !!
I'm going to post this on Caleb's FB..... Love the guy and happy is doing well now
@@Fastwayissideways I sent it to him on messenger ! I love Caleb too , he's an awesome guy !
@@pauldayton5285 I've had the pleasure of supporting some top tier riders in recovery. Extreme Extraordinary people that do what few dare. You know, it's not what if they get broken but when they get broken. The sport needs a surrounding of injured riders to save them in the beginning. People with experience in pain and addiction.
@@Fastwayissideways I'm a rider too , I know all about injuries & I completely agree with you. Caleb stayed with me for a while before moving down to Cali.
I broke my back in a car crash and got prescribed tons of Percocet. It was a godsend for about a month, then I realized I was just taking them and didn’t need them. I was scared of getting addicted so I flushed the rest down the toilet and dealt with a couple days of just pure depression. Crazy stuff.
Guys like Josh Hill are a MX treasure. It's too bad the industry wants to paint the picture like him and others are bad guys just for speaking their minds.
Couldn’t agree more
@@GYPSYTALES hell yeah. Love the podcast man. You do a great job of shedding light on pretty much every topic no one else will talk about. Keep on keepin' on.
I don’t know if I’m weird but I have been on norco for a collarbone and this spring I shattered both feet and they put me on nothing for 2 weeks and then Percocet for 5 days once I had surgery. Those may as well had been legos because tylenol did more for me.
Just gained alot of respect for Josh. Telling it like it is. I firmly believe in education. From my experience it was given out without people understanding the true side effects. Now you will not get the medicine needed if you're in alot of pain. Now if you tell the doctor you're in debalatin pain you will get treated like a junkie.
I must be made different. I've had my share of broken bones. From femur, both knees, shoulder, arm and hand and never felt anything from the pills they gave me and not once finish the bottle.
When the pain is bad enough you have to take more than the prescribed dose and then you start liking that feeling. You start looking forward to the injury and that’s when you are acrewed.
I’m in the same boat. I shattered both feet casing a jump. Dislocated foot. Surgery both feet. They put me on a fancy drug for 5 days after surgery. Didn’t do anything for me. Had Crazy neuropathy and the meds and the meds never “wore off” because they never worked.
I’ll buy them off you!
I shattered my foot back in 1999 and was given Pethadine and my eyes just rolled into the back of my head and I felt all warm an fuzzy and there was no pain at all. I've also been on oxycodone and became addicted, endone and became addicted, tramadol and addicted and the only way I could quit was by replacing it with weed and then like Josh says stopping the weed has no withdrawal symptoms. The weed would help with the pain but the pharmaceutical companies need people to take/buy opiate pain killers.
As an opiate addict with a few years of kicking I can tell you your body creates pain for you to want to get opiates to fix it and its tough road mentality just as much physically
yea its called withdrawals
Dude this shit needs to talked about so much more than it is...95% of the guys I raced with growing up all ended up completely ruining there lives on opioids ...
Wow. Is this something thats more of an issue in the USA?. I had a spiral fracture in my right leg (UK) aside from the morphine shot at the A+E I wasn’t offered any pain killers during recovery. Have had multiple sprained ankles, wrists, damaged nerves in my hand. Never once offered painkillers.
At some point, you can get a level of pain that would make even the tough guys take _anything_ to make it better. That`s when oxy come`s lurking in the door, pretending it`s you`re best friend.. And it is, if you can throw it out the window within a couple weeks, before mr addiction arrives.
This need`s more attention for sure!
Breaking my back becoming disabled in wheelchair 12yrs ago & living with bad nervepain maxed out on opioids & other drugs it’s bad being fully addicted to them now, 70 000+ tablets in that time. Just got on medical cannabis in Australia so hopefully be able to fully transfer over & kick the opioids! Merry Christmas everyone from 🇦🇺
Good for you. You will achieve your goal
It's gotta be tough for pro MX racers. Ik pain is a constant battle. Some will be able to use opiates properly. But others, like myself, chemically respond differently & immediately realize that not only is the pain being reduced, but so are mental & emotional issues that u may be battling with, creating an almost immediate dependency. & MX being a sport where riders have to deal with injuries on a regular basis, addiction must be a serious obstacle that more riders than we ever thought are prolly dealing with. I def think there should be some sort of easily accessible support system, whether from the AMA, a sponsor, or just set up by someone in the industry, for riders who need help, guidance, encouragement, counseling, facility where they can detox, or whatever it takes to help them get over an addiction problem & keep it as discreet as they need it to be. Riders who happen to develop a problem shouldn't have to worry about being looked down on or like they need to hide it in fear of ruining their career which only compounds the problem. The MX community should have eachother backs, look out for one another & def try to have something available to these guys to get help if they need it.
Sad to see that US citizens seems to think that pain killers are necesserely addicting. Medicine should not be connected to money to much. take a look and compare US and European Aproval Approaches. It is worth paying attention to....
I wasn't a racer, I just liked going fast and jumping. When I was 14 I broke my back in 2 places, broke a few ribs and had a pierced lung, broken arm. The doctor gave me a script for oxys. Three 80mg a day. I was 6 foot tall and maybe weighed 115lbs. I almost ODed 3 times in the first month. Spent the next 3 years on oxys and hydros then the next almost 13 years on methadone because it was "safer" and it was clear I had a problem. Josh is right, I was born in 88, no one talked about opiates besides heroin, they didn't include it in DARE programs and it was easy to trust doctors and just go with whatever they gave you. For me personally, I had insomnia, social anxiety, adhd and constant pain from a stomach disease, pills fixed all my issues or they seemed like they did. I felt normal for once and my brain was calm. I didn't know it was a problem until it was too late. Even going through all that I still feel like pain pills have their place but you need someone to hold you accountable if you can't do it by yourself. It's just sad so many people got thrown away. It's hard to justify people treating you different because you aren't shooting up or buying off the street. It's just twisted. I just wanna ride my bike and have fun and that's what helped clean me up.
4:30 end one and oxy is both oxycodone same chemical , the difference between what you took and why it was stronger was prolly bc the mg amount was more
Stroupe and Izzi are the first 2 that come to mind..
I broke my back over jumped. 2yrs on Oxys. Hate it.
Try Kratom...two tablespoons mixed with 1 cup of Orange Juice
broke the cup off my spokebone and got no pain meds at home i took 3 type off pain meds and got sick off them realy bad my head felt like crap and i had to sit it out tha twas a good lessson for me (don't get me wrong i do like drugs) keep a way form the heavy stuff
ive been racing since 1979 and was just a mid pack local pro ,ive had ten knee surgeries 8 foot surgeries broke l2,3,4,and crushed l 5 vertabrae , my last accident was 20 years ago cracked both heal bones like 35 screws in both heals , but anyway the last one i have had a steady diet of morphine 30mg ir i take 8 a day i have never really had a problem ive gotten a little angry when pain doctor was slow with prescription but this weekend a new nurse forget to call in my scrips went from 8 pills a day to nothing went to the er and they laughed and said they couldnt even write a scrip for morphine so i threw up ,shit, twicked and sweated until monday at 4 pm ive have cut myself down to have and i am doing pretty good so far still twitching a little but its time to take my life back to think all the things i missed because i was always little cloudy . i go to a licensed pain management doctor and he's always said you need to cut the meds down but then hands me my prescription .i truly dont wish this weekend on anyone .
yea man i dont wish withrdrawls on anyone, im the biggest bitch when it comes to being sick, good luck tho man sounds like youre doing good so far, keep going
I know what your going through. It sucks. You will make it.
Lol,They are called " flu like symptoms" by someone that never went through withdrawals. I like to think of withdrawals as God kicking my ass for being so frigging stupid for allowing myself to get in that position.
@@64maxpower lmfao seriously I would gladly take the flu for 2 months than withdrawals for a day
@@64maxpower close but pretty good
Me too bro i compounded my tibia and i feel the same
Endone is just a 5mg oxy in Aus.
I got hooked on them after a major injury and didn’t even realize they were addictive
Really ? So the first time you reached for your bottle of percs or oxys 5 seconds after opening your eyes in the morning and swallowed them dry because you couldn't wait to wait to walk to the bathroom to get a glass of water it never occurred to you that you were hooked? Either you are really naive, not telling yourself the truth , or not very smart. I don't believe you are any of those things. Just not willing to accept fault. I knew it for myself. I was too mentally weak to do the right thing
@@64maxpower - Respectfully, a lot of dudes hear about all this but don't connect themselves with the idea of how quickly they can get hooked. Had some oxy after a knee surgery and realized the next day I really wanted more, and it wasn't about pain management. Flushed them away though a part of me didn't want to, but I could see where it was heading. Spooky to come that close. Dialogue like on this vid thread is important.
@@64maxpower if you were swallowing them, your addiction had barely begun.
@@SpidermansBro lol, I did like the taste of them . I was such an idiot. I knew pain meds were bad and I didn't act strong enough. I'm strong enough now
Should I out some of the top racers in aus who use opiates just to get high and not for pain ? Got a lot that will shock use all #17
What about performance enchanching drugs in mx
Oh you can't talk about that , remember when jeff alessi brought it to light. He was shut down fast. Didn't some of these trainers train professional cyclist.?🤔
@@dali2277 js7 was never the same with out being blasted on adderall
MX is very similar to WWE in the way they just throw their talent out like trash when a problem arises
I have a destroyed knee but I still wanna ride. Can't race do big jumps but I am going to train see what happens. I'm only 45 have a mint 96 cr250
Smart dude
Kratom has helped me a lot but as with any drug there's potential for abuse n misuse, granted only opioid I'm aware that hasn't had one direct overdose death
Childhood best friend just died from overdose ... started with an mx injury :( this shit is serious
May he Rest In Peace🖤
I had my leg reconstructed and they hardly give me opiates even when I need them
thats the problem, most of the pain meds we get you can break in half or even in 4 quarters and take that little piece and it gets you through the pain. and the doctors just give us a full dose of that shit when its just not needed.
Alot of doctors wont give you anything if youve ever tested positive for even weed or they just assume the worst out of you because where you live. In the mountains of ky they assume everyone is after pain pills. Its insane.
Motocross definitely helped fuel my opioid addiction... I started breaking bones at 12 and I always liked how the meds made me feel after surgery. By the time I was 18 I looked forward to an injury for the meds. Fucking disgusting
I could talk about it all day...come on Hill. He knows people and doesn't want to come off like a person who see's them a certain way. I get it...but truth hurts and sometimes it is best said out loud
I did it opiates since 2005 until 2012 and it totally destroyed my life. It altered my personality and it made me a person that you just wouldn’t want around you. Because peoples on opiates I don’t know what it is about the drug but it changes you makes you fight for that next fix and it makes you steal from the people you love. If anybody’s looking for a way to make themselves the worst person alive then get on opiates. Plain and simple if you like life stay off of them if you don’t enjoy your life then I feel sorry for you.
Who are the riders they talk about that messed up their careers due to opioids?
nicco izzi and austi stroupe to name a few
Right, I always wondered what happened with Nicco Izzi. He had a lot going for him in the amateurs.
@@tambourahall7865 Jason Lawrence I think walked down that road before he moved onto other hardcore drugs.
Seems like a U.S probably, the doctor in the UK won't prescribe you anything for a broken bone. I refused Tramadol from my doctor after a fractured skull because a friend of mine got addicted to it, shame really.
Plan and simple the RIDERS need a UNION !!!
I ended up strung out on oxy for ten years because of all of my MX injuries, and the last couple of years, I was smoking heroin. Thanks to Jesus Christ, who instantaneously removed my obsession to use drugs when I called upon His name in detox five years ago, I now have freedom from the bondage of addiction. Although I still struggle with chronic pain, including nerve pain, His grace is sufficient for my needs. All praise, honor, and glory to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!
Gods do not exist. Gj getting better.
Well he sure helped this broken up racer get off the pills I thought I had to have for 15 years when I asked for his help. I hurt everyday but he helps me though it.Thank you Lord.
@@BM205 no god helped. I'm positive of that
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The evidence of your claim is based on your subjective feelings, and your feelings do not dictate truth. The earth is round whether you chose to believe it or not. Furthermore, everyone believes God exists. Those who deny His existence are merely suppressing the truth and lying to themselves because they want to be their own God.
Furthermore, there is nothing good in me; therefore, I couldn't have done a “good job.” I am a wretched sinner that deserves death, and there is only one who is good, and that's God. I was dead and lost in my sin, and in His grace, God scooped me up out of the mire and muck and put His Spirit in me, and brought life to these dead bones.
I always knew it was around the sport with how many people get injuries and have surgeries. Theres gotta be several dudes addicted and struggling to get clean. Take trey canard for example. I was always worried he was gonna struggle with opiates with now often he was out injured
It would be awesome to see AMA embrace more THC in pain management. Everyone is worried about the image of the sport; kids don't need athletes to know about weed or partake. It's been around society for centuries. Others worried about athletes abusing it; what would be the difference between someone just not wanting to put in the work vs someone not wanting to put in the work because they wanna smoke?
Wish Josh would talk more on it, along with other racers. Other sports are starting to ease up, MX should be right there with them, especially when opiates are so detrimental to general life far beyond an MX career. It's bad for the athletes to just constantly be pushed that way.
Yeah I totally agree. Motocross is always so hush hush on everything. I think in time we will start to grow and I hope conversations like this can get rid of some of the taboo around it all!
Thought I saw CBDMD sponsors at the supercross if I'm not hallucinating!
Maybe AMA don't know what the product actually is, or they're hypocrites.
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@@mattburnett4185 you did! However that is just allowing individual sponsors, not using it as the extremely useful pain management technique that it also happens to be.
Must admit I thought it was awesome seeing weed being advertised on tv
@@mattburnett4185 Agreed, I just feel like the distinction between corporate sponsorship and the sport as a whole using THC to create a better environment for current and future athletes should be made.
I do appreciate the brands getting in early!
Good lord, it’s just a vicious cycle, get help there r plenty of programs out there to help with addiction! I’ve been there done that, all cuz of mx!
Good message. I busted a shoulder in 2018 and it was better they started shutting that stuff off. Bad stuff.