DEV UPDATED! DATAMINES from it! F-15E NEW ENGINE! UPDATES on the RMV, F-117 & MORE - War Thunder DEV

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  • Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2024

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  • @Bobble_XD
    @Bobble_XD 5 дней назад +262

    This dude exhales warthunder videos

    • @gabj3826
      @gabj3826 5 дней назад +9

      Nah HE BREATHS WAR THUNDER, STRAIGHT UP.

    • @lucasmateus1389
      @lucasmateus1389 4 дня назад +2

      That was funny a lot

  • @pradyun9874
    @pradyun9874 5 дней назад +238

    bro needs to sleep

  • @moldypotato4656
    @moldypotato4656 5 дней назад +41

    The Su24M has a researchable modification called "Su24M2" that turns the aircraft into the Su24M2 and allows it to use GNSS bombs. From what I can see, they're going to upgrade the radar by giving extra ground search modes, adjustable scan zones, and an air search mode.

    • @fubuixmas
      @fubuixmas 4 дня назад

      What about locking ground targets?

    • @user-cs3qh1uv5y
      @user-cs3qh1uv5y 4 дня назад

      Su24M can already use GNSS bombs can’t they

    • @moldypotato4656
      @moldypotato4656 4 дня назад

      @@user-cs3qh1uv5y In WT you can't equip GNSS bombs without first unlocking the Su24M2 upgrade.

    • @moldypotato4656
      @moldypotato4656 4 дня назад

      @@fubuixmas The Su24M currently only has a search mode and the datamine only mentions additional search modes, so I don't think it'll be able to lock onto anything.

    • @user-cs3qh1uv5y
      @user-cs3qh1uv5y 4 дня назад

      @ that’s not in game tho

  • @theannihilator9167
    @theannihilator9167 5 дней назад +83

    damn, this update is so late, looks like there is just a month or max 5 weeks between this and the december update...!

    • @jokemanXL
      @jokemanXL 5 дней назад +10

      yeah, looks like december update will be 24-26 december

    • @iamgaard
      @iamgaard 5 дней назад +26

      They are calling it a major update in official comms, I'm starting to fear that we're skipping December update lol

    • @parapat9957
      @parapat9957 5 дней назад +9

      @@jokemanXL nah, it will be really early january, that's why they said the typhoon will come in 2025, becouse it will come next update

    • @jokemanXL
      @jokemanXL 5 дней назад +2

      @@parapat9957 maybe but usually they take a holidays for 1-2 weeks before New year and after

    • @jokemanXL
      @jokemanXL 5 дней назад +4

      @@iamgaard they call every update "major" when add new models

  • @mlgrocket
    @mlgrocket 5 дней назад +9

    at least night vision is finally being made stock on tanks that have it. this was supposed to happen months ago, but better late than never i guess. was my only worry with them removing the flares

  • @airlightshockZOV
    @airlightshockZOV 4 дня назад +14

    S-75 was added to counter the F-117 with its operators forgetting that the F-117 was invisible

  • @gloriousstalinium2946
    @gloriousstalinium2946 5 дней назад +29

    For the Mirage 2000D RMV Gaijin should either: put 8 Magic 2 and put it in 13.0 max
    put the MICA IR

    • @jokemanXL
      @jokemanXL 5 дней назад +2

      or put 2000D-R1 to 12.0 and RMV to 12.3

    • @toxickilljoy9037
      @toxickilljoy9037 5 дней назад +3

      Mica ir, iris t, aim 9x and such will all some simultaneously as they did with fox 3s

    • @mlgrocket
      @mlgrocket 5 дней назад +3

      if the MICA IR gets added, then the 9X should be added. only sounds fair to me if france can have 2 thrust vectoring fire and forget missiles.

    • @jokemanXL
      @jokemanXL 5 дней назад +1

      @mlgrocket Mica IR doesn't have thrust vectoring only EM

    • @elo4998
      @elo4998 5 дней назад +5

      ​@@jokemanXL That is not true at all

  • @ScrubIord
    @ScrubIord 5 дней назад +8

    I really hope the update comes out tomorrow, the admins said Soon™on one of the blogs

    • @Aubeck_mann7
      @Aubeck_mann7 5 дней назад

      i don’t think so, some ppl says that this update going to come out the next week

    • @bananasticks1071
      @bananasticks1071 4 дня назад

      probably next tuesday

  • @johnpowers6282
    @johnpowers6282 4 дня назад

    I was here when you had 5K subs. I’ll be here when you get to 50K. With the current state of air RB, I don’t know how you play this game as much as you do. But I respect the grind dude.

  • @Mishalali-wz6lm
    @Mishalali-wz6lm 4 дня назад +4

    Go to sleep guys give him big like and support him

  • @PvtPartzz
    @PvtPartzz 5 дней назад +1

    Appreciate all the info!

  • @IRLFlightSim
    @IRLFlightSim 5 дней назад +3

    So the F15I is now heavier than the F15E by 100 kg

  • @meisterdestoasts1574
    @meisterdestoasts1574 4 дня назад +1

    There is already a modification for the Su24M in the game called Su24M2 and it allowes it to carry the gps guided KAB500S (Rank 2 modification )

  • @Panda-gd8og
    @Panda-gd8og 5 дней назад +14

    CHILL OUT PLEASE BROOOOO

    • @joshualeespiny7172
      @joshualeespiny7172 5 дней назад +3

      Plot twist is that he makes these for 2 hours in the morning then does fuck all the rest of the day I'm calling it

  • @oz314
    @oz314 5 дней назад +31

    I swear everytime someone says Russian bias in the forums Gajin buffs the American jets.

    • @Bad_Karma777
      @Bad_Karma777 5 дней назад +8

      😢

    • @a.e.richardson218
      @a.e.richardson218 5 дней назад +1

      Oh you're here hii love your content​@@Bad_Karma777

    • @ohoh7570
      @ohoh7570 4 дня назад

      ikr

    • @ICECAPPEDSKY
      @ICECAPPEDSKY 4 дня назад

      Gotta compensate for the shit top tier ground somehow. If you have mediocre tanks and bad helicopters you best have good aircraft.

  • @Frozander
    @Frozander 4 дня назад +3

    if they are moving TV lock range to 40km, I am hoping they also increase the TGP lock range too. It is not even remotely realistic.

  • @FilippoDonna
    @FilippoDonna 5 дней назад +2

    If you say you don‘t need sleep i believe you, but please, SLEEP WHEN YOU NEED TO
    (Love the content tough, keep doing videos your my favourite warthunder youtuber)

  • @jostinpepe
    @jostinpepe 4 дня назад +2

    Im afraid the snail has caught him and is forcing him to post war thunder.

  • @ak-1271
    @ak-1271 4 дня назад

    Huh. So my man is finally getting some rest. Good to know.

  • @treanttrooper6349
    @treanttrooper6349 5 дней назад

    Harrier Main is happy with the intro

  • @-Muri-
    @-Muri- 4 дня назад +2

    Im still waiting for them to fix the mig29 and su27 airframe they bleed all of their speed in 1 turn (if you dont get murdered before you finish the turn)

  • @batlax18
    @batlax18 5 дней назад +2

    You guys commented so much he had to adress the no sleep allegations 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jansedlak8505
    @jansedlak8505 5 дней назад +1

    GBU's 48, 49 and 50 are enhanced paveways.

  • @NollieFlipX
    @NollieFlipX 4 дня назад +2

    Dude how the hell do you play the Yak-38 in Air RB? I have a terrible time with it! It can't run, can't turn, can't climb and the R-60s eat flares like crazy and everything I face has flares at that BR. Idk if they reduced it's br though

    • @FinickyToast50
      @FinickyToast50 4 дня назад +1

      Haven't played War Thunder in a while but from what I remember, the Yak-38's a pretty terrible plane. Your best bet is to avoid people and try and sneak up on them to backstab them with r 60's, and hope they don't notice so they don't flare it

    • @kajmak64bit76
      @kajmak64bit76 4 дня назад

      Yak-38 is overpowered unless you see an all aspect slinger
      It's almost mach 1 goes zoom zoom and has 4x R-60's at 9.3
      You don't dogfight in it unless you're safe and 1v1 so you enable VTOL and helicopter them to death
      A lot of the planes don't have flares too and you see F-86's a lot lol

    • @ssrubenmf7296
      @ssrubenmf7296 4 дня назад

      At 9.3 there are a good chunk of planes without flares, heck, the J35 D of the Swedish tech tree at 10.3 doesn't have them

  • @Stardust_the_F-104C
    @Stardust_the_F-104C 4 дня назад

    Aye matAWG.
    What are your opinions on the F-104 starfighters?

  • @jokemanXL
    @jokemanXL 5 дней назад

    RMV will also get IIR PGM-500/2000

  • @Gaetano.94
    @Gaetano.94 4 дня назад

    Isn't the dev server closed? Downloaded it yesterday and it didn't work.

  • @VickyHong1879
    @VickyHong1879 5 дней назад +3

    I'm a bit sad the MICA got removed from the 2000d rmv, it was a justified change, but it means I'll have to wait longer to get a 2 seat fighter mirage, and can't enjoy the sleeker cc422 pod

  • @marcins-stylegaming1963
    @marcins-stylegaming1963 5 дней назад +3

    Will the update come tomorrow or is that unlikely

    • @matawg
      @matawg  5 дней назад +5

      no probably only on tuesday next week or wednesday

  • @BlobBoi
    @BlobBoi 20 часов назад

    Gaijin try not to make American air tree ungodly broken challenge (impossible)

  • @Ben_Kimber
    @Ben_Kimber 5 дней назад

    What? They actually did something nice for the Tornado by buffing PGMs? I did not expect that. I’m guessing they did it as an afterthought in response to the Brimstone rage though. I guess I’ll still main PGMs in ground rb with the Tornado for now, even though I’d love to use the Brimstones. It’s not really practical to use laser guided weapons at top tier due to all the SAMs and the need to maintain laser lock.

  • @sgtobliteratorgaming317
    @sgtobliteratorgaming317 4 дня назад

    Will you be making videos on Sea Power?

  • @vibecu
    @vibecu 4 дня назад +2

    Return the grom-1 😭😭

  • @plymouth258
    @plymouth258 4 дня назад

    Gaijin going to nerf flankers and buff Eagles:

  • @تيمقميناسي-ث7ز
    @تيمقميناسي-ث7ز 2 дня назад

    Do any have the connection error i cant get into the game plz help

  • @Zimmy_yegor
    @Zimmy_yegor 4 дня назад +4

    Where r77-1 or r77m 😢😢😢😢

    • @sznl2.01
      @sznl2.01 4 дня назад +1

      R-77-1 when AIM-120C. Prob come out together

    • @kajmak64bit76
      @kajmak64bit76 4 дня назад +1

      ​@@sznl2.01ah so a missile that rivals Aim-120A needs a missile that outmatches it by a lot
      Makes sense bro
      If Aim-120C comes that means R-77M comes too lol

    • @sznl2.01
      @sznl2.01 4 дня назад

      @ myb, I must’ve been thinking of another missile

    • @kajmak64bit76
      @kajmak64bit76 4 дня назад

      @@sznl2.01 R-77 ingame is like the worst Fox-3 missile in the game
      R-77-1 fixes it and it still might be worse then aim-120A but it's closer
      R-77M from what i know has insane range or maybe i am confusing it with another variant... but i saw one having better range then Aim-120 becauss it has a booster in behind... imagine R-27ER but it's R-77... like how they made R-27R bigger to add a booster so it flies further

  • @camperkiller3119
    @camperkiller3119 2 дня назад

    so do americans get the same engines as the islaeli f15?

  • @ThePointlessBox_
    @ThePointlessBox_ 5 дней назад +6

    damn dude, still no fix to the su27 flight model
    its been like 6 months since I last booted up the game

    • @СергейНикольский-я2ц
      @СергейНикольский-я2ц 5 дней назад +3

      It will get another FM nerf actually))))
      When I say “will” I mean it’s already nerfed on the dev and next week it will be nerfed on the live server as well when the patch comes out

    • @ThePointlessBox_
      @ThePointlessBox_ 5 дней назад +1

      damn, dropping the game then. Might as well go to DCS then

    • @СергейНикольский-я2ц
      @СергейНикольский-я2ц 5 дней назад

      @@ThePointlessBox_ it won’t be very noticeable though, you just won’t be able to perform “roll on top” at post stall speeds by just using rudder without using differential thrust

    • @ThePointlessBox_
      @ThePointlessBox_ 5 дней назад +2

      @@СергейНикольский-я2ц nah im dipping. Sim air is already unfairly unbalanced as is.
      Non functional radar
      Missiles that are worse in every way
      And to top it all off a flight model that is worse than anything else in the sky
      Its been a year and they didnt do jack

    • @genchar692
      @genchar692 5 дней назад +1

      @@ThePointlessBox_Russia Has had the best missiles R27ER/ET, Tanks,SPAA,Helis,and Ships for years, if you don’t like the aircraft grind a different nation

  • @Skeltvn
    @Skeltvn 4 дня назад

    Surely they’ve fixed the brimstone? Surely right 🙃🔫

  • @missel-skibidi
    @missel-skibidi 4 дня назад +1

    bruh i dont understand whats wrong with gaijin WHERES THE DIDDY PARTY VEHICLE?

  • @t0k4m4k7
    @t0k4m4k7 4 дня назад

    THANK GOD HEY PUT THE NEW ENGINE IN THE EAGLE

  • @wifi_soldier5076
    @wifi_soldier5076 4 дня назад

    I wish it would hurry about. I havent been able to grind anything in the French ground tree for like almost all year... other than the vextra.....

  • @jibofjibs
    @jibofjibs 5 дней назад +1

    And still no A-6E Tram radar

  • @GlockWan
    @GlockWan 4 дня назад

    New rider?

  • @Santino459
    @Santino459 5 дней назад +2

    When is the damn update

    • @monke25624
      @monke25624 5 дней назад +1

      Prob tues or wed

    • @Santino459
      @Santino459 5 дней назад

      @monke25624 whaaat? Bro i thought its gonna be this week!

    • @batlax18
      @batlax18 5 дней назад

      @@Santino459no, I’d it were gone be this week 99% change it would have been today, it’s incredibly unlikely that it comes tomorrow. Like he said, it’ll be next Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest

    • @kajmak64bit76
      @kajmak64bit76 4 дня назад

      12th November

    • @monke25624
      @monke25624 4 дня назад

      @@kajmak64bit76 it's actually confirmed?

  • @ryanrautenberg6092
    @ryanrautenberg6092 5 дней назад +1

    We need an update on your sleep schedule, not this

  • @shanedockery3283
    @shanedockery3283 5 дней назад

    Where will the f15e be in the tech tree?

  • @swynty777
    @swynty777 4 дня назад

    Bro is a magnet to haters 😂😂😂

  • @dazenkatcheech1570
    @dazenkatcheech1570 5 дней назад

    Would love the f4g

  • @goliver9991
    @goliver9991 4 дня назад

    id like to see atgm fixes soon 😥

  • @wiktorczasak3709
    @wiktorczasak3709 4 дня назад

    How Can dude be posting this much, he breathes war thunder and exhales videos

  • @monke25624
    @monke25624 5 дней назад

    Bro actually sleep 😭😭😭

  • @lemonade4369
    @lemonade4369 4 дня назад

    Game needs a radar jammer :3

  • @Aubeck_mann7
    @Aubeck_mann7 5 дней назад

    when the update coming?

  • @x-plane1188
    @x-plane1188 5 дней назад +1

    У тебя какой-то особенный дэв-сервер? Для джонов его не закрывали 6 ноября, да?

    • @AlexLamovich
      @AlexLamovich 4 дня назад +1

      Сейчас он видосы, записанные пока дев был открыт, выпускает

  • @XolarPoweredHistory21
    @XolarPoweredHistory21 5 дней назад

    Anything getting new fuel tanks?

  • @treyfloyd6003
    @treyfloyd6003 5 дней назад

    So the f15E/I got about a 5%increase in power but consum more fuel along with being more sluggish?

    • @batlax18
      @batlax18 5 дней назад +2

      Idk about an increase in power, but the fuel consumption did increase. It’s also just barely more sluggish, you probably won’t notice it

    • @treyfloyd6003
      @treyfloyd6003 5 дней назад

      @batlax18 unless I read it wrong it said an average 5% base thrust increase. Hopefully that's what I think it means. Maybe it'll help cancel out the extra sluggishness

    • @ClankerWanker
      @ClankerWanker 5 дней назад

      The nerfs I read referenced a value called “moment of inertia” which refers to how difficult it would be to rotate the plane on each axis. At low speeds it would make a difference but I think with enough airflow over the control surfaces the only thing it would do is make the aircraft roll a bit less. I don’t think it will impact rate speed very much

  • @noamax1
    @noamax1 4 дня назад +1

    F15i should have better rwr and ecm

  • @Jules-y3s
    @Jules-y3s 5 дней назад

    Bro you can go sleep its ok

  • @fluffytoaster2099
    @fluffytoaster2099 4 дня назад

    I swear sone things are interesting but you made like 4 videos that covered the new F15E/i engines
    Bro u dont neet to cover things you allready mentioned multiple times

    • @fluffytoaster2099
      @fluffytoaster2099 4 дня назад

      Again some are interesting but most things you mentioned here was allready mentioned yesterday

  • @The_real_razgriz01
    @The_real_razgriz01 4 дня назад

    Love your vids bro fr, but go outside lmfao.

  • @Optimusprime56241
    @Optimusprime56241 5 дней назад +2

    Is gaijin stupid? Why did they give the tram stock NVDs lmao 🤣

  • @makow_5637
    @makow_5637 5 дней назад +2

    Wtf is wrong with gaijin, how can they put a ground attack jet with 2 missiles at 12.7 ????!!!

    • @batlax18
      @batlax18 5 дней назад +3

      Because it’s a mirage 2000

    • @nobunagaoda5217
      @nobunagaoda5217 4 дня назад

      because France

    • @InF1rsity
      @InF1rsity 4 дня назад

      RMV have 4 magics, but I’ll remember about 2000D-R1 with only 2 missilels and it have 12.3 br

  • @ThunderWT
    @ThunderWT 5 дней назад +1

    MAN STOP PLS NOOOOOO STOP GETTING MONEY!!!!

    • @Panda-gd8og
      @Panda-gd8og 5 дней назад

      You really think hes doing it for money?

    • @Franseven
      @Franseven 5 дней назад +3

      he gets no money basically, he doesn't have a GPU capable of ray tracing lol

    • @Panda-gd8og
      @Panda-gd8og 5 дней назад

      @@Franseven i mean he brought new gpu but he aint doing this for money

    • @Altitude-iq5yw
      @Altitude-iq5yw 5 дней назад

      Ооо , тандер , дароу 😄

  • @camaradeKC
    @camaradeKC 5 дней назад +2

    in air rb the new mirage 2k D should be at the same br as the old one as there isnt a single upgrade that improve air to air capabilities. To emphasize on the stupidness of that br. this mirage is higher ranked than the air fighter counterpart which is one of the stupidest thing i ever seen and that also show on how the old 2k D is too high in br also of the C is too low

    • @jokemanXL
      @jokemanXL 5 дней назад +1

      They put RMV at 12.7 because of hmd, but i think they have to put 2000D-R1 to 12.0, and RMV to 12.3

    • @camaradeKC
      @camaradeKC 5 дней назад +1

      @@jokemanXL ye i mean what u gonna do with 2 magic 2 when u get uptiered in 13.7 ? XD

    • @vandeseite1662
      @vandeseite1662 5 дней назад

      @@camaradeKCnothing

    • @jokemanXL
      @jokemanXL 5 дней назад

      @@camaradeKC fly and cry))

  • @Prisoner4245
    @Prisoner4245 5 дней назад

    Get some sleep

  • @herbertmcsherb66617
    @herbertmcsherb66617 5 дней назад

    mans needs to learn to breath through his nose lmao

  • @Th3Bishop3
    @Th3Bishop3 4 дня назад

    They are really committing to this stupid bit of nerfing RWR's.

  • @emar5992
    @emar5992 5 дней назад +3

    stop saying "more realistic" this game is not realistic at all

    • @wapniak666
      @wapniak666 5 дней назад +1

      who cares

    • @TheChickenJ
      @TheChickenJ 5 дней назад +9

      If something is not realistic, and something realistic is added, is it not “more realistic “🤨

    • @OgeeGabe603
      @OgeeGabe603 4 дня назад +5

      @@TheChickenJ Shhh 🤫. There smooth brain might explode.

  • @Niko_rj
    @Niko_rj 5 дней назад +3

    That's crazy how F15 has much faster acceleration than Su 27.
    Su 27 - 16.5 ton
    F15 - 13.0 ton
    SU 27 engine power - 11 600kgf
    F15 - 8 500kgf
    Su 27 should be little bit faster, but it's much, much slower...

    • @Howl-Runner
      @Howl-Runner 5 дней назад +5

      O.o I think you should do the math by hand thrust vs weight vs drag coefficient. You'll find the f 15 is spot on.

    • @batlax18
      @batlax18 5 дней назад +2

      For one, the new 229s produce like 10600kgf, and you also have to factor the drag coefficient, airflow, etc

    • @genchar692
      @genchar692 5 дней назад

      That is wrong lol the F15E/I have the PW-229 which give it 20% more thrust so of course it will have faster speed

    • @Niko_rj
      @Niko_rj 5 дней назад

      @@batlax18 I'm about old one

    • @batlax18
      @batlax18 5 дней назад +1

      @@Niko_rj you still have to factor weight, drag, and how the F15’s intakes optimize airflow at every speed, and while maneuvering. There is much more to it than looking at a stat card thrust and saying this should have more acceleration because I looked at 2 numbers and not the things that matter

  • @BAM_BAM_XCI
    @BAM_BAM_XCI 5 дней назад

    They should give the night hawk air to air missles it could carry them and pilots said they did carry them

    • @DogMan077
      @DogMan077 5 дней назад

      Navy variant's did

    • @BAM_BAM_XCI
      @BAM_BAM_XCI 5 дней назад

      @DogMan077 what? I'm saying because the yak-141 is even in game the nighthawk which had them actually fitted to the plane should get them

    • @fewik8567
      @fewik8567 5 дней назад

      Half the harriers in game by real world design can carry 18 brimstones and much better air to airs, it's a little annoying for gaijin to put so much effort into designing models so detailed and complex gameplay wise but put a harrier at a lower br and just remove it's capabilities for example, harriers are incredibly powerful strike aircraft and in game they just feel like a middle ground, jack of all trades master of none and cant really perform well in many situations. It's mainly role throughout all of its uses were ground attack and close air support and it's being forced to be some ground capable dog fighter? And that's just one of the many vehicles wedged into a corner or generic roles and uses. The harrier hits home because it's one of my personal favourite aircraft. So sorry to rant but I hope I make an understandable point

    • @brodykloster2102
      @brodykloster2102 5 дней назад +1

      That’s historically false, you got some things mixed up, there were plans to add the aim 120 and or sidewinders into the internal bay, but it was just an idea and never went into production, so irl it never carried any missiles

    • @BAM_BAM_XCI
      @BAM_BAM_XCI 4 дня назад

      @@brodykloster2102 irl pilots and maintenance crew claimed they did fit them into the bay, and they would actually function, while the yak-141 never carried weapons in flight, it never had a gun, never was fitted with any type of radar, and never flew with weapons, so even if the nighthawk getting aim 9's is A historical wat thu der hasn't cared in the past multiplayer times in the past for other nations, since the abrams in war thunder is a historical, with its turret being too high, it missing its proper rounds, the turret ring being far to thin, the hstvl being a medium dart when it's a full size 75cm dart, or the fact the ah-65d longbow doesn't have the hellfire L yet, and that's just a few of the issues rn with historical accuracy

  • @醬608
    @醬608 5 дней назад

    Bruh pantsir still get buff wtf

  • @Nova-2836
    @Nova-2836 4 дня назад

    USSR DOES NOT NEED MORE SAMS

  • @CrackOnCat
    @CrackOnCat 5 дней назад +4

    Exactly what we need. The strike eagles getting nerfed but tue Su-34 still being able to pull cobras and shit.
    Edit: I am not US main people who write that are and im pretty sure russian players💀
    Anyway i was a little mad while writing this so yea💀

    • @Skibidy_rizzler_
      @Skibidy_rizzler_ 5 дней назад +2

      Finally russian bias for air

    • @fennoman9241
      @fennoman9241 5 дней назад +9

      F-15s will still clap the Su-34s easily.

    • @Optimusprime56241
      @Optimusprime56241 5 дней назад +9

      Not a nerf it’s just the weight of the new engines being added

    • @IZZ_MEE_AZZFAA
      @IZZ_MEE_AZZFAA 5 дней назад

      F-15E will killed Su-34 easily

    • @mikeyplayzwrld
      @mikeyplayzwrld 5 дней назад +3

      You could stay at mach 2 while doing a 180 at high alt...