Sorry to hear you and your family have been ill. I wish you all a quick recovery. As far as the things going on against Min Yoongi, it's just ridiculous. The people who did such things as send flowers like they did really have mental issues. They have been posting so much hate, it's insane and they have been acting like they are Army's, but real Army's would never do such things. Who ever does these things need help with their mental health.
Did you see the real footage which was released just half an hour back? The earlier footage spread by JTBC and Yonhap News was manipulated. It wasn't Suga. Now they are taking down the manipulated news and videos after enabling Suga's witch hunt for a week. The real footage shows he was riding a cycle like vehicle with a motor probably at a speed slower than he walks in his real life on the foot path and fell while taking a turn to enter his home. He wasn't lying a bit about the incident. Its very clear in the footage. He fell just in front of the house. I hope Bighit sues all media platforms and twiter accounts for spreading misinformation and harrasing him for a weak!
@@komerican-og Yes. You can check by yourself and the sad part is Korean netizens/fans of other groups are still after him saying things like he could kill someone! Correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sorry if my statement hurts you but my understanding from seeing how Korea has been handling certain situations over the past few yours is that although most societies are toxic and often take out their frustration of living in a competitive world, on famous people, in Korea it is at a different level altogether! But it is just ironic that the good image of Korea that BTS worked so hard to create over the years is being tarnished by the people of their very own nation trying to bring them down! I find it truly unfortunate. We aren't saying he is right but it's not a crime for which he should be character assassinated and harassed like this! Where is common sense truly?
And he was up again immediately. With his body language, there's also no way he was as drunk as the media reported but the police can't release the real facts of an ongoing case.
No common sense. And you do not have to be sorry. Koreans do have a special group of people who seem to find joy in tearing people down. Not all but there are definitely are crazies. There are positives and negatives. You have to face your negative to actually have a chance to get better. Korea does have this problem.
Thank you very much for making this video. It can sometimes be hard for outsiders like me to understand the nuances of a culture, which can be very valuable information to have. In this case, it just makes it so much worse. What horrible people indeed! This entire case has been quite bad for the image of South Korea tbh. And I'm not talking about Suga's minor mistake; I'm talking about the way the press has behaved and how it actually ended up highlighting the headlines that would otherwise have been front page news and that someone imo tried to hide through all this chaos. Headlines, which only fuelled my impression of SK as a highly corrupt and misogynistic country that I wouldn't want to go to. I know it's a beautiful country with a rich cultural heritage but they honestly don't deserve our guys. They should be appreciated for their contributions to the country, not hounded, dragged and exploited the way they are. But Karma is an ARMY - let her cook... 😏 I'm glad you're feeling a little better. All the best to you and your family and thank you once again. 💜
i've been an army for years and i'm also on the younger side of the fandom but not too young (just turned 16 a few months ago), yoongi has always been my favourite member of bts however I love them all equally. I struggle with severe clinical depression among other diagnosed mental disorders and through bts I felt true happiness was achievable for the first time in my life. through yoongi, I was healed from so much trauma it's hard to fully describe how much he saved me because there aren't enough words in the world to accurately describe it. By the time I was 10 I was fluent in Korean (self taught) because back then there weren't always subtitles available in english and my second language Afrikaans so I just decided to learn the language. Naturally I'm very familiar with Korean media and have criticized them for years but this is just so disgusting, they're once again starting a witch hunt only MONTHS after Lee Sun Kyun passed away because of them, they're so despicable seriously. thanks uncle John for being a safe place for us to rant and even learn more about situations like this, I'm physically sick, South Korea does not deserve Bts.
I feel so terribly sad for Suga.. look at what all BTS and Yoongi has done for their country. To go to this extreme when he makes a mistake that he owned up to, apologized for and promised it wouldn't happen again. This is def not ARMY. To wish a death of career or worse... is beyond extreme.
Hi John, thanks for covering this. I wanted to know your thoughts on this, but I know you don’t like drama. I had heard that Suga’s alcohol level was .08, but you mentioned it was .227 %. Are the Korean news stories more exaggerated? I also heard the distance Suga rode his scooter was only 500 meters. Is that what you read or heard? Yes, he shouldn’t have been riding under the influence. 500 meters is such a short distance-even I can walk that in less than 10 minutes. It’s just terrible how those haters are acting. I feel so bad for our dear Suga. What’s wrong with those people? How do they get away with it? Anyway, thank you for giving us your thoughts and letting us know what those flowers stand for. I’m sorry you had another bout of Covid. Geez, it seems Covid is going around again, with a new Variant. Glad you’re better.
The initial report was .08 then the most recent reports said that it was .227%. Which means he would get a harsher sentence. It changes starting from .2%. Now I just heard that the video they newly got showed Suga riding for more than 2 Km and even on the sidewalk. I also read a comment that said this was doctored. It was actually of some other guy. I need to check on this but Korean Media and the psychos are nuts. The do not deserve BTS or anything good in this world.
The .227% has just been debuked as we knew it was. We now know the original footage that went out was not Suga. We now have real coverage of Suga falling over his scooter and can clearly see it is what in the UK is classified a Mobility aid (that doesn't even require a driving licence and is not for the road it's for the Pavement (side walk for Americans)and has the ability to have a front basket for the user to put their shopping/ bag etc into. We see the police officers go over to him to check on him it's much clearer than that bogus footage.
As someone who is familiar with Chinese culture, those flowers triggered me too. Because I am too familiar with them. And yes. The wedding and funeral arrangements next to each other is DISGUSTING. It is embarrassing. It is so unhinged. This is such a joke to the rest of us on the outside looking in. A lot of people need a lot of help over there it seems. John, does it ever occur to you that all these toxicity contributed to the shrinking of South Korean population?
This entire situation is ridiculous and disgusting. Like these people don't have anything better to do with their lives. It's pathetic how far they would go to try to destroy someone. I hope he is doing well and trying his best not to mind them too much because he's human and this kinda thing would affect anyone.
Thank you for speaking up about this. They are the same evil people, antis and trolls with a new target. The thing is that we ARMYs do not love the BTS members because they are “perfect idols” but because they themselves are the first to admit that they are not “perfect”. Yoongi especially has never tried to hide his imperfections. He has always taken responsibility for them and has consistently worked on becoming a better person and we admire him for that as well as his genius music. No amount of lies, false news stories, flowers or evil posts will keep us from loving and supporting all seven members of BTS. 💜. p.s. glad you are getting better - we have missed you!
the actuall cctv is out, where its clear like the day that yg is driving slow on a side walk in a helmet and falls on a sharp turn to his home becase of what looks like the front wheel getting stuck. after the fall yg gets up himself, picks up his helmet, picks up the scooter, looking just ok the speed limit was not violated, as he drove past the patrol officers on his way, the same officers that later came to him after the fall to see if he's ok. they did not stop him, they did not need to help him either yet the first "report" that was released by kmedia said that yg was so intoxicated that he was found lying on the ground and couldn't even speak coherently!!! we have a lost of 33 "journalists" writing false and malicious articles about the accident, each wrote more than 20. thats 600+ articles!! the hunt is hust insane you noticed also how fast the flower wreaths have been reposted by the media? i am so 100% sure they would add fuel to the fire with a low moves like that themselves just so they have things to run their mouths about! lying about armys doing "suga challenge" as in pretending to drive drunk, when it was never us in the first place and we did not support this stupid idea. im so mad i wish downfall for every outlet and every "journalist" that pushed his name into the dirt for the loud headline. let BH sue them all once the case is closed as yoongi himself said, "The thing about idols is thay we dont gave to commit a crime or do something controversial for people to blow little things out of proportion and judge us"
I’m sorry you and your wife have been sick! I hope she gets well soon! Hang in there my younger schoolmate and welcome back! The SUGA thing is absolutely unbelievable… It is using the positive, supportive group energy of the Korean culture in a twisted dark and evil way!! I love how Asian cultures maintain order by pulling together and promoting group harmony over individual selfish behaviors, but twisting this to punish and isolate one individual, in an exaggerated fashion that clearly is more severe than the individuals transgression,is truly deranged societal behavior! It is group bullying that encourages a person to feel more guilt than they should… especially in this case after a clear and sincere apology has been made by SUGA!! This type of exaggerated bullying is clearly meant to try to tear down his self esteem and cripple him mentally!! I hope he has developed a strong mind over the years as he has worked on himself continuously over the years and I hope he feels the humongous love and support of his fans all over the world!! These Antis should be found and punished appropriately for bullying and personal harassment of our Min Yoongi!!
Thank you for your rant. We all care. Now I have a better understanding about the flowers. I’ve seen them in the past but didn’t realize their significance.
Did anyone notice he was immediately surrounded by THREE police officers? And then a FOURTH one arrived?? Is it just me or that’s suspiciously A LOT and OVER THE TOP for someone tripping over whole parting an electric skateboard with a handle and seat?
Yes, as if someone had already tipped them about Suga drinking and riding home. They all need to gather there. So happened he tripped and fell down. They had a good excuse to penalise him.
oh man, I missed you! please feel better soon (you and the wifey). I agree that there should be a consequence for the incident but not to the point that people would tear down another human being. Especially one that has done nothing but love his fans and his music and contributed to the history and culture of their country. Karma is coming. P.S I wouldn't be surprised If Yoongi unleashes AgustD after all of this blows over.
Sending you and your spouse positive vibes for good health. I feel your frustration and agree. Suga broke the law which is wrong but he owned up to it, didn't lie and accepted his punishment. I only know about the flowers from kdramas, thank you for the clarification!💜
Your anger is well placed and justified. The whole incident has been so misrepresented just to try to hurt Yoongi. I'm looking forward to the return of decency and just pray Yoongi has a close support system.
I pray you and your family are well!! 🙏🫶 Thank you for this video 🙏🙏🙏🫶🫶🫶🫶💜💜💜💜 for people who don't understand the meaning of things it's quite difficult to have an opinion so thank you for explaining what each color wreath means 💜💜💜💜
Can you imagine the mindset of people who are so focused on destroying others? How much darkness do people like this have inside of themselves that they can’t see any other purpose? No reason to build or to contribute into something good? I am glad you feel better. I hope your family will feel better soon.
having now seen a good photo of it it's something here in the UK you don't even require a Driving Licence for it's called a Mobility Aid and I have an elderly nieghbour eg in her 70's who uses one and it's not for the road it's for the pavement (Sidewalk for American's). The only time it' goes on a road is in order to cross the road. They also have a detachable front basket so the person can put their bag, shopping (grocceries for Americans) into. If the law is now different in the South Korea about operating it differently then Suga must obey those rules. The fact he apologised and accept the fine etc is all that needs to be done. All the lies and calling for him by anti's to be punished further is beyond the pall. It's disgusting and we know it's caused by those trying to distory BTS and HYBE. We know HYBE sue's and I'm sure they will but we'll not be told until later. So called South Korean News are nothing but rumour mongers who fail to 'Fact Check'.
DUI laws are set up to reduce risk of injury to others given the force of a moving vehicle. In South Korea, these safety regulations seem to conflict with the social drinking culture where excessive drinking seems common. Suga seems like a pragmatic, level-headed guy so if he's choosing excessive drinking over safety that says a lot. In the states, alcohol manufacturers regularly post "drink responsibly" in their advertisements and bars are expected to cut people off. Both make money off of drinking so it would be socially unacceptable to ignore or enable excessive drinking. There seem to be few social safeguards in South Korea to reduce DUIs. It seems to fall to individual responsibility which makes no sense given good decision-making goes out the window when drunk. Maybe that's what people want so they can take a holier-than-thou attitude, criticize people, and do vulgar things like send funeral wreaths rather than working to make things safer. And the media creates click-bait to fuel this behavior. It sucks.
I'm so sorry you & your wife have been ill. My family has been through that debacle three times since 2020, even though we followed all the recommended protocols for prevention & tried to be so careful. Yes, it is a mess. I am thankful we are all still here, including you & your wife! About Suga's situation, I truly don't understand people who devote their time on this planet to destroying others or reveling in someone else's mistake, misfortune, etc. It happens often in the US too, although I haven't seen the funeral flowers sent here as a hate message, so thanks for the context. Once the media latches on, the negativity & rumors multiply exponentially here too. As humans, we are given one chance to live a life. If hateful people spent even half of their time, energy, & resources they waste on hating, to being productive, kind, & helpful, they wouldn't need to focus on creating misery for someone else. Like BTS talks about in "Ugh," misplaced rage is basically waste in every sense of the word. Unfortunately I think some become addicted to outrage & mistake their anger for thriving. It really is a pathetic way to live. Life is difficult enough without manufacturing things to be angry about & causing misery for others. Just my opinion. Borahae! 💜
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I'll just say this as a black kpop fan: a lot of people are willing to hijack actual social issues to project their hatred towards others. I'll never defend Yoongi's actions, but its obvious the people who take it to these extremes don't truly care they've just found a new avenue to justify their vitriolic hate. Personally, I'm tired of fans pretending to care about racism, misogyny, etc. just so they can curse a singer they don't like. It's incredibly insincere and minimizes the actual issue.
Well now having seen the Real footage i was expecting a bigger wheeled machine only to laugh when I realised it's a mobility aid something in the UK that is used by elderly or people with a disability that makes walking a problem. In fact my 70+ nieghbour has one, the reason I recogonised it so quickly. Here they don't even require a Drivers License or Insurance for it as they are not for the Road other than to cross a road. They are for use on the pavement (footpath or Side Walk for Americans). We clearly see him trip and get up again and the police going over to check on him.
Hello, hope you could see the actual footage. I am really mad how bad this blows out and taking the report so obnoxious. I feel that if suga violated he can be punish but not to this extent and boy the suga even acknowledge his mistake. Your correct, wishes someone carreer or the person itself are those weird, pathetic individual.
To clarify, there has been no clarification on the blood alcohol levels. The original article that reported that said they heard it from an officer, but the article also stated that they can't confirm the number. Which is odd because if the source was valid and the officer they spoke to knew the correct number then that's enough to count as a confirmation. It's coming from the only set of sources who would know for sure if it's coming from the police. Unless that specific officer was not on the case and was blabbing based on what he overheard/gossip without knowing for sure. Even then, a reporter should verify before reporting information as fact. Especially since the investigation is on-going so it's odd that an officer is sharing information about an open investigation in the first place. Unless that's normal in Korean law enforcement. I know different countries do things differently so maybe that's okay there. To me it seems unprofessional to release info on an open case though where the information in question isn't even confirmed. As of now we still haven't gotten a sure response. And based on the CCTV, Suga appears to have far far too much co-ordination for 0.2%. Frankly at that level, the typical effects are said to include: loss of consciousness, non-responsive, respiratory distress, cardiac distress, lack of comprehension, severly impaired mental/physical/sensory function. It's an extreme number with extreme effects that you can see. He should have had trouble even locating his home at that level but he was riding at a reasonable speed across a stretch where there were several obstacles around yet he maneuvered through it steadily up until he got home. Then it looked like he took the corner too sharply and the wheel sort of stopped abruptly as if it caught on something or it was stopped too quickly making him fall off. Even then he prompty stood up and grabbed his helmet. That percentage doesn't seem to match up with how well he was operating. At most I'd guess around 0.12% - 0.14%. Still bad effects but not drastic. That said, we all know that riding a scooter after drinking isn't acceptable but the over-zealous reaction and misinformation being spread is out of control. Especially since it's become clear that some of the people reporting are doing so in bad faith. There was a set up that took place where several other fandoms came together to set up ARMY. They wanted the public to think that we were downplaying the incident so much that we were taking pics of ourselves drinking and driving to "support Yoongi". Really it was just antis taking pics of people in their cars with bottles of alcohol and pretending to be ARMY, posting about how we support him with a hashtag to get it trending. When we found proof that it was a set up, we tried to send it to the media to clear out names. Instead of taking down the posts, they created more videos on RUclips, turned off the comments so no one could share the truth, and started restricting the videos so most countries couldn't access it so that people outside of Korea couldn't see what they were doing. Mind you, the setup wasnt even clever. You only needed to bother to click on the profiles to see it was other fandoms but the media conveniently covered the names so no one could verify for a long time. And the photos used could be dragged and dropped into google and you'd see that they were from Pinterest. Regular people figured it out easily yet we're to believe that reporters simply saw this and spread it around without the tiniest verification. They're just using random tweets for evidence. There's something fishy about how all of this is playing out.
So agree. Thank you for your reasonable, thoughtful and socially responsible comments. The whole thing’s turned my stomach. Yoongi’s human like everyone else; all been such a ridiculous drama made by those endlessly wanting to spread hate and slander BTS. SK couldn’t be luckier in having him as a mainstay and representative.
You're actually right about the sort of people who are doing this. We discovered a ground of antis from various fandoms were gathered together chatting about how they'd come up with a way to set up ARMY using Suga's incident and how they'd create a hashtag called #sugachallenge. It was crazy seeing people take time out of their day literally plotting in an online meeting like they're apart of a meeting at a job. It was pathetic to listen to until you realize that these loser really come together to think of ways to take BTS and ARMY down. We're just fans of a group of dudes who make music. It's not that serious. The fact that fans of other groups care soooo much, especially when they could be voting and streaming and buying their faves' music. Instead of focusing on the artists they claim to stan so that they can keep growing in influence, they're busy tearing down the group who they think are taking down their faves. And the fact that one of the fandoms who was a part of this is a HYBE group's fans was crazy considering that their group operates on BTS's revenue which funds much of HYBE and therefore the labels under it. There were some fandoms I expect this from since it's their usual foolishness, but others surprised me.
People who do that are despicable and I won't even call them fans. Let's be clear though, every single fandom has these ignorant hateful people in them. Army has them, Exo-L has them, Blinks have them, MooMoos have them, etc... They are all pathetic, even the ones from groups I stan. I don't listen to BTS but I enjoy some of their variety show appearance and some of the behind the scenes stuff. Although I don't consider myself a fan I respect them for what they do. People being disrespectful need to grow up and foe those of us that would not do that, well, we need to not support those being rude, even if they are from a fandom we are in. It is very sad to see any artists being attacked and lies being spread.
It is a hard life to be an entertainer in Korea especially, hopefully Suga is mentally strong enough to handle this. Get well soon. Looking forward your reactions.
I had always dreamt of visiting SK mainly because of BTS and their love of their culture. I now longer feel that way; I am disappointed and disillusioned about the Korean society and the negligent mean spirited press , government and crazy netizens. BTS has bolstered the world’s opinion of SK yet there are constant attacks against them. I’ll just wait until BTS brings their tour to the USA.
Sorry you and your family are down sick. Always health, family, etc. come first. No need to apologize. I think all of us who are ARMY and love the guys of BTS are disgusted with all of the blow up and crap that has gone on this past week. I pray for Suga and hope he is withstanding this storm.
Gracias por explicarnos el significado de todo esto a las fans internacionales, esta gente no puede ser Army estan locos por tratar a una persona así, y no porque es Suga de BTS sino porque es un ser humano.❤
I watched another channel and apparently the First Lady,, (president’s wife) was being investigated for accepting gifts, which is not allowed as it is considered bribes, she was found guilty of this on the same day of Suga’s news release. The media decided to blow up Suga’s incident instead of the President’s wife illegal activities. People are saying media were pressured into covering it up and they used Suga to do it.
@meeq9506 In Korea I have watched similar things for decades. Presidential elections and political scandals are a recurring time for entertainer witch hunt season. They were too regular and cyclic to be coincidences. I have seen many lives destroyed via witch hunt. Always entertainers. Like a magic trick..... they are great misdirection tools.
@@komerican-og too bad our world is so corrupt. I agree with you in that Suga should accept the consequences for his error in judgement but I would be more worried about what the Government is doing.
My video was like thirty minutes longer. I edited the whole bunch out. I was getting into Korean Media treatment, BS about some hater claiming that Suga should be investigated for not working hard at his, etc. These creatures seem to come out when they smell shit. My rant was just getting to be too much. I did you guys a favor by cutting it short.
The punishment definitely doesn’t fit the crime, so many lies, all the fake news are starting to be exposed. It’s amazing how the focus is on Suga, but all other major issues like MHJ.. and other stuff going on in Korea. My only concern is SUGA .. hope he can see past all the crap. Thanks again, for being pissed and being vocal about .. everyone being way to PC about this situation because no one wants to offend anyone.. I AM PISSED TOOOOOOO… 😅
As much as I love S. Korea, K-netizens and antis in S. Korea are the absolute worst excuses for humanity I've ever heard of. International fans don't do these things at such a level. There may be one-off delulus, but they're usually ostracized for it or punished enough that they don't continue. It's like a coordinated, widespread thing in S. Korea and it's just revolting. On a national level, people like that need to be dealt with so that the mindset is no longer so seemingly accepted. After the mess that was 2019, I thought there would be more done to deal with it. I used to want to go back so badly, but the more news I see, the more I'd like to preserve what good memories I have and just leave it at that.
Hi John! I hope your wife feels better soon and I'm glad you are well. I feel your outrage, Suga has been honest about everything and has apologized, people making this a big deal and calling for Hybe to make him leave BTS are small, mean-spirited people. They want to blow out his candle so theirs burns more brightly.
There was CCTV footage released just today, and it showed that everything happened just like Suga said in his message. And as far as I know, there's been no official mention of his alcohol level. That's been only speculation by the media.
they still havent released the exact number of his breathalyzer test . they just stated initially the test given was over o.oo8% but no exact number has been released yet. also theres no reason this case hasnt been closed yet. they are using sugas current situation to block real news thats happening in SK right now. also these funeral wreaths was clearly disgusting. the things I see on X asking for him to D** etc or leave BTS is sick. If Suga leaves BTS there is no BTS. this is why suicide culture is so bad there because they are bullied so bad by their own people. its terrible. they are also still trying to figure out if it was a PM vehicle or not. because Suga stated he didnt even realize that he couldnt use that device if he had drank alcohol. and why should musicians bee held to that high standard as a politician. he is a musician. and hes been "well behaved" since debut. if he not allowed a mistake. they are also circulating rumours that he was a bully during basic training. which if anyone knows Sugas personality he doesnt even yell at people lol
Korean Army should go decorate those flowers with purple ribbon and put a sign on those flowers 'Rip Hater'.. Then send 10 of those flower back to the sender and make sure it is line up in front of their house with their name on it.. I like to see how they feel about it.. Don't do to other what others will do to u
Those wreaths of flowers are very very likely a MinHeJin action. Many people think she did this earlier also, as in last month, as part of her trying to slander BTS and big hit having to do with her lawsuits. It's a action to try and draw attention negatively towards Big Hit and BTS and Hybe. Of course I don't know if this is true but I think it sounds like a strong possibility that is from her camp. Disgusting Behavior
Those antis are not only cheap, they are coward. Those people shall be forever losers. And, foolish of them to forget that Korean ARMY is just 18% of the worldwide ARMY. Those people are so in-denial that only 32% ARMY of is documented, which are registered at the weverse who could buy merch and get free updates about KPop. Fact is that It's the global ARMY, documented or not, that makes BTS sells out their albums and concerts. They forgot that a considerable number of ARMY would buy BTS' album months or a year after release, waiting for discounted price because BTS album are actually expensive to most ARMY, which is not wrong, not to mention that most ARMY are now saving for their trips to BTS' concerts when they reunite in 2025. After all, BTS music are of quality and timeless. Worse, they are forgetting that BTS concerts in Korea are 40% foreigners. #RespectToYoongi
Has it been released that his blood alcohol level is 0.227? Just want to make sure we're stating facts here because I have not seen that officially reported by the police except in articles that dont have any proper source.
안녕하세요 평소 리액션 영상 잘 보고 있습니다. 리액션 중 평소 생각이나 드러나는 가치관이 건강하시고, 한국의 문화나 독특한 습관 ,잘 못된 번역이나 뉘앙스들을 외국인들에게 오해 없도록 열심히 풀어서 설명 해 주시는 모습이 인상 깊었습니다. 간신히 알아듣는 영어지만 잘 찾게 되었고, 한국어도 하시는 거 같아 댓글 남겨봅니다. 2,3년 전부터 갑자기 뜬 bts 영상 보고 너무 좋아하던 중 이런 일이 터져서 너무 속상하고 화가납니다. 본래 한국 언론이 언론 역할을 못한지는 꽤 되었고, 그것을 먹이로 삼아 여론이 일어나며 슈가를 거짓말쟁이, 잠재적 살인마로, 눈깔이 어쩌네 외모부터 인성, 공익요원 근무 태도 등 그 모든 것을 난도질하며 병무청에 징계를 해 달라고 청원까지하는 등 아주 매장 시켜 버리려는 움직임이 보이더군요. 이때다 싶어 물어 뜯는 악의적인 댓글이나 저런 화환은 오히려 그러려니 했어요. 아마 조회수를 노리는 유투버거나 아마 팬을 가장한 안티였을거에요. 그런데 정말 슬펐던 건 오래된 팬들 중 일부가 거짓뉴스에 속아 탈퇴하는 모습이었어요. 그렇게나 애정을 쏟던 대상이 하이에나들에게 내 던져 지자 안티들과 같이 비난을 하며 손톱만큼의 관용도 없었어요. 상황이 뭔가 정리 될 때까지 단 하루 이틀을 못 참더라구요. 슈가는 잘 못한 부분은 반성하고, 자숙하고 그에 따른 법적인 댓가만 치르면 됩니다. 멀리 봤을 때 이번 일이 슈가한테 상처보다는 좋은 경험이 되길 바래요. 다행히 오늘 새로 cctv가 떠서 팩트를 눈으로 보게 되니 새삼 사람들이 더 싫어졌어요. 정의로운척 선을 넘어 물어 뜯는 아귀같은 모습이 지긋지긋합니다. 가족 모두 빨리 건강 회복하시길 바래요💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
아름답고 강인한 우리문화와 민족에 대한 강한 자부심을 가지고 있다고 믿고 있습니다. 그러나 우리가 더욱 발전 하려면 우리의 단점을 인식하고 인정 해야만 하겠죠. 끝없는 당파 싸움과 영웅 끌어 내리기는 우리의 역사에 깊게 뿌리내려 있습니다. 우리 현 정치를 보면 알 것이고 우리나라 만큼 긴 역사에 영웅들의 부재를 봐도 알것입니다. 광화문 이순신 장군님만 봐도 투옥 당하시고 도데체 얼마를 시달리셨나요. 인간은 신이아니거늘 신의 잣대로 사람을 평가 하려하고 하나의 건수만 생기면 한 인ㅅ간 전체를 파괴하려하는 습성은 제발 고쳐야 하지 않을까 생각해 봅니다. 잘 봐 주셔서 감사합니다.
아 그리고 이런걸로 떠나는 팬이나 마녀사냥에 동참하는 모임/클럽 등은 팬이 아니며 필요하지도 않습니다. 아마 평상시에도 아미의 평판을 흐리는 인간들이 아닌가 싶네요. 화내거니 슬플일이 아니라 자가 정화되고 있으니 감사해야 한다고 생각 합니다. 사람이 완벽하지 않듯이 팬모임 또한 나쁜 구성원들이 있는데 사라져 주신다면 고마와 해야죠. 한심합니다.
Oh yes the amount of 'Drink' unit's reported have already been debunked and the Reporter who upped the figure will no doubt feel the full wrath of HYBE as HYBE sue and as Suga says 'more money for my coffee fund'.
I'm wondering how common it is in SK culture to send sarcastic funeral wreaths to your enemies? I remember MHJ's flunkies sent a bunch of funeral wreaths to Hybe HQ when her nonsense first came out in April/May. There was a row of 40 of them on the sidewalk and they are not cheap. Anybody with a brain could guess those wreaths were organized, funded, and sent by MHJ's PR firm. Do you think these new wreaths were inspired by the previous ones sent to Hybe, or is this a common thing that people do to make fun of their enemies, or could these wreaths also have been sent by MHJ's paid trolls to distract people from her latest nonsense? If sending wreaths like this is really shocking and beyond the pale, maybe it is the same people behind it as last time?
It bothers me that they are so harsh with their judgement of celebrities and yet nearly every K drama glorifies drinking.Don't get me wrong I love the dramas but this is a fact.
Hope you and your wife are feeling better, John. Covid is a real pain in the butt! Thanks for giving voice to the rant that so many of us don't have the words to articulate. I haven't been following too closely, but it seems there has been a concerted effort to sensationalise and deliberately exaggerate and fabricate information for greater impact. I didn't realise that such an advanced economy like SK would have a press that is this irresponsible. And it sounds like that's true of their officials too? It's almost as if the lives and well-being of its citizens aren't highly valued, or are only valued for certain aspects and not as a whole...? 😥
Masses are gullible. That is why education is important for a society, and the role of journalism is so important. Truth should be defended and protected by journalistic integrity, and people should be smart enough to sift through the information and make the right assessment. Because it is too easy for people in power to control masses. Look at state of America right now. News media have become a money making and propaganda tools for billionaires and politicians. Flat-out lies and one-sided propaganda are rampant. Losing all functions as journalistic entities. While level of education has been systematically degraded to a ridiculous point. Have you seen how stupid a lot of people have become? This is not a Korean thing but world wide phenomena. The world is degrading and Korea is part of it and I am so sad and afraid for the younger generations who would be hit with the brunt of the consequences. World wide protectionism and polarization to extremism always led to the same result in history. No exceptions. I just prey for the future.
@@komerican-og despite my penchant for doomsday scenarios, I try to believe that our young people will be able to swing the pendulum the other way for themselves and humankind's future!!
@onenottwoorthree I truly hope so. I really do. There has to be something us sane people can do. How can we bring extreme left and right people to come closer to middle. Where normal people are. No ideas here.
Eastern European here, those kind of flower arangements are for funerals here as well(the colours have no meaning, just the number). So it hit with all the impact when I saw pictures. These people are disturbing. I don't get why anyone would care about what he does if they're not his fans, unless he harmed someone. I agree that he messed up but from the first time I heard about it(from him on weverse), the police was already handeling the situation. So he's already been punished approprietly + needing to publicly apologise an an extra since he's a public person. I understand making a fuss if he used his money/status to avoid punishment or if he was unapologetic but this is not the case. I don't get these people. Also I don't know if this is true but i saw online that they filed a complaint to the military to investigate his service bc of this. I'm not sure exactly. Do you know anything about it? And if it's true could it affect him?
Il c'est avéré que sur la vidéo c'était pas lui, que le taux d'alcool était pas le bon chiffre diffusé , et la police a affirmé qu'ils n'ont jamais divulguer quoi que ce soit aux journalistes, donc tout ce tintamarre j'espère que SUGA n'a pas été affecté et qu'il a eut du soutient psychologique car des fausses rumeurs peuvent causer des dégâts à une personne
He drove a kickbike with a seat. Not a scooter, He drove on the pavement, not on the street. He fell when he turned in front of his building. He didn´t collapse. The K media say he had 0.27% alcohol in his blood, but the Police never released that to media. Korean media is just making up a lot of fake stories and that is also totally disgusting!
As for those Death Wreath's they are disgusting and you only send them to when someone has died. Sending them when no one has died is seen as a 'Death Threat' in many countries worldwide and would be taken seriously by the Police.
What do that cost? Who has that amount of money to send this disgusting funural flowers! I´m am just asking.....That is not armys! I do not think it is fans of other groups either.... this is some expensive stuff... say no more...
No I think he should be punished LESS than others bc BTS has contributed $4.5 billion to the economy for years and they gave a FREE concert to help the government and country
Yes but I don't want to give any ammo to those pathetic haters. They will never let it go. They shouldn't have gone to the army to begin with, with all their contribution to Korea.
@@komerican-ogyes it was discriminatory! Classical musicians exempt but not kpop, even to the degree of BTS' contribution to where non Koreans , white people speak Korean and I don't? When Korea devalues kpop what if the rest of the world has noticed and also does, that unfortunately would be like karma for the Korean economy wouldn't it. Psy had his kpop international debut which helped facilitate BTS opening the door a Crack; entities are trying to close the crack. If BTS didn't have to be shelved during their prime for 18 months they could be pushing the door much wider, facilitating more success for so many. Imo it seems there is this idea that "there can only be one, " and maybe since they know BTS are getting older and will want to have families, they maybe thought they needed BTS out of the way to make it possible for another younger group to catch on? I also wonder if it could be bad karma to take an entity like BTS who heal millions and save countless lives, they're like a cure for cancer, and subject them to an environment known to traumatize kpop idols? :((((
Thank you for your rant. We all care. Now I have a better understanding about the flowers. I’ve seen them in the past but didn’t realize their significance.
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Sorry to hear you and your family have been ill. I wish you all a quick recovery. As far as the things going on against Min Yoongi, it's just ridiculous. The people who did such things as send flowers like they did really have mental issues. They have been posting so much hate, it's insane and they have been acting like they are Army's, but real Army's would never do such things. Who ever does these things need help with their mental health.
Did you see the real footage which was released just half an hour back? The earlier footage spread by JTBC and Yonhap News was manipulated. It wasn't Suga. Now they are taking down the manipulated news and videos after enabling Suga's witch hunt for a week. The real footage shows he was riding a cycle like vehicle with a motor probably at a speed slower than he walks in his real life on the foot path and fell while taking a turn to enter his home. He wasn't lying a bit about the incident. Its very clear in the footage. He fell just in front of the house. I hope Bighit sues all media platforms and twiter accounts for spreading misinformation and harrasing him for a weak!
Really? I actually ranted on Media too. I shouldn't have edited it out. And even at that it was fake? What The F*%$&^ is wrong with these people.
@@komerican-og Yes. You can check by yourself and the sad part is Korean netizens/fans of other groups are still after him saying things like he could kill someone! Correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sorry if my statement hurts you but my understanding from seeing how Korea has been handling certain situations over the past few yours is that although most societies are toxic and often take out their frustration of living in a competitive world, on famous people, in Korea it is at a different level altogether! But it is just ironic that the good image of Korea that BTS worked so hard to create over the years is being tarnished by the people of their very own nation trying to bring them down! I find it truly unfortunate. We aren't saying he is right but it's not a crime for which he should be character assassinated and harassed like this! Where is common sense truly?
@ananyaa6664 Exactly. All of this has just enforced my image of South Korea as an extremely corrupt and bigoted nation. 😢
And he was up again immediately. With his body language, there's also no way he was as drunk as the media reported but the police can't release the real facts of an ongoing case.
No common sense. And you do not have to be sorry. Koreans do have a special group of people who seem to find joy in tearing people down. Not all but there are definitely are crazies. There are positives and negatives. You have to face your negative to actually have a chance to get better. Korea does have this problem.
Thank you for addressing this and speaking out nice and loud 💜
Thank you very much for making this video. It can sometimes be hard for outsiders like me to understand the nuances of a culture, which can be very valuable information to have. In this case, it just makes it so much worse. What horrible people indeed!
This entire case has been quite bad for the image of South Korea tbh. And I'm not talking about Suga's minor mistake; I'm talking about the way the press has behaved and how it actually ended up highlighting the headlines that would otherwise have been front page news and that someone imo tried to hide through all this chaos. Headlines, which only fuelled my impression of SK as a highly corrupt and misogynistic country that I wouldn't want to go to.
I know it's a beautiful country with a rich cultural heritage but they honestly don't deserve our guys. They should be appreciated for their contributions to the country, not hounded, dragged and exploited the way they are. But Karma is an ARMY - let her cook... 😏
I'm glad you're feeling a little better. All the best to you and your family and thank you once again. 💜
i've been an army for years and i'm also on the younger side of the fandom but not too young (just turned 16 a few months ago), yoongi has always been my favourite member of bts however I love them all equally. I struggle with severe clinical depression among other diagnosed mental disorders and through bts I felt true happiness was achievable for the first time in my life. through yoongi, I was healed from so much trauma it's hard to fully describe how much he saved me because there aren't enough words in the world to accurately describe it. By the time I was 10 I was fluent in Korean (self taught) because back then there weren't always subtitles available in english and my second language Afrikaans so I just decided to learn the language. Naturally I'm very familiar with Korean media and have criticized them for years but this is just so disgusting, they're once again starting a witch hunt only MONTHS after Lee Sun Kyun passed away because of them, they're so despicable seriously. thanks uncle John for being a safe place for us to rant and even learn more about situations like this, I'm physically sick, South Korea does not deserve Bts.
It is cheap, will do anything for attention and money Media, and loser haters that do not deserve BTS. Some of us are OK you know? ^^
I feel so terribly sad for Suga.. look at what all BTS and Yoongi has done for their country. To go to this extreme when he makes a mistake that he owned up to, apologized for and promised it wouldn't happen again. This is def not ARMY. To wish a death of career or worse... is beyond extreme.
Glad to hear it, me too!!!
Hi John, thanks for covering this. I wanted to know your thoughts on this, but I know you don’t like drama. I had heard that Suga’s alcohol level was .08, but you mentioned it was .227 %. Are the Korean news stories more exaggerated? I also heard the distance Suga rode his scooter was only 500 meters. Is that what you read or heard? Yes, he shouldn’t have been riding under the influence. 500 meters is such a short distance-even I can walk that in less than 10 minutes. It’s just terrible how those haters are acting. I feel so bad for our dear Suga. What’s wrong with those people? How do they get away with it? Anyway, thank you for giving us your thoughts and letting us know what those flowers stand for. I’m sorry you had another bout of Covid. Geez, it seems Covid is going around again, with a new Variant. Glad you’re better.
The initial report was .08 then the most recent reports said that it was .227%. Which means he would get a harsher sentence. It changes starting from .2%. Now I just heard that the video they newly got showed Suga riding for more than 2 Km and even on the sidewalk. I also read a comment that said this was doctored. It was actually of some other guy. I need to check on this but Korean Media and the psychos are nuts. The do not deserve BTS or anything good in this world.
The .227% has just been debuked as we knew it was. We now know the original footage that went out was not Suga. We now have real coverage of Suga falling over his scooter and can clearly see it is what in the UK is classified a Mobility aid (that doesn't even require a driving licence and is not for the road it's for the Pavement (side walk for Americans)and has the ability to have a front basket for the user to put their shopping/ bag etc into. We see the police officers go over to him to check on him it's much clearer than that bogus footage.
i hope you will be ok, thank you for your opinion. i totally agree with you. greetings from poland :)
As someone who is familiar with Chinese culture, those flowers triggered me too. Because I am too familiar with them. And yes. The wedding and funeral arrangements next to each other is DISGUSTING. It is embarrassing. It is so unhinged. This is such a joke to the rest of us on the outside looking in. A lot of people need a lot of help over there it seems. John, does it ever occur to you that all these toxicity contributed to the shrinking of South Korean population?
This entire situation is ridiculous and disgusting. Like these people don't have anything better to do with their lives. It's pathetic how far they would go to try to destroy someone. I hope he is doing well and trying his best not to mind them too much because he's human and this kinda thing would affect anyone.
Thank you for speaking up about this. They are the same evil people, antis and trolls with a new target. The thing is that we ARMYs do not love the BTS members because they are “perfect idols” but because they themselves are the first to admit that they are not “perfect”. Yoongi especially has never tried to hide his imperfections. He has always taken responsibility for them and has consistently worked on becoming a better person and we admire him for that as well as his genius music. No amount of lies, false news stories, flowers or evil posts will keep us from loving and supporting all seven members of BTS. 💜. p.s. glad you are getting better - we have missed you!
the actuall cctv is out, where its clear like the day that yg is driving slow on a side walk in a helmet and falls on a sharp turn to his home becase of what looks like the front wheel getting stuck. after the fall yg gets up himself, picks up his helmet, picks up the scooter, looking just ok
the speed limit was not violated, as he drove past the patrol officers on his way, the same officers that later came to him after the fall to see if he's ok. they did not stop him, they did not need to help him either
yet the first "report" that was released by kmedia said that yg was so intoxicated that he was found lying on the ground and couldn't even speak coherently!!!
we have a lost of 33 "journalists" writing false and malicious articles about the accident, each wrote more than 20. thats 600+ articles!! the hunt is hust insane
you noticed also how fast the flower wreaths have been reposted by the media? i am so 100% sure they would add fuel to the fire with a low moves like that themselves just so they have things to run their mouths about!
lying about armys doing "suga challenge" as in pretending to drive drunk, when it was never us in the first place and we did not support this stupid idea.
im so mad
i wish downfall for every outlet and every "journalist" that pushed his name into the dirt for the loud headline. let BH sue them all once the case is closed
as yoongi himself said, "The thing about idols is thay we dont gave to commit a crime or do something controversial for people to blow little things out of proportion and judge us"
I’m sorry you and your wife have been sick!
I hope she gets well soon!
Hang in there my younger schoolmate and welcome back!
The SUGA thing is absolutely unbelievable…
It is using the positive, supportive group energy of the Korean culture in a twisted dark and evil way!!
I love how Asian cultures maintain order by pulling together and promoting group harmony over individual selfish behaviors, but twisting this to punish and isolate one individual, in an exaggerated fashion that clearly is more severe than the individuals transgression,is truly deranged societal behavior!
It is group bullying that encourages a person to feel more guilt than they should… especially
in this case after a clear and sincere apology has been made by SUGA!!
This type of exaggerated bullying is clearly meant to try to tear down his self esteem and cripple him mentally!!
I hope he has developed a strong mind over the years as he has worked on himself continuously over the years and I hope he feels the humongous love and support of his fans all over the world!!
These Antis should be found and punished appropriately for bullying and personal harassment of our Min Yoongi!!
Thank you for your rant. We all care. Now I have a better understanding about the flowers. I’ve seen them in the past but didn’t realize their significance.
Did anyone notice he was immediately surrounded by THREE police officers? And then a FOURTH one arrived?? Is it just me or that’s suspiciously A LOT and OVER THE TOP for someone tripping over whole parting an electric skateboard with a handle and seat?
Yes, as if someone had already tipped them about Suga drinking and riding home. They all need to gather there. So happened he tripped and fell down. They had a good excuse to penalise him.
oh man, I missed you! please feel better soon (you and the wifey).
I agree that there should be a consequence for the incident but not to the point that people would tear down another human being. Especially one that has done nothing but love his fans and his music and contributed to the history and culture of their country.
Karma is coming.
P.S I wouldn't be surprised If Yoongi unleashes AgustD after all of this blows over.
Sending you and your spouse positive vibes for good health. I feel your frustration and agree. Suga broke the law which is wrong but he owned up to it, didn't lie and accepted his punishment. I only know about the flowers from kdramas, thank you for the clarification!💜
Your anger is well placed and justified. The whole incident has been so misrepresented just to try to hurt Yoongi. I'm looking forward to the return of decency and just pray Yoongi has a close support system.
I pray you and your family are well!! 🙏🫶 Thank you for this video 🙏🙏🙏🫶🫶🫶🫶💜💜💜💜 for people who don't understand the meaning of things it's quite difficult to have an opinion so thank you for explaining what each color wreath means 💜💜💜💜
Can you imagine the mindset of people who are so focused on destroying others? How much darkness do people like this have inside of themselves that they can’t see any other purpose? No reason to build or to contribute into something good? I am glad you feel better. I hope your family will feel better soon.
having now seen a good photo of it it's something here in the UK you don't even require a Driving Licence for it's called a Mobility Aid and I have an elderly nieghbour eg in her 70's who uses one and it's not for the road it's for the pavement (Sidewalk for American's). The only time it' goes on a road is in order to cross the road. They also have a detachable front basket so the person can put their bag, shopping (grocceries for Americans) into. If the law is now different in the South Korea about operating it differently then Suga must obey those rules. The fact he apologised and accept the fine etc is all that needs to be done. All the lies and calling for him by anti's to be punished further is beyond the pall. It's disgusting and we know it's caused by those trying to distory BTS and HYBE. We know HYBE sue's and I'm sure they will but we'll not be told until later. So called South Korean News are nothing but rumour mongers who fail to 'Fact Check'.
DUI laws are set up to reduce risk of injury to others given the force of a moving vehicle. In South Korea, these safety regulations seem to conflict with the social drinking culture where excessive drinking seems common. Suga seems like a pragmatic, level-headed guy so if he's choosing excessive drinking over safety that says a lot. In the states, alcohol manufacturers regularly post "drink responsibly" in their advertisements and bars are expected to cut people off. Both make money off of drinking so it would be socially unacceptable to ignore or enable excessive drinking. There seem to be few social safeguards in South Korea to reduce DUIs. It seems to fall to individual responsibility which makes no sense given good decision-making goes out the window when drunk. Maybe that's what people want so they can take a holier-than-thou attitude, criticize people, and do vulgar things like send funeral wreaths rather than working to make things safer. And the media creates click-bait to fuel this behavior. It sucks.
I'm so sorry you & your wife have been ill. My family has been through that debacle three times since 2020, even though we followed all the recommended protocols for prevention & tried to be so careful. Yes, it is a mess. I am thankful we are all still here, including you & your wife!
About Suga's situation, I truly don't understand people who devote their time on this planet to destroying others or reveling in someone else's mistake, misfortune, etc. It happens often in the US too, although I haven't seen the funeral flowers sent here as a hate message, so thanks for the context. Once the media latches on, the negativity & rumors multiply exponentially here too.
As humans, we are given one chance to live a life. If hateful people spent even half of their time, energy, & resources they waste on hating, to being productive, kind, & helpful, they wouldn't need to focus on creating misery for someone else.
Like BTS talks about in "Ugh," misplaced rage is basically waste in every sense of the word. Unfortunately I think some become addicted to outrage & mistake their anger for thriving. It really is a pathetic way to live. Life is difficult enough without manufacturing things to be angry about & causing misery for others. Just my opinion. Borahae! 💜
Eggs feed viruses, so does dairy but especially eggs, so everyone should abstain from eggs since viral load is the underlying cause of a lot of health problems. But certainly abstain if you're experiencing any virus or want to try to prevent
@@sc33h3o3 Interesting. I haven't heard this before. I'll look into it, thanks.
I'll just say this as a black kpop fan: a lot of people are willing to hijack actual social issues to project their hatred towards others. I'll never defend Yoongi's actions, but its obvious the people who take it to these extremes don't truly care they've just found a new avenue to justify their vitriolic hate. Personally, I'm tired of fans pretending to care about racism, misogyny, etc. just so they can curse a singer they don't like. It's incredibly insincere and minimizes the actual issue.
Well now having seen the Real footage i was expecting a bigger wheeled machine only to laugh when I realised it's a mobility aid something in the UK that is used by elderly or people with a disability that makes walking a problem. In fact my 70+ nieghbour has one, the reason I recogonised it so quickly. Here they don't even require a Drivers License or Insurance for it as they are not for the Road other than to cross a road. They are for use on the pavement (footpath or Side Walk for Americans). We clearly see him trip and get up again and the police going over to check on him.
Hello, hope you could see the actual footage. I am really mad how bad this blows out and taking the report so obnoxious. I feel that if suga violated he can be punish but not to this extent and boy the suga even acknowledge his mistake. Your correct, wishes someone carreer or the person itself are those weird, pathetic individual.
To clarify, there has been no clarification on the blood alcohol levels. The original article that reported that said they heard it from an officer, but the article also stated that they can't confirm the number. Which is odd because if the source was valid and the officer they spoke to knew the correct number then that's enough to count as a confirmation. It's coming from the only set of sources who would know for sure if it's coming from the police. Unless that specific officer was not on the case and was blabbing based on what he overheard/gossip without knowing for sure. Even then, a reporter should verify before reporting information as fact. Especially since the investigation is on-going so it's odd that an officer is sharing information about an open investigation in the first place. Unless that's normal in Korean law enforcement. I know different countries do things differently so maybe that's okay there. To me it seems unprofessional to release info on an open case though where the information in question isn't even confirmed.
As of now we still haven't gotten a sure response. And based on the CCTV, Suga appears to have far far too much co-ordination for 0.2%. Frankly at that level, the typical effects are said to include: loss of consciousness, non-responsive, respiratory distress, cardiac distress, lack of comprehension, severly impaired mental/physical/sensory function. It's an extreme number with extreme effects that you can see. He should have had trouble even locating his home at that level but he was riding at a reasonable speed across a stretch where there were several obstacles around yet he maneuvered through it steadily up until he got home. Then it looked like he took the corner too sharply and the wheel sort of stopped abruptly as if it caught on something or it was stopped too quickly making him fall off. Even then he prompty stood up and grabbed his helmet. That percentage doesn't seem to match up with how well he was operating. At most I'd guess around 0.12% - 0.14%. Still bad effects but not drastic.
That said, we all know that riding a scooter after drinking isn't acceptable but the over-zealous reaction and misinformation being spread is out of control. Especially since it's become clear that some of the people reporting are doing so in bad faith. There was a set up that took place where several other fandoms came together to set up ARMY. They wanted the public to think that we were downplaying the incident so much that we were taking pics of ourselves drinking and driving to "support Yoongi". Really it was just antis taking pics of people in their cars with bottles of alcohol and pretending to be ARMY, posting about how we support him with a hashtag to get it trending. When we found proof that it was a set up, we tried to send it to the media to clear out names. Instead of taking down the posts, they created more videos on RUclips, turned off the comments so no one could share the truth, and started restricting the videos so most countries couldn't access it so that people outside of Korea couldn't see what they were doing.
Mind you, the setup wasnt even clever. You only needed to bother to click on the profiles to see it was other fandoms but the media conveniently covered the names so no one could verify for a long time. And the photos used could be dragged and dropped into google and you'd see that they were from Pinterest. Regular people figured it out easily yet we're to believe that reporters simply saw this and spread it around without the tiniest verification. They're just using random tweets for evidence. There's something fishy about how all of this is playing out.
So agree. Thank you for your reasonable, thoughtful and socially responsible comments. The whole thing’s turned my stomach. Yoongi’s human like everyone else; all been such a ridiculous drama made by those endlessly wanting to spread hate and slander BTS. SK couldn’t be luckier in having him as a mainstay and representative.
Yes, it sure makes my blood goes up with all this media play and now, these wreath things. Stay strong uri Suga, BTS and Army 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 Apobangpo Ot7.
You're actually right about the sort of people who are doing this. We discovered a ground of antis from various fandoms were gathered together chatting about how they'd come up with a way to set up ARMY using Suga's incident and how they'd create a hashtag called #sugachallenge. It was crazy seeing people take time out of their day literally plotting in an online meeting like they're apart of a meeting at a job. It was pathetic to listen to until you realize that these loser really come together to think of ways to take BTS and ARMY down. We're just fans of a group of dudes who make music. It's not that serious. The fact that fans of other groups care soooo much, especially when they could be voting and streaming and buying their faves' music. Instead of focusing on the artists they claim to stan so that they can keep growing in influence, they're busy tearing down the group who they think are taking down their faves. And the fact that one of the fandoms who was a part of this is a HYBE group's fans was crazy considering that their group operates on BTS's revenue which funds much of HYBE and therefore the labels under it. There were some fandoms I expect this from since it's their usual foolishness, but others surprised me.
People who do that are despicable and I won't even call them fans. Let's be clear though, every single fandom has these ignorant hateful people in them. Army has them, Exo-L has them, Blinks have them, MooMoos have them, etc... They are all pathetic, even the ones from groups I stan. I don't listen to BTS but I enjoy some of their variety show appearance and some of the behind the scenes stuff. Although I don't consider myself a fan I respect them for what they do. People being disrespectful need to grow up and foe those of us that would not do that, well, we need to not support those being rude, even if they are from a fandom we are in. It is very sad to see any artists being attacked and lies being spread.
Thank you so much for this video
I meant glad to hear that you are pissed off and livid, not that you were sick😅
That would be funny though ^^ Being glad that I am sick. Hahaha
@@komerican-og Awwww, who here would be that mean, you're too sweet 😇
I am mad too. This is awful. I feel so bad for SUGA. I hope he is ok. Everyone makes mistakes. We are human.
It is a hard life to be an entertainer in Korea especially, hopefully Suga is mentally strong enough to handle this. Get well soon. Looking forward your reactions.
I had always dreamt of visiting SK mainly because of BTS and their love of their culture. I now longer feel that way; I am disappointed and disillusioned about the Korean society and the negligent mean spirited press , government and crazy netizens.
BTS has bolstered the world’s opinion of SK yet there are constant attacks against them. I’ll just wait until BTS brings their tour to the USA.
That is unfortunate. Nothing is perfect, and there will be bad apples. But denying a whole country might not be a logical idea.
Sorry you and your family are down sick. Always health, family, etc. come first. No need to apologize. I think all of us who are ARMY and love the guys of BTS are disgusted with all of the blow up and crap that has gone on this past week. I pray for Suga and hope he is withstanding this storm.
Gracias por explicarnos el significado de todo esto a las fans internacionales, esta gente no puede ser Army estan locos por tratar a una persona así, y no porque es Suga de BTS sino porque es un ser humano.❤
I watched another channel and apparently the First Lady,, (president’s wife) was being investigated for accepting gifts, which is not allowed as it is considered bribes, she was found guilty of this on the same day of Suga’s news release. The media decided to blow up Suga’s incident instead of the President’s wife illegal activities. People are saying media were pressured into covering it up and they used Suga to do it.
@meeq9506 In Korea I have watched similar things for decades. Presidential elections and political scandals are a recurring time for entertainer witch hunt season. They were too regular and cyclic to be coincidences. I have seen many lives destroyed via witch hunt. Always entertainers. Like a magic trick..... they are great misdirection tools.
@@komerican-og too bad our world is so corrupt. I agree with you in that Suga should accept the consequences for his error in judgement but I would be more worried about what the Government is doing.
Whoa. I love mad OG. 💜💜💜
Speak yourself not enough people openly speaking about how mad we all are about this bullshit
My video was like thirty minutes longer. I edited the whole bunch out. I was getting into Korean Media treatment, BS about some hater claiming that Suga should be investigated for not working hard at his, etc. These creatures seem to come out when they smell shit. My rant was just getting to be too much. I did you guys a favor by cutting it short.
The punishment definitely doesn’t fit the crime, so many lies, all the fake news are starting to be exposed. It’s amazing how the focus is on Suga, but all other major issues like MHJ.. and other stuff going on in Korea. My only concern is SUGA .. hope he can see past all the crap. Thanks again, for being pissed and being vocal about .. everyone being way to PC about this situation because no one wants to offend anyone.. I AM PISSED TOOOOOOO… 😅
Thanks for speaking up!
As much as I love S. Korea, K-netizens and antis in S. Korea are the absolute worst excuses for humanity I've ever heard of. International fans don't do these things at such a level. There may be one-off delulus, but they're usually ostracized for it or punished enough that they don't continue. It's like a coordinated, widespread thing in S. Korea and it's just revolting. On a national level, people like that need to be dealt with so that the mindset is no longer so seemingly accepted. After the mess that was 2019, I thought there would be more done to deal with it. I used to want to go back so badly, but the more news I see, the more I'd like to preserve what good memories I have and just leave it at that.
hope yall are doing okay now 🙌rest well and take care of yourself
I hope you and your family get well soon. We all feel the same as you and we are so mad about these stupid antis. We will support BTS forever 💜
Hi John! I hope your wife feels better soon and I'm glad you are well. I feel your outrage, Suga has been honest about everything and has apologized, people making this a big deal and calling for Hybe to make him leave BTS are small, mean-spirited people. They want to blow out his candle so theirs burns more brightly.
I'm wondering just how much money these people wasted on harassing Suga.
There was CCTV footage released just today, and it showed that everything happened just like Suga said in his message. And as far as I know, there's been no official mention of his alcohol level. That's been only speculation by the media.
they still havent released the exact number of his breathalyzer test . they just stated initially the test given was over o.oo8% but no exact number has been released yet. also theres no reason this case hasnt been closed yet. they are using sugas current situation to block real news thats happening in SK right now. also these funeral wreaths was clearly disgusting. the things I see on X asking for him to D** etc or leave BTS is sick. If Suga leaves BTS there is no BTS. this is why suicide culture is so bad there because they are bullied so bad by their own people. its terrible. they are also still trying to figure out if it was a PM vehicle or not. because Suga stated he didnt even realize that he couldnt use that device if he had drank alcohol. and why should musicians bee held to that high standard as a politician. he is a musician. and hes been "well behaved" since debut. if he not allowed a mistake. they are also circulating rumours that he was a bully during basic training. which if anyone knows Sugas personality he doesnt even yell at people lol
Korean Army should go decorate those flowers with purple ribbon and put a sign on those flowers 'Rip Hater'.. Then send 10 of those flower back to the sender and make sure it is line up in front of their house with their name on it.. I like to see how they feel about it.. Don't do to other what others will do to u
Those wreaths of flowers are very very likely a MinHeJin action. Many people think she did this earlier also, as in last month, as part of her trying to slander BTS and big hit having to do with her lawsuits. It's a action to try and draw attention negatively towards Big Hit and BTS and Hybe. Of course I don't know if this is true but I think it sounds like a strong possibility that is from her camp. Disgusting Behavior
Those antis are not only cheap, they are coward. Those people shall be forever losers. And, foolish of them to forget that Korean ARMY is just 18% of the worldwide ARMY. Those people are so in-denial that only 32% ARMY of is documented, which are registered at the weverse who could buy merch and get free updates about KPop. Fact is that It's the global ARMY, documented or not, that makes BTS sells out their albums and concerts. They forgot that a considerable number of ARMY would buy BTS' album months or a year after release, waiting for discounted price because BTS album are actually expensive to most ARMY, which is not wrong, not to mention that most ARMY are now saving for their trips to BTS' concerts when they reunite in 2025. After all, BTS music are of quality and timeless. Worse, they are forgetting that BTS concerts in Korea are 40% foreigners. #RespectToYoongi
Has it been released that his blood alcohol level is 0.227? Just want to make sure we're stating facts here because I have not seen that officially reported by the police except in articles that dont have any proper source.
안녕하세요 평소 리액션 영상 잘 보고 있습니다.
리액션 중 평소 생각이나 드러나는 가치관이 건강하시고,
한국의 문화나 독특한 습관 ,잘 못된 번역이나 뉘앙스들을 외국인들에게
오해 없도록 열심히 풀어서 설명 해 주시는 모습이 인상 깊었습니다.
간신히 알아듣는 영어지만 잘 찾게 되었고, 한국어도 하시는 거 같아 댓글 남겨봅니다.
2,3년 전부터 갑자기 뜬 bts 영상 보고 너무 좋아하던 중 이런 일이 터져서 너무 속상하고 화가납니다.
본래 한국 언론이 언론 역할을 못한지는 꽤 되었고,
그것을 먹이로 삼아 여론이 일어나며 슈가를 거짓말쟁이, 잠재적 살인마로, 눈깔이 어쩌네 외모부터
인성, 공익요원 근무 태도 등 그 모든 것을 난도질하며 병무청에 징계를 해 달라고 청원까지하는 등
아주 매장 시켜 버리려는 움직임이 보이더군요.
이때다 싶어 물어 뜯는 악의적인 댓글이나 저런 화환은 오히려 그러려니 했어요.
아마 조회수를 노리는 유투버거나 아마 팬을 가장한 안티였을거에요.
그런데 정말 슬펐던 건 오래된 팬들 중 일부가 거짓뉴스에 속아 탈퇴하는 모습이었어요.
그렇게나 애정을 쏟던 대상이 하이에나들에게 내 던져 지자 안티들과 같이 비난을 하며 손톱만큼의 관용도 없었어요.
상황이 뭔가 정리 될 때까지 단 하루 이틀을 못 참더라구요.
슈가는 잘 못한 부분은 반성하고, 자숙하고 그에 따른 법적인 댓가만 치르면 됩니다.
멀리 봤을 때 이번 일이 슈가한테 상처보다는 좋은 경험이 되길 바래요.
다행히 오늘 새로 cctv가 떠서 팩트를 눈으로 보게 되니 새삼 사람들이 더 싫어졌어요.
정의로운척 선을 넘어 물어 뜯는 아귀같은 모습이 지긋지긋합니다.
가족 모두 빨리 건강 회복하시길 바래요💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
아름답고 강인한 우리문화와 민족에 대한 강한 자부심을 가지고 있다고 믿고 있습니다. 그러나 우리가 더욱 발전 하려면 우리의 단점을 인식하고 인정 해야만 하겠죠. 끝없는 당파 싸움과 영웅 끌어 내리기는 우리의 역사에 깊게 뿌리내려 있습니다. 우리 현 정치를 보면 알 것이고 우리나라 만큼 긴 역사에 영웅들의 부재를 봐도 알것입니다. 광화문 이순신 장군님만 봐도 투옥 당하시고 도데체 얼마를 시달리셨나요. 인간은 신이아니거늘 신의 잣대로 사람을 평가 하려하고 하나의 건수만 생기면 한 인ㅅ간 전체를 파괴하려하는 습성은 제발 고쳐야 하지 않을까 생각해 봅니다. 잘 봐 주셔서 감사합니다.
아 그리고 이런걸로 떠나는 팬이나 마녀사냥에 동참하는 모임/클럽 등은 팬이 아니며 필요하지도 않습니다. 아마 평상시에도 아미의 평판을 흐리는 인간들이 아닌가 싶네요. 화내거니 슬플일이 아니라 자가 정화되고 있으니 감사해야 한다고 생각 합니다. 사람이 완벽하지 않듯이 팬모임 또한 나쁜 구성원들이 있는데 사라져 주신다면 고마와 해야죠. 한심합니다.
Sorry you have been ill hope you are feeling a lot better now and that your wife recover quickly.
My understanding is that the police said that they had never released the alcohol level to the press. Can you look into this?
Oh yes the amount of 'Drink' unit's reported have already been debunked and the Reporter who upped the figure will no doubt feel the full wrath of HYBE as HYBE sue and as Suga says 'more money for my coffee fund'.
I'm wondering how common it is in SK culture to send sarcastic funeral wreaths to your enemies? I remember MHJ's flunkies sent a bunch of funeral wreaths to Hybe HQ when her nonsense first came out in April/May. There was a row of 40 of them on the sidewalk and they are not cheap. Anybody with a brain could guess those wreaths were organized, funded, and sent by MHJ's PR firm. Do you think these new wreaths were inspired by the previous ones sent to Hybe, or is this a common thing that people do to make fun of their enemies, or could these wreaths also have been sent by MHJ's paid trolls to distract people from her latest nonsense?
If sending wreaths like this is really shocking and beyond the pale, maybe it is the same people behind it as last time?
Never. Guess why I was livid. Just plain unacceptable. Never seen or heard something like this in sane settings.
It bothers me that they are so harsh with their judgement of celebrities and yet nearly every K drama glorifies drinking.Don't get me wrong I love the dramas but this is a fact.
Hope you and your wife are feeling better, John. Covid is a real pain in the butt!
Thanks for giving voice to the rant that so many of us don't have the words to articulate. I haven't been following too closely, but it seems there has been a concerted effort to sensationalise and deliberately exaggerate and fabricate information for greater impact. I didn't realise that such an advanced economy like SK would have a press that is this irresponsible. And it sounds like that's true of their officials too? It's almost as if the lives and well-being of its citizens aren't highly valued, or are only valued for certain aspects and not as a whole...? 😥
Masses are gullible. That is why education is important for a society, and the role of journalism is so important. Truth should be defended and protected by journalistic integrity, and people should be smart enough to sift through the information and make the right assessment. Because it is too easy for people in power to control masses. Look at state of America right now. News media have become a money making and propaganda tools for billionaires and politicians. Flat-out lies and one-sided propaganda are rampant. Losing all functions as journalistic entities. While level of education has been systematically degraded to a ridiculous point. Have you seen how stupid a lot of people have become? This is not a Korean thing but world wide phenomena. The world is degrading and Korea is part of it and I am so sad and afraid for the younger generations who would be hit with the brunt of the consequences. World wide protectionism and polarization to extremism always led to the same result in history. No exceptions. I just prey for the future.
@@komerican-og despite my penchant for doomsday scenarios, I try to believe that our young people will be able to swing the pendulum the other way for themselves and humankind's future!!
@onenottwoorthree I truly hope so. I really do. There has to be something us sane people can do. How can we bring extreme left and right people to come closer to middle. Where normal people are. No ideas here.
Eastern European here, those kind of flower arangements are for funerals here as well(the colours have no meaning, just the number). So it hit with all the impact when I saw pictures. These people are disturbing. I don't get why anyone would care about what he does if they're not his fans, unless he harmed someone.
I agree that he messed up but from the first time I heard about it(from him on weverse), the police was already handeling the situation. So he's already been punished approprietly + needing to publicly apologise an an extra since he's a public person. I understand making a fuss if he used his money/status to avoid punishment or if he was unapologetic but this is not the case.
I don't get these people.
Also I don't know if this is true but i saw online that they filed a complaint to the military to investigate his service bc of this. I'm not sure exactly. Do you know anything about it? And if it's true could it affect him?
I talk about it on my follow up video.
Il c'est avéré que sur la vidéo c'était pas lui, que le taux d'alcool était pas le bon chiffre diffusé , et la police a affirmé qu'ils n'ont jamais divulguer quoi que ce soit aux journalistes, donc tout ce tintamarre j'espère que SUGA n'a pas été affecté et qu'il a eut du soutient psychologique car des fausses rumeurs peuvent causer des dégâts à une personne
He drove a kickbike with a seat. Not a scooter, He drove on the pavement, not on the street. He fell when he turned in front of his building. He didn´t collapse. The K media say he had 0.27% alcohol in his blood, but the Police never released that to media. Korean media is just making up a lot of fake stories and that is also totally disgusting!
As for those Death Wreath's they are disgusting and you only send them to when someone has died. Sending them when no one has died is seen as a 'Death Threat' in many countries worldwide and would be taken seriously by the Police.
What do that cost? Who has that amount of money to send this disgusting funural flowers! I´m am just asking.....That is not armys! I do not think it is fans of other groups either.... this is some expensive stuff... say no more...
Why are so many South Koreans getting Covid so many times.
Aku bahagia🥹🥹🥹,anda tau itu bukan army
No I think he should be punished LESS than others bc BTS has contributed $4.5 billion to the economy for years and they gave a FREE concert to help the government and country
Yes but I don't want to give any ammo to those pathetic haters. They will never let it go. They shouldn't have gone to the army to begin with, with all their contribution to Korea.
@@komerican-ogyes it was discriminatory! Classical musicians exempt but not kpop, even to the degree of BTS' contribution to where non Koreans , white people speak Korean and I don't? When Korea devalues kpop what if the rest of the world has noticed and also does, that unfortunately would be like karma for the Korean economy wouldn't it. Psy had his kpop international debut which helped facilitate BTS opening the door a Crack; entities are trying to close the crack. If BTS didn't have to be shelved during their prime for 18 months they could be pushing the door much wider, facilitating more success for so many. Imo it seems there is this idea that "there can only be one, " and maybe since they know BTS are getting older and will want to have families, they maybe thought they needed BTS out of the way to make it possible for another younger group to catch on? I also wonder if it could be bad karma to take an entity like BTS who heal millions and save countless lives, they're like a cure for cancer, and subject them to an environment known to traumatize kpop idols? :((((
Thank you for your rant. We all care. Now I have a better understanding about the flowers. I’ve seen them in the past but didn’t realize their significance.