before the higgs field theory was put forth, the standard model in physics had a huge problem after fermilab's collider started working. they found a boatload more particles than what the standard model predicted. they found particles that were exactly the same as other particles but their masses were vastly different. the higgs field explains this by saying that every particle moves through a field, and that's what we see as mass. the higgs boson is what imparts this mass.
To put it simply, it's supposed to be a vital key in understanding the beginning of the universe and how it all really works. The knowledge gained from such a thing would help humanity in potentially countless ways.
actually they discovered it months ago. since then they were busy confirming that it was a higgs boson. what they still dont know is which higgs boson it is. is it the one for the standard model? or is it one of the low mass higgs boson's for the super symmetry model.
its not quite like that though...they have found a higgs boson but it might not be the popularized one that people associate with it. there are two types along with their antiparticles so it could be any of the 4
THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE, THANKS FOR SHARING IT WITH US ALL IN SUCH AN ENGAGING MANNER. AT LEAST WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER ONLINE AND DISCUSS THINGS IN A CALM AND RATIONAL WAY HUH BEST OF LUCK TO YA KEEP ON THINKING THERE BUDDY
A Boson is a sub-atomic particle with an integer spin... So is that kind of like saying there is a bit-level for that particles spin and its smallest steps are defined by its precision (like and 32-bit int on a computer). Aka the univers could be a computer? Just wondering?
To me its exciting whether it was the standard model Higgs boson or not because its a new particle. I can't wait for more new particles to emerge when they hit 13 or 14 TeV. Fingers crossed they will find some hint of supersymmetry.
Ok, so you cant say if its the standard model higgs boson, but a boson it is. What about the higgs field? Is this discovery enough to state that there is a field, higgs or similar? What can be said about that?
The same question is being asked over and over again. They are unable to give a conclusive answer at this time. This press conference was a waste of time.
1330 electron masses is not what matters. What matters is ; is this particle's mass relative to the most common particle in the universe, that which is least recycled by stars being neither in demand or excess. The thermal constant says a meson here, halfway up the scale roughly, because it's DeBroglie wave would orbit your boson in S pattern across space as thermal constant in a fully kinetic universe that of which I explain in videos if anyone's interested in learning the key to reality : )
it's how science works. people dont just accept paradigm shifting and theory shattering idea's without thorough evidence. higgs had to prove over and over again that his math made sense, he then had to provide falsifiability and possible experiments on how to find the higgs boson. he got peer reviewed multiple times and they eventually accepted his thesis, from there they moved on to try to provide empirical evidence for the theory. prof higgs understands this and it's amazing how humble he is.
Could we have a process of continuous creation continuous energy exchange? Unfolding in three dimensional space because we have a process of spherical symmetry forming and breaking. An interior of a sphere is three dimensional every point in three-dimensional Euclidean space is determined by three coordinates. With these particle accelerators we are looking within the process that forms ‘time’ if we up the energy we will create 3 more for every one we or ready have!
If I'm not mistaken, the Higgs Boson is about the particle that gives mass to the other various types of particles. Right?... But if particles need to be given mass, why should there be a particle that doesn't need to be given mass? What gives mass to the particle which gives mass? :) Same with space... I always thought there's no such thing as empty space. Science also says that nothing IS something, and tries to discover what it is. But that something... it still needs space to exist in.
Wow, you've missed the point of that Douglas Adams quote by a country mile. He is poetically talking about every time science makes a discovery that would seem to explain the universe better, the discovery always leads to more crazy, inexplicable phenomena, hence the "There is another that states this has already happened.". Adams was a huge advocate of science and described himself as a radical atheist, adding the radical he said "for emphasis so i wont be asked if im agnostic"
“There is a theory which states that if ever for any reason anyone discovers what exactly the Universe is for and why it is here it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another that states that this has already happened.”-Douglas Adams
They discovered a new particle! They made announcements when they discovered the electron, proton and neutrino also, though they were predicted. It looks like the Higgs that is predicted by the Standard Model. Even though it's wildly likely to be the Higgs, there's always a chance that it has different properties than was predicted. This is why they don't want to jump to conclusions and assume that, just because they found something where they expect the Higgs, it is indeed the Higgs particle.
Are you saying Douglas Adams wasn't an atheist? There is a difference between "a poet" and "poetically" One is a noun and the other an adjective. Was Christopher Hitchens an atheist? Is Richard Dawkins( Adams' close friend ) an atheist? Both have described themselves as one. Please explain how that quote describes creation "theory" in any way. He is basically describing quantum mechanics and phenomena. Schrodingers cat for example. The effect of observation on an experiment. And so on.
You are aware that, in this case, without building specific apparatus and performing specific experimental procedures called for by the hypothesis we would have likely never found this boson, right? There may well be fields where your criticism is dead-on, where the phenomena are on a more "macro" scale, but particle physics ain't one of them. You can't simply observe without theory guiding you as to what to look for and how.
I'm just as excited as anyone else is about the boson, but I'm not interested in what conclusions people are jumping to about it. I'll patiently wait till they have an actual explanation.
No, I just point out that we are still far from finding it as the media claimed. Stop worrying, I am a scientist myslef and I would not call for what you think I would... We just have to be veery, veeery carefull as we do not understand the particles we are looking at yet. PS Being less emotional would help you a lot with critical scientific analysis
It's metaphorical. It means that every time we think we understand the universe, the universe shows us something even more inexplicable. It's not a real scientific "theory," but it's also obviously not meant to be, either. If you refuse to acknowledge the most basic consensus on how to use the English language, you have no premise to disagree...
People want simple answers. Did you find it or did you not find it. What is the difference with the and a Higgs Boson? Maybe change the name of the other so that common people understand what is going on. In many languages people don't even use "the" and "a", but express that in other way.
They found something where the standard model predicted the Higgs would be. That alone is fucking amazing. Now they just want to verify that it has all the properties the Higgs should have. It's completely possible it won't and that they'll discover a myriad of new things that will raise more questions than answers. It's certainly happened before, and will continue to happen. The quest for knowledge is endless.
All of what we thought was "reality" turning out to be an illusion is nearly impossible for a human brain to come to terms with. It's virtually irreconcilable for our mind.
From what I hear, everything predicted by the 'standard model' has been proven except this one thing, which is predicted to be the hardest to find. They know the standard model can't explain everything and are hoping the higgs will be different from what is predicted, to clue them in on where it was wrong and how to explain stuff like dark matter. I'll take their word for it being important, since I took the technology their ideas helped make, and hope this makes something snazzy in the end :P
It's a sci-fi book. That's not "abuse," it's a normal use for the sole purpose of entertainment. Sci-fi books are not used to justify genocide and ignorance. Dictionaries are just what some group of people say the most formal definition of a word should be. The connotations otherwise assigned to these words are just as important. Connotation vs denotation... I'm sure that somebody who "will NEVER accept the ignorance of others" must surely understand such basic literary terms.
Sure, ignore the fact that it's a fiction book... A tree can be a living organism, or it can be an abstract structure. Two meanings, even in the most conservative of dictionaries. Dictionaries are set by the company that sells them; they don't put all the possible connotations and newly coined words into them. If you refuse to utilize even the smallest portion of your own common sense to deduce what others are clearly saying, the fault is your own, not everybody else's.
I don´t recall mentioning whether or not I agreed with you so your statement is fatuous. I asked you on what basis you made your comment. I see that you have no basis at all. Bye.
So using a word in opposition of it's actual meaning is fine? The entire human language is just random noise that can have any meaning labeled to it? "Dictionaries are just what some group of people" you mean teachers? That group of people? Because last time I checked you learned to speak the language from someone else. I guess a tree is only a tree when it's interpreted as such. Or is a tree that concrete thing people walk on? Since I can use whatever meaning I feel and everyone will understand
Good job! But how many times did you have to spell check? But you also have to UNDERSTAND what you wright. For you see, what was self evident and accessible to everyone, but you, was the original comment.
No... they said it right there. They found a boson, they just want to make sure it's a very specific boson before they make any conclusive statements. Your "all caps" doesn't make you any more compelling...
I've never met a creationist who used this quote, or even this sentiment from Douglas Adams, to claim creationism to be true, in fact, it would not be a very convincing argument, because creationists are the ones who have been disappointed by the scientific discoveries Adams is talking about. They though the earth was the center, but science proved a heliocentric solar system. They thought our solar system was alone. It's one in the milky way. Science always reveals something more bizarre.
"refuse to acknowledge the most basic consensus" Yea, because there is this thing call a dictionary, it's the absolute definition of human language. It's never going to be okay to misuse the human language regardless of your desire to do so. It has been abused enough, I will NEVER accept the ignorance of others, and if you don't want to abide by the definitions of language then you have no place commenting on science.
Hypotetically you can simulate the universe , but not with a common comupter , with a quantum computer you can. Becouse a normal computer bits can be 1 or 0 and in quantum mechanics you can be 0 AND 1 at the same time :D
Actually, I wasn't kidding. No one has the choice to fund this facility or not. It is forcibly taken from them via taxation. You may attempt to justify this using some kind of ends-justifies-the-means kind of argument, but the fact remains that the average taxpayer is forced to pay for CERN. Since all those who try NOT to pay taxes are forced to do so, and that force is ultimately backed up by men coming with guns to take you to prison, it is quite literally at the point of a gun.
"the Higgs boson is the only visible and particular manifestation of an invisible force field that permeates space binding the Universe on a molecular level" Science Today "It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together" Obi Wan Kenobi I bet the census taker who laughed when I told him my religion was Jedi isn't laughing anymore.
they think they've found something but they are cautious, that's exactly what we expect of them, perfect!... now, let's see what the future holds for us if it's actually true.
I don't believe there is a particle phycisist in the world who would use all CAPS during an argument on RUclips. Your words are clearly those of a teenager with regular K-12 education at best.
Part of this is how politics and economics works. I get the feeling they needed to have a result to maintain funding. Of course, it can't be a complete result otherwise you'd get some f**kers trying to shut them down because that person would decide they've completed their work.
He could have grabbed the chance and gone on a "I told you so!", "I knew it all along!" etc rant. lol He didn't. He didn't discover the boson, so he declined to comment on it, as the credit isn't his. :)
wrong about what? In case you don't know how to fallow a thread my beef is the use of the word THEORY not the meaning of the idiotic quote, and to call it an intelligent comment goes to show how little you actually know. I merely pointed out how the use of the word THEORY is wrong and how it's misuse leads to problems. I also insulted your precious author by calling him out on his literal mistake. But I guess that's too much to understand isn't it?
Jesus, guys. You announced it before you have anything. So now be honest, and say, "We *do* have a new particle. And it *probably* is the our long-sought-after particle." Period.
At this point anyone with African ethnicity can get an award for say tying their shoes or doing a simple job correctly. That's my opinion. Some exceptions but not a lot.
You have some spelling errors. And since you took the time to point out one of mine (which was in fact spelled correctly, here's some for you): Answer* Haven't* Higgs Boson* Bollocks* It's* Definite*
Not interested in fictional books when concerning science. Should I eat fast food while on a diet? Should I break both my legs before a marathon? It's easy to defend someone who you like, it's called bias.
Nope, that was a bit sarcastic if anything. The problem is that by the very own axioms of quantum physics it is not possible to give certain answers. and then the god particle is jus a myth, like religion and has nothing to do with science...
Throwing around the term THEORY is the reason creationism is being taught in Texas schools, so you can spare me the "harmless cultural reference" shit, it's caused enough harm by misuse of the human language. People who have no scientific training should really keep their mouth shut about it all, regardless of fascination. Would you let someone who is interested in medical preform a dangerous surgery on you? So why should I accept this quote as being anything other than false?
"or it can be an abstract structure" no, just a tree. You defend a fictional work by insinuating it has any scientific value. Is that quote true, in it's given form? NOT THE INTERPRETED MEANING, but the actual words quoted...is it? Can you say with a clear conscience that this man knows the entire working of the universe? Can you reference the person who came up with this THEORY he claims exist? Saying the world will implode when someone divides by zero is equally stupid.
This may shock some of you but I believe there is a troll among us! Legend has it the creature went insane after it lost the caps lock button on its keyboard; thus dooming this pitiful creature to a life time of rambling absolute bullshit in all capital letters. But hey, its only a legend right?
rofl it's hilarious he's so embarassed of his post he deleted it. it was funny when he claimed he studied particle physics for years and can't grasp basic reading comprehension. he barely forms complete sentences and confuses the word falsifiable and falsified.
Stop beating yourself up. It's not too much to understand for me but it's really ok that you didn't understand it. But next time just ask some one and I'm sure they will explain it to you. Btw, spell check buddy. It will trick people into thinking you're intelligent.
before the higgs field theory was put forth, the standard model in physics had a huge problem after fermilab's collider started working. they found a boatload more particles than what the standard model predicted. they found particles that were exactly the same as other particles but their masses were vastly different. the higgs field explains this by saying that every particle moves through a field, and that's what we see as mass. the higgs boson is what imparts this mass.
To put it simply, it's supposed to be a vital key in understanding the beginning of the universe and how it all really works. The knowledge gained from such a thing would help humanity in potentially countless ways.
actually they discovered it months ago. since then they were busy confirming that it was a higgs boson. what they still dont know is which higgs boson it is. is it the one for the standard model? or is it one of the low mass higgs boson's for the super symmetry model.
Why is this just a snippett and not the entire conference?
its not quite like that though...they have found a higgs boson but it might not be the popularized one that people associate with it. there are two types along with their antiparticles so it could be any of the 4
THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE, THANKS FOR SHARING IT WITH US ALL IN SUCH AN ENGAGING MANNER. AT LEAST WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER ONLINE AND DISCUSS THINGS IN A CALM AND RATIONAL WAY HUH BEST OF LUCK TO YA KEEP ON THINKING THERE BUDDY
A Boson is a sub-atomic particle with an integer spin... So is that kind of like saying there is a bit-level for that particles spin and its smallest steps are defined by its precision (like and 32-bit int on a computer). Aka the univers could be a computer? Just wondering?
And you base that assertion on what exactly?
To me its exciting whether it was the standard model Higgs boson or not because its a new particle. I can't wait for more new particles to emerge when they hit 13 or 14 TeV. Fingers crossed they will find some hint of supersymmetry.
Ok, so you cant say if its the standard model higgs boson, but a boson it is. What about the higgs field? Is this discovery enough to state that there is a field, higgs or similar? What can be said about that?
The same question is being asked over and over again. They are unable to give a conclusive answer at this time. This press conference was a waste of time.
I don't get why the Higgs Boson important. Can someone please explain?
1330 electron masses is not what matters. What matters is ; is this particle's mass relative to the most common particle in the universe, that which is least recycled by stars being neither in demand or excess. The thermal constant says a meson here, halfway up the scale roughly, because it's DeBroglie wave would orbit your boson in S pattern across space as thermal constant in a fully kinetic universe that of which I explain in videos if anyone's interested in learning the key to reality : )
it's how science works. people dont just accept paradigm shifting and theory shattering idea's without thorough evidence. higgs had to prove over and over again that his math made sense, he then had to provide falsifiability and possible experiments on how to find the higgs boson. he got peer reviewed multiple times and they eventually accepted his thesis, from there they moved on to try to provide empirical evidence for the theory. prof higgs understands this and it's amazing how humble he is.
Could we have a process of continuous creation continuous energy exchange? Unfolding in three dimensional space because we have a process of spherical symmetry forming and breaking. An interior of a sphere is three dimensional every point in three-dimensional Euclidean space is determined by three coordinates. With these particle accelerators we are looking within the process that forms ‘time’ if we up the energy we will create 3 more for every one we or ready have!
If I'm not mistaken, the Higgs Boson is about the particle that gives mass to the other various types of particles. Right?... But if particles need to be given mass, why should there be a particle that doesn't need to be given mass? What gives mass to the particle which gives mass?
:)
Same with space... I always thought there's no such thing as empty space. Science also says that nothing IS something, and tries to discover what it is. But that something... it still needs space to exist in.
Wow, you've missed the point of that Douglas Adams quote by a country mile. He is poetically talking about every time science makes a discovery that would seem to explain the universe better, the discovery always leads to more crazy, inexplicable phenomena, hence the "There is another that states this has already happened.". Adams was a huge advocate of science and described himself as a radical atheist, adding the radical he said "for emphasis so i wont be asked if im agnostic"
“There is a theory which states that if ever for any reason anyone discovers what exactly the Universe is for and why it is here it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another that states that this has already happened.”-Douglas Adams
Not really they tried to explain why they can't give a conclusive answer
They discovered a new particle! They made announcements when they discovered the electron, proton and neutrino also, though they were predicted.
It looks like the Higgs that is predicted by the Standard Model. Even though it's wildly likely to be the Higgs, there's always a chance that it has different properties than was predicted. This is why they don't want to jump to conclusions and assume that, just because they found something where they expect the Higgs, it is indeed the Higgs particle.
Are you saying Douglas Adams wasn't an atheist? There is a difference between "a poet" and "poetically" One is a noun and the other an adjective. Was Christopher Hitchens an atheist? Is Richard Dawkins( Adams' close friend ) an atheist? Both have described themselves as one. Please explain how that quote describes creation "theory" in any way. He is basically describing quantum mechanics and phenomena. Schrodingers cat for example. The effect of observation on an experiment. And so on.
You are aware that, in this case, without building specific apparatus and performing specific experimental procedures called for by the hypothesis we would have likely never found this boson, right?
There may well be fields where your criticism is dead-on, where the phenomena are on a more "macro" scale, but particle physics ain't one of them. You can't simply observe without theory guiding you as to what to look for and how.
FINALLY!!! But it would have been a lot easier for everyone if you would have admitted you were wrong 20 comments ago.
Probably an answered question but here goes. Why are they shutting down? Not enough funding?
politician may be VIP's, but these guys on that stage are the ones that move the world
I'm just as excited as anyone else is about the boson, but I'm not interested in what conclusions people are jumping to about it. I'll patiently wait till they have an actual explanation.
No, I just point out that we are still far from finding it as the media claimed. Stop worrying, I am a scientist myslef and I would not call for what you think I would...
We just have to be veery, veeery carefull as we do not understand the particles we are looking at yet.
PS Being less emotional would help you a lot with critical scientific analysis
How can that quote possibly be interpreted to support creationism?
Why not? Matter/antimatter annihilation, for example
The last particle will be singularity particle i confirmed and I just a dot that cannot be broken down
It's metaphorical. It means that every time we think we understand the universe, the universe shows us something even more inexplicable. It's not a real scientific "theory," but it's also obviously not meant to be, either.
If you refuse to acknowledge the most basic consensus on how to use the English language, you have no premise to disagree...
People want simple answers. Did you find it or did you not find it. What is the difference with the and a Higgs Boson? Maybe change the name of the other so that common people understand what is going on. In many languages people don't even use "the" and "a", but express that in other way.
They found something where the standard model predicted the Higgs would be. That alone is fucking amazing. Now they just want to verify that it has all the properties the Higgs should have. It's completely possible it won't and that they'll discover a myriad of new things that will raise more questions than answers.
It's certainly happened before, and will continue to happen. The quest for knowledge is endless.
All of what we thought was "reality" turning out to be an illusion is nearly impossible for a human brain to come to terms with. It's virtually irreconcilable for our mind.
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4:50 "Do you think Peter Higgs... and the other man sitting to my left disserve a novel prize?" xD
I hope it is the one true standard Higgs Boson. Amazing.
From what I hear, everything predicted by the 'standard model' has been proven except this one thing, which is predicted to be the hardest to find. They know the standard model can't explain everything and are hoping the higgs will be different from what is predicted, to clue them in on where it was wrong and how to explain stuff like dark matter. I'll take their word for it being important, since I took the technology their ideas helped make, and hope this makes something snazzy in the end :P
Super-symmetry is a painful thing to accept.
"A.K.A" means "Also known as." It's an alias, another name that something or someone has.
I guess you missed the reference.
nah, you should reframed it to make it funneh
yes sure. Why not making bomb with electrons? Neutrinos? Quark top?
It's a sci-fi book. That's not "abuse," it's a normal use for the sole purpose of entertainment. Sci-fi books are not used to justify genocide and ignorance.
Dictionaries are just what some group of people say the most formal definition of a word should be. The connotations otherwise assigned to these words are just as important. Connotation vs denotation... I'm sure that somebody who "will NEVER accept the ignorance of others" must surely understand such basic literary terms.
I agree.
Sure, ignore the fact that it's a fiction book...
A tree can be a living organism, or it can be an abstract structure. Two meanings, even in the most conservative of dictionaries. Dictionaries are set by the company that sells them; they don't put all the possible connotations and newly coined words into them. If you refuse to utilize even the smallest portion of your own common sense to deduce what others are clearly saying, the fault is your own, not everybody else's.
I don´t recall mentioning whether or not I agreed with you so your statement is fatuous. I asked you on what basis you made your comment. I see that you have no basis at all. Bye.
So using a word in opposition of it's actual meaning is fine? The entire human language is just random noise that can have any meaning labeled to it? "Dictionaries are just what some group of people" you mean teachers? That group of people? Because last time I checked you learned to speak the language from someone else. I guess a tree is only a tree when it's interpreted as such. Or is a tree that concrete thing people walk on? Since I can use whatever meaning I feel and everyone will understand
who funds this CERN facility?
Good job! But how many times did you have to spell check? But you also have to UNDERSTAND what you wright. For you see, what was self evident and accessible to everyone, but you, was the original comment.
Please don't invite that kind of person to post. You know their comments are unlikely to be very enlightened.
No... they said it right there. They found a boson, they just want to make sure it's a very specific boson before they make any conclusive statements. Your "all caps" doesn't make you any more compelling...
I've never met a creationist who used this quote, or even this sentiment from Douglas Adams, to claim creationism to be true, in fact, it would not be a very convincing argument, because creationists are the ones who have been disappointed by the scientific discoveries Adams is talking about. They though the earth was the center, but science proved a heliocentric solar system. They thought our solar system was alone. It's one in the milky way. Science always reveals something more bizarre.
I think you're just kidding but you didn't put the winking smiley face after your comment.
"refuse to acknowledge the most basic consensus" Yea, because there is this thing call a dictionary, it's the absolute definition of human language. It's never going to be okay to misuse the human language regardless of your desire to do so. It has been abused enough, I will NEVER accept the ignorance of others, and if you don't want to abide by the definitions of language then you have no place commenting on science.
i wish politicians where a lot more clear with what they say like scientist are
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well done fellers, now it's on to the Flux Capacitor!!
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Hypotetically you can simulate the universe , but not with a common comupter , with a quantum computer you can. Becouse a normal computer bits can be 1 or 0 and in quantum mechanics you can be 0 AND 1 at the same time :D
That would have been a great question for these ignorant reporters to ask.
Actually, I wasn't kidding. No one has the choice to fund this facility or not. It is forcibly taken from them via taxation. You may attempt to justify this using some kind of ends-justifies-the-means kind of argument, but the fact remains that the average taxpayer is forced to pay for CERN. Since all those who try NOT to pay taxes are forced to do so, and that force is ultimately backed up by men coming with guns to take you to prison, it is quite literally at the point of a gun.
They're more likely to downthumb and run away than post.
and why is that of any significance ? ( I'm going to regret asking this )
the one who started this all and predicted a boson named after him.
He said Nobel, not novel.
"the Higgs boson is the only visible and particular manifestation of an invisible force field that permeates space binding the Universe on a molecular level" Science Today
"It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together" Obi Wan Kenobi
I bet the census taker who laughed when I told him my religion was Jedi isn't laughing anymore.
Love that Peter Higgs declined to grab attention.
they think they've found something but they are cautious, that's exactly what we expect of them, perfect!... now, let's see what the future holds for us if it's actually true.
a lot of entities
I don't believe there is a particle phycisist in the world who would use all CAPS during an argument on RUclips. Your words are clearly those of a teenager with regular K-12 education at best.
Part of this is how politics and economics works. I get the feeling they needed to have a result to maintain funding. Of course, it can't be a complete result otherwise you'd get some f**kers trying to shut them down because that person would decide they've completed their work.
This could very easily turn into a circular argument. So I'm not going to bother.
He could have grabbed the chance and gone on a "I told you so!", "I knew it all along!" etc rant. lol He didn't. He didn't discover the boson, so he declined to comment on it, as the credit isn't his. :)
wrong about what? In case you don't know how to fallow a thread my beef is the use of the word THEORY not the meaning of the idiotic quote, and to call it an intelligent comment goes to show how little you actually know. I merely pointed out how the use of the word THEORY is wrong and how it's misuse leads to problems. I also insulted your precious author by calling him out on his literal mistake. But I guess that's too much to understand isn't it?
Jesus, guys. You announced it before you have anything. So now be honest, and say, "We *do* have a new particle. And it *probably* is the our long-sought-after particle." Period.
At this point anyone with African ethnicity can get an award for say tying their shoes or doing a simple job correctly. That's my opinion. Some exceptions but not a lot.
That Nobel prize question was pretty inappropriate.
Learn to proof read your post before you make claims of ignorance.
"I can't tell you as a layman because I'M NOT A FRIGGING LAYMAN!"
You have some spelling errors. And since you took the time to point out one of mine (which was in fact spelled correctly, here's some for you):
Answer*
Haven't*
Higgs Boson*
Bollocks*
It's*
Definite*
Its not racist if its true. Also I can say whatever I want. Who are you to tell me what I can and can not do ?
Not interested in fictional books when concerning science. Should I eat fast food while on a diet? Should I break both my legs before a marathon? It's easy to defend someone who you like, it's called bias.
Nope, that was a bit sarcastic if anything. The problem is that by the very own axioms of quantum physics it is not possible to give certain answers. and then the god particle is jus a myth, like religion and has nothing to do with science...
Throwing around the term THEORY is the reason creationism is being taught in Texas schools, so you can spare me the "harmless cultural reference" shit, it's caused enough harm by misuse of the human language. People who have no scientific training should really keep their mouth shut about it all, regardless of fascination. Would you let someone who is interested in medical preform a dangerous surgery on you? So why should I accept this quote as being anything other than false?
Calm down... It's a harmless cultural reference, not religious evangelism or anti-science raging...
"or it can be an abstract structure" no, just a tree. You defend a fictional work by insinuating it has any scientific value. Is that quote true, in it's given form? NOT THE INTERPRETED MEANING, but the actual words quoted...is it? Can you say with a clear conscience that this man knows the entire working of the universe? Can you reference the person who came up with this THEORY he claims exist? Saying the world will implode when someone divides by zero is equally stupid.
MAYBE IF I USE CAPS PEOPLE WILL LISTEN TO MY NONSENSICAL RAMBLINGS.
This may shock some of you but I believe there is a troll among us! Legend has it the creature went insane after it lost the caps lock button on its keyboard; thus dooming this pitiful creature to a life time of rambling absolute bullshit in all capital letters. But hey, its only a legend right?
Ok, cool. Thank You very much :-)
Did you see his channel 0.0 he uploaded some conspiracy stuff and likes all sorts of weird nonsense...
It will take some days to confirm if it's the god particle, or have whe forget the hyperspace speeding neutrino's.
To soon for champagne.
rofl it's hilarious he's so embarassed of his post he deleted it. it was funny when he claimed he studied particle physics for years and can't grasp basic reading comprehension. he barely forms complete sentences and confuses the word falsifiable and falsified.
Its a boson !
Higgs or not , its still a new BOSON !
the other men** - that makes it a little less insulting :P
Let me translate: "As a layman, they dont know wtf they have. Send more money."
and america just wants to know if we can build a higgs bomb with it
Stop beating yourself up. It's not too much to understand for me but it's really ok that you didn't understand it. But next time just ask some one and I'm sure they will explain it to you. Btw, spell check buddy. It will trick people into thinking you're intelligent.
Probably way to nerdy for media though :/
yes that's why your the troll and put your youtube account on private.
Now you're just trying to fool me. Everyone knows you can't make a bomb out of fermions!