IS THE M2 WORTH IT? DRIVING POV/REVIEW // DO YOU NEED THE FULL M?!
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- Опубликовано: 26 янв 2024
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real life example, you buy an M140i. you remap it, fit LSD, Coilovers, bigger brakes, wheels and tyres to match the M2 Comp. your mpg has dropped significantly thanks to the mods. you've spent almost as much as the M2 Comp but now it's time to sell, no one is willing to give you more than stock m140i money for it. Moral of the story: JUST BUY THE M2 COMP.
But I don't want a coupe
@@viction7236 then buy an M140i
I did everything you just said, at the time of buying my car (M240i LCI manual) was & 20k cheaper than an M2 Comp as an approved used car in 2021 when I got it. I’ve spent about £5k in total including labour, my car is 430hp and about 75kg lighter than the M2 comp. It could use some wider tyres which I’ll do this summer. It’s certainly on the level of a stock M2 comp in manual trim, a DCT would get away for obvious reasons.
You’re right, if I sell I’ve lost money on the mods but conversely had I got the M2 comp I would have lost £12k through depreciation alone and the consumable components on the M2 are almost double that of the M240i, at most my current car has only lost £3k. MPG is still good (40+ on a run) so I see now downsides. It’s been so great I’ve kept the car longer than I normally do and have no plans to sell. Buying today however the Comp is probably the way to go, especially if you’re not sure how to mod a car and actually improve it.
Plus your get the more superior engine b58
@@rdvwgolfr5388I got stage 2+ m140i lowered LSD m4 underarms bigger breaks, XHP3 gearbox map (490bhp) does the job
Both dream cars but great to watch thankyou. Current drive a berlingo😂 however in my youth used to slide all my rwd cars. Wet roundabouts a delight even in my 45 bhp HA vauxhall viva. I chased an M2 on my 1000cc motorcycle and could not overtake. Bike slightly faster but not on windy riads. Had a 325i years ago and wrote it off in icy weather trying to be a rally driver
Hello Tom from Cyprus. Very nice video. Great job!
I've been watching a lot of your videos Tom and love how you aren't afraid to get it squirrely in the wet. Unassuming you've done a bit of track driving to feel confident doing some sideways action in the wet in this sort of car whilst still talking calmly to camera? You're the new tiff needell !!
140 with Bilstein damptronics and a Remus cat back exhaust is just a great daily driving package with some performance. M2 Comp is the better drivers car undoubtedly and looks significantly better but would be jarring to live with day to day. Struggling to think what to replace the 140 with, if I were to go bmw again it’d have to be a g series car though. F series are really getting on now
I’ve had both and the M140 for the money is amazing. To make an M2 comp worth it you’ve gotta track drive it imo
Just context… any rear wheel drive car with 400BHP+, in damp cold conditions, you can’t put the power down.
Yesss anothe one of this WOOHHOOOO !!!!!!!!!
Please could you do a review on a clio rs 1.6 turbo
I love the engine on my 240i, and it’s fun in the dry and wet. However I agree, on Uk B roads it bounces about all over the place and feels crap. My old Clio RS would have it on a twisty B road, shame, with decent suspension it would be superb
It's surprising from BMW- I used to have an M135i which felt exactly the same- you never felt entirely in control, the car wanders slightly over the bumps so you back off. I'm currently driving a Quattro TT that's 100bhp down on power but feels much sharper and more planted. On a B road and I'm pretty sure I can go just as quickly in it because of the confidence it inspires.
Previous m140i owner here and had it running stage 2+ with B8 shocks. No LSD but I grew tired of it quickly. It was rapid but always felt soft. Yes I could have spend a few thousand more on it but I couldn’t justify it as it still wouldn’t be a proper M car. Also as they are so affordable now, it opened the door to idiots buying them and ruining them. Wasn’t much fun going out for drives and passing several of them with sill looking mods and popping and banging all over the place. You’ll never get that with an M2 comp.
Can you do a the OG N55 vs m140i? :) hehe
No point the b58 smokes but the OG we’ll handle better
Another very good honest review 👏
I have a heavily modded m140i and have owned it nearly 5 years. I drove a m2c for the first time at the weekend and was very excited to finally get behind the wheel of one. But i was left a litter confused and disappointed. I just don't know if they are worth all tge extra say after 4/5 years of ownership. Yes they look better and it obviously felt sharper in the corners, not a massive amount mind. I suppose if money was no issue then id go m2c all day but for a daily driver im probably having just as much fun in my m140i.
Just haven't got bragging rights down the pub 😂
B58 is still a much nicer engine than the M2, they should have just used it with more power. IMO the B58 is the modern 2JZ
Is the bmw you own now or your old cupra better on fuel Tom?
Cupra did 220 miles to a tank and the m140i does about 200 so the cupra is very slightly better on fuel. This is town driving though. On the motorway i’ve found the 140i to actually be better on fuel
For a sporty daily would you rather a Leon Cupra or an M240i? Both are equally priced these days and insurance is similar. British weather makes me want the S3 though..
Went from a cupra 290 to an m140 so maybe different for the 2 series but the 140 is firstly more expensive for insurance by double for me, however services are cheaper surprisingly, get more mpg, the 140 is a lot more powerful stock, the cupra struggles with wheel hop when accelerating the 140 struggles with wheel spin in the wet, handling wise I think the cupra is better around tight corners but the 140 will walk bus lengths on it in the real world, it's quicker in gear, hooks up better and is a lot faster 0-60, Id advise to drive both and see what you think but the BMW is the better place to be
@@jb123564 I really appreciate that, cheers. If I go for the 240i I'd be tempted to get an LSD or at least tweak the suspension.
@@KD-vs4ll the 240 with lsd would be all over a cupra but you're talking a lot more money comparing same year same milage the BMW will cost quite a bit more, or it did nearly a year back when I traded my cupra in, don't get me wrong the cupra was a fantastic car but once you've felt the difference in the two Id feel like going back the cupra now would be a massive downgrade, go test drive both though and see what you think I'm sure the first thing you'll notice is the power difference and torque, cupras tend to Dyno around 300 whereas the 40is regularly Dyno between 350-365 from factory and it's a noticeable difference, all the best with your search
@@jb123564 thanks for your help 🙌🏼
Ihad a m140i for 3 1/2 years is a really good car and the torque is the main draw for this car . My misses now has a VW golf GTi mk8 and it handles well but front wheel drive is not ideal and in damp or wet conditions it just struggles. The BMW did spin a bit but it was entertaining
What if you currently drive a very normal car like a 1.0 fiesta, and love bmw’s because a family member has always owned them but you’ve have never properly driven one; apart from a 320d for 20 minutes. You love the sound of 6 cylinders and a playful chassis but know full well that the M140i is too much car and too big a step coming from a 1.0 fiesta, what hatchback do you pick instead?
120d is a shout. I know it’s not a 6 pot but as a temporary measure to get used to a rear wheeler, it’s a good option. Has enough power to have fun in but it’s not overkill. After that, go 3L
2006 130i
@@03Deltaintegrale yup agreed, forgot to mention that car
Decent car. 260bhp and rwd with a manual gearbox. I'd go for that or a Z4 3.0si if I was young again
Would love to see an m2 comp vs rs3 comparison
Supersport tires are absolutely shit lol I had a stage 2 m140i and it just never hooked up. Once I fitted Ps5 tires it was so much better. These scream for decent suspension, tires and an LSD.
Personally I’m an off the line person so 4 wheel drive needed for me
How does a 530e compare to the gti you tested?
very different cars. 530e is more luxurious gti is lighter and sharper
@@ParagonCarsLondon thanks for the response, what do you think would win in a drag race 1/4 mile
I’ve owned an m140i for years, drove 2 m2 comps and tbh i was disappointed.
In the end I went for an m4 comp… being a 2018/18 it has no GPF filter and is ridiculously loud. Carbon roof, adaptive dampers, better interior and HK etc, and costs similar money to a similar used m2 comp
So imo, the answer to these cars is an m4 comp lci.
Just to comment further on the m140 , they’re a cracking car and I’d say around 75% of an m-car. For that extra 25% you’re paying double. The m140i’s feel nothing like a real m. The suspension, chassis, steering, handling, lack of lsd etc. they’re simply nowhere near the feel of a true M , regardless of how good they are.
An LSD, Rear subframe inserts and B8 shocks even in standard power form the M140i will be all over the M2 competition and that's a proven fact. Map the M140i and it'll walk all over the M2
Map the M2 and the M140I is toast . FYI i have a M2 Comp
@fredrich99 you mean a mapped M2 comp? Yes, I agree, M2 comp with S55 mapped will toast M140i any day, but OG M2 with N55, no chance. B58 trumps N55 in every way.
@@flyinggoose1445I’d rather have a marginally slower OG M2 with those looks than a faster tuned M140 that any regular person would think was a run of the mill 118d. Just my opinion of course.
@@Buck3366yes I agree, depending on preference, OG M2 is far more prestigious whereas M140i is more of a daily sleeper.
N55 will struggle to get pass 450 without bigger turbo and better high pressure fuel pumps plus its open deck . S55 is a fantastic engine @@flyinggoose1445