As someone looking to buy an M2, I found this really useful, thanks Sam. I was already leaning towards the older M2 anyway, but this has helped reassure me in my decision.
@@siddsakkik So is an Ateca FR, but it's not a BMW, (and likely more reliable). I think he should have got an M4 instead. Unless there's a baby on the way too?
Green Mills this was a replacement vehicle after my first one suffered engine failure so I decided to get out whilst I was still in positive equity and the market seemed good, didn’t want to be stuck with it if I lost my job during COVID
Ben Bradshaw this was actually my second M2 comp first one suffered engine failure, so BMW replaced it for a new one for me, unfortunately I was worried about COVID and how it would affect my career, so I got out of the car in case I lost my job and was stuck with the car, and because it was a brand new one I was in a very good position to settle my finance.
@@denniswild4977 nothing a 3rd party exhaust can't fix ;) plus even an OG M2 you'd want the M Perf exhaust so you're going to want to splash out on an exhaust anyway... I'm bias too because I've got a comp 😂😂
Hey STG thank you for producing great videos as well as your knowledge with cars and your positive attitude i remember meeting you back in January of 2019 when you came to Lorbek Luxury Cars in Melbourne, you really inspired me and many others, so thank you for doing that and coming to the meet, was so fun cruising around Melbourne in a convoy of over 40 Supercars, keep up the amazing work STG!
I like the standard M2 more because its simpler, looks nicer and 13 grand is A LOT of money. I'd definitely take the M2 over the Comp. And I'd also take the 1M over both.
I wanted a 1M, but too hard to find one. So, I went for the 2019 M2C gently used with 15,000 km on the clock. My 1st M car ever and love everything about it. But now I want em all- M2, M2C and 1M- after this great vid. !!! Had a blast watching this .Thank you !
That was like watching an old top gear segment (minus sliding it round a track and gurning). Compare 2 cars and then at the end saying you wouldn't choose either and go for something else 😂. Great video Sam.
the price difference is so wide because ones a '17 with no or very little factory warranty and the other is a '20 plate with best part of 3 yrs factory warranty. ignore the sh*t info in the video and do your own research. both cars were available in 2018, so a much easier comparison than a 2017 and a 2020. Black M2 '18 plate, dct, 12,700 miles - £37,495 Orange M2 Comp, '68 plate, dct, 14,000 miles - £39,990 both cars on autotrader right now. £2.5k difference is a lot better than £15k right ? and for that you get an extra 45 bhp, nicer wheels, much improved seats, better handling, bigger brakes (bigger still on this one as it has the factory upgrade over the standard already better comp brakes), 5 months extra factory warranty and the only downside is a little bit less noise.
th3b0untyhunter that’s a cracking reply! Want to add that the added power doesn’t really make much a difference since the Comp is heavier too. Only 20kg more than an M4. But the improvement in handling and power delivery makes the comp so much of a better car. So if you’re in the market for a 2018 M2... splash the extra 2.5k and get the comp. Otherwise get an older M2 as it’s just as good a car
I have a 2017 M2 LCI, it was an early one registered in late July. Could have gone for an original one, but preferred the updated dash and rear lights of the LCI. As much as I'd love a Comp, it's just not that different to justify the extra cost. 370bhp is more than enough for the road. I tried to find a manual in Long Beach Metallic blue but they are RARE.
2018 LCI in LBB with a manual checking in! :D I had exacly the same thoughts... I came from a 125i (the 218hp inline 6 NA one) and could only testdrive the M2 on a rainy day. It tried to kill me twice that drive... That was what sold me. :)
Interesting review Sam - enjoyed and agree with points made. As a Comp owner (previous M2 owner) i moved on based on the Comp being a more compliant daily... But come the odd track day I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the original just a little.
I have an OG M2 (lci 2018) i recently fitted custom upholstered M4 competition seats. Basically M2 CS seats i suppose...😎 i purchased the seats online. They come originally from a BMW M4 competition prototype car, fitted with carbon texture cloth (Testvehicle with only 7000km’s) Very happy with these. They perform better while spirited driving and they look amazing! I sit slightly lower too. instagram.com/p/CC0xaP2HbaO/?igshid=gptmkzpc44v2 I bought mine new six months before M2 COMP was prestented. It was easy 5-7K more over the OG M2, and in my country road taxes times 4 over OG M2, so 10k plus more EASY....Not worth the money i think. 100K for an M2 CS, YOU MUST BE KIDDING. NOT WORTH IT! 😂
I bought a 2018 M2 as the M2 Competition was being introduced. My car was optioned with a package that added alcantara trip, the BMW alcantara performance parts wheel and some other items. I decided it was what I wanted, a simple car without so many of the things on the comp. And as you say, the performance if about the same. With this being at the end of the model run, I also got a nice discount. A very enjoyable car to drive when not using my 2019 330xi. I traded it earlier this year for a 991.2 Carrera.
Just saw your Instagram story about low numbers. Chin up, those that haven’t watched are missing out. I watch your videos for a few reasons, not just because it’s about a cool car. So when a video is about “less” exciting cars like ‘just’ m2’s for which I’m not in the market, there are still reasons to watch. You make the best quality videos story-wise, there’s a point to your videos rather than just driving a car because you can. The visuals are also some of the best (bar Cars with Luke). Your personality is great entertainment too and a big factor. AND then you drive epic cars in cool locations. Big fan. Keep going. Oh and your thumbnails are always on point!
Really enjoyed this. Love comparison videos of more affordable cars. Almost a classic Top Gear conclusion where you've driven two cars but then recommend one that wasn't even in the video 😄👍🏻 Love it.
I own a OG M2, that was converted to a Dinan M2 S2 thats pushing 444HP so power isnt my issue.The sound of the Comp is why i will never own a Comp. The fart machine will never sit in my garage no matter how nice its seats are.
YES!!!! well said! Money isn't really a factor... that sound IS!! I own neither, almost purchased both so i have no bias. I pre-ordered a COMP and canceled it when i heard the sound. Also pre-orderd the CS but the dealership owner's son took the only allocation they received! :( Im looking at a M2 mineral gray 6spd with 8k miles on it this weekend... wish me luck! :)
p.s. I am also going with some dinan parts and a tune. only thing i think i will somewhat miss out on is the wheels and seats... but m2 wheels arent bad either.
I have owned a cheap ass M140i for the past 4 years, it's running 455bhp/634nm and kicks the arse of any any standard or stage 1 M2, for £23,000 total spend including the purchase price ! And I have the same seats as the M2 lol ... The M2C is a much better car in every way, and I prefer the exhaust too, but here's a newsflash for you, you can change the exhaust !!! Fit a miltek to the M2C and it sounds amazing, shhhh though I don't want everyone to know.
I have the old one and think that the values will hold better due to them only being manufactured for a couple of years. Get yourself a grey one which seem harder to come by. I love the twitchy nature and it takes a very heavy right foot to get it to break in the dry.
The depreciation on the M2C is terrifying. It’ll be £30k next year. I’ve just been offered an M4C, six months old 3k miles that was nearly £80k new for £45k without even haggling. The market for M cars has collapsed and will only get worse in the coming months.
I'm so glad you pointed out that BMW's doesn't update their interiors as I have always thought that. I swear the interior designers only use two shapes the rectangle and circle on the interior of all BMW cars.
The 1M isn't really 'a few more quid a month' as most buyers of either M2 will be financed via PCP which will not be available on a 61 plate 1M making it a LOT more per month on HP.
A good comparison between the standard M2 and M2 Competition. I can now see why that Paul ended up going with the M2 Comp. If I had the money and was choosing between the two, it would be the standard M2 for me. The sound of the exhaust and price would be my reasons.
one of the interesting points i saw someone make, who drove all 3 version of this car is that as you go from M2 > M2C > M2CS , the more and more COMFORTABLE the drive gets in the car, the more it gets to be suitable as a daily driver, which is the opposite of what BMW was trying to achieve.... lol.... these are the repercussions of when you let bean-counters make the final decisions on your business strategy smh
Thanks Sam this is a really good video and comparison. I’ve got an m2 LCI and I feel that the tech (it has the dials and newer nav from the comp) versus fun factor is just spot on. I like the 1M but I feel that the step backwards in tech would be a bit much, plus the m2 was a partsbin special like the 1M so that’s why it feels more like it than the comp, which I imagine is closer to the M4 in feel. Great vid though. Thanks
I've had my M2 non comp for about 5 months now, loving every single minute of driving it. Got it remapped as well to get the hp from 365 - 420. Sounds so much better then the comp also for 10-15K cheaper. So if your looking at getting an M2 100% recommend the non comp version and get it remapped.
Having been on a road trip in my friends M2 competition for about 4000km in 6 days I can safely say that the seats are magnificent. Never got tired from the long drives, and the sound in the car wasn't tiring either. Unless you really floored it, the engine sound didn't overpower the music. The power is just unbelievable. Cruising at 200km/h feels like going 80 in a normal car, and yet, if you need to, there is still power to push it even further (which we did on several occasions). Such a great car. The only thing I don't like is the very visible exhaust muffler, looks a bit unfinished because of it. From the looks of it, it's not visible on the standard M2.
Great video Sam! I have a friend who has just bought an M2 comp to upgrade from his 1M- he regularly drives at Nordshleife. He says the the M2 comp isn’t that much better than his 1M, certainly more clinical. Interestingly, he reckons that up to 100mph the M2 comp is almost equal to his Porsche GT3.
I’m a year late,, but that’s interesting, the M2 Comp being almost equal to the GT3 is quite compliment, because the new 992 GT3 is killing it and is just an insane machine. So to say that it makes you wonder
As much as I love seeing you kicking the head in of these new expensive cars, i feel that a good portion of your viewers wont be considering a ferrari or a new porche for a few years at least. Would you consider maybe a ‘less than 10 grand’ series and drive some older, more depreciated cars and let people know what you think is a good deal for those who arent looking at something new
WhalleyRangeMassively better by many measurements, twin turbo so responds better, got more tuning capacity, closed deck block, better cooling and a better oil system.
Peer Niemann agreed the N55 only sounds better as no OPF and single turbo, the S55 is piped as a pair of 3 cylinders, so the sound could be better. But all round on every measure the S55 is better
n55 is better daily driver than s55. Who wants a 500-600 hp unless you are in the drag strip or a professional driver. I daily a 450 hp evo and it annoys me.
Great video 👍. A few points, I own a 2016 M2 and have retrofitted the LCI/M2C dials, they are easier to see in cloudy weather and are still analogue they are not actually digital, I too love analogue. I have also had the carbon and aluminium strut brace from the M4/M3/M2C retrofitted. This alone made a significant handling difference more to the chassis and suspension than the steering. The part numbers of the suspension between the M2 and M2C is confirmed as the same. All changes noted are due to the brace and yeh the car is so much more compliant and precise with it. The N55 with a sports cat such as I have sounds exotic and thuggish at the same time it's really brilliant. The M2C is more vacuum cleaner like in delivery. it is a really fun car it makes you work for the drive and grin like an idiot. I'd have the seats in the M2C though!
Here’s my 2018 LCI OG M2 with M2 CS style seats. instagram.com/p/CC0xaP2HbaO/?igshid=1ni5wkrhx1ns8 I like them more then OG ones. Much better support and they look amazing
@@Franzino all in just over a grand. And I got the CF and aluminium brace off eBay for £360, incredibly low price off a breaker. Don't expect to find that deal again. Big thread on bimmerpost forum's about the brace
Peter Wood, there are plenty of sets on eBay, at least 6 month’s ago when i was looking. I even came across a complete M2 COMP interior, red stitching...Just google BMW F82 interior for sale. Select images and scroll away...some pictures will direct you to eBay, Some from crashed car salvagers, others like mine, prototype car interiors can mainly be found with used carparts dealers on eBay. More often than not though they are complete interiors and for the better part lefthanded drive items. COMP spec seats are rare though. As are righthanded drive items. I bought mine from an independent BMW specialist in Holland. He even retrofitted the seatheating, since mine were cloth wrapped seats. He also preinstalled the airbags. I swapped/sent him my OG airbags. All F serie airbags are exchangeable, same partnumber. There are some good threads on Bimmerpost on this topic. Here’s a link from what i posted on Bimmerpost. www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25570472 This was a supprisingly easy job. Just read the threads on the forums. No coding required. Only need basic skills, take your time. Always disconnect the battery when working on airbag equipped items. Use your OG electric seatmodules if you want the electric functions to work. It’s plug and play basically. Manual seats are a great deal cheaper... if you want the illuminated seatlogo’s to lighten up then you’ll need to install some extra wiring and I believe also coding. I didn’t do so, It doesn’t bother me. You can swap all safety equipment, airbags, seatbelt tensioners from OG items to the donor seats.
Great video Sam (as always). I think I agree, out of the three, the 1m is the more special and perhaps most fun! probably not the best, but that doesn't matter
The M2C is a better car in every way than the M2. Engine, suspension, interior, looks. The only thing which matters is if you can afford to buy a better car or not. You can keep the 1M thanks, it's a fugly parts bin special, I didn't jump on the hype train for that like the fangirls.
Original M2 for me. Better looking (ie "slightly" more aggressive front bumper, non lci rear lights look better in my opinion) much better sounding too, way better wheels than the competition, only thing I would pick from the competition over the original are the seats.
Mine has been running 455bhp/634nm reliably for the past 4 years, and stands me at £23k lol ... Yes it's not as pretty as an M2 or M2C, yes it doesn't handle as well standard, but even as it is now it's been kicking the arses of most things under £100k quite easily. If I put the difference between the value of the M140i and OG M2 (lets say 15 grand) into mine, it would be an absolute weapon which destroys any standard M car, RS audi, etc, they really are the unsung hero's of BMW at the moment.
Great vid Sam, but you should have driven the 1M as well then it would have been really interesting to have a direct comparison between the three of them.
You really don’t want 500+bhp in an M2 though do you, that’s a mess. Maybe an akrapovic would help fix the noise? But you’re right, M3 and M4 with after market exhausts sound like they’re farting. I’d go manual M2 facelift with akrapovic and a gentle Litchfield tune 💪💪💪
Vrsf Dow pipe and Active Autoworks midpipe will solve all of the sound issues and then you can choose whichever axle back you fancy, stock will do as well.
I straightpiped my m2lci ( mper with decat). This car sounds insane! A lot better than the competition. Even without a pop ands bangs tune, the car makes very loud bangs on the mdm mode. I’m very happy with it. Even with the loud drone 🤣
they are both standard versions. it was a poor choice of name tbh, all the other comp versions of M cars were built and sold alongside the "lesser" version but the M2C is simply the phase 2 and relaced the original totally.
The only color i like on the M2 is the Mineral grey and this was only on the original M2. Plus the sound was enough to make me cancel my competition order when i heard it. (actually was embarrassed of the sound during a test drive later) Sales man told me to "hit it" and i looked around and said "not until we are away from this stop light" :( Im looking at a 2017 mineral gray 6spd this weekend!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel like I am the only one left with that opinion, but.... I dislike the Competition because of the kidney shape and the octagon/hexagon drls vs. the Standard M2.. So a Competition with the Standard front would be nice.
Superb content as Always Sam 🙂👍🏻 If i could have one, it would be the Comp, Although for an 'Everyday' car, it would be the 340 sport 😉👍🏻 Keep up the great work on this and behind the glass 👍🏻 All the best, Mark 👍🏻
@dj there is hardly any bmw that will get more admiration or passerby looks than a 1M, it's immediately recognisable as something special and rare even if you don't know anything about cars. Theres so many M2-M4 cars out there that you will never ever get that special feeling in them.
Regular M2 with full coilover set up, M2 Comp sport seats and some lightweight M Performance parts over M2 Comp, not like M2 Comp come out the factory flawless, still need some modding for it to ride well and handle well Just got to the end, that 1M is the ideal choice
You are so lucky in your country… here in Italy prices are out of control… cars are much more expensive. An interesting thing is that here there is less gap between normal and Comp… Nice video, thank you!😊
I had an F10 M5 for a few years and in the UK and the weather we have here I genuinely had to battle the car constantly. A mix of RWD and 600bhp, I found, was just too much and no matter how much throttle I applied, that traction light would blink at me. It’s good to know the M2 comp is a little more planted. It makes an already enjoyable drivers car that bit better in the varied weather we have here which I find is an absolute necessity in modern cars.
For me the F10 M5 is the worst M-car in history. Too much power in comparison with zero road feel and much to soft suspension. Felt nothing when driving it. M2 Competition is in a different stratosphere even if its slower on a straight line.
Great video. Both amazing cars, but different mustard. I'd take the M2 Comp if I had the pennies, but I don't so if you buy the M2 and want it faster, just take it to Motech or Birds performance. The 1M is just one of the best cars ever made.
No need to waste money on an Akra dude. Get a used M Performance exhaust for less! Check out my latest video for a sound clip and tell me that doesn't sound great!
I love your honesty. Not many car guys would come out blatantly with a preference, lest they get dumped by the manufacturer. In this case you came out on the side of the 1M. Too funny. I was thinking 1M during the entirety of this video.
Good video Sam. Well the thing is... Also you want to think how much time are you planning on keeping this car. The 1M for example is a modern classic and also entering an interesting "mile sensitive" territory. And because of manufacturing year, the m2's will depressiate very different too. That's if we are speaking money wise. But then... as a true petrolhead, the desider will be the 3 way test drive Keep on the good work and thanks for the entertainment during this crazy times
Now I have a better understanding of the two. And with the saving of money thank you for helping me decide. Well actually it made me want the comp more but in reality the m2 what id have to “settle” with
I have an M235. I’ve thought about upgrading to an M2 or M2C but I haven’t yet for a few reasons. Getting into an N55 M2 would only be for the wider body and better suspension. The N55 in the M235 is the essentially the same (both have the same forged internals) minus better oiling in the M2. I’m currently full bolt ons, on MHD’s E tune and have the XHP trans flash which takes the already amazing ZF8 trans and feeds it cocaine and Red Bull. I could just suck it up, skip the nicer look of the M2, the better suspension, keep the M235 and spend the extra money on a bigger turbo etc. The M2C does have a proper “M” engine but I think most would agree that the S55 does not sound nearly as good as the N55. Plus it has that crank hub issue. You also pay a lot more for S55 mods imo. It does sound amazing however, if single turbo’d. So is the extra 15k really worth it for me to upgrade to an M2C? If my pockets were deep enough it would be a hell yes. I would fix the crank hub and single turbo it asap. But for now, I’ll stick with the M235. For everyone else it comes down to preference and your own personal situation. If you already have an M235/M240 and not sure if the upgrade is worth it, I’d pass on both F87 cars unless you really want one then go for it. If you have neither, I’d get the M2 and mod that. If money isn’t really an issue, you plan to go big power and are willing to take care of the crank hub issue, M2C is your champ.
As someone looking to buy an M2, I found this really useful, thanks Sam. I was already leaning towards the older M2 anyway, but this has helped reassure me in my decision.
3:48 - “I like a smaller car” - the man who has just purchased a BMW SUV 😂
Was thinking the same!
But its one of the smaller SUV’S out there
@@siddsakkik So is an Ateca FR, but it's not a BMW, (and likely more reliable). I think he should have got an M4 instead. Unless there's a baby on the way too?
@@siddsakkik X3 is not small
@@ElTurfStuff something definitely fishy 🤔 going on with see-throughglass
That’s my old M2, absolutely stunning car, hurts to see it gone but it will go to a good new home.
You bought a car, ran it in, then sold it. Strange how you never kept it long enough to use it properly.
Ben Bradshaw that’s the big baller life son🤷🏻♂️
Green Mills this was a replacement vehicle after my first one suffered engine failure so I decided to get out whilst I was still in positive equity and the market seemed good, didn’t want to be stuck with it if I lost my job during COVID
Ben Bradshaw this was actually my second M2 comp first one suffered engine failure, so BMW replaced it for a new one for me, unfortunately I was worried about COVID and how it would affect my career, so I got out of the car in case I lost my job and was stuck with the car, and because it was a brand new one I was in a very good position to settle my finance.
enrique garcia nothing baller about that.
Picking my M2 OG up tomorrow. The 10-15k extra wasn’t worth it for me, plus I prefer the original M2 alloys and read end
The N55 sounds miles better too 👍
Horrible suspension and woeful brakes though compared to the M2C
Rear end? Ignoring the muffler, they’re both the same as the back...
@@MrHCars the muffler looks silly
@@denniswild4977 nothing a 3rd party exhaust can't fix ;) plus even an OG M2 you'd want the M Perf exhaust so you're going to want to splash out on an exhaust anyway...
I'm bias too because I've got a comp 😂😂
Hey STG thank you for producing great videos as well as your knowledge with cars and your positive attitude i remember meeting you back in January of 2019 when you came to Lorbek Luxury Cars in Melbourne, you really inspired me and many others, so thank you for doing that and coming to the meet, was so fun cruising around Melbourne in a convoy of over 40 Supercars, keep up the amazing work STG!
That day was definitely a highlight! Was great to meet Sam and he even took a minute to have a quick chat with me 😁
You're right about the sound of the 2017 M2 revving up higher. I have the M-Performance exhaust and it completely transforms the experience.
I like the standard M2 more because its simpler, looks nicer and 13 grand is A LOT of money. I'd definitely take the M2 over the Comp. And I'd also take the 1M over both.
I wanted a 1M, but too hard to find one. So, I went for the 2019 M2C gently used with 15,000 km on the clock. My 1st M car ever and love everything about it. But now I want em all- M2, M2C and 1M- after this great vid. !!! Had a blast watching this .Thank you !
If you want them all then you missed out the M3, M4, M5, M6, M8
@@neil9242 you are absolutely correct .
I'll start on the 1's and 2's first .
Also eyeing e46, e49 and e28 M's .
Dream.dream.dream 😅
Best enthousiast cars there are! Love my OG M2 everyday.
Any crazy service prices or problems?
I'd have one of the last 2018 original M2s with the updated digital dials
they arent digital dials
Yeah called M2 LCI was end of 2017 onwards
I have a 67 plate lci has the same I drive as the comp and the dials and the dash is different to the pre lci
@@jim8462 manual or dct?
Jesse Todd like mine! Great car.
Tony has had them both so long he may as well register them in his name 😂
That was like watching an old top gear segment (minus sliding it round a track and gurning). Compare 2 cars and then at the end saying you wouldn't choose either and go for something else 😂. Great video Sam.
M2 Comp I reckon, brilliant machine in looks and driving performance! the best M car on sale today!
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I think you know I'd argue that it's the best M car, but I may be biased 😉
Winnipeg Car Life No one knows you
@@mooiboyace actually, the OP does. Hence my familiarity. But yeah, otherwise, nobody knows me
Winnipeg Car Life M2 CS is the best M car.
I actually like the look of the standard m2 more. Good thing they're considerably cheaper.
the price difference is so wide because ones a '17 with no or very little factory warranty and the other is a '20 plate with best part of 3 yrs factory warranty.
ignore the sh*t info in the video and do your own research.
both cars were available in 2018, so a much easier comparison than a 2017 and a 2020.
Black M2 '18 plate, dct, 12,700 miles - £37,495
Orange M2 Comp, '68 plate, dct, 14,000 miles - £39,990
both cars on autotrader right now.
£2.5k difference is a lot better than £15k right ?
and for that you get an extra 45 bhp, nicer wheels, much improved seats, better handling, bigger brakes (bigger still on this one as it has the factory upgrade over the standard already better comp brakes), 5 months extra factory warranty and the only downside is a little bit less noise.
th3b0untyhunter that’s a cracking reply! Want to add that the added power doesn’t really make much a difference since the Comp is heavier too. Only 20kg more than an M4.
But the improvement in handling and power delivery makes the comp so much of a better car. So if you’re in the market for a 2018 M2... splash the extra 2.5k and get the comp. Otherwise get an older M2 as it’s just as good a car
Me too and the sound
@@th3b0untyhunter nah the wheels are nicer on the standard car. And yeah, I've heard it is quite heavy for what it is
Lol embarrassing bro
Old m2 for me , plus I love the N55 engine👌🏻
No crank hub issue?
@@fzr1000981nope
@@fzr1000981nope, my PWG n55 is sitting 205k miles rn🙏🏻 kickass engine
@@camtaliban6021 S58 for me, anything else is a dart toss
I have a 2017 M2 LCI, it was an early one registered in late July. Could have gone for an original one, but preferred the updated dash and rear lights of the LCI. As much as I'd love a Comp, it's just not that different to justify the extra cost. 370bhp is more than enough for the road. I tried to find a manual in Long Beach Metallic blue but they are RARE.
2018 LCI in LBB with a manual checking in! :D I had exacly the same thoughts... I came from a 125i (the 218hp inline 6 NA one) and could only testdrive the M2 on a rainy day. It tried to kill me twice that drive... That was what sold me. :)
@@doenaa My cheap ass M140i has 455bhp/634nm and still running it's open diff.
On the try-to-kill-ometer I score a 9.5.
Interesting review Sam - enjoyed and agree with points made.
As a Comp owner (previous M2 owner) i moved on based on the Comp being a more compliant daily... But come the odd track day I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the original just a little.
Think I'd buy the M2 and fit the M2 Comp seats 😂
Over £1000 for those I want some for mine
Lol was thinking this
And the wheels 😂
Josh the standard wheels accentuates the arches more I feel. I saw a black comp with the older wheels and it looked mean
I have an OG M2 (lci 2018) i recently fitted custom upholstered M4 competition seats. Basically M2 CS seats i suppose...😎 i purchased the seats online. They come originally from a BMW M4 competition prototype car, fitted with carbon texture cloth (Testvehicle with only 7000km’s) Very happy with these. They perform better while spirited driving and they look amazing! I sit slightly lower too. instagram.com/p/CC0xaP2HbaO/?igshid=gptmkzpc44v2
I bought mine new six months before M2 COMP was prestented. It was easy 5-7K more over the OG M2, and in my country road taxes times 4 over OG M2, so 10k plus more EASY....Not worth the money i think. 100K for an M2 CS, YOU MUST BE KIDDING. NOT WORTH IT! 😂
I bought a 2018 M2 as the M2 Competition was being introduced. My car was optioned with a package that added alcantara trip, the BMW alcantara performance parts wheel and some other items. I decided it was what I wanted, a simple car without so many of the things on the comp. And as you say, the performance if about the same. With this being at the end of the model run, I also got a nice discount. A very enjoyable car to drive when not using my 2019 330xi. I traded it earlier this year for a 991.2 Carrera.
I have the 2018 OG M2 with LCI. Many compliments. It's a keeper.
I drive an M2 comp, I haven't driven the old car, but I love the comp, just a great all round fast car!
Spot on Sam, you should do more reviews like this!
11:48 the dials are actually analog as the old ones just a different design and some trickery to make them as close to digital as possible
The only digital part is the low centre right corner
Here in Germany they cost about the same, because most people want to have the glorious sound of the OG N55.
Just saw your Instagram story about low numbers. Chin up, those that haven’t watched are missing out. I watch your videos for a few reasons, not just because it’s about a cool car. So when a video is about “less” exciting cars like ‘just’ m2’s for which I’m not in the market, there are still reasons to watch. You make the best quality videos story-wise, there’s a point to your videos rather than just driving a car because you can. The visuals are also some of the best (bar Cars with Luke). Your personality is great entertainment too and a big factor. AND then you drive epic cars in cool locations. Big fan. Keep going. Oh and your thumbnails are always on point!
Really enjoyed this. Love comparison videos of more affordable cars. Almost a classic Top Gear conclusion where you've driven two cars but then recommend one that wasn't even in the video 😄👍🏻 Love it.
I own a OG M2, that was converted to a Dinan M2 S2 thats pushing 444HP so power isnt my issue.The sound of the Comp is why i will never own a Comp. The fart machine will never sit in my garage no matter how nice its seats are.
Do Dinan do a package, want to keep the stock turbo for now though.
YES!!!! well said! Money isn't really a factor... that sound IS!! I own neither, almost purchased both so i have no bias. I pre-ordered a COMP and canceled it when i heard the sound. Also pre-orderd the CS but the dealership owner's son took the only allocation they received! :( Im looking at a M2 mineral gray 6spd with 8k miles on it this weekend... wish me luck! :)
p.s. I am also going with some dinan parts and a tune. only thing i think i will somewhat miss out on is the wheels and seats... but m2 wheels arent bad either.
I have owned a cheap ass M140i for the past 4 years, it's running 455bhp/634nm and kicks the arse of any any standard or stage 1 M2, for £23,000 total spend including the purchase price ! And I have the same seats as the M2 lol ...
The M2C is a much better car in every way, and I prefer the exhaust too, but here's a newsflash for you, you can change the exhaust !!! Fit a miltek to the M2C and it sounds amazing, shhhh though I don't want everyone to know.
I have the old one and think that the values will hold better due to them only being manufactured for a couple of years. Get yourself a grey one which seem harder to come by. I love the twitchy nature and it takes a very heavy right foot to get it to break in the dry.
Brilliant video sam if I had the extra 15k the m2c would be my choice but as I dont the m2 will be fine cheers steve 😀👍
Thanks for tuning in
You can buy m2c for 35k so y get the m2 lol donut
The depreciation on the M2C is terrifying. It’ll be £30k next year.
I’ve just been offered an M4C, six months old 3k miles that was nearly £80k new for £45k without even haggling. The market for M cars has collapsed and will only get worse in the coming months.
Chris Mcintosh corona car dealers are desperate calm down
I'm so glad you pointed out that BMW's doesn't update their interiors as I have always thought that. I swear the interior designers only use two shapes the rectangle and circle on the interior of all BMW cars.
This helped me alot, I plan on doing ohlins, recaro seats, apex wheels and simple tune. OG M2 may be the way
Superb review this Sam. I watch it back every few months. Wonderful comparisons.
I like this format! More of these
The 1M isn't really 'a few more quid a month' as most buyers of either M2 will be financed via PCP which will not be available on a 61 plate 1M making it a LOT more per month on HP.
Great shout. 👍
A good comparison between the standard M2 and M2 Competition. I can now see why that Paul ended up going with the M2 Comp. If I had the money and was choosing between the two, it would be the standard M2 for me. The sound of the exhaust and price would be my reasons.
one of the interesting points i saw someone make, who drove all 3 version of this car
is that as you go from M2 > M2C > M2CS , the more and more COMFORTABLE the drive gets in the car, the more it gets to be suitable as a daily driver,
which is the opposite of what BMW was trying to achieve.... lol....
these are the repercussions of when you let bean-counters make the final decisions on your business strategy smh
Great video Sam. I have a m2 manual 2017 and it’s awesome. Very fun car to drive and a awesome daily!
Thanks Sam this is a really good video and comparison. I’ve got an m2 LCI and I feel that the tech (it has the dials and newer nav from the comp) versus fun factor is just spot on. I like the 1M but I feel that the step backwards in tech would be a bit much, plus the m2 was a partsbin special like the 1M so that’s why it feels more like it than the comp, which I imagine is closer to the M4 in feel. Great vid though. Thanks
I've had my M2 non comp for about 5 months now, loving every single minute of driving it. Got it remapped as well to get the hp from 365 - 420. Sounds so much better then the comp also for 10-15K cheaper. So if your looking at getting an M2 100% recommend the non comp version and get it remapped.
Get a comp a exhaust and remap and just enjoy a real m engine
Who/what did you use for the remap? No extra hardware necessary?
I love Sam’s content. Always entertaining
Having been on a road trip in my friends M2 competition for about 4000km in 6 days I can safely say that the seats are magnificent. Never got tired from the long drives, and the sound in the car wasn't tiring either. Unless you really floored it, the engine sound didn't overpower the music. The power is just unbelievable. Cruising at 200km/h feels like going 80 in a normal car, and yet, if you need to, there is still power to push it even further (which we did on several occasions). Such a great car.
The only thing I don't like is the very visible exhaust muffler, looks a bit unfinished because of it. From the looks of it, it's not visible on the standard M2.
Fabulous review. Can’t believe I haven’t seen this.
Great video Sam! I have a friend who has just bought an M2 comp to upgrade from his 1M- he regularly drives at Nordshleife. He says the the M2 comp isn’t that much better than his 1M, certainly more clinical. Interestingly, he reckons that up to 100mph the M2 comp is almost equal to his Porsche GT3.
I’m a year late,, but that’s interesting, the M2 Comp being almost equal to the GT3 is quite compliment, because the new 992 GT3 is killing it and is just an insane machine.
So to say that it makes you wonder
Love the Vid as well as all the others you have posted recently
Your track choices are always on point!
As an owner of a ‘17 manual M2 you are going to LOVE LOVE LOVE the sound!
ppl are saying the brakes are bad? i recently experienced a m2c and thought the og m2 would have the same suspension and brake setup?
Think I would be happy with the original M2 and updated seats and wing mirrors!
Nice to see you giving Tony a little promo at the same time.
As much as I love seeing you kicking the head in of these new expensive cars, i feel that a good portion of your viewers wont be considering a ferrari or a new porche for a few years at least. Would you consider maybe a ‘less than 10 grand’ series and drive some older, more depreciated cars and let people know what you think is a good deal for those who arent looking at something new
Sunset orange, not sakhir.
Although I can't tell the difference either!
Great vid
its a big difference though. Sunset orange is really orange, Sakhir orange is more red.
M2, comp isn't worth £15k/50% more, just change the seats to Recaros. M2 sounds better and you don't need all the stupid adjustments.
But the s55 is definitely the better engine.
@@peerniemann7396 its got more power but is it better?
WhalleyRangeMassively better by many measurements, twin turbo so responds better, got more tuning capacity, closed deck block, better cooling and a better oil system.
Peer Niemann agreed the N55 only sounds better as no OPF and single turbo, the S55 is piped as a pair of 3 cylinders, so the sound could be better. But all round on every measure the S55 is better
n55 is better daily driver than s55. Who wants a 500-600 hp unless you are in the drag strip or a professional driver. I daily a 450 hp evo and it annoys me.
Great video 👍. A few points, I own a 2016 M2 and have retrofitted the LCI/M2C dials, they are easier to see in cloudy weather and are still analogue they are not actually digital, I too love analogue. I have also had the carbon and aluminium strut brace from the M4/M3/M2C retrofitted. This alone made a significant handling difference more to the chassis and suspension than the steering. The part numbers of the suspension between the M2 and M2C is confirmed as the same. All changes noted are due to the brace and yeh the car is so much more compliant and precise with it. The N55 with a sports cat such as I have sounds exotic and thuggish at the same time it's really brilliant. The M2C is more vacuum cleaner like in delivery. it is a really fun car it makes you work for the drive and grin like an idiot. I'd have the seats in the M2C though!
Is retrofitting the carbon and aluminium strut brace from the M4/M3/M2C a complex (expensive) procedure?
Here’s my 2018 LCI OG M2 with M2 CS style seats. instagram.com/p/CC0xaP2HbaO/?igshid=1ni5wkrhx1ns8
I like them more then OG ones. Much better support and they look amazing
@@Jb001jb those M4 comp seats? Where'd you get them from?
@@Franzino all in just over a grand. And I got the CF and aluminium brace off eBay for £360, incredibly low price off a breaker. Don't expect to find that deal again. Big thread on bimmerpost forum's about the brace
Peter Wood, there are plenty of sets on eBay, at least 6 month’s ago when i was looking. I even came across a complete M2 COMP interior, red stitching...Just google BMW F82 interior for sale. Select images and scroll away...some pictures will direct you to eBay, Some from crashed car salvagers, others like mine, prototype car interiors can mainly be found with used carparts dealers on eBay. More often than not though they are complete interiors and for the better part lefthanded drive items. COMP spec seats are rare though. As are righthanded drive items. I bought mine from an independent BMW specialist in Holland. He even retrofitted the seatheating, since mine were cloth wrapped seats. He also preinstalled the airbags. I swapped/sent him my OG airbags. All F serie airbags are exchangeable, same partnumber. There are some good threads on Bimmerpost on this topic. Here’s a link from what i posted on Bimmerpost. www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25570472 This was a supprisingly easy job. Just read the threads on the forums. No coding required. Only need basic skills, take your time. Always disconnect the battery when working on airbag equipped items. Use your OG electric seatmodules if you want the electric functions to work. It’s plug and play basically. Manual seats are a great deal cheaper... if you want the illuminated seatlogo’s to lighten up then you’ll need to install some extra wiring and I believe also coding. I didn’t do so, It doesn’t bother me. You can swap all safety equipment, airbags, seatbelt tensioners from OG items to the donor seats.
Great video Sam (as always). I think I agree, out of the three, the 1m is the more special and perhaps most fun! probably not the best, but that doesn't matter
Nice follow up from the Behind the Glass chat!
Nice video Sam! Proper comparison of both cars for anyone that doesn't know everything in-depth about the M2 series
Not proper considering some wrong observations and claims
Never thought I would see you liking bmws more. Good comparison video. You need to test drive the 1m next.
The M2C is a better car in every way than the M2.
Engine, suspension, interior, looks.
The only thing which matters is if you can afford to buy a better car or not.
You can keep the 1M thanks, it's a fugly parts bin special, I didn't jump on the hype train for that like the fangirls.
Update, just bought a 2016 M2, with 25,000 miles on, one lady owner, FSH, and garaged all it's life.
Pick it up tomorrow !!!
Really like that you are enjoying M cars again.
Original M2 for me. Better looking (ie "slightly" more aggressive front bumper, non lci rear lights look better in my opinion) much better sounding too, way better wheels than the competition, only thing I would pick from the competition over the original are the seats.
And the engine lol
And the brakes
The other problem is the 140i with optional LSD , that’s £10k less again and is a lot more practical as an only car
Mine has been running 455bhp/634nm reliably for the past 4 years, and stands me at £23k lol ... Yes it's not as pretty as an M2 or M2C, yes it doesn't handle as well standard, but even as it is now it's been kicking the arses of most things under £100k quite easily. If I put the difference between the value of the M140i and OG M2 (lets say 15 grand) into mine, it would be an absolute weapon which destroys any standard M car, RS audi, etc, they really are the unsung hero's of BMW at the moment.
I love this channel SO MUCH! Please do an M2 CS vid! (If you can get your hands on one)
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Great vid Sam, but you should have driven the 1M as well then it would have been really interesting to have a direct comparison between the three of them.
M2 Comp has analog dials also. They’re just back lit, so they look digital.
A large portion is digital (centre bottom right)
Brilliant video Sam love the content
You really don’t want 500+bhp in an M2 though do you, that’s a mess. Maybe an akrapovic would help fix the noise? But you’re right, M3 and M4 with after market exhausts sound like they’re farting.
I’d go manual M2 facelift with akrapovic and a gentle Litchfield tune 💪💪💪
Vrsf Dow pipe and Active Autoworks midpipe will solve all of the sound issues and then you can choose whichever axle back you fancy, stock will do as well.
I straightpiped my m2lci ( mper with decat). This car sounds insane! A lot better than the competition. Even without a pop ands bangs tune, the car makes very loud bangs on the mdm mode. I’m very happy with it. Even with the loud drone 🤣
Great video Sam!
If money is no object it's simple, but the standard version is great to.
they are both standard versions.
it was a poor choice of name tbh, all the other comp versions of M cars were built and sold alongside the "lesser" version
but the M2C is simply the phase 2 and relaced the original totally.
M2 LCI addresses all of the cons mentioned apart from the seats and adaptive suspension, more character than the M2 Comp for sure 👌🏼
Yeup and the m2 comp doesn't have adaptive suspension either only the m2cs received this.
The only color i like on the M2 is the Mineral grey and this was only on the original M2. Plus the sound was enough to make me cancel my competition order when i heard it. (actually was embarrassed of the sound during a test drive later) Sales man told me to "hit it" and i looked around and said "not until we are away from this stop light" :( Im looking at a 2017 mineral gray 6spd this weekend!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel like I am the only one left with that opinion, but.... I dislike the Competition because of the kidney shape and the octagon/hexagon drls vs. the Standard M2.. So a Competition with the Standard front would be nice.
I’d also consider the 1M. Hopefully this choice of having to choose which one will have to happen sooner than later
Who wouldnt?
Superb content as Always Sam 🙂👍🏻
If i could have one, it would be the Comp,
Although for an 'Everyday' car, it would be the 340 sport 😉👍🏻
Keep up the great work on this and behind the glass 👍🏻
All the best,
Mark 👍🏻
Tony has had that 1M in stock for ages.
Let's hope the recommendation finally shifts it from his stock sheet!
He hasn't found a blind person to buy it yet ?
1M is a fugly parts bin special, I never jumped on that hype train.
@dj there is hardly any bmw that will get more admiration or passerby looks than a 1M, it's immediately recognisable as something special and rare even if you don't know anything about cars. Theres so many M2-M4 cars out there that you will never ever get that special feeling in them.
Regular M2 with full coilover set up, M2 Comp sport seats and some lightweight M Performance parts over M2 Comp, not like M2 Comp come out the factory flawless, still need some modding for it to ride well and handle well
Just got to the end, that 1M is the ideal choice
The M2C rides better than OG as is
You are so lucky in your country… here in Italy prices are out of control… cars are much more expensive. An interesting thing is that here there is less gap between normal and Comp…
Nice video, thank you!😊
You can immediately see the seat difference just from looking at your position lol
M2 LCi for the win! that's exactly what I bought
I had an F10 M5 for a few years and in the UK and the weather we have here I genuinely had to battle the car constantly. A mix of RWD and 600bhp, I found, was just too much and no matter how much throttle I applied, that traction light would blink at me. It’s good to know the M2 comp is a little more planted. It makes an already enjoyable drivers car that bit better in the varied weather we have here which I find is an absolute necessity in modern cars.
For me the F10 M5 is the worst M-car in history. Too much power in comparison with zero road feel and much to soft suspension. Felt nothing when driving it. M2 Competition is in a different stratosphere even if its slower on a straight line.
Good review, job done well 👍
Great video. Both amazing cars, but different mustard. I'd take the M2 Comp if I had the pennies, but I don't so if you buy the M2 and want it faster, just take it to Motech or Birds performance. The 1M is just one of the best cars ever made.
Buy M2 LCI, fit M2 comp seats and a tune.
Great video and who cares even if it was a promotion for Gravelwood cars as Tony is a legend and deserves all the success he can handle....
Great video sam . Definitely worth going to the base m2. Sound way nice once you toss on a exhausted on
both great cars but I'd take the original m2; a little bit lighter and just a simple great sounding engine.
The standard M2 sounds a lot better!
In EU and UK where particulate filters are mandatory. Besides, different engines, you morons.
Awesome vid as always!!
Had to pause at 6:55 to leave you a comment. THANK YOU for putting both side by side for a sound comparison.
Great video Sam - thanks.
I'd like a regular M2 non-competition but LCI model years and with the Comp seats retrofitted please :)
Loved this video. 👍🏼
Sounds like you think the M2 is a shrunken M4. Personally I'd get the older M2 in manual, and fit the comp seats and an akra back box
No need to waste money on an Akra dude. Get a used M Performance exhaust for less! Check out my latest video for a sound clip and tell me that doesn't sound great!
I love your honesty. Not many car guys would come out blatantly with a preference, lest they get dumped by the manufacturer. In this case you came out on the side of the 1M. Too funny. I was thinking 1M during the entirety of this video.
Good video Sam. Well the thing is... Also you want to think how much time are you planning on keeping this car. The 1M for example is a modern classic and also entering an interesting "mile sensitive" territory. And because of manufacturing year, the m2's will depressiate very different too. That's if we are speaking money wise. But then... as a true petrolhead, the desider will be the 3 way test drive
Keep on the good work and thanks for the entertainment during this crazy times
Now I have a better understanding of the two. And with the saving of money thank you for helping me decide. Well actually it made me want the comp more but in reality the m2 what id have to “settle” with
I have an M235. I’ve thought about upgrading to an M2 or M2C but I haven’t yet for a few reasons. Getting into an N55 M2 would only be for the wider body and better suspension. The N55 in the M235 is the essentially the same (both have the same forged internals) minus better oiling in the M2. I’m currently full bolt ons, on MHD’s E tune and have the XHP trans flash which takes the already amazing ZF8 trans and feeds it cocaine and Red Bull. I could just suck it up, skip the nicer look of the M2, the better suspension, keep the M235 and spend the extra money on a bigger turbo etc. The M2C does have a proper “M” engine but I think most would agree that the S55 does not sound nearly as good as the N55. Plus it has that crank hub issue. You also pay a lot more for S55 mods imo. It does sound amazing however, if single turbo’d. So is the extra 15k really worth it for me to upgrade to an M2C? If my pockets were deep enough it would be a hell yes. I would fix the crank hub and single turbo it asap. But for now, I’ll stick with the M235. For everyone else it comes down to preference and your own personal situation. If you already have an M235/M240 and not sure if the upgrade is worth it, I’d pass on both F87 cars unless you really want one then go for it. If you have neither, I’d get the M2 and mod that. If money isn’t really an issue, you plan to go big power and are willing to take care of the crank hub issue, M2C is your champ.
Fair analysis, except that an M235i/240i will never handle like a full M even with significant mods
Went from the 240i to an OG 2018 - better than your 235i and you’re dead wrong. The feel, sound, presence, are just two completely different cars.
It wasnt more like an add this video, but rather a good piece on the M2 cars.
hoping you consider more comparison videos on such in the future :)
Which one you should buy? The one that goes around a race track faster and or what your budget allows.
Great video 👍
And on that bombshell... It’s just like in the old Top Gear, testing two cars and choosing a third one 😂 Great and interesting video! 👌
I love the Zakhir Orange on the M2 Comp!🧡
its Sunset Orange. Sakhir only for M3/M4
M2 comp manual : perfect and rare.