This Is Why NBA Fans Think The Playoffs Are Rigged
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Do you think the NBA playoffs are rigged?
Yes
No
No they are good
You should do a comparison between officiating in game 2 and game 3 of the Denver vs Minnisoda series. If you watched both games you will find game 2 a hack and slash simulator and NBA calling it best defense of the league with Wolves elbowing and hand checking. This threw Nuggets off balance and they collapsed embarrassingly. Now This hack and slash was shut down by Tony Brothers in game 3 and the Wolves were not allowed to play their normal physical game tonight which then threw the wolves off balance. And yes I am a nugget fan but after the Lakers series I just want to watch a fair and square series, funny how officiating is vastly different between the two games, and inevitably impacted the outcome.
The WWE ain't got nothing on the NBA.
letting gambling den into the nba is the biggest mistake they ever made.
You got a thumbs up, but you have to say that from a businessman's point of view it was probably a good decision. When it comes to sports, I agree with you 100%.
@@justoldschoolfrankie1111from a buisnessmans pov of course it was
@@jtproductions5363that is what he said lol
For basketball yes. For rich dudes to make even more money, it's amazing. Until it collapses.
That's why it got bigger last year with the most unpredictable outcomes. They have other people associated making the bets, and the dark side getting richer and richer. More money more control.
“Gotta win by 15 to win by 1” - Andre Iguodala
@CeeJayCarter - which the wolves successfully did in game 1 and 2 and then the refs said, ok, let’s make it 30
@@nydibs yup nasty work we’re witnessing here. In a playoffs with no Steph, Lebron, KD, they desperately need competitive series for ratings
@@nydibs finally man everybody was over here riding the Nuggets and they were given game three and four by the rest the rest of the tone for the game I don’t mind them calling Fals for Denver, but they weren’t calling anything against Denver. Kat was gonna hit and he wasn’t getting any calls.
Adam Silver got flashbanged by gambling bookies’ gold
Those refs are FELONS
It’s actually the corrupt owners like kroenke and co who have bought nba and are rigging it between themselves and refs
Those refs do what the NBA office tells them to do..See FT totals.
That's why they made "MJ" walk away for a while. To appease Vegas
The problem is the NBA protecting these crooked refs. Tim Donaghy named a few more refs involved in gambling and the NBA squashed that story within a couple of days. If the NBA made their "internal investigations" public and transparent, these refs would be more scared to try anything. But right now they probably feel emboldened by the NBA's protection.
Fans pay refs salaries
You could literally call an illegal screen on every possession to help the more marketable teams.
That's the probem. Refs decide when to whistle, when, most of the times, they simply don't.
"It was the right call!" isn't the point... and that's what's so diabolical, regarding the current situation.
*cough* warriors *cough
@@kreizeeboiyup
That roster lived off swallowed whistles on the offensive end.
San Antonio was the last real Dynasty that earned what it won.
@@ultimateyagerman Sthu
@@ultimateyagerman delusional
NBA is a BUSINESS. Their main focus isnt on making it fair. ITS TO MAKE THE MOST MONEY POSSIBLE
I feel like if they just called the games fairly, more fans would watch
@@nydibs I disagree. Ideally, Lakers and Boston should meet in the finals every year but it doesn't happen. At least, they need to stay in playoffs as much as possible. I don't mind refs helping big market teams and legendary players to make NBA more watchable. For smaller teams, the refs should officiate in a way that would make the series more interesting.
powerful motive
@@berryesseen Well they can't make it THAT obvious. Plus, BUSINESS wise, it's a good decision to let other teams and players get fame and recognization too. But who and what team? Well that's another BUSINESS decision.
@@berryesseenin other words you don’t mind rigged games in favor of big market teams?
love that the commentators never hesitate to point out unfair calls
I'm sure they'll fix that eventually
I mean it's all part of the bullshit, when you have commentators calling out bad calls it "muddies the water" then people have to do a double take to themselves and think "hmm well if they are rigging it then why would the commentators call out the refs" also the people that cover the league and shill for it can have a point to argue against the truth, it's all bullshit meant to control the consumer.
Edit: I guess i should say in my opinion.
lol they did. they put doris burke
Lakers 27 Nuggets 9 free throws,0 in second half for Nuggets.0 free throws for Jokic for whole game?
yes anything they can do 2 try there best 2 rigg NBA 4 LBJ
@@kennylynch8575 you sound like your 7
@@Kamylamy why U say that i'm telling the truth
@@kennylynch8575 how are the nba rigging it for lebron?
@@Kamylamy they already proven the lakers have had almost twice as many free-throws as the 2nd team LBJ never gets called 4 traveling or charging and U really think that any team N the NBA wanted Westbrook the NBA forced that trade
The League sickens me. I love basketball. Every time a great talent like Curry bring me back, the crooked refs pushes me away. The fact that betting is allowed throughout the league is ridiculous. I still love basketball, but I hate the NBA. The Timberwolves/Nuggets game was equally as sickening to watch as the Knicks/Pacers game.
Couldn't agree more sir. They will do whatever it takes at ANY cost to ensure Denver cannot roll through teams with proper officiating. Because that's bad for business.
Just watch the highlights and shake your head
Minnesota has lost 3 straight now. They are not letting them play defense the way they need to to win
@@louiswilliams984facts I been saying this all week jokic can push elbow u barley touch him and they blow the whistle and when he sets screens he flatlines people nothing
@@loudnoises5372they cheating for Denver
Jamal Murray not being suspended after game 2 of the WCSFs definitely raises eyebrows...🤔
The problem is inconsistency. Thats what allows the league to dictate who wins or loses, because the rules only are applied when powerful people want them to be. So, idc how the game is reffed *as long as its consistent*
If we want real competitive basketball, we need to protest inconsistency. Dont tolerate it. Because thats where the rigging occurs.
And even more so, people need to stop lying to protect their favorite teams. Thats how they get away with it, cuz they know the big fanbase for the high market teams will lie for them and help cover up what they're doing.
Protesting inconsistency is *EXACTLY* what Malone and then Murray were doing in game 2, because it had become outrageous. I believe that the refs let the technicals slide because if Malone or Murray had been thrown out it would have drawn way too much attention to the issue. Now people are discussion how the refs were supposedly biased against the *Wolves,* which is perfect cover.
KINGS vs. LAKERS
2002 Western conference playoffs. Phantom fouls especially in game 6. FBI did an investigation and the referee admitted to calling fouls under the orders of David Stern. Longer series means more commercials, more tickets, more $$.
If the team has a smaller marker and fan base, NBA will screw them.
10 million people in Los Angeles and even more fans nation wide. That's probably why Lakers have the most free throws
Everyone points to game 6. That entire series was obviously carried by the officiating, with 2 teams caught in the crossfire. They didn’t care who won, they just wanted 7 games.
Its all began with Covid era man. Gamblin with online money goin mainstream and all of these franchise league become tools. Not really a good sports anymore.
@@Gemini050788 Wrong. The Lakers are arguably the marquee team of the league. It was absolutely rigged in their favor. Overrated chucker Kobe is still popular based on rigged crap like that.
Game 6 1998 ecf with jordan and bulls, 4 phantom fouls in the span of a minute to kill pacer's momentum and give the bulls a 6 point lead. Absolutely diabolical
It starts from the top. It's not the refs fault. They're just following orders. Also, even after the investigation- nothing changed. League is corrupted beyond repair.
I've said it for years. What ppl don't understand about leagues fixing games is that the league profits no matter who wins, but they have teams of ppl calculating how much more they'll profit if a specific team wins. Based on whichever outcome is most profitable, they have their refs favor a team just enough to increase the probability of that team winning. But they are fine no matter what the outcome is.
The most important thing to remember is that the league belongs to them. They can fix games if they want to. The games are literally a product that they are selling. It isn't scripted like the WWE but it is only entertainment.
What data supports this silly idea?
@@milart12 It's pretty obvious the games aren't fully scripted and it's obvious the team being favored doesn't always win.
If you didn't know that corporations have financial analysts who make projections, then I don't know what to tell you. The most important thing to understand is that there's no law against a league telling its refs to go easy on one team as long as it isn't directly tied to gambling. The NBA can legally look at their projected revenue if team X wins the title and instruct their refs to do things that increase the odds of that outcome. They don't even have to tell the refs all the details. And we're talking about billions of dollars. If you think billionaires leave billions completely to chance then more power to you.
@@BruvahSulaiman You side stepped my question. If you don't know that corporations have financial analysts who make projections? What on earth do you mean by that?
What evidence do you have that the league tells referees to "go easy" on a team. What evidence do you have that referees do, in fact, "go easy" on some teams?
Be more specific. Does "the league" get together with the referees at the beginning of the year and tell them that they want Team X to win the title this year. Do they get together with the referees before each series? If "the league" doesn't even tell the referees the details, are you telling me that the referees simply infer what the league wants and acts accordingly?
So, what is the plan this year? I'm dying to know.
The last 5 NBA champs were the Nuggets, Warriors, Bucks, Lakers and Raptors. What sort of "financial analysis" went into these outcomes?
@milart12
It's common knowledge that the league makes and changes its own rules. They review their own refs and tell them what to crack down on and when. Your request is nonsensical.
When they told the public that they would crack down on non basketball moves to draw fouls, that was literally an example of them being transparent about the obvious fact that they tell the refs what to crack down on. Did you think that the refs operated independently and made the decision to crack down on that on their own? Do you not acknowledge the obvious fact that this specific crack down negatively affects a player like Steph Curry more than it affects a player like Giannis or AD?
If you simply add the facts together, the picture is clear.
1. Entertainment is their product. Not fair competition. They have no legal obligation to emphasize fair competition over entertainment
2. They tell their refs what to focus on whenever they see fit to do so.
3. You can see if you watch the games that they aren't focused on the same things across the board in every game or series.
4. They pay ppl for the specific purpose of letting them know what will make them the most money.
There is no reason to calculate potential ratings or earnings if you are just going to sit back and leave it all to chance.
@@BruvahSulaiman There is no question that the NBA periodically instructs the referees to call or not certain "types" of fouls. But that is for the good of the game and to make a more exciting product for the fans, not to favor one team over the other.
Steph Curry is one of THE most popular players in the game. Are you saying that the league is instructing the referees to "crack down" on Curry, reducing the chances of the Warriors advancing in the playoffs, in order for the Milwaukee Bucks, playing in one of the smallest NBA markets, to advance to the finals.? You must realize how silly that is.
Your final pronounces are laughably vague. There is no doubt that professional sports is entertainment. But the rest of your comments are the product of your fevered imagination.
They tell the referees to focus on whatever they see fit. Yeah...and. Does this favor one team over the other?
You can see by watching the games that they aren't focused on the same things across the board in every game or series.
Ok-What are "they" focusing on in the Celtics v Cavs series?
Mavericks v OKC?
Nuggets v Timberwolves?
Knicks v Pacers?
They pay people for the specific purpose of letting them know what will make them the most money- What will make the NBA the most money and what, specifically, are they telling the refs. And, how on earth do you know this? What data do you have to support this?
It's been RIGGED for the Lakers since the 80s. I know for a Fact it happened in the 2000 and 2002 WCF Gifting 2 Titles too Kobe and Shaq. Fuck Portland and Sacramento. Kobe and Shaq Make MONEY!!!
Okay chill out, it’s Shaquille o fricken Neal 🤣 he’s gonna dominate
@@Robo927that’s the diesel fuck is he talking about! Plus the Black Mamba was an Assassin are you forgetting?
@@LightHouseAbbayelthat’s true.. and I love Shaw and Kobe’s Lakers as they were really the Jordan Bulls remixed
But Chris is right.. They rigged thats series and Sac rightfully should have been in the finals..
But we wouldn’t probably be entertaining mamba as the best next to Mj at the two.. so you’re both right
its was 100% rigged for those clowns.
@@LightHouseAbbayel Kobe is the most overrated chucking loser in NBA history. A manufactured "champion". Those rigged series made me quit watching basketball for years. Same with Wade's Heat vs the Mavericks. After Dallas was up two games to none, midway thru the 2nd quarter of Game 3, Wade got every flopping call in history to win the series. Totally rigged.
For real basketball fans with a brain it’s obvious that the refs are throwing games. It’s got so bad I might move on and quit watching. For some teams I like it feels like I’m watching just to see if they can beat the refs and not the other team.
Clearer than rain. Will A I be officiating these games in the very near future?
@@user-dz6jg3tn4wdon’t think they need to do that maybe have refs do postgame interviews
@@user-dz6jg3tn4w AI is being used by right now, by the gambling side
It's not the refs, bro. It's the league. They can easily solve the reffing issue, but they won't. Why? Because the refs are an extension of their hand- how they can manipulate games. The refs are just there so fans can blame them instead.
@@user-dz6jg3tn4w exactly just add required post game interviews to the contract..
Every Jokic post up is two or three calls not made, it's insane how much defenders are allowed to mow him down. 🤣🤣🤣
Jokic is a actor too stop sucking him
On the other hand, Jokic is also allowed to push and bump his way to the rim, meanwhile someone like KAT gives a small shoulder and it's a foul. It's not fair to anyone.
@@TyTimeIsAwesome FACTS
@@TyTimeIsAwesome Lowering your shoulder and barraging forward is not the same as backing up other bigs lol
@@peterruskov Jokic does the exact same thing bro! Plus he flails his arms around to push the defender off and never gets called. I do admit Jokic gets fouled way more and no calls are made, but refs also let him foul way more too.
At this point just play the entire game in the free throw line 😮💨
LeBron James agrees with this 🤣😂🤣
😂😂😂
Only if you miss a three
or fire the refs. and have a ref free game. or a Ref Free League. Not sure why they Refs are there in the first place.
This is Silver's wet dream.
Remember Sacramento and Lakers G6, the most iconic rigged match of all time.
Alas, then-Commissioner David Stern, a staunch Flakers fan, did not think a Kings-Nets Finals match would make his mobster bosses rich.
The NBA has been fixed for years and years. The league 100% uses officials to nudge final scores into a certain direction. Now I'm not saying the league is always picking the winners, but they absolutely try to prolong series, by turning a sweep into a 6 or 7 game series... and they keep games closer than they would be if the officials called everything straight up for both teams, in order to keep TV numbers high. And in doing those 2 things, they are stealing the true results from the fans. A team that might win in a 4 game sweep with 4 blow outs, looks weaker when they win in 6 close games, that were tampered with by officials.
Then WHY on God's green earth would the NBA let the Nuggets waltz through in 16 games last year? More games = more money in advertising revenue, merch sales, etc. Also WHY would they possibly have chosen Miami vs. Denver when they could have had Lakers vs. Celtics? Which series do you think gets better ratings? Come on man just apply some common sense here.
@@guiwhiz simple. Even with refs nudging the calls, they can only affect the score so much. The league wants the best matchups, but they can only do so much before it becomes painfully obvious what they are doing.
Stop saying "if that was Draymond Green he would be suspended"...
Dude got away with so many dirty plays over the years, refs were more that generous towards him, but he continued to punch, kick and choke people untill everybody had enough of him.
He doesnt explain now draymond is even playing in this league. Draymond directly hurt players,hes more dangerous than any heat pack laying on the floor.
Somewhere Bill Laimbeer is laughing at this comment, the NBA is soft AF these days.
That's a big way they get away with so much rigging. They create false narratives based on slogans that fans can chant.
@@Refreshment01Come on bro the fact that Murray threw a towel and then a heat pack onto the court during live play... and got no consequences, not even a T, but then his opponent's team got T for just looking at a defender after a dunk?
And Coach Malone got no T, no ejection, for literally running onto the court screaming in the refs face??
If you want a fair league then a huge part of that is setting aside your biases and stop helping them cover up what they're doing. They rely on biased fans for the team they're helping to help them cover up what they're doing.
I mean, there's no way you think the reffing is consistent so far in the Wolves VS Nuggets series. There's just no possible way.
I get we all have a fav team and we all have biases, but you're just being intellectually dishonest if you think this has been a fair series. And we both know this. As fans we need to cut this kind of stuff, it's how they get away with what they're doing.
@@lightbeforethetunnel You made too much asumptions, lets leave it at that. 😀
You're spot on about Brunson living at the line. Every game I've seen him play this year, he pulls this shit 3-5 × a game. It's frustrating, because the nba made it a point to Crack down, but it's inconsistent from game to game and series to series.
Mike Malone is screaming in a refs face, no whistle. Ant man gets a T for a soft stare down.
The replays were a good idea, but are poorly executed.
Same with nfl deciding when to call roughing the passer, pass interference, and holding.
The Malone no call & the Murray heat pack grenade are distractions that ofuscate the bad officiating that was beneficial tothe wolves in the first 2 games.
He never got these calls in Dallas. Like Luka and Kyrie haven’t. If Kyrie was still in Brooklyn or with the Knicks, he would get 15 Fts per game.
@Refreshment01 - you’re delusional, the officiating heavily favored Denver in game 1
Divincenzo must have attended LeFlop University.
It was more of an exaggeration, which I don’t fault them for doing at all (Brunson might be the best in the league at this), because it’s how you get calls. I don’t like it, but it’s also different than a true flop, as they’re exaggerating minor fouls, not pretending there’s a foul when there wasn’t one. Most players can’t really pull this off, but as a fan it’s really annoying to watch
Thats no excuse. Games are reciewed several times after they end. So referees know which player are pulling of this bs. Player x is a repeat offender? Then he doesnt get the benefit of the doubt in the following games.
The regular season is also rigged in the sense that the players who are supposed to take centre stage according to the script are favoured by refs and the players that are a threat to the script are screwed over by the refs. The regular season games are also rigged based on the gambling industry's state and whom the NBA script favours for awards. Nothing else can explain the ridiculous amount of outrageous call during regular season games.
...how many technicals did the bigggest complainer and whiner of the league get, this season?
...exactly.
To the fan(atic), this is sports. To the owners, this is a business. I dont invest in projects that I cannot influence the outcome.
@@Zett76who is that?
@@odajoseph1355nobody telling you to gamble. You guys need to be on hard drugs. The nba is scripted you idiots!
@@user-ng8nk5de9r Are there options? Who's throwing fits all the time, like a 5 year old, without gettting techs?
Holy shi* everyone is finally giving in. All sports are somewhat fixed. How ignorant can you be. Just watch the NFL and tell me its not fixed. 😂
No game has integrity when its rules aren't enforced consistently 100% of the time. The fact that they don't even call travels says it all.
Wolves beat the shit out denver game 2, Literally physically. Alot of whistles could've been blown. There wasnt.
Even when the Wolves had 5 more free throws? Even though Wolves defence is A LOT more physical therefore more fouls SHOULD have been called towards them? Yeah sure
Aurelian only see the stats,didnt wath the game😂😂😂
I wad telling lakers denver nuggets was rigged game 1 2 refs tryed to saved them winning games nobody trusted because all fans to be lebron loser
Denver is a small market team. The same goes for Milwaukee Bucks. Wolves are also not that favoured either.
You would see trash big market team like Knicks gets stupid calls. And then there is Lakers - no matter how bad they are, calls are made either for LeBron or Lakers.
you don't really know what "literally" means right?
Why no one talking about Embid literally pulling on Robinson (Knicks player). That was almost as dirty as Sabonis chest punching the bottom of Draymond foot.
I feel like im watching a telenovela on that NBA lol
It's funny how he says the refs are supposedly favoring the Nuggets in game 2, yet they were allowing a lot of contact by the Wolves in defense (which is not a problem if the calls are consistent to both teams)
The calls were consistent in game 2, the refs weren’t calling anything for either team. In game 3 however, they were calling everything against Minnesota and nothing against Denver, until the 4th then it heavily favored Minnesota (16-4 fts)
@@nydibs exactly, why is Jokic allowed to drive his shoulder into other players and throw elbows and get the call? Remember the first game KCP literally smacked Edwards across both arms as he was going up and they didn't call anything? Nuggets are getting the benefit of the doubt the majority of the time and fans can see it's unfair
@@nydibsi agree with you. The refs set the tone early for the Nuggets
@@nydibs Watch game 2 again. The Nuggets were getting fouls that were nothing compared to what the Wolves were doing to them. The teams ended up with an equivalent number at the end, but the Nuggets had to play normal defence while the Wolves had to go way beyond to get a call against them.
Nick Wright put it best. Wolves v Nuggets game 2 was officiated like it was in a prison
Bro said only a 100k fine 😭💀
He’s a millionaire and $100,000 is way less of an impact to the nuggets than him getting suspended or ejected. They could have lost the game last night
Such BS
@@Frwill126 NBA just took 0.1% of his total worth for a throw! Umm... Frikkin' insane fine. Loads of this you tube was BS though. And it's mostly ripped off of some other ones I've seen on the same subject.
The problem is the video creator is leaving out context. While what Murray did was totally wrong & Michel Malone got furious, those things happened because of bad referring. That Wolves also got 1 or 2 bad calls doesnt mean denver had the better part. Btw, denver has being getting bad whistle since wester conference finals last year. At some point enough is enough.
Yes Wolves are the better team, so why taint thegame with bad officiating?
@@KitLee698 it wasn’t just a throw. It was a throw that could have potentially seriously injured someone and taken away their entire livelihood. The fines are generally less than $100,000 based on what players are saying for physical confrontations. Throwing an object is clearly a safety violation worse than getting into a brawl.
The Palace in the Malice has made it so that emotions have been taken away from the game. Every time I see a phantom technical foul in the NBA it diminishes my interest in the NBA to the point that I am finding it difficult to watch the product now. Its boring.
Who cares though as long as the game is good. Lately it’s affecting the quality of the games though, although not as much in the playoffs barring a few exceptions
@@DragonsFrogs bro. When Jokic got that phantom tech I was about to throw the remote. If players are not allowed to show emotions then what made basketball great is dead. Its a turn off.
Players used to be honest enough to raise their hand, when they knew they were at fault for a foul. Now they whine about every foul call, instead of owning up to the call. Brunson knew he fouled Turner, but then acted like he was disappointed because he thought he was gonna get called for a foul he did commit. This isn't the NBA, its the N.B.S. A.
Player honesty is a plus. The foul calls shouldn't rely on that. Instead, we have professional refs for that, and if they don't see it live, there's always video reviews to get it right. It's shocking, after going through all these steps, they still get it wrong.
@@IbrahimQasim-sb5krhonesty and integrity
When they implement some sort of penalty for referee for very bad calling like this (especially after reviewing), then, maybe then, we will have better calling and better games. To be honest, this sh@t calling is happening in Europe too...
Why would they do that? The problem is that the NBA is sending the message down to refs to do this. If they wanted to put a stop to this, they would. There's no other sport in the USA that has a prior ref accusing the entire sport of cheating, and there's a reason for that.
Yes, Europe has this too but to lesser degree.
It would be interesting to fine refs for overturned calls. Who can say that the powers that be pay for the fines as well. If I was some billionaire who bets on games and bought refs for the game, I'd pay their fine to rig a game. Even the threat of suspension I'd cover any lost wages. There is no fix really Hell they could even use robot referees in the future but then you'd be subjected to nefarious programmers to still rig the game.
Ok but you do get that will also incentivise the refs to call plays in other ways. They may either very very strict in enforcing every single penalty or afraid that they aren't making the right call and just make no calls at all. There are unintended consequences for every action and a reaction.
New York is a massive market and the league wants those sweet, sweet ratings lol
Refs payroll should be attached to their performance. There needs to be a grading system and the jury should have former players, former refs and former coaches judging the performance.
C would be the "standard" grade and refs can improve to their salery for the night by improving to an B or A. They would get a paycut if they go below C. Refs with several good games get to officiate big games and playoff games. Refs with several bad grades get blacklisted for a while and they have to call the Hornets against the Pistons.
People like you don't get it at all. Their pay IS attached to their performance. The refs are doing EXACTLY WHAT THE LEAGUE TELLS THEM to do.
@@slaysyu915 Do you see the irony in your comment? Why would they be bad on purpose when their salary is attached to their performance? PPL LIKE YOU always think there is a higher power in play. Grow up
@@Goxillaslaysu915 prob also things the Illuminati controls the weather and chemtrails are keeping the aliens at bay
@@Goxillain the nba there is a higher power bro
@stelzi290888 You haven't grasped the concept at all. Don't you remember Donaghy? How bout them talking about the ref crew to use to make sure the series goes 7? The NBA has been fixing or influencing games for decades. Do you think the Lakers having two to three times as many foul shots as their opponents is a coincidence? Or "bad" refereeing? The refs are told how to ref the game from the league. That is the whole point. Their performance is what the league wants. How many years have people complained about bad refs? Yet, nothing changes. Why? Because they are doing what the league wants, the league isn't going to judge their performance or have them face public scrutiny.
Sports are a MULTI BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS. Then gambling came along. Do you really think NOTHING crooked goes on!? I know you are a good dude who just likes sports, but it's not about that. The NBA doesn't care about the sport, the love of the game, or competition. They care about money. Period.
Jamal Murray not getting suspension after throwing hot packs into the court!!!!!
So obvious!!!!!!
There is 0% chance the Nuggets win game 6, and the Nuggets will win game 7. The NBA knows the Wolves are close but they will not let them overthrow the Nuggets yet bc they haven't "paid their dues". It's so obvious and everyone knows. I'll come back to this, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm right. This is why alot of ppl don't like the NBA bc they know it's "heavily influenced". They value drama over pure competition.
You called it.
And the laughably transparent swings show just how bad they are at throwing the games. They can't even do it subtly. 40 point wins/losses. What a joke.
The techs in the Nuggets/Wolves series were genius because now pundits and youtubers alike are only talking about those instead of the fact that the wolves were getting sucked off for the first two games. They were allowed to do literally whatever they wanted for the most part (except for stare, I guess lmao). You saw what their defense was like in G3 when they weren't allowed to slap, shove, and scratch the Nuggets on every possession. I mean, the sequence in Game 2 where KAT traveled, JUMPED with the ball and came back down, then shot the ball and got an and-1 because the ball got brushed was just jaw-dropping. I'd be throwing shit too, if I were the Nuggets.
Lmao the NBA already saved your season, no need to cry more. 🤣🤣🤣 The Denver Frauds acting like they didn’t get the biggest privilege of all. 🤣🤣🤣 Can’t even lose with class. Yall are the biggest crybabies. 🤣🤣🤣
Exactly, just because theres evidence of bad calls to both teams doesnt mean the whistle ends up being fair. Changing the focus due to 1 or 2 unfair calls affecting the Wolves should not distract from the fact that they were allowed excessive physical play.
Game 1 the officiating heavily favored Denver
Game 2 the refs just weren’t calling anything on either team, it played into Minnesota’s favor
Game 3 - again very one sided for Denver, until the 4th quarter then Minnesota got a 16-4 ft advantage when the game was already a blowout
@@nydibs Game 1 called relatively evenly, favored Wolves more Game 2 favored Minny BADLY like it was horrific literally the most one-sided game I've ever seen Game 3 called fairly evenly
@@1337slic3you didn’t see the first half I don’t think we got a single free throw
I still remember last year when NBA Ref Eric Lewis got into a scandal because of a potential burner Twitter account, that at first it looked like potentially nothing, but then it blew up and was found out that he was possibly betting on games on the side because not only was this burner account Bucks bias, but any games that Eric Lewis ref'd for the Bucks, usually resulted in them winning with heavy foul calls in their favor. The NBA was going to start an investigation, and then Lewis announced his resignation and they dropped the whole investigation super quick. Rather than pursuing which could have busted open a wider issue, they just up and dropped the whole thing and left a lot of game fixing issues in the air that could have had multiple connections.
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They let the TWolves foul all over the place in Denver. Twice Cat ran Murry over and they let Reed mug the Joker over and over in games 1 and 2
Denver fans are truly losing my respect this series, so far. You guys used to be respectful. But this series you're all coming across as delusional.
I don't think I've seen a series in which the refs / league are favoring 1 side as much as this one. It's every key decision, from both the league and the refs, favoring Denver. Every one. And at the same time, its Denver fans whining about refs??? Idk man, I get that we all have a fav team and we are all biased, but it's fans acting like this that allows them to get away with rigging. There's just no possible way that you truly believe this is a fair series so far. Maybe you don't understand what the refs did in Game 3 go basically hand Denver a win.
Playoff basketball has always been more physical. Always. So when they suddenly start calling soft fouls in game 3, without warning, that puts the Wolves in early foul trouble and forces them into lax D and open shots for Denver all game.
The change in reffing was so drastic, and such perfect timing for Denver to extend the series, that anyone who truly understands basketball knows that was a deliberate planned move.
You guys focus on ONE no-call when KAT charged and act like that ONE call is representative of the entire game.
I'm starting to suspect the commentators are in on it because they made such a big deal of that one call, but then said not a word about Jokic doing the exact same thing moments later. And not a word about it.
They also didn't say a word about the fact the refs called KAT for ticky tack fouls all game after that one no-call. They called 10 fouls on KAT over the first 2 games, maybe 4 of which were actual fouls.
And at the same time, they draw so much attention to that ONE no-call early on (which Jokic did the same) that they have you guys brainwashed into thinking the entire game was KAT playing football, when it was exact opposite - it was KAT being called for ticky tack fouls and being in foul trouble all game for the first two games.
I think they know that most fans form opinions based on 1 or 2 plays like this, so they're purposefully taking advantage of it to brainwash you guys. You gotta be smarter and less biased.
@lightbeforethetunnel - did you play ball? Bc you seem like the only knowledgeable and reasonable guy on here
@@lightbeforethetunnel Sorry, I was shocked by the non-calls against the Wolves in game 1. Even worse, the same sort of bumping and handchecking was being call against the Nuggets. Game 2 was even worse, which is why first Malone and then Murray were absolutely livid. Calling technicals on the Nuggets would have put too much attention on why they were furious, the refs just swept it under the rug.
@lightbeforethetunnel Oh shut the hell up. We all saw the game. It was a damn WWE match in Game 2.
Get the hell out of here.
Thank you for putting this out
In the second game of Wolves vs Nuggets, there were plenty of whistles that could have been blown for the other team as well. While I agree that Malone should have gotten the T and that Antman shouldn't have, there were many other shady calls made against both sides. I do not think that this is a conspiracy theory, I think that this is simply bad reffs and reffs that do not face any repercussions for their bad calls.
There was nothing as crazy as Murray getting run over (which had Malone outraged and Charles Barkley in disblief) and Jokic getting mugged under the boards (which is what led Murray to stupidly throw things at the ref)
He should have got ejected, and murray suspended. I hope my wolves throw everything at them in game 6.
There was also the Murray “gun shooting” with his fingers, while on the floor, that didn’t result in anything, no call, no tech, no nothing, while Edwards got that technical (which was withdrawn later, to be fair). I don’t know if it’s rigged or if it’s just sheer incompetence.
The primary hate on Jokic is that
1. He's not American
2. He's not black
Those are the same reasons he gets love
@@northwestjuggernaut you’re absolutely right still can’t believe Shaq didn’t get more MVPs. Do you know why they love him
@@northwestjuggernautthank u
Victim mentality
Refs likes to keep the series close. The longer the series the more money they make, they get paid especially during playoff somewhere in the north of 10K per game.
It really hurts to see the downfall of not even just the NBA, but every other league in general. Ever since they’ve started shoving FanDuel and DraftKings into our faces, it’s been nothing but unfair officiating and it’s all about the paycheck and viewership. I love this league so much but the officiating and lack of accountability towards the officiating makes me never wanna watch another nba game again.
I see the rigging in a different way. The Wolves were everywhere in gms 1 and 2 then they go home and just walk around on defense like its 4th qt 2 : 00 lwft and up by 20 and get scored on then they just casually shoot the ball again with everyone on offense standing around and miss again. It's like an entire squad went into their locker room and said "we have your families, do not try tonight or else".
I said the same thing!! I'm like are the teams offered some monetary incentive to purposely lose a game...obviously the NBA doesn't want sweeps because they lose a lot of money but this stuff is just way too obvious! Even the fact that Denver and Minnesota played on Monday night and didn't play again until Friday night..they gave Denver almost a whole week to rest because they clearly looked exhausted in games 1 & 2. And the reason they didn't play again until Friday was because of "TV scheduling". 🤔
@@MissMia731 that's too much. The date for each playoff game is decided in the off season. I mean the Wolves weren't running. They looked like they were scared or they were told to stay away from Nuggs
Yeah the game did make me think that the players themselves may be in on the rigging. The Timberwolves clearly were not trying to win. It looked nothing like the same team of the last 6 games.
Idk if you guys are aware of the Illuminati, but if not I recommend researching it. That would explain it all.
@@MissMia731 Yeah I noticed the scheduling advantage for the Nuggets, too. The excuse doesn't hold up of "tV scheduling" because they easily could have scheduled it for Wednesday night. But they chose Friday night instead to let the clearly fatigued Nuggets rest and end the momentum of the Wolves winning 6 straight. Never seen a 4 game gap mid-series in my life like that.
@@stevenepstein6454 That's incorrect, they decide the scheduling for playoff games as it goes along.
Here's what finally convinced me the playoffs are rigged: MN Vs Denver Game 3... the way the refs drastically changed the ref style mid-series, combined with no suspension for Murray... basically handed Denver a free game. And sadly, most fans don't know ball deeply enough to understand how HUGE of an impact the sudden ref style change would have on a matchup like that.
I was able to predict a blowout win for Denver only 5 minutes in. For Denver fans, how did i know? The game was still close at that time.
Yep. Jaden got called for 2 quick fouls and his 3rd with 9 minutes left in the 2nd was when it knew it was over
Jaden had 3 fouls at the half, Ant, Naz and NAW had 2 each. Jokic had 0 and Murray had 1, an offensive foul
Then the refs gave Minnesota all the calls in the 4th quarter, 16-4 ft advantage when the game was way out of reach and the people that look at the box scores instead of watching games think Minnesota had favorable officiating
Jokic went a staggering 0-0 from the line in Game 2. He was getting hacked the whole game like he always does.
Nah. What has been crazy about this series in the "defense" the Wolves were allowed to get away with in games 1 and 2. The weird part is the technicals in game 2, which were obviously in favour of the Wolves. My suspicion is that it helped cover up the con job against the Nuggets.
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx I say this with no hyperbole whatsoever. That was the single most absurd game of referring I have EVER seen, while watching basketball since Y2K. Might as well give the defenders whips to trip up, tie up, or say "My hand never touched anything but ball" it was that egregious. (Game 2 BTW, Game 1 wasn't even close to same level of insanity)
@@loudnoises5372 I think that we agree. I thought that the refs were pretty lenient on the clutching and bodying by the Wolves in game 1, but then game 2 was 100% worse
Veeeerry good video!
There were 18 times Lugenutz Dort physically hand checked Luka and received a no call in game 3. He clipped Lukas legs out under neath him and it was a no call, He tripped Luka and it was a foul but not a tech, tripping in the NBA is an automatic Tech. This stuffs wild.
Tell me NBA games are rigged without telling me
Timberwolf fouled Denver many many times,no calls, they call it great defense.
No they didn't. It was physical, but legal defense. Denver also had a lot of physical play that the refs just allowed. Ant gets whacked all the time and no calls.
But after game 2, all of the sudden the refs stopped letting anyone play physical- and guess who that favors?
you are finding examples on Nuggets, but you dont show at least 10 situation in that game against them. You speak of rigging and you are biased. Refs literally destroyed Nuggets game
Thanks. You just saved me 10 mins.
Not tryna hear no biased shit... 🙄
That's what I was thinking too, sure those moments that favored us did happen but didn't swing the tide of the game, but those don't even compare to the non-charge foul against Murray when Kat came full force at him or the phantom elbow Jokic threw to Reid that resulted in a personal. When reviewing these games, you gotta look at the full picture to get a better understanding at how trash the officials have been for any team in the postseason
Malone didn't get a tech because the ref felt guilty about the last three plays where KAT barrelled Murray, Ant elbowed KCP and Reid flopped on Jokic. The officiating was so bad against Denver it's laughable. 🤣🤣🤣
Lmao why are you complaining like you didn’t get bailed out by the NBA? Good lord! Anyone else did what Murray did and they would’ve been suspended but nope, we can’t allow the Denver Frauds to get swept. Must be nice to have these special privileges. 🤣🤣 imagine a fan base crying about fouls when the NBA already gave them the biggest break of all. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@peterruskov make sense, NBA is indeed rigged but you have to see what's happening under the hood
Great video
If the NBA wants to be taken seriously it has to be consistent in it's calling. Games 2 and 6 of Minnesota-Denver were so different because the T-Wolves could play tight D without touch fouls called. It was completely different when they got into early foul trouble due to an entirely different standard. Professional refs should maintain a consistent standard. If they can't they need to simplify the rules so they don't miss obvious calls while counting seconds in the paint on players away from the ball.
Great video but can we please cool down a bit with the Kawhi laughing soundtrack. It’s a bit overused at this point
The ONLY reason the pacers are in the eastern conference finals is because they shot damn near 70%. Have to to not get “the big market team” further. It will probably be worse with the Celtics. (25 free throws to 3 free throws in regulation).
“Kendrick just opened his mouth, someone go hand him a Grammy right now”
People are more incompetent than corrupt. Officials included.
Agreed. This fixing allegation has no merit. Just bad calls in a game that is difficult to referee.
@@milart12 That's the bottom line, it's difficult to referee. I also watch various racing sports, and MMA as well, the officiating is terrible everywhere I turn. People and governing bodies have no consistency. Sad but true.
Marc Davis didn't give Malone a tech because he knew it was a charge on KAT and he's a veteran referee. He knew if he T'd up Malone for that he would be less likely to get more playoff games in the next rounds because the NBA reviews shit like that and won't give certain crews games as the playoffs go on (which is less bonus money for the refs). Davis knew he was wrong on the charge call and rightly kept his cool to keep his pockets up. If you want to argue anything about game 2 bad refs its gotta be the amount of physicality they let Minnesota get away with but called Denver for repeatedly. Mostly because once Davis was mad about Malone he kinda just went "hold my beer" and called Denver for everything and let Minnesota get away with a bit more. Once Tony Brothers (a notorious Jokic hater) was crew chief in game 3 and the game was called much more fairly (even tho there were a few super soft calls both ways) we saw what happened. But this is why fans get so mad the consistency between crews is lacking - ANT got the T in game one cause that crew wanted no nonsense, Malone didn't get the T in game two but the wolves got away with a lot of physicality after that, in game 3 I'd say it was mostly fairly called. We'll see how it goes but for the most part I'd say the refs really aren't THAT bad.
When Malone charged at the ref it was 2 possessions after the KAT charge, and it was right after Denver hacked the crap out of Ant and there was no call
Is there a correlation between ref preferential treatment and states who allow sport betting?
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This is a good video, but you need to look deeper at the Nuggets-Wolves series. While the technical calls favoured the Nuggets, the in-play calls in games 1 and 2 favoured the Wolves. The Wolves' "aggressive defense" involved a lot of bumping and shoving that would be called in any other game, and in fact was called against the Nuggets IN THE VERY SAME GAME. When the calls went back to normal in game 3, the "aggressive defense" was much less effective.
🧢.. them boys was flopping tryna foul bait while gettin clamped up, yeen watch that game fr i see
I always thought the rigged thing is ConspTheory...But the Wolves lose to Nuggets, the energy was like somebody told them thro the game or else....
The NBA wants long series and superstars to do well. There is just too much money on the line. I don't think there is any doubt officials at least try to prolong series. Just think about how much more money is made in a 7 game vs 5 game series. NBA, TV deals, advertisers, venue profits, these are all businesses at the end of the day
I can why a ref would call a kick ball because his step hit the floor at the same time the ball did.
But Miles Turner had stop moving right before contact was made.
DiVencenzo definitely set a moving screen.
Game 2 Wolves got away with many fouls. Seems to me the NBA doesn’t want the Nuggets to win another chip.
You are essentially saying the nba SHOULD rig games by changing the way they call games based on them being regular season games or playoff games. If it’s a foul in game 1 of the preseason it’s a foul in the last game of the postseason. Period
It really is the only way to make it right. Then the players have a chance to adjust their play and we can all move on. Even if your correcting a bad no call from before you have to call the same thing or else it just gets out of hand. Suvks they are just fucking over the actual fans watching the games. The ones sitting through commercials. Hopefully the lakers are practicing their free throws this off season. Lebum is staying.
The NBA is "BUSINESS" first! FOLLOW THE MONEY!
The Jukebox Guy in Vegas wants his millions.
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In second game Nuggets vs TWolfs referees were obviously on TWolfs side. Have you watched what happened before coach Melone and Jamal did what they did? That game was practically nfl game. Referees didn't issue technical for Nuggets because they went so far against them so they decided to let them go because that way they can say they are not biased. The game was unwatchable. Third game was the opposite, every single contact was interpreted as foul. NBA referees are impacting game acording to some agenda and that will destroy the game. I love basketball so I'll switch to europian league. I'm just hoping that NBA becomes 'healthier' in future.
Lmao when your player is throwing tantrums that would’ve gotten anyone else suspended, you don’t get to cry. The Denver Frauds crying is laughable. You already got the NBA to save your season, now you’re gonna cry about fouls? 🤣🤣 GTFOH frauds!
Some refs love certain clubs..lakers is one of them! Boston is one of them and now Oklahoma..white boy towns and la lovers ..
watching an NBA game feels like a job. commercial after commercial, I can't even start feeling the game, 1 minute into that, COMMERCIALS.
I remember that tim duncan call from a decade ago 🤣
Minnesota and Dallas series is badly refereed, Luka gets fouled every second play and yet no calls, meanwhile SGA gets every ticky tacky call. Its weird
First game OKC only had 3 more FTA, second game Dallas had a whole lot more.. Numbers don't like.
@@UlookinMeliterally. Refs called everything on the Thunder but Dallas could shove players on the ground and they’d either call it on the Thunder or no call
@@UlookinMeyou should watch the games next time instead of stats game 1 shai was a foul merchant
@@dtxfern41 Ah. So I should ignore numbers and just...believe in feelings. Got it. Not even an OKC fan but Dallas fans are as bitchy as their star, you all belong in soccer.
Yeah we already know that GS rigged a couple of rings back in the day with help of the refs.
Watching delusional warriors fans complaining about this now is simply hilarious. 😁
You're still mad, I see.
GSW out of the playoff Hoop report punching air rn 😄
It feels like almost every game in the Knicks vs Pacers series the game has been rigged for the home team
Seen this before. As a Bucks fan in the late ‘70’s and early ‘80’s the league decided they wanted Boston/Philly over small market Milwaukee. Over and over the Bucks got screwed in the playoffs!
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Like baiting
Also with Murray doing the finger guns after hitting a shot
Alr they should make a ruler that if the ref makes bad calls it’s a fine a suspicion for like 1-2 games
I love how when bad calls get brought up it only matters if its on the team you route for with like half of basketball fans.
Also what makes it worse at least for this era of basketball that if they were to call fouls and violations consistency players then create their whole game around getting calls flopping is already at an all time
Yeah, but I think the only teams with advantage are large markets. Knicks are getting major help.
NBA, NFL,WWE all on the same plane, winner is known before contest starts
Game 1 of NYK vs IND was getting swayed by the officials WAAAY before the last minute of the game. IND was up at the start of the 4th, and they started getting calls against them. It was SO clear that the refs wanted the game to be closer. The calls slowed the game down and took out the momentum of IND. Lesson is that teams have to take the game away from the refs.
Last night in the first 48 minutes the Celtics took 23 free throws, Pacers took 3.
Why can't we get rid of Refs entirely and use AI / cameras all around the court to verify whats a foul and whats not. That's literally the best use case for AI right now
can you make more videos on the warriors
So refs favor Denver but then they favor Minnesota for not calling fouls. What's the conclusion here?
Good point. There is no point, really. Just ignorance about games being "rigged"
For whatever reason, the Timberwolves are allowed to run a defense that uses illegal contact as one of its main tactics. The question is why.
I was a big NBA fan since the 90s, I got progressively tired of the NBA since the Kings-Lakers series in the early 2000s. Now with all the shameless "favoritism" calls, no-calls on obvious traveling, constant flopping and whining, touch-foul calls that discourage defense, I haven't watch a single game this season including playoff, only watch some full-game highlights occasionally. Overall, the current NBA is a bad product and not worth my time and money. I still hope they'll learn and make some corrections to improve the state of the NBA in the near future. hmm, don't even mention the all-star game which is a joke for the world to see.
The NBA is also a far-left-wing propaganda machine.
Also, right before that "kick ball" call, the Pacers had to challenge a play to get the ball from another bad call from the refs.
Yesterday night
May/21/2024
Same thing happened to
pacers vs Boston
Boston got a bunch of free-
“free throws”
You also forgot the no call on KAT double dribble right before Murray threw the heat pack
I think 2 o 3 plays later after the ant's look technical foul, Murray did similar after a bucket and pointed 👉 several times to the wolves player and no call, nothing happened, commentators pointed out that as well
11 free throws to 0 is a WILD stat. A coach on the floor cussing out a ref and a player tossing things on the floor with no call is also CRAZY. But the knicks calls weren't that egregious. I watched the kickball in real time and I thought it was a kickball also. I don't remember that callbeing questioned live. Fouls will be missed and called unevenly, the refs are human, the rules are complicated, and players are fast, sneaky, and flop like crazy. It's going to happen.
That's why I watch at a distance not to be emotionally involved, much.😆
ands they wonder why NBA ratings are in the toilet..
Another reason would be a tremendous lack of access to these games, which are no longer aired on network TV.