Star Ocean 2 Characters: RANKED From WORST To BEST
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if its ranked by "combat" dias is number 1, if its by "utility" than rena number 1 every time
thank you for covering all of my childhood so far!
Dumbass just called himself a girl
This is one of the most underrated greats. Can't wait for the Remake to drop. Best Star Ocean game to date.
I play Rena's side all the time specifically to recruit Dias.
yep thats the trick there hahaha
This
SAME! Dias is my favorite!
Same rena playthrough
Diaz claude aston Rena
3 dps 1 buffer
Ya, Dias sexy as hell
So, this is my daughter's favorite game, and the remake is coming out on her birthday this year!! Her Sweet 16 is going to be Star Ocean 2!! That's what she asked for, and my husband and I are so so excited and so is she! This has been our family game since she was a toddler.
Anyway, we've been talking about the teams we want to have, because we plan to go achievement hunting together with us all on our own Steam. We absolutely HATE Noel. He's the worst to us. (to the point that my daughter wants a rewrite of the story where Noel goes and dies, and we get to take Alen in the team to possibly give him a redemption) She wants Opera and Ernest to avoid getting Noel. I told her that I'm going Ashton and Precis, because I love them as a ship and I think they compliment each other on the battlefield. We both want Dias and Chisato. Her favorite character to play is Dias, and I usually control Rena because I like controlling when the heals come. My husband is gonna go Claude, and says he wants to do Ashton and Bowman. He likes to play as Ashton.
Ernest is cute, and I'm sad it takes so much to get him but he's kinda shit in battle. When I get him, I use him for the special skills. Though I feel like Precis is even better at him that he is, and he's from an alien world with better technology. WTF.
Oh I loved reading this! How wholesome!! :) and happy birthday to your daughter!
@@davidvinc Thank you~! We love your channel, David!
Ha, this is awesome. Glad it's your family game. Need a follow up story after you guys play the remake for awhile, see if your habits changed.
I liked actually using Leon in terms of controlling him. His attack animation is neat, and it's fun to line him up in just the right place to hit as much as possible with the Gremlin Lair spell. Plus, I'm always gonna gravitate towards the characters with cat ears.
I know some people didn't like the cutscene effects for spellcasting but...
That shit was KING man, you cast the Explosion spell enough and it goes from exploding for 2-3 seconds to like a full on 30. Those extended cutscenes REALLY made you feel your magic improving.
Edit: I don't know what you people are talking about for spellcasters. They worked fine in the old PS2 game (dunno about the first remake they did). All you had to do was cast your spells a *LOT* and they would improve both visually and damage wise. I literally took Celine to endgame because she could decimate entire squads with Southern Cross.
Basically, choose any 4 out of these 6 characters and you have the best team:
Claude - Dragon Howl & Ripper Blast (Long range) & Eternal Sphere Spam - Amazing and Safe Damage throughout the whole game.
Rena - Heal and Support and some quick spells for interruption - All you need in a mage
Opera - Alpha on One & Healing Star - Long range damage dealer with Healing capabilities.
Precis - Alley-Oop & Barrier - Very Safe Mid Range Fighter with arguably the best spammable single target lockdown and Crowd Control.
Bowman - Poison Pills & Explosive Pills - One dimensional character but by spamming pills the damage racks up really fast.
Chisato - Whirlwind & Tear Gas - Whirlwind can lock an enemy down very well (even better before the proficiency upgrade) and Tear Gas is a contender for the best damage in the game but generally requires someone to lock the enemy down first.
Special Mention to Ashton - Once you have angel armband he is godly, but you've pretty much beaten the game at that point. Shame that his killer moves are so bad/slow (with the exception of hurricane slash) as he is a fav. Barrels!
Why not the other fighters?
Dias - again super one dimensional. Air Slash spam is crazy safe but at too long a range you will miss very often and at one hit it won't make a big dent in most bosses health. If you spam air slash at more a mid range then you will be more accurate but then you are better off using a better mid range fighter like Precis.
Ernest- Broken Heart is a very serviceable KM and access to battle suits very early is nice but he is very much outclassed and not worth the effort.
Welch - Meh, nothing in her arsenal stands out to put her above the other fighters.
Welch - Nibelung Valesti
That's not the actual name in the game, but I just like saying that line.
Except Welch still sucks even WITH it useable and she can't even LEARN that attack until you can access the Cave of Trials to begin with.
Drains up all her MP after few uses. Fairy ring helps but still, not by much overall.
Its ALSO BLOCKABLE so even on Universe mode she is still pure crap.
only 1 healer is needed in this game.
People overrate opera wayy too much.
Chisato should be in everyones party btw and you need either dias or ashton as your 2nd swordsman. If you go claude run u should go for ashton.
I've always had a soft spot for Ashton so I don't think I've known how OP Opera really is. I've pre-ordered this game for the nostalgia and just can't wait!
I played this game so much as a kid and am pumped. I didn't know Celine was optional!! I'm skipping her annoying pausing combat ass this time around!
I want to play Star Ocean 2! I never played 1 and 2. You have completely sold me!
Bless you for not even including Welch in your list. She really is just a giant reminder of the bad plot decision for SO3.
SO3's plot twist is wonderful. There is no problem with what happened and it could even be the same with our reality.
If game characters feel like they are in the real world then it is enough to be in one. Remembering that games are generally fantasy and technically games like this are in another reality and we are participating in it.
Like that guy said, SO3 plot twist is wonderful. I get that some people kinda felt cheated by the plot twist, or it felt like the twist is forced or kinda like an asspull, but to me it's a clever way to tie in the lore, settings, and general feel of these sagas of sci-fi met magical fantasy.
Without the existence of the 4D beings and the simulation/game, symbology, bunnies, the same humanoid shaped like species across the galaxy, will feel weird in a story full of detailed scientific terms like gravity warp drives, positron cannon, etc. In terms of plot writing, as long as the 4D beings themselves serve as just a reminder in most of the SO series, that they just live in a huge universe sized simulations, then it doesn't really matter. The "gods" didn't do anything in most of the series, they just spectates while their creations are fooling around doing wars in backwater planets or across the interstellar space cause these so called creations do have free will, as told in SO3 ending.
@@chaoscrimsonia Not to offend, but if the plot twist was as good as you say, Tri Ace wouldn't be afraid to deal with the consequences of it, but they havent had the balls to make an SO game take place after SO3 as a result of how badly said twist turned out.
In saying that, I have a plot idea for an SO game that takes place after SO3..
@@ZenKriojust because people don't get it, doesn't make it bad.
@@brit69 IT doesn't. The "I think, therefore I am" ending that came from it did though. Don't get me wrong, I have an SO7 plot that could easily take place after SO3 I could sell them right now, and it would be golden. Doesn't mean SO3's twist was good, it wasn't. But it wasn't as bad as they say, and TriAce could fix it up to make it work. The big issue with SO3 is that it makes the plots of every other game kind of useless in the grand scheme. SO4's villain was just a glitch, SO2's 10 Wise Men were anomalies, like, it makes it seem like the villains of the games before it weren't actually people themselves.
Great list, I always loved Ashton. Bad luck be damned there's something about a sword master with dragon's popping out of his head. Makes me think of that weird villain from the old Jeremy Irons DND movie :)
My biggest gripe with opera was her english voice actor and how she screamed all the time. Otherwise yeah she is a bomb.
I will watch the vid in a second, but in the OG star Ocean 2, this would be the tier list imo:
Top:
Opera - Healing star makes it so you don't need to actually have Rena if you control her, and her higher end arts deal a lot of damage.
Claude - just really powerful, all his arts starting with Meteor Palm are already doing more than 4 hits. And a few of his moves have great crowd control.
Rena - she's your best healer, she's needed on your team.
High tier:
Precis - a lot of her moves give you the room to deal damage without taking much, she's quite versatile.
Chisato - Read Above she's quite strong despite her lower attack, and she's looking to be stronger in the new game.
Bowman - Explosion and Poison Pills are just so good lol.
Mid tier:
Ernest: his early arts are actually quite good. Dimension whip is a fast 4 hit move and thousand whip is like meteor palm with more reach. He's better than most seem to believe.
Ashton - I love him, but a lot of his moves suffered from long start times and him not really moving after casting his moves. So unless you can trap a foe, he isn't doing the numbers you'd like.
Dias: He could go above or below Ashton, but I find that at least Ashtons moves have multi hits, Dias suffers from having very few hits in overly flashy moves. Illusion is his best at 4 hits, where Ernest does that with his first attack. I know Gale Thrust and Air Slash are good, but they are held back by being single hit. And I hope they fix his sub par moves in R.
Welsh - I found her moves really meh. Similar issues to both Ashton and Dias, only at once. She doesn't move while using a lot of them, and they don't deal a ton of hits.
Magic User Tier -
Do I need to say. In the OG game Magic Users aren't worth using. They make gameplay slower by pausing it, and they only did single hit.
Edit: Damn, you reminded me of creepy and weepy. Gyoro and ururun were the better names.
Noels pronunciation of "Energy Arrow" is the best VA in the game, therefore making him top tier. And to be real here, Ashton is top tier if you abuse Attack Speed/Multi hit stun animation.
the most fun ive had with this game is when i tried to beat it with a full mage party of rena, leon, celine, and noel. its the worst team combination i can think of but beating the game with 4 of the worst classes felt more satisfying than using opera/dias/claude cheese
You could steal the best physically defensive armor in the game (Battle Suit) from Ernest *twice* during Private Actions. So if you were getting Opera anyway and were undecided on your filler characters, it's a decent benefit compared to other characters who were also going to sit on the bench if recruited.
I haven't played this game since the early 2000s... but I used Celine the whole way through? I never thought she was trash. This will be interesting when I play the remake
I never got a chance to play the original, but always wanted to try it out. But now that the remake is releasing and ive played the demo, im for sure getting this when it releases. Thanks for this character dissertation!
Spell casters and Celine from what I remember were nice starting out then turned into situational utility as I recall, where I seem to remember switching characters in and out after the game hit me with a few power curves after I started thinking I was doing good and got tossed right in the dumpster.
For some reason I remember liking Celine's spells in certain tough fights to help manage the time, since it was either a pause if not an interrupt to some attacks and for whatever reason, I recall late game on some occassions where she was the only one left alive against some attacks that party wiped everyone else and she would get me back in the fight. It's been way too long though, it was such a good game.
I always had Celine. I just liked her. Simple as that.
Usually when one person consistently is the lone survivor, it's because the rest either have insufficient hp or the wrong resists.
So I wasn't the only one who thought she was the more resistant of the damage oriented mages? 🤔
Honestly I rated Celine higher, just because when you get her a mage at that point is useful, being able to hit all enemies and slow them down for Claude was very useful at least for the first continent. Also I rated Chisato lower than Ashton, I like Chisato but she doesn't do too much damage as a corpse.
For me Celine in every version is still pure CRAP as soon as you GET her and yes I had Claude/Rena BOTH at lv 40 on the PS1/PSP version BEFORE entering Cross Cave with Celine and the MARVEL Sword still equipped on Clajude.
Exactly. Just pop Starlight/Lunar Light all day and Angel Feather then use items when needed. She's way better than he let on.
even with THOSE 3 spells Celine is still pure CRAP.
@@veghesther3204 Personally I think you are being too harsh on Celine, I think she has early game merit, especially if you don't over-level and abuse crafting early on. I agree that level 40 with a Marvel sword before cross cave fights would be easier without waiting for spells to cast, but not all players will be able/willing to do this.
@@sharmist I will say, I tried using Celine through Energy Nede, but it was around Fun City that could not keep listening to "Explosion!"
Here's hoping the remake makes casters more viable with most spells no longer freezing the field. (And PLEASE give Ernest a way to be more useful!!!)
I heard that they are going to make it more fluid for the casters :)
They don't in fact with spells no longer freezing they made attack magic even WORSE and in the Demo I had Claude/Rena's 1000 Str weapons before entering Cross Cave in the Demo so in the full game Celine Noel Leon are still going to be pure Crap EVEN Rena's FIRFST attack spell Crush in the demo is completely useless since enemies can easily move OUT of the way of A single target spell making it miss completely.
Ashton Precis Welch still won't ever be in my party either other then loading a save file after their joining the party trophies in the PS4 version unlock by loading a save file that takes place WITHOUT them EVER in the party.
a 100% monster book/open all chests trophy can't be done on a 1st run only and sadly the crappy party members of Celine Ashton Leon and Celine MUST ALL be in the party for a open all chests trophy due to their spells + the Tri Ace skill for Ashton all be gotten IN the Cave of Trials BUT those chests can't be opened without them in the party.
The Chest for Welch and her useless skill that chest in Eluria Tower still shows up TO open it even WITHOUT HER in the party though its ONLY accessible at the same time the Cave of Trials is.
never change, do ya Vegh?@@veghesther3204
In the remake demo Celine and Rena both cast without stopping game its pretty cool.
But attack spells are still PURE CRAP in the demo so I'll still have my 1000+ Str Claude and Rena USE physical hits in the Demo in the full gamer I won't actually have my 1000+ Str Rena try to KILL the Lasguss mountains enemies until lv 40+ let Claude do that instead and Celine still won't be in my party in the FULL game once you exit Cross Cave.
I'm going to try to make my playthrough as blind as possible but I always love going back and seeing how my choices stacked up
Hi David! Anxiously awaiting SO2R. Love the list! Thanks and have a blessed day!
Thanks! You too!
Easily one of my favorite RPGs, and definitely my favorite Star Ocean game! The music is so nostalgic! I still hear the characters' voice lines in my head, all these years later. 🤣 "BLACK... SABER."
It's "pear into peaches!" in my head lol
I "get" people's annoyance with mages in the first 2 Star Ocean games, but then I do not when you consider the hardware limitations at the time. Also I found the mages super useful for clearing out certain mobs--especially ones that can easily one or two-shot you at times--so was surprised that you favor the melee users.
I've only played The Second Story once before on the PS1 as I actually prefer the first game much more (my fav in the series). I am however super looking forward to the Remake of SO2 and honestly often question if I recall or paid attention to certain parts of the game. One thing that is for sure, though, is apparently I need to try Opera and I figured Dias would be good so with the remake I'm definitely gonna choose Rena in the beginning.
Honestly, mages wouldn't have been so bad if their damage just scaled higher mid to late game, and they were able to break the 9999 damage cap. If Celine and Leon were able to hit around 40-50k damage off their best spells with late game equipment, then I would be perfectly fine with keeping either of them in the party.
Long cast times, spell animations, low dmg cap, and sometimes restrictive mana costs are why casters are "caster tier" in this game. If it takes them 12s to complete a spell (not counting animation run time) to do at most 9999 dmg, but a melee can land 6 hits for 3k each in the same window, there's just no comparison.
Good list! My first PlayStation play through I picked up Ashton, but on my PSP run I did Opera and she was fantastic. Her counterpart is a loaf of bread, but you don’t need him anyways 😂
I've already beaten 2nd story, and 2nd evolution 1x each this year, and just finished 1st departure. Told myself I have to finish BG3 before SO:SSR comes out but I just started a Claude playthrough of 2nd evo right as you said "Bowman"...
But yeah i spammed claude with the helm splitter technique i think its called where he jumps up and bops u on the head with the sword i beat the game with that move alone 😊😅
David100K!
Will we have a revised remake tier list should things get better for casters?
I don't think I ever gave Opera a fair shot in the one run I had her. Didn't know about that heal...
I agree with most of this. I’d put Celine above Noah. And I’d put Rena above chisato. Rena was always clutch for me. Chisato not as much, although she was great. And yeah Opera is one of my first characters I want to recruit on my first play though of the remake. Never got a lot of use out of Bowman, Ernest or Leon. Celine was there until mid game, when (you were so right) mages kind of became useless. Except for Rena.
Huhh.. chisato should be top 1 and not even below rena dafuq.
Chisato is literally the strongest character in the game with the highest damage output. She should be in everyones party.
I lost this game some time in 2012, and for some reason I haven't tried to get a new copy yet, but I played it like absolutely crazy between 2007-2012, and I must have beaten it literally like 100 times.
For this reason, this game is burned into my memory so strongly that I still remember practically everything by heart, even how to get all the best equipment.
Man I WAS RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. This game is my all time, all consoles, GOAT. Too much of a impression left on me in adolescence. It is an irational love I have for this one.
You know they just released the remake right? Instead of just making it prettier they added plenty of quality of life improvements like optional fast travel.
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Welcome aboard!!
I don’t remember but I tried Chisato and ended up using Rena, Claude, Dias, Opera while controlling Opera most of the time to control when to use healing stars or not. I think I ended using Dias over Chisato because during those secret end bosses Dias was able to spam his move from up close while Chisato needed to back off and the boss were always trying to get close so she had a hard time doing any damage… But this is from what I remember from about 25ish year ago so I might be totally saying non-sense here.
I used BOTH so I'll blood armor Claude Dias Opera and Chisato (Bowman and Chisato) joining Claude and Opera on a Claude game since Leon is pure CRAP.
Is healing star enough healing for the secret endbosses? Or are you relying on something else ?
if you bloody armor Claude Opera Chisato and Dias/Bowman then yes it IS as long as all BUT Opera are doing 9999 PER hit (5000) per hit in Second Evolution.
Claude can cover all my physical needs any time >v>
Okay, okay, I'll calm down xD
Y'know, despite playing this game probably over a dozen times in my life, I never did figure out how to get Earnest.
Hopefully, with the gameplay adjustments of Second Story R allowing mages to cast without bringing combat to a halt, my girl Celine can get the buffs she needs ;v;
This game comes 2 days before my birthday, and you just sent my hype to the clouds for the remake! Thanks a lot for the great video!
I hope you have a very Happy birthday!
It’s probably been a decade since I’ve played SO2, but I’m so excited for this release. The demo was fantastic and I can’t wait to play through the game again!
i've got divine force and the last hope but i haven't had time to check them out yet, i actually haven't ever tried a star ocean period yet but figured i'd try the graphical ones first, but this looks like it has promise
Oh this is the best one!
i'll take your word for it we literally have the same taste in video games, i pretty much take your reviews as law at this point lol
Really hope the remake rebalances some of the characters (and maybe add some new ones??) ESPECIALLY spellcasters. There need to be multi hitting spells because their damage just gets absolutely dwarfed by fighters. And I get it, this is an action RPG, we wanna up close and personal doing stuff, but I like casting magic damnit!
I'd personally put Dias above Chisato. Illusion is bananas, super fast, and move him forward. Ashton would be tippy top tier if Swords Dance didn't plant him in place. Although if you can pin the boss down between two/three fighters, you can get the full damage from Swords Dance. Also wish Tri-Ace wasn't awful, considering what you have to do to get it. Dead Triangle has a long start up but I love using it.
Fuck, I need to stop there or Im gonna write an essay. Love this game, and it's the reason why I call every bonus dungeon the "Cave of Trials" of the game.
Ashton was always my favorite character back in the day so I've never recruited opera. I was planning on getting her for my first run of the remake so I'm glad to see she's ranking at the top :)
Wait what about Welch? I know she wasn't in the original game but she was in Second Evolution and I'm pretty sure she'll be back in Second Story R.
She's still pure Crap.
I still remember,when i made it to the final boss,i was so overleveled,when i entered the battle,dias says "piece of junk" to the final boss!!!
In my older playthroughs I NEVER recruited Opera and Ernest. But the only reason to get Ernest, is for the battle suit
I do wonder if in the remake, you can rock a full physical party and use casters as support with the new call function
You can but Celine Ashton Precis Noel Leon Welch still won't ever be in my party if you can still Bloody armor a lv 100+ Claude Opera Dias Chisato/Bowman party even IF Healing Star ONLY restores 3000 HP not 5000 per use I'll still do that.
Just played the demo and got to say I'm not disappointed I will miss thr grind for special art changes but the looks and feel are so good I can't wait to play it and also I think the magic uses will be viable now lol not sure but gonna try using them now
I'm gonna have to check out a character guide for the remake. I want to try and get characters I never got as a kid cause I took certain early game characters.
Opera is great, make no mistake. But getting healing star takes a lot of luck just to craft the item in question. You will be reseting a lot even at max machinist level with help from orchestra. And after you do get it, you have to use it many hundreds of times before it actually becomes worth it. 200 HP healing per use at start is pretty meager, requiring you to use at least 400 times before it actually becomes the absolute best healing move. By the time I get White Upgrade and make her use it 400 times, chances are, that all content that remains is the bonus dungeon and unlimited Gabriel.
Precis in the remake absolutely dominates. If there was a tier list she would be leagues beyond everyone else. Her superweapon plus forcefield
Is she hard to recruit. I was trying to have a mostly lady team but dias is kinda cool!
Precis can be really good yeah, but I don't think she's better than Opera since late game when you can get stuff that lowers MP cost/has MP absorbing means you can literally just sit back and let her spam Seeking Plasma (aka Alpha on One) and Hyper Launcher.
She's my top pick as well (at least in the remake; I don't remember the PS1 original too well).
Love me some SO2. The Top 4 you listed is always my final party. Thanks for the vid, David.
STOKED for the remaster!🎉🎉🎉
You should have a special tier. Both Bowman and Chisato can become the most OP in the game with the right equipment: I think its the Weird slayer and bloody armor. The armor makes you invulnerable except it drains your life as you wear it and the slayer gives half your attack back as healing. They both destroy the extra endgame bosses with those.
Yes but BEFORE you get that weapon you MUST have Opera and healing star at 999 uses which is why Ashton is pure CRAP.
Give Chisato the Bunny Shoes. She always wrecks house for me, faster than I can even keep up with!
About that KM's with her are still SLOW with those but you can only get Bunny shoes NOT counting the STOLEN Fun City one after the Cave of Trials shows up anyways since the Bunny Shoes via the Bunny Races at fun City are NOT worth it.
Not true. @@veghesther3204
Thanks for this. I just picked up the Switch remake after not touching the game since the PS release and this was a good refresher.
Opera and Chisato. Just love their play styles and characters.
I'd argue that Leon is worse than Celine and Noel. At least with Celine, she fills up the party early on and is useful as a distraction/meat shield until you get Bowman or Precis. By the time you get Leon, you have far better options available, and the only reason I even bother with him is completion.
Ashton vs Opera is always a tough call. Do you get a pretty good fighter early on, or do you get a better fighter later, and risk having Ernest stink up your party? There are better swords available in the late game (Laeveteinn, anyone?), but Opera has better skills. Opera is pretty, Ashton is funny. Ashton has a good sidequest early on, which powers you up for the trials ahead, so I usually stick with him--at least in the Rena playthrough.
Claude actually gets the #1 spot for one reason: the Aeterna blade. If you're patient enough, you can make a sword that basically lets you beat the entire game, right as soon as you're done with the tournament. Not only does it deal a silly amount of damage, it also sprays a shotgun blast for every swing, which piles even MORE damage on. Even tough bosses will melt after just a few hits, and the sword is good enough to carry you deep into the post-game as well. If you've never had the Aeterna blade before, I urge you to try and make one. Yeah, it's an RNG nightmare where you have to save-scum a thousand times, but once you get it, it is SOOOOO worth all the trouble!
And hey, don't forget Welch!!!
I will always call it the Eternal Sphere. One of my favorite things to do is get the weapon immediately after the tournament. I love being broken so early in the game.
Ashton is the best character in the game personality-wise in my opinion and he is pretty useful too. So I would always choose him over Opera
IT sucks the Marvel Sword is still better and yes at lv 255 WITH the Eternal Sphere and Claude Bloody armored on Earth mode I could still NOT HIT Iselia queen at all With it I had her Block Claude's physical hits IN the Front Row at lv 255 on Earth mode using the Eternal Sphere so I kept the Marvel Sword on Claude/Dias for the entire game.
Yes I could NOT have Dias HIT Iselia queen lv 255 on Earth mode with the Crimson Diablos weapon at all so I still had to Marvel Sword him as well.
Chisato is the 3rd party member with a 100% hit/unblockable weapon BUT unless you give her a MP DRAIN factor on this version that weapon of her's WILL easily drain all HER MP to zero before Iselia queen even at lv 255 dies.
I only managed to recruit Opera once. Since we’re talking 24 years ago, I can’t remember how I did it, but I believe I picked Rena as the main character on my second play through.
Are you still streaming on Twitch? I never get notified anymore. I'm missing the RPG streams!!!
You got good taste David 😊. I never had the patience to use Welch for long because you get Oprah and Dias around the same time. Is she any good? 🥴 Also your top 5 are the same as mine! Though I prefer to use Rena, Claude, Chisato, and Dias because as you have said, Opera is completely broken as a healer 😂
Cool ranking!
Man am I stoked for Star Ocean 2R!!!! With the updates to combat the mages will be improved, for sure. Lymle tier will be based squarely on the character, itself (personality-wise).
Combine the worst characters into one, Lymle, Roger, Reimi... Reimyle - a fusion of obnoxious proportions tho it's opinion-based and results may vary!
Wait... Chai- Say-to? I always thought it was Chi-Sah-to... well I know for sure I pronounced both Press-ee's and Nowl wrong as a kid (tomato, tomahto, maybe all work!)
Noel above Celine?
Ashton outside the top 5?
Chisato?
Mans is trippin balls
I’ve never played the game yet but from my understanding everybody hated magic because it cut into the battle but since it’s been revamped I wonder if perception will change
"B!tch becomes a house." 🤣😂
Will be playing this for the first time with the remake, unsure if I should preorder or wait though.
Does Claude really have all my physical needs covered?
This was helpful! Thanks
another video from david, always a pleasure.
I love seeing David getting sponsors. Werk!
It really all just be about Dias, huh.
I have a soft spot for Celine's humongous milkers, I mean personality 🤔. I remember i got the ending where she and Rena ended up together. 🤔
No but seriously i love this game so much. Been playing the remake non stop since release.
Hope they update the champs a bit, make some better and some worse. My biggest hope is they make the magic users more like modern mages in SO games.
Thank u just seeing the case brings back memories
Man If the remake does well, the internet may have some actually good S02 content. Nice to see this vid!
Just out of curiosity, assuming you tried Welch out, where would you likely place her on the list?
I was so happy when i heard this was coming out, one of my favorite games growing up☺
The first time I saw Celine, i assumed she was cosplaying as Daniel's halloween costume in Karate Kid
I found this game at Best Buy after Christmas in 1999 for $19.99. Bought it and loved it. Beat it and then never got back to it for 23 years. Hard to believe. Love the new version though.
What's your opinion of Star Ocean? I loved it. It was my first SO game and I was already a fan of Valkyrie Profile so I was pretty shocked and hype when Lenneth, Gabriel, Ethereal Queen and Freya appeared as bosses.
I've always thought Ashton to be #2 or even #1 because of endgame. His normal attacks are god-tier speed. They were outdamaging everyone else I tried, even after ~10 playthroughs. I never tried Opera much, so that's where the #2 possibility comes in. I have a tech endgame with Angelic Garb 1hp via Mandrake followed by a 1hp res and Blue Talisman x2 where Ethereal Queen/Iseria Queen hit for 0, and since Ashton gets point blank with normal attacks and they're fast as heck, they will guard, send stars back on guard, Ashton will guard 90% of them and send more stars back with each hit doing 9999, she will guard 80% and send even more stars back, Ashton will guard and send more, so on so forth until she dies in like 1 minute.
You forgot Welch Vineyard she was playable, in the psp remake
My setup is definitely a bit different from yours when i picked Claude as mc i would usaully go with Claude, Rena, Celine, and Ashton . And with Rena swap out Ashton with Dias. Recently i did start a new game and got Opera for the first time while i do like her. She seems to miss her killer moves ALOT and also seems to run out of mp faster than any of my other party members. As for the other party members i pretty much agree where you placed them.
Opera really only needed 999 Healing Star uses Fair Ring her bloody armor her Claude Chisato and Dias/Bowman all lv 100 and you'll never die against the super bosses in game as long as you have 1 HP so while the Bloody armors HP drain effect CAN drop it to 0 with healing star restoring 5000 HP at 999 uses that will almost NEVER happen.
Ashton ONLY sucks because Opera MUST be 1 of your bloody armor users.
This is Opera's world, we're all just living in it.
I liked Leon and Celine as characters, but gameplay wise the mages left much to be desired. Chisato was the best of both worlds for me ❤
Chisato uses magic
It's a real shame that we have to choose between Opera/Ashton. I've always wanted to recruit him but Opera is just too essential to pass up. It sucks cuz I'd choose Ashton over Precis/Bowman and Chisato/Noel.
This time I'll do my Claude with Opera/Ernest, Precis and Chisato. Rena I'll go with Ashton, Bowman, Noel and Welch (I think I have room for her?)
Yes! I personally think Ashton may even be just as good as Claude, with his biggest downside really only being that he locks you out of recruiting Opera.
I remember finishing this fame around 11 or 12 times and my favorite starting member is rena and favorite party where claude, dias, bowman and rena just turn off all multi hit skills for claude spam air slash for dias and poison pills for bowman then control rena everything was easy after that
Came into the video ready to fight about it and your list closely matches my own!
Second Evolution made Ernest a bit more serviceable with the addition of 3 hit combos but he's still poopoo unfortunately for our whippy boy :(
I love Celine's character and really hope mages can take up a more worthwhile party slot with the remake, the demo looks very promising for mages!
I´ve been hearing a lot about mages being better on the remake, but why ? what does make them better? sorry I just finishid SO1R on switch and I´m hyped for SO2R and I haven´t played the demo so I don´t really know but seems to be a recurring statement in the fandom that mages are better on the remake, but why ?
@@santiagoriquelmeayuso2057 the damage of the mages in the original version were capped (Max: 9999 damage).They are pretty useless in the long run and the fancy animations of the symbology/heraldy takes too much time and will only deal one time damage for a mere 2-7k damage (depends on the symbology of course), Since you played S01, the mechanics of S02 are almost the same.
The remake removed the cap, so mages will deal more damage over time.
@@santiagoriquelmeayuso2057 Additionally to what JanHarveySevilla said in SO1R and the original SO2 spells would stop combat completely to deal their single tick of damage causing battles to take longer just by having an attack mage over a physical attacking party who can just spam special moves without interruption. The remake has reworked how magic works so it doesn't stop combat anymore so combat constantly flows, except (based on the trailers) the most advanced spells. Whether or not the remake's mages can keep up with the melee characters this time still remains to be seen.
Deis, Ashton, Claude and Rena was my main party. Can't wait for the remake!
Ernest with his weapon cat o’ nine tails was for me a deadly combination.
I used Celine to the end oddly enough but I also grinded that mountain REALLY early... the one that will normally wipe you... so I needed all the help I could get... oh it was fun... nothing at top of the mountain of course since well... but you do get to create a lot of overpowered formulas way early once you survive like even 1 battle... like the levels you can get hahah
You know the mountain I mean! ;) Trust me...
Ashton ... ugh lol God that one gimped stat...
Ernest sucks but Opera is awesome but... I always just just skipped them both because TBH they were not worth it to me except to find out their lines...
Leon sucks when you can just use Reina and the purple haired broad. Dias would be awesome but you can only get him in a Rena game...
Admittedly I wish I could hack the game to get him in either game, and ditto for Leon because MEH!
I never could stand Chisato and just used Rena though I occasionally used them both.
Look at that pristine jewel case! You earn major points for quality care of things that scratch just by looking at them!
*me watching this while enjoying doing the arena with Noel* 😢
On my first playthrough of SO2 ever, SO3 was one of my favorite games on ps2 (and I pretend the plottwist never happened). Playing my first playthrough blind, but fun to see whay characters Ive missed out on and will make part of my team next playthrough.
My team atm is
Rena-Claude-Celine-Ashton-Precis-Welch-Dias-Noel
I generally really like the magic hybrid characters in these games, in SO3 my favorites were Adray and Nel, in SO4 i really enjoyed Faize. Ashton I guess is the closest to this style in so2
Adray charging into the centre of the battlefield and then firing off Northern Cross always felt great
Leon's attack has the best reach.
I guess I’m a bowman fan because I am shocked he was ranked so low! Give him a MP restoring accessory keep his killer moves on the default first 2 and let him use all his MP, normally you won’t lose a fight unless you’re forced to lose or you go somewhere with way stronger enemies or have a ton of status effect abilities.
Never found Dias all that useful, late game he felt like a worse Claude. Chisato was a surprise she usually gets benched on my playthroughs but now I want to replay it to try her out. I didn’t know about Opera and Ernest for a few years after I first got the game and totally agree with you, Opera is amazing and Ernest is amazingly bad.
Pretty much excited for the Remake. As much as I like the game I hope for a tad less restrictions. Would be cool you can recruit Ashton and Opera. Any reasons that they are restricted storywise? It's been way to long since I played the game. ^^
Man I had a couple playthroughs of this game waaaay back in the day but there's a few characters in this video that I absolutely do not remember. I don't think I ever recruited Ernest or that other alien and a few others. Pumped for the remake this week.
9:13 love you David ❤️ … but Chai-Say-Toe ? 😂
I always pronounced it something like Cheese-ah-toe but we were young guys! Even then English was not my native language
Its chi- sa - to, simple
However if playing the games in Japanese theirs not enough space to change her name to Chisato in English like for when Second Evolution R got a PS3 PS4 Vita port those versions never left Japan in that case if you want to use a English name and not the Japanese Kanji theirs only enough space to spell her name in Chinese using the English Alphabet.
So in the Import versions I spelled her name as Xiasto which is enough space to spell her name ONLY using a 6 English characters limit.
Magic plays a HUGE part now and the damage to the shields are far better than the CQB members plus the Magic dmg can go over the top 9999 dmg scale which is NUTS lol not to mention the weakness that some bosses have against certain elements towards that spell.
It's too bad the magic users were so underpowered in the higher difficulties and in the bonus dungeon. Hopefully the remaster solves this balance issue! I would really like to use Celine in my final party.
They would be fine if their spells didn't stop the battle, and that thankfully has been removed in the remake.
and yet Celine/attack magic despite that is STILL PURE CRAP with the Marvel Sword on Claude/Rena's 1000 Str weapon they will BOTH kill enemies in earth mode BEFORE a SINGLE spell of Celine's goes off because of that Celine is still pure CRAP.
Oh it does alright. The remaster makes everything so much better
Dias, Claude, Opera and Chisato are always my main 4 every time I play this game.
Not only do I have the original game on my emulator on my android gaming phone but I also got the demo of the remake on my Switch.
celine is an extremely slow spellcaster. Even with motormouth skill, she's still too slow. But I love how her spell visual effects (Southern Cross and Lunar Light are pretty).
Rena has the fastest casting speed in the game for me. Her Starflare is one of my favorite skills to "spam" to interrupt the boss' spell casting. I will usually keep on toggling the spell casting on Rena until it's ready and immediately cast another Star Flare.
Though the spell casters are indeed not the best DPS in the game, but the spells' interactions with each other were interesting. If the boss and character cast the same type of spell, the stronger one will push through, but if both are of the same level, they will CANCEL or REFLECT each other . I found that out when Rena and Leon both casted Star and Shadow Flare at the same time, and the mobs did not get any damage. Then there's that high level eagle mob that can also cast star flare, and when Rena casted starflare at the same time, both spells reflected each other (my characters got the damage from Rena's and the mob got damaged by it's own).
There are also spells that will combine to give a higher damage. Celine's Lunar Light and Rena's Star Flare is a good example. Or Rena's Light Cross and Celine's starlight.
Can't wait until this game comes out next month. Ill be buying it for my switch immediately.
The spell combination is only applicable in Star Ocean Second Story (PS1) unfortunately. It doesn’t work on the PSP version (SO2 Evolution)
@@JanHarveySevilla oh... I didnt get to play the PSP version. That's too bad. It was always a surprise seeing the spells combine or get reflected/cancelled
@@shier_it4956 they made a lot of changes on the PSP version which is why I prefer the PS1 version honestly. Haha
I love everyone in this game ❤ Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤