See Ya Later S.M.A.R.T. Goals!

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  • Опубликовано: 5 май 2019
  • This month we are evolving the S.M.A.R.T goal writing strategy to align with more current understandings of curriculum, learning and assessment! Gone are the days where relying on behaviour as learning was our only strategy. Instead let's look at IEPs as a way of capturing what students CAN do, what strengths they DO have, and how we can MOVE forward! All kids can learN! Let's presume competence and look for evidence that captures learning in multiple ways!
    For recommended resources to support inclusion, including books by Shelley Moore check out: www.amazon.ca/shop/tweetsomem...

Комментарии • 44

  • @FiveMooreMinutes
    @FiveMooreMinutes  5 лет назад +13

    Make an "I can" statement today! What's your statement?

    • @The_Unknown.1839
      @The_Unknown.1839 4 года назад +1

      I'm currently taking an EA program (VIU through Powell River online learning), and we've watched almost every single one of your videos as part of our course. I'd like to say how much I love your video's, your message, the delivery is hilarious, engaging and packed with such amazing knowledge! Thank you and my "I can" statement is that "I can" take what I'm learning from Five Moore Minutes and apply them in my practice when supporting students.

    • @stephenzastrow6168
      @stephenzastrow6168 5 месяцев назад

      I can give a thumbs up! Shelly Rocks!

  • @youngpilgrim5
    @youngpilgrim5 3 года назад +5

    SMART goals always gave me a feeling similar to acid reflex, but I couldn't articulate why... You're awesome Shelley, thanks for doing this!

  • @maryellenskinner7565
    @maryellenskinner7565 5 лет назад +6

    I love this!! These are the types of goals that I have been wanting to create with students for years, but always refrained from doing so because of being told they were not S.M.A.R.T. goals (original use of acronym).

  • @kimberlymerasty502
    @kimberlymerasty502 5 лет назад +5

    Problem #3: EXACTLY! Thank you for saying this out loud and publicly. I am sharing with all my spec ed peeps here in Manitoba.

  • @stephaniescriven
    @stephaniescriven 8 месяцев назад +2

    Could you provide me with some written examples that you have seen in your work? And also Maybe 2 or 3 more examples of triangulation measurements?

  • @yuxiangzhang8554
    @yuxiangzhang8554 4 года назад +1

    This is mind-blowing! Thank you Shelly, let's start the IEP revolution! I wish I can see you again in later this year.

  • @supercheesedragon
    @supercheesedragon 3 года назад +1

    This is freaking awesome! I love the way you present all this its so fun and accessible! In uni we're currently looking at inclusivity in education and SEN, and my lecturer has recommended a bunch of your videos. Rock on!!

  • @semp224
    @semp224 Год назад +1

    Love the way she shares her ideas and explains ! She and her team deserves a subscribe!

  • @BryonyRust
    @BryonyRust 5 лет назад +3

    I am just in love with this. Someone shared your video with me after I made one on the topic of SCRUFFY targets (Ref Lacey, '10). I'm all with you for rewriting that SMART acronym. Thank you!

  • @nationaldownsyndromecoalit2391
    @nationaldownsyndromecoalit2391 4 года назад +1

    Yes! Yes! & YES! Thank you for sharing your passion. I have always been an advocate of “ presuming competence“ and believing that every child CAN! You put this into words so PERFECTLY! I CAN & will be sharing this to our site. ~Heather :-)

  • @sjb29teacher
    @sjb29teacher 3 года назад +1

    I love this video. Thank you. I will be using this to support new teachers and my own work. I appreciate you.

  • @brendanhendrick7048
    @brendanhendrick7048 2 года назад +3

    Curious when the pilot of this different goal writing strategy will be implemented so we can compare SMART 2.0 to old SMART goals on a variety of salient measures (i.e., rate of progress, parent acceptability, implementation fidelity, access for people of color, access to complex language learners, access to general education teachers, attitudes towards inclusive practices).
    Regardless or the moral excellence on display, I won't do things in USA schools without evidence that will hold up in court to ensure free and appropriate public education. I'd love to be SMART 2.0, but my teams are TIED UP, Totally Impaired by EDucationally Unhelpful Policy. Thanks for another great vid!

  • @MellyBean03
    @MellyBean03 4 года назад +2

    I will be sharing this video at our meeting on Tuesday! We had the awesome opportunity last fall meeting with you and I have not stopped following all of what you are about! You are an inspiration to many - Greenwood, BC

  • @lindaviscardis
    @lindaviscardis 5 лет назад +3

    Brilliant! Just ... brilliant!!!

  • @sukischool
    @sukischool 2 года назад +2

    Thank you! I love your re-take on SMART goals and can't wait to share this video with my colleagues.

  • @tynangroves4870
    @tynangroves4870 2 года назад

    I am not a "teacher" teacher - I am a musician tricked into teaching music at a school with no music teacher (I have been the "music teacher" for 5 years now - 8 if you include my volunteer years), but now I am going to be an education assistant (after having worked with adults with disabilities). The vice principal of our school turned me on to your videos, I LOVE THEM.... In Alberta, working with adults, the guys with disabilities have to come up with ISPs the same deal as an I.E.P - I abhor them. If I can circumvent these pathways legitimately I am all in, I can not embrace bureaucracy, I WILL NOT EMBRACE BIG BROTHER.. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and perspective.

  • @kirstielaruem
    @kirstielaruem 2 года назад

    This is one of the most brilliant videos! I. AM. HERE. FOR. THIS.

  • @gerischaffer7488
    @gerischaffer7488 5 лет назад +11

    If I’m not joyful, it’s probably not my fault. 🤣

  • @mrmarksmeets
    @mrmarksmeets 8 месяцев назад +1

    Just seeing this now but the other problem with smart goals is that they are isolated and focus on an end result
    They may be “realistic” but they don’t actually break down the problem you may be trying to solve
    And so If you fail in this smart goal, what have you actually learned?
    That you failed
    Instead what needs to be promoted is the process of problem solving and focusing on the different ways to get to those goals (and that there isn’t always 1 path) not to mention looking at the obstacles as part of a larger overall process.
    Toyota kata (process improvement needs know this) does exactly this.
    Identify the overall goal but experiment your way to get there, identify your obstacles and look at the thinking you are using with a coach (kata coach) to solve those things.
    And then each step on your way to the goal that you identify is a much simpler way of solving problems.

  • @nigelparker7213
    @nigelparker7213 Год назад

    Thanks Shelley :) Watching this made me joyful!

  • @vippiggygirl8926
    @vippiggygirl8926 4 года назад +1

    We from England UK.
    Thank you!!!

  • @renatabonotto
    @renatabonotto 3 года назад +1

    Loved YOUR version of SMART goals

  • @annparisienne4909
    @annparisienne4909 7 месяцев назад +1

    I love your videos, I am going to share your knowledge

  • @celiniafungwachal7584
    @celiniafungwachal7584 3 года назад +1

    OMG... I LOVE YOU SHELLEYMOORE~~~ YOU ARE SO S.M.A.R.T!!

  • @sallychristian1169
    @sallychristian1169 5 месяцев назад

    Love your videos!

  • @michaelwestern5122
    @michaelwestern5122 5 лет назад +5

    I can understand how the SMART goal model will not work for all students all the time. I also know that creating SMART goals have been highly effective for me and for some of my students. I think the problematic nature depends on the quality of the goal. The efficacy of the goal depends on the reflective practice coupled with the understanding that it is ok to feel that you haven't been successful in achieving the goal. Most importantly, I think it is good to look back and determine if that was a good/fair goal in the first place.
    I think if SMART goals aren't working under my understanding of them it is a failure on the part of the mentor/teacher in helping the mentee/student establish quality goals and guiding them through reflective practice.

    • @Nildread
      @Nildread 5 лет назад +3

      To me, it seems like this whole video is trying to reach the attainable and realistic portion. There is also nothing inherently behavioural about SMART goals, so maybe there's a misunderstanding there.
      I'm of the belief that the best person to judge learning is the individual who is doing the learning, they might not realise that themselves though

    • @andeesignsable
      @andeesignsable 4 года назад

      when you write IEPs are the goals you are writing for the student in mind or is it a goal for yourself to achieve... kind of a teacher checklist of what you will teach the student to do. When the student follows your instruction you can check off that he and you have met that goal. If he does not follow the teaching that you provide and does not meet the goal as determined by the way you wrote the goal, then the feeling of failure on the part of the teacher.
      in an inclusive classroom, it is very difficult to have behavior driven goals for one student and everyone else is focused on qualitative achievement. the sped teacher spends all their time doing data. where's the fun in that?

  • @andeesignsable
    @andeesignsable 4 года назад +1

    I love this video. You are witty. Have you written about this concept or is it in print It's probably in your book One without the Other.... which I have but have not read

  • @TheArtOfAdvocacyAllies
    @TheArtOfAdvocacyAllies 5 лет назад +2

    Everyday I can have fun in my life!

  • @debbarron6801
    @debbarron6801 4 года назад +1

    Great video- huge impact for me. Thank you. Might want to spell "Laundry" correctly at the 5:36 mark... or not! lol

  • @barbaramcbryer5979
    @barbaramcbryer5979 3 года назад +1

    Mind blown

  • @h.t.7310
    @h.t.7310 2 месяца назад

    subscribed in 30 secs

  • @Larienlyra
    @Larienlyra 5 лет назад +1

    Where is learning? Now that's something I'm always thinking about :)

  • @patriciamaddux176
    @patriciamaddux176 2 года назад

    Please, can you share an example of a smart goal turned into a qualitative goal?

  • @mwitster
    @mwitster 4 года назад +7

    Thanks for your creative video Shelley. I can really see the care and love that you have for students with disabilities. I agree that creating SMART goals for IEP meetings can feel controlling, and often the goals are never met or even checked at the end of the year. However, in your introduction to your argument, I see the classic straw man fallacy. When you talk about SMART goals, your voice is laced with sarcasm, and you can't remember the complete acronym, why I should I trust that you are fairly debunking it? You said you did research on where SMART goals came from, but you presented absolutely no sources to back this up. Basically, it seems you are assuming that people already agree with you when you don't give the opposing side a fair representation. I can tell don't like SMART goals, but to advocate for their removal without showing why they were implemented in the first place, is not how education policy should happen.

    • @minipirate888
      @minipirate888 3 года назад +1

      OMG... a voice of sanity in this mad channel! Two thumbs waaay up for your comment Michael!

    • @MackerelSoda
      @MackerelSoda 2 года назад

      You know that she posts resources and research for each video on her website, right? You might be interested in listening to Moore giving a list of citations that could easily be read after the video, but I'd rather hear her perspective on SMART goal alternatives. It seems a much better use of a 5 minute video to do that than for Shelley to give you a history lesson first. She's not advocating for their removal either, as you seem to believe, it's more of a rethinking of how the acronym SMART is applied (as noted at the end of her video). She even keeps the SMART acronym while suggesting different ways to approach each of the components of a SMART goal. I'm not sure you really grasped the purpose of the video here.

    • @jenniferbailey2780
      @jenniferbailey2780 2 года назад +1

      I agree with Michael's commentary above. I appreciate the humor, and some of the insight as well. But, the SMART goals you debunk in this video are not written as SMART goals were intended. Although SMART goals, which you clearly disdain, can be formulaic and meaningless, they can also be meaningful ways to measure growth and contribute to student success in inclusive environments. It goes without saying that the current deficit-driven education system is in need of an update.
      However, thoughtfully written SMART goals are not the meaningless, eye-roll-inducing examples you provided. A true SMART goal should take into consideration the learner's strengths and need for supports, the conditions under which the learning will be measured, the learner's rate of acquisition, and how the behavior or skill will be measured. Your given example did not address any of these, and therefore was not "smart" at all.
      As educators we often comply with IDEAs definition of measurable goals, by quantifying observed skills and behaviors, and then tracking them. But with consideration of the learner's needs and a clear picture of where we want to see them grow, SMART goals can be used to measure and communicate the progress we hope to see as we do our important work supporting students.

  • @rburk121
    @rburk121 3 года назад +1

    Why does joy have to be in the IEP? Can't that be a school level issue? And I think that should be a school level goal.

  • @VODKAMAN74
    @VODKAMAN74 3 месяца назад

    what do hell

  • @minipirate888
    @minipirate888 3 года назад

    This person wants to create a world where progress can only be measured by how you feel about it. The students under her approach would have a terrible time trying to hold a job or starting a company where expectations from customers were not aligned with "how they feel" about their performance.
    Just absurd. Particularly coming from a person who admittedly can't arrive anywhere on time or even do their laundry with enough regularity to keep their spouse satisfied.