The First Descendant: First Impressions? I'm Not Impressed
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- I am always up for a new looter shooter, but Nexon's First Descendant does not really stand out to me in these opening hours. I'll give it a chance but character kits and mission design seems really dull, even if shooting is decent enough for a third person game.
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“A monetization model in search of a game” that sums this up perfectly.
Is it that bad ?
@@brunogonzales3752No. It does have monetization, because it's F2P what do you expect? All you see is negative ass people online that spew hate instead of truth or enjoying things. You wanna talk about monetization, D2 fucked everyone for years for 100 dollar expansions then took it from you and people still support it haha.
It's an Asian game they don't care what we think it sells like hot cakes over there so i don't blame them but I won't be buying anything
@@brunogonzales3752100 dollars canadian for a ultimate character but you can grind them to then again league has a 500 dollor skin
@@brunogonzales3752bro so far it's just Asian Warframe with little alterations here and there monetisation is ok similart to Warframe hopeful they don't get scummy with it. It's worth a try. Just had e fun my guy...or gal
"We have Destiny 2 at home"
Destiny 2 from wish.
I am enjoying this game for now, but i LOLd at this
Writers and Original creators of both Destiny and Warframe..,Guild at "Nexon".
You "Americans"....Servants of Roma and Mecca =Americans. Yopur name says it All. Claiming what is yours, that is NOT yours,.YOU Invaded Armageddon and call it "America:.
Who are you again?
Irish-Scottish Hindu= Irish Traveller Murdered.Imposter of the Celts.
or SlaviC+Scandinavian Hindu Mix= Gypsys.
Or an Italian Hindu .
..Traveller. Gypsy = Wandering Israeli Jew.
..Americans = Servants of Roma + Mecca.
If the last man playing Suicide Squad does not like this game. YIKES LOL
Ss isn't a bad game, though....at least from a game engineer standpoint💯
on the other hand if the man who enjoys suicide squad doesn't like this then maybe that means it's good
@jay_mojito I don't know much.. but one thing I do know is that ss is NOT a good game.
Who asked
@@jay_mojitoLOL yes it is
Bungie I appreciate your gun play so much more after seeing this 😅
This is so true! For me it's not only the gunplay it is also the movement. It feels kinda strange and unnatural. Also the grappling hook feels like it was implemented, just to have something movement related in the game.
@@JefferyTrypesthis is the same take I have. Just feels.. clunky?
could't agree more...😌
Destiny gunplay with anthem flying is my dream game
Very true
The boss you are fighting being named fucking GREG tells me all I need to know.
The names are atrocious
@@jenarickman9215 I think some of you need a sense of humor. Like Borderlands, the game doesn’t take itself too seriously.
Tbf if I had to face a boss named Greg I wouldn’t know if I should laugh or fear for my life
OMG The INVESTIGATIVE Core! like who thought that was a good name, or the Colon division, are they in charge of bran and fiber??? lmao
This game has some next-level “Engrish”. The water chick (whose name is also something fucking stupid) has an ability called “laundry”. No kidding. I can’t play a game this dumb.
I've actually been enjoying this game
i found the quests to be very repetetive
@@nsen93 eh that's with the Warframe style it's coming from
Me too
@@nsen93every game is repetitive
Exactly @@teknyon
Don't worry. It gets good after 100 hours.
It should be good from the start, not after 100 hours lol
@@zztzgza Its a meme
I guess the part when you quit
Worst mmo part:100
Don't know how far along he is in that series actually
it's like anthem and warframe had a baby
That was my experience playing the beta. That it was Anthem’s combat with Warframe’s movement.
But everyone complains in Day One of any looter/shooter:
The game’s too small. There’s not enough to do. There’s not enough variety of things to do.
These games take time to gel…and I always find it amazing how everyone else gets criticized for micros that are nowhere near as obnoxious as those in Warframe…..
@@kellygreeniiu act like warframe had a lot to do at launch shit was atrocious and a dog shit ass game way worse then this game by far
@kellygreenii you aren't wrong at all. But, at least you can earn platinum playing warfare, so everything thing van be earned by gameplay alone.
no way it’s the destiny 2 fashion guy
Ya this shit looks like it's gonna tank bad.
As a long time Warframe and Destiny 2 player, I would all for a better put together/more engaging version of Warframe. Not sure if this is looking like it, though.
Looks more to do than destiny not sure what warframe was like on launch, I’m liking it tho
@@danawhiteboy Warframe at launch was very shallow, but it was made during a time where there was nothing like it until Destiny came out a few years later. So the game was supported by very dedicated fans and word of mouth. The key to Warframe's staying power is that it grew very fast listening to player feedback.
I think the problem I see with Korean and Chinese style live service games is that they only listen to a certain part of their audiences. It also doesn't help that this game from the get go is being published by Nexon while Warframe started indie.
@@thatonepenguinperson618 thanks for the breakdown
@@thatonepenguinperson618 that is very much true. I used to enjoy another game called PSO2, a Japanese MMO and they launched a new game called PSO2 New Genesis. and in my opinion it is inferior to the previous game in many ways from the monetization and game mechanics and is very shadow, it seems like the only thing they care about anymore is updating the cash shop/gacha with items... us western players can scream into the wind all we want and our please will go un-acknowledged they only listen to their JP players but even then i wonder about that because things are pretty much the sam on the JP side of things when it comes to the state of the game.
@@danawhiteboy lmao you are saying that this game has more to do than destiny?
As someone who has played Warframe going on 6+ years now, even when this game adds player trading, unless they allow for the premium currency to be traded too, it'll never have anything on Warframe.
Yes, the characters can essentially be crafted, but looking at what you need just for a Ultimate version, it is MUCH more grindy than WF.
WF respects your time, I don't feel this game will.
Now, I have actually been enjoying it. As someone familiar with WF, the modding aspect of everything came quite easy for me, but I won't be surprised if some people are lost on that.
Also, 150 of the Premium Currency for a damn Preset Space so you don't have to keep swapping everything around when changing character? Really? It costs 20 Plat in WF for an extra slot. 150? Hell no. That made me look at the store and while yes MOST are cosmetic, they are very heavily priced.
Saying all this, though, WF has had YEARS to refine its identity and made changes from feedback; give this game time before its called trash, because WF was just as rough when it first came out too. As was D1 AND D2.
I feel like that’s a terrible excuse
because they’ve had warframe as an inspiration
You’d think they would have things like trading and premium currency trading figured out by now.
cuz for warframe it didn’t really have anything to fall back on
They were just going by player feedback and loyal fan base to get it to where it is now
This game tho
could have grabbed the already refined ideas from other games and implemented into theirs but make em better to sort of be on the same level as wf or destiny.
@@whysoserious4274 I agree, like, if another platformer released today, I'm not gonna compare it the original Mario Bros. that released on 1983 or something. Similarly, The First Descendant should not be compared to the first-release versions of Warframe or Destiny.
@@avee5870it depends on what exactly u are judging. If ur talkin about prices n the store, then yeah, that type of thing should b held to a similar standard as other current games. But if ur talkin about somethin like how much content there is, u obviously hafta take into account that it just released so won’t have the same scope and breadth of content as somethin like Warframe or D2 that’s been out for ages.
@@whysoserious4274yes, but they aren’t going to just copy them. They probably ARE working on stuff like that and doing it their own way which will take time. In my opinion this game has at least half a year to improve or else it’ll die. I give it until the end of the first season (currently in the pre season)
@@champion3760 I’m not saying outright copy
But they should’ve had a similar system already in place at launch
If they ever hope to stay afloat in the free to play ecosystem seeing as they aren’t doing it like a gacha game
it needs to be as friendly as it can be
Being too predatory won’t help
It’ll just get the attention of everybody online and get destroyed
They just started yes so this is their best chance to build up a good reputation rather than a bad one
This is a good opportunity that other free to play didn’t have when they started
Look at warframe on launch
It was barely hanging on
But a combination of listening to player feedback and that genius player trading system as well as their game devs playing their own game and realizing a lot of issues that every other gamer faces really helped that game grow
it all starts here
They have a good advantage
Let’s hope they don’t F it up.
The more time goes by the more time I wish anthem had 😢
Such promise. Such a let down at the end!
Anthem kinda has a heartbeat again though. The team behind destiny bought the anthem IP and I believe they are going to try and fix it and launch it again. 🤷♂️ so there is a little hope
@@frosty_mayo2291 source?
@@Chikage773 I gotta find the video. It was a video from bungie back in december I think laying out what their plans are for the future
@@frosty_mayo2291that was an Aztecross prank video. Sorry but that pipedream was a joke. Anthem will not be saved by Bungie 😂
Your abilities can be changed you get upgrades that change some of your abilities up for every descendant answering your question earlier in the video. It’s done through the mod system.
This just made me want a Tassi video on Warframe.
As a warframe player at 2000 hours in... You'd be better off asking God for a fortune.
It gets more fun when you unlock Bunny....but not by much.
Wait, the boss in this clip is named GREG?! Seriously..
Here's the thing a lot of people seem to forget about f2p games, they are free to play and if you spend money on it and complain, you're the issue. If you want a company to stop charging the prices they are, you simply stop buying. But that aint gonna happen because gamers in general are selfish and kinda dumb tbh.
Eh, the whole "demand makes the supply" argument doesn't exactly work when the product they're selling doesn't have a fixed value. They can put as many $20 skins in the store as they want, they don't lose anything for those skins not selling. Is it a waste of dev time? Sure. Could lack of purchases mean less paid cosmetics later down the line? Maybe. But if even a handful of people are buying it, it literally pays for itself and then some. Digital goods don't function like material goods.
@underscore_5450 But what would be the purpose if, hypothetically, everyone stops buying and for them to keep making them? Wouldn't take time out of more important or more substantial work for different content, which, hypothetically, again, could boost player retention and numbers? And if that were the case, wouldn't cheaper cosmetics seem more appealing because it seems like you'd be spending less, but you'd buy more for less. Add that with the free content, adding more people in. You'd be getting $10 from thousands instead of $50 from hundreds. But again, hypothetical and the game is still pre-season. So I guess we'll see how Nexon reacts
@@underscore_5450 Korean grmers will spend that money even if you don't. They love p2w.
It's been fun so far, but I'm actually staying free to play. It's a good distraction for when Destiny 2 or Warframe or whatever you love doesn't have current content, but at this point it isn't much more.
Thats how ive found it, its a nice fix at the moment, and if you like your starter or bunny you dont feel pressed to unlock more characters quick
@@auesip Fr, I went 2 hours in this game and was falling asleep, good way to make me sleepy so i'll keep playing when I can't sleep
@@AlexAlex-od7fj ive not found it boring personally, especially with difficulty ramping up on later content! Ive unlocked a few descendants and some ultimate weapond too!
Played the beta and my issue was that you are essentially limited by the kit for each character . Some the kits felt very similar. The other issue was the method for unlocking different characters seemed very annoying. Looked like a game that was going to be very grindy or heavily monatized. The missions in the areas started to get pretty boring too.
When I played beta I knew this game wasn’t for me
Literally kept reminding me of edz and mars and when a game makes me think of destiny it just means destiny is better and I’d rather play destiny instead of some game that makes me wish I played destiny
Lol funny cause D2 started off terrible in 2017. 2018 before Forsaken bungie was gonna have their studio closed. If final shape didn't sell well Sony was gonna come in and take over.
@@memecrider3585I mean hey I. Agree with him too this game is just lacking and janky movement feels to janky gunplay feels horrible I mean everything about left a bad taste in my mouth and just made me want to play destiny 2 or warframe again
@@memecrider3585how does that relate at all to what he said? lol tf
@@memecrider3585 "2017" this is 2024 lmao. Even the beta for this shit game felt better than the current one.
"wanna take a break from grinding destiny for the 4th week in a row"
YES! this exactly. I will play this for a couple weeks at most, unlock a couple charachters or so and then peace out until they add more content. This will never be a "main" game for 99.9% of players.
Also, new season of Last Epoch is out next tuesday, so I'll have fun with this until then!
Did everyone have audio issues where it cuts out every min for a few seconds?
It looks interesting to me as someone who just couldn’t get used to how fast Warframe was and just didn’t gel with its art style. This looks more up my alley.
Intro was dope af. Was that Blur Studio?
I like you man. You feel like a one of a kind Journalist. An actual gamer
is there any game under nexon that does not flop?
The visuals are very reminiscent of Anthem
I haven't tried it yet, but I do plan to. To those who *are* enjoying it, why is it connecting with you? What is it you're enjoying?
I found it to be more my speed because warframe has always felt a bit too fast paced for me and feel a bit isolated from players in my ship.
Destiny 2 is great but ive always wanted something like it but 3rd person and more MMO-like.
This game checks those marks for me and also gear drops from enemies like in anthem which I also like. Its exciting seeing the purple weapon icons hovering over the drop.
Definitely needs alot of work to really shine.
Sound is mid, UI is basic, story is generic, monetization is very aggressive and overpriced and crafting looks like its going to be a grindfest.
All that being said Im still looking forward to playing it and hope future updates really polish it up to be a great 3rd person looter shooter mmo
@@galestar6481 Thanks for writing that up! That gives me a good sense what to expect!
Being a former warframe player who quit after riven mod was released I just didn't luck how much grind it took to get the riven mod of the gun you wanted then rerolling for the perfect stat with each tries getting more expensive. Aka mostly enjoying it cause everyone on the same leveling field but probably dip if they make something similar to that. Also it nexon so if it does poorly they will EOS unless it maintain a good player base like Maplestory or Blue Archive which grew too big to fail. Also I like to compare to it to warframe and destiny year 1 which is more fair of a comparison which this game does have potential
@@Mao0039 Thanks for the info, Mao!
It feels like there's rust in the cogwheels.
Like it or not this is the new King of looter shooters
First impressions after playing 6hrs of The First Descendant.
Pros: Fun gameplay and great character design and their unique abilities.
Cons: everything else! The grind to unlock other characters you want to play as is going to suck sooo much.
This game won’t last long but hey it’s pretty entertaining to mess around in
is corporate a good word to use to describe this game?
It just looks like a (somehow) weirder Warframe, in an uncomfortable way, without the decade+ of improvement and community build up. The art style feels like an awkward mashup of anthem and Apex, if it was ran through a “japanification” filter
Japanese just don’t get it. Everything from their OMGGGGUITARSOLO theme songs in literally EVERY game to their take on American style is just lame.
@@tonyred5166 it’s always better when a studio leans into their own strength and style rather an emulating that of another region or studio.
@@tonyred5166Uh Im pretty sure this is a Korean game, not Japanese lol.
The environment just doesn’t hit for me
The art style is lacking
Doesn’t catch my attention at all
it’d stick with it some more if the combat was more flexible
Maybe I need to put more hours in to really see if it gets better
But I doubt it
The most I see happening hours later after playing is small ability upgrades that don’t change the combat that much.
@@omegaxtrigun I was responding to OP.
The zones had me very worried the way the progression was, go here clear enemies, go here to marker, maybe 3 or 4 to a zone. The "strikes" seemed okay. The customization seemed very $$ buy me
I'm 1 second in and I just gotta say the UI looks terrible
perfect description of the game, monetization in search of a game, they tried to copy maps from destiny with the textures and characters from warframe and as i see it, since i played from the first beta, the game is not good enough to the actual market, it will never be nothing more than a copy of the other 3 shooter looters in the market
I enjoyed it during beta but was hoping they’d beef it up on release. A bit let down but I’m still hoping for the best
Why's the hud so bad
there needs to be more enemies spawning because youre essentially fighting for kills and spawn trapping the enemies
I'm not a fan of the UI being in the middle rather than on the lower left corner.
Going to try it
I enjoyed playing the beta. It seemed like it had a good foundation to build upon, even if it did take inspiration from a lot of other looter shooters. It was fun to play but overall a bit lackluster. I hope the devs can fix the issues plaguing the game. And I hope they take the feedback about the microtransactions and tone that shit down.
I've played Destiny, Warframe, and Outriders. My take is that I am getting what I paid for, and I will get bored of it just like the other games I listed. I just am not a "lifer" for any game. The one thing that bugs me about human sized bosses in this is that they can spit out what seems like an infinite number of shield generators, which just drags out a fight that is clearly already won.
What always kept me arms length on Warframe was that it’s only crafting. So the fact TFD has on ground loot drops (and rarities) gets me interested. Enjoyed my time with beta #2.
Crafting isn't any different than loot drops. Instead of the item it's a blueprint. It's just a time gate mechanism. And given that Warframe is an EXTREMELY generous free to play game, that's a small price to pay.
@@FlashesSoccer011 yeah different strokes I guess. To me the two are completely different. An item drops and I can immediately equip it. And ascending item rarity adds to that.
Just my $0.02 as a looter shooter enthusiast. Loot was my least favorite aspect in my 60-70 hours in Warframe.
Aside from frames dropping in some locations, some NPCs having the same idle animations which was funny and mostly you grind to unlock characters (I just bought my main I couldn’t wait that long) it’s fun for me. Paul too deep in the Destiny and Diablo well at this point 🤣🤣🤣 game is massive right now, just needs to iron out the performance issues. Mass delete trash items and your vault on patrol still is King. I can’t go back to D2 after that. Why should I manually dismantle 1 item at a time Bungie? Yeah no. You can also select the difficulty for your patrol zone or make it private/public as a toggle. So you can farm in peace or play with only your friends. Crazy huh? The QOL options is what makes this game stand out vs others like it. It’s going places, the story is whatever I’m here for everything else 🙂↕️
i been having fun with it. i love simple games like this with out crazy complex things in it.
Was looking forward to this game when I saw the Game Awards trailer a couple of years ago. (Amazing trailer btw)
Skip forward to the recent play test a few weeks ago and it's just so boring.
It feels unfinished, music is non-existent during gameplay, so much "jank" whereever you look, you immediately feel OP as enemies pose 0 threat to you from the start.
Weapon drops aren't diverse enough and every enemy seemed to drop a gun meaning you had dozens on the ground when your inventory fills up.
There were about 10,000 different materials to collect which lead into a maze of crafting possibilities which is just a massive off-put because you know those will become the only thing you're chasing in the end game.
Can't see it lasting in it's current state, maintenance only status in 6 months tops
I don't see this game making the gameplay loop super fun..idk, I'm level 8 but i see a pattern. Alot of the abilities are kinda mid, unlike warframe I like that you don't start in a ship and have to pick a mission. I liked that in destiny, you start in a hub and are able to do missions in zones/planets, makes me feels less crammed in a space and told to get back in the corner
yes they need to make the abillities more cool, and more impacting. Like maplestory skills lol
Despite the company, Monetization and even repetitive grind, I'll give it a good while before ultimately making a decision of whether to actually spend money on it or not, but knowing the company I figure it may go out within a few months.
This game feels like playing Outriders without the cool weapon mods
Yeah that alone would make this game much more fun. I hope they implement something like that in the future.
So far the coolest weapons in the game are the ultimate guns because they all have unique perks that tie in with descendants and you can make pretty cool builds with.
Destiny 2 still is the reigning live service champion. Many try to mimic it but fails.
Nothing will ever beat destiny
Fallout 76 has also been a dark horse
IMO no one has yet actually tried to replicate Destiny. Actually see what's good & bad in Destiny and learn from Bungie mistakes. Anthem said they would but later revealed they didn't play destiny, Sushi Squad Dev just admitted he never played Destiny. It's such a hurdle to have end game, content, good FPS feels. IMO no one has yet to even TRY and dethrone destiny. It's actually embarrassing
@@EchoDoctrine at this point it’s probably too late destiny has been around for a decade now it’s such a household name even if someone did try to beat it it would take a long time for it to prove itself
Similar to gta and how there’s many games similar to it but gta is just the king and no one can wants to or probably even afford to spend 10 years making a game to rival it especially cuz it’s such a big risk
If it flops that literally 10 years wasted while gta KNOWS it will succeed and the devs are so talented that whatever takes another company 10 years to do rockstar can do in just 2 years
Same goes for bungie
If bungie got a modern engine instead of their tiger engine (basically a d3) it’s gg and anyone who has been or is currently working on a destiny rival would have literally wasted their efforts
Anyone can learn from the best but it’s a whole different thing to actually BE the best and we really take bungie for granted and the fact they are still trying new ideas after 10 years and basically perfected their craft shows not only how great bungie is but also makes it insanely difficult for anyone to even try to compete with them
This is a free game, and new. And i like it so far. The first 2 reason combined is why i play this and not Destiny 2.
My Lord found the game called Warf frame. The only difference is you have to click the prices down a little bit quite exactly the same amount of warfront with basically the same character set up as Warf frame with basically the same gun set up the war frame with the same missions structure as war frame although were war frame has I don’t know eight or nine or 10 different missions on a planet cookie card acrossmap this game has like four or five in a zone and then some of them are off into the special and that, but this is just a copy of warfare, black tackle barrel all the way from the the game design that the shooter had back to the vet designation and the cash shop
I really like your idea that this is a monetisation model in search of a game. I played a few hours of the game, and it is fun at the moment, gunplay feel punchy with ps5 controller, the vibration and adaptive make every shot feel meaty. Crafting gun and character mechanic is cool, not sure how grindy it is going to be, and I think that would be the tipping point for whether I would continue to play or stop if the game can be too much time sink.
Honestly it's not bad, While D2 is stale this will keep me entertained, haven't reached endgame yet but its alot of grinding which I dont mind. Just dislike how its Pay 2 Win, or pay for convenience
The interception battles are pretty fun, but yeah it doesnt have a lot if staying power for now...kind of a play intil you get bored and xlme back in 6 months kinda deal.
Also, you didn't mention the insane markup on critical gameplay items from warframe. Doubling your mods cost $30 here, vs $1.50 in WF.
Great review. I played for seven hours and agree with nearly everything you said! I think it'll last for a few years in Korea, but will die within a couple months in the west.
I'm 6 hours in or so, there were a few strikes type mission that I enjoyed... Special ops missions that I failed even though I have all my weapons and some mods upgraded... I don't think it's a game that will have traction for long unless the end game loop is great!!but so far in the free to play market there's definitely a place for it! I do hope they optimize the loot and some aspects of the game play, sometimes it feels great sometimes it give too much free to play energy...
I love the game but it needs some good patch work
Mobile game ahhhh game
If it looks familiar is because it’s Anthem reborn
So it's a sexier Outriders?
Im actually enjoying the game more than i thought i would have. Sometimes you gotta stop comparing your side chicks to your wife, every one of them has their charms.
The fact that this game is published by South Korea's Bandai Namco(Nexon), concerns me greatly. The gameplay seems fine so lets see how the "service" part of the game ends up being.
I'm not saying this game is amazing or anything but it has potential. Like let's compare this F2P game to the F2P version of D2
Right but people playing destiny are normally buying stuff
Its always easy to Compare it to something that does basically everything Wrong. Compare this F2P Game to Warframes F2P and it immediately falls off.
@@Josh-oh5bs yea. Destiny is a disguised subscription service that really has a “free to taste” trial
Destiny is not or it'll never be a free 2 play game. It's basically a "free 2 try" or "pay 2 play" because many things locked behind paywall.
Its not bad. I see potential in it. Its more like warframe, but with raids added.
Getting really really bad frame drops on ps5, gonna try Xbox next see if any better🤔
I played the game on PlayStation and I liked it. It gave me a break from Destiny 2. It's better than Suicide Squad (before I found out it's a dead game) and Anthem (didn't even get to play it - paid for both games - joke was on me. 😭)
I just wish I could have destiny but more solo leaning
Yeah, Lightfall is not solo friendly
Have you played any of the Borderlands games? It's a shift in tone and art style and the writing is questionable at times, but it's a great solo PvE looter shooter.
@@underscore_5450 played them all, massive fan, especially 2. Defo more fun with friends than solo however
@@underscore_5450 I played 2,3 and tiny Tina. I like them a lot but it’s as you say the writing can be a bit grating at times.
Same
If you get into warfare now, your spending a year at least catching up to the other players that are in endgame I mean it’s not like you can jump in and just grind your way up to endgame in a heartbeat. It takes time there’s so much content so much to do so much story, and you really just have to work your way through every planetary body unlocking them there’s no way to skip ahead where here may not be the best thing in town gets a fresh start
I can appreciate the ASSets used, but man the monetization is somehow even worse than Destiny's. Looks like it's back to Elden Ring.
I actually really like the gunplay somehow. But I agree I have no idea what’s going on with anything else and the monetization is over the top.
I purchased the Dino jammies for fun. I am digging the changes from the beta. It's a pretty fun game all in all.
This comment piqued my interest, haha
it feels a bit like War frame, Outriders and Destiny 2 and all around "been there, done that" - I went back to Lies of P NG+ progress after about an hour of this. not sure I am keeping this. I think I rather play FarCry5 for the first time ever and then Fires of Rubicon right after that, or simultaneously.
10:33 RIP to Greg. 😔
No, in the general mission, the main story missions are like four or five. They’re all the same mission type, but then you have to special operations, which literally are more mission: right out of warfare like the fastest mission for you kill waves of infested there wave mission like that where you just kill waves so vulgar.
I agree. Everything about warframe just feels more solid and did so when it launched. This game is cool but it isn't neither unique nor very strong in any area. But it's ok to farm a bit and level some stuff.
Idk if this was first person w a great storyline and great weapons and fun dungeons maybe can compare it to destiny lol
i don’t think it’s that bad. yet, i see this as a bungie attack against a competitor. you’re a destiny youtuber that sometimes plays another game. thinly veiled attacks against competitors is really low.
It is very similar to warframe. Theres a few things here and there i can tell they got inspired by desting. Overall i think the gameplay is comparable to warframe but it does start slower until you progress story and start getting more mods etc. Also the grappling hook could be smoother. Where this game stands out from warframe for me is the loot, the loot has way more depth with random rolls and each roll has rarities to those rolls. I can also say similar to warframe the game doesnt feel as smooth early on because you dont yet have a stockpile of resources because you just started. I also just recently discovered in the game special operations in zones which are defense/wave survival missions with scaling difficulty the longer you go and the mob density and difficulty goes crazy the longer you go. These missions so far are the most engaging missions ive found.
I'm enjoying it.
I played this for a bit more than one hour, and the one thing that put me off was the dumbness of the AI. At least in Destiny some enemies hide from you, specially the ones that have a shield to recover. In this game, they just come straight in your direction, not much "AI" in it.
I wouldn't say there are "so many other games" like this on the market. Especially F2P. Outriders is all but a memory, Anthem failed, so that really leaves Warframe and Destiny as the big boys doesn't it? We need more of these not less. Not enough to them to call any new game "generic" yet. (Not to quote Paul, that's just what I see many people comment.)
"The best I can say is: gunplay feels... okay"
Game is ok but disconnects every 10 mins :(
Story was fine for a shooter. It was actually halfway decent. The reason anthem failed is because it had a outrageously bad launch. It didn’t start with any endgame at all. It took him several months to work out all the problems and by the time they got there everybody was on something else if you go play anthem now other than the fact that it’s still as since they never redesigned the game it still has a bad gameplay loop. I mean all the loading screen the fact that every time you’re going to mission you have to go through several loading screen coming and going getting back to get another mission. That’s why it failed that the fact that the free area should’ve had you know at least three many people in it, right when you go play free roam is probably where a lot of people are gonna grind out gear. There are events event particulars that I remember that’s really not that doable by yourself and nobody shows up because there’s only three other players and they’re doing their own thing this game on the other hand has the free room zones, but they’re small one and everybody that’s in that building is probably working on the same mission you’re working on or they wouldn’t be there and shouldn’t fail they should’ve redesigned it but if you get to looking at what anthem was there was really only about a year of development and anthem it would’ve taken another three years to fix it to the proper development anthem that way itself not the loop itself, but that mechanics like the shooting the movement the various Axle skeleton whatever they were called that was all really stellar and a lot of fun and when they came in which they did, I think they are four or five strong. They’re a lot of fun too even to repeat I repeated and repeat it and even got the point where I did them all grandmaster solo With the certain character of my whatever my skeletons could do them solo or frame I mean anthem is a good game now it’s just still got the initial problem. The man long loading screen the massive number of loading screen does the stupid design the garage, the plant for the city, did it right? The city is a shared area you launch from the city you come back to the city anthem launch launch into a free mission. Then you have to go through a loading screen to get into instant. Patient then have to go through a loading screen to come back out then you have to go to the loading screen to go back on the platform then you have to go through the loading screen to go into the city or into thegarage I mean it’s just terrible fucking design and it would’ve taken them years to redo it and massive changes to the game so no wonder they decided to drop the project
A bunch of people here with Destiny 2 Stockholm Syndrome
There won't be enough to interest me long term, collecting different skins for the same characters has never been a driver for me in any game. Had the story not been the biggest pile of nonsense i might have persisted with it.
I played about an hour and had a good time. I never played war frame so I can’t compare
It feels like a combination of Warframe and anthem. Minus the awesome flying.
And I've played both well also playing Destiny the entire time.
I guess I don't see why this game exists.....
At least the division had like a more grounded realistic feel to it. And for all of Destiny ones original problems the shooting mechanics were absolutely fantastic.
And then there was the vault of Glass.
The vote of glass for Destiny is like what iron Man 1 was to the MCU.
F2p game gonna take a while to get quite diverse
Yh gonna take half a decade lol
I played yesterday and it was quite underwhelming for me .. every mission felt the same and it got "boring" really fast. but then i remembered how Destiny started when it launched sooooo maybe this will also be a lot better after community feedback and future updates. fighting GREG really sucked though ;)
Yeah, I really don't get the comparisons to Anthem. The grapple hook feels super tacked on in this, and Anthem's flying was used for traversal, you can't attack when you're flying (except for one javelin, right? Storm can hover and shoot? I don't know, I only played Colossus). I guess it's because of the look and feel of the shooting? That just makes it a sci-fi 3rd person shooter then, not "Anthem" specifically.
But yeah, what I played of the open zones in this from the betas felt like Warframe's open zones if that was the only thing in the game, and while I love Warframe's open zones, they're fun just for the open air to fight in, not so much mission structure, and even then, things can get faster and more wild than this. Here, it's so much more down tempo. You would think Nexon would take note of the newer stuff Warframe's done to up the ante on mission objectives and start from THAT point with more movement and placement and speed and push mobility to the limit. Only, they seem like they just saw the Plains of Eidolon reveal back in 2017 and were like "yes we need to copy THIS."
It’s Day One….. This game looks like early Warframe. With parts of Anthems ground-based combat thrown in. There is only so many variations available to a shooter game.
@@kellygreenii It's been in development for 5 years. "Early Warframe" was slapped together in 9 months.
Yes, the ground combat resembles Anthem, but saying "it's like Anthem" is a little weird considering most people associate Anthem with "mechs that fly," not "generic sci-fi run and gun."
@@RedShadowOfSaturn Yeah…and early Warframe played like the sort of disorganized mess you’d expect.
The issue is that Warframe got to work out its problems in obscurity. People are coming to this game e or tiny to have their minds blown…and no one promised anything like that.
I swear, some of you are the architects of your own unhappiness.
This game’s play loop looks smooth, polished, and fairly creative.
@@kellygreenii Only it's not smooth, or polished, or creative. The grapple hook is tacked on, trendy and janky, the gunplay is generic, and the abilities and upgrades are literally derivative of a competitor one-for-one...that means ZERO creativity. When Warframe was doing that 11 years ago, it was different and unique. It's 2024, tons of games have come and gone, grown and shrunk, lived and died. Games need to ITERATE and INNOVATE. You can copy someone else, and that's fine for the time being, you can succeed...but you're risking uniqueness and individuality by doing that.
Trust me, I'm not expecting First Descendant to release with the type of story quality as Second Dream, or have the most different gameplay loop ever achieved, OBVIOUSLY many things are going to follow looter and/or shooter standards. But in order to survive in this space, you need to wow people in order to stay alive long enough to be able to grow.
You're right, Warframe grew in obscurity until more people said "yo, where's this game been my whole life." And people are still saying it. If First Descendant was that lacking in features to make it stand out, why didn't it do the same thing? Grow in obscurity, develop a grassroots playerbase, and THEN take the world by storm? Stay in beta until you had something worth showing, instead of engaging in a massive marketing campaign?
They copied Warframe, kudos to them for that...but it feels like a massive half-measure.
@@RedShadowOfSaturn Nonsense. I’ve been playing shooters for decades and I played the beta on PS5. Nothing about the game was “janky”. The only problem I saw was the code was buggy and prone to crashing. That’s it… and very common for shooter betas.
But man do I get TIRED of gamer hysteria. Where everything either hast to be “mindblowing”…or “complete trash”.
If you prefer a particular type of game, fine. Everyone has a right to their preferences. But this need to trash talk everything else just makes for a toxic environment where everyone ultimately loses.
I was bored during the open beta or whatever that was last year and it doesn't look like anything has changed.
If you're not used to JRPG style games, then the UI and HUD and just how the game feels is probably going to throw you off a lot and you're going to call it a bad game even though internationally it's pretty successful and pretty standard for JRPG style games.
Looks like Anthem with a ghost 😂
Ghost is an annoying character. At least the guide is hot
"My main game has 50$ expansions a premuin currency and a lot micro transactions but in this free to play game they are bad" type of video
So uh, D2 is also f2p. How are you gonna defend it for one game but say it's bad for another? I guarantee this new one is gonna try a $50 expansion too
@@underscore_5450 we both know that destiny is not f2p xD the point is that ypu get the entire game free 2 play and dont have to buy 250$ of dlc
@@underscore_5450Destiny 2 is not F2P joker
I think The First Descendant is okay not great feels like an average game but I can have fun with it but I don’t plan on spending money unless I really want to
My first impression was the anticheat detecting the physx Nvidia software and closing the game
Then the game just crashes before shader compilation can even get completed
My first impression is that the game is literally unplayable, if it wasn't a f2p game I would be pissed
It's Wish Warframe
Edit: Dull and generic are good descriptions. Feels very mobile with its UI and mechanics.
I think warframe 1999 is goin to have something similar to this with the new protofram but I think de will making it better
1:24 lol right before you said "this is warframe" I was just thinking "uhh warframe" lmao.. If I liked this game I would be playing it but It does have an audience I suppose warframe I mean.
I think it’s fun for what it is. I don’t need a Destiny replacement, i just need something fun to mess with while I wait three weeks for the new arc.
Its nothing like Warframe - the abilities, gun upgrade system, the movement, the missions are more like destiny