The Cycle: Frontier - Why You Should Stop Using The 'Best' Armor!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @APTUOM
    @APTUOM 2 года назад +1

    Great content! Also cheers for Eluveitie

  • @austinabbott1857
    @austinabbott1857 2 года назад +4

    Best the cycle RUclipsr out there helped me learn lots fast definitely subed!!!

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      Thank you!!! Glad my stuff is helping people!

  • @Sima0
    @Sima0 2 года назад +3

    Corax with a new guide lets go!

  • @kelticowl9400
    @kelticowl9400 2 года назад +6

    Another great vid, mixed feelings when it comes to the higher tier armors. As a solo player with a limited amount of time to invest, I appreciate that the game doesn't require the higher end armors to be successful. That being said, I can completely understand the view point of players that get to that point and are disappointed by the perceived lack of survivability. These game balancing factors take time to work out and based on how the Dev's are not afraid to make tweaks, I'm sure some compromise will be found. Cheeers

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      Oh I get that perspective as well and I feel it, I also don't have that much time to put into grinding and as it stands, I'm rather happy with Rare armor being so efficient but it shouldn't be like this as the people who put in the grind for the bigger armors should get rewarded more substantially for it!

  • @theHyperion12
    @theHyperion12 2 года назад +2

    i mostly run blue body armor and purple head armor, as for me its cheaper to craft the purp helm then blue helm in material cost.

  • @monstermaier2581
    @monstermaier2581 2 года назад +1

    Very Good Video 👍

  • @haloprogabriel
    @haloprogabriel 2 года назад +3

    Agreed endgame here. It is not worth crafting purple and up armor right now. They only give you a slight advantage Blue is where it is at.

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      100%, best way to flip a profit and some carefree gaming!

  • @ChadRhat
    @ChadRhat 2 года назад +3

    Blue is the best bang for your buck imo.

  • @Narko_Marko
    @Narko_Marko 2 года назад +1

    i did not understand how much i would have to grind to get gear in this game that can be lost in seconds.

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      That is always the case in games like this ofc but it's also what can make them so rewarding :)

    • @Narko_Marko
      @Narko_Marko 2 года назад +1

      @@CoraxGGStreams i expected to get some mission progress in every run but it turns out i need 50 runs just to get some optic glass

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      @@Narko_Marko Sounds like you’ve either been very unlucky or you’ve been looking in the wrong places!
      Try vaccine labs or waterfall labs on bright sands for Optic Glass!
      Expecting progress every run is kindontvoeringen expecting a lot when you get a little further in the game 😉

    • @Narko_Marko
      @Narko_Marko 2 года назад +1

      @@CoraxGGStreams last two runs i died to a guy charging me with a knife and killing me in two hits, while im wearing green armor, im quitting.

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      @@Narko_Marko sad to hear that but that is the nature of the game, it’s high risk high reward and that guy got it!
      It’s happened to me as well, in full blue armor 😊

  • @mrsaltydino4817
    @mrsaltydino4817 2 года назад +3

    The only thing I will add is that the higher tier of gear the more the devs assume your survivability goes up against most players if you run into a blue squad with a brute you can make light work of them. I don’t think pink or purple should be profitable after one raid but I do agree it should be cheaper. I think it’s should be about 2 to 3 raids because if it was to easy to make profit with it people will rush it and then there will be a surplus of it making end game gear better but exponentially more expensive is fine I think purple and pink gear should stay a rarity instead of a commonality. Love your content keep bringing use the cycle content

    • @wbakOG
      @wbakOG 2 года назад +2

      Man, grey armor is the meta. Can easily do jungle 60k runs, and 100k runs at crescent fall. Tactical all the way, and spam smokes+grenades.

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      Hmmm, of you’re solo and running into a blue squad with brutes, they will absolutely murder you unless they have no idea what they are doing…
      The thing is, survivability just doesn’t go up enough to justify the cost!
      Imo they need to both buff the armor value, lower the price AND adjust repair costs to make it viable and worth it.
      There needs to be a tipping point and right now, it doesn’t tip an you’re just better off staying blue and happily making profits

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      @@wbakOG while there’s something to be said that that will work, I personally don’t enjoy that as I don’t feel like I’m playing the game at that point.
      Putting yourself in the ‘no risk’ scenario just dulls the entire game experience!

    • @wbakOG
      @wbakOG 2 года назад +1

      @@CoraxGGStreams It's dull, but the game is about grinding. The most efficient way is the best way, and after that you can have fun at the end game. Probably gonna be hard to kill alpha crushers, so exotic equipment + epic weaponry is really expensive, need to earn and save money. And there's the oil, mine runs that are basically full PVP. Literally the orbital cannon is EXPENSIVE, and I'm not going to spend the money for rare/epic weaponry if it's that freaking costly. But you can have fun with double bulldogs, or the trenchgun. I've gotten rare/epic armors easily with it.

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      @@wbakOG oh yeah, I understand the approach, all I’m saying is I couldn’t do it like that as I’d burn out from the grind!
      I’m addicted to trying out new shinies 😂
      But I’m not knocking your way of playing as you are correct in that it can be the most efficient way!

  • @SharonBaxton
    @SharonBaxton 2 года назад +1

    I don’t understand the argument that people should always have a fair chance to kill people way more geared than they are. If I’m in full purp armor, someone in green should struggle greatly to kill me. I should have the advantage. I put more risk in bringing the item, I should have an inherent advantage. The way mmr works you’re going to be playing with people around your gear level anyways.
    People just want to run trench guns and bulldogs to get easy kills with no risk. If I spend a large chunk of time and money on a set of gear, then I should feel it in game, not be in fear of being two pumped by some dude sitting in a corner in full white armor.
    Dying in full purple gear to a team of green armor with green guns just doesn’t feel good.

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад +1

      Well, the MMR system has nothing to do with gear so assuming that it puts you in lobbies with similar geared people is sadly wrong.
      I agree higher level gear should feel like an advantage but I also don't feel like you should just be able to tank a squad of green geared peeps just because you're rocking exotics. Struggling greatly is too much imo as that would take the pvp-skill aspect out of the equation too much and that wouldn't be good for the longevity of the game.
      The point about the trench guns and the bulldogs is fair though but Yager knows this and is actively nerfing these, but they're taking it in increments instead of just deleting the thing out off existence.

    • @SharonBaxton
      @SharonBaxton 2 года назад +1

      @@CoraxGGStreams people keep telling me that the mmr isn’t based on gear, but it always feels like when I drop fully geared that’s always when I get killed by a cheater and when I go in with nothing everyone else in the lobby has nothing, but it may just all be coincidental.
      I’m a multiple times apex pred in apex, so I come with a lot of fps background as well as having a few hundred hours in tarkov. It just feels bad when the ttk on me when I’m full purple is the same as if I’m in green gear when I 1v1 someone. I’ve lost a few advocates while in full purp to someone in green/blue gear that by all accounts I outplayed, yet I’m the one who ends up on the ground. I feel like every kill I get I’m playing my ass off for, good movement, outmaneuvering, outaiming, then sometimes I just get beamed.
      Then with cheaters as bad as they are I can never fully tell if someone is legit or not.
      Another thing, if I’m full purp with purple weapons, I shouldn’t be getting aim punched by guns green and below. That makes no sense to me at all. Aim punch shouldn’t exist at all imo, but I shouldn’t get aim punched by a manticore when I’m purped up

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      @@SharonBaxton Problem here is that there are hacks that tell cheaters what gear you're wearing so going in full purple with a big gun, they'll come for you.
      The TTK issue is something the studio is aware of and they are trying to figure it out but they choose to do buffs and nerfs in incremental changes so it might take some time to get the right balance! I do agree that TTK should feel different the better the gear you're wearing.
      I don't agree on the aim punch thing though, not having aim punch just doesn't make any sense, if you get hit by a bullet you'll flinch, even if your armor is taking the worse of it...

    • @SharonBaxton
      @SharonBaxton 2 года назад +1

      @@CoraxGGStreams i'm def more in favor of this game being super fast paced and less tarkov-like, so i'm biased in that way. this game feels like its trying to be a fast paced looter shooter but also holds onto some of the more tactical things from tarkov, and i personally don't like that. Let EFT be EFT and just make this game fast paced and free moving. getting stuck on stuff while trying to jump and climb mid fight is no fun imo.
      Sorry for all the rants, but thanks for replying. I lost like 4-5 purp kits last night and was def just frustrated and needing to vent LMAO you earned a sub, keep up the content man :D

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      @@SharonBaxton The getting stuck part is something that frustrates me as well, especially on Crescent Falls but I, in general, like the more tactical, slightly slower gunfights more then allout crazyness of something like Apex Legends. But then again, I also really enjoy Tarkov so I'm biased in that direction!
      And I get it man, losing high end gear sucks and can put any man on tilt but thank you nonetheless for the kind words and the sub!

  • @rootntoot2215
    @rootntoot2215 2 года назад +1

    I've never really crafted armor 🤔 I just go in with either green or white and get kills on people with green or blue or do puzzles and get a chance of gear in the boxes lol so far got 1 purp set 3 blue and 4 greens also I didn't know this at first but empty people's backpacks and put it in your own I've gotten like 3 blues that way

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      Fair for sure but probably not sustainable over the long run tho ;)

    • @rootntoot2215
      @rootntoot2215 2 года назад +1

      @@CoraxGGStreams oh yeah for sure most people are gonna want to craft their own stuff but as for me ima bit of a madlad XD

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад +1

      @@rootntoot2215 Haha, you do you and live your best life!

  • @Jibbzz
    @Jibbzz 2 года назад +2

    I feel like the whole economy is wonky bc there aren't really any weapon/armor drops in world. PLUS no Flea! It's like the cost/benefit of going out in a slick instead of a gzhl c5. Chances that you will run into someone that will have ammo to beat class 5 is low, and if they DO have ammo that will pen class 5, chances are it's Igolnik or something that would pen c6 anyway. All this to say, that blue armor is the best in terms of cost and what you will actually need protection against.

    • @jermu8706
      @jermu8706 2 года назад +4

      a fleamarket would be a mistake for a free game.

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      There are actually gun spawns in the world, you need to know where to look!
      Same for armor.
      Flea market would be a horrible idea tbh especially as the game is free and the influx of cheaters trying to make money off RMT would be a huuuuuuge problem!

    • @StovnOG
      @StovnOG 2 года назад

      My biggest issue is the armour in the game.. its incredibly unbalanced. Blue is just insane, bad players in blue armour can out right just W key people in green armour who are probably better than them.. game needs a HUGE rebalance. Might as well just play tarkov.

    • @jermu8706
      @jermu8706 2 года назад

      @@StovnOG That's just not true. Not even statistically. You tank 2 more shots from a manticore when wearing blue vs green. 2. If you have a problem with that, and judging from your "might as well just play tarkov" comment this genre is just not for you and you need to look for something else to play.
      in tarkov gear matters less than on the cycle, which also makes me think you gave tarkov 10 hours, got your shit kicked in and never looked back.
      Idk what other signals you need for you to understand this genre isnt for you

    • @StovnOG
      @StovnOG 2 года назад

      @@jermu8706 nah I actually prefer tarkov. I have 3400 hours just waiting for wipe. I guess my wording was poor. Because of the armor in this game and how one sided it feels to go against blue armor W key warriors I would rather just play tarkov. I remember when they added the face hitbox in tarkov... God I wish that were here lol.

  • @WilderQ
    @WilderQ 2 года назад +1

    Blue armor isnt 19 armor value.... It is 23! you got that 19 from the tactical set.

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      Correct, as I suggest using tactical, especially when running solo!

    • @WilderQ
      @WilderQ 2 года назад

      @@CoraxGGStreams When comparing armor values it doesnt make sense to compare tactical to none tactical especially when you dont point it out. just missleads people.

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      @@WilderQ What I did here is compare the armor piece that I recommend using to an exotic, of which no tactical variant exists. While I understand it might be confusing and I could have represented that a little better, it's in no way an attempt at misleading people!

    • @WilderQ
      @WilderQ 2 года назад +1

      @@CoraxGGStreams 100% i have no doubt it wasnt intentional at all my friend :) just trying to inform it is going to mislead some people. no worries man

  • @PersonVoid
    @PersonVoid 2 года назад +2

    If they increase the damage reduction then its going to be too broken. They should give it additional perks instead to make it worth while, for example faster stamina regen, higher jumps, speed increase, extra pockets to store items, less weigh , IR lights etc... Cause at least if youre fighting someone with red armor you still have a chance to kill them, but damage reduction is just going to have a negative impact on most of the player base.
    Red armor are suppose to be expensive and not worth while so that you dont just die and then put on another pair. When you use expensive armor then it should be a tactical decision, for an difficult missions only.
    As a true fps gamer i need to say this ... Perks are always nice to compensate for something expensive since it makes the game more fun and convenient. But increasing the damage reduction is going to have a negative impact on the majority of communities experience.

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад +1

      That’s a very interesting take tbh… adding additional value to higher tier armor could definitely be very interesting!
      However some increase in dmg reduction makes perfect sense as well, for example like Tarkov or irl body armor…

    • @WhatNameShouldiType
      @WhatNameShouldiType 2 года назад

      They could just do a system similar to Apex Legends.
      Instead of doing some really bad damage reduction model, they could just do more effective HP by having shield health. Then, if they REALLY wanted to keep the Penetration model, then helmets would affect the aim punch inflicted on someone via headshots. Lower tier penetration = less aim punch than higher tier helmet (e.g. AR-55 = no aim punch on exotic helmet).
      Shields can be repaired via new consumables probably dubbed “Shield Charger” and “Shield Generator” or the exact same names as Apex Legends (Shield Cell + Shield Battery).
      This would mean that gas grenades become even stronger because they deal damage straight to health, and regular grenades could be buffed by dealing more damage to shield.
      Regular grenades would work by doing something like: 50 base dmg, additional 50% damage against shields, and all of this balanced with damage drop-off based on distance away from center of explosion.
      Additional ways to prevent some crazy grenade stacking like Apex’s past would be to increase weight by 2-5 units each.
      Higher tier guns could be balanced by having one or more of the following: higher damage, more DPS, less damage drop off, high bullet velocity, less bullet drop, hit-scan, etc.

  • @gotcrazy4897
    @gotcrazy4897 2 года назад +1

    Mrs and Mr shouldn't it be mr and mrse

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      Ok, you got me here, I’m confused? 🤔

  • @marconadal1412
    @marconadal1412 Год назад

    Why doesn't this game introduce PVE mode? It would be nice to enter the map without other hostile players, so as to become familiar with bots. It would be enough to limit the extraction of the loot to the safe pocket.
    This would help many players to finish the missions, impossible to finish if you play alone and the campers are waiting like worms.
    I've played Season 1, 2 and now 3 but I've never managed to raise the accommodation beyond level 5, which required Falcatore's hard meet, this isnt a good think.

  • @mehDOGIESRATS2222
    @mehDOGIESRATS2222 2 года назад +1

    Time to price needs to change , starts to come off as a bit pay to win

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад +1

      Not really imo, the pink and purple armor don't give enough extra benefit to make it a p2w thing, if people are doing this with aurum they're basicly shooting themselves in the foot and the wallet...

  • @lmmunne
    @lmmunne 2 года назад +1

    dont craft exotic helmet please!!! i wanna oneshot from kinetic all :D

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      Patch 1.4 is nerfing repair costs so I might have to remake this video ;)

    • @lmmunne
      @lmmunne 2 года назад +1

      @@CoraxGGStreams repair costs its not a problem when u will loose ur gear becouse of kinetic headshot

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      @@lmmunne brave of you to assume you’ll hit those!

  • @yobob6763
    @yobob6763 2 года назад +1

    unless you just do the mission to get it for free

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      True but that’s only a little taster though, after you lose that it’s back to the crafting table 😂

  • @swapniltathehcl
    @swapniltathehcl 2 года назад

    My main reason not to use any higher armor than Green is.... CHEATERS!
    They hunt such players on priority, because cheats allow them to know you have best armor from miles away. 😞

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад +1

      That has indeed been happening in the higher MMR buckets but with every update and measure Yager implements it is getting better!
      And, like I explain in the vid, higher tiers aren’t really worth it anyway 🥲

  • @colezeller4861
    @colezeller4861 7 месяцев назад

    personally i feel the games demise wasnt due to cheaters.... those are everywhere in everygame... no getting around that.... the highest end armor and weapons were literally out performed by lower gear...

  • @kd9896
    @kd9896 2 года назад

    They need to make it so pve and pvp enemys do different damage to different armor’s like my level three armour should be insane against PVE but it should be barely better for player versus player

    • @CoraxGGStreams
      @CoraxGGStreams  2 года назад

      By lvl 3 you mean blue?
      I get the idea but I can imagine this would be hard technically…