Why you should (almost) never shoot yourself in Buckshot Roulette

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  • Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
  • Just shoot the Dealer bro, he'll do your job for you half the time anyway :^)
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    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro
    01:54 What is the object of the game?
    03:26 Example with only firing at OP
    07:40 Examples when firing at self
    14:33 How does Dealer AI affect our odds?
    19:19 When should you shoot yourself?
    31:39 Considerations
    38:14 Conclusions/Outro
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Комментарии • 933

  • @thematt6705
    @thematt6705 3 месяца назад +4816

    My wife came in to see me watching a PowerPoint presentation with a slide titled "When to consider shooting yourself." 10/10 will watch with boss around next time.

  • @giga-ratsey1420
    @giga-ratsey1420 3 месяца назад +3694

    Don’t shoot yourself in general tbh

    • @noobartz0890
      @noobartz0890 3 месяца назад +109

      i wonder why
      need to test that

    • @icycloud6823
      @icycloud6823 3 месяца назад +116

      brb, going to go test this theory

    • @Tathanic
      @Tathanic 3 месяца назад +47

      Mmm it hurts and can be expensive.

    • @noobartz0890
      @noobartz0890 3 месяца назад +20

      @@Tathanic or is it

    • @goonerbear8659
      @goonerbear8659 3 месяца назад +45

      Lemme go buy an expensive blood transfusion and defibrillator setup to try this out, just like in the obscure video game Buckshot Roulette

  • @lanxcapo7496
    @lanxcapo7496 3 месяца назад +2305

    thanks for the 40 min explanation on why shooting myself with a shotgun is a bad idea

    • @ashelyfrankow149
      @ashelyfrankow149 3 месяца назад +36

      It’s a shocker!

    • @Happy_capy.
      @Happy_capy. 3 месяца назад +48

      Don't do it. I did it last night and almost died

    • @ethanlivemere1162
      @ethanlivemere1162 3 месяца назад +21

      ​@@Happy_capy. Almost? You must've done something wrong then

    • @thunderspark1536
      @thunderspark1536 3 месяца назад +32

      ​@@ethanlivemere1162Random bullet spread caused most shots to miss him.

    • @ethanlivemere1162
      @ethanlivemere1162 3 месяца назад +21

      @@thunderspark1536 Should've used the Panic Attack. It fires in a fixed pattern and the decreased accuracy on subsequent shots shouldn't matter (one shot should be enough)

  • @SpecsWitched
    @SpecsWitched 3 месяца назад +3002

    The issue is people think of each shot as an isolated gamble instead of a consecutive series of gambles that affects one another

    • @3meritetrinel50
      @3meritetrinel50 3 месяца назад +163

      just like flipping a coin, the chance is always 50/50 but you're not going to get a coin to land on heads 10 times in a row.

    • @extraaaas
      @extraaaas 3 месяца назад +106

      ​@@3meritetrinel50 well THEORETICALLY... its possible

    • @rainydeestar
      @rainydeestar 3 месяца назад +631

      @@3meritetrinel50 No, because flipping a coin is indeed an isolated gamble that does not affect the following one

    • @Disatiere
      @Disatiere 3 месяца назад +74

      @@rainydeestarthe likelihood of flip PATTERNS is not however

    • @sun3k
      @sun3k 3 месяца назад +229

      @@Disatierethats just gamblers fallacy tho? The chance of hitting 10 heads in the row is the same as 10 tails, or 3 tails then 7 heads, or any other combination

  • @thermophile1695
    @thermophile1695 3 месяца назад +4265

    I routinely find myself amazed at how poor the innate human understanding of statistics is.

    • @jedibob12345
      @jedibob12345 3 месяца назад +1317

      I couldn’t agree more but it’s a known fact that 99% of gamblers quit before they hit big so I’m shooting myself every time brother

    • @Mike-official
      @Mike-official 3 месяца назад +376

      @@jedibob12345 you have to eventually win statistically, stay strong brother

    • @user-cq8mb9os9o
      @user-cq8mb9os9o 3 месяца назад +35

      @@Mike-official But was it going to be worth it?

    • @TheRabbitPoet
      @TheRabbitPoet 3 месяца назад +85

      ok, but to be fair; which it more likely, that humans are innately bad at understand statistics or that humans are innately bad at understand statistics and the way we describe statistic problems is also pretty vague?

    • @thermophile1695
      @thermophile1695 3 месяца назад +142

      @@TheRabbitPoet
      Statistics are extremely simple. You split an event into a number of equally likely possibilities, and then branch out for each subsequent event. Occasionally it's more complicated, but that's it 90% of the time.
      Humans just like patterns. Randomness doesn't mesh with our brains because we want to think things are happening for a reason. when Jack played, the first half dozen rounds mostly had the first bullet as a blank, and his brain took this as fact most of the way through the video.

  • @kirbyis4ever
    @kirbyis4ever 3 месяца назад +1010

    I've lived to see someone argue that shooting yourself in the face with a shotgun is "generally a bad idea"

    • @neologicalgamer3437
      @neologicalgamer3437 3 месяца назад +29

      I barely understood the video; shit went over my head. Gotta be honest though, this really helped me understand the argument

    • @janefkrbtt
      @janefkrbtt 2 месяца назад +5

      even statistically irl it's never a guarantee it gets the job done

  • @aboveaveragegaming5503
    @aboveaveragegaming5503 3 месяца назад +2341

    this video has told me we need a multiplayer update for competitive buckshot roulette players like yourself

    • @CheezeDerp
      @CheezeDerp 3 месяца назад +42

      What an amazing idea

    • @bizw
      @bizw 3 месяца назад +74

      Its on roblox

    • @TheRabbitPoet
      @TheRabbitPoet 3 месяца назад +122

      My brother and I designed a way to play buckshot roulette with poker cards. This was before endless mode came out tho, so it could use some reworking

    • @Freezorgium
      @Freezorgium 3 месяца назад +18

      someone made a vrchat world like that

    • @djkori5521
      @djkori5521 3 месяца назад +43

      PvP would actually change this game so much I wonder how it would look at "top level"

  • @user-ws7kp1yh9l
    @user-ws7kp1yh9l 3 месяца назад +681

    Imagine that, instead of allowing the player to shoot themselves, the game gives the player another ability: On each turn they can choose to hand the gun to the dealer without firing, and the dealer must shoot at the player once receiving the gun. If the dealer fires a live round, he can shoot again, skipping the player’s turn.
    This hypothetical ability is functionally equivalent to shooting oneself, but I am willing to bet that no one would even consider to use such an ability without knowing what type of shell is coming next.

    • @bakh554321
      @bakh554321 3 месяца назад +158

      Funny how the presentation is more important to us than the actual logic behind it.

    • @VinTJ
      @VinTJ 3 месяца назад +32

      holy shit you're right. damn. I should've realized

    • @GiovannaMMIV
      @GiovannaMMIV 3 месяца назад +4

      I don't mean to argue and I've yet to watch the video cuz I'm trying to understand myself, but I'm curious why would forcing the dealer to take worse odds at landing a shot be bad? Wouldn't a miss, which is more likely, just make his odds at landing a bullet better?

    • @GiovannaMMIV
      @GiovannaMMIV 3 месяца назад +2

      Sorry, I haven't watched the video 😅 I am just too deep in thought to focus on his voice, im sure he explains it all 😽

    • @GiovannaMMIV
      @GiovannaMMIV 3 месяца назад +7

      Well it seems my issue was I am mostly unfamiliar with the game rip. I had an assumption that the amount of shots would be equal between both players (being 6) and now I am just an idiot

  • @theorangeoof926
    @theorangeoof926 3 месяца назад +289

    As Markiplier said once: "I'm not going to go out pointin' that at myself. If I die, it'll be because I pointed it at him." This is the logic behind shooting the Dealer almost all the time (ignoring known blanks).

  • @rhobidderskag1121
    @rhobidderskag1121 2 месяца назад +175

    The dealer is playing optimally. He shoots himself to convince you that shooting yourself is a good idea.
    If he convinces you of that, your odds of winning will drop far more than the 5% he sacrifices to convince you in the first place.

    • @gekigami1791
      @gekigami1791 Месяц назад +13

      Biggest brain play

    • @skell6134
      @skell6134 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@gekigami1791Yet he keeps getting advantages BECAUSE he shoots himself and most of time gets blanks

  • @Strawberry_Elise
    @Strawberry_Elise 3 месяца назад +134

    Statistically optimal play takes away the thrill of potentially shooting yourself in the face

    • @Phychologik
      @Phychologik 2 месяца назад +2

      Found Midari Ikishima

  • @cyancookie1937
    @cyancookie1937 3 месяца назад +456

    the way I like to simplify it is that unless one of you has beer, every shot in the loadout has to be fired at *someone*. The more of those are fired at you, regardless of who's firing it, the more likely you take damage.

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real 3 месяца назад +5

      So always use beer and cigarettes?

    • @lukeskylicker
      @lukeskylicker 3 месяца назад +54

      @@airplanes_aren.t_real Yes, beer and cigarettes will help you live longer.
      Actually though, beer is phenomenal because it can let you take some of these scenarios and reduce or eliminate the chance for you to take damage. You generally want to save beer, unlike cigarettes which you should almost always smoke immediately to get them out of your loadout (as long as you're not wasting them of course).
      Take a dead simple "one live one blank" scenario, you and dealer both have two charges, but the dealer has a hacksaw. If you shoot the dealer, there is a 50% chance of doing one hit to dealer, and a 50% chance of it being blank and then dying to dealer since he will always know what the last shell is when it is reached. This is less than optimal, so the better choice is to shoot yourself. The odds change to a 50% chance to take one hit, but still live, and a 50% chance to get a blank, and then do one hit to the dealer. This scenario is covered in the video, and obviously taking a 100% chance to live is better than a 50% chance to die, even if shooting yourself is less than ideal.
      Beer is so strong because *it let's you "shoot yourself" but every shell is treated as a blank* so if we go back to the "one live one blank" scenario, we still see that shooting ourselves is optimal, but taking damage from it is not. Instead what we do is drink one beer and cycle the shell out. There is a 50% chance it's a blank and we then hit the dealer for one, and a 50% chance the shell is live. If we didn't have beer, we would have shot ourselves and taken one hit. So although beer doesn't change our best scenario (hitting the dealer for one) it has improved our worst scenario (taking one hit).
      The rules for using beer is virtually identical to shooting yourself (there can only be one live, if you're preventing lethal, if you want to get to the next round, etc.) but there is one stipulation: You should only use beer if the number of beers you have is equivalent or to the number of blanks still in play, otherwise you should shoot yourself.

    • @laytonjr6601
      @laytonjr6601 2 месяца назад +7

      @@airplanes_aren.t_real With no items, it's always better to have an odd number of shells when you're shooting. So, use a beer when it's an even number.
      If it's odd and you have two beers, using them both is useful if you don't mind ejecting all the shells and getting more items to garantee a kill on the next round (don't do this if you're possibly at kill range (1 or 2 life) and the dealer has 3 or more)

  • @NotAGoodUsername360
    @NotAGoodUsername360 3 месяца назад +862

    Pointing to yourself should earn you extra money/score so that there's incentive to take risks, no matter how superficial.

    • @iamdoom9810
      @iamdoom9810 3 месяца назад +126

      Maybe you can also work towards getting an extra item for a round if you pull it off enough times to better your own turn economy. Also, perhaps you have a streak for how many times you've successfully pointed the gun at yourself without taking damage, which rewards more bonus money the longer the streak is.

    • @ghostwalkergames7707
      @ghostwalkergames7707 3 месяца назад +1

      @@iamdoom9810or more points at the end of the

    • @iamdoom9810
      @iamdoom9810 3 месяца назад +13

      @@ghostwalkergames7707 But money is your points in this game

    • @Xuda
      @Xuda 3 месяца назад +8

      In a VR Russian roulette game on steam you can't shoot anyone else without using coins you earn by shooting yourself with blanks.

  • @GreenFanBoy
    @GreenFanBoy 3 месяца назад +892

    i love eating live rounds though

  • @gekigami1791
    @gekigami1791 3 месяца назад +974

    I wish I was making this up, but I couldn't even if I tried.
    I live in student family housing with my college, and I was watching this video on my TV. Apparently, someone had peeked through my blinds at the EXACT MOMENT the text "When you should shoot yourself" was on screen. They promptly called campus Public Safety, and I got a knock on my door 20 minutes later from a public safety officer checking if everyone was alright. I then had to explain that, no, I was not planning on shooting myself; I was watching a video discussing strategy in a video game where you play Russian Roulette with a shotgun.

    • @Epok_Gamurr_5975
      @Epok_Gamurr_5975 3 месяца назад +282

      Quite whimsical and silly situation. 7/10 on the silly scale.

    • @Illdos
      @Illdos 3 месяца назад +280

      Unfortunate for you, but it is good to know that your campus takes their student's well-being seriously.

    • @kokopossum
      @kokopossum 3 месяца назад +42

      And then everyone clapped, right?

    • @gekigami1791
      @gekigami1791 3 месяца назад +113

      @@Illdos that's def the biggest solace i got from this situation lol

    • @kuhascoat3417
      @kuhascoat3417 3 месяца назад +112

      @@kokopossumO’ ye of little faith in the honesty of strangers…

  • @fuzzygenius
    @fuzzygenius 3 месяца назад +1110

    As a stats professor, I love this video! Excellent analysis. If the game didn't involve shooting yourself/the dealer, I'd assign an analysis of Buckshot to my classes. Fun game though!

    • @delightfulkissboy8926
      @delightfulkissboy8926  3 месяца назад +387

      Yeah, a shame about the subject matter issue, but always nice when you can tie lessons to a fun game :^) Thank you!

    • @Codeheart
      @Codeheart 3 месяца назад +134

      A shame, but you can always make it into something different to analyze for class, like a card game or something, something still interactive but not about shooting others or yourself

    • @genericfurrygaming374
      @genericfurrygaming374 3 месяца назад +103

      could always try censoring the idea to a deck of 5 cards where one is a point and you choose to either give the card to your opponent or keep it for yourself before looking at it

    • @PatriPastry
      @PatriPastry 3 месяца назад +103

      @@genericfurrygaming374 the game could be giving or taking cards!
      Black cards don’t give points, red cards give points, it’s like golf so too many points is losing…
      If you take a black card you’re free to take or give another card from the deck, if you take a red card or give any card to the opponent the opponent goes next.
      handcuffs and magnifying glass can stay the same (or to continue the obfuscation, magnifying could be “peeking” and handcuffs could be “tying”), hacksaws are just “doublers,” cigarettes are “subtractors” (no negatives values allowed in points though)!
      It’s always possible to obfuscate stuff like this. Although good luck if someone knows the game and connects the dots haha

    • @asianboywonder2312
      @asianboywonder2312 3 месяца назад +12

      You can adjust the context to being a red card/blue card where pulling a red card removes health, putting a sticker on the card is like a handsaw, eating skittles is like smokes, and you can get a peek token or force skip turn token.

  • @LtheOriginal
    @LtheOriginal 3 месяца назад +403

    "Cause shotgun bullets are bad for your health." - Ice Cube

    • @pirat5234
      @pirat5234 2 месяца назад

      What song?

    • @LtheOriginal
      @LtheOriginal 2 месяца назад

      @@pirat5234 Check Yo Self

    • @denzelmartin6201
      @denzelmartin6201 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@pirat5234 check yourself before you wreck yourself

  • @apia46
    @apia46 3 месяца назад +202

    you can think of aiming at yourself as giving the dealer another turn where he can only aim at you, and if he hits a live you dont even get a turn
    its funny how the intuition changes when you rephrase it

    • @Aaa-vp6ug
      @Aaa-vp6ug 3 месяца назад +3

      Mine stayed the same, mostly because last I checked, Shooting your chin does DAMAGE

  • @tyler.richards1
    @tyler.richards1 3 месяца назад +156

    So what you are saying is "The more the gun is pointed at you, the more likely you are to be shot." Makes sense to me lol, great video!

  • @skyshredder228
    @skyshredder228 3 месяца назад +414

    Welcome buck to backshot roulette class with professor Kissboy.

    • @vasianduban9995
      @vasianduban9995 3 месяца назад

      wait, ain't you that dude who bully adhd furry femboy minecraft streamer with youtube donos? TdLmc or what the name of that dude

    • @charlesleonitol.iringaniv8320
      @charlesleonitol.iringaniv8320 3 месяца назад +18

      This somehow reminds me of Professor Lando

  • @bluemars5305
    @bluemars5305 3 месяца назад +210

    I didn't realize I signed up for statistical analysis class

    • @MercuryA2000
      @MercuryA2000 3 месяца назад +6

      That's why I'm here. I don't even know this game!

    • @aiocafea
      @aiocafea 3 месяца назад +2

      same, i tapped on the video, went out, quickly watched a video to get the rules and context, then came back
      don't know if i'll ever play it but i'm here for the maths

    • @fractalgem
      @fractalgem 3 месяца назад +1

      I saw the length and reckoned it had to be either very clicj bait or very in depth probability analysis

  • @wesleyparnell9665
    @wesleyparnell9665 3 месяца назад +77

    The Monty Hall problem and this game are a perfect example of how hard it is for most to understand how dependent events affect probability.

    • @NbNgMOD
      @NbNgMOD 2 месяца назад +1

      The monty hall problem was pretty interesting (didnt watch this dude explain a different one)

  • @TehFlashBang_
    @TehFlashBang_ 3 месяца назад +213

    From a purely “Presentation Oriented” perspective, this video is fantastic.
    The dark background with contrasting text color,
    The concise text that doesn’t overcrowd the slide,
    Images and examples when necessary focusing on Visual Elements with the speaker explaining each to give them context,
    Super job as always. Your videos are a treat, and they make me feel like I’m sitting in a meeting with a very charismatic presenter.

    • @TechnicolorMammoth
      @TechnicolorMammoth 3 месяца назад +12

      I was just thinking the same thing. This dude has had to give some presentations in his time, and nails it.

  • @Kalitayy
    @Kalitayy 3 месяца назад +66

    I think one of the reason why people immediately think of shooting themselves in this game is because when the game got introduced to them as “Russian Roulette”. Even when I tried this game, my first instinct is to shoot myself, then learning that you could shoot the Dealer made me think if I shoot him or myself as my first move. Even some of my friends did shoot themselves on their first playthrough and continue doing so, because some of think that the main idea of the game is to survive a game of Russian Roulette, instead of trying to defeat the Dealer.

    • @tino897
      @tino897 21 день назад

      Yeah the name Roulette makes us think we have to do it in the spirit of the game / we NEED to do it in order to play. It’s the conscience of how this works. Then after this video and the comments you realise that yes the point is to beat the game and it clearly says you don’t have to point the gun at yourself at all.

  • @GenDrag1
    @GenDrag1 3 месяца назад +66

    “Shooting yourself with a blank grants an item next round”
    That’s how to fix

  • @GiveMeYourFACE9089
    @GiveMeYourFACE9089 3 месяца назад +86

    This is unironically a great (if morbid) video to show in a statistics class.

  • @vinzo0913
    @vinzo0913 3 месяца назад +56

    The way I looked at it was, to paraphrase a famous quote, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take (at the dealer)

  • @richiesmith5214
    @richiesmith5214 3 месяца назад +67

    With the background music playing, it sounds like you’re in the bathroom explaining all of this to someone who’s about to play

    • @ghostwalkergames7707
      @ghostwalkergames7707 3 месяца назад +20

      The doctor that revives you when you first go down

    • @candy-ass4915
      @candy-ass4915 3 месяца назад +4

      ​@@ghostwalkergames7707If some update confirmed that dude was Delightful Kiss Boy in canon that would be crazy.

    • @ghostwalkergames7707
      @ghostwalkergames7707 3 месяца назад +2

      @@candy-ass4915 lol indeed

  • @NAM_137
    @NAM_137 3 месяца назад +137

    Your videos convinced me to buy the game. Beat the normal game first try, and then got to a million in endless after a good handful of tries.
    Also runs great on my Steam Deck, so that'll be nice for killing time here and there.

    • @manitoba-op4jx
      @manitoba-op4jx 3 месяца назад +13

      keep your power button clean. i've had to open mine and wash it with isopropyl a few times now

  • @Rokk_
    @Rokk_ 3 месяца назад +26

    The concept of items turns this on its head because you generally want to give the dealer a turn as late as possible, so aiming at yourself can be better. Sometimes this even manifests into "you should drink the beer cans until the last 2 shells". It's not just limited to specific scenarios like the dealer having a handsaw but him being down 1 HP on you.

  • @ribbon8546
    @ribbon8546 3 месяца назад +52

    If a hardened badass sits on one side of the table and Steve Urkel sits on the other, always bet on Urkel.

  • @ieatgarbage8771
    @ieatgarbage8771 3 месяца назад +65

    17:43
    Treat the dealer as always firing the last round at you. This is not how he actually works, but this version of his behavior does not affect any outcomes, as shooting himself with a round he knows is blank has the same effect as shooting you with a round he knows is blank.
    There's a 25% chance for the dealer to shoot you then shoot you again. This lets him shoot you twice, giving you odds of 60%.
    There's a 25% chance for the dealer to shoot you then shoot himself. This lets him shoot you twice, giving you odds of 60%.
    There's a 25% chance for the dealer to shoot himself then shoot you. This lets him shoot you twice, giving you odds of 60%.
    There's a 12.5% chance for the dealer to shoot himself then himself then you. This lets him shoot you once, giving you odds of 80%.
    There's a 12.5% chance for the dealer to shoot himself then himself then himself. This lets him shoot you once, giving you odds of 80%.
    25%*60% + 25%*60% + 25%*60% + 12.5%*80% + 12.5%*80% = 65%.

    • @delightfulkissboy8926
      @delightfulkissboy8926  3 месяца назад +35

      Yup, you got it! I did the calculations a bit differently, but I think your way of framing it works and makes sense too 👌

  • @tobiasnicholls9837
    @tobiasnicholls9837 3 месяца назад +16

    statistics can be unintuitive if you dont know them, but i find it funny how dont shoot yourself in the face is something that takes a whole debunking

  • @toddhoward1498
    @toddhoward1498 2 месяца назад +13

    The year is 2024, I'm turning 21 this year, it's 4am and I am sat here on my cracked iPhone 8 watching a man who sounds like Dagoth Ur explain when exactly you should decide to shoot yourself in a video game.

  • @username5155
    @username5155 3 месяца назад +15

    Imagine playing normal Russian Roulette with the twist being you can also choose to shoot your opponent instead of yourself while your opponent picks between you and themself randomly and there’s just a crowd of people going “No, shoot yourself! You’re ruining the game by playing it wrong!”, because that’s basically just Buckshot Roulette sans items

    • @mercury5003
      @mercury5003 Месяц назад +1

      It just occured to me that theres a non zero chance that some idiots out there who actually would play real life russian roulette might have adopted this games ruleset of being able to shoot your opponent.

  • @supersonicgamerguru
    @supersonicgamerguru 3 месяца назад +74

    Shooting yourself is not very good for getting more damage on the dealer, sure, but it is a very important tool if you identify a round as one that you need more to survive than to win. I noticed and commented on a couple of these scenarios on your juiced dealer ai video.
    In general, if there is enough saws+bullets such that it's very likely the round will end the game, you need to focus on different goals like delaying damage you take or, in the worst case, taking a single point of damage instead of a guaranteed 2 points, etc.
    I did since analysis of the most dangerous rounds where you lost a run to a misplay, namely not changing to a survival strategy when you had more than enough information to see that it was necessary, and the results can be surprising.

    • @delightfulkissboy8926
      @delightfulkissboy8926  3 месяца назад +48

      Yup, included a section with a few of these scenarios, I def have overlooked a few of these in my own gameplay 👌 But I am improving!

  • @edfreak9001
    @edfreak9001 3 месяца назад +26

    tbh besides it just being an interesting breakdown of probability and game mechanics I kinda love dissecting the hell out of what's supposed to be a dark, haunting experience about someone willing to throw their lives away so frivolously for some cash, to the point where there's slightly more than zero percent chance of losing.

  • @Chuck-ri6ch
    @Chuck-ri6ch 3 месяца назад +14

    I guess a better way to put it is you're giving yourself better odds, yes, but you're also giving the dealer better odds, so you're gaining no advantage over your opponent and just risking shooting yourself.
    Mabye that could be mitigated if you both had seperate guns that were just loaded with the same configuration, rather than sharing a gun.

  • @Riinkz
    @Riinkz 3 месяца назад +9

    When clicking this video, I did not know that Buckshot Roulette is a game. I thought it was some bizarre variant of Russian Roulette. I was really interested xD

  • @noobartz0890
    @noobartz0890 3 месяца назад +38

    it's so interesting how even if each move on it's own is perfectly justified, the whole game might not make sense at all
    it has so much implications in other places and even irl too...

  • @TechnicolorMammoth
    @TechnicolorMammoth 3 месяца назад +12

    I love this bit of stats, and you having that beautiful beat going on in the bg. Feels like you're coaching us in the restroom before we have to go and take on the Dealer.

  • @lyrichord8484
    @lyrichord8484 3 месяца назад +11

    This video made me realize that sometimes using the magnifying glass doesn't even give an advantage and that the beer is more powerful than I thought. Of course it all depends on the items and how many lives vs blanks are there but in your case of 1 live and 4 blanks you are already shooting on the odd numbers which gives you an advantage, knowing the next shot is a blank and shooting yourself doesn't really make it better since now there is a 50/50 chance for both to shoot the opponent if you are constantly shooting each other, which was already the case but in the dealer's turn instead of yours. But with the ai it is always beneficial since between you shooting and the dealer shooting themselves you get more chances of dealing damage.

    • @James2210
      @James2210 3 месяца назад +2

      It works if we think of every shot as dealing damage equal to its probability too. You wouldn't shoot yourself for .2 damage and then shoot the dealer for .2 damage, you'd just shoot the dealer for .2

  • @probably_averae
    @probably_averae 3 месяца назад +22

    Wowie, 40+ mins of buckshot information. What a treat from the kissboy!

  • @Duck1en
    @Duck1en 3 месяца назад +6

    Statistics is a lie, its always 50/50!
    Either it happens or it doesn't
    Yes you heard it right, you either win 35 blackjack games and become a billionaire or you don't

  • @ieatgarbage8771
    @ieatgarbage8771 3 месяца назад +35

    Can you make a video explaining why I shouldn't shoot myself irl?

    • @avgredditmod
      @avgredditmod 3 месяца назад +21

      reason 1: mom would be sad
      reason 2:

    • @Epok_Gamurr_5975
      @Epok_Gamurr_5975 3 месяца назад +22

      Reason 2: it’d be AWFULLY cringe

    • @chrismcwell5457
      @chrismcwell5457 3 месяца назад +11

      did you consider that you might die? trustworthy sources have told me that dying could quite possibly show signs of being “cringe” and “nerdlike” due to this, you may not want to shoot yourself.

    • @Epok_Gamurr_5975
      @Epok_Gamurr_5975 3 месяца назад

      @@chrismcwell5457 That’s what I’m saying!!!

    • @avgredditmod
      @avgredditmod 3 месяца назад +4

      @@chrismcwell5457 that's a nice argument senator, why dont you back it up with a source?

  • @anthonyruggiero1988
    @anthonyruggiero1988 2 месяца назад +8

    This is funnier if you close your eyes and imagine Joe from Family Guy is teaching you something he researched on Wikipedia the other day

    • @mercury5003
      @mercury5003 Месяц назад

      God im not the only one who thought he sounded like patrick warburton

  • @bartudundar3193
    @bartudundar3193 3 месяца назад +5

    This whole video can be summed up as "Losing your turn to the dealer who has to make a choice isn't as big of a risk as literally blowing your brains out over the wall".

  • @SpiderPig42
    @SpiderPig42 3 месяца назад +6

    Saw this video, then played Exploding Kittens for the first time. Used this strategy to mop the floor with my opponents. Ty for teaching us proper statistics

  • @ZEUSOFLIFTS
    @ZEUSOFLIFTS 3 месяца назад +68

    19:20 Kurt Cobain homeschooling his kids be like:

  • @PokeThatMoki
    @PokeThatMoki 3 месяца назад +11

    What a positive message from The Kisser himself. You will love yourself NOW!

  • @Fungalbiomass
    @Fungalbiomass 3 месяца назад +14

    The quiet music in the background makes me feel like I’m in a trance
    A delightful kisstrance

  • @joev3783
    @joev3783 3 месяца назад +15

    I think this video was very well made, but I think it could be a little easier to explain.
    If you imagined all the previous bullets, it really emphasizes the importance of shooting. If there are 2 rounds left, it's not actually a 50/50, but rather an 80/20.
    The reason why shooting yourself is always bad is because if there is an even number of bullets, both players are equally likely to get the live round. So in that circumstance, it is better to always shoot. If there is an odd number of rounds, you get a one round advantage.
    With that one round advantage, you have 2 options. Target yourself to get an 80% chance of equally likely odds as the opponent, with a 20% chance of failure with the extra round, OR target the opponent with a 20% chance of success, and an 80% chance of equally likely odds.
    In other words, there is not a single instance where targeting yourself is worthwhile, unless items are involved.

    • @tillburr6799
      @tillburr6799 2 месяца назад

      Nah his explanation does it better

  • @zenokwon1177
    @zenokwon1177 3 месяца назад

    this is so simple and concise yet so intriguing and interesting! hats off to you

  • @bobbigford6290
    @bobbigford6290 3 месяца назад +5

    I’m so glad I found you this is golden buckshot content

  • @vaultence9859
    @vaultence9859 3 месяца назад +22

    no way is that a new litty litty fuego slide deck

  • @Floydknight
    @Floydknight 3 месяца назад +4

    the dealer made one fatal mistake: he signed a contract with a stats nerd

  • @uncannyresemblence8918
    @uncannyresemblence8918 3 месяца назад

    Watching this videos reminded me a lot of my discrete class and trying to figure out if I can prove any of the percentages you displayed via induction! Thanks for amazing watch

  • @qcharlieeee
    @qcharlieeee 3 месяца назад +2

    I've been anticipating this one 🔥🔥
    Another fire video by unpleasant smoochman

  • @Mr_questionman
    @Mr_questionman 2 месяца назад +5

    Worst video for parents to walk in the room without having context

  • @calook1334
    @calook1334 3 месяца назад +4

    Love your backshot roulette videos, keep it up

    • @calook1334
      @calook1334 3 месяца назад +8

      minor spelling error

    • @arcadeii
      @arcadeii 3 месяца назад

      im crying

  • @Steltunes
    @Steltunes Месяц назад +1

    This reminds me a lot of the Monty hall problem. Its common for people to disregard previous statistics when a new variable is added and just focus on the "new" statistics. I think this is why people get so focused on the "incorrect" objective of the game.
    Excellent video, i dont play this game but your explaination of statistics are great!

  • @gahthegamer2224
    @gahthegamer2224 3 месяца назад +2

    i watch you for 1 second and i feel myself getting 10x better at this game.

  • @blank6989
    @blank6989 3 месяца назад +4

    This is feels like a presentation you would watch in school

  • @DoomRater
    @DoomRater 3 месяца назад +6

    I'm almost DREADING the eventual YTP that will come from your videos

  • @Justacasualuser-zg9ez
    @Justacasualuser-zg9ez 3 месяца назад +1

    Very informative indeed and will change the way I look at this game,thanks !

  • @kittenbouquet
    @kittenbouquet 2 месяца назад

    This is so interesting. I'm a mathematician but I only considered taking the basic probability into account, not all probability scenarios at once. Very compelling

  • @danielkings2443
    @danielkings2443 2 месяца назад +3

    “In this game” is pretty important context I did not have coming into this

  • @DevDoge_
    @DevDoge_ 3 месяца назад +17

    I can't believe you made a 40 minute presentation to prove the haters wrong :D Good work

  • @juicyboxesxo
    @juicyboxesxo 3 месяца назад

    idk anything about this game and haven't seen any gameplay but your voice is amazing and i need to hear more of it

  • @epilepson8382
    @epilepson8382 3 месяца назад

    Good to see another great video from you!

  • @Vaaaaadim
    @Vaaaaadim 3 месяца назад +4

    The analysis seems correct, but I think the most thorough analysis would come from game-tree search / minimax. The state space seems small enough (I'm guessing) that you can brute force it and definitively determine when it makes sense to shoot yourself.

  • @mrhalfsaid1389
    @mrhalfsaid1389 3 месяца назад +3

    The sheer lack of understanding when it comes to how gambling works is probably why gambling is so profitable

  • @cultistaautista
    @cultistaautista 3 месяца назад +2

    The dedication of the game’s community with in-depth probability theory research is phenomenal

  • @RustyLesh
    @RustyLesh 3 месяца назад

    Amazing presentation mate. Probability is an interesting topic.

  • @Romanticoutlaw
    @Romanticoutlaw 3 месяца назад +15

    fun statistics fact: when asked to pick between three closed doors, and then have a non-winning door opened, and asked to choose whether to stay with your choice or change it, your odds of getting the winning door actually are different from when you first chose even if you keep the same door. Information changes odds. I think this is something people struggle to intuit when it comes to bsr

    • @PineappleDealer37
      @PineappleDealer37 3 месяца назад +1

      Well- in a way it does, yes. If you pick a non-winning door and get yourself a winning door presented there's a 0% chance you will win now

    • @TunaIRL
      @TunaIRL 3 месяца назад +4

      It's really simple to intuit. Your odds of picking a non winning door is higher because there are more of them. You will most often pick a non winning door, therefore when the other non winning door IS opened, you will know that most of the time, the last unopened door will be the winning one.

    • @ace-smith
      @ace-smith 3 месяца назад +3

      this becomes super understandable if you imagine you pick out of 100 doors, and then 98 of them get opened. now what do you think, the door you happened to pick is the right one, or the only other one that the host didn't open?

    • @ThePenguinMan
      @ThePenguinMan 3 месяца назад

      monty hall

  • @andytheaardvark1
    @andytheaardvark1 3 месяца назад +3

    so, if i understand this right, there's basically a set number of shots to be made each round and you want as few of those to be targeted at you. makes sense

  • @Dickfuck3169
    @Dickfuck3169 3 месяца назад +151

    I can't believe Delightful Kissboy said ''it's kissin time'' and kissed all over the place. One of the moments of all time.

    • @vaultence9859
      @vaultence9859 3 месяца назад +10

      I mean look at the dealer how could he possibly resist.
      Evidently this video is just dealer propaganda to make sure we never mess up their face.

    • @kanaria449
      @kanaria449 3 месяца назад +2

      How delightful!

    • @1_Enzou
      @1_Enzou 3 месяца назад +2

      Is this humor even still relevant

    • @Dickfuck3169
      @Dickfuck3169 3 месяца назад

      @@1_Enzou lemme have fun on this abyssmal abomination called "social media", will you?

    • @vaultence9859
      @vaultence9859 3 месяца назад +5

      @@1_Enzou it will never not be ironically funny

  • @half55-qo1tq
    @half55-qo1tq 3 месяца назад +1

    24:15 it's important to factor in turns. If you keep saw yo could give first turn of next loadout to dealer because he shoots himself with a blank. If you give up a saw you could go first in the next loadout because he shoots you with alive round

  • @TheVipershark
    @TheVipershark 3 месяца назад

    A very thought out and well explained video. I'm sure everyone will totally get it and not be stuck in their ways again. (I'm not talking about Buckshot Roulette)

  • @dbfr2017
    @dbfr2017 3 месяца назад +5

    You sound like Patrick Warburton delivering a Khan Academy lecture.

  • @thermophile1695
    @thermophile1695 3 месяца назад +16

    2 Live scenario:
    2 lives, two duds. You have four life and Dealer has two saws and cufs. You should selfhit because taking 1 down to 3 is better than getting doublehit, and depriving Dealer of 1 out of 2 live hits is beneficial.
    Haven't done the math, but is self hitting beneficial here?
    Phrasing courtesy of youtube's filter.

    • @delightfulkissboy8926
      @delightfulkissboy8926  3 месяца назад +17

      Good point! Didn't think about that scenario. Yes, you may want to aim at yourself there to eliminate the possibility of dying on dealer's turn. However, I would probably only consider this if I have a good shot of killing on my next turn, otherwise you have a good chance of ending up in the same scenario in the next loadout and you're going to be at less health

  • @tizraVT
    @tizraVT 3 месяца назад +1

    another poggers video from the one and only delightful kissboy, i only understood like half of what was going on but thats just a me problem

  • @perfectiondreamusa
    @perfectiondreamusa 3 месяца назад

    this reminds me a lot of the 3 doors paradox and the explanation helps a lot in understanding that

  • @thermophile1695
    @thermophile1695 3 месяца назад +4

    RUclips's shadow filter is fun to work with when talking about this stuff!

    • @delightfulkissboy8926
      @delightfulkissboy8926  3 месяца назад +4

      Yeah, annoying to deal with, it gets my own comments on my own vids sometimes lol

  • @nicolaspeigne1429
    @nicolaspeigne1429 2 месяца назад +3

    If only Kurt Cobain watched this video

  • @luk4aaaa
    @luk4aaaa 3 месяца назад

    I love getting a statistics lecture from a funny youtuber, I’ve genuinely considered taking stats in uni again as a full bachelor (I had a semester of it because of programming) because I just find it that interesting. Hope you get the 1 billi jackbot bby glhf

  • @pacolibre5411
    @pacolibre5411 3 месяца назад

    I did not know this. Thank you for the explanation!

  • @EmberOldAccount
    @EmberOldAccount 3 месяца назад +4

    So turns out Merg's strategy in his second video was optimimal. Wasn't just luck.

  • @jdflasky1969
    @jdflasky1969 3 месяца назад +10

    Counter-conventional statistical probabilities, mixed with the question of whether or not one should shoot oneself in the face? Truly this is the Monty Hall problem for the modern millennial

  • @filipmode125
    @filipmode125 2 месяца назад +1

    Unbelievable. I’ve barely seen any gameplay of this game and I only just heard about it from this channel being in my recommended. But I keep watching these vailed Comp Sci lessons. Good job I guess?

  • @FOEShadow
    @FOEShadow 3 месяца назад

    Your vids honestly are the only reason im good at buckshot roulette

  • @realdaggerman105
    @realdaggerman105 3 месяца назад +10

    Breaking news: Suicide rates drop to 0 after RUclipsr explains why you statistically shouldn’t shoot yourself.
    In other news: gun homicides have raised significantly in the same timeframe

  • @EmperorZ19
    @EmperorZ19 3 месяца назад +4

    Quickest way it clicked for me was realizing that, items aside, the best case scenario for shooting yourself when there are more blanks is that you're just going to keep doing it until you get down to there being an equal numbers of blanks and lives and it becomes a 50/50. So you took a series of risks just to get down to a 50/50 chance, which is obviously bad

  • @LiarJudas666
    @LiarJudas666 Месяц назад

    oh this is why i recognized your channel name! i assume i got this recommended because i watched exactly one video of this game and youtube’s algorithm isn’t great, but this was a good suggestion

  • @zeo4481
    @zeo4481 Месяц назад +1

    Easier explanation is : If you shoot the dealer 3/5 times you have 3 50/50 chance shots at him while he only has 2/5 50/50 chance shots at you(bar items).
    So you ALWAYS shoot(and make sure you are on an odd number of shots so you get more tries)
    Basically bar any unfortunate chain of events you will ALWAYS win that exchange given enough repletions(pray you aren't at 2 life and you miss 2/5 shots at him in a row whit no good items)

  • @deerlyqueery
    @deerlyqueery 3 месяца назад +5

    Ah yes, information that I will forget in the next 5 minutes and never learn from 😎
    But fr great stuff to know!

    • @deerlyqueery
      @deerlyqueery 3 месяца назад

      Only time I shoot myself has been on 1-2 rounds where the Dealer has a handsaw and threatening lethal or the same danger but a 1-1. Rather take 1 damage and make it to potentially better items than instantly die lol

  • @hjohnson966
    @hjohnson966 3 месяца назад +4

    My mom walked in at 31:39 😢

  • @rezaghassemi3044
    @rezaghassemi3044 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for this video, I had a feeling that shooting yourself is generally unfavourable and now i am certain of it because of your explanation.
    Now what i would like to see in a video is how using the beer can helps your odds and in which situations is most optimal to use! Can you make a video on that? That would be very interesting!

  • @augustonian3522
    @augustonian3522 3 месяца назад

    This is exactly what I commented on another video, glad someone put it out there lol, I took stats once and thought this through and came to this conclusion as well

  • @manthemenace
    @manthemenace 2 месяца назад +8

    its less fun this way