Gus Speaks About Letting Nacho Go | Bad Choice Road | Better Call Saul
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- Mike talks to Gus about letting Nacho go.
From Season 5, Episode 9 'Bad Choice Road' - In the wake of Jimmy's traumatic misadventure, Kim takes stock of what is important; Jimmy attempts to return to business as usual, but it's more difficult than anticipated; Gus and Mike set a plan in motion.
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Gus : "Draw it for me."
*Mike draws the symbol*
Gus :"Is this acceptable to you?"
You can go home Mike...
.....You are not up to Pollos Standards
Sounds like the bitch who used to teach me art....she was right in all fairness when I look back on it.
Mike: "That's where you are wrong. This... is not a drawing..."
(Mike slams his drawing on the floor)
@@JBranderand it explodes
Gus’s logic: he betrayed every boss who threatened him or his family. Let’s threaten his father
@Louis Tea Enjoyer Yeah how did the nursing home staff not question these visits?
@@roddydykes7053 my guess is that Gustavo fabricated a story that sounded convincing enough for him to visit an old drug lord. He's pretty good at making stories as he even fooled the DEA.
Yea I mean he probably just acted like he was a friend of the family, and as far as I know, Hector was never shown to be well known to the public, or have done prison time. That being said….nachos dad knew exactly who the Salamanca’s were…Im sure people know
@Louis Tea Enjoyer Finally people acknowledging the consistently poor story writing
@@roddydykes7053 maybe because he payed for hector’s treatment
Love how it transitions from finding out who nearly killed 2 major characters to Bolsa playing golf
Jimmy and mike?
@@mdtm7465 yes
Typical cartel leader. Command the most heinous of acts, and do absolutely nothing violent or malicious by yourself.
@Amir Khan it's all a game of chess. Gus knew from Bolsa's casual concern that he was responsible.
@juanjoyaborja.3054 Any crime boss/corporate leader in general. Delegate the dirty stuff, keep yourself clean and charming.
Anytime Mike says “now, I’m no expert…” you know you’re getting some good advice your way
Or "here's what's gonna happen"
This comes back to bite Gus later, Walter feared him so much that he was willing to blow up an elderly home just to get rid of him
I hate when people say he blew up am elderly home like he didn't know only the 3 people would die and that them 3 people were completely deserving
@Der Derwo but that woman was still not hurt we cam see the wall did not blow up
@@fionnleamy844 Sure, but he conspired to get a bomb to detonate in a nursing home that was originally meant to destroy a minivan. Nobody besides Gus, Tyrus, and Hector died from it, but that isn't entirely a guarantee on the outset.
@@MadelineSawyer but no one did get hurt did they leaving it reasonable to assume walt knew that from the offset
@Der Derwo but no one did get hurt did they leading it reasonable to assume walt knew that it was safe
This show is the best thing that happened to the bald community.
hahahahahah true
Bolsa is one of the few that is truly bald though, most of the characters just shave their head
@@ShonenFreakTV Mike?
@@ShonenFreakTV XD😂
@@Gaflgon Mike is bald but he keeps his hair really short, trying to give the illusion of being merely shaved; so he's a step under Bolsa who openly displays his baldness
I like that in breaking bad it's Gus who says to Mike "I don't believe fear to be an effective motivator" how the turn tables...
Hey Michael!
Maybe because his mistake with Nacho taught him that?
No, Gus said that to Walter.
@@Loterrach no he did not he said it to mike
@@GintaPPE1000 maybe because BCS was written after Breaking Bad
I totally forgot about this scene and how Gus literally just called Bolsa. I thought people just speculated that Bolsa hired the thugs.
Because Bolsa probably hired that gang in that past+ the only person who could have known about the Cousins handing off money to Lalo's lawyer to bail him out and would want to prevent that is Bolsa.
@Amir Khan The tattoo that Mike drew
I like how his face changes when call ends 😆
😇
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im writing this random comment that has nothing to do with ur comment or this clip, i want to say the reason ur dad left is because of ur mum's constant nagging and that obnoxious smile she does to provoke others damn is she annoying.
That's the INTJ personality for ya.
@@blackdynamite_5470 INTJ? as in International nation team justice?
He did that a lot in the show lol
4:07 the camera angles and lighting in this show is amazing. He looks so evil while he said that
Damn I missed it. Easily the scariest looking character in the BB universe, even more than lalo
@@gregh5061 Eye hoap yew deeden't mayke peapea een yore pance
Oar, mebbe yew mayde pewpew een yore dyeppur
@@gregh5061 both are master manipulators, difference is Lalo’s smile is genuine while Gus’s is a facade
@@redvice6210 that makes him scarier tbh
But Gus is right, you know
Did anyone else hear that Wii Sports gasp sound effect at 1:12 even though Bolsa was clearly playing a different golf game?
tbf thats just a stock gasp sound effect lol
I noticed too!!
Also note how BCS is supposed to play before BB, in the early 2000s.
@@LinusLinothorax2004 wasn't Wii time
lmaoooo that’s funny as heck
Gus's failing to adjust motivation tactics on Nacho almost brought him to the ground. He learned this lesson well enough to do it with Jesse. But again it just emphasizes how good Walt's mind game was
2:18 the way the smile vanishes ...
Everyone loves mike, and for good reason. Yet multiple times he knows what is the right thing to do, but proceeds to do the opposite because he is told to (Werner, Nacho, Jesse) by a sadistic, egocentric villain. He may be smart, but rarely takes any personal risk, which makes him kind of a coward.
Yeah, that was Mike's fatal flaw: his belief in keeping his "code," which justified that anyone "in the game" could be killed. However, his rigidity in thinking conflicted with his moral core.
Pretty much the only reason Mike does anything is to protect Kaylee and Stacey. He doesn't go against what he's told to do in situations like this because he's already had the head of the cartel prove that he's willing and capable of murdering the two most important people in his life. He has his own very strict set of rules he adheres to, but he lets Nacho, Werner and Jesse suffer unfair consequences because it comes to a point where he has choose whether to jeopardize them or his family. It's more selfishness than it is cowardice.
Anyone else thinks Bolsa figured out that yes, Gus did indeed kill Lalo, but never said or did anything about it because he was okay with it since Lalo was a troublemaker and a threat to Gus' operation and therefore his income.
Yes
I've always said that eladio and bolsa knew but to keep the peace and money flowing they didnt kill gus. Lalo was causing too much trouble
I just assumed he knew by how he acts in bcs
No, I don't think Bosla didn't figure it out. Neither did Eladio, but the latter did have his doubts. Some solid doubts. And he definitely knew there was bad blood between the two. He didn't find any evidence so he let Gus go.
I’m pretty sure everyone knew that lol. Or at least like it was heavily heavily heavily implied that these cartel bosses aren’t stupid, arrogant and selfish yeah but not stupid.
“Draw it for me”
*slides a pack of crayons over the table*
Mike's only weakness was lack of discretion. It bred trust with his employers but made him 100% predictable.
He was good enough to back it up.
But yeah, that's ultimately what led him to his ruin and made all those years be for nothing.
@@vondervent It probably would have been fine if he hasn't hired such a cowardly and incompetent lawyer who sold him out the very moment he got caught.
Bad Choice Road is in the top 5 best episodes in the series imo.
Sorry, only top 5?
Tell me again.
But yeah its a top 10 for me. Maybe in the top 5
Beyond merely strategic considerations Gus _does_ seem to habour a very real personal animosity toward Nacho that I don’t think can be entirely explained away by the latter’s attempt to kill Hector and thus (unknowingly), thwart Gus’ longterm revenge plan . . . It’s almost as if Gus doesn’t like Nacho’s ‘streetwise’ lower-level type.
the dog analogy kind of gives you that idea
maybe because Nacho almost took Hector away from Gus, therefore interfereing with Gus' biggest project
@@Lektuerekurs So? Gus was still able to save Hector and leave him a crippled shell which is probably a worse fate. With how Hector has been acting out that night, The cartel probably would have Hector killed for his blatant disrespect and Gus would not be able to do anything to stop it.
I think he resents Nacho being more responsible for Hector’s collapse. Gus wanted all the revenge
Gus died because of his own mistakes
Like chess
His one mistake really, not disposing of Hector when his vengeance was achieved. Without him Walter would have no way of besting him.
@@alexeiharp7676 I'd say his one and only mistake was underestimating Walter and what he is capable off.
Perhaps. Then again, even for very skilled players this game has a pretty bad outlook. Best position is to be a consultant like the Vet or Saul. None of the principals get away
Gus died because Max's bussy for too good to forget
“He disappears, Salamanca operation fall apart.” This might’ve been the nail in the coffin
im writing this random comment that has nothing to do with ur comment or this clip, i want to say the reason ur dad left is because of ur mum's constant nagging and that obnoxious smile she does to provoke others damn is she annoying.
How do you mean?
@@generalgrievous4254It means that by mentioning that, Mike may have just unknowingly caused Gus to double down on his decision to keep Nacho. If letting him go meant the Salamanca business would collapse, then as far as Gus knew at the time, keeping Nacho on a leash meant that he had Hector exactly where he wanted him, completely at his mercy for as long as he saw fit. Nacho was the key to everything in his eyes, and if the plan to kill Lalo had gone the way it was originally supposed to, then Gus may never have needed Walt and Jesse as much as he did later down the line (assuming Nacho survived that long)
Everyone in this scene winds up dead, which is quite poetic
everyone in every scene will be dead eventually
@@bassplayerbyrne that's deep, bro
im writing this random comment that has nothing to do with ur comment or this clip, i want to say the reason ur dad left is because of ur mum's constant nagging and that obnoxious smile she does to provoke others damn is she annoying.
Everyone on this comment section will die eventually
Edgyass comment
4:05
Ever hear the saying, "No bad dogs, only bad owners"?
I absolutely love how BCS establishes the history of Gus and Mike together. Gus essentially hires Mike and makes him 2nd in command because not only is Mike the absolute best of the best, he also keeps Gus grounded to reality which helps Gus not act on impulse and "live large" or as a cartel boss. He also reminds Gus that they're supposed to be better than those they're doing dirt with. (Papa Varga tried to say they're all the same but I disagree because Mike at least firmly held onto his humanity most of the time).
What is Mike's background? Like how is he so good at everything he does?
@@soudipchanda2884 He was a police officer.
If it wasnt for mike, nacho would have been a loose end. Had tyrus killed mike, the cartel would have skinned gus alive once they found the truth about his war against lalo.
@@soudipchanda2884 it's also hinted at that he might have been a Vietnam veteran or atleast a veteran
@@soudipchanda2884 Mike was a long time decorated cop in a VERY rough city (during the crack epidemic too). Mike was also a US Marine who served in Vietnam. He was also a criminal. I imagine the old timer put together quite a set of skills in the decades preceding BCS.
0:40 The way Mike holds pen 🥵
What is wrong with you ?
@@mrniceguy7167 I Think they need help.
homie that is the most normal way to hold a pen, how do you hold a pen??
@@totallynotlilly In India we hold pen differently
@@shubhy7 Een Indeeya, yew goe pewpew een dee streat, tew
Smhell badde, ent lewk stewpud
Neither Mike or Gus are really wrong. Mike has a point when pointing Nacho did everything as asked and held up his end as well as pointing fear isn't a great motivator. On the other hand Gus has his reasons, Nacho has betrayed every authority figure he has up to Gus even his dad to some extent and Gus still can use him as quick Intel on Lalo
im writing this random comment that has nothing to do with ur comment or this clip, i want to say the reason ur dad left is because of ur mum's constant nagging and that obnoxious smile she does to provoke others damn is she annoying.
Which makes it a little weird, IMO, that Gus tried to pin the blame on Lalo's compound on Nacho.
He took his finger off the pulse of his most ruthless enemies when he needed it most.
Nacho only betrayed his bosses because they were a threat to him and his dad. And then Gus continues to keep threatening him and his dad. Gus hates the Salamancas so much, but when it comes down to it, he is no different from any of them.
I think that Gus's reasoning is sound. He uses people's vulnerabilities as leverage because otherwise they would feign as though they have nothing to lose. Spawning bright ideas like bombing a nursing home at a whiff of discipline
This is actually a kinder approach than any influence the cartels have. It only seems sinister because we don't know the extent of his instrumentation. "Not my call" Mike says, meaning that his execution of tasks is about as insightful as any other, from Lydia to the child murdering thugs. Again its far better than anything that the Salamanca clan could bring on as they only understand blood, not fear.
Where I get confused is how Mike would express distrust while at the same time feel like Gus was in the right spot, driving over to Kill Walt when he found out that he killed the boss. "We had Fring!" As if to say that it makes more sense to let the man do the thinking. Which is it? Loyalty or justice?
Mike"s irony 2:37
I thought Mike would draw on the paper and say, "It's one duck! His name is Jim! And publishers are interested!"
Gus : "draw it for me."
Finger : *draws a phallus*
Gus : ???
Finger : "I'm free tonight."
This how you film a scene in the dark, take notes HBO
Can someone explain to me why bolsa hired the guys to kill Jimmy?. How was he protecting his business by protecting gus’s business
If I get it right, Bolsa have his profit from Gustavo's drug dealing
He hired those men to kill Jimmy, so money doesn't come to Lalo and he can't be bailed
Gus' business IS Bolsa's business. Bolsa handles things on the cartel side of things for Gus, and by sabotaging Lalo's bail money that Jimmy (someone who is just a runner; of whom Bolsa has no concern or affiliation) is transporting, Lalo would remain in prison out of the way and not a problem (for what Bolsa knew).
@@Hysteria98 so I presume bolsa thought Gus would be able to work with lalo in prison, when in fact gus needed lalo in Mexico so he could kill him.
@@lukekiely2450 Who knows what Bolsa would have ultimately done about Lalo- I suppose we're left to assume that it was Gus' problem to deal with.
The cartel side of the story in this Universe was very loosely handled the entire time.
Sad scene, Mike knows Nacho has a good soul and doesn’t belong in this lifestyle. He tries to save him but ultimately Nacho was always going to die…
He put himself in a situation he can't get away with. His greed to earn more caused him to betray Tuco, then Hector came. His actions became a domino effect just like Walter
@@erueru6101
Didn't Nacho want to get rid of Tuco because Tuco became more unpredictable and dangerous?
Gus' one flaw was not wanting to let go of his cards
Walt, Hector, even Gale, gus was the reason they were all still around, and that ended up destroying his whole operation
Didn’t think I’d ever make Bolsa out to be a gamer. The more you know.
Bolsa is the one who golfs!
Haha I enjoyed that
4:20 the problem with this logic is that the dog has only ever known abusive owners so biting is not only natural but justified. “Yeah the Salamanca’s threatened his family and now most of them are dead but that is just a coincidence Mike!”
well said
Precisely. Also Gus had to have known that Nacho had a tendency to bite his owners, and why a man who usually plays things super safe would ever take that chance by hiring him in the first place is beyond me. Certain breeds are known for their aggression, and you don't do yourself any favors by neglecting and abusing them.
The way they end the scene with a kickass dialogue.... The show is masterpiece ❤❤❤
Isn't it funny that the same analogy can be said about gus
Mike should have said the following.
“That’s a great observation Gus, but we’re not dogs, we’re human beings”
Nacho was put down, RIP good boy.
3:40 that's the moment when the death warrant of nacho was signed
0:49 Gus is supposed to have long sleeves
He has a lovely telephone voice.
Turns out he was put down
But on his own terms
From Gus' position and perception, he isn't being unreasonable in wanting to keep Nacho as a firmly controlled asset to further his interests and have ready to use against the Salamancas and cartel leaders. They're all playing chess with the highest stakes and it wouldn't be wise to give up a small but valuable asset that is hidden from one's opponents. At the same time, Mike isn't being unreasonble either; even as a criminal, he strongly abides by a code of fulfilling promises and holding up one's end. He knows Nacho did everything he was told and deserves to be rewarded and his father, a civilian, left alone. Even if it makes Gus look monstrous and uncaring, his interests and goals go far beyond Nacho or anyone at his level, and he needs every edge he can gather to "win" against Eladio, Bolsa, the Salamanca family, and essentially anyone in his way.
giancarlo esposito Is a amazing actor
If you only rule by fear it makes your power an illusion. As you feel untouchable and all the people your ruling can't wait to see you taking out. Gus end was actually all down to him. The combination of walt fear and Hector hate and to get the last laugh was Gus's own doing. But If it was not walt and Hector Gus would of been taking out at a later date. All that being said still one of the best characters ever created.
Ok Mr mob boss, guess you woke up this morning and got some gabagool.
@@victorochoa3662 who said anything about being a mob boss ? If you read through history books. Most men with any power get lost in their own tale. A lot of historical leaders would have been taken out if an opportunity arisen. If you read through crime history. Many men were taken out as they felt untouchable. Angelo Bruno,Joe Gallo,Danny Greene etc etc. Gus here shows he was willing to put himself in harms way just to get the final middle finger. He underestimated everyone else as he had survived so much. He believed he would never be caught.
finger
1:12 Smash Bros. sound
"If you want to keep him for a long run, i don't think "fear" is a great motivator."
Gus ignored and what happend next is a homemade bomb incident took place in a nursey home.
When you get down to it, Gus has a point. Varga only ever got into the "biting every owner" routine because he started his side business. That meant he had to get Tuco killed/put away. Putting Tuco away brought in Hector. Now Hector had to die too. He's a victim, sure, but Gus is right: he's basically tried to get every boss he's had killed. He put himself in that situation.
pretty sure that even if he never started his side buisness he would still get killed by tuco like their partner Dog did because of Tuco taking drugs
I belive gus flooded the jails with dope when tuco was in
And if you remember, When Nacho wanted to put away Tuco, Mike warns him not to do it, and that it will lead him down on a dangerous path he will never return from.
Now that was some foreshadowing.
At first i thought he was talking about Nacho, but now i realised he is talking about Homelander
Like for slipping jimmy
and he gets to be a lawyer?! What a sick joke.
What chicanery is this?
No like for you
you... you have to stop him.
It’s all good man
🔫🔫
*S'all good, man
I didn't know mike was open commission
A dog that bites every owner it's ever had hasn't found the right owner.
If you go your whole life never able to get along with anyone, who has the problem? You or everyone you meet?
A dog that bites every owner needs to be trained by the Dog Whisperer of Cali
It's like saying a girl who cheated on every boyfriend she had hasn't found the right one. 😂
@@roddydykes7053 depends
EASTER EGG
Better Call Saul
- Mike: I don't think fear is a good motivator.
Breaking Bad
- Gus: I don't believe fear is a good motivator.
Gus betrays his fatal character flaw in this scene. His cruelty and tendency to look down upon others. He refers to Varga as a dog, and in being dismissive, blinds himself.
Everything Gus does was all to avenge his boyfriend Max's death. He should understand the lengths people would go for their loved ones very well. But then he keeps threatening Nacho and Walt's loved ones while sneering at them when they take it so personally. I can respect Gus for being a cool, calculating mastermind. What turns me off is how incredibly vindictive he can be to anyone who crosses him, no matter their reasons.
Is it acceptable
What I don't get is why Gus went through with the plan to assassinate Lalo? As he says here, he legally can't stay in the United States after jumping bail, so he wouldn't be able to interfere with the superlab plans. Unless Gus assumes that Lalo will just come back on his own and keep snooping. However, he only did that when Gus's assassins murdered everyone at his home. Idk I guess Gus just assumed that Lalo would always be a threat and wanted it done quietly with Nacho's help
1:12 melee crowd
BCS: S5, E9: Bad Choice Road: Mike telling Gus that "Fear is not the best motivator" and then Gus makes his own terminology that it is necessary for fear.
BB: S3, E4: Green Light: Mike telling Gus to push Walt to produce but now starts to listen back to the prequal that Gus "doesn't believe Fear to be an effective motivator."
Yeah....way to late for Nacho.
Don Bolsa riding in a Toyota Sienna, saying the words "Walter White" and "Heisenberg", and playing Wii Golf are so out of sorts for a Cartel Don but so in character for Bolsa.
He wasn’t in the sienna; that was the twins because they needed something to transport Hector in
bolsa is a comedic one should've kept more of him
4:01 I like to think that Gus adopted this mindset from Mike later when it comes to hiring Walt to cook where he claims that fear is not a good motivator. Mike running the show in the shadows fr lol
I think Mike kept the pen.
The acting is just A MA ZING
Gus could have done better by listening to his trusted underlings.
It's an interesting detail when Mike says to Gus that fear isn't a good motivator and then forward to Breaking Bad, Gus says the same sentence to Mike.
It's probably been mentioned before but I think Gus could also be referring to Mike with his "dog being put down" speech.
Mike never bit gus. Gus is telling mike that he has no respect for nacho and that if he doesnt obey or loses his usefulness that gus will kill him. Which is exactly what happened after lalos attempted assassination. He knew too much.
@@JESUSLIVESAMEN I agree that Gus is referring to Nacho when he said his whole "a dog that bites" speech, but I think he was also trying to threaten or intimidate Mike for saying that he had a problem with Gus threatening to kill Nacho's dad. It was a veiled threat towards Mike that if he didn't do as he was told that his fate would be the same as "a dog that bites his owner".
Bravo Vince. Bravo
@@1Stunna2323 its subtle but you might be right. If hes willing to do it to nacho, he would do it to Mike if the time came
But that should already be understood
Juan Bolsa thinking "I spent 5k on this Golf simulator and it makes atari 2600 sounds?"
Why did the golf swing scare the 💩 out of me?!
What is that the Bluetooth symbol?
In Nachos case, Fring sounded exactly like The man he’s trying to kill
Mike should have replied, "well, good thing we aren't talking about a dog. Anyways, about Nacho Varga.."
Gus looks like he have a rare disease called ligma 😢
Gus☮️♥️💯
If you have not shown the cartel being killed by the special gift drink that Gus brought to the pool ,Please do so it is very important to see who was killed i believe one got passed death at the end of better call saul ! and he was in this episode you just have shown !
Gus and the cartel is like a stright up trade war.
Gus' metaphorical threat wasn't at all in reference to Nacho. It was for Mike.
Someone ahould edit that shot to make it the diamond S.
"The bad news? What bad ne-
Ohhh rightt yes very bad news. Its tragic what happened to my restaurant."
In any business, your never going to make the best decisions every single time. Unfortunately, in this drug business, a mistake costs people there lives. Seems like everyone is out to get the other rather than work together
yes, all back stabbers
For all of Gus’s talk of loyalty, he is the most disloyal character in the show.
Mike should never have died. No way he lowered his guard when Walter gets him
Sadly, Nacho doesn't bite Gus in the end.
Bolsa the only gamer of the cartel
Bolsa tried to keep Lalo in prison because he thinks will stop him from interfering with Gus’ business and his own business.
I know Bolsa is high up but so is Lalo. Imagine Hector’s reaction if he knew what Bolsa did. Makes you wonder if Bolsa suspects Lalo’s fate but stays silent to keep the money going for Eladio.
Those "owners" were Salamancas though. Gus should be able to relate.
He's right about dogs.
Bro wants control on the opps 😭
Following up on the metaphor, a dog who has been cornered will always lash out to survive. Putting a gun to his family is emotionally cornering Nacho and will, invariably, lead to the same result.
His voice sounds similar to sly Stallions vioce, my guess is they're from the same area.
Mike resembles a tin of beans.
If gus knew saul he would've had mike assassinate him for letting out lalo
nah, Gus wants Lalo down in Mexico. that’s why Gus had Mike protecting Saul and the money. how did you miss this?
All three of them want Lalo gone and Gus needed Lalo out hence why he had Mike give the details to Saul about what happened with Fred
Gus needed Lalo out of jail because Lalo was still causing problems for him behind bars, and if anything happened to him north of the border, the cartel would know Gus did it. Once Lalo was back in Mexico Gus would be able to send guys to take him out and end the problem.
I hate that Gus says that line about a dog "biting every owner he's had". Granted, Nacho did that willingly to Tuco and Hector and he MAY have done the same to Lalo but it's not like Nacho had a choice in how his relationship with Lalo played out since Gus was already blackmailing him by that point.
I know that gang. They're the Los Pollos locos
A dog only does so outta fear is what mike should have said.
This logic worked for Gus until he come across Walt
Mike looks like an avocado