Dead Air Primal | Better Than A Master Of One?
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In this video we take a look at the Dead Air Primal.
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Yes, we do appreciate the sound test in the videos. Even though microphones do not do the best on picking it versus standing beside it, but it gives us a good idea. I understand that it is a lot of work and if your cost benefit analysis does not find it worth it, then it would be a sad loss for us, but definitely understanding.
100% agree.
Definitely agree. Very useful honestly
Really appreciate the feedback! If I worried about cost benefit analysis I would have stopped making all these videos a very long time ago LOL! I'll probably bring them back it seems more people than I though are getting something out of it. Thanks for Watching!
@@AlabamaArsenal You would know better than I would, but I think the group of people looking into buying suppressors is small, but I imagine a huge percentage of the people who are looking into buying suppressors rely on videos like yours to make decisions. Your comparison videos of the nomad and nomad L really helped me make a decision between the two, despite the video not perfectly portraying how they truly sound. Every friend I've talked to who is into suppressors has said they watch videos like yours to help them make decisions. I think we all appreciate the quality of your video and the amount of useful info you give. Like the original commenter said, if you took the "raw sound" part out, we'd understand, but I know I personally really benefit from watching those
Edit: comparison footage of nomad vs nomad L within the Nomad L review video
Being a person that may have more about a dozen cans. I do love the sound testing that you do.
Thanks for the input man, we'll probably be brining it back on the next silencer video. Thanks for watching!
Check out Pew Science while you're at it.
Always love sitting down to watch one of your reviews!
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching man!
Y’all are one of the best channels out there. Super helpful. I don’t get a lot from the hearing tests and trust your opinions
Appreciate the input man! Thanks for watching!
Tim- you produce the best content I’ve found on the subject matter. Jay at PewScience provides definitive objective analysis of many silencers- but not all of them and rarely on a multitude of hosts. I find enormous value in your subjective assessment of everything you’ve shown us. Not only is it entertaining but in the case of silencers you are likely to illustrate their performance faster than Jay can test, compile, analyze, and publish his findings- not to disparage Jay in any way. You are both of high value to me. Cheers.
Really appreciate that feedback and the kind words man! Thanks for watching!
Yes sound test is very important to me, not many places you can find good video info on a newer suppressor when researching before purchasing! Great job, keep ‘em comin!!
Really appreciate the input! thanks for watching!
Considering a Primal because I recently got a USP 45 Tactical, and I also live in Michigan, the land of 450 Bushmaster. It’s ability to get tossed on other guns is also a benefit. Thanks for the review!
As an additional thought, something I think video could capture well that I haven't been able to find much on is low-light flash signatures as well as how much the back pressure affects cycling of semi auto guns. Some of these comparisons would be very interesting and something that other suppressor channels don't seem to focus on.
Here I am looking at my small assortment of cans....wishing the Primal had been an option earlier
The gateway drug was a very accurate assessment.
LOL I know it was for me! Thanks for watching!
I think sound testing multiple cans in the same video (comparison/vs.) would be more beneficial than sound testing one can at a time.
Interesting, we have done that in the past, maybe we need to do more of it. Thanks for watching!
I forgot to mention that I personally enjoy the sounds test segments...dont know if it makes sense but I would find a "3D printed cans vs. Traditional sleeved" interesting. Thanks for all the work and time.🤙
Keep doing the sound comparison in your videos. I used your video when deciding between a CGS Mod 9 and a Mod 9 SK. For the difference in sound reduction, I went with the full size version.
Really appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching!
Your sound testing is by far my fav or all that try to do them. Keep up the good work plz
The sound clips are great
I appreciate decibel readings and honest opinion more than a sound check. You can't really hear the difference over audio anyway.
Appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching!
Really appreciate the sound test and quality. Because of your testing the dtf-lti on the 8.6blk i grabbed one AND LOVE IT! Keep up the killer content sir!
Initially I was in the camp that really liked the sound tests, but at this point I trust your judgment when it comes down to it. You say it yourself in this video: You started with a jack of all trades can and then got a 22 can and then the rest is history.
I have been waiting for you to post more videos! Love your content.
Appreciate that man! Thanks for watching!
I bought a 30 cal can because I thought I'd be happy with it and wouldn't mind swapping things around all the time but like you mentioned it was just the gateway... LOL I like this one for sure I have 2 Dead Air suppressors the Nomad 30 and the Nomad 30 TI and I really love them they just make some quality stuff over there. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
Appreciate that man! Yes the whole Nomad series are just some awesome cans! Thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot for the sound test. I’m already purchased one but just wanted to know how it sound to use. Hopefully i didn’t pick up a piece of junk
Definitely appreciate the sound tests. Not only has it helped me to choose a suppressor here and there, but also helps with choosing a host gun
Good info to have. Thanks for watching man!
Sound has to be heard honestly. But your description and comparison is more valuable than numbers. Get with PewScience if you want numbers
Sound tests are good, but a/b comparisons are great. For example your Nomad L video has unsuppressed/Nomad/Nomad L back to back and I really appreciated hearing the difference.
I would love to hear the Primal vs Bushwhacker vs Hybrid back to back on several key hosts.
This one is a great vid thank you
I do appreciate the sound test, I'm not super in the market for suppressors. The cost for me are quite steep and I've already picked out the can for my 300 black and 5.56 builds so I'm squared away in that department.
By all means I'm not trying to tell you what to do I don't want to come across that way, I really enjoy all of your firearm reviews. You guys by far do the best firearm reviews in my book. I hope that in between all the suppressor videos there's plans for more firearm reviews.
I ended up buying my first CZ because of your reviews, the P07, and I've happily had it as my EDC for the last 2.5 years
We have 2 very cool firearm reviews in the pipeline. At least I think they are cool. Thanks for the input, and thanks for watching!
In regards to upgrades, do you have any suggestions for new P07 owners?
My 2 cents on sound tests is while interesting I never chance decibel numbers when looking at cans. I have personally heard quieter cans with higher DB numbers and the opposite for the lower depending on manufacturer, ammo, etc and thats something I sorta learned (because the jargon is a little above my understanding) from the gentleman at pew science. The perceived sound of a can is different for everyone and the true nature of "quite" is actually the pressure wave.
Pew Science is the way... Thanks for the feedback man! and Thanks for watching!
I see that paladin! Can’t wait for the review of it. I need a backpack pistol.
I'd be okay with just a subjective sound assessment. But what every silencer really needs is before and after group size and point of impact shift of at least one caliber. And repeatability test with direct thread.
Good Point!
I definitely like the sound comparison info, even if some elements are subjective. It’s helpful info IMO.
Really appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching!
Your videos are always outstanding thank you
Another fantastic video in the bag! Thanks for the great content man!
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching!
@@AlabamaArsenal also I have to say I do greatly appreciate the sound clips. I know it’s hard to translate over a mic but they are helpful. That being said I know you listen to more cans than most and I personally trust your opinion and judgement on this topic. This video felt great and was informative and enjoyable to watch without the sound clips. So really for me it’s either or. I’m just happy as long as you’re still making content.
The most impressive part of this whole video is that you actually got the “Jack of All Trades” phrase correct. I’m a journeyman and cringe every time I hear that phase said incorrectly. Well done.😆🤙🏽
Those cows @ 0:38 were chill AF tho.
Another great review! You guys are killing it! I Can’t wait to see the Paladin review. Thanks for the awesome content
Coming up next! Thanks for watching man!
Awesome video Tim. Been waiting on this one! I'm still thinking about getting one of these to add to the collection. 👍🏼
I catch a bunch of crap comments on my videos about the sound quality for the sound differences, or because I don't use (i.e. can't afford 🤣) professional equipment, and because of background noise I couldn't control (at the time, I now have permission to shut off the big fans if I want to) at the range.
Personally, I like the sound tests, because I've been around this stuff my whole life, and I own and have shot many suppressors, so I know what to listen for to gauge how it's going to sound. Also, I use BeyerDynamic DT770 PRO headphones, and an Audience EVO4 interface so I get REALLY good sound reproduction.
Thanks for the video. I've been on the fence and I believe you can persuade me to fall on the right side!
Hope the video was helpful! Thanks for watching!
6:55, great logic here, a can like this allows an individual to see if they like the platform and if they like it suppressed. If you like it suppressed then maybe you can get a dedicated can.
Total value of those Dewalt bins, $1M. 😂😂 The cost of mounts and muzzle devices adds up so fast!
Thank you so much for not including decibel testing. Those are so boring
You're welcome! Appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching!
I appreciate the sound test. It is an objective view of the product.
1) AMEN to ASR puckering a bunch of butts up. Worst mount in the industry, and as such will never go back to scico again
2) The sound comparison on your videos are most helpful. It is better than absolutely nothing. Your channel is a treasure chest of information, most of us wont see or touch these things before considering buying, let alone hear them. The relative comparison within the video is golden.
3) thanks for all the great, consistent videos!!
You follow Jay’s data at Pew Science, you know that the sound test portions in your videos aren’t very scientific. That being said, even knowing it’s not translating perfectly or giving me a real idea of how I would hear it in person, I personally still enjoy those segments quite a bit. I like hearing the tonal difference between different cartridges running through the cans, I like hearing how the secondary combustion of short barrels changes the sound in the video, and -completely unrelated to the sound- I like that in those segments you’re standing still and the camera is stationary, so I can get a good look at the amount of gas being blown back down the barrel. I count on Jay for sound data, but I still get information that I personally find valuable in your test segments. Thank you for your hard work!
Side note: I liked the backing track you used in this one, idk why, it seemed happy. Lol.
Really good feedback man, I like hearing that someone like you still gets something out of the sound tests. I'll probably bring them back for the next one. Thanks for watching!
👍🔥 I enjoy the sound comparisons
Yes absolutely! The sound test! And Data! ...That's awesome!
And yes I know it takes time!
But you are giving awesome information out!
Per suppressor and different firearm's!
I have referred those videos to many people!
Any one that does understand suppressiors knows you can't gauge the sound through a video.
But it does give a damn good idea!
I've personally collected and recorded data like this it is alot of time and $ even more time videoing and editing!
I give your channel a A+
Professional work guys!
Capitol armory tested the primal with different end caps and there was a massive reduction in dB when the put the 22cal end cap on for 556 so I recommend just getting the different sizes you won't be sorry
I just purchased the SilencerCo Hybrid 46, for all these same reasons! Didn't know about this can, until now! But it looks like a similar can design and versatility. Nice review, as always.
And yes I appreciate the sound tests. Cameras, microphones, and videos often make a normal gun sound suppressed. So, getting your input and db. #'s is a factual input for me!
I like to sound testing. Tho I think with With your knowledge and video collection you could compare it two other suppressors or just do a single round with and without the suppressor.
I know I appreciate all your work and time . Thank you and your team
That subsonic 4570 lever action was quiet!
Its so quiet! SO much fun! Thanks for watching!
What a timely review (I've been looking at possibly picking one up.) Great review as always dude.
Hope it was helpful! Appreciate you watching man!
Much more important than 2 or 3db difference is a POI shift at 100yds on small caliber rifle cartridges. You guys notice that at all on 223 or 308?
Good Point!
I'm really curious how much different it is with the 556 front cap everyone who uses this suppressor says it lacks with 556 but I haven't seen anyone try the front cap
Thanks
Thanks for watching!
I do like to hear/see the sound testing, but I agree that it's probably not that helpful in reality because even if you capture it on a great microphone, the majority of us are probably watching on a phone or laptop with mediocre speakers and the sound just doesn't translate well. For me the most relevant sound tests I've seen are when different platforms are compared directly and under the same conditions to provide some level of comparison. At the end of the day, it's probably more useful to have your anecdotal explanation of how it performs and compares to other known suppressors. Thanks for the work you do and I look forward to more content from your channel!
Hey man I just wanna say I appreciate the honesty. Too many youtubers would cone on here and tell people it's Jack of all trades and master of them all. I respect the honesty.
God thats just a beautiful sound for a 45-70, wish i had a way of swapping my front load for a side loader
Your summary is better than listening to the recordings. Both are optimal, but I think we can trust your impression given the amount of guns, suppressors, etc. you guys have.
I don't need super in-depth sound reviews, but it would be nice for a little bit of B-roll of shooting suppressed without music playing over top.
Appreciate the feedback, and the first minute of this video is intentional that. Thanks for watching!
@@AlabamaArsenal with a rebel yell, I want Moe, Moe, Moe..
That mark 23 is just pure gorgeousness
The opening multi-caliber montage was impressive.
I enjoy seeing suppressor videos that include Db ratings.
I am a relatively new Suppressor owner, having been in the game probably about a year or a little more and I own a grand total of three.
I have a B&T APC9 SD, PRO, Wolfman and the CGS Group Mod9 FS.
I use the Wolfman and the mod nine on the following Registered SBR PCC’s‘
H&K:
SP5 & PDW.
B&T:
APC 9 PRO
KUSA:
KP9.
What I was hoping to achieve, and what I have actually achieved seem to be two different things. What I wanted, was a hearing safe experience so I could go to the range and shoot ear pro free.
What I got was, an experience where even with subsonic 9 I still have ear ringing that lasts for hours after the range trip.
I have not quite narrowed down the source, I don’t know if it is the actual firing of the Subsonic rounds and their associated noise, or if it is a result of the metallic clicking of the bolt action, or a combination of the two. Like I said I am a suppressor newbie in the extreme.
Since my hearing is already bad enough, and I do understand that the damage is cumulative, I still wear ear pro when shooting suppressed.
Anyway, I do enjoy your videos, you guys seem to really know your stuff. Thanks for the content!
Phil Griffin
Central Alabama
Dang! You described me to a T! Bought a one-to-do-all can and a 22 can, but now want another one for a specific caliber. I’m on my way…
Would you do a sound comparison between this and the Hybrid 46? I think that might be a awesome head to head video. Thanks for all the great videos👍👍👍👍
It wouldn't be fair because my Hybrid has who knows how many tens of thousands of rounds through it. To my ears I give the advantage to the Primal, but maybe Jay from Pewscience will test them at some point. Thanks for watching!
Wow, these video went by like it was two minutes long, glad to hear the quote said correctly 👍
Double A, Outstanding! Awesome and thorough review as always. You guys are my go to when it comes to guns and cans. 🤘🏼
Had a conjugal visit with my Primal. Love it works great on FNX-T all the way down to 5.56.
I do have a 6.5 front cap
In your opinion, is the cap worth it?
@@pcpolice7937yes. Noticeable difference
You guys always have the best video thumbnails and voice for firearms videos! Awesome job!
AWESOME Video!!!! Just got my DeadAir Wolfman out of NFA Jail, it's AMAZING!!! Now I am going back and forth with the Sandman S and the Primal.🤔
We absolutley appreciate the sound tests and all the effort your team puts into your videos. I bought a wolfman because of your videos and couldnt be happier. Another great video brother !
0:45, worlds luckiest cows, he missed every one of them!
I think I fit all the categories you listed…. Probably getting one of these 😀
My first suppressor was a Griffin armament Optimus 9mm do all. This one is extremely similar to Griffin Armament Bushwacker 46! Theirs is serviceable and you can fire everything from 338 LM down to 22LR. But they're mounting options imo aren't as good. Decisions decisions.
as far as the sound tests - I definitely want to see sound tests, but depending on the speakers/headset its being played on, it is hard to relate that to real world. While quantitative data is great as well with the decibel readings, the same problem arises of how to compare that to real life. One of the cooler video's I saw as far as this was they shot a suppressed 22 and then had a staple gun that they "shot" in the same place to show the comparison. From your own video - with the 45-70 in the very start, the way I used to try to judge the sound was comparing the sound of the shot vs the sound of the lever being worked.
Great video. Maybe just me but I can only really tell a difference when someone shoots subs thur a can on video. All the supers sound the same. But I do like to see the decibel difference in a test.
Your videos are always so well done.
Glad you think so! Thanks for watching!
We need the LWRC SMG 45 video 😫
Well hell yeah. Ive been eye balling this can for a minute now. Might be just what i need. Thanks
love your videos dude i bought a nomad 30 from your videos because of all the info you gave
4:00 Do those cows mind those fast projectiles flying by them? lol
I bet to those cows that's the sound of their guardian angels flying over
I’ve always enjoyed your sound tests and have found them helpful
Keep doing what you've been doing
Appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching!
I've got the Silencerco hybrid, and the OSS 30cal can. Still waiting on my Sparrow 22.
Awesome review! Ordered primal in Jan. as my first. Haven’t got it yet and already put a nomad LT on order and researching for more.
Great video as always, gentlemen. The insights are appreciated. Regarding what I would like to see in your vids? The sound pressure tests always tickle the little nerdy data miner in me; but, utimately, they are not what I want to hear about. I would prefer honest and open comparisons with other hardware that you have hands on experience with. I realize that it is not likely for that to happen, but indicating if a do-all suppressor (like a primal) is even remotely close to a Mod9 or closer to a Wolfman on a 9mm would be nice. How does it fare against a Nomad on a .308? Same applies to what you would hang on a lever 45-70. Is the Primal close to a Hybrid for tone? Given the subjective nature of the items and how they perform, I get why you don't typically do it; but, it sure would be nice to know where some options stack up in the pantheon of whisper pickles. Thanks again, for the hard work and time that you all put in, and as always, I refuse to take your advice, and endeavor to collect yet one more stamp.... Good Lord. 😁
Thanks for the feedback, in my opinion I would say that the primal is very close to the Mod9 and the wolfman on 9mm. Now that being said it is also a good bit larger. The primal is close to a Nomad 30, but not quite as quiet, and no where near as quiet as Nomad L. To my ears the Primal betters the Hybrid by a bit, but not sure that's totally fair because my Hybrid has so many rounds through it. Thanks for watching!
@@AlabamaArsenal respect. And a big thanks, as well!
Recently stumbled upon your channel and found a lot of your videos informative thanks!
YES I like the sound testing.
Mines been in purgatory for a couple months. Great video.
Absolutely love the sound test and I own 6 suppressors. Please continue that part of your videos. They scratch my itch when I have a can in jail 😂
Love the sound test in all the videos.
id say for the sound tests i like them, but i trust your judgement on suppressors! for the price point on this suppressor i think this would be a great suppressor for the future 8.6 blackout!
No sound test needed for me, I trust your opinion on how it sounds more.
Appreciate the feedback man! Thanks for watching!
Just waiting on mine. Hopefully this new eforms process works as it should. I plan to use mine on .308, 7.62x39, .45acp, and 5.56... I have seen RUclips videos where people used it on 22lr, but your video explained why it's not recommended.
Did you get yours yet ?
"Outlier" here. Checking in! Thanks for the review!
love the sound testing
I enjoy the sound test thanks for all y’all do
Got this thing for my .44 magnum Henry X-model. Hurry up ATF.
Thank you for sharing, great videos as always
Appreciate you watching man!
For some reason At 00:39 I remembered that jingle
“Beef, it’s Whats for dinner”
This is my next suppressor it's going on a handi rifle in 45 colt most the time and 458 socom and ar45
I am now curious how well 10mm will do through it! I know it can take it but would love to know how it does.
This video finally helped me make a determination on the first suppressor to buy. Amazing functionality for the price.
Love my Primal