The reason reason everyone loves Zuko's arc is because it's spans the entire series. He starts out as an antagonist but he has principles and integrity. Zuko shows is that redemption isn't always a straight line. Intention and actions go hand in hand.
I liked how they had Regina get redeemed as well, not just Cady. By the end, she learns to channel her rage into something more productive, namely lacrosse, since she's merely a confused, vulnerable teenage girl, beneath all of her bravado.
Fleabag would be a great addition here. The start of her actual redemption is even signaled formally - when she gives up her "asides" to the audience, whoch are an expression of her reluctance to take real responsibility for her actions
A good redemption arc requires the character to be challenged in their character growth while trying to atone for their mistakes. If the redemption comes too easily the audience will never buy it.
@@BatAmerica Agreed!👍 A prime example of this is actually Jacob from the twilight series or the twilight saga,And now that I think about it,I feel like the entire saga of twilight was just a dumpster fire the story it’s characters just everything was just awful,including its romance.💘
The thing about Jaime that GOT failed to explore is that Jaime was first and foremost a good person. His act of killing Aerys was one of supreme selflessness and honor but EVERYONE condemned him for it. Even society's paragon of honor, Ned Stark. These same people had nothing to say while he stood outside Aerys door as he viciously raped his wife or while he tortured and murdered subjects. But saving the city? Oh now he's the scum of the earth. This causes Jaime to basically give up on his lifelong desire to be an honorable knight like Arthur Dayne and embrace his inner bastard because fuck it, that's the way everyone treats him anyway. This ironically rings of Tyrions advice to Jon "wear it like armor and it can never be used to hurt you." Jaimes arc was not one of redemption truly, but rather of him dropping the facade, being vulnerable and embracing his righteousness again. The catalyst is meeting Brienne who is both a warrior and honorable. She challenges him while Cersei reinforces his worst impulses. That's why the show utterly failed his character by a) dropping the Riverlands plot and b) having him go back to die with Cersei. It spits in the face of everything book Jaime is.
An interesting take on Jaime. Because even though I don't doubt that he was once a man of honor, he made the decision to kill Aerys as a last resort, rather than righteousness. It was for the good of the realm, but not so much a grand gesture of being noble, as it was desperation. But it's not like he became an outcast. "Kingslayer" is basically just name-calling, and in whispers no doubt, since few would dare challenge him to his face. He was still a Lannister, and highly regarded across the realm. If it is so easy for him to turn into an a-hole just because people call him names, that says a lot about him too. So how does pushing a child out of a window fit into that "first and foremost he's a good person" theory?
Jaime’s journey was never a simple redemption arc. He has moments of true good in him, but he’s also the man who killed his own cousin and pushed a child out of a window. He can’t forgive himself for these things, and he can’t unmire himself from his destructive love for Cersei. He’s a man who has trained himself to see the world in black and white, duty to family, honor is a horse. He allows shades of grey to enter his worldview at times, but the hostile, judgmental world he lives will always only ever see him as the Kingslayer, and as such he has built walls around himself so thick that even when a good act crumbles a few stones, he still remains isolated. It’s no coincidence that the people who most see the good in him, Tyrion and Brienne, are the ones by his side vouching for him at Winterfell. But when all is said and done, he can’t forgive himself, even when others do. So he does what most humans do: he regresses. Jaime Lannister’s story isn’t a redemption; it’s a tragedy. Also, the Riverlands arc is in the show, it’s just punted for the ill-conceived Dorne plot. He doesn’t burn the letter from Cersei like he does in the books, but since we’re never going to find out the actual resolution of that cliffhanger, I don’t give it much credence. The downside to never finishing your magnum opus is that people stop caring about the building blocks after nearly 14 years.
The best villian redemption Arc I've seen lately is Viren in The Dragon Prince. I really felt for him in the end despite what I had seen his character do in previous seasons
Yes! I shed literal tears once his backstory and initial motives were revealed and it made me uncomfortable and want to hug him when he was trying his best to make amends
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These are definitely a lot of great ones. Another of mine is Benjamin Linus from Lost. And an underrated one is Petra from Jane the Virgin. A "Fake" redemption that has always bothered me is Billy from Stranger Things. **spoilers** He was an abusive, racist jerk, and this is never reconciled before the show asks us to feel bad about his big sacrifice at the end of S3.
Petra was a good redemption. Well Billy I could buy since the only person who was strongly affected was his step sister it’s not like anyone outside his family consider him this great guy
Good redemption arcs are one where people make steps to be better and aknowledge their mistakes or bad actions or work toward being better like Captain Hook/killain once upon a time. If they do regress keep trying to do the right things if they don’t do the work and keep becoming worse than the redemption is not good like with Chuck on Gossip girl or Rumple on Once upon a time both guys tended to slide to much between two extreme and were intresting characters in the beginning. The Rose family had a good redemption so did Rebecca bunch
Everybody loves a good redemption story I mean,that’s why we all love red dead redemption two right even though it’s technically not a sequel,It’s actually a prequel story or was actually a really good main character and just really well done especially when you went with the high honor ending.
Walter White constantly excuses - to others and himself - what he does by saying it's for his family. But near the very end, when he last meets Skyler, he tells her that he did it all for himself and how it made him feel. Is this an admission or a realization?
I think he mostly said it because he knew that the police was listening to their conversation and he wanted to make sure that they didn't think Skyler was involved. Also, I think he said it to make it easier for his family to not miss and mourn him.
will you please address in Friends the "let's laugh at Ross being kissed by a grownup when he was underage" episode, and "let's laugh at Chandler being tricked to kiss someone who he assumed was a ciswoman", and also "Rachel gets angry at Ross for saying No when she wanted to sleep with him" in season 10?
Sorry, I agree with Cady being redeemed in Mean Girls because she makes the effort to do the right thing after having done bad things and finding herself, and Regina may have had redemption by focusing on becoming a better person and finding people she could connect with, but I didn’t get that with Janice, because she didn’t really change (maybe other than admitting to herself that she did care about Cady and genuinely wanted to be friends with her) or take much accountability other than saying “at least me and Regina know we’re bad”. Honestly, I don’t think Janice got redeemed at all, because she didn’t put in the effort to make anything right or make herself a better person like Cady or even Regina did: she had her revenge against Regina, she got exactly what she wanted and didn’t face any consequences for those actions. In my mind, I don’t think that really counts as redemption. Even in something like Clueless, Cher realises the influence she had on Tai and the kind of person she turned her into, with her saying she “created some kind of a monster”.
I think that good redemption arcs will become more rare now considering how entitled characters are becoming now. After all, you cant have a redemption if you are not capable of recognizing your mistakes.
One of the silliest bits of plotting in Gossip Girl was the idea that a blood transfusion is like an organ transplant and has to be donated by a rare match, usually a close relative. This is nonsense. Hospitals have blood banks. Most people can receive Type O if their own type is not available. The writers were too lazy to care that Chuck would have been fine with stock blood from the hospital store - they just wanted a plot twist. I thought Chuck and Blair were the only relatable couple. They were difficult damaged people who nevertheless needed each other and figured it out. Flake Serena and wannabe Dan were a joke. He's a bore, she's a bolter like her mother, already on her fourth or fifth husband ...
Alison redemption arc never should had happened she was better as a villain the show ruined her character same goes for chuck bass the writers failed at showing that he changed and learned
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The reason reason everyone loves Zuko's arc is because it's spans the entire series. He starts out as an antagonist but he has principles and integrity. Zuko shows is that redemption isn't always a straight line. Intention and actions go hand in hand.
Zuko's redemption arc is so well done...great writing
@@chev4197 Agreed. Especially when he is initially struggling to move past his trauma when Toph surprised him.
Agreed
Absolute best redemption in history
Unmatched
I liked how they had Regina get redeemed as well, not just Cady. By the end, she learns to channel her rage into something more productive, namely lacrosse, since she's merely a confused, vulnerable teenage girl, beneath all of her bravado.
Fleabag would be a great addition here. The start of her actual redemption is even signaled formally - when she gives up her "asides" to the audience, whoch are an expression of her reluctance to take real responsibility for her actions
A good redemption arc requires the character to be challenged in their character growth while trying to atone for their mistakes. If the redemption comes too easily the audience will never buy it.
@@BatAmerica Agreed!👍 A prime example of this is actually Jacob from the twilight series or the twilight saga,And now that I think about it,I feel like the entire saga of twilight was just a dumpster fire the story it’s characters just everything was just awful,including its romance.💘
The thing about Jaime that GOT failed to explore is that Jaime was first and foremost a good person.
His act of killing Aerys was one of supreme selflessness and honor but EVERYONE condemned him for it. Even society's paragon of honor, Ned Stark. These same people had nothing to say while he stood outside Aerys door as he viciously raped his wife or while he tortured and murdered subjects. But saving the city? Oh now he's the scum of the earth.
This causes Jaime to basically give up on his lifelong desire to be an honorable knight like Arthur Dayne and embrace his inner bastard because fuck it, that's the way everyone treats him anyway. This ironically rings of Tyrions advice to Jon "wear it like armor and it can never be used to hurt you."
Jaimes arc was not one of redemption truly, but rather of him dropping the facade, being vulnerable and embracing his righteousness again. The catalyst is meeting Brienne who is both a warrior and honorable. She challenges him while Cersei reinforces his worst impulses.
That's why the show utterly failed his character by a) dropping the Riverlands plot and b) having him go back to die with Cersei. It spits in the face of everything book Jaime is.
Jamie was on a redemption arc?
An interesting take on Jaime. Because even though I don't doubt that he was once a man of honor, he made the decision to kill Aerys as a last resort, rather than righteousness. It was for the good of the realm, but not so much a grand gesture of being noble, as it was desperation. But it's not like he became an outcast. "Kingslayer" is basically just name-calling, and in whispers no doubt, since few would dare challenge him to his face. He was still a Lannister, and highly regarded across the realm. If it is so easy for him to turn into an a-hole just because people call him names, that says a lot about him too. So how does pushing a child out of a window fit into that "first and foremost he's a good person" theory?
To be fair, Jaime never told anyone the real reason he killed Aerys. All everyone knew was that he killed the king when his dad was invading the city.
@@robchuk4136 people are so quick to forgive him trying to kill a child. Same with Theon.
Jaime’s journey was never a simple redemption arc. He has moments of true good in him, but he’s also the man who killed his own cousin and pushed a child out of a window. He can’t forgive himself for these things, and he can’t unmire himself from his destructive love for Cersei. He’s a man who has trained himself to see the world in black and white, duty to family, honor is a horse. He allows shades of grey to enter his worldview at times, but the hostile, judgmental world he lives will always only ever see him as the Kingslayer, and as such he has built walls around himself so thick that even when a good act crumbles a few stones, he still remains isolated. It’s no coincidence that the people who most see the good in him, Tyrion and Brienne, are the ones by his side vouching for him at Winterfell. But when all is said and done, he can’t forgive himself, even when others do. So he does what most humans do: he regresses. Jaime Lannister’s story isn’t a redemption; it’s a tragedy.
Also, the Riverlands arc is in the show, it’s just punted for the ill-conceived Dorne plot. He doesn’t burn the letter from Cersei like he does in the books, but since we’re never going to find out the actual resolution of that cliffhanger, I don’t give it much credence. The downside to never finishing your magnum opus is that people stop caring about the building blocks after nearly 14 years.
Zuko is what Jaime Lannister should have been
Happy death day is a fun time loop, even if it's not that deep.
Shoya's redemption arc in A Silent Voice is one of the best.❤
Faith, The Vampire Slayer (Buffy/Angel) had one of my favorite redemption arcs.
The best villian redemption Arc I've seen lately is Viren in The Dragon Prince. I really felt for him in the end despite what I had seen his character do in previous seasons
Yes! I shed literal tears once his backstory and initial motives were revealed and it made me uncomfortable and want to hug him when he was trying his best to make amends
Logan from Veronica Mars. The best.
Love Logan's redemption arc it was so brilliant
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Arthur Morgan>>>>>>>All characters in fiction
These are definitely a lot of great ones. Another of mine is Benjamin Linus from Lost. And an underrated one is Petra from Jane the Virgin.
A "Fake" redemption that has always bothered me is Billy from Stranger Things. **spoilers** He was an abusive, racist jerk, and this is never reconciled before the show asks us to feel bad about his big sacrifice at the end of S3.
You are right about Billy's arc
Petra was a good redemption. Well Billy I could buy since the only person who was strongly affected was his step sister it’s not like anyone outside his family consider him this great guy
Good redemption arcs are one where people make steps to be better and aknowledge their mistakes or bad actions or work toward being better like Captain Hook/killain once upon a time. If they do regress keep trying to do the right things if they don’t do the work and keep becoming worse than the redemption is not good like with Chuck on Gossip girl or Rumple on Once upon a time both guys tended to slide to much between two extreme and were intresting characters in the beginning.
The Rose family had a good redemption so did Rebecca bunch
Cassandra from the Tangled TV series shows how not to make a redemption arc. The character has caused split in the fanbase.
Variab on the other hand, had his done right
Awesome!🤩
Everybody loves a good redemption story I mean,that’s why we all love red dead redemption two right even though it’s technically not a sequel,It’s actually a prequel story or was actually a really good main character and just really well done especially when you went with the high honor ending.
I think Bubbles'arc on "the Wire" is the best redemption story I've seen.
Walter White constantly excuses - to others and himself - what he does by saying it's for his family. But near the very end, when he last meets Skyler, he tells her that he did it all for himself and how it made him feel. Is this an admission or a realization?
It’s been a while since I watched BB. Did Walter White say those things so his family would not mourn or miss him?
I think he mostly said it because he knew that the police was listening to their conversation and he wanted to make sure that they didn't think Skyler was involved. Also, I think he said it to make it easier for his family to not miss and mourn him.
will you please address in Friends the "let's laugh at Ross being kissed by a grownup when he was underage" episode,
and "let's laugh at Chandler being tricked to kiss someone who he assumed was a ciswoman",
and also "Rachel gets angry at Ross for saying No when she wanted to sleep with him" in season 10?
I love some and hate some
Sorry, I agree with Cady being redeemed in Mean Girls because she makes the effort to do the right thing after having done bad things and finding herself, and Regina may have had redemption by focusing on becoming a better person and finding people she could connect with, but I didn’t get that with Janice, because she didn’t really change (maybe other than admitting to herself that she did care about Cady and genuinely wanted to be friends with her) or take much accountability other than saying “at least me and Regina know we’re bad”.
Honestly, I don’t think Janice got redeemed at all, because she didn’t put in the effort to make anything right or make herself a better person like Cady or even Regina did: she had her revenge against Regina, she got exactly what she wanted and didn’t face any consequences for those actions. In my mind, I don’t think that really counts as redemption.
Even in something like Clueless, Cher realises the influence she had on Tai and the kind of person she turned her into, with her saying she “created some kind of a monster”.
Easily the worst ones are done in the legends of tomorrow
Sylar from Heroes. The worst. After season 1 the writers didn't know what to do with him.
not sure why anyone would try to redeem a serial killer like him.
I think that good redemption arcs will become more rare now considering how entitled characters are becoming now. After all, you cant have a redemption if you are not capable of recognizing your mistakes.
The worst tv is having Chuck kill
Bart bass but Bart should have died . But Chuck would have died without a blood transfusion.
One of the silliest bits of plotting in Gossip Girl was the idea that a blood transfusion is like an organ transplant and has to be donated by a rare match, usually a close relative. This is nonsense. Hospitals have blood banks. Most people can receive Type O if their own type is not available.
The writers were too lazy to care that Chuck would have been fine with stock blood from the hospital store - they just wanted a plot twist.
I thought Chuck and Blair were the only relatable couple. They were difficult damaged people who nevertheless needed each other and figured it out. Flake Serena and wannabe Dan were a joke. He's a bore, she's a bolter like her mother, already on her fourth or fifth husband ...
‘Emily in Paris’ has the worst arc PERIODT
It could’ve been such a fun, witty show. Wasted potential.
Agreed,I mean to be honest and to be honest the show is just bad on as Hole.🕳️
Arthur Morgan has the best redemption arc in fiction. It’s already in the Title, Red Dead Redemption
You forgot Better Call Saul 😢
Worst kne in recent memory was Wanda's redemption at the end of Wandavision
Alison redemption arc never should had happened she was better as a villain the show ruined her character same goes for chuck bass the writers failed at showing that he changed and learned
Watchmojo's top ten and best and worst redemption arcs
Breaking bad had a movie!?
crazy ex girlfriend mentioned ❤❤
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Regina in Once Upon a Time, flip flop, over and over. Got really boring.