Doctor Who 14x6 REACTION | Series 14 Episode 6 | "Rogue" | Jonathan Groff
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Want to know a fun fact about when the Doctor sang the Willy Wonka song when they entered the TARDIS? Apparently Ncuti’s agent asked him about what he’d like to play next and he said Doctor Who or Willy Wonka. Nice little nod there to Ncuti’s other wish.
Yes!!! THANKS!!! If I had a No Prize, I'd give you one :)
I cried for him! 🫶🏻❤️ I was so happy he got to be both 😝
Another fun fact Dr Who ratings dropped to an all time low because it’s pure wOke garbage. A pile of shite 😂
@@irwin3381 I feel sorry for you, you will forever be angry and bitter because the "woke" isn't going anywhere anytime soon and deep down you know that. No matter what you tell yourself, you will always be left being upset over diversity, you could change as a person but I doubt you have it in you.
Also the ratings are the best they have been in years so cope seethe and mald
The Doctor is a very Willy Wonka esque character so it works.
The Dr and rogue dancing to Argentine Tango, which was traditionally danced by 2 men back in the day in the Bordellos in Buenas Ares. Loved it
Bingo ! Completely correct
Thanks, I just know it as Piazzolla's Libertango from 1974. Grace Jones used the music for I've Seen That Face Before.
@@ianstopher9111 I love the Grace Jones song.
When I first watched the episode I didn't really get the Doctor/Rogue thing but having rewatched it through some reactor's eyes I think I finally see it. I want Rogue back. He is the perfect answer to River for a new audience.
I loved this episode. It's been a long time since we had a whirlwind romance episode, like Astrid Peth, Madame Du Pompadour etc. The chemistry between Groff and Gatwa was AMAZING. I stan!!
I loved their dynamic!!
Such "Family of Blood" vibes - from the first neck-twist.
100% and Rogue as a subdued captain Jack !
I figured that since the trap was maxed out, they technically were all released for a split second when Rogue stepped in but since he pushed Ruby off so quickly, everyone who didn’t move off remained trapped
Oh my GOD I loved this episode SO much. A D&D moment! Incredible chemistry between Ncuti and Jonathan Groff! LGBTQ+ representation! Ruby being delightful and fun! Loved this ep SO much.
The rogue in my current D&D group is a literal chaos goblin. Me being the paladin... I hate him so much 😅 (The character, not the player!) So even though I liked Rogue in this episode, all I could think of the entire time was "I prefer the X-Man Rogue," and "he's not nearly insane enough to be the rogue" 😂 Clearly, he's the Mastermind subclass.
They've ruined a once great tv series.
@@SiloGrain How? Go ahead and be very specific.
Was it the fast romance for the Doctor? Because Madame du Pompadour and Astrid say hello.
Was it the funny, campy story with antagonists who turned out not to be the real point of the story? Because the Adipose say hello.
Was it the campy, silly fun? Because the living plastic and the slitheen say hello.
Go ahead, tell us *exactly* what they changed that has you crying. Say it with your whole chest, tough guy.
@@jasonmarbach they made it gay and lame
Well, at least you’re honest about being a bigot. Still very, very dumb. The Doctor has always (like, since 1963) been pretty openly omnisexual. The Doctor is into men, women, aliens, other, doesn’t matter. Often as not, the Doctor is asexual/aromantic, too. The Doctor has always been all over the spectrum. The 9th Doctor called the whole structure of partitioned sexuality stupid in the very first series of Nu Who. Doctor Who has *always* been this, and your utter failure to recognize that isn’t anyone’s fault or problem but yours. Begone.
Great reaction! 🎉 Thank you for this. ❤
Honestly, i am SO TIRED of people comparing Rogue to Captain Jack or River. He feels (and Jonathan Groff said this) more like a gay Han Solo than anything. Jack was outgoing and flirted with anyone. Rogue was laconic, introverted and just there to work. Both Jack and River were all bravado and over the top gestures and had very little vulnerability. Rogue was able to be introspective and vulnerable with the Doctor. The only thing he has in common with them is that he's into at least one man and is an independent space contractor with some moral dubiousness who carries a gun.
The big difference here? *The Doctor* was the flirtatious one; he was the one making all kinds of comments about how hot he thought Rogue was. If anything, the Doctor acted like Captain Jack or River.
Finally, I have NEVER seen this level of chemistry between a Doctor and another character. It was absolutely electric.⚡
I love the Han Solo reference because a) another commenter pointed out that Rogue's ship is a Falcon and b) this Doctor definitely has a bit of Leia energy. 😂
If you're Groff fans who've not yet seen Looking, you must check that out!
Is it terrible that all I could think was "He parked it behind the moon?" Boy I hope they get Rogue back before the moon hatches and a big old dragon can run into it by mistake. Otherwise no spaceship."?
Watching this episode, you can really sense the different style in writing compared to RTD and Moffat. This really does take me back to season two of Doctor Who in 2006 feels like a return to form for me. Loved this episode. Just loved every moment of it.
Jack Murphy, the Bridgerton choreographer, also worked on 'Rogue'.
That’s awesome!! 🤩
"We've got more pressing matters right now" - Me, for literally *every* mid-action screen kiss in anything ever made lol
Thank god that Ruby knew the proper use of books!😊
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This is a dungeons and dragons episode where aliens are role playing people by killing the human and playing them. I love this episode. I want to know who rogue is really and I hope the Dr meets up with him. This is a funny episode which had serous undertones .I like that the doctor has a venerable side and he can fall in love.
Funnily in an audio story, the Doctor does actually trap an alien inside a game of D&D.
I’ve been thinking about the easy resolution of just pushing Ruby out of the way… They did set the trap for a maximum of six, once Rogue put the last bird Shapeshifter on the trap, It was maxed out at six. By introducing himself into the trap, now making seven, it would allow one to step off, which is why he pushed her out right away. This would make sure the other five Shapeshifters were still trapped.
You were correct Vanessa, this episode is co-written by the same Kate Herron who worked on season 1 of Loki. Apparently after RTD made some very scathing comments about the LGBTQ+ representation in that show, he felt rather bad about it and called her to apologise. This led to them becoming good friends, and him asking her (and her writing partner Briony Redman) to write this particular episode. And clearly she took his initial comments to heart because she clearly went all out with the gay representation in this episode.
To be honest, "Rogue" wasn't my favourite episode from this season ("Boom" still holds that title), but it was a really fun period piece, and the chemistry between Ncuti and Jonathan was just delightful. I feel like this episode is the perfect demonstration of why this show is currently in dire need of new blood in the writer's room, because this episode felt like a real breath of fresh air after having basically every episode for the last four years come from one of the showrunners. With any luck we'll see Kate and Briony come back to write another episode next season, they have the potential to become this era's standout guest writers in my opinion
The throwback to The Girl in The Fireplace and and Voyage of the Damned was SO GOOD 💖🔥
Nuts to anyone who suddenly knows the word 'asexual' because all of a sudden it's gay... (yeah, we see you the moment we're reading 'nothing against gay people but...' in your sentence, stop playing pretend💀) It has been RTD's thing since 2005, there's no reason to be surprised. It is so ironic to me that some people still don't sit with 'change' when the show is the embodiment of 'change'.
"Times change, and so must I".
I must have missed a portion of them talking. When did they mention asexuality? I’m asexual and your comment is confusing. I can’t tell if you’re gatekeeping or not with the “all of a sudden it’s gay” bit because we’ve been around forever. The A never stood for ally.
@chaotic7cam They're referring to those yelling about how The Doctor is asexual when that never was a thing in regards to the character. Others just don't like that The Doctor kissed a guy, so they're using asexuality as a shield for their reasoning.
@@LatetotheParty Ohh, gotcha! Thanks for clearing that up. ^^
No problem. 💜💙
Had same thought. Have we found the next Captain Jack or River? or both?
They've got to bring Rogue back! I agree, they wouldn't do all that if they don't plan on it
Yes that Kate Heron, plus the choreography was by the man who does it in Bridgerton
"Don't throw away your shot," too funny.
I'm ready to have my heart broken when The Doctor finds Rogue at the wrong time instead of the story we got from River. Rogue's partner or direct villain Rogue? It would be an interesting hurdle.
I'm suprised no one caught the Richard E Grant doctor, that's like a pretty big canonisation
Playing Can't Get You Out of My Head has to have been a wink to the Astrid Romance (since Kylie Minogue played her)
Never watched Bridgerton, so I was super thrown by Bad Guy playing as well.
captain jack watching this saying:dude,you should come sooner😢
my theory is he will return and be this era's Captain Jack/River Song
@@TombRaiderSyd That's my guess too
@@TombRaiderSydmy thoughts too.
I'm confident he'll be back (😉 that was actually unintentional!) ... There were a couple of little things he said that must be seeds for later sprouting! He refers to getting a new boss. And said he had a companion who he lost at the end of a particular day. Just seems to be stories that we are to learn more about later. 😃
Richard E Grant was one of the projected doctors thats interesting
How did you see that from inside your Jack-in-the-Box? ;-)
they stated the trap could only contain 6? or something and him barging in might have overloaded the system for a second to allow the switch
That's a great point!
it also mentioned matter exchange. it seems you can switch with something of equal mass if you are quick about it
It's hilarious to me that literally every girl I've seen react to this episode started dancing to Can't Get You Out of My Head..hahaha, such a bop
When they cast Ncuti I joked that I hoped he would get to play the gayest doctor yet, and my prophecy has come true.
Wasn't Matt smith?
While matt smith had gay moments he wasnt nearly as gay as this doctor and i love it @@youknow227
These episodes have been more intriguing and exciting than fans realize. It's been a fantastic season.
no they havent. so far, this season has 1 good episode. The rest too much agenda, not enough actual doctor.
@@eolsunder the "agenda" is just lgbt rep, cry us a river
From this moment on, you are known as early to the party
And not too late for the dancing!
Compared to me. As we get it midnight Friday into Saturday. I’m asleep. So I watch I’m the morning. Eating porridge and loving it.
@@fayesouthall6604 cannot record for later?? I download using sky UK on Saturday when i get up, don't have to wait for timer recording in the evening..
I suspect many tubers will do videos hating on this episode but I thought it was done really well (my only complaint was the trap scenario) but yes another great episode.
And Vanessa's hair is gorgeous! ❤
"bookish and vapid" I felt seen
Jonathan used to date one of my old high school classmates, Gavin Creel. Completes my " # degrees of separation" arc with the Doctor
OMG I loved this episode!! ❤❤
Felt a bit like the Clockwork people in the Madame Du Pampadore episode with David Tennant.
Groff sending out some serious Capt Jack vibe really made this episode great.
Thanks, Robert! Thanks, Vanessa! ⏳ Yes, *Indira* *Varma* was in GAME OF THRONES as well as in OBI-WAN KENOBI. 🤩
Oh dear word, the anti-woke people are going to LOSE THEIR MINDS over this episode. As soon as I saw the kiss, forget it. I bet some story will come out tomorrow or Sunday that the BBC got "tons" (like, 12 right?) complaints of that kiss scene specifically. Oh, and the Doctor crying again, so woke am I right guys? I mean come on already. Sorry, just venting, I guess. I get frustrated knowing it's obviously coming and hey, RTD did tell everyone to get used to it LOL :)
And oh boy that teaser for next week, here it comes.
To be fair, the doctor shouldnt have any type of romantic interest. The worst thing new who did was increasingly bring that to his character. Rose and Eccleston werent too bad until the end, tennant was a bit insufferable in that aspect. Matt smith and capaldis at least threw an alien/timelord spin on it. With this though he just comes across as a human character and its a tad bland. Never a fan of what RTD portrayed the doctor as. He has the companions for that aspect, i rather see the doctor whos been ther, done all that and is now thousands of years old and has other things to do.
@@charg1nmalaz0r51 I understand that reasoning, but we are talking about a thousand of years old alien time traveler who's been married, has a kid...or two, and like hundreds of super close friends (that he never visits beyond anniversary specials lol) etc. etc. There's nothing to stop him from falling in love or having some sort of romantic thing with a guest character or companion.
All that being said, Tennant's Doctor was a bit over the top with it at times. Rose, I can get and I rather enjoyed it especially considering Doomsday etc. Martha was fine, in so much that she loved the Doctor and it wasn't remotely reciprocated (or even acknowledged until Martha left as a regular companion) and after that, it's mostly ok as you said. Matt Smith and Capaldi were mostly just....the Doctor (other than the rando River Song stuff) and I barely watched Witaker's Doctor (not because it sucked but I just stopped watching lol)
It was poorly written nonsense. The aliens were awful and I found Groff’s performance kind of flat.
To be honest, there is no such thing as anti-woke. Just people who view diversity as a way to cover up bad storytelling, a lack of originality and disliked being bossed around by a minority.
RTD said Dr. Who is not for kids in November last year. It’s now a vehicle for all of his wet dreams. I can’t vibe with this Doctor. He is too camp, too human and not really believable for me as a Time Lord. We all have our own favorites and Ncuti Gatwa’s portrayal isn’t what I want in the character. It’s fine that others like it and enjoy it but it’s got nothing to do with his skin colour or sexuality.
@@LordLOCur forgetting the French lady and the blonde from titanic there probably is more
Huge easter egg when we're seeing his former faces in that the Richard E Grant Scream of the Shalka alt 9th face is shown, so effectively now made canon. Madness (in a good way)
I'm suddenly thinking The Rogue is The One Who Waits
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😳
That would make him the villain!
I LOVED this episode definitely one of my favorites, and I ABSOLUTELY fell in love with the D&D moment
SHALKA DOCTOR CANON???
Yea I don’t think it is the Shalka doctor others are saying i think it the great intelligence as that’s who I think Susan twist actress is playing scattered across doctors timeline. I think this was dr Simeon who was entwined in doctors time line
It makes no sense I think RTD is just getting lazy and adding in fluff.
Definitely felt like a New Jack Harkness, and I don't know how I feel about that. But overall, I liked this episode. I assume they just pissed off so many conservative viewers -- at least the ones who aren't too busy thinking that a Black Doctor means no white people can watch the show anymore -- but... nothing of value is lost in that 😂
Was this my favorite episode of the season? No. But I liked it. Maybe I'd like it more if I cared about Bridgerton or the Victorian era at all 😅One of these days, the Doctor is going to have to truly grieve over everyone he's lost. I don't think he ever *really* did.
So many people have been complaining, this whole season, that "the Doctor is supposed to be asexual!" Like... I assume they started watching Nu Who when it hit Disney+, and before that stopped watching before 2005. Because the Doctor has had romantic feelings for multiple companions and secondary characters since 2005. It's not new; the only new part is that it's a male Doctor being attracted to men, and NOW these people complain. I wonder why NOW they do, when they haven't in the last 19 years? (He asked, fully knowing the answer...)
Madame de Pompadour, Astrid Peth, Rose Tyler, River Song, Joan Redfern. Hell, he even has a Granddaughter, so there was a partner of some kind before.
Saying he is A-sexual is just their own security blanket to protect themselves from The Doctors' true sexuality. Which is more than likey Pansexual. Because The Doctor loves all.
@@LatetotheParty True! Somehow it never occurred to me that "explain Susan, then" is the ultimate mic drop against these scared children 😂
Loved this very entertaining episode. Fun bits and scary bits. Be great to see Rogue again.
The Family of Blood, but with incognito geek owl things.
LOVE this episode! Great timing with a fun mystery / monster of the week. And The Doctor and Rogue.... you could feel the chemistry from space.
I am so looking forward to the Doctor finding Rogue again!
Honestly (agreeing with the majority here) these two are the best romance followed closely by River and the Doctor. I think for me because they are the only romances that didn't feel like there was a power imbalance.
It’s been a slow burn but Ncuti has officially taken the throne of my favorite Doctor. This episode was just too good.
Yes, it is THE Kate Herron of Loki guys.
Indira Varma from GOT has already appeared in the DW universe as Suzi from Torchwood.
You shoukd give that a go if you havent.
Did everyone miss that there was an extra Doctor in the holograms?
it's the shalka doctor, which means he's canon now and I am so happy
@@wesper-stan I had to actually rewind when the Shalka Doctor came up because for a moment I thought I must have misidentified someone. I wonder if this is supposed to retcon the Shalka Doctor into a future incarnation of the Doctor or supposed to suggest the timelines somehow crossed over?
My guess is it’s canonising him as a pre-Hartnell Doctor
@@wesper-stan It could also be the alternate 10th Doctor from Curse of the fatal death
@@mrcritical6751wouldn't make sense, he knew the Master.
Thank you for the reaction. Disney made a mess of season and episode numbers, though. First the soft reboot by calling it Season 1. Then listing the Christmas special as the 1st episode. Now we have people who call this episode S(eries)14E06, S(eries)14E07, S(eason)01E06 or S(eason)1E07. What a mess.
Yeah, the number system is totally a mess now. We just go by Wikipedia. They have their shit in the proper order.
She must have heard this a million times, make it a million and one. I love her hair. She is so beautiful
I think the rogue will come back in a season or two
The trap explanation seems simple enough. It could hold 5, he became the 6th so was able to push Ruby out. Also, they did not invent 'cushy', that's a common UK word.
By giving her the word "cushy" they just invented it earlier than history intended.
@@LatetotheParty Oh I see! Well, she didn't survive the episode, so I think history's safe!
4:09
What Billie Eilish song was used?
Bad Guy
mrs flood appears in every episode
Omg you should have seen my face when i saw jonathan groff. I've never sat up so fast, haha. Also ive never watched bridgerton i am planning on watching it but for some reason some shows that are that popular (and i used to get made fun of for liking period dramas aka jane austen) i'm never really keen on watching but also when i see stuff like this episode or bridgerton i always think oooh like jane austens novels lol
Am I the only one that got 1985 Prince or Morris Day vibes from The Doctor's look and vibe in this episode? The Chemistry was off.the.chain. I'm not in the LGBTQ community, but I absolutely Loved this episode. Very "classic" Doctor Who type episode but with modern adjustments. For all those who might complain about him enamored with a guy, did you have an issue with Rose? With the Woman in the Fireplace? The woman when the Doctor's psyche was kept in the pocket watch when he battled with The Family? How about that he has a Granddaughter dating all the way back to the First Doctor? If you didn't have issues with them, then your issue is that it's a guy, and as we've seen The Doctor is non-binary and can regenerate into male, female, or something undefined. Rogue is like the Jack Harkness for this Doctor, at least in terms of "vibes," and I hope that he returns. Wouldn't mind seeing him as a Companion or perhaps The Companion for Ncuti's final season for example. Very interesting character. The "bad guys" are ok, but beyond this one episode I'm not sure if we need to see them again. But yeah, this episode is a 10/10 from me.
Best bit was Richard E Grant's face in the scanning of the Dr
I've seen people complaining the kiss is "unnecessary" when it has actual plot function and pay off for the episode meanwhile this show has been full of unnecessary kisses since the revival so I'm sure you'll get over it... Unless of course there's something else about this one that bothers you 🤔
This was the first really proper episode of the era that I liked. Come S2, RTD should not write 99% of the season. At least when Chibnall did it in S13, all the episodes were really good, I don’t care what anyone else says. Congrats! Great episode and great reaction
Among all the Doctor's heads was Richard E Grant, who appeared as the embodiment of The Great Intelligence in two Matt Smith episodes. But why? Does this make Scream of the Shalka canon?
What is the name of Dance music?
Liber Tango
I loved this episode so much, the first fun one after three really heavy ones. ❤
I think this is family of blood meets the Agatha Christie episode
THANKS for this!!!!
"The Phantom Zone!" Yes, Vanessa! Why didn't *I* think of that???
"I will keep her safe." As River (and speaking of her, damn, Fifteen, aren't you *married?* ) said, "Rule One...." :)
Again, RTD does not care about what anyone says anymore. An important position for a free artist to take!
So I guess we now know what Ncuti will do before he regenerates...
wellll, search for 'doctors wife' and you will get many views on that :)
Married?? well what do you do when she dies?? River Song died in The Library, saving the people trapped in its computer.
@@bobm4378 Yeah, you're right.... :) But she seemed to be married to *so many* Doctors...And a 24-year-"last" night leaves a lot of wiggle room to still show up.... :) #RIPBenPotter #RIPComicstorian
@@IsiahBradley :) :) yeah, as she puts her 'tardis book' down and says 'spoilers!!!' :D :D
@@bobm4378 :)
So I didn’t think he was going to be a Captain Jack recast however watching this episode, He could be a younger Jack, before he had his memories stolen by the time agency. So a prequel to meeting 9th Doctor is my guess!
He's literally not. Firstly, they have a completely different personality. Secondly, why wouldn't Jack recognize the 9th Doctor?
I'll have to come back after I watch the episode!
Have fun!
was that Richard grant as a doctor face? 4th face i think in the ship?
Generally I prefer the doctor not being interested in romance (especially with their companion like rose) but this was a really good episode and it’s fun to watch so I don’t mind it
My little gay heart was SOOOO filled by this episode 🥺
The Doctor has Ruby back... and has Ruby's back...
Love your reactions to this series :D
I'm hoping Rouge is our new Jack Harkness, just dont turn him into a big head... lol
This episode simply was a Doctor who episode.
Every other episode of the season has been black mirror for some reason.
I like the episode it's GOOD
I wonder if Rogue knows Captain Jack?
Who was she in game of thrones?
Ellaria Sand
I travelled for a while with someone. They left. Hmmm….A nod to Cptn Jack?
I LOVE THE GAYNESS IT WARMS MY HEART
Kristoff in Bridgerton?
Please, please do reactions to "Dead boys detectives"! ♥♥♥
The Bridgerton tone is good but the gay relationship looks forced for the actors sake and works over continuity from the doctor and i didnt like it. He shouldnt all the sudden be that way after regenerating even if the actor is gay it shouldnt affect how the season and show is written. Dont like this episode.
And if you were scandalised by the gay element, 1813 phoned - they want their attitude back.
The way it was played...Either Captain Jack...Or River playing Captain Jack
Or... crazy theory. A new character. Rogue is literally like neither River or Jack.
Rouge replaces Jack....🤔
I'm so over the shock that 2 men are kissing on tv. who cares? why does it even matter anymore? 2 people whose characters were obviously very attracted to each other kissed. why all the backlash that it's woke? I'm just over it & anyone upset by it. Also did they never see Jack Harkness in this show before? did they not see Glee? Jonathan Groff was on that show more than a decade ago. geez ppl really need to just get over it already.
Great catch Vanessa, with the Billie Eilish song. I don't watch Bridgerton and thought I was losing my mind when I heard it. Then when I heard Lady Gaga song later in episode, I was like oh now I'm sure that was Bad Guy. Is it bad I wanted Rogue to push the button and send Ruby away so they could go on adventures together and find her? Not sure why Doctor was like I don't even know Rogue's name. He should be snooping thru everything on his ship! has to be all kinds of info about him on it, instead of hiding it behind the moon. I'm sure we'll see Rogue again, hopefully not a few doctors from now either, cause the chemistry was amazing. I think some of the attraction was between Jonathan & Ncuti could be real, they apparently went to see Beyonce concert together with a couple of friends.
Is rogue river?
Honestly, we think the River story is over. Stratch that, we think the River story SHOULD be over.
No, River used up all her remaining regenerations to save the Doctor
Agreed, River's story is complete nothing to add there. I want to believe that Rogue is a much younger Jack pre-memory wipe.
@@river8659 ooh that's an interesting concept/idea. My mind kinda went to someone who Jack lost/who lost Jack (cause we know from Ianto that Jack might be a flirt but he can love deeply too). Either way, I hope he gets revisited.
@@writeonshell
My brain immediately went to yes, he lost his brother and his family (Torchwood I think the episode was "Adam"). It feels like a very RTD thing to do after all this time to finally tell us about Jack's missing years and a way to bring him back without messing up the past. I'm sure I'm wrong but I love the idea.
I hope that he isn’t dead they will find him, but it will be either a new doctor or a new episode, but I hope they just don’t forget him and leave him as dead in this episode. I hope he does return and he and the other one go on adventures together. Like ruby
They keep kiling suzie... again
I can’t do it anymore. They have destroyed The Doctor. This season has been an absolute disaster. Just finished “Rogue”. Spoiler alert! The Doctor has gone from charming, brilliant, resourceful and compassionate to randy, selfish and hypersexual. I don’t care if The Doctor is male or female, it doesn’t matter what color The Doctor is, and The Doctor’s complex and ambiguous sexual orientation has been danced around before but with much more grace and subtlety. What we have now is nothing but a flamboyant, horny space traveler who’s just trolling to hook up. Never before have I seen The Doctor so desperately pursue an individual trying to entice them to become his companion simply because “they’re hot.” The Doctor has become far too shallow and far too focused on his own sexual desires. There’s been so much emphasis on how they’ve changed the nature of The Doctor that they’ve lost touch with everything that WAS The Doctor. I’m saddened, even disgusted, that the overemphasis on DEI has led to grossly stereotypical portrayals of gay men as greedy, oversexed fops who will flaunt their sexuality just to make a scene and I can’t escape the feeling that the writers and show runners and just rubbing our noses in the fact that “The Doctor is now a horny, black, gay man!” without just letting him be. I cannot overstate my disappointment.
Don't worry your not alone in that. This is not "Dr. Who".
Picture the same episode but with Rogue as female. What would the Doctor's actions look like? Wrong, right? This is just NOT Doctor behavior. Since when does the Doctor get all flirty with ANYONE, especially once a danger has been identified?
And then, when you consider that Jodie Whittaker’s Doctor does NOT kiss Yaz after so much time spent with her, yet Ncuti’s Doctor kisses Rogue after knowing him for about 20 minutes, there’s a shift in the Doctor’s mindset that is not likeable. Not that it's gay -- but that it's selfish and out of character. He cares more about his own fun than saving others -- and that is NOT a trait any Doctor ought to be having.
Never a fan of the Doctor having a love life -- not Rose; not River -- but this was still a great episode. Rogue was a fun character. I'd even enjoy a Rogue spinoff. Chuldur were cool.
Dialogue was putting me off like crazy and the chulders themselves are pretty forgettable. Plus rogue’s character is very whatever… I don’t like when the doctor gets into relationships (really don’t like 10 and rose imo so overrated) and so I do not buy for one moment that this dude he’s just met has suddenly “changed his life forever” which is what Russel had been saying about the character. Didn’t feel anything bout his sacrifice like “oh no this is so sad” or “thank god he’s gone” I was just like “okay…” this season for me just has a problem of having characters I’m meant to care about, like Mundy in boom, Lindy in D&B (before the ending reveal), and now Rogue.
Also I can tolerate some silliness and camp, like the goblins from the Christmas special, but this episode felt like they were being too serious with the whole cosplaying alien bird stuff. Chulders are gonna be very forgettable for me.
There were some cool moments, but I was getting pretty bored halfway through then only really started paying attention again when ruby was “killed”. 5/10 for me, very mid.
Susie!
Lets goooo
What a load of crap. A new low from the BBC.
Time lord diamond?
Oh dear. Again, PLEASE stop mispronouncing Ncuti's name. It's got a T in it, not a D, so say the T sound. Hard for Americans who pronounce a D sound in the word 'water' but he's was born in Rwanda, not Arizona, so please respect that and stop saying 'Shoody'.
He wouldn't care. You shouldn't either.
@@LatetotheParty His mother even cared enough to correct him about how he pronounced his name when he was an adult so perhaps we should care too.