I did some toying around with the idea with a friend and the result was impressively effective I can't begin to imagine what an expert putting time and thought into it would come up with
A person in this type of armor suddenly getting sent back in time would be quite hilarious. No good repair ability but it would hold up for a battle or two. Could make for a fun time😁.
Yess! Join the ProGauntlet hype :p I have them for a couple months now, used them in the dutch national championships for longsword all the way up to and including the finals; safe to say they can withstand A LOT. However they are not invulnerable ofc. I have mine in the process of being repared as during a 7 hour HEMA demo of continually on and off sparring, one of the attachment points for the bands inbetween the thumb and pointy finger broke, and thus the thumb isnt held in place with a band anymore. Theyre amazing gloves, don’t ever wanna go back! Just be sure to have a spare set of gloves in case something comes up that you cant fix on the spot. But that doesnt come up often, and all gloves can fail… believe me, I broke/cut someones spes heavies 2.0 in half with a normal federschwert during sparring… Also, skall, get that finger fixed that pops out, a friend of mine had the same issue, it falls under warranty, and if you grapple it might pop out when grabbing a sword or smth (this can always happen btw, just, shouldnt happen easily, so be careful of that), and if your then hit inbetween the gaps, or the finger ‘locks’ because you cant stretch it back, that can be potentially dangerous I guess…
This is the first positive review I’ve heard of them. I heard that they are comfy and protective but fall apart often. You really don’t want your glove to fail mid sparring, especially that probably you wont even notice until a bit later.
It's good to spar without protection sometimes in anything. It adds a new level of combat anxiety and threat that any combatant needs to learn to control are conquer. There's a reason why military will eventually graduate to throwing real ammunition towards recruits in cover in training. I know from experience that it is very important to get used to your life being in danger if you are going to be training any real arts of deadly combat. Training knowing you are 100% safe from harm is not sufficient enough. Training with your own life at risk is very important and helps the warrior to understand and respect the fact that they are learning the art of killing and possibly being killed.
Hello, just as a quick note, a french HEMA youtuber made a 6 month usage video, he said that there are durability issues on those. The stripes that conect the fingers to the gauntlet tend to break very easily he had to change them before 6 month.
I can even think of them in a reenactment situation. They look awesome and obviously are a lot better than most other gauntlets. In Germany, in every medieval club where swordplay is a thing, the base of protective equipment everybody needs is a good gambeson, head protection and really good and thick gloves. (hockey gloves are the ones mostly in use) Even when doing show fights on fairs, hand protection is more important than looks and authenticity. These seem to be really good. Hopefully, they will be available in Europe
I wonder how will it fare with a real accented longsword's hit. I have very well crafted plastic mitten gloves (sort of like Spes), which offers great protection and dispersion of impact, but even with those and normal working gloves underneath, some hard hits do REALLY feel. Can't imagine catching those on separate fingers
it´s fun to see at 5:45 that the right stance makes the opponment actually hesitant to make a move. loved the head shake and "no", like "don´t try it, i got the high ground" scenario :p
We have a guard in Italian longsword where the sword is held in front of you, with the point near the ground. It is capable of a surprisingly powerful upwards cut, and usually causes a hesitation to charge in, particularly in male opponents.
@@kodain Porta di ferro mezzana was especially good at delivering the desired effect. Dente di cenghiaro was a bit better at baiting, unless your opponent was familiar with it. Question: For the German tradition, does Alber refer to all low guards or is it more of a category containing other guards? Never heard much about German low guards. The people I've met seem very happy with their high guards.
@@peterschack570 If I'm to borrow from Meyer, he divided the major guards into four: Ochs, Pflug, Alber, and Tag (Ox, Plough, Fool, and Day). Ochs would be similar to Posta di Finestra, Pflug is ehm... imagine Posta Breve except sword is held more to the side. Alber we discussed above, and finally Tag, which is Posta di Falcone. From Ochs there are sub-guards: Schlüssel (key), Hangetort (hanging guard), and Einhorn (unicorn). From Pflug there is Eisenport (iron gate) and Langort (Posta Longa). From Alber there is Wechsel (switch?), Nebenhut (side guard), and Schrankhut (cupboard guard? Not sure on that one). Finally, from Tag there is Kron, Mittelhut (Middle guard) and Zornhut (Posta di Donna). I haven't studied much of Meyer, so I'm mostly just posting what I can find online. Low guards are indeed not as common as the high ones, and I think that's because German fencing has a more aggressive doctrine, whereas the Iberian is more reactive and looks more for reads and counters.
He's just playing around, looked like the second sword was longer than you'd want, that's why sword and dagger is a thing. If you have two medium length swords or a long and medium, you have to do a lot to keep them from tangling up with each other and it limits your mobility because you can't close distance quickly for parries and thusts.
The light sparring was very impressive, Skall. Very nice movements and parries. Would love to see more of those if possible for different weapon types and styles if possible. This was a fun video.
Just got mine from Fait d'Armes....they had 2 in stock when I looked them up....ordered mine....took less than a week to get it...yep, expensive, but virtually no wait. Talked to other American vendors and they all said that the wait was months long (when they bothered to answer at all). They are damn beautiful - and, a little stiff....and heavier than I thought they'd be...and, I'm glad that this review noted that they "broke in" a bit and loosened up...I'm thinking that these things are going to really kick ass. Less mobility than the lacrosse gloves that I've been using (they offer sub-par protection - plus, they look manky)......but, as they break in (and i get used to the weight, etc), these gloves are going to rock. Thanks for the review...
Crazy timing that you decided to post this now while I've been looking around for good sparring gauntlets. I've messed around with some...less ideal options, also have some actual gauntlets but wanted something a bit better (the enclosed fingers). Thanks for bringing these to my attention!
Don't put all your money into these, unless you already have solid gloves for backup, if I only had this over the past year, I'd be out of the fight almost every session
Maybe texture the inside with a branded texture similar to sneaker soles. So if someone checks the weapons for fingerprints, they'd see the words "Pro Gauntlet L".
Great to see these finally available and in action, I remember the original teasers for them way back. They look amazing, too! Great first impressions video.
Internal padding is tricky. It can be made out of such mushy soft foam or gel that it insulates you from pretty much all sensation, but that hurts your control too. If you dial back the cushioning a bit to allow for more sensation of grip pressure, then you open yourself up to more sensation of pain too. There's a similar issue in running shoe midsole materials. I think it would be advisable to alternate practices in your best mittens or gloves like these. Recognize the differences in sensation between them when doing the same moves. Identify whether your fighting style needs more protection (mitts) or more sensation (these gloves). And choose accordingly.
My final review will be coming soon. On to testing a second pair...they have many flaws, and mine, plus other people I train with are falling apart...and too difficult to fix yourself. The fingers slide out often, and mind fit correctly. They move so much, that I have wrapped the tips with hockey tape to assist keeping them in. Medium would be a bit small overall, but lock the fingers in a bit more for me... I think, sort of take the tighter fit to lock the fingers I am thinking...? The knucks problem you displayed is not just on your glove, they slip out often, happens on both gloves that I have tested/own. It happens so often now, I am either putting my fingers back into the tips or fixing the knuckles every 5 or so passes. They are ok with grappling, but that top guard has a back edge that snags on everything when you try and pull your hand out of any sort of grapple or tight spot. The cuff is protective and works, but does not work with any of my forearm guards. I leave the forearm fastening open, so it just flops around to give enough space for my forearm guards/coat. With a smaller guard, like a destroyer Mod's forearm guard, they work well. Main strong point on theses is the mobility. I like them, and use them still, but I need to be real about them. Anyhow, a few more training and sparring sessions and I that will be enough time for a follow up review on my end.
@Skallagrim A french HEMA youtuber made 2 videos about thoses gloves. I'll try to summarize it and by advance sorry for my English. The first time he got his hands on and after 1 year of use. In the first video during a sparring his opponent managed to (accidently) trust his sword between the protection on the back of the hand and that made all part fall off. On the second video he explains that before the 1 year mark he had to send his gloves back to the compagny and they were replaced because they were too damaged. For him the issue is that lots of parts that supposed to keep the gauntlet together (like below the fingers) are really too fragile and can't handle too many use. He also speaks about an issue he had during a sparing, his opponent managed to hit again on a weak spot of the gauntlet and really hurted his hands for week (right on the the knuckle plate for the pinky). He also says during his video that one of the "major" issue with those gauntlet is considering the gauntlet is made with multiple small parts, if you have a problem it's really hard to solve it by yourself. His youtube channel his named "Entrer en Lice" if you want to take a look by yourself. And while I'm at it, thanks a lot for your work I'm really thankfull for all your work and I would love to support your channel if I could.
Thanks to you, i saved money for half a year and got mine today, love them! I am a tall guy with large, but not fat hands, they are tight, but not too tight. Cant wait to try them in the next HEMA training. Also thanks to you, i joined a hema club a year ago and lost 30kg since then B)
These look cool. They remind me of the Garleans from Final Fantasy 14. Just the way it blends modern types of materials and design into armor for using a sword.
We have a pair of these at our club with one of our most experienced members. Long story short, he doesn't use them. The problem isn't the protection or materials. its the connecting bands and pieces that break during even light use and the complexity of replacing those pieces. We all agree that they feel great to move in and are very protective, albeit slightly heavier than other options, but none of us could see using them in an competitive setting without fear of a malfunction. I loved them when they first came out but after seeing his experiences with them (most of the time spent at the bench repairing them and not actually sparring) I'm probably going to wait for a second iteration. In the meantime, we've had several members adopt the SG Infinities and those have worked awesome. I really wanna see PG get this right but until they come up with a solution for the durability I'll be staying away and would advise others too as well.
Just send a link to a friend, said someone has stolen Batmans gauntlets. Then wachting further you just mention the Dark Knight. I love you Skall, never change.
Excellent! I've been mildly following the attemtps to get good HEMA safety equipment and it seems that gauntlets have so far been one of the harted things to get to work.
A lot of people don't like the idea of HEMA turning into a mainstream sport, since a sportified version could take over and largely replace clubs trying to stay more true to history.
@@InSanic13 I could care less about the historical side of things but becoming a "sport" means codifying a set of rules which usually means that it becomes more of a game than a martial art. We already have enough problems with people doubling in the interest of chasing higher point targets which just leads to shitty fencing. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for more people to learn and compete but there's always trade offs when it comes to martial arts and "sports". There has to be, in the interest of safety.
I submitted my measurements when they were gathering information for their Small size design and I've been waiting with bated breath ever since. Glad to hear they're worth the wait!
Thank you for the video Skall, have slowly been buying the gear I need to practice Hema. Ordering a pair of these at a later date, but till then I am working with crab hands. Excellent video, and appreciate the links to where to but these at
Just watched your review and rewatched Deluge fight review you did. Both great. In Deluge fight dialog between fighters is very important. At one point Col. Wołodyjowski says to Kmicic “you are flailing”. One of favourite movies of my youth. Keep up the good work.
Back in my stick fighting days I really wanted something like these gloves for our silly shenanigans. And being honest, they aren't even that much more expensive than decent headwear, so that wasn't an issue. So far I'm really curious about their longevity because IIRC the durability of the threads they use to put a glove's elements together was one of the main challenges when these were designed and tested.
11:43 thats why i need gauntlets/gloves to protect my thumb, cause i got hit TWICE in the thumb, right on the back of it where the fingernail is, and it hurts like absolute *FRESH HELL*, and mind you i was using standard SPES lobster gloves. great review by the way!
very functional AND fashionable. hard to get right but it looks like the makers pulled it off. props to them and you skall. hope these things earn a long history of keeping your fingers in tact
Finally!! I've been waiting for those gauntlets to be available!! Good to see the sparring and was bad ass to see you duel wielding!!! Love the videos brother!!
Thanks for the in-depth and informative review! I'd love to see a follow-up video once you've been using them for longer, to get a sense of how they hold up over time.
Totally unrelated to anything, but a friend of mine was at a pirate fest once. They and one of the bar maidens had a duel, but communication was sadly lacking. They may have won, but nobody mentioned anything about live steel. Everything wound up ok, though, and they got a badass scar just across the lowest part of the ribcage. Was a lot of fun many a drunken night. Awesome gauntlets, though.
@@spy00at aside from weight. the material and equipment cost needed to switch from the polymer they are using to a metal filament printer would be insane. especially since realistically it's a niche product. metal printing also takes a lot longer to finish and the software available isn't as user-friendly as the big three for plastic 3d printing. perhaps if the sales for the ProGaunlet exceed expectations then maybe ProGauntlet v2 or v3 might be a metal variant but as Skall said in the video, if you're needing more protection for sparring then your sparring partners are doing something wrong.
Wow this is so much different opinion than the AHF review. As I recall they said they are so heavy it had big impact on their fighting ability. Next, the plastic finger tips on the inside prevented "feeling" the sword grip like in other gloves, and finally - the rubber bands holding everything together just kept snapping or getting cut off with swords... Did Progauntlet improve the gloves or... What's happening here?
Those gauntlets of yours look really good. The only better test I can think of is to actively use them to block more. Also, I've personally found that one handed sword wielding against two handed, is that it is best to use your wrist mobility to your advantage. When blocking a strike, use the flat of your blade to catch the blow. When allowing your blade to drop twords the ground, use the weight of the blade and it's center of balance as the untouched focal point, that way, all you are doing is guiding it, rather than doing all the work yourself, even if it means lifting the blade from your side, with the point still twords the ground, and using the incoming blade to start the momentum of the return volley while stepping into your strike around the one you just blocked and redirected away from you. Sorry for my tactical and strategic mindset running on. I may be a complete newbie, but I've still got some natural talents might be useful right?
When I learn how to smith I am buying a pair of those and making 1095 straw temper spring steel covers for each piece lol and maybe upgrading the outer portion of plether on the palm to a good ruber grip.
get some silicon caulk and put small dots on the gloves for better grip. it won't last over time, but you can replace the dots easy enough. how good this will be will be a function of your precision caulking skills.
Even though I don't participate in this sport, I checked out the price and it is actually very reasonable. You'll pay around 100 for a decent pair of motorcycle gloves, so 400 for something of this quality and great design is well worth it. I was expecting them to be more.
Imagine a full suit of armour done with this much care and research and today materials.
I imagen a sort of medival Iron Man
Medival only because no automatic weapons, just a sword (and a shield).
I did some toying around with the idea with a friend and the result was impressively effective I can't begin to imagine what an expert putting time and thought into it would come up with
A person in this type of armor suddenly getting sent back in time would be quite hilarious. No good repair ability but it would hold up for a battle or two. Could make for a fun time😁.
@@gmanbo imagine accidentally killing your grangrangrangrangrangranfather.
i would came from joy to see it
I would be interested to see how they perform in grappling, possibly hand to hand as well.
I'd like to see them box with them... it is for science, so it's reasonable.
Like knight style grappling like what it is like wearing armor and wielding weapons? But the grappling that might happen?
@@AetigmaFacade that was my first thought. Then I wondered about modern combat/fighting.
Everybody chilling until Bartholomew shows up to the fight with gauntlets
@@Sandro234 Que Doom Music
Yess! Join the ProGauntlet hype :p
I have them for a couple months now, used them in the dutch national championships for longsword all the way up to and including the finals; safe to say they can withstand A LOT. However they are not invulnerable ofc. I have mine in the process of being repared as during a 7 hour HEMA demo of continually on and off sparring, one of the attachment points for the bands inbetween the thumb and pointy finger broke, and thus the thumb isnt held in place with a band anymore. Theyre amazing gloves, don’t ever wanna go back! Just be sure to have a spare set of gloves in case something comes up that you cant fix on the spot. But that doesnt come up often, and all gloves can fail… believe me, I broke/cut someones spes heavies 2.0 in half with a normal federschwert during sparring…
Also, skall, get that finger fixed that pops out, a friend of mine had the same issue, it falls under warranty, and if you grapple it might pop out when grabbing a sword or smth (this can always happen btw, just, shouldnt happen easily, so be careful of that), and if your then hit inbetween the gaps, or the finger ‘locks’ because you cant stretch it back, that can be potentially dangerous I guess…
Competition incoming >:D then there will be even better gloves >:D
This is the first positive review I’ve heard of them. I heard that they are comfy and protective but fall apart often. You really don’t want your glove to fail mid sparring, especially that probably you wont even notice until a bit later.
I think that is precisely the reason he mentioned in the video that this is just first impressions , not a review at 08:09
Last time I was this early we were still making pommel jokes
When did we stop ?
At least we ended those rightly
Did we end the meme rightly?
@@sebastianriz4703 We pommeled it into the ground.
Wait, we stopped doing that?
the maskless sparring was REALLY freaking me out ngl
It should. :)
@@Skallagrim So don´t :/
Showing off their beards.
@@comradebork fair point, i shall never wear any sort of mask again as well
It's good to spar without protection sometimes in anything. It adds a new level of combat anxiety and threat that any combatant needs to learn to control are conquer. There's a reason why military will eventually graduate to throwing real ammunition towards recruits in cover in training. I know from experience that it is very important to get used to your life being in danger if you are going to be training any real arts of deadly combat. Training knowing you are 100% safe from harm is not sufficient enough. Training with your own life at risk is very important and helps the warrior to understand and respect the fact that they are learning the art of killing and possibly being killed.
They also look kinda like the Doomguy armor gloves.
Hah, yeah... they kinda do.
Hello, just as a quick note, a french HEMA youtuber made a 6 month usage video, he said that there are durability issues on those. The stripes that conect the fingers to the gauntlet tend to break very easily he had to change them before 6 month.
5:35 My brain went straight to "These fit almost like.. *a glove* " :D
Ditto
I can even think of them in a reenactment situation. They look awesome and obviously are a lot better than most other gauntlets.
In Germany, in every medieval club where swordplay is a thing, the base of protective equipment everybody needs is a good gambeson, head protection and really good and thick gloves. (hockey gloves are the ones mostly in use)
Even when doing show fights on fairs, hand protection is more important than looks and authenticity.
These seem to be really good. Hopefully, they will be available in Europe
They're from the Netherlands which means it isn't just available in Europe it also means no extra import taxes for any EU countries
I'm German too and I want to learn HEMA but I can't find any club yet :(
Research the manuscripts and find a friend or two
I wonder how will it fare with a real accented longsword's hit.
I have very well crafted plastic mitten gloves (sort of like Spes), which offers great protection and dispersion of impact, but even with those and normal working gloves underneath, some hard hits do REALLY feel.
Can't imagine catching those on separate fingers
Feel is ok, until something breaks
*Edited typo
it´s fun to see at 5:45 that the right stance makes the opponment actually hesitant to make a move.
loved the head shake and "no", like "don´t try it, i got the high ground" scenario :p
The shake and no was more a 'no, I won't fall for your feints'
We have a guard in Italian longsword where the sword is held in front of you, with the point near the ground. It is capable of a surprisingly powerful upwards cut, and usually causes a hesitation to charge in, particularly in male opponents.
@@peterschack570 Porta di ferro mezzana and dente di cenghiaro? In the German tradition they would both fall under Alber, the low guards.
@@kodain Porta di ferro mezzana was especially good at delivering the desired effect. Dente di cenghiaro was a bit better at baiting, unless your opponent was familiar with it.
Question: For the German tradition, does Alber refer to all low guards or is it more of a category containing other guards? Never heard much about German low guards. The people I've met seem very happy with their high guards.
@@peterschack570 If I'm to borrow from Meyer, he divided the major guards into four: Ochs, Pflug, Alber, and Tag (Ox, Plough, Fool, and Day). Ochs would be similar to Posta di Finestra, Pflug is ehm... imagine Posta Breve except sword is held more to the side. Alber we discussed above, and finally Tag, which is Posta di Falcone.
From Ochs there are sub-guards: Schlüssel (key), Hangetort (hanging guard), and Einhorn (unicorn). From Pflug there is Eisenport (iron gate) and Langort (Posta Longa). From Alber there is Wechsel (switch?), Nebenhut (side guard), and Schrankhut (cupboard guard? Not sure on that one). Finally, from Tag there is Kron, Mittelhut (Middle guard) and Zornhut (Posta di Donna).
I haven't studied much of Meyer, so I'm mostly just posting what I can find online. Low guards are indeed not as common as the high ones, and I think that's because German fencing has a more aggressive doctrine, whereas the Iberian is more reactive and looks more for reads and counters.
Nice dual wielding btw, wonder if we'll get to see more of it 🤔
I would bet probably
He's just playing around, looked like the second sword was longer than you'd want, that's why sword and dagger is a thing. If you have two medium length swords or a long and medium, you have to do a lot to keep them from tangling up with each other and it limits your mobility because you can't close distance quickly for parries and thusts.
Musashi Skallagrim POG
The light sparring was very impressive, Skall. Very nice movements and parries. Would love to see more of those if possible for different weapon types and styles if possible. This was a fun video.
Just got mine from Fait d'Armes....they had 2 in stock when I looked them up....ordered mine....took less than a week to get it...yep, expensive, but virtually no wait. Talked to other American vendors and they all said that the wait was months long (when they bothered to answer at all). They are damn beautiful - and, a little stiff....and heavier than I thought they'd be...and, I'm glad that this review noted that they "broke in" a bit and loosened up...I'm thinking that these things are going to really kick ass. Less mobility than the lacrosse gloves that I've been using (they offer sub-par protection - plus, they look manky)......but, as they break in (and i get used to the weight, etc), these gloves are going to rock. Thanks for the review...
Crazy timing that you decided to post this now while I've been looking around for good sparring gauntlets.
I've messed around with some...less ideal options, also have some actual gauntlets but wanted something a bit better (the enclosed fingers).
Thanks for bringing these to my attention!
Don't put all your money into these, unless you already have solid gloves for backup, if I only had this over the past year, I'd be out of the fight almost every session
For the traction, you could always scuff them with sandpaper or whatever. And that'll also just naturally happen as you use them.
I was thinking beeswax, if it will bind with the material traction would no longer be an issue
Maybe texture the inside with a branded texture similar to sneaker soles. So if someone checks the weapons for fingerprints, they'd see the words "Pro Gauntlet L".
Great review! The red haze around the edges of the screen when your buddy "wounded" you was a nice touch.
Aesthetically, these things would be right at home on a Star Wars costume.
As soon as I saw them I was plotting on it.
Or batman
They look a lot like master chief's gloves in halo 4
@@SaltyAndroid was thinking the same thing, after hearing his “Batman” reference.
cant believe these finally came out. I remember years ago you were talking about them
Remember those high impact electronic hema suits of armour everyone was talking about 10 years ago?
Great to see these finally available and in action, I remember the original teasers for them way back. They look amazing, too! Great first impressions video.
Internal padding is tricky. It can be made out of such mushy soft foam or gel that it insulates you from pretty much all sensation, but that hurts your control too. If you dial back the cushioning a bit to allow for more sensation of grip pressure, then you open yourself up to more sensation of pain too. There's a similar issue in running shoe midsole materials.
I think it would be advisable to alternate practices in your best mittens or gloves like these. Recognize the differences in sensation between them when doing the same moves. Identify whether your fighting style needs more protection (mitts) or more sensation (these gloves). And choose accordingly.
Can they absorb a hit to the palm from a BlasTech Industries DL-44? They look like they should be able to.
Darth Vader is breathing heavily.
@@maccurtis730 Well, that's kind of his thing...
Nice to now skall is still at an age where he can enjoy some light free-play
I LOVE the first person view around 6:30 minutes. Soooo cool!!
My final review will be coming soon. On to testing a second pair...they have many flaws, and mine, plus other people I train with are falling apart...and too difficult to fix yourself. The fingers slide out often, and mind fit correctly. They move so much, that I have wrapped the tips with hockey tape to assist keeping them in. Medium would be a bit small overall, but lock the fingers in a bit more for me... I think, sort of take the tighter fit to lock the fingers I am thinking...? The knucks problem you displayed is not just on your glove, they slip out often, happens on both gloves that I have tested/own. It happens so often now, I am either putting my fingers back into the tips or fixing the knuckles every 5 or so passes.
They are ok with grappling, but that top guard has a back edge that snags on everything when you try and pull your hand out of any sort of grapple or tight spot. The cuff is protective and works, but does not work with any of my forearm guards. I leave the forearm fastening open, so it just flops around to give enough space for my forearm guards/coat. With a smaller guard, like a destroyer Mod's forearm guard, they work well.
Main strong point on theses is the mobility. I like them, and use them still, but I need to be real about them.
Anyhow, a few more training and sparring sessions and I that will be enough time for a follow up review on my end.
6:00 look at the guy in the back running towards the sounds of clashing steel :D
I just ordered some as they opened their Medium size, here’s hoping!
Those things look bad ass for sure👍🏻
Seem to have very high functionality points as well. Cool vid dude 🤙🏻
@Skallagrim
A french HEMA youtuber made 2 videos about thoses gloves. I'll try to summarize it and by advance sorry for my English.
The first time he got his hands on and after 1 year of use. In the first video during a sparring his opponent managed to (accidently) trust his sword between the protection on the back of the hand and that made all part fall off.
On the second video he explains that before the 1 year mark he had to send his gloves back to the compagny and they were replaced because they were too damaged. For him the issue is that lots of parts that supposed to keep the gauntlet together (like below the fingers) are really too fragile and can't handle too many use. He also speaks about an issue he had during a sparing, his opponent managed to hit again on a weak spot of the gauntlet and really hurted his hands for week (right on the the knuckle plate for the pinky). He also says during his video that one of the "major" issue with those gauntlet is considering the gauntlet is made with multiple small parts, if you have a problem it's really hard to solve it by yourself.
His youtube channel his named "Entrer en Lice" if you want to take a look by yourself.
And while I'm at it, thanks a lot for your work I'm really thankfull for all your work and I would love to support your channel if I could.
The first person view starting at 6:05 feels like I am watching a video game, like Kingdom Come or something. That was so cool
One strike you did not test was if a thrust could get between the gauntlet and the grip/pommel, and strike the heel of the palm or the wrist.
Wow! Glad to see Mr. Great Beard again! Say hello to him =)
Thanks for video!
Thanks to you, i saved money for half a year and got mine today, love them! I am a tall guy with large, but not fat hands, they are tight, but not too tight. Cant wait to try them in the next HEMA training. Also thanks to you, i joined a hema club a year ago and lost 30kg since then B)
this is so awesome seeing the pov view as well, what a great idea.
These look cool. They remind me of the Garleans from Final Fantasy 14. Just the way it blends modern types of materials and design into armor for using a sword.
Hey! A fellow XIV player!
Beautiful tests. Thank you for this living archaeology.
We have a pair of these at our club with one of our most experienced members. Long story short, he doesn't use them. The problem isn't the protection or materials. its the connecting bands and pieces that break during even light use and the complexity of replacing those pieces. We all agree that they feel great to move in and are very protective, albeit slightly heavier than other options, but none of us could see using them in an competitive setting without fear of a malfunction. I loved them when they first came out but after seeing his experiences with them (most of the time spent at the bench repairing them and not actually sparring) I'm probably going to wait for a second iteration. In the meantime, we've had several members adopt the SG Infinities and those have worked awesome.
I really wanna see PG get this right but until they come up with a solution for the durability I'll be staying away and would advise others too as well.
Just send a link to a friend, said someone has stolen Batmans gauntlets.
Then wachting further you just mention the Dark Knight.
I love you Skall, never change.
The POV shots with the effects are so good 👍
Thank you. Very interested in these. Definitely need more than rancher-type leather gloves with my sabre.
Excellent! I've been mildly following the attemtps to get good HEMA safety equipment and it seems that gauntlets have so far been one of the harted things to get to work.
I never really noticed how much cooler swordfighting sounds than fencing
I wonder if some HEMA could show up in the olympics
A lot of people don't like the idea of HEMA turning into a mainstream sport, since a sportified version could take over and largely replace clubs trying to stay more true to history.
@@InSanic13 On the other hand, HEMA reaching a larger audience would be a good thing.
@@InSanic13 I could care less about the historical side of things but becoming a "sport" means codifying a set of rules which usually means that it becomes more of a game than a martial art. We already have enough problems with people doubling in the interest of chasing higher point targets which just leads to shitty fencing.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love for more people to learn and compete but there's always trade offs when it comes to martial arts and "sports". There has to be, in the interest of safety.
While protection is obviously way more important than aesthetics can we just take a moment to appreciate how friggin cool these things look.
Been watching for a review on these since I saw them years ago.
I submitted my measurements when they were gathering information for their Small size design and I've been waiting with bated breath ever since. Glad to hear they're worth the wait!
Thank you for the video Skall, have slowly been buying the gear I need to practice Hema. Ordering a pair of these at a later date, but till then I am working with crab hands. Excellent video, and appreciate the links to where to but these at
Just watched your review and rewatched Deluge fight review you did. Both great. In Deluge fight dialog between fighters is very important. At one point Col. Wołodyjowski says to Kmicic “you are flailing”. One of favourite movies of my youth. Keep up the good work.
I imagine that guy at 6:00 was running to listen to the neighborhood sword fighters from across the fence😂
Back in my stick fighting days I really wanted something like these gloves for our silly shenanigans. And being honest, they aren't even that much more expensive than decent headwear, so that wasn't an issue. So far I'm really curious about their longevity because IIRC the durability of the threads they use to put a glove's elements together was one of the main challenges when these were designed and tested.
Super cool gauntlets! I’ll make sure to get a pair for when I’m out defending Gotham
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thats why i need gauntlets/gloves to protect my thumb, cause i got hit TWICE in the thumb, right on the back of it where the fingernail is, and it hurts like absolute *FRESH HELL*, and mind you i was using standard SPES lobster gloves. great review by the way!
Excellent review, thank you.
Gotta love the go-pro cam view. I'm immediately reminded of Kingdom Come, especially with the change of guard positions.
Ive told you this before but no one does the first person pov. Your channel is the best
very functional AND fashionable. hard to get right but it looks like the makers pulled it off. props to them and you skall. hope these things earn a long history of keeping your fingers in tact
Finally!! I've been waiting for those gauntlets to be available!! Good to see the sparring and was bad ass to see you duel wielding!!! Love the videos brother!!
Your editing has gotten quite impressive, skall.
The first person shots are super cool.
Man I remember you talking about these gloves like 3 or 4 years ago saying they were coming soon
Been wanting these since for so Long
Freakin loving it. Awesome gauntlets, and awesome seeing them tested.
Thanks for the in-depth and informative review! I'd love to see a follow-up video once you've been using them for longer, to get a sense of how they hold up over time.
i like the first person camera footage in this video & several previous videos.
anyway just realized the subscriber hit 1.5million, congrats!!
Totally unrelated to anything, but a friend of mine was at a pirate fest once. They and one of the bar maidens had a duel, but communication was sadly lacking. They may have won, but nobody mentioned anything about live steel. Everything wound up ok, though, and they got a badass scar just across the lowest part of the ribcage. Was a lot of fun many a drunken night.
Awesome gauntlets, though.
You can use some liquid rubber like flex seal to add some grippy material to the finger's.
hell yeah HEMA content!!
I literally Decided I would make gauntlets the other day. Now I think I'll just buy these. Pricey though. I'm impressed.
16:17 Scary viking man asking how much my hands are worth with his fingers crossed
Super excited to see the rest of the suit and it's effectiveness.. the future is here..!
The gauntlets are the complete product, fighters need to bring their own suit.
kickass dude im gonna get some of these :)
You're looking fucking awesome in the video my dude. Getting serious Geralt of Rivia vibes with the hair and beard haha
i never thought id see the day the ProGauntlet was actually released to the public lmao
Rest in peace, Crossguard/ProGauntlet
Do I understand it right that they were discontinued and scrapped altogether because they ended up just not being that great in actual practice?
@@Riwillion Durability issues on the tendons. Guessing a lot of returns and warranties.
@@DecoyJayc I see, thanks for the reply. A shame though, they looked awesome and seemed pretty promising.
It's good to see Skallagrim sparing again. The early sparing vids are what got me going in HEMA.
They are pretty awesome looking
ok im sold i gues i now need to start practise hema to buy those cloves .... but damm if they dont look good for practise :)
this is a awsome reveiw and very detailed thx for doing this also its cool since this is on my birthday
I would love to see more HEMA content!
I also love your sparring partner's facial hair. Fucking glorious.
Excited to hear your long term review. This makes me want to train hema so badly.
Not only they're super protective and apparently comfortable, but they look awesome too. Nice.
The mobility of my thumb had been tested successfully! Awesome video, Thanks!! 😁
I always love your sparring content
Are you still in love?
The ringing of the swords were very satisfying... oh and, cool gauntlets I suppose.
They look really nice. Do you know if there are plans to make the shell out of metal?
Not as far as I know.
They are not designed to use metal, and I doubt it would work well. Also it's nice that they're this light.
@@Skallagrim I see. Regardless of weight, why do you think metal wouldn't be suitable? Do they need the elasticity of plastic?
The parts are 3d printed.
@@scottmacgregor3444 Pretty sure they are, yes. You can also print metals.
@@spy00at aside from weight. the material and equipment cost needed to switch from the polymer they are using to a metal filament printer would be insane. especially since realistically it's a niche product. metal printing also takes a lot longer to finish and the software available isn't as user-friendly as the big three for plastic 3d printing.
perhaps if the sales for the ProGaunlet exceed expectations then maybe ProGauntlet v2 or v3 might be a metal variant but as Skall said in the video, if you're needing more protection for sparring then your sparring partners are doing something wrong.
Amazing how such a niche hobby gets such well made stuff.
Really impressive.
6:52 Kinda liking the time travel with an arming sword and a sabre :D
Looks like you are doing good on your weight work, Skall. Nicely done!
Wow this is so much different opinion than the AHF review. As I recall they said they are so heavy it had big impact on their fighting ability. Next, the plastic finger tips on the inside prevented "feeling" the sword grip like in other gloves, and finally - the rubber bands holding everything together just kept snapping or getting cut off with swords... Did Progauntlet improve the gloves or... What's happening here?
Legit batman gloves
Gauntlets aside, I'd like to see more first person sparring. This was fascinating to watch!
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Apart from the price, those would be amazing Cosplay gloves
I have to say your sparring partners beard is out of this world.
Those gauntlets of yours look really good. The only better test I can think of is to actively use them to block more. Also, I've personally found that one handed sword wielding against two handed, is that it is best to use your wrist mobility to your advantage. When blocking a strike, use the flat of your blade to catch the blow. When allowing your blade to drop twords the ground, use the weight of the blade and it's center of balance as the untouched focal point, that way, all you are doing is guiding it, rather than doing all the work yourself, even if it means lifting the blade from your side, with the point still twords the ground, and using the incoming blade to start the momentum of the return volley while stepping into your strike around the one you just blocked and redirected away from you. Sorry for my tactical and strategic mindset running on. I may be a complete newbie, but I've still got some natural talents might be useful right?
When I learn how to smith I am buying a pair of those and making 1095 straw temper spring steel covers for each piece lol and maybe upgrading the outer portion of plether on the palm to a good ruber grip.
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Nice sound
4:23 "DO NOT do without fencing masks!"
Or without epic beards. Good, strong beard can work as a replacement for fencing mask!
I have no justifiable reason to get these....yet, but it's kinda nice to see a bit of kit actually exceed expectations.
get some silicon caulk and put small dots on the gloves for better grip. it won't last over time, but you can replace the dots easy enough. how good this will be will be a function of your precision caulking skills.
Even though I don't participate in this sport, I checked out the price and it is actually very reasonable. You'll pay around 100 for a decent pair of motorcycle gloves, so 400 for something of this quality and great design is well worth it. I was expecting them to be more.