Comparing my Harley Sportster 48 to my Suzuki Savage
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Potentially selling my Savage, so I thought I'd give it a look over and quick ride. Check out the "neighbor hater" SuperTrapp exhaust I have on it.
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Had a Suzuki 'Savage' and wow do I regret selling it! It was light, 'flickable', and had torque that would pull teeth from an elephant. Pulled up to a traffic light one day and a guy in a pickup truck pulled up beside me. While we waited for the light to change, he hollered out his window at me while holding a thumbs up, 'Man, I had one those things. NOTHING could beat it across an intersection!' And, that was so true. 'One lungers' (aka 'thumpers') max their torque curve right off the line .. like a tractor. But for those first few seconds (racing at a traffic light) nothing, and I do mean nothing, is as fast. Once across the intersection and the torque curve peaked, they run out of oomph. But for those firts few seconds, they own the street. I miss my Savage a lot, and for the little I paid for it, I was a fool to sell it. Nothing like a 'Savage', and say that with love.
I really appreciate the time and comment, really hope you stick around. I'm curious, where do you live? I actually still have my Savage, decided to keep it.
the savage was like driving an inline 6 ford not the fastest or flashiest but would do everything you asked of it. I miss my savage 🥺
You're absolutely right. My other bikes are much heavier and faster, but the Savage has its own beauty. I'm thinking of rebuilding mine when I have time. Thanks for your time, my friend. Hope you stick around.
The savage or "boulevard" s40 is my first bike and I'm loving it. I was never a car guy but this machine is so simple to understand its the perfect entry into the world of motorcycles. I've learned so many terms and the ins/outs of the bike. I plan on modifying it next year with a raptor petcock, different exhaust, aux led lights and a better battery. Got it last month used with 3000 miles for $2500 with a stage 2 jet kit pre-installed. I've already put 4000 miles on it and I'm driving all over the country
For sure it is absolutely awesome and extremely easy to maneuver. Enjoy it and keep it. I have much faster and stronger bikes, but I still keep my Savage
Keep the Savage for when the Harley is down.
The Savage is currently down. Hahaha! But I did end up keeping it. I do love the thing. I appreciate your time, my friend. Hope you stick around
One last thing, if you ever have to push start any thumper...jump it while in 1st, not second, and use the starter button as you release the clutch to decompress the cylinder, or you'll just be skidding the back tire....yes, even if the battery is dead, should be enough zap left to unlock it enough for it to kick over.
Awesome advise my friend, thank you. Luckily I haven't been stuck yet, but I promise to use your way the second I am! Honestly, thanks.
S40 when set idle sounds awesome as UH-1 Huey
Hell yeah man. It's the Super Trapp exhaust I have on it.. Sounds like a lawn mower without it lol. Please sub and stick around, my friend. I appreciate your time.
Owner a Savage 98 since 2000... 110.000 miles ... Perfect... I live in Brasil... Amazing motorcycle!!!
Oh you know good bikes! Thanks so much for the view and comment. Stay safe!
110,000? Now that’s impressive. Have you had to rebuild the engine at least once during that?
I have the same Savage 650 1998 since 2002... 185 thousand kilometers through Brazil and the south of South America. Simple, basic and amazing motorcycle.
Absolutely. They can take a beating and it's cheap to replace stuff depending on where you're at. Thanks for your time and I hope you stick around!
I have five older brothers and one of them had a vintage Harley. Can't remember the model number. But it was rigged to shift from behind the seat (?!). I'd see him fly up the street and then reach back to shift the gears. *Yikes!* Another brother had an old Harley and installed a western riding saddle on it. We rode that thing together from Ohio to Gatlinburg just for the heck of it. I could hardly walk after that trip!!! LOL That was many years ago, but what memories. People would beep at us on the highway because of that funky saddle. Good times. 🙂 Your bikes are much more civilized! Nice motors, they purr very smoothly. Thanks for the vid!! ✌
Love those stories and memories. You have some cool brothers, obviously. I'm dieing to take my little sis out. I take my son and he loves it. He reminds me of stuff we did together when he was 5 and I don't know how he remembers all of it. When he doesn't have school and it's nice out, he always asks "are we going on a cruise today dad"? Memories you can never forget. Thanks for sharing!
I have the same Savage 650 1998 since 2002... 185 thousand kilometers through Brazil and the south of South America...
Yeah they are fun bikes for sure. I don't know how many miles I put on mine before I got my Harley. I had the engine bored out and a bigger piston put in, but it still wasn't helping very much with people doing 85 on the highway. Mine is currently out of commission, but I can't wait to get back on it again. Thanks for your time, hope you stick around
The LS650 (savage or S40) weighs about 378lbs wet. :)
I knew I was close! Hahaha. Thanks for the view brother.
Love watching and learning about these bikes!....thank u for the info.....waiting patiently for the next video.
Thank you! Means a lot to me.
Had one like it, great nimble and reliable cruiser with prolonged foot pigs without Wind screen, road it 100 miels in a row multiple times, eaven in thunder raining. I miss those days.
Guarantee you'll always remember! I still own the thing, but haven't ridden it in literally a couple years. Thinking about fixing it up and selling it or giving it away. I appreciate your time, hope you stick around
Yeah . . . sold my savage too! Guess what; bought another! Couldn't stand to be without my little scoot. Love the Savage.
I ended up not selling it so I still have it! I totally get where you're coming from. I appreciate your time, please stick around.
I had a little single cylinder GZ250 that I sold a few years ago... Got 75mpg, I rode it every where. Miss that little bike.
@451dskots88 I totally get it man. My Harley is a lot more fierce, but doesn't get half the gas mileage so stopping at gas stations constantly sucks haha. I'm holding on to mine until I get a rear tire for it or sell it. Much rather keep it. Thanks for stopping by, hope you stick around!
@@451dskots88 I had one of those for awhile. Bought it as a project. It was nearly new. Really enjoyed it around town but I lived 30 miles from work. Wasn't enough power against a head wind.
Nice little bike tho.
I rode my Savage on a 3000 mile trip this summer & had a gas of a time.
Less than 100 miles of the trip was on the interstate.
Never had one issue.
Best thing about them still is, they are ever so affordable and depreciated at the market. Good models for 2 Grand already
I'll save some bucks to get one in a few years.
Absolutely man. And so much fun! Thank you for the view!
Got my 06 for 100.00 dollars been setting under a tree cleaned up very nice all unmolested stock. Needed a battery
It’s an OHC four-valve engine, so it can really rev with a less restrictive exhaust and a re-jet. Noise is the price you pay, though. It’s very difficult to effectively muffle a big single. The stock exhaust weighs about 35 lbs. a Supertrapp with the end cap removed is just an open pipe.
Yep. I like the noise so more people know I'm around. That's why I decided not to replace the end cap.
You've obviously got a passion for bikes...very cool and informative. And hey, nice watch!
I appreciate that very much. Better stuff coming soon! Thank you
There's a light when leaving Cocoa Beach that won't turn for bikes, it's a real pain the ass, so I just make a right, then another right, hard to believe these lights are still around. You're going to miss that bike ^^ There's no way I'm getting rid of mine, I've been through a dozen bikes, from Intruder 1400's, to Yamaha R6's, and never enjoyed a bike more than I do my S40(my first bike was a Honda XL250R, so maybe that one, I mean who can't love their first bike ^^), I've had mine at a constant 85 mph on beach rides with very little problems, after some carb work, the right pipe, and minor head work, it will hit 100 in a draft, but it's air cooled, so it's not a great idea. It's not fun to ride at those speeds on it, but it will, this is definitely the most fun from 0-70 through the hills, or twisty roads, yeah, just try to keep up! The only thing this bike is great at, is good feels, it's stress free therapy that gets over 50mpg, good stuff.
Your are absolutely right and I actually decided to keep the thing! I've had nothing but positive feedback about the Savage, so it's staying in the family for now. I truly appreciate the time you took to write such a detailed comment. Stay safe my brother
Harleys are fun machines, a bit like a motorbike only slower and twice the weight. 😜
They definitely are fun. So many ways to customize and be different than everyone else.
Sweet bikes, man! If your buddy wants to quiet that Suzuki down a bit, he can repack the muffler with exhaust fiberglass packing. It will quiet it down, and improve the tone of the exhaust sound a bit. Supertrapps can also be tuned by varying the number of discs in the exhaust, so that’s a nice upgrade.
Thank you brother! I actually ended up keeping it for the time being. And you obviously know what you are talking about. I've tried the tone of each disc, and it's very interesting at how much it can change with very little effort. I kind of miss being able to ride it at night without being pulled over, so I may actually get it plugged again. Lol. I really appreciate your time!
picking up a 2015 in the spring. paid and all been thinking about it everyday.
That's how it goes, my friend. Keep happy about it and enjoy it when you have it. Just stay safe and stick around the channel!
I have a Savage and ride in Texas and have had her at 92 mph no doubt 🤘
Yeah they are cool little bikes for sure. I actually still have mine button need to put some work into it. I was thinking about fixing it up and doing a giveaway of some kind. Stay safe out there
@@grimstravels3416 you still have the one in the video?
Yep. I got a flat while riding with my son and ended up just storing it and using my other bikes
At 60 that's not screaming. That's it's sweet spot.
Lol for sure... I think I've pushed it to about 85/90 when it topped out. I could get to maybe 100, if I was on a steep downhill slope hahaha.
Recently picked up a 2015 for cheap with 525 miles. I really love it because with age and injury I need a light bike to keep riding. I don't ride on the freeway much but sometimes it is necessary where I live plus we have a Suzuki dealer nearby. The belt drive was huge selling point for me. Mine backfires a bit on deceleration, how did you cure that? Your bike runs sweet! Subbed!
Awesome brother! And that is extremely low mileage. I only buy stuff that is belt driven now, It's just so much less to worry about. I actually love when mine backfires so I never looked up how to deal with it hahaha! Sorry. I really appreciate your time and I hope you like the other content, thanks!
A quick hack, if you can get at it, is to adjust the mixture screw to run richer. Doesn't stop it backfiring completely but sure helps a lot.
@user-ol6zp4fz3e I love the sound of backfire ironically lol. I tried to keep everything on this original so it's definitely odd feeling and hearing the sounds with the bushings removed and an aftermarket part installed. Before I put money into it, it literally sounded like a lawn mower. It's less than half the power of my Harley so I guess that makes sense haha. Hope you stick around
I just bought myself a 2019 Suzuki savage LS650!! I’ve been looking for an exhaust but I’m new to everything so I don’t know where to look, and I also notice this bike isn’t very well known
Oh awesome man! If you want one of the best exhausts for it, look for a Super Trapp system. One of the easier ones to install, and you can't beat the sound. It is also adjustable so you can tweak it to exactly what you want. JP Cycles may have them, and they are a very reputable company. Good luck and stay safe! I appreciate the view and comment
@@grimstravels3416 thanks man!!!! I really appreciate it!!:)
Of course my friend, safe travels!
@@grimstravels3416 one more question!! It says it’s specific to Harley Davidson bikes, is that still okay enough to put on my bike?
@@grimstravels3416 we’re good!!! I found it!!! Super excited now😁
The Suzuki is great . The Harley better . But I already own my fathers Classic Norton Tourer he baptised it . Its name is The Monster.
The Harley is definitely better in my opinion also. And that's awesome about your old man's bike, you'll appreciate it more. I've always wanted my grandfather's trike.
Supertrapp exhaust are created with a disk system the more disks the louder it is also the less back pressure super traps exhaust being tunable a lot of times you do not have to rejet the carburetor that's why they're popular he keeps saying his bike is really loud that's something he did it shouldn't be Extremely Loud I have one on my girlfriend's bike a 2015 S40 it is definitely a bike for a smaller person it is a great little bike.
Thanks for checking out the video Gene. I tried the system on every disc, and they all sounded great, but I like it a little better with it just removed. The louder the bike, the easier it is for people to know you're around. And yeah, it's pretty small for me being 6 ft and 220. After I got my Harley, I barely even touch the thing anymore lol. Stick around the channel, we've got some great people here.
love these bro
Thank you brother!
17:40 About to make the purchase on my first bike can't wait for this awkward shit :)
Yes man, enjoy that!!! You need any pointers or info or absolutely anything, hit me up! Be safe and have a blast
Are you interested in selling the bike now. Love the things done to it. Sounds great
Hello my friend, sorry for the late response. I am actually going to sell it because I moved and don't have the space for it any longer. But it now has a flat tire on the back and the carburetor is probably clogged because it hasn't run in a couple months. I do love it though, it was my daily driver for quite a while.
Whar exhaust do you have?? Or had on the savage
I actually still have it, and I put on a Super Trapp exhaust on it. When you get this year original, it sounds kind of like a lawn mower and that's not my style lol. The exhaust isn't all that expensive and pretty easy to work with. Extremely reliable also. I appreciate your time and hope you stick around.
So that was the stock muffler with the guts took out? I have one and have been thinking about doing that ti mine.
No it's an aftermarket exhaust. But if you're looking for a better sound, gutting yours out is the best and cheapest bet
@@grimstravels3416 that's what I was wondering ty. Mine is the same color as your old bike lol
I've still got it and decided to hold off on selling it. They are definitely fun! If you are intending on keeping yours for a while, the Super Trapp exhaust system is a phenomenal buy. Look it up if you get time. But honestly if you're trying to save money, just gutting the stock exhaust will definitely enhance the sound. Stay safe my friend!
I`m pretty sure your 'wet fart' weighs in around 380lbs wet. 'Pop-corn farts' may vary. I just saw a Royal Enfield 350 Meteor in person, but it weighs 420lbs...I`ll take a used Savage.
LMFAO! I like you Pete, please stick around the channel. Got a big Harley now, so I've been kinda hooked on that hahaha. But the Savage is an awesome machine. Hope to hear from you in another video!
Good video, thanks
Thanks for the view my friend!
@@grimstravels3416 how is your Suzuki Fuel efficiency mpg ? And how good is on highway ? Your Suzuki look really good .
Fuel is pretty good on it, usually about 3 hours of riding on a full tank. It's ok on the highway. No problem keeping up with traffic, but it's screaming at 85 mph. Very cheap to fix if something goes wrong also.
uh she sounds good :D .. sad thing is i can NEVER get this bike in Denmark .. new law to prevent loud exhausts -.- .. wich is BS in my book .. since loud pipes save lives
Hey thanks a lot! Yeah, she is illegal in quite a few places, and I totally agree with you. If people hear you, it keeps you safe. You clearly have great taste hahaha. I really appreciate your time and comment!
Savage 💙🖐️
Hell yes! Hahaha, thanks for the view my friend.
@@grimstravels3416 🖐️😀👍
They call it a thumper mister squirrel because it's a large displacement single new to bikes are ya
With a large piston. Reboarded it myself
A Yamaha is a Thumper
@@grimstravels3416
Do you have a boring bar ?
Can I borrow it ? I was going to pay an expert to do it but if you've got the gear and will loan it out, I'll do it myself
Sorry my friend I don't. All the major stuff I get done, I go to a place called Cycle Tech until I get my own equipment. I looked it up, and it seems some of them go for under a hundred bucks. If you do some work, send a pic. When I bored mine out, it was at a buddies house. I intend to own everything at some point lol.
@@grimstravels3416
I was just ribbing you mate
I do have a nice hone but I wasn't about to start doing my own boring jobs
Actually we've got a local bloke here Steve at Coffs Harbour who's fantastic with that sort of thing and I'll get him to look at it, I've already spoken to him about it
You know it's good to know the person doing it instead of just getting it sent away to who knows who by some bike shop
I have a mate who restores instruments speedometers and tachometers I got him to do mine a year or two ago he's a real expert it's an honour to know him, he gave me a ride in ride out service he did the tacho one day and the speedo the next while I hung around talking with him he charged me but he wasn't too savage he gave me mates rates
People send him stuff from all over the world and he charges like a wounded animal and as soon as they get there gear and see how good this fellas work is they send back more for him to do
He recently restored/remanufactured a speedometer for a WWII Matilda Tank for a local museum, it was more like a clock the way it worked than a regular speedometer and it looked to be an impossibility, they told him if need be it didn't have to function even if it only looked correct it would do but he made this rusted piece of useless crap work and look as good as new he's a real wizard
Anyway getting back to the point when I see him and he lives hundreds of miles from me I sometime tell him about "when I restore my instruments" 🤗
If you understand what I'm saying 😉
Here's my dilemma folks. I have been offered an almost new condition 2019 S40 w/6000 miles for $3100...OR 2007 C50 with roughly same mileage same condition w/one small dent in tank for $2000. I almost feel like I have to buy both! They're both such a deal. Lol!! Thoughts?
Okay brother! The mileage is a tad high, but if they have any kind of record about oil changes, then yes the price is pretty solid. There is also a plug on the bottom that you should check. Some people don't replace it and it leaks a little here and there which heats up the motor to an unsafe temperature. I'm speaking more of the 2007 one. Also, haggle on the price a little and see if there is any wiggle room so you can get a fresh oil change and inspection from a trusted mechanic. Good luck and please let me know if you get them!
@@grimstravels3416 Hi. Not sure if you read the miles correctly - only 6 thousand miles
@@jusssme My brother, I am very sorry, I did read that wrong! That is considered the Goldilock Zone because you will definitely see around this time if something needs to be replaced, tightened or tuned up. Obviously depending on driving habits and road conditions. I would still ask that the price be lowered, especially if you're buying both! I don't remember if that year is carbureted, but if so you should let the seller know that you are buying a new carburetor and getting a tune-up. Really hope that helps you negotiate. And if you get one or both of them, they are awesome machines! I can send you a DM with links to upgrade it if you need.
Cant be as bad as your average pre 70s British bike for vibration?
I wish I had one to compare it to hahaha, but I'm not sure. There are a few bikes that I have on my bucket list like a triumph, a BMW, and a Royal Enfield. Probably a few more as well. Thanks for your time, hope you stick around!
That it's what Harley should be doing, cut the m8 in half, just one big cylinder engine and sell cheaper bikes as they let the sportster die and come up with the awful sportster s or nighster...
Yeah there's something about being on a thumper. Much cheaper for sure. I absolutely love my V-Twin on my Sportster, but it's obviously expensive.
they tried that with the buell blast and it was way too heavy
@@dalton5517 wasn't aware of that bike I will check on it, thanks.
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O that says it all I took it to my machanic that savage is a simple machine a beginners bike was it your first.
Thanks for the view and comment Susan! It is a pretty simplistic machine indeed which is exactly why I bought it. I needed something easy and cheap to fix when something failed. I've been riding almost two decades and I've only had my Savage for a few years. I needed a daily driver and it served that purpose perfectly. And the transmission is nearly bulletproof. You can use it every single day for hours and not worry too much, it's basically a small workhorse.
Do you believe a man 6'3" can comfortably ride this bike? I know it would be a bit tight but I need a light bike for hauling on a carrier
Hello my friend. If you're referring to the Harley then absolutely lol, but it's a tough one talking about the Savage. I'm 6 ft and 220 lbs and it was fine, but those extra inches may pose some difficulties. It will definitely get you where you need to go, but it's so light and maneuverable that it may just become a little annoying. If it's your first bike then absolutely, but if you're used to something big like my Harley, I wouldn't suggest it. I appreciate your time, please stick around the channel! Any other questions at all, and I got you on an honest answer.
No sorry speaking of the light s40 savage
@@jusssme Ok, and really it all depends on what you are used to if anything. It's a perfect bike for someone just starting and you could adjust the shocks to make it a little taller. But if you're used to a Harley or anything like that, then I would avoid it. It's a great bike, but under certain circumstances.
As stock ? . . . no. Iˋm 5ˋ10 and sits a little crumpled up. But love the bike nevertheless.
I’m 6 foot 227 you think this bike would be a ok fit for my height
I'm actually 6 ft and 220... The Savage was doable but clearly a little too small. Comfortable and very easy to maneuver, but sitting still at a red light felt like I definitely needed more underneath me. Still have the thing, but I put so much work into the Harley that it's my go to.
Oh I bet. Thanks so much for responding back to me. I was gonna trade something for the bike. I also live in Illinois as well
@@savage26moto74 Absolutely no problem about responding brother. I'm one of the RUclipsrs that are honored for absolutely every view, and I'm grateful for your time so it would be rude at a minimum to not respond. Do you have a Savage? I'd love to see it. I'm in Chicago, not sure how far that is from where you are.
I have a 2012 S40 and I'm 6'2/225lbs. Its my first bike and I've driven it over 4000 miles. I've feel little discomfort on long drives unless I'm driving for extended periods of time above 70mph. It fits me very well but of course a larger bike would be even more comfortable. 10/10 Starter bike though
For sure, if you have clocked that many miles, you probably need something bigger and more comfortable. Check your price range and style to see if it's obtainable
Nowadays the"punch" may encourage road rage..just be careful
It's okay, I always carry my second amendment LOL. I appreciate the concern
So a bike of half the displacement, half the weight and half the price isn't as nice as the big boy? Go figure
You have absolutely no idea how many people actually say they rather have the Savage for some ungodly reason. There are actually a few comments saying exactly that
The roads are full of cracks and potholes. Is US a civilised country?
Not where I'm from. I live in Chicago which is considered the murder capital
Bet late, but happy brithday
Just a little, May 2nd. Hahaha. But thank you, and you as well! I appreciate the view
The engine sound HORRIBLE...
LOL! Well this video is over a year old and they are still running perfectly