This scene gives you the feeling of the ‘clumsyness’ of the battle. That feeling when you realize war is not rambo, war is clumsy and fooly and less heroic than we think. This scene is probably the best close combat wwII ever filmed. Love it. Also gives me shivers.
The movie is just too slow man but the pacific campaing is way more interesting than europe that's why i think the pacific is superior to band of brothers
@@christophed4579 It isn't. It is a very good movie and a very very good war movie but the non combat scenes are very slow. I found myself not really caring about the characters because of this. JMO.
In the book that private with the pistol was said to have charged those emplacements because he was so afraid that he just couldn’t take it anymore, he had to do something. Weird the places bravery can come from. It’s very much like All Quiet on the Western Front, all the soldiers start off terrified but by the end they just don’t give a damn anymore and will charge trenches and machine gun nests without even thinking about it.
There a limit to fear. Once reached, all that remains is rage. A rage so great, you no longer care if you live or you die. It is said, the difference between a brave man and a coward how much fear. they can handle.
What this clip doesn't show are the scenes right after their taking of the bunkers. The soldiers break down and display the pure, raw emotion of having survived such an intense experience. It was one of the most intense scenes in the movie.
this unbelievably underrated and buried by critics movie, was probably the most beautiful poetic war drama hollywood ever produced. and the reason the critics buried this mastepiece is because it represented the human side of the american soldiers. they werent imaginary superheroes. they were real heroes with all their emotions.
Isn't this movie famous as well? The only reason it's not even more famous was probably coming out the same year and awards time as Saving Private Ryan.
I think that's why some people don't like WWII films like this, because it shatters the superhero fairytale. Force of Arms (1951) is another with this tone, although it's set in the European Theater. The main GI hero of the story, Pete, is stuck fighting in some of the worst combat of the Italian Campaign. He becomes fed up with the killing, fed up with losing friends, and fed up with seeing Italian civilians getting hurt by the Germans. He breaks down to the point where he doesn't know what he cares about anymore. Interestingly, while away from the front, he meets a young WAC officer named Ellie who similarly is screwed up mentally by the war (it's strongly implied her fiancé was killed in battle), and she is likewise heartbroken and angry. Their first meeting is not a fairytale love story, in fact it's an absolute clunker, she's cold and agitated and he's kind of insensitive. However, eventually they meet again, vent their frustrations and feelings to each other and it becomes apparent that these two might actually be exactly what each other needs. They begin to fall in love (when Pete manages to get leave), but both nearly die soon after when the Luftwaffe BRUTALLY bombs the Italian town they're staying in, destroying even an old church (which devastates Ellie). Then Pete has yet another bad battle experience where his officer is killed and he is badly wounded (by this point, he's barely staying sane). I won't reveal the full story or ending, but I will say this: It shows the heroes of World War II for what they really were: Men and women just trying to survive and remain stable-minded human beings amongst hell on earth.
It tells the viewers they’ve been on the island a long time, perhaps since November. You could say the one guy even lost his shirt, or rather it rotted off.
Love this movie. Didn’t used to but once I started to understand it it became one of my favorites. The background music in this clip is incredibly haunting. You can apply it to anywhere in a Pacific War battle and it fits.
@@mardukistotalyawesome9371Similar. I didnt quite hate it; but it was disappointing for me. I didnt understand and appreciate it what it was as I do now.
Also incredibly true to the same scene in the book. The company tries a frontal assault and gets stopped cold and pinned down on the lower slopes but then some guys find a way up to the main Japanese bunker complex on top of the hill via a covered draw. The Lt played by John Cusack uses that covered approach to get them to assault the bunkers from the top down and clear the position that way
Agree. Watched this full movie many years ago. While parts of the film seemed to drift for me, this combat scene is was special and I was remembered it.
Best movie from 1999. I was a senior in High School. Know one I knew cared to go watch it with me. I went by myself, saw it. Then went to the movie theater again to watch it a 2nd time.
Yeah, i was a little bit younger but it left a deep impression. Not just the musical score and these superb action sequences but the slower, more contemplative parts as well. I actually couldn't tell Witt and Bell apart and i gotta say, Mallick does not make it easy to understand what's going on. But watching it since then, I've come to appreciate the character arcs that Witt, Bell, Staros, and Tall go through, as well as the island itself and the native people and how their relationship changes. Solid film overall, definitely one of my favorites.
I read the book in 4th grade (1970) and was mesmerized by this chapter. The description on crawling through the grass and bullets clipping the grass right above their heads.
It's a good book. I'm impressed you read it so young. In 4th grade I was busy reading the "Alfred Hitchcock's Three Investigators" mysteries and the Hardy Boys adventures.
Love this movie, it's long, at times slow but it's like a poetic yet horrific dream and the action scenes are unmatched. I can see why Terence Malick is so well regarded even though he only makes the odd film every once in awhile.
The way Terrance film nature in the background of the film and how it carries on while horrific things are happening around it was one of the first things I noticed about the film. The wind and shadow moving the grass all calmly and then brutality happens. I saw this in theaters when it came out which i feel like was in the fall of 98.
Everything always felt so real in this movie from the acting to the kick back of the guns! How the m1 has kick and the carbine has such little, the colt jolting the man’s wrist back and the shotgun kicking upward to the wind blowing the dirt through the grass with the sun light glaring through
Yeah and i wish they had depicted the howitzers with the same level of detail, as it is they don't recoil, and if you notice that, it really takes you out of one of the earlier pivotal scenes. Maybe ILM or some other visual effects studio can fix that up and re-release it in theaters, I'd pay to see that. Seems a lot more likely than the mythical 5.5 hour studio cut, which could be amazing, especially if they could include new music from Hans Zimmer as well. What can i say, everyone's an "ideas" person, lol
Terrence Malick eases into this battle the way he eases into the movie: first with images of the island’s natural beauty, then with those of the human carnage and suffering to which nature is oblivious-making the carnage that much worse, because however important the battle is to us in the moment, nature will in time destroy any remaining traces of it.
The book is more visceral, and more disturbing, but the movie is very different from the book. For instance, the book has a part where a couple of soldiers explore their sexuality with one another, and mixes that in with the combat experiences they are having, and there's nothing like that in the movie. You might like the book.
TRL is a deeper film with some of the most thought-provoking dialogue and acting you will ever see in a war movie while also having one of the most grounded yet authentic depictions of combat in a film I can think of. The emotional states it puts you in with its themes, score, camera angles, shot sequencing, and audio effects is what makes it so much more impactful and beautiful as a whole. That's not to say that SP Ryan is one dimensional or even inferior to TRL, it just has so many more emotions that it provokes on a human level while still being grounded in reality in a way that doesn't require me to suspend my disbelief for most if not all of the film
this whole sequence is a masterclass in film editing. this movie is so underrated, overshadowed by Saving Private Ryan but IMO this is actually the better war movie in a lot of ways
The guy who i admired is the one who was visibly scared out of his mind at 1:53 and nobody would blame him for it. But he still went and did the job he was supposed to do even when he was scared.
This is one of the most intense combat scenes I've ever seen. The first time I watched it, I swear I held my breath the entire time. I'm no combat veteran, but I'd have to imagine this was close to what it was like in the Pacific Theater. The chaos, the confusion, the terror. Death around any and every corner... a fanatical enemy that will commit suicide if that's what is required in order to take you out... split seconds can decide if you live or die. No heroes. Just men fighting to stay alive and keep their friends alive, if possible.
this guy really knows how to do an action sequence. the humanity in the last sequence where the soldier doesn't shoot the Japanese emerging from cover is also an interesting touch
I was on workers comp for a month and the armour asked me if I would like to make some ammo for the film. I hand-made 5000 rounds of blank 7.7 jap ammo for that movie for their "woodpecker" MG, it took me about a week and a half to do it on a single-stage press... The director was told to be careful with the amount they used per scene. They blew it all off in half a day and then wanted another 5000 for the next day, I told them to fuck off...
Did you use Privi brass or reformed and trimmed 30-06 cases? I used to make blanks using Red Dot or 700x in 06, and they were flashy and LOUD. Load 7.7x58 too and consider it a very fine cartridge, and the Type 99 rifle very underrated.
@@JF-xq6fr I was given a mixed lot of once-fired .30-06 brass and RCBS forming dies as well as primers, I have completely forgotten the powder I was provided with or its load.
Most underrated war movie ever . Should be up there with all the classics. Hard to believe that pieces of garbage like Dunkirk and Hacksaw Ridge seem to make every top list but this one is usually overlooked.
I wouldn't say Dunkirk was garbage, but I would agree that this should be well up there in the rankings, the whole WTF is going on, self preservation instinct, Shit I'm going to die responses that most people thrown into this craziness would feel are really well portrayed in this beautifully filmed and as you say, underrated classic.
I *love* how this movie almost never gives the viewer an up close shot of the Japanese during any of the combat shots from the actual Marines' perspective angles. It's just so realistic. You often only see silhouettes of enemies when engaging/being engaged, in actual combat. Very rarely do you see anyone close enough that you can make out actual physical features. That's not to say hand to hand combat didn't happen. But many people do not realize that the overwhelming bulk of engagements were indeed at distances of 100-300 yards away. Often times, troops would find themselves shooting at a random shoulder and helmet that peaked above some grass at 200 yards out. Makes you wonder how many times different rocks were shot at, simply because they sort of looked like a soldier through the dense grass of Guadalcanal. Too many Hollywood movies make *EVERYTHING* so close and personal to keep Marveltard's attention spans in check. I know this film caught so much flak, when it was released, due to it's seemingly strange pacing. But the pacing is very realistic. Long bouts of quiet contemplation with extremely intense bits of actual combat.
breathtakingly cinematography. Of all the WW2 films i've seen this is the one which (along with Das Boot) lingers longest in the mind after i've seen it.
rememeber watching this 7 years old :D still i think its the best and most realistic war movie ever, have no experience but this is pretty close what i think it would be like
A grenade is the most terrifying weapon because unlike other weapons like guns, mashine guns, mortor rounds and even artillery shells which travel in straight lines, a grenade because of its small size can be thrown from any angle or direction making the receiving soldiers really hard to take cover.
True and in Vietnam US Soldiers were told to use grenades if they thought there was something and they could not see since the enemy will not know which the direction you are unlike shooting.
@@charlesdixon552 That was mostly the Japanese soldiers though if you were toting one you would be a prime target from those Japanese soldiers. They learned to target the GI's with BAR's and Flamethrowers.
@@chestersleezer8821 Bar's were indeed nasty.....they were like a war world 2 m-60. However, as I stated, a flamethrower was the most terrifying weapon US infantrymen brought to the fight.
As a combat soldier, I understand why the Japanese soldiers look stupid. The fatigue factor greatly affects the battle. Lack of drinking water sources, malaria disease damaged the fighting strategy of the Japanese soldiers. They could only attack without thinking while screaming BANZAI...
IRL these guys were wounded and completely starved, most of them were near death anyways. Higher command gave the ones who could walk orders to retreat and they said nah we'll all die together up here. And that's what they did, almost to a man.
I watched this movie for the first time in the summertime of 1999, in the afternoon, on a rainy day, and I fell asleep on it. That's only when I rewatched it afterwards that I really enjoyed it. Just try to put yourself in the pants of an American soldier coming into a place that is such a paradise, but also a place turned into a living hell by a war.
A T800 terminator went back in time to help me in WW2. He was my battle buddy. He got shot 8,950 times but cleared a whole division of Japanese by himself.
Came out at the same time of Saving Private Ryan; stood no chance. A far superior film in every way. Emotive, believable and far more realistic. I accept it was far too long but the characters were real. An emotional experience, sound and visual. Masterpiece.
For me these are the most realistic battle scenes in cinematic contemporary history. So brave so sad. Peace and Love Forever. (Whatever that means....)
Picture this, you’re a Japanese troop on Guadalcanal. At first, you have to fight Marines “recruited out of prisons and asylums”, that rip and tear through through your lines, and also pulverizing any friendlies. Although these guys fight with Bolt Action Rifles like how you do, they push you further and further into the jungles where you are forced to dig in, as your buddies fall like flies on the way. This continues for weeks up until men in more masses come, with better equipment than those Marines, and there you are on a hill trying to hold off from these soldiers for what feels like a longer period of time. You try surrendering just to be blown to shreds by a man with a shotgun.
They didn't fasten them during the war either and they usually stayed on anyway. They were relatively heavy so I'm guessing it took a pretty good nudge to knocked them off.
you can actually adjust the inside liner of these helmets so they stay snug on your head, fun fact the reason they never strapped there chinstraps is because there was a rumor that artillery blast shock waves would crush your wind pipe, or snap your neck. This was sort of a soldiers wise tale that am sure had a shred of truth.
We had the same type helmet in Vietnam, 1968. None of us buttoned the chin straps . When you ran you had to hold onto your helmet with one hand, your weapon in the other, or the helmet would bounce off.
There were more army soldiers fighting in the Pacific than Marines. Crazy to think but all the big battles had tons of army troops or almost all army troops. Late Guadalcanal, the rest of the Solomons campaign, Okinawa, and the Philippines, that one in particular was the biggest battle of the Pacific and it was mostly army.
The intensity and realism of this scene and film is that you can feel the terror and horror as both sides felt it. The japanese were just kids like the US servicemen and both were thrown into the horrors of war and having to kill or be killed.
Doesn't matter what country you're from, please don't place your prepared defensive machine gun emplacements with boulders right in front of them, perfectly sized to provide defilade to infantrymen, within grenade throwing range :x Look at that field of fire at 2:27, there's actually more deadzone than clear!
It was unfortunate that this movie was released so close to 'Saving Private Ryan', it was unfairly compared and forgotten about by critics at the time. Yet each time I watch it, I pick up more insight into how the movie portrays the mixture of emotions relating to the human side of the combatants. They were not comic book heroes but instead scared individuals doing a job that had to be done. This scene in particular leaves you gripping your seat and out of breath, each time you watch it.
Never been in combat or even in the army, but i always assumed modern war movies werent accurate. This one clip showed me the sheer amount of stress and fear that happens. it made me physically scared
I really like how Doll overcomes his fear and does his thing...I know it's only a movie, but it occurs to me how wars are won...so much more fulfilling than Upham from Saving Private Ryan...
This movie really hit me hard! Not shown in this clip the Americans finally capture one of the pill boxes and you see just how scared and phatically human the Japanese soldiers are and for that moment you don't want to kill them, you want to just hug them and say "lets stop this madness and just go back home to our families." But we are reliving this scene now in Ukraine and it will keep on repeating itself as long as humans need to kill each other. Jesus commanded us to "love one another" it's our only alternative.
This movie loosely depicted the battle of Mount Austen towards the end of the Guadalcanal campaign. It was the Army that was put in charge of clearing out the remaining Japanese resistance in this sector of the island.
I've never seen this film, but that's gonna change soon. Looks incredible, not a in a good way obviously. When the soldier starts going into that shellshock trance about 1:54 and that truly ominous music kicks in, it really emphasises how haunting and crippling that condition feel be like... 😳🥶
Interestingly, this soldier manages to overcome his paralyzing fear and fight; unlike the Pvt Hoppel character in Saving Private Ryan, who allows one of his squad members to be stabbed by a single German while he himself cowers at the bottom of the stairs.
In such a star studded line-up there are so many great individual performances, but my favourite has to be Elias Koteas... i think this and Fallen with Denzel Washington are his best films.
In close-quarters combat like this, the advantage of every American soldier being equipped with an automatic weapon is immeasurable. Japanese on the other hand, the normal infantry was only equipped with bolt action rifles.
4:07 Actually a decent replication of Japanese MG's. They only had 30 round clips..... FOR THEIR MACHINE GUNS. Max. Just nuts. Meanwhile, American's had 250 boxes of belt fed.
I've only seen the entire movie twice. I want to buy the Criterion Collection version and watch it again. I do not recall all of this clip being in the version I saw. If they cut this scene from the movie and showed a shortened version that would be disappointing.
![Noob To Max With DRAGON REWORK In Blox Fruits [FULL MOVIE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LnBMOinoOvA/mqdefault.jpg)
This scene gives you the feeling of the ‘clumsyness’ of the battle. That feeling when you realize war is not rambo, war is clumsy and fooly and less heroic than we think. This scene is probably the best close combat wwII ever filmed. Love it. Also gives me shivers.
Except for the end scene in SPR. Man that was legits.
Watch the factorybattle in the 1993 movie Stalingrad. Its also a pain in the a
😅
war is not holywood
In episode 7 of the miniseries "The Pacific" there is a great scene of close quarters combat you should check out if you haven't already.
Very underrated film. Terrence Malick did his usual excellent job with this film.
insufferable meaningless film full of tedious pseudo-intellectual drivel.
The movie is just too slow man but the pacific campaing is way more interesting than europe that's why i think the pacific is superior to band of brothers
@@daniellap.stewart6839 I feel sorry for you for not understanding or rather feeling why this movie is one of the greatest movies ever done.
@@christophed4579 I'm sorry that the existantial brain masturbation of the film make it so great for you.
@@christophed4579 It isn't. It is a very good movie and a very very good war movie but the non combat scenes are very slow. I found myself not really caring about the characters because of this. JMO.
In the book that private with the pistol was said to have charged those emplacements because he was so afraid that he just couldn’t take it anymore, he had to do something. Weird the places bravery can come from. It’s very much like All Quiet on the Western Front, all the soldiers start off terrified but by the end they just don’t give a damn anymore and will charge trenches and machine gun nests without even thinking about it.
There a limit to fear. Once reached, all that remains is rage. A rage so great, you no longer care if you live or you die. It is said, the difference between a brave man and a coward how much fear. they can handle.
The actor showed it well with his eyes. Fear > too much fear to handle > rage
As Lt. Speirs told Private Blythe, "you are already dead..."
That is The Thin Red Line, he no longer cared if he lived or if he died.
@@rvhill69 That's why I love this scene. You can see fight or flight battling for control in his eyes until fight finally won.
What this clip doesn't show are the scenes right after their taking of the bunkers. The soldiers break down and display the pure, raw emotion of having survived such an intense experience. It was one of the most intense scenes in the movie.
Most of the criticism was directed at the editing and length of the movie.
this unbelievably underrated and buried by critics movie, was probably the most beautiful poetic war drama hollywood ever produced. and the reason the critics buried this mastepiece is because it represented the human side of the american soldiers. they werent imaginary superheroes. they were real heroes with all their emotions.
Isn't this movie famous as well? The only reason it's not even more famous was probably coming out the same year and awards time as Saving Private Ryan.
From what I recall, critics loved this movie. It just had the unfortunate release time as Saving Private Ryan.
I think that's why some people don't like WWII films like this, because it shatters the superhero fairytale. Force of Arms (1951) is another with this tone, although it's set in the European Theater. The main GI hero of the story, Pete, is stuck fighting in some of the worst combat of the Italian Campaign. He becomes fed up with the killing, fed up with losing friends, and fed up with seeing Italian civilians getting hurt by the Germans. He breaks down to the point where he doesn't know what he cares about anymore. Interestingly, while away from the front, he meets a young WAC officer named Ellie who similarly is screwed up mentally by the war (it's strongly implied her fiancé was killed in battle), and she is likewise heartbroken and angry. Their first meeting is not a fairytale love story, in fact it's an absolute clunker, she's cold and agitated and he's kind of insensitive. However, eventually they meet again, vent their frustrations and feelings to each other and it becomes apparent that these two might actually be exactly what each other needs. They begin to fall in love (when Pete manages to get leave), but both nearly die soon after when the Luftwaffe BRUTALLY bombs the Italian town they're staying in, destroying even an old church (which devastates Ellie). Then Pete has yet another bad battle experience where his officer is killed and he is badly wounded (by this point, he's barely staying sane). I won't reveal the full story or ending, but I will say this: It shows the heroes of World War II for what they really were: Men and women just trying to survive and remain stable-minded human beings amongst hell on earth.
@@hawkeyeten2450mate I think you've already revealed the full story
@@diollinebranderson6553 Oh trust me, it gets much wilder. I only revealed about half of it.
The Japanese actors did a great job. The whole thing is very convincing. Suspension of disbelief.
It tells the viewers they’ve been on the island a long time, perhaps since November. You could say the one guy even lost his shirt, or rather it rotted off.
I thought they were Australians. Never can tell with movies filmed in Australia.
Very convincing. One guy gets a MG round to the chest and speaks like nothing happens
@@CodytheHun123or he took it off cause it’s hot as fuck in those bunkers
@@God_Help_Me11 or that. Lol
Love this movie. Didn’t used to but once I started to understand it it became one of my favorites. The background music in this clip is incredibly haunting. You can apply it to anywhere in a Pacific War battle and it fits.
I saw this in the theater as a kid and hated it. Watched it 20 years later and it is a great movie.
@@mardukistotalyawesome9371Similar. I didnt quite hate it; but it was disappointing for me. I didnt understand and appreciate it what it was as I do now.
Totally agree. When I first saw it, I didn't really get it. But probably the best war movie ever made.
I totally agree
Yup far superior to Saving Private Ryan as that is just pure hollywood.
For a somewhat odd and unorthodox war film, this particular scene was one of the best close quarter combat sequences ever filmed.
Also incredibly true to the same scene in the book. The company tries a frontal assault and gets stopped cold and pinned down on the lower slopes but then some guys find a way up to the main Japanese bunker complex on top of the hill via a covered draw. The Lt played by John Cusack uses that covered approach to get them to assault the bunkers from the top down and clear the position that way
Agree. Watched this full movie many years ago. While parts of the film seemed to drift for me, this combat scene is was special and I was remembered it.
It's the best film that carries the label 'war film' ever made next to Apocalypse Now and Come and See.
@@jakubcygan8265 I'll agree to that. All three films are complicated and somewhat hard to follow, but magnificently done.
He was writing about a real battle. The refusal to attack thing actually happened!
As combat veteran. That was beyond realistic. That had me breathing hard. It’s just luck you survive. I’m 62 now. I’m blubbering like a baby.
Thank you for your Service, Sir.
God bless you Aussie!
Where did you see combat?
Thank you for your service, @justanaussie2822
I’d love to know what made it so realistic? Where there any particular aspects?
Best movie from 1999. I was a senior in High School. Know one I knew cared to go watch it with me. I went by myself, saw it. Then went to the movie theater again to watch it a 2nd time.
Same. I was a freshman
Yeah, i was a little bit younger but it left a deep impression. Not just the musical score and these superb action sequences but the slower, more contemplative parts as well. I actually couldn't tell Witt and Bell apart and i gotta say, Mallick does not make it easy to understand what's going on. But watching it since then, I've come to appreciate the character arcs that Witt, Bell, Staros, and Tall go through, as well as the island itself and the native people and how their relationship changes. Solid film overall, definitely one of my favorites.
High school kids don’t really like movies like this. We don’t appreciate them until we get a little bit older and immature.
I read the book in 4th grade (1970) and was mesmerized by this chapter. The description on crawling through the grass and bullets clipping the grass right above their heads.
I have not read the book but saw the movie. I loved the opening line. “The closer to Caesar the greater the fear.”.
Boy is that the truth.
I read it last year, it was a good read.
It's a good book. I'm impressed you read it so young. In 4th grade I was busy reading the "Alfred Hitchcock's Three Investigators" mysteries and the Hardy Boys adventures.
@@derfunkhaussame here! I loved those two book series!
One of the best battle scenes in any U.S.-made movie.
Love this movie, it's long, at times slow but it's like a poetic yet horrific dream and the action scenes are unmatched. I can see why Terence Malick is so well regarded even though he only makes the odd film every once in awhile.
I would love to see a four hour cut of this movie
The way Terrance film nature in the background of the film and how it carries on while horrific things are happening around it was one of the first things I noticed about the film. The wind and shadow moving the grass all calmly and then brutality happens. I saw this in theaters when it came out which i feel like was in the fall of 98.
The acting in this movie is off the charts!
Everything always felt so real in this movie from the acting to the kick back of the guns! How the m1 has kick and the carbine has such little, the colt jolting the man’s wrist back and the shotgun kicking upward to the wind blowing the dirt through the grass with the sun light glaring through
Yeah and i wish they had depicted the howitzers with the same level of detail, as it is they don't recoil, and if you notice that, it really takes you out of one of the earlier pivotal scenes. Maybe ILM or some other visual effects studio can fix that up and re-release it in theaters, I'd pay to see that.
Seems a lot more likely than the mythical 5.5 hour studio cut, which could be amazing, especially if they could include new music from Hans Zimmer as well. What can i say, everyone's an "ideas" person, lol
This movie's soundtrack really sells the evil in combat. So often action movies aren't scary. This shit was fear.
For me, the first scene when they came upon the limbless corpse really established that feeling of pure evil surrounding them
very underrated war film. It was very well done.
I have heard it called the greatest war movie ever made.
@@jmarty1000i feel like I'd have to watch a lot more movies to say that, but right now it's the best one I've seen.
Terrence Malick eases into this battle the way he eases into the movie: first with images of the island’s natural beauty, then with those of the human carnage and suffering to which nature is oblivious-making the carnage that much worse, because however important the battle is to us in the moment, nature will in time destroy any remaining traces of it.
This movie is 10x the film Private Ryan was. Way more visceral. "I'm going to sink my teeth into your liver...."
The book is more visceral, and more disturbing, but the movie is very different from the book.
For instance, the book has a part where a couple of soldiers explore their sexuality with one another, and mixes that in with the combat experiences they are having, and there's nothing like that in the movie.
You might like the book.
4:19 the way he throws that grenade is flawless
If I throw a grenade, it will bounce off something and fall right in front of me.
i read somewhere this scene was sped up something like 12% but one thing im sure all the granades flying are CGI.. still awesome to see
@drewinsur7321...Why wouldn't they just throw inert replicas?
Saving Private Ryan was a masterpiece. But The Thin Red Line was a beast, damn, cruel and brutal to the realistic level.
TRL is a deeper film with some of the most thought-provoking dialogue and acting you will ever see in a war movie while also having one of the most grounded yet authentic depictions of combat in a film I can think of. The emotional states it puts you in with its themes, score, camera angles, shot sequencing, and audio effects is what makes it so much more impactful and beautiful as a whole.
That's not to say that SP Ryan is one dimensional or even inferior to TRL, it just has so many more emotions that it provokes on a human level while still being grounded in reality in a way that doesn't require me to suspend my disbelief for most if not all of the film
this whole sequence is a masterclass in film editing. this movie is so underrated, overshadowed by Saving Private Ryan but IMO this is actually the better war movie in a lot of ways
The guy who i admired is the one who was visibly scared out of his mind at 1:53 and nobody would blame him for it. But he still went and did the job he was supposed to do even when he was scared.
This is one of the most intense combat scenes I've ever seen. The first time I watched it, I swear I held my breath the entire time. I'm no combat veteran, but I'd have to imagine this was close to what it was like in the Pacific Theater. The chaos, the confusion, the terror. Death around any and every corner... a fanatical enemy that will commit suicide if that's what is required in order to take you out... split seconds can decide if you live or die.
No heroes. Just men fighting to stay alive and keep their friends alive, if possible.
this guy really knows how to do an action sequence. the humanity in the last sequence where the soldier doesn't shoot the Japanese emerging from cover is also an interesting touch
this wasnt a movie about marines. these were soldiers of us army stationed in Hawaii
@@DisHappah ah thank you. Should have known from the 25th infantry patch
@@pikiwiki No problem. I guess it got my attention because I served in 25th ID myself as a mortarmen. good times.
No WAY those Japanese would have surrendered in 1941. They would have fought to the last man.
@@The_OneManCrowd to be fair they wouldn't have surrendered in 45 either
I was on workers comp for a month and the armour asked me if I would like to make some ammo for the film.
I hand-made 5000 rounds of blank 7.7 jap ammo for that movie for their "woodpecker" MG, it took me about a week and a half to do it on a single-stage press...
The director was told to be careful with the amount they used per scene.
They blew it all off in half a day and then wanted another 5000 for the next day, I told them to fuck off...
this should be in trivia on the IMDB page
wow that's amazing, good that you told them to fuck off
Great story!
Did you use Privi brass or reformed and trimmed 30-06 cases? I used to make blanks using Red Dot or 700x in 06, and they were flashy and LOUD. Load 7.7x58 too and consider it a very fine cartridge, and the Type 99 rifle very underrated.
@@JF-xq6fr I was given a mixed lot of once-fired .30-06 brass and RCBS forming dies as well as primers, I have completely forgotten the powder I was provided with or its load.
Thanks!
Sadly, this movie never got the recognition it deserves.
Most underrated war movie ever . Should be up there with all the classics. Hard to believe that pieces of garbage like Dunkirk and Hacksaw Ridge seem to make every top list but this one is usually overlooked.
I wouldn't say Dunkirk was garbage, but I would agree that this should be well up there in the rankings, the whole WTF is going on, self preservation instinct, Shit I'm going to die responses that most people thrown into this craziness would feel are really well portrayed in this beautifully filmed and as you say, underrated classic.
Hacksaw Ridge and Dunkirk had their flaws, as did this film, but they were certainly not "garbage"
I *love* how this movie almost never gives the viewer an up close shot of the Japanese during any of the combat shots from the actual Marines' perspective angles. It's just so realistic. You often only see silhouettes of enemies when engaging/being engaged, in actual combat. Very rarely do you see anyone close enough that you can make out actual physical features.
That's not to say hand to hand combat didn't happen. But many people do not realize that the overwhelming bulk of engagements were indeed at distances of 100-300 yards away. Often times, troops would find themselves shooting at a random shoulder and helmet that peaked above some grass at 200 yards out. Makes you wonder how many times different rocks were shot at, simply because they sort of looked like a soldier through the dense grass of Guadalcanal. Too many Hollywood movies make *EVERYTHING* so close and personal to keep Marveltard's attention spans in check.
I know this film caught so much flak, when it was released, due to it's seemingly strange pacing. But the pacing is very realistic. Long bouts of quiet contemplation with extremely intense bits of actual combat.
I think the soldiers were Army not Marines
@@trubblman You are completely right, I got mixed up. It’s about the Army 25th Division reinforcing the Marines of Guadalcanal.
I'm Japanese, but this movie is well made
The Japanese army self-destructed on an island to the south
breathtakingly cinematography. Of all the WW2 films i've seen this is the one which (along with Das Boot) lingers longest in the mind after i've seen it.
Ah the thin red line - my personal favourite.
Up there with the best war movies of all time to me every actor put their heart and soul into their part a must to watch
rememeber watching this 7 years old :D still i think its the best and most realistic war movie ever, have no experience but this is pretty close what i think it would be like
A grenade is the most terrifying weapon because unlike other weapons like guns, mashine guns, mortor rounds and even artillery shells which travel in straight lines, a grenade because of its small size can be thrown from any angle or direction making the receiving soldiers really hard to take cover.
True and in Vietnam US Soldiers were told to use grenades if they thought there was something and they could not see since the enemy will not know which the direction you are unlike shooting.
@@chestersleezer8821 Agreed.
A grenade is the most terrifying? How about being cooked alive by a flamethrower?
@@charlesdixon552 That was mostly the Japanese soldiers though if you were toting one you would be a prime target from those Japanese soldiers. They learned to target the GI's with BAR's and Flamethrowers.
@@chestersleezer8821 Bar's were indeed nasty.....they were like a war world 2 m-60. However, as I stated, a flamethrower was the most terrifying weapon US infantrymen brought to the fight.
As a combat soldier, I understand why the Japanese soldiers look stupid. The fatigue factor greatly affects the battle. Lack of drinking water sources, malaria disease damaged the fighting strategy of the Japanese soldiers. They could only attack without thinking while screaming BANZAI...
IRL these guys were wounded and completely starved, most of them were near death anyways. Higher command gave the ones who could walk orders to retreat and they said nah we'll all die together up here. And that's what they did, almost to a man.
The adrenaline in these battles must be out of this world
I watched this movie for the first time in the summertime of 1999, in the afternoon, on a rainy day, and I fell asleep on it. That's only when I rewatched it afterwards that I really enjoyed it.
Just try to put yourself in the pants of an American soldier coming into a place that is such a paradise, but also a place turned into a living hell by a war.
L'un des meilleurs film que j'ai vu , cette scène est incroyable
'98 gave us two great war films.
one of the best scenes in any war movie. and one of the best war movies. the realism is incredible. i am going to get a recording of this movie.
Beautiful philosophical movie
A T800 terminator went back in time to help me in WW2. He was my battle buddy. He got shot 8,950 times but cleared a whole division of Japanese by himself.
Came out at the same time of Saving Private Ryan; stood no chance. A far superior film in every way. Emotive, believable and far more realistic. I accept it was far too long but the characters were real. An emotional experience, sound and visual. Masterpiece.
For me these are the most realistic battle scenes in cinematic contemporary history. So brave so sad. Peace and Love Forever. (Whatever that means....)
I think I love the sky as much as Terrence Mallick
Picture this, you’re a Japanese troop on Guadalcanal. At first, you have to fight Marines “recruited out of prisons and asylums”, that rip and tear through through your lines, and also pulverizing any friendlies. Although these guys fight with Bolt Action Rifles like how you do, they push you further and further into the jungles where you are forced to dig in, as your buddies fall like flies on the way. This continues for weeks up until men in more masses come, with better equipment than those Marines, and there you are on a hill trying to hold off from these soldiers for what feels like a longer period of time. You try surrendering just to be blown to shreds by a man with a shotgun.
And a shotgun that can clear a whole trench in mere seconds
It's amazing how their helmets never fall off because they never seem to fasten them .
They didn't fasten them during the war either and they usually stayed on anyway. They were relatively heavy so I'm guessing it took a pretty good nudge to knocked them off.
you can actually adjust the inside liner of these helmets so they stay snug on your head, fun fact the reason they never strapped there chinstraps is because there was a rumor that artillery blast shock waves would crush your wind pipe, or snap your neck. This was sort of a soldiers wise tale that am sure had a shred of truth.
@@johnmarstonification Thanks for clearing that up. I've never worn one before but have held one and remember it being heavier than it looked.
We had the same type helmet in Vietnam, 1968. None of us buttoned the chin straps . When you ran you had to hold onto your helmet with one hand, your weapon in the other, or the helmet would bounce off.
I think this scene was based on Medal of Honor recipient Captain Charles Davis. US Army. James Jones was in his unit.
Those Marines who fought in the Pacific are as tough as they come. Semper Fi! 🇺🇸
This was the Army bubba
There were more army soldiers fighting in the Pacific than Marines. Crazy to think but all the big battles had tons of army troops or almost all army troops. Late Guadalcanal, the rest of the Solomons campaign, Okinawa, and the Philippines, that one in particular was the biggest battle of the Pacific and it was mostly army.
Sorry bro your so called marines pulled out of the island lmao
Marines were the spearhead, first to fight during the island hopping campaign. Army had to clear the rest of the islands
The intensity and realism of this scene and film is that you can feel the terror and horror as both sides felt it. The japanese were just kids like the US servicemen and both were thrown into the horrors of war and having to kill or be killed.
Best movie about war ever made
4:02 Is he dual wielding his M1A1 and his .45?!
Yup and honestly probably doable the m1 is like 4lbs
That opening bombing? I think that's what's called "danger close." Goddamn!
Best war movie ever.
The biggest misfortune of this movie is that it was shot in the same year as Saving Private Ryan. Otherwise he would have won at least 2-3 Oscars
This is best war movie ever made
Pure emotional adrenaline aggressive momentum drive and 100% bravery.
During past twenty years of seeing this film, I never noticed that flash before at roughly 0:28
What was that flash about? Can you please tell me
The acting is so amazing u feel thats movie
2:35 still scared butt went on to do his duty
Doesn't matter what country you're from, please don't place your prepared defensive machine gun emplacements with boulders right in front of them, perfectly sized to provide defilade to infantrymen, within grenade throwing range :x
Look at that field of fire at 2:27, there's actually more deadzone than clear!
Best thing, the music, dramatic, horror, or beautiful
The music is haunting. Just horror
It was unfortunate that this movie was released so close to 'Saving Private Ryan', it was unfairly compared and forgotten about by critics at the time. Yet each time I watch it, I pick up more insight into how the movie portrays the mixture of emotions relating to the human side of the combatants. They were not comic book heroes but instead scared individuals doing a job that had to be done. This scene in particular leaves you gripping your seat and out of breath, each time you watch it.
Never been in combat or even in the army, but i always assumed modern war movies werent accurate. This one clip showed me the sheer amount of stress and fear that happens. it made me physically scared
Great film!
I was literally thinking about this movie today 😂😅
I really like how Doll overcomes his fear and does his thing...I know it's only a movie, but it occurs to me how wars are won...so much more fulfilling than Upham from Saving Private Ryan...
This movie really hit me hard! Not shown in this clip the Americans finally capture one of the pill boxes and you see just how scared and phatically human the Japanese soldiers are and for that moment you don't want to kill them, you want to just hug them and say "lets stop this madness and just go back home to our families." But we are reliving this scene now in Ukraine and it will keep on repeating itself as long as humans need to kill each other. Jesus commanded us to "love one another" it's our only alternative.
This film has an incredible amount of detail
This movie loosely depicted the battle of Mount Austen towards the end of the Guadalcanal campaign. It was the Army that was put in charge of clearing out the remaining Japanese resistance in this sector of the island.
I've never seen this film, but that's gonna change soon. Looks incredible, not a in a good way obviously. When the soldier starts going into that shellshock trance about 1:54 and that truly ominous music kicks in, it really emphasises how haunting and crippling that condition feel be like... 😳🥶
Interestingly, this soldier manages to overcome his paralyzing fear and fight; unlike the Pvt Hoppel character in Saving Private Ryan, who allows one of his squad members to be stabbed by a single German while he himself cowers at the bottom of the stairs.
@@robscoggins Indeed. Great difference in portrayals and perspective.
Film can't portray the utter chaos of such minutes.
In such a star studded line-up there are so many great individual performances, but my favourite has to be Elias Koteas... i think this and Fallen with Denzel Washington are his best films.
This film is so, so much better than Saving Private Ryan.
the fact that a machine gun nest has its sight blocked by a giant rock sitting 20' in front of it is hilarious
There wasn't just one machine gun nest and have you ever heard of defilade?
That's the highest capacity Colt .45 in history! I counted more than 12 shots and no reloads.
5:05 US Soldier: fire in the hole
Japanese Soldier: oh shit grenade get rid of it 💥
Technically these are supposed to be Soldiers of the 25th Infantry Division, not Marines.
It's one of the underrated films
Great battle scenes
very well made sequence
This movie is pretty good. Interesting to see the US army perspective on Guadalcanal.
Incredibly intense.
The 1911 Colt 45 such a beauty ❤
That music was eerie when they started there assult
My favorite sequences in a war movie. Jim caviziel played jesus himself and ill always remeber him as pvt witt
Pvt Witt was something of a spiritual revolutionary himself. Blazes, what a film Malick crafted for us.
Those guys were on autopilot running off pure adrenaline.
Fantastic film!
Such an incredible film
In close-quarters combat like this, the advantage of every American soldier being equipped with an automatic weapon is immeasurable. Japanese on the other hand, the normal infantry was only equipped with bolt action rifles.
One fine movie they don't make them like they used to
4:07 Actually a decent replication of Japanese MG's. They only had 30 round clips..... FOR THEIR MACHINE GUNS. Max. Just nuts. Meanwhile, American's had 250 boxes of belt fed.
20 rounds * it’s a type 3 and it’s a copy of the French hotchkiss machine gun
And their type 99 (LMG) had a 25 round magazine
I'd forgotten how good this movie is. The worst thing that could have happened to it was being released just after Saving Private Ryan.
"Say a prayer for your pal on Guadalcanal."
Classic..if u aint seen this flick, see it!
It's sick what humans do to each other
I've only seen the entire movie twice. I want to buy the Criterion Collection version and watch it again. I do not recall all of this clip being in the version I saw. If they cut this scene from the movie and showed a shortened version that would be disappointing.