You are so right, the economics of the time can and do have a substantial impact on the value of things in the market. As prices for essentials at the grocery store climb, the amount of money the consumer has left for discretionary purchases diminishes which dictates what people are willing to spend on those non-essentials like comic book collectables
Good call on microchip, people be pushing the (Moo knight - cow knight) , Tim drake is alright but the more you dup a character it’s always diminishing returns, venom carnage toxin etc
This reflects my forecast from 8 months ago. Prices are currently plummeting, and it seems we haven't reached the lowest point yet. I anticipate that the bottom might not be reached for another 3 to 6 months. As you pointed out, now could be an excellent opportunity to acquire items at rock-bottom prices if you have disposable income.
The market always dictates the current price on collectibles, not trends or previous prices. I'm willing to bet all the 'outliers' that sell for cheap are purchases mainly by dealers like yourself hoping the price you're paying is low enough you can resell it at a profit. Just remember it can always go lower and you can end up with overpriced inventory unless you can hold on to it for what may be months or years, who knows!
I think a lot of people will hold onto their books until things start to recover, which will help boost the prices. If not, I'm gonna get some killer deals.
@@Stargayzer---yeah I sell what’s hot and hold my big boy stuff till it goes back up as well as I buy while it’s cheap. I never really do speculation books unless I plan on selling it quick
Natural rate of inflation will cause collectibles to drop in price. If you can't afford to buy food or pay rent/mortgage, you have to start liquidating your stuff. Collectibles are the first to go.
Grading FEH! The only books that should be graded are ones that are normally expensive, I wouldn't grade a book unless it's worth more than $1000 or just good and unique. I'm using this market to get the stuff I sold years ago.
No offense, but the biggest problem with most of these books are they feature characters no one cares about at the moment. For old-school Punisher readers, Micro-Chip is a big deal. But most current readers have no idea who he is. As far as Moon Knight, everyone is chasing that Werewolf by Night #32 rather than his first solo series. And a lot of the other books are just things that once were pretty popular, but have trended down. Or they're just not rare enough. Some will eventually go back up. And some have probably had their day. Like Preacher.
The funny thing about most of the comics listed in both videos is that they haven't really seen a value drop on raw copies, just slabbed copies. Moon Knight # 1 is probably the most significant drop on it's raw copy value. When everybody had Moon Knight Fever a few years back even random back issues with no key significance were selling for $20 - $30 at cons and online, and for years I've never seen a copy sell on eBay for under $100 in any condition. After years of trying, I just bought a raw 8.5 on eBay for $20 and I thought I'd gotten a hell of a deal...until I looked up the value and saw that it'd just dropped from $120 to $60. And $120 is what it dropped to after "market correction" from it's previous highs. Still, got it for one third of it's current FMV, so I'm hardly disappointed, but it's crazy how pretty much every Moon Knight comic across the board has plummeted like a stone...and still continue to drop.
None of this surprises me. The population of collectors is shrinking. There are very few new entrants - virtually no kids, new comics are $3.99, sold ONLY in comic stores. So, with some number of long time collectors leaving the hobby because new stuff doesn't resonate with them, or they're ageing out (getting married / kids ) or dying. No pluses, only minuses, means there are less people to buy these and all the other 1000 supposedly "Key" modern books. Then when, those who leave dump them to a dealer, there's less people who want them, so dealers cut their prices. Wolverine, Punisher, Teen Titans, X-Men are mostly collected only by old-timers now, and the stampedes to Morbius, Modok, Taskmaster, Ms. Marvel, Moonknight, pass like gas, so even the newer collectors are worn out. There are far more copies of modern books than the number of people who want them. And, it's worse for 9.8 slabs - a $10 book that no one wants, in $30 of plastic, is not something that people will pay $60 for. Prices all modern books are heading down until a equilibrium is reached.
I’m curious why people say low census count to justify value? I get it with rarer books, but with more modern books it usually means it’s not incredibly important to encapsulate.
Batman 423 is so overrated for me, glad I sold my copy. McFarlane said it's his easiest cover he ever made, he didn't do interior work like his Year 2 run which are better books.
I agree with you about Green Lantern #25 but .... I recently decided to collect the Geoff Johns Green Lantern run so if they hadn't come down I would have had to spend a lot more money on my Green Lantern #25.
Here’s where everyone throws rotten eggs at me for this opinion. So I worked at the very first comic book store in CT many many years ago. The owner was one of the comic retailer OGs and knew everyone in the business like Chuck from Mike High comics and many other long established comic book pioneers. So here’s my hot take. When CGC came on the scene he hated the concept and said they would end up killing our beautiful hobby. In many ways I have to agree. There are a lot of positives so I’m not coming at this like I’m a hater. So please give me some grace as it’s just an opinion. Here are some issues that I think have damaged the hobby. First if you’ve submitted to CGC I’m sure you’ve experienced the wild swings in grading consistency which sucks. I also feel that the census artificially manipulated grading. I won’t name names but having spoken with prominent folks at CGC I was disturbed by how they spoke of the census and how it influences grading i.e. if all of a sudden they think there are too many Avengers #4 Captain America returns copies in High grade then grading gets a lot harder. And that my friends goes against the spirit and charter of what CGC is supposed to be about! The grade should be the grade and not influenced by any factors other than the defects of the actual book. CGC has also killed pricing because the disparity between a raw and slabbed book is crazy and while I am on board with a difference in pricing as it should be - I think it’s way overboard. The health of the hobby is not good as back in the day folks actually bought the books to read and enjoy. I filled in runs and didn’t just care about “keys” as everyone is speculating like crazy. Now with the reholder scandal it feels like the hobby is in a really fragile state. I think it could be fixed but it has to start with consistent grading and not manipulating grading guidelines due to the census. The census should serve as a factual record keeping metric. If there are a gazillion 9.8s of a book so be it as long as the grading is consistent. We should dial the grading up or down because “too many copies are on the scene. I think the recent scandal puts CGC at a critical point in their history. Hopefully they make the right calls and learn from this. We need more consistent grading across the board. We need more secure cases the higher up the cost and rarity ladder you go. Don’t you think it odd that my copy of Ultimate Spiderman 1 gets the same exact treatment and holder of an Amazing Fantasy 15? That is kind of nutty right? And I’m embarrassed that I never even gave it a second thought. Anyway as Spock would say “Live long and prosper” my fellow comic friends! Hopefully what’s going on now is just a phase and will work its way through to a better comic environment.
And starting with that issue, Alan Grant wrote Batman on a monthly basis for 11 straight years (February 1988 - February 1999). That is a hell of an accomplishment, and it’s baffling that more fans don’t talk about it in the same breath as other longtime creator runs.
Ghost rider 28 is priced fine. Millions out there. Any I knew a guy during height of Covid who was batting 1000 on his 9.8 success rate (all pressed but all 9.8). So it’s too plentiful
Books are still selling for really cheap on Whatnot. I use too see allot of vintage now you don’t see much cause people get wrecked selling it. Cheers and have a great year.
Of all the books on this list preacher surprises me the most. It was not a highly printed issue and quite frankly the Paper stock. Isn’t that great to have a 98 drop solo is amazing.
It has nothing to do with "Value." People are desperate for cash and submitting to auctions for the holidays. Buyers like me are buying stuff at 40-50% of FMV on,y. When others are afraid be greedy.
Trying again - Could people now be more selective and not spreading the comic dollar around to what have come to be viewed as tertiary keys? Isn't this also a correction? Post FOMO, we may just be seeing the field a little more clearly that the schrubs have been removed.
Think about Justice League Task Force 6 that found the Doctor who fixed Bruce Waynes back to become Batman. This should be Important book on the return of Batman!
I myself was actually advised to actually Only basically collect the first Ten Issues of any and all types of various Characters and Titles actually Being published and eventually put out to Comic Collectors like as a kid myself back then in the mid 70's as this would most likely afford me to actually keep up with Many various types of Newer Comics and eventually avoiding on literally missing out on Every New Characters and Titles basically that would sometimes and could appear Every Month and to actually and eventually catch up with the Back Issues later on down the line,but nowadays there are just too Many Comics To actually Buy and Choose From Currently so now I actually hold on to all of my 1st Issues Of All Known Titles from (1966-2024)and actually watch how things are actually going for other Comic Book Collectors Themselves basically While actually searching for New Characters and Titles Titles nowadays in More efficient ways-"Thank,I will be watching." Yeah,Im actually One Of The Older Collectors of 55 years now,and still prefer actually Having the Older Comics nowadays but most of the Newer Comics Arent All That Bad.
Sorry for the second comment. But what's the best read for green lantern. I was always a fan from what I see but never really read anything. What do you recommend for my first go at green Lantern
Free money has run out which caused the inflated prices. Buy a book because you like it not as an investment and you will be okay. It's going to be difficult to get your money back from it.There are just so many copies of these comics...
Top 10 too low batman related, top ten too low spiderman related 10 character first who are sure to be in James Gunn’s DC movie universe, top 10 affordable/undervalued silver age, Bronze Age, golden age, bam!!
Best time to buy when the market is down like this.people don’t have money to spend on extra expenses and a lot of people are selling to make ends meet..the market will go back up eventually
"natural rate of inflation." No, this isn't an item that has a set price of, say, $30 day in and day out. These are collectibles that ebb and flow with demand. The best equation would be oil. Oil doesn't start at a price and rise every year because of inflation. It's a commodity that ebbs and flows due to certain conditions. Same with slabbed books. The Preacher show is over. No one knows much about this book and no one cares about this book from a collectible standpoint. Great reading BUT you can't read a slab.
These damn commercials. Just get me to the goods. As always. Thanks for the vid. You bring back the surge of me wanting to start collecting again.. I also hope to get a captain carrot. I'm in love with it!!! Lol
Want to know what hasn’t dropped? The new Transformers series from Image. There are crazy prices on variants at a 9.8, and dare I say, 9.9s on some of the issues!
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You are so right, the economics of the time can and do have a substantial impact on the value of things in the market. As prices for essentials at the grocery store climb, the amount of money the consumer has left for discretionary purchases diminishes which dictates what people are willing to spend on those non-essentials like comic book collectables
Good call on microchip, people be pushing the (Moo knight - cow knight) , Tim drake is alright but the more you dup a character it’s always diminishing returns, venom carnage toxin etc
This reflects my forecast from 8 months ago. Prices are currently plummeting, and it seems we haven't reached the lowest point yet. I anticipate that the bottom might not be reached for another 3 to 6 months. As you pointed out, now could be an excellent opportunity to acquire items at rock-bottom prices if you have disposable income.
The market always dictates the current price on collectibles, not trends or previous prices. I'm willing to bet all the 'outliers' that sell for cheap are purchases mainly by dealers like yourself hoping the price you're paying is low enough you can resell it at a profit. Just remember it can always go lower and you can end up with overpriced inventory unless you can hold on to it for what may be months or years, who knows!
I think a lot of people will hold onto their books until things start to recover, which will help boost the prices. If not, I'm gonna get some killer deals.
@@Stargayzer---yeah I sell what’s hot and hold my big boy stuff till it goes back up as well as I buy while it’s cheap. I never really do speculation books unless I plan on selling it quick
I've been seeing several GLs at back to or below 2020 prices. Even at places like heritage where it always seems like things are sold over-price.
Natural rate of inflation will cause collectibles to drop in price.
If you can't afford to buy food or pay rent/mortgage, you have to start liquidating your stuff. Collectibles are the first to go.
Correct!
Grading FEH! The only books that should be graded are ones that are normally expensive, I wouldn't grade a book unless it's worth more than $1000 or just good and unique. I'm using this market to get the stuff I sold years ago.
Have a few on this list. Picked up Vengeance for a dollar ( Feel up a short box for 50 dollars) at my local comic store.
Very informative I like this type of videos, may have to try and pick some of these
You should look at destroyer duck #1, alpha flight #1
Love these videos!! Please keep making them
No offense, but the biggest problem with most of these books are they feature characters no one cares about at the moment. For old-school Punisher readers, Micro-Chip is a big deal. But most current readers have no idea who he is. As far as Moon Knight, everyone is chasing that Werewolf by Night #32 rather than his first solo series. And a lot of the other books are just things that once were pretty popular, but have trended down. Or they're just not rare enough. Some will eventually go back up. And some have probably had their day. Like Preacher.
The funny thing about most of the comics listed in both videos is that they haven't really seen a value drop on raw copies, just slabbed copies. Moon Knight # 1 is probably the most significant drop on it's raw copy value. When everybody had Moon Knight Fever a few years back even random back issues with no key significance were selling for $20 - $30 at cons and online, and for years I've never seen a copy sell on eBay for under $100 in any condition. After years of trying, I just bought a raw 8.5 on eBay for $20 and I thought I'd gotten a hell of a deal...until I looked up the value and saw that it'd just dropped from $120 to $60. And $120 is what it dropped to after "market correction" from it's previous highs. Still, got it for one third of it's current FMV, so I'm hardly disappointed, but it's crazy how pretty much every Moon Knight comic across the board has plummeted like a stone...and still continue to drop.
It's definitely the Wild Wild West... I picked up a Batman 608 signed "jimlee" 9.8 for $190BO
I can't resist getting that Ventriloquist first appearance whenever I see it.
Its also a pretty nice Mignola cover.
Love watching your videos every day. Im a big DC guy myself have been eyeing Detective Comics 583 but haven’t got it yet. But hopefully I will soon
None of this surprises me. The population of collectors is shrinking. There are very few new entrants - virtually no kids, new comics are $3.99, sold ONLY in comic stores. So, with some number of long time collectors leaving the hobby because new stuff doesn't resonate with them, or they're ageing out (getting married / kids ) or dying. No pluses, only minuses, means there are less people to buy these and all the other 1000 supposedly "Key" modern books. Then when, those who leave dump them to a dealer, there's less people who want them, so dealers cut their prices. Wolverine, Punisher, Teen Titans, X-Men are mostly collected only by old-timers now, and the stampedes to Morbius, Modok, Taskmaster, Ms. Marvel, Moonknight, pass like gas, so even the newer collectors are worn out. There are far more copies of modern books than the number of people who want them. And, it's worse for 9.8 slabs - a $10 book that no one wants, in $30 of plastic, is not something that people will pay $60 for. Prices all modern books are heading down until a equilibrium is reached.
Ohhhh baby it’s a wild world…..especially when it comes to comics.
Thanks for this! Time for me and everyone else watching this video to look for these 😂😂😂
Great video!! Love the content. Can’t wait for the next video. Keep up the good work. Would love to own one of those Captain carrot figures. 😎
I’m curious why people say low census count to justify value? I get it with rarer books, but with more modern books it usually means it’s not incredibly important to encapsulate.
Supply vs demand
Overpriced book: Harbinger #1 9.8
Batman 423 is so overrated for me, glad I sold my copy. McFarlane said it's his easiest cover he ever made, he didn't do interior work like his Year 2 run which are better books.
I agree with you about Green Lantern #25 but .... I recently decided to collect the Geoff Johns Green Lantern run so if they hadn't come down I would have had to spend a lot more money on my Green Lantern #25.
Here’s where everyone throws rotten eggs at me for this opinion. So I worked at the very first comic book store in CT many many years ago. The owner was one of the comic retailer OGs and knew everyone in the business like Chuck from Mike High comics and many other long established comic book pioneers. So here’s my hot take. When CGC came on the scene he hated the concept and said they would end up killing our beautiful hobby. In many ways I have to agree. There are a lot of positives so I’m not coming at this like I’m a hater. So please give me some grace as it’s just an opinion. Here are some issues that I think have damaged the hobby. First if you’ve submitted to CGC I’m sure you’ve experienced the wild swings in grading consistency which sucks. I also feel that the census artificially manipulated grading. I won’t name names but having spoken with prominent folks at CGC I was disturbed by how they spoke of the census and how it influences grading i.e. if all of a sudden they think there are too many Avengers #4 Captain America returns copies in High grade then grading gets a lot harder. And that my friends goes against the spirit and charter of what CGC is supposed to be about! The grade should be the grade and not influenced by any factors other than the defects of the actual book. CGC has also killed pricing because the disparity between a raw and slabbed book is crazy and while I am on board with a difference in pricing as it should be - I think it’s way overboard. The health of the hobby is not good as back in the day folks actually bought the books to read and enjoy. I filled in runs and didn’t just care about “keys” as everyone is speculating like crazy. Now with the reholder scandal it feels like the hobby is in a really fragile state. I think it could be fixed but it has to start with consistent grading and not manipulating grading guidelines due to the census. The census should serve as a factual record keeping metric. If there are a gazillion 9.8s of a book so be it as long as the grading is consistent. We should dial the grading up or down because “too many copies are on the scene. I think the recent scandal puts CGC at a critical point in their history. Hopefully they make the right calls and learn from this. We need more consistent grading across the board. We need more secure cases the higher up the cost and rarity ladder you go. Don’t you think it odd that my copy of Ultimate Spiderman 1 gets the same exact treatment and holder of an Amazing Fantasy 15? That is kind of nutty right? And I’m embarrassed that I never even gave it a second thought. Anyway as Spock would say “Live long and prosper” my fellow comic friends! Hopefully what’s going on now is just a phase and will work its way through to a better comic environment.
Detective Comics #583 bums me. I bought a raw newsstand copy for $2. The CGC gave it back to me at 8.5. Probably my best find ever.
Detective Comics #583 was Alan Grant's 1st Batman story ! He just passed away in 2022
And starting with that issue, Alan Grant wrote Batman on a monthly basis for 11 straight years (February 1988 - February 1999). That is a hell of an accomplishment, and it’s baffling that more fans don’t talk about it in the same breath as other longtime creator runs.
Great information. Thank you.
I think people are just not buying comics as much lately so its not good for the sellers.
My LCS shut down last year but they had the bad luck of opening 6 months before the vid.
Ghost rider 28 is priced fine. Millions out there. Any I knew a guy during height of Covid who was batting 1000 on his 9.8 success rate (all pressed but all 9.8). So it’s too plentiful
Speedball #1
Having a wonderful time saving my money. Stacking up to buy later. Maybe 6 months from now.
All great comics. In my PC collection just having it an enough. And getting keys for affordable prices whether a reader of 9.8 is good for me.
I really dig your jacket. Where did you get it?
Books are still selling for really cheap on Whatnot. I use too see allot of vintage now you don’t see much cause people get wrecked selling it. Cheers and have a great year.
Of all the books on this list preacher surprises me the most. It was not a highly printed issue and quite frankly the Paper stock. Isn’t that great to have a 98 drop solo is amazing.
RIGHTTTTT????
I need to brush up on my green lantern keys, I swear they all look the same to me.
Y: The Last Man was such a great story. That price for a 9.8 is good news for me because I want to grab it!
Thanks for sharing Your passion and adventures Brother 😎 👍 ♥️ ✨️ 💯
Wow some surprising stuff on this list! Great video as always
Glad you enjoyed it
Luv luv luv the vids
It has nothing to do with "Value." People are desperate for cash and submitting to auctions for the holidays. Buyers like me are buying stuff at 40-50% of FMV on,y. When others are afraid be greedy.
Trying again - Could people now be more selective and not spreading the comic dollar around to what have come to be viewed as tertiary keys? Isn't this also a correction? Post FOMO, we may just be seeing the field a little more clearly that the schrubs have been removed.
I think it's more the economy is down and less fair weather collectors. Money it tight for many at the moment.
Think about Justice League Task Force 6 that found the Doctor who fixed Bruce Waynes back to become Batman. This should be Important book on the return of Batman!
These have been some great picks! I agree with so many of these books! I pick up a bunch when I can.
Same here!
Great video, keep'em coming.
Didn't you get a couple of those Ghost Rider's slabbed???😮
I just picked up Web of Spider-man 97 (Newsstand) in NM for $4. Crazy low prices. 😮
Ladies and Gentlemen, my first ever independent cgc order is away. New X-Men 133 trying for the 9.8. Mostly black cover so fingers crossed
Yesss
I myself was actually advised to actually Only basically collect the first Ten Issues of any and all types of various Characters and Titles actually Being published and eventually put out to Comic Collectors like as a kid myself back then in the mid 70's as this would most likely afford me to actually keep up with Many various types of Newer Comics and eventually avoiding on literally missing out on Every New Characters and Titles basically that would sometimes and could appear Every Month and to actually and eventually catch up with the Back Issues later on down the line,but nowadays there are just too Many Comics To actually Buy and Choose From Currently so now I actually hold on to all of my 1st Issues Of All Known Titles from (1966-2024)and actually watch how things are actually going for other Comic Book Collectors Themselves basically While actually searching for New Characters and Titles Titles nowadays in More efficient ways-"Thank,I will be watching."
Yeah,Im actually One Of The Older Collectors of 55 years now,and still prefer actually Having the Older Comics nowadays but most of the Newer Comics Arent All That Bad.
Sorry for the second comment. But what's the best read for green lantern. I was always a fan from what I see but never really read anything. What do you recommend for my first go at green Lantern
2005 Geoff John’s run. Honestly a possible perfect comic run, one of only a few that stayed great til the end last issue
@@MintHunterComics thanks bro!!!
Free money has run out which caused the inflated prices. Buy a book because you like it not as an investment and you will be okay. It's going to be difficult to get your money back from it.There are just so many copies of these comics...
Top 10 too low batman related, top ten too low spiderman related 10 character first who are sure to be in James Gunn’s DC movie universe, top 10 affordable/undervalued silver age, Bronze Age, golden age, bam!!
Best of 2024 for you!!!
That Moon Knight 1 price seems way low
Best time to buy when the market is down like this.people don’t have money to spend on extra expenses and a lot of people are selling to make ends meet..the market will go back up eventually
It's honestly such an amazing time to buy
Not sure what Iron Fist 14 has done but I always thought that book was on the cheap end.
Wolverine #1 went high again because of the new meh-pool movie. Waiting for the movie to come and go like i did with Darth Maul #2 (Cad Bane).
"natural rate of inflation." No, this isn't an item that has a set price of, say, $30 day in and day out. These are collectibles that ebb and flow with demand. The best equation would be oil. Oil doesn't start at a price and rise every year because of inflation. It's a commodity that ebbs and flows due to certain conditions. Same with slabbed books. The Preacher show is over. No one knows much about this book and no one cares about this book from a collectible standpoint. Great reading BUT you can't read a slab.
These damn commercials. Just get me to the goods. As always. Thanks for the vid. You bring back the surge of me wanting to start collecting again.. I also hope to get a captain carrot. I'm in love with it!!! Lol
I can't do anything about youtube ads hahahaha
@@MintHunterComics I know, I know
VERTIGO titles are difficult & mad volatile
Only SANDMAN 1 @ 9.8 seems to hold real value 'across the board'
Shame
Top 10 modern top low, top 10 Indy top low
Sorry batman 423 is one on my list I can't find one good enough all I can find is rough copies raw 8.0 or lower
Love it!
I recently got a Batman #436 9.8 for $82!!!
Nice score. The prices I see are all over the place.
Want to know what hasn’t dropped? The new Transformers series from Image. There are crazy prices on variants at a 9.8, and dare I say, 9.9s on some of the issues!
I had honestly no idea - but no that won't last
That Preacher book price is a travesty! 🤯
@CharlesCharles-bb6qx I'm not saying it's rare, just undervalued. 👍
Ugh Batman 423 is such an awesome book and it’s in my list for my Batman run but everywhere I find it it’s so expensive😭
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High grade raw Punisher 4 on Ebay right now for $4.98.
Wild - that's of course the raw price but yep!
Uncanny X-men 221 way too high always been
those are some great slabs. love them. #OnlySlabs #SLABFEVER
Guess it’s time to take advantage of these “deals” while we can. Appreciate the research so that I don’t have to. 😉
lololololol
Hate to see it!
Hi I subscribed. I would like to win the Captain Carrot figure. Keep up the good work.
You've got an entry!
Let's be honest, few to no people cares about any of these characters.
MOON KNIGHT? SCARFACE? AMERICA CHAVEZ? Nah man