Hi bro , I read one article on times of india news of a lost city in southern India which is called Poompuhar port city . They mentioned that this city may be over 15000 years old . Bring an archaeologist who knows about it to your show .
In my South India ..... Karnataka Kerala Telangana ap .. fair to brown yellowish skin hai ....aur straight hair bhi hai... Sharp facial structure ....but malayali Have curly hair .... With fair skin Sharp facial structure .... Tamilnadu people are dark skin
Few years back somebody had filed an RTI asking proof of the Aryan Invasion/Migration theory . The answer was "Sorry the information is not available" . Likewise many such RTIs have been sent to ask the proof of the so called benevolence of Mughals. And the answer was the same. This shows how badly Leftists and self proclaimed historians like To mila Thapar, Irfan Habib and others have manipulated their thoughts into our minds. Self proclaimed Historians claim to justify AIT/AIM -- Aryans brought horses to India during 2500BCE. Scientific Proof - Inscriptions of Horses and Chariots have been found in Bhimbetaka caves and rocks which are as old as 4500 BCE . Fake Historians Claim - Vedas were written in between 800-1000BCE . Scientific Claim- In Vedas , Saraswati river which vanished completely by 3000 BCE has been mentioned prominently . Now, when Vedas mention a river prominently it shows that , at that time when Vedas were written , Saraswati river was flowing in its full swing when there was no any possibility of river getting vanished . This ultimately supports the fact that Vedas were written THOUSANDS years ago from the fake timeline told by these fake historians. Fake Historians claim that Sanskrit is a foreign language that originated from Steppes and Caspian sea. 😅😅 Our take - Why on Earth would these so called outsiders would migration such a fertile soil like Steppe grassland and Caspian Sea kinda one of the largest fresh water lakes ??
The timeline started by British in india since 1800s- 1) Arryan invasion theory - 1800s to 2010 2) aaryan migration Theory- 2010 to 2022 3) aaryan holiday theory - 2022 to 2050 4) aaryan picnic theory - the last straw
Indoeuropeans invaded all over Eurasia, get over it. That doesn't mean Harappans + other autoctonous people didn't already were advanced, they obviously were. That's why Sanatana Dharma is so unique, because it's a mixture of Indoeuropeans (specifically Andronovo Aryans) mythology and very advanced autoctonous mythology. PS: Indians are Aryans, Europeans are Yamnaya. Cousins
When a Western scholar give something about India, people don't ask proofs and sources. But when an Indian scholar gives something with facts and proofs, people dislike and criticize it. Colonial mindset still prevails.
In my South India ..... Karnataka Kerala Telangana ap .. fair to brown yellowish skin hai ....aur straight hair bhi hai... Sharp facial structure ....but malayali Have curly hair .... With fair skin Sharp facial structure .... Tamilnadu people are dark skin
A friend of mine once said "If you want to convince Indians of something just convince some foreigner to your point and let the foreigner speak to the Indians"
By her logic, Jainism and Bhudism was spread through south India eventually to srilanka, China etc. But Hinduism is still the prominent religion in India. So there is a possibility that something can be forgotten in one place but lives in other place.
I was waiting for the expert to give her conclusions on the Aryan topic when Ranveer has to interrupt and goes off on an absurd irrelevant tangent. Please let the expert fully answer your previous question 🙏
@@Remielsekai wait for the host to complete answering your previous question before cross questioning. That's called etiquette. Once you understand that you can tell me what to do and not.
@@Odeepsea1356 I agree! Sometimes he asks some stupid questions. Also asks the hosts to explain the fundemantals which most of the viewers already have an idea about.
He didn't ran away in one day but his rule was crushed in Afghanistan in phases, I mean he didn't died because of an Indian sword but by Indian mosquitoes...Maybe...
He don't have the GUTS to attack the large Indian kingdom of that time that is " magadha ".......... because one of its (magadha's) small western neighbour ruled bya person named Porus has thareshed Alexander and his forces black and blue ............. Out of fear Alexander went back
Another merothi with their poor pathetic vocab & wrong spelling 💩 rAjEsHri does NOT exist FYI, Rajashri does but it's a feminine name. Is it too hard to understand or the ignorance is deliberate??! It's RA-JAR-SHI, quite common Bengali "masculine" name.
As a scholar of history, this lady's fresh approach gives me hope for academic discourses around the Indian history, which will be unburdened from any limited thinking towards our collective past.
@@dreamsofadaffodil650 she is saying that aryan invasion is a myth cause there is no scientific evidence. She is forced to say this because we are the decent of aryan's. The real vedic culture is not the culture of the country called india. If this truth comes out propaganda campaign will lose its authenticity
The lady ur talking about is a scholar in Archaeology & Ancient History and as years of experience and is important part in Excavation at Rakhighari (largest Harappan site) so please see credentials before saying anything
U think RUclips videos are eligible to add portions in schools?. Aryan migration theory is most accepted theory. Disprove it in university papers with enough research. Not in RUclips video
I always put this theory of mine regarding similarities between Sanatana Dharma and Zoroastrianism- In the Battle of 10 kings there were a clan named Parsua which is basically of people of Persia means Iran, And in the battle of 10 Kings Bharata King was helped by Lord Indra which helped him to win the war and probably after that the poeple of Parsua stopped worshipping Indra and devas and may be they assumed that Asura or Ahuras are good and may be that's how Zoroastrianism's perspective about Daiva or Deva is always demonic, just because Indra didn't help them.
I think you have a point The Iranians called Sindh as Hindu Likely therefore called Asura as Ahura Possibly a inability to use S but replace with H Interestingly the Zoroastrian culture was an existing civilization with Darius as the Emperor As Usual the invasion of Persia threw them to the sea and they migrated East to India and today’s Pakistan
Persia was known as Parama Kamboja in ancient times. Persia was the name given to it by Greeks named after the province of Pars from where the Achaemenid dynasty kings originated. Which means the so called Persians were actually related to Kambojas, Daradas and Madras.
Bhagwat Geeta was spoken around 5,450 years back . This one fact is enough to destroy fake aryan Invasion theory. sources- you still have dwarka in Gujrat and Ram setu in South which can still be seen . Finished 😂😂
Yes a bridge built by monkeys and squirrels… it is nothing but a natural formation.. if only these politicians keep religion aside and implement sethu samudra plan India would have gained a lot economically
They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
There's hardly any R1a in the Middle East. It's prevalent in Iran, Afghanistan, Tadjikistan and Europe. Also it's present in the Indian Subcontinent, as far east as Bangladesh and as far south as Sri Lanka.
Yes. The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Even without the discovery of Harappa it is sheer nonsense to think that Indian civilization started with Alexander. What about the thousands of temples and palaces in the Indian subcontinent that show architecture but also art and designs unrelated to Greek or Roman.
@@Stephenvguerrawhat the hell with mittani? The mittani evidence conclusively proves out of India theory. The Indian researcher Talageri has shown how the Mittani traveled out after some of Rig-Veda is composed. They have words which did develop in India much later and do not fit in Aryan invasion timeline.
The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
The first indo europeans (from Yamnaya) were white, but the aryans, their descendants, were brown, because the creators of Sanskrit were mixed with the more ancient indians
Without the Aryan invasion theory, how do we explain the radical difference in the South Indian languages originating from Old Tamil and the North Indian languages originating from Sanskrit?
How do you explain the commonalities in pronunciation and the substratum influence in North Indian languages? Even the oldest stage of Sanskrit in the Rigveda has words of Dravidian origin.
@@SugiSeufz I have not read much into Aryan Invasion theory. I suppose the Aryans conquered the Dravidian races and subjugated them, but as the Dravidian races were more advanced culturally, the Aryan adopted the ideas and practices of the Dravidians in their own writings and lifestyle.
@@melroycorrea7720 If we look at History, irrespective of the geographical location, then any Invasion and subsequent Subjugation resulted in the complete loss of the native culture or the native culture had next to no influence on the invading culture. That was seen in the invasion of the Americas by the Europeans. In the case of India it must've been a peaceful intermingling, otherwise there wouldn't have been the adoption of Dravidian words into Sanskrit, no Synthesis of Aryan and Dravidian beliefs to result in what we now know as Hinduism and there wouldn't be any male mediated Aryan DNA as far south as South India and Sri Lanka and male mediated Dravidian DNA influence as far north as Afghanistan.
I wish now children has to be taught right history , children must know our rich culture,they must know about our Rishi Muni, like sushrut who was perfect surgeon agastya, vashist Rishi there are so manyrishi Ranveer make podcast on our saptrishis🙏❤️
Those great people you talking about came from Europe and Central Asia thousands of years ago. Who knows. Why do you think North Indians have more european features?? Because they came and mixed with native indian population. This is enough proof to support the theory.
@@babupasha3491 was ram even a real person or was he a fictional character ? I've heard many theories that if ramayan happened then it must have happened somewhere near the Afghanistan iran side , it must be some conflict between the Aryan tribes which might have gotten exaggerated over time or it might be a complete forged up fake story.
But she needs to be true to her word. She said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
What about the DNA traces shared amongst light-skin indians and Yamnaya? I believe this archaeologist problem is the word "invasion". Call it what you want. Modern day indians have Western Europe DNA.
Yes! They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
I'd recommend you to listen to the talk delivered by Mr. Raj Vedam on the RUclips channel Sangam Talks titled Indian Civilization: The Untold Story. It's a fascinating lecture where he speaks in length about the veracity of the Aryan Invasion Theory with lots of diverse evidence. He speaks about Yamnaya as well and also presents further evidence that disproves it. I hope you will find it very illuminating.
Whether Aryan invasion theory is true or false is not a question. The question is using the theory according to convenience. The upper caste during the colonial period used this theory to show the close relations with Europeans. But now when it is discussed in a public sphere where everybody gets the knowledge about the original places of Aryans, a competition is started to disprove the theory.
It's false and the premise of your that's the upper caste was living it up during in the colonial period my guy Bharmins along with of every other caste and religions went to the Caribbean under indentured workers into colonial slavery so your whole special treatment speal is pretty garbage. Everyone suffered during the colonial period only the people who did not is the ones who made deals with the Bristish did not that's a fact.
@@VSM101 They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Its clear from comments section that many of us Indians want only the "Out of India theory" (OIT) and see AMT as a European conspiracy. Anyone who disagrees even with counter evidence is slandered in the most un-Hindu manner. Interestingly, when the same foreign historians unearthed and praised Indus Valley Civilization, deciphered Brahmi script, made Sanskrit/Buddhism/Yoga/Indian Temple architecture popular, we loved it!! No questions asked!! It’s an interesting display of narcissistic "we are better than you / we are victims" bipolar attitude. Science says mixed race happens when mammals of purer race (नस्ल या जाति) mingle. Same thing can be seen by pet lovers (eg. Interbreeding between different types (race if you will) of dogs). But for these OIT supporters, reverse is true. Aryans in Steppes region were created from Mixed race Indians (Aryans + natives) who travelled to Steppes. Go figure!!
Yes. The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
@@christianfrommuslim These are "woke" historians who will make unscientific and emotional claims without adequate evidence. They will not be able to publish their work in any international journal. Not even Africa.
@@Indo-Aryan9644 Yes. The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
This is interesting podcast that came on my utube feed today, for 2 reasons. 1. I was discussing this with one guy in office after I overheard a discussion where same pedantic obnoxious stuff came up where that guy was talking of Dravidian & Tamil culture being great & the usual Dravidian Political language dressed with sickular idea that more bloody conversion & killings happened in ancient India & almost everything was of Buddhist or of Jain orgin, etc. 2.Other reason it is interesting is that this feed came up, indicating the umpteenth time to me that Google (RUclips/Android) is listening conversations.
@@gaswhole you probably didn't understand what you read in the 2nd point I mentioned. It didn't have anything to do with nationality. But it's okay, everyone cannot use their brain effectively to understand things when it conflicts with their biases they have carefully grown in their head.
@@rohitghildiyal8643 I got that point, but was there any need to add "Indian" system in there ?? Which is the Indian system S/he is referring to?? Let me know if you are aware of. But, while I mentioned this, even then, I can say that I can be wrong in here, to read the sarcastic intention of his/her comment. May be S/he was not being sarcastic or rather caustic with his/her response. But who knows.
It is a fact that Aryans came into India from outside during the timeframe that was mentioned, Nowadays the propaganda tries to show nothing of that sort happened - which are lies and misinformation in the name of nationalism. By this, I don't mean Aryans were superior - they were just different people who needed to come to India for a better life here. And in no way is a White superior to a Brown or a brown superior to a Black - that's bullshit. But the truth remains that Aryans came from outside (specifically from Kazakh - Ukraine belt) and settled here and mingled with the local guys forming the crux of the major Indians today.
Yes. They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
@@atacama1000 Genetic date has shown that a migration by the aryans is true. Honestly if your from north indian this is badass, it just sucks if your from south india because you were enslaved
Below are my two cents: So-called Aryan invasion was not an "invasion", technically it was a periodic and gradual "migration", I repeat, migration. Ancestors of the Aryans came from present-day Ukraine and marched ourwards in all directions from thereon. One group came south-east to Turkey and marched thereupon to Persia and then India, hence the similarities between Old Persian and Sanskrit.
@Bikki Barman 1. Genetic differences between people from the northern and southern extremities of India. Many of the individuals from India's northern extremity possess Europoid / Iranic physical features like long noses, high cheek bones, lighter skin tone, light eyes, etc, in contrast to those from the southern extremity. 2. Sanskrit has much more in common than languages like Lithuanian, Russian, Persian, Latin etc. than Dravidian languages like Tamil, Malayalam, etc. Even though separated by more than a thousand years, Sanskrit and Russian have a lot of similar sounding cognates, for example Fire is Agni in Sanskrit and Ogneom in Russian. Lithuanian is even more similar to Sanskrit and has thousands of closely related cognates, something which is astounding. As to the above points, you'll find plenty of evidence on the internet. Once you've gone through all that, just analyze your findings.
@@karangurtu 1. There's no studies that prove that North Indians are vastly different from South Indians, both physically and genetically. There's only minor genetic differences like North Indians having slightly more elevated steppe and Iran_N ancestry. 2. the existence of different language families in India doesn't prove that Indo-Aryan was brought by people from the steppe. There's zero archeological evidence of any steppe intrusion into South Asia. The PGW culture in India which was identified to be Indo-Aryan predates the existence of Sintashta who were believed to be the Proto-Indo Iranians, clearly disproving the Aryan migration.
@Bad Karma Come on, refuting of Aryan influx and migration is just a political agenda who fear division of their vote bank. How can you state that genetic and language differences between various parts of India do not constitute an evidence?!!! That's exactly what an evidence looks like. For something that happened more than 3000 years ago, with migration happening continuously over a gradual period of more than 1000 years, archaeological evidences are extremely hard to find. That doesn't refute the theory that there was an influx of outsiders who rode horses and used tools of iron, both of which were absent in the subcontinent before. Along with that came the Vedic religion, which absorbed traits of locally present Indian elements, and gradually evolved over a period of two thousand years in the Indo-Gangetic plains to give way to our modern-day Hinduism. I say Indo-Gangetic plains, because the Hinduism prevalent in remote regions of former Pakistan, Kashmir, Himachal, etc was much different and still retains significant elements of the earlier Vedic religion. Analyze these finds for once. Existence of Sanskrit-derived Indo-Aryan languages is a big evidence which cannot be refuted. Vedic Sanskrit did not develop within the subcontinent, it came from outside it. Earlier there were just Dravidian languages being spoken within the subcontinent. Gradually they too were influenced by Sanskrit and absorbed a lot of loanwords from it. And after thousands of years of Aryan migration arose our modern day Indians, essentially a mixed race population having a plethora of genetic features with borrowed physical traits, along with their composite Hindu religion, which was heterogeneous and had both general and localized features.
@@karangurtu u are right i was also trying to say that, but how can I just alone make awareness about the topic among thousands that's why i quit commenting on this topic
Myths regarding Aryan Migration Theory (Read full):- 1. "NORTH INDIANS ARE FOREIGNERS AND SOUTH INDIANS ARE NATIVE":- Actually Mainland Indians are descended from 3 groups:- Steppe Pastoralists ("Aryan"), Zagrosian Neolithic Farmers , and the first Group that arrived in India 'AASI'. Only difference is North Indians generally have higher proportions of Aryan genes than South Indians. 2. "THIS WESTERN CONSPIRACY WANTS TO IMPLY ARYANS BROUGHT SANSKRIT AND VEDA TO INDIA" Sanskrit, in its Vedic form was developed in India. Vedas were also developed in India. They formed after Aryan already came to India 3. "ARYAN DESTROYED INDUS VALLEY CIVILIZATION" Indus Valley civilization's collapse may have to do with Floods or drought (most probable). Aryans migrated to India towards IVC's end. 4. "HINDUISM IS OUTSIDE RELIGION" or "HINDUISM IS NATIVE RELIGION". Aspect of Hinduism (which itself is a combination of different faiths, beliefs, tradition and to an extent philosophies) derive from many different practices. Folk elements of hinduism are derived from. Local folk religion. Many of the rigvedic deities are descended of gods in proto indo European gods such as Agni, Varuna. Some may have derived from IVC gods but we aren't sure. Some may have also been borrowed from BMAC. 5. "AMT IS WESTERN PROPOGANDA TO IMPLY EUROPEANS CAME TO INDIA TO CIVILIZE IT" Saying Aryans are central asian or European is pathetic. Modern European themselves are descended from 3 groups:- Steppe Pastoralists, Early European Farmers (also called Anatolian Neolithic Farmers) and Western Hunter Gatherers. Indo Europeans migrated to two direct:- West to Europe and (East to central Asia and eventually South to Iran and indian subcontinent) So I have 2 more things to say 1. To South Indians:- Do not have the notation that you are native and North Indians (sp. Brahmins) are invaders. Simple genetic ancestry reveals that most Indians have not AASI or Aryan but Zagrosian Neolithic Farmer (who are from iran) component in plurality. Even you have Aryan genes to an extent. And do not believe in racial theories of Caucasoid or mongoloid etc 2. To North Indians:- You are not invaders. Migration is common throughout human history as there was no borders back then. Significant ancestors were from steppes is nothing to feel bad for. For everyone eventually migrated out of sub Saharan Africa.
They say to take emotion out of the consideration of Aryan involvement. OK, let's look at science: Now there are many, many genetic studies which scientifically prove that the Yamnaya people of the Russian steppes, aka Aryans, migrated into and genetically mixed with all the native races in the Indo-European language map. This includes North Indians. Why is that hard to accept?
@@rickycool6083 The Yamnaya/Aryans came from the Russian steppes. The oldest peoples in India are in the south. There is evidence that they migrated there from Africa.
@@christianfrommuslim If we agree that Aryans bought the culture to India...was there any evidence of the culture Aryans were practicing in yamnaya region? If Aryans bought the culture then there should be evidence of that culture being practiced in Yamnaya region by aryans...do we have that evidence?
@christianfrommuslim ok now give the evidence that on any vedic scripture there is a mention of aryan homeland, give the evidence of any vedic prayer or hym who can identify the the places of Central Asia or wherever they were from. Because the aryan must have write any information about their original homeland on vedic scripture so give the authentic proof here.
It's in Uttarakhand as well, we call it Jagar. We can communicate with our ancestors and certain other deities and gods by invoking their spirits in a human body.
The readily apparent differences in physical appearance within the Indian population, unlike the more uniform features observed in populations from regions like China, Africa, and Europe, suggest a historical mixing of distinct groups. The general variation in skin color and physical traits between North and South Indians points to the integration of two different populations in the past. These observable distinctions lend credence to the concept of the Aryan Migration Theory (AMT), which, rather than suggesting an invasion, implies a gradual blending of cultures and peoples. This theory is more accurately termed the Aryan Migration Theory instead of the Aryan Invasion Theory, reflecting a more nuanced understanding of historical population movements.
Yes, according to physical appearance, there are many races within India. That is OK. However, The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
@@christianfrommuslim Your point about Yamnaya DNA and its connection to Indo-European languages is indeed insightful, reflecting the significant role of steppe migrations in shaping the genetic and linguistic landscape of Eurasia. Nearly all critics of the AIT are unaware of the legendary Yamnaya culture.
There is not "neutral" approach. Indians have indo DNA and were ruled over by indo-europeans for thousands of years. Much like the mongols didn't with india.
@@RustieFawn Yes! They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Indus valley civilization is 8000 yrs old and they are way more developed cities. They use to live peacefully. No politics, no religion, no army, no Natural enemies. This civilization stays for 5000 yrs. They migrated from sindhu to Ganga river. Why they Vanished there are no evidence..From Harappa to mohenjodaro the distance is 690km. So they use to well connected too.
No. There is now overwhelming scientific evidence of Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages. They should have mentioned this.
South Indians must watch this who believe in Aryan & Dravidian theories saying Kannada & Tamil are the oldest languages & independent from Sanskrit. Then what about Dwarka city proof or Ram Setu going back Lakh years as per Yugas?
The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
There has been similarity in the R1A1 haplogroup among the high caste in North india and the eastern european country which suggests that in history these people were related. Yamnaya people had the same features in both of them. Yamnaya violently attacked the neolithic culture of Western europe. But what happened in the Indian subcontinent is still unknown
did you see how many of the samples & from where??? did you check which were termed as higher caste?? and do you think there was one migration INTO India?? There is archelogy, sociology, anthropology, history, epigraphy, philology etc BUT people want to CONFIRM based just on EPIGENETICS alone. Not only that politics/political party & ostracization just based on maximum 5 scientific journals. BS to say it kindly
@@bonitokumar4977 Actually it's proved it. How can people lived in Indus valley doesn't have Aryan DNA or whatever u call it. But today's North Indians have it?. Where did this DNA entered India. That is where Aryan migration theory comes to solve this missed piece.
The Aryan invasion theory was also used to drive a deep wedge between North and South India. South Indians were told you are the original Indians etc etc etc
They said to unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
You people should be grateful to Europeans for even discovering the Indus Valley civilization. You would have never even known it existed. Nor was it "Hindu" other than one reference to yoga from a seal. Nor would you know about Indus Valley trading forts, such as those in Central Asia, which were also discovered by Europeans.
I think some questions are pertinent: 1) Why do skeletons excavated from Rakhigarhi (an Indus Valley site) lack any steppe, anatolian or Iranian farmer genetic components which are otherwise found in abundance in modern day indians, particularly among north indians? 2) What can be the possible explanations for linguistic similarities between Dravidian languages of the South, and the northern dravidian languages and dialects?
South India was almost never invaded so you can't find their genes, and you will these elements in North because they assimilated with us. Not just similarities betweensouth languages for example many words in Telugu have exact matching word in pure Hindi. Today's Hindi is islamised.
@Ex muslim cool 😎 every race has its own set of distinguishable common genes. the existence of any particular race is impossible without those particular set of physical genetic traits.
Aryan invasion theory has since long been replaced now by the Aryan migration theory. This is very common knowledge now. I can understand her exasperation with his question on the Aryan invasion theory in the beginning of the video. This guy needs to be more aware.
It's unfortunate to see this obsession with a term 'invasion' when discussing whether or not a different group of humans entered India long after earlier groups had no doubt entered the country beforehand. When we consider human migration patterns out of Africa as a new form of hominids called Homo Sapiens, it was not unusual for groups to 'invade', or if one wishes 'entered' an area already occupied. The sciences like Population Genetics and Molecular Biology confirm multiple genetic transformations occurring for different human groups as we continually migrated to and fro---sometimes moving en masse in waves of human migrations out of Africa or from other later settlements. The bottom line, the essence of who we are as a species, is that we are ALL members of the same Human Family, This perspective is a reality that was long hidden from human eyes until the latest Messenger from God, Baha'u'llah, informed formally and clearly what orevious Messengers were not mandated by God to disclose to humanity. Until humanity reached its potential of expressing a degree of spiritual, cultural, and intellectual maturity so as to be able to grasp this long-hidden reality of our Oneness. The current debates of invasion-non invasion, ad nauseam, are the products of human thought that has yet to acquaint itself with the Message of Baha'u'llah and its connection with the findings of the Biological sciences which happened after Baha'u'llah stated His Vision of "The Oneness of Humanity". The axis around which the entire Revelation of Baha'u'llah revolves. I am Aaron---An Afro-American Baha'i in New Hampshire.
when will this gentleman have a rounded discussion on the Dalits and baba saheb ambedkar , to get the real perspective of " culture" , that he always goes abt gassing rather than the biased bamanical Kaleidoscope he perceives his reality
You should do a round table podcast like what rajiv masand did!!.. Think about it.. People knowledge on history and with abhijeet chavda on the table🔥🔥🔥
Yes. There's no Aryan invasion. If we agree with the Aryan invasion then the question arises that Aryan also migrated to other places other than india. There's sanskrit, varna ashrama dharma, vedantha etc only in India. Ok. If Aryan were the owner of sanskrit, then that would be prevalent in all places they migrated. If Aryan is from North then why are all the pancha bhutta stalas are in South india. Why aryan God parshuram is associated with Kerala. All Aryan Gods are black in color. So Aryan invasion is a myth created by the British to divide our society to rule.
Like so many non-scientists is Ranveer looking for traces of his own identity while the scientists are interested in the broader picture. Egocentric vs enlightened
@@alfreddaniels3817 I think you're referring to the true self of an individual human being, who am I, why am I here, and things like these. In that case, I would suggest you watch his other podcasts. Those topics have also been discussed many times in different podcasts of his
Yes. The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Who ever mentioned where that Alexander started Indian civilization. From what little I know of Alexander's quest to conquer the world he was encouraged by his teacher to lands of mystics in the east which he had heard of perhaps by earlier greek philosophers (Scylax and Ctesias) who happened to go east wards and meet ancient Indians. People should be careful on what they say especially when they are trying to justify their point.
Moshin Raza Khan was very biased while talking about Aryan Invasion Theory. I commented when he was in the podcast, and I comment now whe she is here. Not speculating, I don't know his motivations behind promoting and promulgating aryan invasion Theory in a podcast that so many watch despite there being no evidence to substantiate his words. One more thing he said about the origins or various religions was that" religion evolved over time in order to incorporate more and more people into it. Newer the religion more inclusive it is, all to bring a universality ". However the newer religions are the most exclusive if one goes by the theological texts and practices worldover. I don't want to sound communal but it was apparent that he wanted to put Islam, one among the newest religions, into somewhat a good light or make an impression that it is the most inclusive and universal. Putting superlatives over ones beliefs is the worst practice an individual can do, especially when so many are listening.
They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
If there was no aryan migration or invation then this show would have been in sanskrit and all the indians would have understood that intead of english
Good one! Indus script has been successfully deciphered in the paper 'Deciphering Indus script as a Cryptogram by Yajnadevam' and he explains the whole decipherment in a video presentation given to Sangam talks on RUclips. His decipherment shows the Indus seals and other artifacts are used to write a form of Sanskrit and the symbols used there are pre-cursor of Brahmi script ( from which today's Hindi, Tamil and other North Indian scripts are derived. Kannada and Telugu have their own modern script but before that they might've used Brahmi too ) Most importantly, there are so many Vedic references like Ravi, Varuna, Agni etc... in Indus seals and writings.
@@stardust2045 did you even read my comment or just saw Hindi and Tamil used in a single sentence and started typing your response?!! Today's Hindi and Tamil both have their scripts derived from same script i.e. Brahmi. That's what I've said in the original comment as well. Also I now learnt that Kannada-Telugu script is also inspired by Brahmi. Brahmi to Southern Brahmi ( with 3-4 extra letters ) to Kadamba script to Today's Kannada Telugu script. The most important point I was trying to make in the original comment was that, we had a wrong assumption so far that Brahmi itself is derived from Aramaic but by Yajnadevam's decipherment of Indus script, we now know with proof that Brahmi is derived from Sindhu Saraswathi script!!
Yes, the Aryan Historian, not real Historian. They discarded it because they are afraid they too acknowledged as an invader, just like the barbaric Muslim from the North.
Yes! The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
@@christianfrommuslim I never understood one thing. The ancient skeleton don't carry R1a haplogroup. But present day population carry this extensively. So does that debunk the arrival of this haplogroup at a later stage or confirms the arrival?
timid, incompetent archeology dept. of india not explored: 1. temples of tajmahal, kutubminar, 2. ellora kailasa mandir 3. carbon dating of gyanwapi 4. dwaraka - ocenography evidence 5. mathura temple inside mosque 6. carvings , carbon dating of thousands of temples wrapped as superficial mosque 7 carvings of thousands of temples which praveen mohan explored and apologetic tries to slow poision that sanatan civilization is not the greatest.
They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Dont trust all these western theories..go and read tirumala charitra..bharat is described in all scriptures also..If hindusim is based on aryans theory then how tirupati existed so long yrs ago and how kailash temple existed so long yrs ago, y 9jwaalaas are coming in jwalamukhi temple..this is karma bhoomi, veda bhoomi..jai bharat jai hind
But there is linguistic relation between the ancient mother language of north india i.e sanskrit with the other ancient european languages. Because of which we term this language class as indo-european languages. So it could be a defined proof of the aryan migration theory. And the localisation of the dravidian languages to south india could also show some kind of pushing from north during earlier times.
Yes. The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Linguistics are indeed the reason the invasion/migration theory was first proposed, by William Jones in the 18th century. There is also a small local dravidian language in Pakistan which suggests Dravidian was spoken all across the subcontinent before Sanskrit took over the north. In western Europe the local Basque language (northern Spain/southern France) also survived from neolithic times while Indo European languages spread everywhere else. Aryans were just one Indo European tribe from the steppe, other tribes also migrated all over Europe, which was then peopled with indigenous Europeans (the ones who put up standing stones like Stonehenge). It's something people who reject the migration don't even know. IE tribes were from around the Black Sea. Not Europe per se. They migrated to Europe the same way they migrated to India. Also, recent DNA studies show all modern Indians have some steppe ancestry, while IVC people didn't have it. Suggesting steppe migrants came in after the times of IVC.
Sumerians called the people of Indus Valley civilisation as Meluhha. The Indo-Aryans migrants called them Mleccha non-Vedic "barbarians" in Vedic Sanskrit.
Most of this anti-AIT proponents cite their evidence from religious texts,scriptures, mythological stories rather than from scientifically validated genetic data and then go on to explain why Aryan migration theory is false.
The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
North india, central Asia, west Asia long inhabited by indo-iranian people . Later turks invaded central Asia replacing indo-iranian people there. Thus creating huge barrier between russia and India. Thus creating illusion that Aryans might have come to india from Russia. But this is wrong. Aryans are indigenous to India.
Yes. Aryan Invasion theory has no base, but a lot of evidence supports the theory of gradual Aryan migration from Central Asia into the Indian Subcontinent.
Yes! They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Exactly! The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
It is difficult to prove a prehistoric invasion archeologically. But you can infer it indirectly if you read early chapters of rig vedas that suggest the animosity of vedic aryans over the local harrappans based on their appearance, worshipping traditions , and destroying their cities, etc and also from skeletal excavations. It is not a full-scale war, but you can't ignore battle scale fights. By nature, humans are also territorial. If suddenly 50 some gujaratis buy local lands and build houses in thakur village in UP, i am sure there will be bulldozers lined up to destroy them in spite of all being Indians. Same happen when bihari snatch jobs in maharashtra , Tamilnadu, etc. 😅
Aryan invasion disproved ah ha ha - good joke. The so called Brahmins were Aryans. This Brahmins were outsiders. Indus valley civilization is not an Vedic civilization. These Aryan Brahmins kept on fighting on taking the credit of indus valley civilization to themselves. The Indus valley civilization god's were not Indira rudra as per archeological evidence As claimed by Aryans. These are zorasta god's. Taken by Aryans from them. The Indus valley civilization kodumamal civilization keeladi civilization ( south india) scripts are very well linked.
Yes. There is now overwhelming scientific evidence of Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages. They should have mentioned this.
@ianfrommuslim Then percentage of Aryan DNA in India becomes higher as you go from the south to the north. And goes higher still as you go up the castes, with brahmins having the most Aryan DNA. The reality is, caste were clearly formed around ethnicity and sub-ethnicity. There is a reason why the minority of Indians who live in the north, bordering the Middle East look more like Persians than other Indians. FYI - The word "Iran" also comes from the word "Aryan"
I would highly recommend to decipher Rigveda to understand the history as it talks about Saraswati river as existed about 20000 BCE back, which has been proved by the archiological survey of Saraswati. There is a program by Nilesh Oak, which can be found on RUclips.
This piece needs get viral 👇 Few years back somebody had filed an RTI asking proof of the Aryan Invasion/Migration theory . The answer was "Sorry the information is not available" . Likewise many such RTIs have been sent to ask the proof of the so called benevolence of Mughals. And the answer was the same. This shows how badly Leftists and self proclaimed historians like To mila Thapar, Irfan Habib and others have manipulated their thoughts into our minds. Self proclaimed Historians claim to justify AIT/AIM -- Aryans brought horses to India during 2500BCE. Scientific Proof - Inscriptions of Horses and Chariots have been found in Bhimbetaka caves and rocks which are as old as 4500 BCE . Fake Historians Claim - Vedas were written in between 800-1000BCE . Scientific Claim- In Vedas , Saraswati river which vanished completely by 3000 BCE has been mentioned prominently . Now, when Vedas mention a river prominently it shows that , at that time when Vedas were written , Saraswati river was flowing in its full swing when there was no any possibility of river getting vanished . This ultimately supports the fact that Vedas were written THOUSANDS years ago from the fake timeline told by these fake historians. Fake Historians claim that Sanskrit is a foreign language that originated from Steppes and Caspian sea. 😅😅 Our take - Why on Earth would these so called outsiders would migration such a fertile soil like Steppe grassland and Caspian Sea kinda one of the largest fresh water lakes ??
the narrative that aryan migration brought caste system is very weak especially the way its told by tony joseph, the mentioned timeline dint have caste but 1000 years later they had.The reason because there were "liberal" aryan who were against caste system. Then after 1000 years they decided it seems "okay lets have the caste system " 🤣🤣
Link to our blog - beerbiceps.com/indian-archaeologist-shares-vedic-truths-breaks-aryan-theory/
Aryan Invasion Theory is TRUE, just like Mohal's invasion.. First of all She does not even look like a archeologist. Better luck next time.
Hi bro , I read one article on times of india news of a lost city in southern India which is called Poompuhar port city . They mentioned that this city may be over 15000 years old . Bring an archaeologist who knows about it to your show .
In my South India ..... Karnataka Kerala Telangana ap .. fair to brown yellowish skin hai ....aur straight hair bhi hai... Sharp facial structure ....but malayali Have curly hair .... With fair skin Sharp facial structure .... Tamilnadu people are dark skin
already proved aryan invation theory. your channel promoting lies without giving proof and so called archaelogist lol
Few years back somebody had filed an RTI asking proof of the Aryan Invasion/Migration theory . The answer was "Sorry the information is not available" . Likewise many such RTIs have been sent to ask the proof of the so called benevolence of Mughals. And the answer was the same. This shows how badly Leftists and self proclaimed historians like To mila Thapar, Irfan Habib and others have manipulated their thoughts into our minds.
Self proclaimed Historians claim to justify AIT/AIM -- Aryans brought horses to India during 2500BCE.
Scientific Proof - Inscriptions of Horses and Chariots have been found in Bhimbetaka caves and rocks which are as old as 4500 BCE .
Fake Historians Claim - Vedas were written in between 800-1000BCE .
Scientific Claim- In Vedas , Saraswati river which vanished completely by 3000 BCE has been mentioned prominently . Now, when Vedas mention a river prominently it shows that , at that time when Vedas were written , Saraswati river was flowing in its full swing when there was no any possibility of river getting vanished . This ultimately supports the fact that Vedas were written THOUSANDS years ago from the fake timeline told by these fake historians.
Fake Historians claim that Sanskrit is a foreign language that originated from Steppes and Caspian sea. 😅😅
Our take - Why on Earth would these so called outsiders would migration such a fertile soil like Steppe grassland and Caspian Sea kinda one of the largest fresh water lakes ??
The timeline started by British in india since 1800s-
1) Arryan invasion theory - 1800s to 2010
2) aaryan migration Theory- 2010 to 2022
3) aaryan holiday theory - 2022 to 2050
4) aaryan picnic theory - the last straw
🤣 so true...
5) aaryan vlogging theory - 2018 - present. They came to explore india they also vlogged.
Indoeuropeans invaded all over Eurasia, get over it. That doesn't mean Harappans + other autoctonous people didn't already were advanced, they obviously were. That's why Sanatana Dharma is so unique, because it's a mixture of Indoeuropeans (specifically Andronovo Aryans) mythology and very advanced autoctonous mythology.
PS: Indians are Aryans, Europeans are Yamnaya. Cousins
Epic 🤣🤣🤣
@@swampraider3488 Europeans are also aryans if you look at Spanish, English, Portuguese languages are derived from Sanskrit language
When a Western scholar give something about India, people don't ask proofs and sources. But when an Indian scholar gives something with facts and proofs, people dislike and criticize it. Colonial mindset still prevails.
Yep 👍
Worshipping west is in our blood
In my South India ..... Karnataka Kerala Telangana ap .. fair to brown yellowish skin hai ....aur straight hair bhi hai... Sharp facial structure ....but malayali Have curly hair .... With fair skin Sharp facial structure .... Tamilnadu people are dark skin
So you mean to say that there is no proof on which western historians suggest a theory?? Such an ignorant mindset.
And our politicians made this agenda to win elections and spread hate 🥲
A friend of mine once said "If you want to convince Indians of something just convince some foreigner to your point and let the foreigner speak to the Indians"
I am that friend😂
By her logic, Jainism and Bhudism was spread through south India eventually to srilanka, China etc. But Hinduism is still the prominent religion in India. So there is a possibility that something can be forgotten in one place but lives in other place.
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I was waiting for the expert to give her conclusions on the Aryan topic when Ranveer has to interrupt and goes off on an absurd irrelevant tangent. Please let the expert fully answer your previous question 🙏
@@Remielsekai wait for the host to complete answering your previous question before cross questioning. That's called etiquette. Once you understand that you can tell me what to do and not.
@@Remielsekai fetch a dictionary and look up interruption.
Ranveer needs to learn a lot from Joe Rogan.
@@Odeepsea1356 I agree! Sometimes he asks some stupid questions. Also asks the hosts to explain the fundemantals which most of the viewers already have an idea about.
Auntie ji ka dimag garam ho rai....or thori der rukhi naa toh jhagra ho jaaiga😅
Alexander did not invaded. He got his ass kicked, and ran away.
LOL thats clearly a lie
@@wyattwanders whitey how does it feel to know your ancestors were browns from Asia?
He didn't ran away in one day but his rule was crushed in Afghanistan in phases, I mean he didn't died because of an Indian sword but by Indian mosquitoes...Maybe...
@@theaborigine1119 maybe our mosquitoes were enough for alx and his so called great army🤣
He don't have the GUTS to attack the large Indian kingdom of that time that is " magadha ".......... because one of its (magadha's) small western neighbour ruled bya person named Porus has thareshed Alexander and his forces black and blue .............
Out of fear Alexander went back
Plz bring Rajeshri Nandy sir again.....🙏
Bring back Acharya prashant
@@robertK1889 bring both together 🤣
@@robertK1889 No we don't need him
Another merothi with their poor pathetic vocab & wrong spelling 💩 rAjEsHri does NOT exist FYI, Rajashri does but it's a feminine name. Is it too hard to understand or the ignorance is deliberate??! It's RA-JAR-SHI, quite common Bengali "masculine" name.
Bring only if someone has the ability to ask right questions to him not about ghost
No one says the "Aryans" are Europeans. They were Central Asian herders from the Amu Dharya valleys.
As a scholar of history, this lady's fresh approach gives me hope for academic discourses around the Indian history, which will be unburdened from any limited thinking towards our collective past.
So sad to see a history scholar is making a ridiculous comment like this.
@@siva1515 no doubt, one's hope can be another's despair. ... it's only human 😊
@@dreamsofadaffodil650 she is saying that aryan invasion is a myth cause there is no scientific evidence.
She is forced to say this because we are the decent of aryan's. The real vedic culture is not the culture of the country called india. If this truth comes out propaganda campaign will lose its authenticity
I can give u more logical reasonings . I'm just a curious one not a scholar.
The lady ur talking about is a scholar in Archaeology & Ancient History and as years of experience and is important part in Excavation at Rakhighari (largest Harappan site) so please see credentials before saying anything
2022 I was taught about Aryans... And 2023 my under class students are reading the same bull shit over years.
Please read DAVID REICH DNA report its scientifically proved 🤫
Aryan Migration did happen brother.. our culture is a mix of steppes from Central Asia and the later Harappan period
@exmuslimcool9331 Proof Blue eyes and green eyes people
@@bharathanand1762 🤡
U think RUclips videos are eligible to add portions in schools?. Aryan migration theory is most accepted theory. Disprove it in university papers with enough research. Not in RUclips video
I always put this theory of mine regarding similarities between Sanatana Dharma and Zoroastrianism-
In the Battle of 10 kings there were a clan named Parsua which is basically of people of Persia means Iran,
And in the battle of 10 Kings Bharata King was helped by Lord Indra which helped him to win the war and probably after that the poeple of Parsua stopped worshipping Indra and devas and may be they assumed that Asura or Ahuras are good and may be that's how Zoroastrianism's perspective about Daiva or Deva is always demonic, just because Indra didn't help them.
So you're agreeing the Aryan invasion happened?
@ARYAN MIZDHA you need medicine
You might be correct to some extend. It would be great to discuss this further, if you care to reply..
I think you have a point
The Iranians called Sindh as Hindu
Likely therefore called Asura as Ahura
Possibly a inability to use S but replace with H
Interestingly the Zoroastrian culture was an existing civilization with Darius as the Emperor
As Usual the invasion of Persia threw them to the sea and they migrated East to India and today’s Pakistan
Persia was known as Parama Kamboja in ancient times. Persia was the name given to it by Greeks named after the province of Pars from where the Achaemenid dynasty kings originated. Which means the so called Persians were actually related to Kambojas, Daradas and Madras.
Bhagwat Geeta was spoken around 5,450 years back .
This one fact is enough to destroy fake aryan Invasion theory.
sources- you still have dwarka in Gujrat and Ram setu in South which can still be seen .
Finished 😂😂
Bhagwad gita was written around 100CE
@@neollalobo wrong its around 5450 years old .
@@ThEEqualizer93or maybe 5451 years? Around that...maybe 3 months more lol
Yes a bridge built by monkeys and squirrels… it is nothing but a natural formation.. if only these politicians keep religion aside and implement sethu samudra plan India would have gained a lot economically
They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Ranveer Bro you showed WRONG picture of John Marshall. she was talking about Archaeologist John Marshall, you showed US Politician John Marshall
hey that's just a matter of your opinion😉
@@gaswhole How??
@@bhavikpatil2564 havent you heard facts are opinions
hahahah GOOGLE's mistake..
@@magesh7046
Google does not; we do.
😂😂😂 Aryan DNA R1 is matching in Iran and middle East is not even match in Indus valley civilization 😂
There's hardly any R1a in the Middle East. It's prevalent in Iran, Afghanistan, Tadjikistan and Europe. Also it's present in the Indian Subcontinent, as far east as Bangladesh and as far south as Sri Lanka.
Yes. The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
DNA of rakhigarhi and sinauli match with todays indian
Precisely
Yes but with south indian not north indian@@realpankajsahu
Even without the discovery of Harappa it is sheer nonsense to think that Indian civilization started with Alexander. What about the thousands of temples and palaces in the Indian subcontinent that show architecture but also art and designs unrelated to Greek or Roman.
No one believed or believes Indian history began with Alexander. That was her own absurd prejudiced emotional interjection.
@@Stephenvguerrawhat the hell with mittani? The mittani evidence conclusively proves out of India theory. The Indian researcher Talageri has shown how the Mittani traveled out after some of Rig-Veda is composed. They have words which did develop in India much later and do not fit in Aryan invasion timeline.
Aryans weren’t europeans or whites 😂😂😂 They were from central asia region
The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
@@christianfrommuslimlater inter mixing with greeks amd Scythian tribes who were really common in northern parts so they're genes got inter mixed
The first indo europeans (from Yamnaya) were white, but the aryans, their descendants, were brown, because the creators of Sanskrit were mixed with the more ancient indians
The Aryans were mixed Indo European white then when they migrated to central Asia they intermix to the iranic agriculturist. Thats the modern Aryans
@@studyali1067 The R1a that came to India were from Corded Ware Culture, from Poland/Germany, Baltic Countries.
Without the Aryan invasion theory, how do we explain the radical difference in the South Indian languages originating from Old Tamil and the North Indian languages originating from Sanskrit?
How do you explain the commonalities in pronunciation and the substratum influence in North Indian languages? Even the oldest stage of Sanskrit in the Rigveda has words of Dravidian origin.
@@SugiSeufz I have not read much into Aryan Invasion theory. I suppose the Aryans conquered the Dravidian races and subjugated them, but as the Dravidian races were more advanced culturally, the Aryan adopted the ideas and practices of the Dravidians in their own writings and lifestyle.
@@melroycorrea7720 If we look at History, irrespective of the geographical location, then any Invasion and subsequent Subjugation resulted in the complete loss of the native culture or the native culture had next to no influence on the invading culture. That was seen in the invasion of the Americas by the Europeans. In the case of India it must've been a peaceful intermingling, otherwise there wouldn't have been the adoption of Dravidian words into Sanskrit, no Synthesis of Aryan and Dravidian beliefs to result in what we now know as Hinduism and there wouldn't be any male mediated Aryan DNA as far south as South India and Sri Lanka and male mediated Dravidian DNA influence as far north as Afghanistan.
Right
Here's how: The presenters did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Aryan invasion theory is factual truth same as Mughals invaded india . 😂
I wish now children has to be taught right history , children must know our rich culture,they must know about our Rishi Muni, like sushrut who was perfect surgeon agastya, vashist Rishi there are so manyrishi
Ranveer make podcast on our saptrishis🙏❤️
This will not happen until and unless we have communist mindset people in our Universities.
Those great people you talking about came from Europe and Central Asia thousands of years ago. Who knows. Why do you think North Indians have more european features?? Because they came and mixed with native indian population. This is enough proof to support the theory.
@@Ranger-ly5qf no saar our ancestors is Rishi sunak he use to rule along time ago and had a great empire saar
BJP print's and change history
name of ram
@@babupasha3491 was ram even a real person or was he a fictional character ? I've heard many theories that if ramayan happened then it must have happened somewhere near the Afghanistan iran side , it must be some conflict between the Aryan tribes which might have gotten exaggerated over time or it might be a complete forged up fake story.
She needs RUclips channel Or an explainer video she has immense knowledge of History.
@twiceistheworstgirlgroup3223Cry more i love it.
Ghantaa
literally knows nothing
@@RustieFawn yup right
Her historical factual perspective and point making is to the mark. Good to hear her. Please keep her as recurring guest ❤
But she needs to be true to her word. She said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Please bring authors like Amish Tripathi and Sobers Rodrigues.
What about the DNA traces shared amongst light-skin indians and Yamnaya? I believe this archaeologist problem is the word "invasion". Call it what you want. Modern day indians have Western Europe DNA.
Europeans have Indian DNA
India has a glorious history which dates back to thousands of years...at that time Europeans were just barbarians 😊
Yes! They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
colour or facial feature doesnt depend on race but geography
I'd recommend you to listen to the talk delivered by Mr. Raj Vedam on the RUclips channel Sangam Talks titled Indian Civilization: The Untold Story.
It's a fascinating lecture where he speaks in length about the veracity of the Aryan Invasion Theory with lots of diverse evidence. He speaks about Yamnaya as well and also presents further evidence that disproves it.
I hope you will find it very illuminating.
Whether Aryan invasion theory is true or false is not a question. The question is using the theory according to convenience. The upper caste during the colonial period used this theory to show the close relations with Europeans. But now when it is discussed in a public sphere where everybody gets the knowledge about the original places of Aryans, a competition is started to disprove the theory.
It's false and the premise of your that's the upper caste was living it up during in the colonial period my guy Bharmins along with of every other caste and religions went to the Caribbean under indentured workers into colonial slavery so your whole special treatment speal is pretty garbage. Everyone suffered during the colonial period only the people who did not is the ones who made deals with the Bristish did not that's a fact.
Stop smoking so much!!!!! 🤦♀️
NO ONE in the upper caste used the theory to their advantage , your source is :- Trust me bro.
Upper caste were also slaves as lower and everybody else in colonial period
@@VSM101 They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Yes. Aryan invasion theory has no evidence. Aryan migration theory does have.
Its clear from comments section that many of us Indians want only the "Out of India theory" (OIT) and see AMT as a European conspiracy. Anyone who disagrees even with counter evidence is slandered in the most un-Hindu manner. Interestingly, when the same foreign historians unearthed and praised Indus Valley Civilization, deciphered Brahmi script, made Sanskrit/Buddhism/Yoga/Indian Temple architecture popular, we loved it!! No questions asked!!
It’s an interesting display of narcissistic "we are better than you / we are victims" bipolar attitude.
Science says mixed race happens when mammals of purer race (नस्ल या जाति) mingle. Same thing can be seen by pet lovers (eg. Interbreeding between different types (race if you will) of dogs). But for these OIT supporters, reverse is true. Aryans in Steppes region were created from Mixed race Indians (Aryans + natives) who travelled to Steppes. Go figure!!
Yes. The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
@@christianfrommuslim These are "woke" historians who will make unscientific and emotional claims without adequate evidence. They will not be able to publish their work in any international journal. Not even Africa.
aryan invation never happened, but aryan migration happened from matti near iraq
No from Central Asian countries
@@Indo-Aryan9644 Yes. The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Humans originated from India.
Meenakshi Jain would be a good guest to invite for historical content.
Babban, who cleared his history and geo papers by a pathbreaking 3rd suply in matric.
Intellectually Disagrees 🤡❤️
The lady did not do proper research on the Aryan migration/Invasion theory.
This is interesting podcast that came on my utube feed today, for 2 reasons.
1. I was discussing this with one guy in office after I overheard a discussion where same pedantic obnoxious stuff came up where that guy was talking of Dravidian & Tamil culture being great & the usual Dravidian Political language dressed with sickular idea that more bloody conversion & killings happened in ancient India & almost everything was of Buddhist or of Jain orgin, etc.
2.Other reason it is interesting is that this feed came up, indicating the umpteenth time to me that Google (RUclips/Android) is listening conversations.
don't use google. use Indian systems
@@gaswhole you probably didn't understand what you read in the 2nd point I mentioned. It didn't have anything to do with nationality. But it's okay, everyone cannot use their brain effectively to understand things when it conflicts with their biases they have carefully grown in their head.
@@EXPLORADVEN You didn't understand his point. He meant it purely as an alternative to google.
@@rohitghildiyal8643 I got that point, but was there any need to add "Indian" system in there ?? Which is the Indian system S/he is referring to?? Let me know if you are aware of.
But, while I mentioned this, even then, I can say that I can be wrong in here, to read the sarcastic intention of his/her comment. May be S/he was not being sarcastic or rather caustic with his/her response. But who knows.
@@EXPLORADVEN Only he/she knows, let him/her reply.
It is a fact that Aryans came into India from outside during the timeframe that was mentioned, Nowadays the propaganda tries to show nothing of that sort happened - which are lies and misinformation in the name of nationalism.
By this, I don't mean Aryans were superior - they were just different people who needed to come to India for a better life here. And in no way is a White superior to a Brown or a brown superior to a Black - that's bullshit.
But the truth remains that Aryans came from outside (specifically from Kazakh - Ukraine belt) and settled here and mingled with the local guys forming the crux of the major Indians today.
Yes. They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Thank you for calling out this video and establishing actual facts! 👍
Congratulations to you on your delusion 👏🏽
@@januprajapati7880 what is delusion? DNA evidence?
@@januprajapati7880 you are ignorant.
there was nothing like invasion or migration
Not an invasion yes, but definitely migration you know "nomads" from central asia💯
@@nimalanmathew no
@@nimalanmathew it was a female mediated migration that contributed minorly to India's genetics. It was completely unrelated to the Indo-Europeans.
@@nimalanmathew no . there was no migration from central Asia either
@@atacama1000 Genetic date has shown that a migration by the aryans is true. Honestly if your from north indian this is badass, it just sucks if your from south india because you were enslaved
Ok if they are lying then why were ram and lakshman or suryavanshi called ARYA PUTRA..how is sanskrit the originator of German and English languages..
Below are my two cents:
So-called Aryan invasion was not an "invasion", technically it was a periodic and gradual "migration", I repeat, migration. Ancestors of the Aryans came from present-day Ukraine and marched ourwards in all directions from thereon. One group came south-east to Turkey and marched thereupon to Persia and then India, hence the similarities between Old Persian and Sanskrit.
Another theory so what scientific evidences do you have for backing up your claim
@Bikki Barman
1. Genetic differences between people from the northern and southern extremities of India. Many of the individuals from India's northern extremity possess Europoid / Iranic physical features like long noses, high cheek bones, lighter skin tone, light eyes, etc, in contrast to those from the southern extremity.
2. Sanskrit has much more in common than languages like Lithuanian, Russian, Persian, Latin etc. than Dravidian languages like Tamil, Malayalam, etc. Even though separated by more than a thousand years, Sanskrit and Russian have a lot of similar sounding cognates, for example Fire is Agni in Sanskrit and Ogneom in Russian. Lithuanian is even more similar to Sanskrit and has thousands of closely related cognates, something which is astounding.
As to the above points, you'll find plenty of evidence on the internet. Once you've gone through all that, just analyze your findings.
@@karangurtu
1. There's no studies that prove that North Indians are vastly different from South Indians, both physically and genetically. There's only minor genetic differences like North Indians having slightly more elevated steppe and Iran_N ancestry.
2. the existence of different language families in India doesn't prove that Indo-Aryan was brought by people from the steppe.
There's zero archeological evidence of any steppe intrusion into South Asia.
The PGW culture in India which was identified to be Indo-Aryan predates the existence of Sintashta who were believed to be the Proto-Indo Iranians, clearly disproving the Aryan migration.
@Bad Karma Come on, refuting of Aryan influx and migration is just a political agenda who fear division of their vote bank. How can you state that genetic and language differences between various parts of India do not constitute an evidence?!!! That's exactly what an evidence looks like.
For something that happened more than 3000 years ago, with migration happening continuously over a gradual period of more than 1000 years, archaeological evidences are extremely hard to find. That doesn't refute the theory that there was an influx of outsiders who rode horses and used tools of iron, both of which were absent in the subcontinent before. Along with that came the Vedic religion, which absorbed traits of locally present Indian elements, and gradually evolved over a period of two thousand years in the Indo-Gangetic plains to give way to our modern-day Hinduism. I say Indo-Gangetic plains, because the Hinduism prevalent in remote regions of former Pakistan, Kashmir, Himachal, etc was much different and still retains significant elements of the earlier Vedic religion. Analyze these finds for once.
Existence of Sanskrit-derived Indo-Aryan languages is a big evidence which cannot be refuted. Vedic Sanskrit did not develop within the subcontinent, it came from outside it. Earlier there were just Dravidian languages being spoken within the subcontinent. Gradually they too were influenced by Sanskrit and absorbed a lot of loanwords from it. And after thousands of years of Aryan migration arose our modern day Indians, essentially a mixed race population having a plethora of genetic features with borrowed physical traits, along with their composite Hindu religion, which was heterogeneous and had both general and localized features.
@@karangurtu u are right i was also trying to say that, but how can I just alone make awareness about the topic among thousands that's why i quit commenting on this topic
Myths regarding Aryan Migration Theory (Read full):-
1. "NORTH INDIANS ARE FOREIGNERS AND SOUTH INDIANS ARE NATIVE":-
Actually Mainland Indians are descended from 3 groups:- Steppe Pastoralists ("Aryan"), Zagrosian Neolithic Farmers , and the first Group that arrived in India 'AASI'. Only difference is North Indians generally have higher proportions of Aryan genes than South Indians.
2. "THIS WESTERN CONSPIRACY WANTS TO IMPLY ARYANS BROUGHT SANSKRIT AND VEDA TO INDIA"
Sanskrit, in its Vedic form was developed in India. Vedas were also developed in India. They formed after Aryan already came to India
3. "ARYAN DESTROYED INDUS VALLEY CIVILIZATION"
Indus Valley civilization's collapse may have to do with Floods or drought (most probable). Aryans migrated to India towards IVC's end.
4. "HINDUISM IS OUTSIDE RELIGION" or "HINDUISM IS NATIVE RELIGION".
Aspect of Hinduism (which itself is a combination of different faiths, beliefs, tradition and to an extent philosophies) derive from many different practices. Folk elements of hinduism are derived from. Local folk religion. Many of the rigvedic deities are descended of gods in proto indo European gods such as Agni, Varuna. Some may have derived from IVC gods but we aren't sure. Some may have also been borrowed from BMAC.
5. "AMT IS WESTERN PROPOGANDA TO IMPLY EUROPEANS CAME TO INDIA TO CIVILIZE IT"
Saying Aryans are central asian or European is pathetic. Modern European themselves are descended from 3 groups:- Steppe Pastoralists, Early European Farmers (also called Anatolian Neolithic Farmers) and Western Hunter Gatherers. Indo Europeans migrated to two direct:- West to Europe and (East to central Asia and eventually South to Iran and indian subcontinent)
So I have 2 more things to say
1. To South Indians:- Do not have the notation that you are native and North Indians (sp. Brahmins) are invaders. Simple genetic ancestry reveals that most Indians have not AASI or Aryan but Zagrosian Neolithic Farmer (who are from iran) component in plurality. Even you have Aryan genes to an extent. And do not believe in racial theories of Caucasoid or mongoloid etc
2. To North Indians:- You are not invaders. Migration is common throughout human history as there was no borders back then. Significant ancestors were from steppes is nothing to feel bad for. For everyone eventually migrated out of sub Saharan Africa.
Please also Bring Nilesh Oak / J Sai Deepak / Aditya Satsangi on this podcast.
Sorry they are talking about Archeology and Anthropology.... Are those guys in the list any of those? 🤔
The way she says " Nothing, we were all barbaric "😍
I invite you to come and have a discussion with our Dravidian archaeological and history professors of Tamil speaking good world
💯True i too feel that.....this kind of people should can for discussion with our Dravidian archaeologists
They say to take emotion out of the consideration of Aryan involvement. OK, let's look at science:
Now there are many, many genetic studies which scientifically prove that the Yamnaya people of the Russian steppes, aka Aryans, migrated into and genetically mixed with all the native races in the Indo-European language map. This includes North Indians. Why is that hard to accept?
Because its not true? since if that was the case where did the original people live and how is our civilization way older? Makes no sense.
@@rickycool6083 The Yamnaya/Aryans came from the Russian steppes.
The oldest peoples in India are in the south. There is evidence that they migrated there from Africa.
@@christianfrommuslim If we agree that Aryans bought the culture to India...was there any evidence of the culture Aryans were practicing in yamnaya region? If Aryans bought the culture then there should be evidence of that culture being practiced in Yamnaya region by aryans...do we have that evidence?
@@varunvk1037 Yes
@christianfrommuslim ok now give the evidence that on any vedic scripture there is a mention of aryan homeland, give the evidence of any vedic prayer or hym who can identify the the places of Central Asia or wherever they were from. Because the aryan must have write any information about their original homeland on vedic scripture so give the authentic proof here.
You might wanna explore the dev culture of himachal where gods enter the body of certain pundits
It's in Uttarakhand as well, we call it Jagar. We can communicate with our ancestors and certain other deities and gods by invoking their spirits in a human body.
They are not god's but shayak Shaktis of God's. God's cannot come inside any human body
@@andhkasur What is a shayak shakti ?
@@rohitghildiyal8643 Har devi devtà ka gan hote hai Bhagwati ki Yogniya, Bhairavi hoti hai
It’s called mental illness
Yamnaya culture basically improved Indus Valley culture, greatly influencing genetics, language, customs, beliefs, customs.
We need more of this.
The readily apparent differences in physical appearance within the Indian population, unlike the more uniform features observed in populations from regions like China, Africa, and Europe, suggest a historical mixing of distinct groups. The general variation in skin color and physical traits between North and South Indians points to the integration of two different populations in the past. These observable distinctions lend credence to the concept of the Aryan Migration Theory (AMT), which, rather than suggesting an invasion, implies a gradual blending of cultures and peoples. This theory is more accurately termed the Aryan Migration Theory instead of the Aryan Invasion Theory, reflecting a more nuanced understanding of historical population movements.
Yes, according to physical appearance, there are many races within India. That is OK.
However, The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
@@christianfrommuslim Your point about Yamnaya DNA and its connection to Indo-European languages is indeed insightful, reflecting the significant role of steppe migrations in shaping the genetic and linguistic landscape of Eurasia. Nearly all critics of the AIT are unaware of the legendary Yamnaya culture.
Finally, a true Archeologists with a neutral approach, thank you.
There is not "neutral" approach. Indians have indo DNA and were ruled over by indo-europeans for thousands of years. Much like the mongols didn't with india.
@@RustieFawn Yes! They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Indus valley civilization is 8000 yrs old and they are way more developed cities. They use to live peacefully. No politics, no religion, no army, no Natural enemies. This civilization stays for 5000 yrs. They migrated from sindhu to Ganga river. Why they Vanished there are no evidence..From Harappa to mohenjodaro the distance is 690km. So they use to well connected too.
She is absolutely right. It makes sense.
No. There is now overwhelming scientific evidence of Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages. They should have mentioned this.
Request to all Hindus to wear a Raksha Dhaga to show unity and respect to our ancestors
South Indians must watch this who believe in Aryan & Dravidian theories saying Kannada & Tamil are the oldest languages & independent from Sanskrit. Then what about Dwarka city proof or Ram Setu going back Lakh years as per Yugas?
Dwaraka has nothing to do with krishna !
Ramasethu is not made for rama at all !
@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg 😂 cope harder
The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
@@AlbertEinstein-cs9do Cope harder means what ?
@@christianfrommuslim R1a1
There has been similarity in the R1A1 haplogroup among the high caste in North india and the eastern european country which suggests that in history these people were related. Yamnaya people had the same features in both of them. Yamnaya violently attacked the neolithic culture of Western europe. But what happened in the Indian subcontinent is still unknown
Maybe almost no one understand your this comment.
did you see how many of the samples & from where??? did you check which were termed as higher caste?? and do you think there was one migration INTO India?? There is archelogy, sociology, anthropology, history, epigraphy, philology etc BUT people want to CONFIRM based just on EPIGENETICS alone. Not only that politics/political party & ostracization just based on maximum 5 scientific journals. BS to say it kindly
The last Rakighar excavation debunked this narrative also.
@@bonitokumar4977 Actually it's proved it. How can people lived in Indus valley doesn't have Aryan DNA or whatever u call it. But today's North Indians have it?. Where did this DNA entered India. That is where Aryan migration theory comes to solve this missed piece.
@@gobimurugesan2411 out of India theory is father of your false indo -aryan theory...and in few years our history books will change that falsehood
Today the Truth is Revealing itself...
UK is crumbling...
India is becoming the world leader without any aggression...
Oye! Study history ok
The Aryan invasion theory was also used to drive a deep wedge between North and South India. South Indians were told you are the original Indians etc etc etc
They said to unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
@@christianfrommuslimyour name says it alll😂
You people should be grateful to Europeans for even discovering the Indus Valley civilization. You would have never even known it existed. Nor was it "Hindu" other than one reference to yoga from a seal. Nor would you know about Indus Valley trading forts, such as those in Central Asia, which were also discovered by Europeans.
I think some questions are pertinent:
1) Why do skeletons excavated from Rakhigarhi (an Indus Valley site) lack any steppe, anatolian or Iranian farmer genetic components which are otherwise found in abundance in modern day indians, particularly among north indians?
2) What can be the possible explanations for linguistic similarities between Dravidian languages of the South, and the northern dravidian languages and dialects?
South India was almost never invaded so you can't find their genes, and you will these elements in North because they assimilated with us.
Not just similarities betweensouth languages for example many words in Telugu have exact matching word in pure Hindi. Today's Hindi is islamised.
@@bharata_paksha North Indian and South DNA difference is of thousands of years, and Islamic invasion is came long after Aryan Migration
ANCIENT IRAN AFGHANISTAN TURKMENISTAN KHAZAKISTAN ETC AREAS WERE PART OF ANCIENT VEDIC SANATAN BHARAT AND THESE AREAS ARE MENTIONED IN MAHABHARATA.
@Ex muslim cool 😎 every race has its own set of distinguishable common genes. the existence of any particular race is impossible without those particular set of physical genetic traits.
@@bharata_paksha pretty sure telugu is more closer with sanskrit than it is with hindi.
Aryan invasion theory has since long been replaced now by the Aryan migration theory. This is very common knowledge now. I can understand her exasperation with his question on the Aryan invasion theory in the beginning of the video. This guy needs to be more aware.
It's unfortunate to see this obsession with a term 'invasion' when discussing whether or not a different group of humans entered India long after earlier groups had no doubt entered the country beforehand.
When we consider human migration patterns out of Africa as a new form of hominids called Homo Sapiens, it was not unusual for groups to 'invade', or if one wishes 'entered' an area already occupied. The sciences like Population Genetics and Molecular Biology confirm multiple genetic transformations occurring for different human groups as we continually migrated to and fro---sometimes moving en masse in waves of human migrations out of Africa or from other later settlements.
The bottom line, the essence of who we are as a species, is that we are ALL members of the same Human Family, This perspective is a reality that was long hidden from human eyes until the latest Messenger from God, Baha'u'llah, informed formally and clearly what orevious Messengers were not mandated by God to disclose to humanity. Until humanity reached its potential of expressing a degree of spiritual, cultural, and intellectual maturity so as to be able to grasp this long-hidden reality of our Oneness. The current debates of invasion-non invasion, ad nauseam, are the products of human thought that has yet to acquaint itself with the Message of Baha'u'llah and its connection with the findings of the Biological sciences which happened after Baha'u'llah stated His Vision of "The Oneness of Humanity". The axis around which the entire Revelation of Baha'u'llah revolves.
I am Aaron---An Afro-American Baha'i in New Hampshire.
when will this gentleman have a rounded discussion on the Dalits and baba saheb ambedkar , to get the real perspective of " culture" , that he always goes abt gassing rather than the biased bamanical Kaleidoscope he perceives his reality
Zorastrians are a dilution of Indian tradition.
You should do a round table podcast like what rajiv masand did!!.. Think about it.. People knowledge on history and with abhijeet chavda on the table🔥🔥🔥
Really good idea 👌
Yes a good round table podcast will be so much informative
Dr. Michael Bamshad's DNA report shows that the Aryan invention theory is quite plausible.
Its your religion who is forcing you to think so 😂
It's not just 1 report. AMT is accepted by most scholars across fields, genetics but also others like linguistics. This woman is a liar.
@@AriaIsara Mostly european scholars 🤡
@@siddharthsingh3639 so what? They are not right wing biased as most indians pseudo-scholar.
The British did this all over the world.
But we are yet to remove that mindset
Yes. There's no Aryan invasion. If we agree with the Aryan invasion then the question arises that Aryan also migrated to other places other than india. There's sanskrit, varna ashrama dharma, vedantha etc only in India. Ok. If Aryan were the owner of sanskrit, then that would be prevalent in all places they migrated.
If Aryan is from North then why are all the pancha bhutta stalas are in South india. Why aryan God parshuram is associated with Kerala. All Aryan Gods are black in color.
So Aryan invasion is a myth created by the British to divide our society to rule.
Like so many non-scientists is Ranveer looking for traces of his own identity while the scientists are interested in the broader picture. Egocentric vs enlightened
You should have watch other podcasts of him before telling it Egocentric.
@@Noyon-kd3in maybe... but do you recognize what I observe in this podcast ?
@@alfreddaniels3817 I think you're referring to the true self of an individual human being, who am I, why am I here, and things like these. In that case, I would suggest you watch his other podcasts. Those topics have also been discussed many times in different podcasts of his
Aryan migration happened but not invation..
Yes. The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Who ever mentioned where that Alexander started Indian civilization. From what little I know of Alexander's quest to conquer the world he was encouraged by his teacher to lands of mystics in the east which he had heard of perhaps by earlier greek philosophers (Scylax and Ctesias) who happened to go east wards and meet ancient Indians. People should be careful on what they say especially when they are trying to justify their point.
Aryan Invasion ❎
Aryan Migration ✅
Moshin Raza Khan was very biased while talking about Aryan Invasion Theory. I commented when he was in the podcast, and I comment now whe she is here. Not speculating, I don't know his motivations behind promoting and promulgating aryan invasion Theory in a podcast that so many watch despite there being no evidence to substantiate his words.
One more thing he said about the origins or various religions was that" religion evolved over time in order to incorporate more and more people into it. Newer the religion more inclusive it is, all to bring a universality ". However the newer religions are the most exclusive if one goes by the theological texts and practices worldover. I don't want to sound communal but it was apparent that he wanted to put Islam, one among the newest religions, into somewhat a good light or make an impression that it is the most inclusive and universal. Putting superlatives over ones beliefs is the worst practice an individual can do, especially when so many are listening.
Why to be afraid of being communal?
There is nothing bad or wrong in professing one’s loyalty and affinity to one’s community.
They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
If there was no aryan migration or invation then this show would have been in sanskrit and all the indians would have understood that intead of english
Good one! Indus script has been successfully deciphered in the paper 'Deciphering Indus script as a Cryptogram by Yajnadevam' and he explains the whole decipherment in a video presentation given to Sangam talks on RUclips. His decipherment shows the Indus seals and other artifacts are used to write a form of Sanskrit and the symbols used there are pre-cursor of Brahmi script ( from which today's Hindi, Tamil and other North Indian scripts are derived. Kannada and Telugu have their own modern script but before that they might've used Brahmi too )
Most importantly, there are so many Vedic references like Ravi, Varuna, Agni etc... in Indus seals and writings.
Nonsense every language evolved from brahmi
@@bharata_paksha what was the nonsense part?
@@chethan93
Script and language are different. You do know that right? Putting Hindi and Tamil one the same linguistic origin is entirely not correct.
@@stardust2045 did you even read my comment or just saw Hindi and Tamil used in a single sentence and started typing your response?!!
Today's Hindi and Tamil both have their scripts derived from same script i.e. Brahmi. That's what I've said in the original comment as well.
Also I now learnt that Kannada-Telugu script is also inspired by Brahmi. Brahmi to Southern Brahmi ( with 3-4 extra letters ) to Kadamba script to Today's Kannada Telugu script.
The most important point I was trying to make in the original comment was that, we had a wrong assumption so far that Brahmi itself is derived from Aramaic but by Yajnadevam's decipherment of Indus script, we now know with proof that Brahmi is derived from Sindhu Saraswathi script!!
@@chethan93 were has the Indus script bee decifered? No such thing has happened
Historians have already discarded the Aryan "invasion" theory. But a "migration" theory is an altogether different matter.
Yes, the Aryan Historian, not real Historian. They discarded it because they are afraid they too acknowledged as an invader, just like the barbaric Muslim from the North.
@@kevin1294 exactly.
Yes! The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
@@christianfrommuslim I never understood one thing. The ancient skeleton don't carry R1a haplogroup. But present day population carry this extensively. So does that debunk the arrival of this haplogroup at a later stage or confirms the arrival?
@@sidharthapatra4296 Later than Harappans.
timid, incompetent archeology dept. of india not explored:
1. temples of tajmahal, kutubminar,
2. ellora kailasa mandir
3. carbon dating of gyanwapi
4. dwaraka - ocenography evidence
5. mathura temple inside mosque
6. carvings , carbon dating of thousands of temples wrapped as superficial mosque
7 carvings of thousands of temples which praveen mohan explored
and apologetic tries to slow poision that sanatan civilization is not the greatest.
They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Dont trust all these western theories..go and read tirumala charitra..bharat is described in all scriptures also..If hindusim is based on aryans theory then how tirupati existed so long yrs ago and how kailash temple existed so long yrs ago, y 9jwaalaas are coming in jwalamukhi temple..this is karma bhoomi, veda bhoomi..jai bharat jai hind
Internet actually used right with podcasts like this 👌
South Indian culture rocks.
But there is linguistic relation between the ancient mother language of north india i.e sanskrit with the other ancient european languages. Because of which we term this language class as indo-european languages. So it could be a defined proof of the aryan migration theory. And the localisation of the dravidian languages to south india could also show some kind of pushing from north during earlier times.
Yes. The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Linguistics are indeed the reason the invasion/migration theory was first proposed, by William Jones in the 18th century.
There is also a small local dravidian language in Pakistan which suggests Dravidian was spoken all across the subcontinent before Sanskrit took over the north. In western Europe the local Basque language (northern Spain/southern France) also survived from neolithic times while Indo European languages spread everywhere else.
Aryans were just one Indo European tribe from the steppe, other tribes also migrated all over Europe, which was then peopled with indigenous Europeans (the ones who put up standing stones like Stonehenge). It's something people who reject the migration don't even know. IE tribes were from around the Black Sea. Not Europe per se. They migrated to Europe the same way they migrated to India.
Also, recent DNA studies show all modern Indians have some steppe ancestry, while IVC people didn't have it. Suggesting steppe migrants came in after the times of IVC.
Those who propagating aryan invasion theory, first they should clarify who are aryan and whom they invades???..
Sumerians called the people of Indus Valley civilisation as Meluhha. The Indo-Aryans migrants called them Mleccha non-Vedic "barbarians" in Vedic Sanskrit.
She indirectly mentioned herself as archeologist but she can't talk about latest keeledi, ramgad excavation, dna concept.... Nonsense
It's strange how an archaeologist wouldn't speak about DNA evidence.
Most of this anti-AIT proponents cite their evidence from religious texts,scriptures, mythological stories rather than from scientifically validated genetic data and then go on to explain why Aryan migration theory is false.
@@abandoned-user genetics itself disproves the Aryan migration.
@@atacama1000 wrong...dna differences exist between north and south indians
@@JT-zl8yp very minor differences exist.
@@atacama1000 the difference shows that upper caste north indians have high steppe ancestry which came from central asia
They are even claiming ancient Egypt was White.
Very logical and honest presentation !
It's like being "woke" for Indians.
This channel has become source of misinformation. Kisi ko bhi bula ke expert bol deta hai ye nalla.
Wow, this naive Archaeologist doesn't know "Kot Diji" which led to the conclusion of Aryan Invasion
does she look like an authoritative archaeologist???....she seems to be his girlfriend....
The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Dravidians getting burnt 🔥
I don't know who look like real dravidians are. The Andaman people now or the present people who say they are Dravidian .
@@Naveenbr-kp8gc1yi3d They looked like the mix of Chinese restaurant owner and a panipuri wala
North india, central Asia, west Asia long inhabited by indo-iranian people .
Later turks invaded central Asia replacing indo-iranian people there.
Thus creating huge barrier between russia and India.
Thus creating illusion that Aryans might have come to india from Russia.
But this is wrong.
Aryans are indigenous to India.
Yes. Aryan Invasion theory has no base, but a lot of evidence supports the theory of gradual Aryan migration from Central Asia into the Indian Subcontinent.
THANK YOU ❤
Yes! They need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
Newsflash: earth isn't flat 😂
Still debating over invasion theory
The Aryan migration has lately finally been proven by genetic results without a doubt.
Exactly! The presenters need to be true to their word. They said unemotionally look at facts. But they did not mention the overwhelming evidence of the Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages.
@@christianfrommuslimI don't understand the issue anyway. Such large-scale migrations happened everywhere in the world from every direction.
@@LamiNalchor Yes!
Next theory- Aryan "chai peene aaye the" theory
Please bring J Sai Deepak sir....
Bhai ye ab ranbir singh jaiso ko layega j sai deepak ko nhi
Who’s that ?
@@blueshoes5145 chup be what u want
It is difficult to prove a prehistoric invasion archeologically. But you can infer it indirectly if you read early chapters of rig vedas that suggest the animosity of vedic aryans over the local harrappans based on their appearance, worshipping traditions , and destroying their cities, etc and also from skeletal excavations. It is not a full-scale war, but you can't ignore battle scale fights. By nature, humans are also territorial. If suddenly 50 some gujaratis buy local lands and build houses in thakur village in UP, i am sure there will be bulldozers lined up to destroy them in spite of all being Indians. Same happen when bihari snatch jobs in maharashtra , Tamilnadu, etc. 😅
She is too beautiful to be an archeologist 😀
Behave lol
What a stupid comment! 🤦♀️
Simp
Beautiful people can’t be archeologists??
Thanrki khoon 🤣🤣
Aryan invasion disproved ah ha ha - good joke. The so called Brahmins were Aryans. This Brahmins were outsiders. Indus valley civilization is not an Vedic civilization. These Aryan Brahmins kept on fighting on taking the credit of indus valley civilization to themselves.
The Indus valley civilization god's were not Indira rudra as per archeological evidence As claimed by Aryans. These are zorasta god's. Taken by Aryans from them.
The Indus valley civilization kodumamal civilization keeladi civilization ( south india) scripts are very well linked.
But DNA is real...
So blaming colonialists makes no difference.
Yes. There is now overwhelming scientific evidence of Yamnaya (Aryan) DNA shared by all peoples of Indo-European languages. They should have mentioned this.
@ianfrommuslim
Then percentage of Aryan DNA in India becomes higher as you go from the south to the north. And goes higher still as you go up the castes, with brahmins having the most Aryan DNA.
The reality is, caste were clearly formed around ethnicity and sub-ethnicity. There is a reason why the minority of Indians who live in the north, bordering the Middle East look more like Persians than other Indians.
FYI - The word "Iran" also comes from the word "Aryan"
@@DocRealTalk That is my understanding.
DNA 🧬 evidence is laughing
Yes. They were wrong to exclude it. It makes them look bad.
If we and the central asians have similar DNA then it is also possible that civilisation first started in India then they migrated to Central asia
@@Rudraksh-mo4vk because Dravidians started civilization first along the banks of river indus
@@Cricfever99 Is there any proof of this?
Johny Lever and Hrithik Roshan don't come from same ancestry..lol. This is logical.
Dna testing would say otherwise
@@abcdgef8554 lol , it's doesn't
@@abcdgef8554 DNA testing will concede to what I just stated above in the comment. COPE.
I would highly recommend to decipher Rigveda to understand the history as it talks about Saraswati river as existed about 20000 BCE back, which has been proved by the archiological survey of Saraswati. There is a program by Nilesh Oak, which can be found on RUclips.
This piece needs get viral
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Few years back somebody had filed an RTI asking proof of the Aryan Invasion/Migration theory . The answer was "Sorry the information is not available" . Likewise many such RTIs have been sent to ask the proof of the so called benevolence of Mughals. And the answer was the same. This shows how badly Leftists and self proclaimed historians like To mila Thapar, Irfan Habib and others have manipulated their thoughts into our minds.
Self proclaimed Historians claim to justify AIT/AIM -- Aryans brought horses to India during 2500BCE.
Scientific Proof - Inscriptions of Horses and Chariots have been found in Bhimbetaka caves and rocks which are as old as 4500 BCE .
Fake Historians Claim - Vedas were written in between 800-1000BCE .
Scientific Claim- In Vedas , Saraswati river which vanished completely by 3000 BCE has been mentioned prominently . Now, when Vedas mention a river prominently it shows that , at that time when Vedas were written , Saraswati river was flowing in its full swing when there was no any possibility of river getting vanished . This ultimately supports the fact that Vedas were written THOUSANDS years ago from the fake timeline told by these fake historians.
Fake Historians claim that Sanskrit is a foreign language that originated from Steppes and Caspian sea. 😅😅
Our take - Why on Earth would these so called outsiders would migration such a fertile soil like Steppe grassland and Caspian Sea kinda one of the largest fresh water lakes ??
The Rg veda also mentions the Aryan invasion theory. That is where it comes from. The Aryas vs the Dasyus.
the narrative that aryan migration brought caste system is very weak especially the way its told by tony joseph, the mentioned timeline dint have caste but 1000 years later they had.The reason because there were "liberal" aryan who were against caste system. Then after 1000 years they decided it seems "okay lets have the caste system " 🤣🤣