Pavol Demitra. At the 1993 entry draft he was rated as a 2nd round pick yet dropped all the way to the 9th round. According to rumours, all the scouts forgot about him. He was eventually taken in the 9th round when the Senators realized he was still available.
I am skeptical that teams simply forgot about him. Teams make lists, they don’t go off their memory. There must have been a reason for the drop, even if we aren’t privy to it.
“Nikita Kucherov fell in the draft” Don’t forget that drafting players out of the KHL is tricky, as most scouts don’t have the capabilities to and are inaccurate
Definitely. I will say that the u18s and and international tournaments in general are a huge indicator for NHL scouts. As they get to see them playing against other top prospects in the world, and a great tournament has proven to make a prospects stock shoot through the roof. And Kuch has 21 points in 7 games haha
It’s not because they are hard to scout in Russia. The problem is that Russia remains a holdout in terms of signing on to the NHL player transfer agreement. This makes it difficult to come to terms with Russian club teams about bringing over the prospect, and of course with the KHL also being a top tier league, there is plenty of incentive for Russian players to just stay at home.
For my team Kuznetsov was like 25th overall. That’s still in the first round, but considering he averages about a point per game, that’s really good value for him
@@nollieflipcrook The more people talk about Kuch the more it boggles my mind that the kid fell so low. Him and Pasta are incredible talents that every team in the NHL wish they hadn't fucked up on.
For my team I consider Jesper Bratt as a high steal! He was taken in the 6th round and all of the redraft videos have him going in the first round now!
Nick Ebert found out the hard way that the NHL’s old boys don’t forget. If they want to embarrass you with the last pick, they will; if they don’t want you to have a job, you won’t. Like you said, he had a solid minor league career. Prolly good enough to spend a few seasons on the bottom pair in the NHL. His attitude did him in.
Esposito dropped because between his draft combine interviews and scouting, they found he was a guy who didn’t like the spotlight and was totally void of leadership. Espo was supposed to be a Crosby-level talent but really withered in the leadership/intangibles department when compared to Crosby, who in 2006, was still fresh on the minds of scouts.
Eeli Tolvanen, Klim Kostin and Maxime Comtois were all projected top 5 picks the year before the 2017 draft and dropped to the end of the first and second round during the draft.
Great Video! Would love to see some goalie Steals like Henk or Hellebuyck an maybe the comparison of a first round goalie or the first goalie which was picked in the same year the steal was drafted
In the 2012 draft, Vasilevsky was drafted 19th overall, Malcolm Subban drafted 24th overall, Korpisalo 62nd, Matt Murray 83, Freddie Andersen 87th, Hellebuyck 130th, Linus Ullmark 163rd, and I think that's all the goalies from that draft class that have seen NHL action. (source www.draftsite.com/nhl/position/g/33/2012/) Goalies are all over and I think they're the hardest position to scout.
My wing s picked 2 players that fell in 2018 in Filip Zadina and Joel Veleno. It’s still too early to decide what they’ll be, though Zadina has looked promising in his limited time in the NHL.
Cool list! Although Lee is definitely not an "elite NHL goalscorer". He's great at scoring goals don't get me wrong, but he averages under 30 goals a season. Elite would be guys like Ovi and Matthews.
I have a video idea. Could you explain to people how the nhl draft works? for exemple, explain that a team can take a less talented player because he's either a Center, a D men, or has size. You could also talk about the ''russian factor'' that causes the russian player to fall in the draft.
How about a video of players drafted ahead of where they were projected? An example would be Detroit drafting Moritz Seider 6th overall in 2019 when most scouts had him projected 20th or later.
With Espo it was quite easy to see why he fell. Once he was on his own, they realised he was not the go to guy and even by Q standards he was bad in his own zone and was viewed as a cherry picker
2007, forget about Esposito. Alexei Cherepanov had numbers similar to what Ovechkin had achieved a few years earlier in the top league, but during the draft a lot of teams seemed to be questioning whether he would ever leave Russia. He was projected top 5 but dropped to 17. Then he died 1 ½ year later as he was finally starting to look like a dominant KHL player. Who knows what he would have become. As for Pastrnak, he was just overshadowed by Nylander, and then you also had Vrana who was considered his equal. But I think many at the time didn't get how good Nylander was at the time, and ended up underrating all of them. But he was also kind of overachieving because of great mentoring by his father. Both the Nylander's had exceptional fitness and skating at their draft year. This resulted in Alexander who played in NA being a bit overrated, while William performed a bit better than you'd expect from someone of his talent level. But simultaneously the NHL failed to grasp how dominant he was. So in the end, he ended up being drafted at a reasonable position. But I've been following the draft fairly closely for around 5 years now and I think euro players are consistently undervalued at the draft. Sebastian Aho is a good example.
Pastrank was also extremely young when he was drafted. I remember them saying (when he made his bruins debut) that he was the youngest player in either the NHL or AHL. he was on a 100 point pace last season but fell leaving a sponsors dinner and tore ligaments in his hand / thumb. that's why he "struggled" in the playoffs. but anyone who doesn't have Pasta as a top 5 overall winger in the league is not paying attention. I remember at the time bruins writers saying he was as good if not better than seguin was (during the rookie camps the Bs do in the summer). I always figured he was overlooked due to the European bias some teams have. they think North American players will take hits, play tough and grind while Europeans will focus only on skill and flop around if hit. I believe that was a true stereotype at a certain point but most kids these days are playing and traveling all over the world if they have elite talent. so guys like pasta get used to the NA style and rink sizes. just a theory though.
I remember seeing Esposito in an exhibition game at the local arena in 2005... Crosby's mind-bending junior career was still fresh in everybody's memory, and honestly, this then 16 year-old kid looked like he had similar potential. I'm not even kidding. I've rarely seen such a swift skater. The NHL scouts weren't wrong. If anything, Esposito left his own self down for some reason.
Being from Quebec city, I've seen him play for the Remparts and wasn't surprised he wasn't drafted higher. The guy could skate but I thought he lacked in creativity and drive. The player from that team whose performance did catch my eye was Adam Erne and so far he's had a better NHL career than Esposito. So My instincts were pretty much spot on.
Esposito didn't let himself down. He got injured. He tore his acl twice. Even with his draft fall, he might've still carved out a decent NHL career if not for the injuries.
1987 draft. Both Bryan Fogarty-9th and Joe Sakic-15th drafted by Nordiques. Fogarty was high end talent. He beat Bobby Orr's record for points by a defenceman in OHL. Unfortunatley he was already an extreme alcoholic at age 15.
As a Capitals fan, it will always be Peter Bondra. 7th round pick, 156th overall. Was the leading scorer for goals, points, hat tricks, power play goals, and power play points for the Caps until that Ovechkin guy happened. 500 goal scorer as well. Made a cup finals and didn't win unfortunately. Very consistent goal scorer. Very solid steal in my opinion!!!
For the Sharks, right now I think of Ryan Merkley. Because of his anger problems, he fell to 21, but a lot of scouts thought if he didn’t have those attitude concerns, he could have gone as high as top 5 in 2018, and considered him to be the most talented defenseman in the draft behind Dahlin. Last season with London, he put up really good numbers, and he didn’t really have any major “incidents” with his attitude. If he fills his offensive potential, he could turn into one of the leagues elite defensemen, and he’s going to be a huge steal for the Sharks at 21st overall. Still too early to tell, but I like what I’ve seen from him. He’s open that he goes to therapy to work on his anger, and is trying to get better that way. I think that’s a huge step that a lot of these younger guys with “attitude” concerns don’t take.
Joël Teasdale was ranked top-15 by Craig Button in the 2017 draft but went undrafted come the next Summer. He signed an entry-level deal with the Habs in 2019. For a multitude of reasons I'm still shook he got passed on for SEVEN whole rounds. It's a shame his knee exploded in the preseason bit by next season he will be a successful AHL player and I wouldn't be surprised if he got an NHL callup in his pro debut season as well
2015 Draft Travis Konecny was ranked as high as 11, citing his flashy goal-scoring and quickness, while Craig Button didn’t even have Konecny in his top 30 (ranked 33). Excluding Button’s assessment and averaging Konecny’s ranking among the rest of the seven scouts, he was the 14th-best prospect in the draft. Hextall traded back into the 1st round with the Leafs to take him 24th. Not a huge fall but he did fall nonetheless
Yep Konecny is a great example. I was very surprised he fell that far. He was ranked as a top skater in the draft, and had the tangibles to back it up. Not unhappy with Boeser of course, but I really wanted Van to jump on him
I remember two players from NHL11 that were allways really high in their drafts, (1st round) but not irl. Jonathan Iilahti and Sean Day. Not sure if they were ever actually top prospects irl, but atleast in NHL11 :)
Daniel sprong was a player supposed to go too 5 they even had a Canadian sports show follow him and 4 others in the draft year he made the penguins out of his first training camp but during his draft season he dropped to the second round look him up
Having a lot of trouble cracking the lineup. When he has made it he hasn't impressed. Often times looking out of place. Next season will be it for him - either he makes the team, or he gets dealt IMO
Charles Szasz Rasmus Sandin was always considered a late first round pick from 20-31. At some point people wondered if he would be a second round pick.
Probably the player I would choose for recent Red Wings drafts would be Anthony Mantha falling to 20th overall in 2013. His 260 career points in the Q were discounted as he was a man playing against boys (late year birthday?). Questions about work ethic, and playing against inferior opponents were the talk of the hockey forums back then. I Do not count Z or Dats in this as they flew way under the radar from the get go.
2011...my Leafs drafted tyler biggs 22nd overall....they actually traded UP with the ducks to get him !!! Giving up the 30th pick (Rickard Rackell) & 39th pick (John Gibson) 🤦🏾
John McFarland was expected to be a top-5 pick in 2010 after scoring nearly a point-per-game in his rookie junior season on an awful team. He never progressed past that point, and is now retired; playing only three NHL games.
2009 also had. Simon Despres. Fell to number 30 when he should have been top 10. Poor management lead to bad role assignment and injury trouble, otherwise he would be a top 30 defenseman. Also try to find a synonym for "however" - and a new way to say "next" - both are your crutch!
LA picked up Gabe Vilardi, projected top five to top 10, in the teens. He’s now in the NHL and hopefully sticking. LA has a habit of picking up fallers with their non-top five picks. Arthur Kaliyev is another.
Great idea!! Philip Broberg was projected 3d overall in 2017-2018. 8th overall isn't a big fall but still, I do think Broberg is the defenseman with the highest ceiling behind Byram.
Not in the NHL yet but Dustin Wolf, goalie picked by the Flames last year looks like a steal so far. Gaudreau could've been on here too. Crazy that we got him in the 4th round. Only concern was his size.
Colton parayko was definitely a steal for the blues but he only went in the third round because he played in a really small league that is often overlooked. The blues did get a steal though when lost in was supposed to be in the top five of his draft but broke his arm and was out a lot of the season and dropped to the 31st pick in the draft.
Ya but POD told everyone he was gonna play out his contact and come over so unless they are in a contend now mode I don't see why teams couldn't wait 2 years....like Vancouver's first line of petey Brock and Pod would be sick for atleast 8-10 years
@@RobTalksHockey totally and it was like us getting away with hoglander and Quinn once of which was mid first rounder that slipped to 40 and Quinn is a for sure top 5 or even top 3 pick if like you've said in past videos Montreal and Arizona didn't go way off board. That also give of 3 years of an ELC for flexibility when it comes to the cap considering we are gonna be in trouble for at least 2-4 years both because of covid and because of bad contracts. I wish the Canucks could sign both quinn and Petey for 9x8 but unfortunately this isn't NHL20 :( lol
Esposito tore his ACL. Thats the main reason he fell so far. He tore it again later in his career as well as his MCL and I think its fair to chalk his lack of success up to injuries
If you want to look at the Red Wings draft history, we’re possibly the Kings of stealing. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Lidstrom, etc. Then there’s the Red Wings recent first round history....
Anders Lee being a QB would’ve been worse because he would’ve ended up kicking the jets asses probably. Glad to have him as a hockey player and the captain of my team!
Has your team ever drafted someone that "fell" in their draft. If so, did they turn into massive steals?
Caulfield fell to MTL. I'm guessing he's a steal
Liljegren to Toronto. I think he has potential to be a steal. Exciting to see how he plays next year
Mark Stone. dropped to the second round because of a bad injury and worries about his skating, got picked in the sixth round pretty amazing steal
Blackhawks drafting Alex debrincat because he was easily a first rounder but dropped to the second round because of his size. What a steal.
Are u indigenous rob?
Pavol Demitra. At the 1993 entry draft he was rated as a 2nd round pick yet dropped all the way to the 9th round. According to rumours, all the scouts forgot about him. He was eventually taken in the 9th round when the Senators realized he was still available.
RIP Pavol!
RIP
Great example!
Imagine being considered a really good talent and every team just forgot you existed bruh 😭😂😂
I am skeptical that teams simply forgot about him. Teams make lists, they don’t go off their memory. There must have been a reason for the drop, even if we aren’t privy to it.
I would say Datsyuk and Zetterberg got overlooked due to one being russian and one playing in Allsvenskan
Johannes Sulo yeah but they weren’t seen as potential high draft picks-people didn’t even know who Datsyuk was in his draft year
Timrå played in the SHL (or Elitserien as it was called then), therefor Zetterberg was not being overlooked for the reasons you give.
No man it’s like the NFL you just have to get into the draft Byfuglien was drafted and I think the seventh round as well
CanadianCanEat Byfuglien was an 8th rounder in 2003
Quinlan B Damn thought it was seven
“Nikita Kucherov fell in the draft”
Don’t forget that drafting players out of the KHL is tricky, as most scouts don’t have the capabilities to and are inaccurate
Definitely. I will say that the u18s and and international tournaments in general are a huge indicator for NHL scouts. As they get to see them playing against other top prospects in the world, and a great tournament has proven to make a prospects stock shoot through the roof. And Kuch has 21 points in 7 games haha
LeafsFanForever he was playing with the Rouyn-Noranda Huskies out of the Q.
Nathan Lemay that’s pretty cool man. I seen him live a few times in the Q. Never thought he’d be the player he is today.
It’s not because they are hard to scout in Russia. The problem is that Russia remains a holdout in terms of signing on to the NHL player transfer agreement. This makes it difficult to come to terms with Russian club teams about bringing over the prospect, and of course with the KHL also being a top tier league, there is plenty of incentive for Russian players to just stay at home.
Jeff Brailsford plus their NHL team has their draft rights until age 27
Well for my team I consider Brendan Gallagher a steal, he was drafted in the 5th round
For my team Kuznetsov was like 25th overall. That’s still in the first round, but considering he averages about a point per game, that’s really good value for him
Caufield could be one hell of a steel
@@nollieflipcrook The more people talk about Kuch the more it boggles my mind that the kid fell so low. Him and Pasta are incredible talents that every team in the NHL wish they hadn't fucked up on.
For my team I consider Jesper Bratt as a high steal! He was taken in the 6th round and all of the redraft videos have him going in the first round now!
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Nick Ebert found out the hard way that the NHL’s old boys don’t forget. If they want to embarrass you with the last pick, they will; if they don’t want you to have a job, you won’t. Like you said, he had a solid minor league career. Prolly good enough to spend a few seasons on the bottom pair in the NHL. His attitude did him in.
I did read somewhere that Jamie Benn was in a similar Situation as Anders Lee as he was also quite good at baseball
I love that Daniel Sedin was able to make TSN’s all time Canucks team twice, sad that Henrik didn’t make it.
Nice vid, Sean Day could’ve been on this list too.
Tek3333 he was part of my draft. Exceptional player when we were 15.
Yep and he will be! Multi part series
Who lol
Rob Talks Hockey sweet!
Nik Antropov exactly lol. He got exceptional status in the CHL, and after a couple years was taken in the 3rd round, and is now a career ECHL player
Angelo Espo still surprises me. He was great at the WJC. Decent size, speed and hockey smarts, I thought the Pens had steal
Esposito dropped because between his draft combine interviews and scouting, they found he was a guy who didn’t like the spotlight and was totally void of leadership. Espo was supposed to be a Crosby-level talent but really withered in the leadership/intangibles department when compared to Crosby, who in 2006, was still fresh on the minds of scouts.
Definitely. When players like Esposito or even Joe Veleno fail to meet all expectations, it creates a seed of doubt
As a Canucks fan, it’s not fun to hear the Pastrnak story. Him playing with Pettersson would be deadly!
I fell in my draft year, still can't believe I went undrafted
No worries I wasn't drafted either lol
Same! The system is so flawed.
Eeli Tolvanen, Klim Kostin and Maxime Comtois were all projected top 5 picks the year before the 2017 draft and dropped to the end of the first and second round during the draft.
As a Blackhawks fan: the name of Kyle Beach still hurts.
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Agree but I loved watching him with the Icehogs and was really hoping he played for Blackhawks but never got good enough for nhl
Great Video! Would love to see some goalie Steals like Henk or Hellebuyck an maybe the comparison of a first round goalie or the first goalie which was picked in the same year the steal was drafted
In the 2012 draft, Vasilevsky was drafted 19th overall, Malcolm Subban drafted 24th overall, Korpisalo 62nd, Matt Murray 83, Freddie Andersen 87th, Hellebuyck 130th, Linus Ullmark 163rd, and I think that's all the goalies from that draft class that have seen NHL action. (source www.draftsite.com/nhl/position/g/33/2012/)
Goalies are all over and I think they're the hardest position to scout.
kirril kabanov is one to talk about in my opinion was project to go in the top on first round but fell tp the islanders in the 3rd round
My wing s picked 2 players that fell in 2018 in Filip Zadina and Joel Veleno. It’s still too early to decide what they’ll be, though Zadina has looked promising in his limited time in the NHL.
2018 red wings took Veleno 30th and alot of mock drafts had him going around pick 8. Hes looking like an 8th overall talent so far. Big steal
Yep huge fall and steal
I WANTED VELENO TO NYR. watched the kid in juniors. has a big upside.
I wish MTL got him
Wow I didn’t know Anders Lee was such a good athlete!? That’s crazy!
Blake Clarke, ranked top 10 going into draft year, went undrafted 2 straight years.
Injuries messed him up big time, he had more goals and pts in rookie season than in his next 3 seasons combined
And is now "retired" :(
Congrats on 15k!Your the best hockey tuber there is !Keep up the good work!
Thanks dude!
Cool list! Although Lee is definitely not an "elite NHL goalscorer". He's great at scoring goals don't get me wrong, but he averages under 30 goals a season. Elite would be guys like Ovi and Matthews.
I have a video idea. Could you explain to people how the nhl draft works? for exemple, explain that a team can take a less talented player because he's either a Center, a D men, or has size. You could also talk about the ''russian factor'' that causes the russian player to fall in the draft.
How about a video of players drafted ahead of where they were projected? An example would be Detroit drafting Moritz Seider 6th overall in 2019 when most scouts had him projected 20th or later.
Yep that one's in the works!
With Espo it was quite easy to see why he fell. Once he was on his own, they realised he was not the go to guy and even by Q standards he was bad in his own zone and was viewed as a cherry picker
2007, forget about Esposito. Alexei Cherepanov had numbers similar to what Ovechkin had achieved a few years earlier in the top league, but during the draft a lot of teams seemed to be questioning whether he would ever leave Russia. He was projected top 5 but dropped to 17. Then he died 1 ½ year later as he was finally starting to look like a dominant KHL player. Who knows what he would have become.
As for Pastrnak, he was just overshadowed by Nylander, and then you also had Vrana who was considered his equal. But I think many at the time didn't get how good Nylander was at the time, and ended up underrating all of them. But he was also kind of overachieving because of great mentoring by his father. Both the Nylander's had exceptional fitness and skating at their draft year. This resulted in Alexander who played in NA being a bit overrated, while William performed a bit better than you'd expect from someone of his talent level. But simultaneously the NHL failed to grasp how dominant he was. So in the end, he ended up being drafted at a reasonable position.
But I've been following the draft fairly closely for around 5 years now and I think euro players are consistently undervalued at the draft. Sebastian Aho is a good example.
Cherepanov died because of a heart disease and was later told that he had used some stuff. To make him perform better, yk.
Pastrank was also extremely young when he was drafted. I remember them saying (when he made his bruins debut) that he was the youngest player in either the NHL or AHL. he was on a 100 point pace last season but fell leaving a sponsors dinner and tore ligaments in his hand / thumb. that's why he "struggled" in the playoffs. but anyone who doesn't have Pasta as a top 5 overall winger in the league is not paying attention. I remember at the time bruins writers saying he was as good if not better than seguin was (during the rookie camps the Bs do in the summer). I always figured he was overlooked due to the European bias some teams have. they think North American players will take hits, play tough and grind while Europeans will focus only on skill and flop around if hit. I believe that was a true stereotype at a certain point but most kids these days are playing and traveling all over the world if they have elite talent. so guys like pasta get used to the NA style and rink sizes. just a theory though.
I remember seeing Esposito in an exhibition game at the local arena in 2005... Crosby's mind-bending junior career was still fresh in everybody's memory, and honestly, this then 16 year-old kid looked like he had similar potential. I'm not even kidding. I've rarely seen such a swift skater. The NHL scouts weren't wrong. If anything, Esposito left his own self down for some reason.
Thanks for the insight! It’s a pretty crazy story. He even followed Crosby’s path by going to Shattucks.
Being from Quebec city, I've seen him play for the Remparts and wasn't surprised he wasn't drafted higher. The guy could skate but I thought he lacked in creativity and drive. The player from that team whose performance did catch my eye was Adam Erne and so far he's had a better NHL career than Esposito. So My instincts were pretty much spot on.
Esposito didn't let himself down. He got injured. He tore his acl twice. Even with his draft fall, he might've still carved out a decent NHL career if not for the injuries.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Oliver Kylington was slated to be a top 10 pick in 2015
1987 draft. Both Bryan Fogarty-9th and Joe Sakic-15th drafted by Nordiques. Fogarty was high end talent. He beat Bobby Orr's record for points by a defenceman in OHL. Unfortunatley he was already an extreme alcoholic at age 15.
Nick Ebert's nickname in junior was " bird brain ". My Dad works for the Spitfires so I can confirm this 100%.
One thing about Esposito is he had a pretty bad knee injury which he never recovered from
Yes that is right. That's what ended up making him retire. As he had about 7 knee surgeries in his final years
I think pasta had injury problems before the draft which made him drop, im sure the bruins are glad he did
As a Capitals fan, it will always be Peter Bondra. 7th round pick, 156th overall. Was the leading scorer for goals, points, hat tricks, power play goals, and power play points for the Caps until that Ovechkin guy happened. 500 goal scorer as well. Made a cup finals and didn't win unfortunately. Very consistent goal scorer. Very solid steal in my opinion!!!
I remember hearing about a player that was talked about for a number one pick that fell to 17 and the kid died suddenly during a game in the KHL...
watching at 10:30 pm congrats on 15K!!!!
Hey btw do you have any idea where Anders Lee was projected to be drafted in the NFL? Would be cool to know
He hadn’t entered college ball yet, so he wasn’t being ranked yet. But he had huge potential!
For the Sharks, right now I think of Ryan Merkley. Because of his anger problems, he fell to 21, but a lot of scouts thought if he didn’t have those attitude concerns, he could have gone as high as top 5 in 2018, and considered him to be the most talented defenseman in the draft behind Dahlin. Last season with London, he put up really good numbers, and he didn’t really have any major “incidents” with his attitude. If he fills his offensive potential, he could turn into one of the leagues elite defensemen, and he’s going to be a huge steal for the Sharks at 21st overall. Still too early to tell, but I like what I’ve seen from him. He’s open that he goes to therapy to work on his anger, and is trying to get better that way. I think that’s a huge step that a lot of these younger guys with “attitude” concerns don’t take.
What was narrative of Tyler Benson? I heard that he was a projected first rounder who slipped into the second round.
Injuries. Tons of talent but has trouble staying healthy and really hampered his development for a few years.
Joël Teasdale was ranked top-15 by Craig Button in the 2017 draft but went undrafted come the next Summer. He signed an entry-level deal with the Habs in 2019. For a multitude of reasons I'm still shook he got passed on for SEVEN whole rounds. It's a shame his knee exploded in the preseason bit by next season he will be a successful AHL player and I wouldn't be surprised if he got an NHL callup in his pro debut season as well
Oliver Kylington ( pronounced Shillington ) was projected to be a fairly high 1st round pick, Calgary drafted him in the 2nd Rd.
2015 Draft Travis Konecny was ranked as high as 11, citing his flashy goal-scoring and quickness, while Craig Button didn’t even have Konecny in his top 30 (ranked 33). Excluding Button’s assessment and averaging Konecny’s ranking among the rest of the seven scouts, he was the 14th-best prospect in the draft. Hextall traded back into the 1st round with the Leafs to take him 24th. Not a huge fall but he did fall nonetheless
Yep Konecny is a great example. I was very surprised he fell that far. He was ranked as a top skater in the draft, and had the tangibles to back it up. Not unhappy with Boeser of course, but I really wanted Van to jump on him
Love your vids, keep up the good work 👍🏻
Thanks dude!
God I wish I had Anders Lee’s problem 😂😂 Good for him tho. He picked the best sport!
Hahaha yep
He also was really good at baseball. He was a triple threat
I remember two players from NHL11 that were allways really high in their drafts, (1st round) but not irl. Jonathan Iilahti and Sean Day. Not sure if they were ever actually top prospects irl, but atleast in NHL11 :)
Great video. Thanks Rob
As a Devils fan...
6th Round, 162nd Pick - Jesper Bratt
3rd Round, 82nd Pick - Adam Henrique
3rd Round, 82nd Pick - Brian Gionta
2nd Round, 51st Pick - Patrik Elias
Anders Lee’s story is my favorite.
Hockey > Football
15k! LETS GO ROB
Daniel sprong was a player supposed to go too 5 they even had a Canadian sports show follow him and 4 others in the draft year he made the penguins out of his first training camp but during his draft season he dropped to the second round look him up
Colorado got a steal at 10th pick getting Mikko Rantanen....a top 10 NHL player right now.
Timothy Liljegren for the Leafs. Considered a #2-5 pick over the course of the year. Jury is still out on him though.
Having a lot of trouble cracking the lineup. When he has made it he hasn't impressed. Often times looking out of place. Next season will be it for him - either he makes the team, or he gets dealt IMO
Charles Szasz Rasmus Sandin was always considered a late first round pick from 20-31. At some point people wondered if he would be a second round pick.
Yep great example!
Joe Veleno was a top 5 pick, but fell to 30 to DET then went on an had an MVP caliber season
Yep he is a great example!
Peter Bondra was a steal for sure. Seventh round to the Caps
Hell's yeah!!!! My favorite player growing up!!!! Glad someone beat me to the punch!!!
The redwings had datsyuk and zetterberg that we’re huge steals
TCross268 It's not about steals though - it's about highly ranked players that fell in their draft.
Probably the player I would choose for recent Red Wings drafts would be Anthony Mantha falling to 20th overall in 2013. His 260 career points in the Q were discounted as he was a man playing against boys (late year birthday?). Questions about work ethic, and playing against inferior opponents were the talk of the hockey forums back then.
I Do not count Z or Dats in this as they flew way under the radar from the get go.
Great videos bro 👍
Can you do a series where you compare star players?
0:35 nice shot!
2011...my Leafs drafted tyler biggs 22nd overall....they actually traded UP with the ducks to get him !!! Giving up the 30th pick (Rickard Rackell) & 39th pick (John Gibson) 🤦🏾
Could you do a video on where you think each team in the nhl will be in the next couple years
8:35 Pasta is my dad
SAme.
John McFarland was expected to be a top-5 pick in 2010 after scoring nearly a point-per-game in his rookie junior season on an awful team. He never progressed past that point, and is now retired; playing only three NHL games.
2009 also had. Simon Despres. Fell to number 30 when he should have been top 10. Poor management lead to bad role assignment and injury trouble, otherwise he would be a top 30 defenseman.
Also try to find a synonym for "however" - and a new way to say "next" - both are your crutch!
LA picked up Gabe Vilardi, projected top five to top 10, in the teens. He’s now in the NHL and hopefully sticking. LA has a habit of picking up fallers with their non-top five picks. Arthur Kaliyev is another.
Liljegren, wasn't he supposed to be 1st overall his year? He dropped
And he hasn’t done anything sense
- itzWyatt - I agree, I’m a Leaf fan and even I know he’s not gonna do anything, bottom 4 max.
PageGallagher15 Would’ve been embarrassing if the devils picked him
Might turn into a second pair guy though
Jordan it’s been 4 drafts since then and he hasn’t done anything
Islanders -
Michael Dal Colle - bust
Josh Ho-Sang - bust, repeatedly shooting himself in the foot
Barzal 16th pick, could have been in top 5 easily
"Where are they now" At home waiting for the season to start back up... like the rest of us..
Great idea!! Philip Broberg was projected 3d overall in 2017-2018. 8th overall isn't a big fall but still, I do think Broberg is the defenseman with the highest ceiling behind Byram.
Oh yes
Id love to see u have a podcast
Not in the NHL yet but Dustin Wolf, goalie picked by the Flames last year looks like a steal so far.
Gaudreau could've been on here too. Crazy that we got him in the 4th round. Only concern was his size.
Yep In hindsight regardless of size, it is crazy that he fell from the first 2 rounds
Andrew Shaw. Even though he is a lifetime Grinder he could’ve been picked earlier than he was. He also had some good 15+ goal seasons
Him and Darren McCarty are the best grinders ever
RADULOV HAD 152 PTS IN 60 GAMES. TFF
Colton parayko was definitely a steal for the blues but he only went in the third round because he played in a really small league that is often overlooked. The blues did get a steal though when lost in was supposed to be in the top five of his draft but broke his arm and was out a lot of the season and dropped to the 31st pick in the draft.
Cam Fowler dropped from 3rd behind Taylor and Tyler, to go to Anaheim who had just lost Niedermayer at the 12th spot.
Absolute steal.
I like your videos. Keep them coming =)
Josi was a huge steal 8th overall in the second round
2nd round is still pretty early
breadrobbingyou But how does every team skip out on that good of a player in the first round
@@jamendailey7372 well.....cant be 8th overall if its second round lol. would be what, 40th overall, or 38th. i dont know what year josi was drafted
@@bzigazwee miss worded it lol
@@jamendailey7372 misworded, but definitely a steal.
Good vid bro keep up the good work
Thanks dude!
I fell in my whl draft and went undrafted. Was suppose to be a 7th round pick
Damn :/ I have some friends who went through the same thing
Ya but POD told everyone he was gonna play out his contact and come over so unless they are in a contend now mode I don't see why teams couldn't wait 2 years....like Vancouver's first line of petey Brock and Pod would be sick for atleast 8-10 years
Oh yes. Which is why Jim Benning is smart man. Picking him at #10 was the perfect risk level, because he is arguably a top 3 talent from that draft
@@RobTalksHockey totally and it was like us getting away with hoglander and Quinn once of which was mid first rounder that slipped to 40 and Quinn is a for sure top 5 or even top 3 pick if like you've said in past videos Montreal and Arizona didn't go way off board. That also give of 3 years of an ELC for flexibility when it comes to the cap considering we are gonna be in trouble for at least 2-4 years both because of covid and because of bad contracts. I wish the Canucks could sign both quinn and Petey for 9x8 but unfortunately this isn't NHL20 :( lol
Sean Courtier was suppose to go 1st overall, a year later ended uop going like 25th
coots ended up going 8th overall, you were close tho
Imagine trading Jeff Carter for Voracek and the 8th overall that was Coots.... BIG L for CBJ
lmao he was the 8th :D
Esposito tore his ACL. Thats the main reason he fell so far. He tore it again later in his career as well as his MCL and I think its fair to chalk his lack of success up to injuries
Cam Atkinson was a steal, he was picked in the 6th round and has had multiple 30+ goal seasons.
How about doing one where the scouts wanted a player, but the GM/head scout/whoever wanted someone else, and the team regretted it?
Oddity, Flames drafted Andrew Mangipane in the 6th Rd after back to back 100+ point seasons with the Barrie Colts.
Update: Draisaitl is the best player from this draft year.
nope.
Congrats you deserve it!!!
Thanks dude!
Im glad pasta dropped in rank, he has a great personality and a great player
leads league in goals
One of the biggest draft steal was Kubalík in the 7th round
The Kings traded him to Chicago.
If you want to look at the Red Wings draft history, we’re possibly the Kings of stealing. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Lidstrom, etc. Then there’s the Red Wings recent first round history....
Konstantinov, and Federov
Too
Thought Taro Tsujimoto would be the first player from Japan to make NHL but never played a single game
Esposito was a candidate for the Conservative Party last election. Quite the lane change.
Yep haha!
The first major junior pic I see has my home team bois the Spitfires!!
Guentzel in the 3rd round is huge for the Pens
Henrik Lundqvist!!!! Hell he wasn’t even drafted before his brother and was forgotten till 7th round
Anders Lee being a QB would’ve been worse because he would’ve ended up kicking the jets asses probably. Glad to have him as a hockey player and the captain of my team!
Räty, Lambert, and Wright are some recent ones
4:12 Imagine if lee played both in the nhl and nfl that would be a talented sports player
Mark Stone stone fell in his draft year because of injuries
Great example!