"It Presented Too Much Risk!" Explorer Reacts To Deaths Of Titan Sub Passengers
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by Josh Gates to react to the news that all five passengers onboard the Titan submersible have been pronounced dead after confirmation that the debris found earlier today was the result of a catastrophic implosion.
Josh firstly sends his best wishes to the families of the victims and also wants to point out how courageous every member onboard was to make such a risky journey into the depths of the ocean and make strides in underwater exploration. Josh however also adds that at some point a conversation must be had about the level of risk management that has taken place and whether CEO Stockton Rush could have done more to prevent a catastrophic incident such as this.
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And the 19 year olds aunt said he didn’t want to go, that he was terrified; but he went for his dad. Now that is tragic.
It was highly irresponsible for the father to bring his son along like that.
If this is true, then panic may have been a cause?
who has told you this?
@@FlowersForYourGrave I also saw this, it's an article from NBC news, Apparently his dad wanted to spend time with him for father's day so he wanted to please him.. :(
He went to please his father poor thing
Josh Gates is a guy who swims with crocodiles, cave dives and travels to the most dangerous places on earth. Yet, Titan scared him. That says a lot.
He is a liar. He has done 10 PAID interviews and changed his story every time. He originally said the sub was a coffin and he knew everyone would die and that's why he didn't go on this trip.
He and his crew also flew in an airplane when its roof tore off mid-flight…So yea. It says a lot he was not up for going down again
Lmao he's some goofy lazy phat ass dude that goes to "explore and discover" what other groups recently found being carried by them by the hand all the way then goes eat some of the local meals in a nice hotel and goes back home and his editors make all the work to do an entertaining show. He doesn't risk shit.
@@markwalden6682where did you hear this? Genuinely curious. I want to read about it
He has saidvthebsame thing on each and every interview. Said the same thing in his blog. Go away troll
It’s hard to acknowledge the captain’s spirt of innovation & exploring after finding out that he deliberately ignored safety concerns from the diving community and even threatened to sue if they don’t stop with raising concerns!
Foolishnesses should be called out especially when people’s lives are at risk !!
"Pride goeth before the fall". A lot of wealthy ppl have egos that supercede common sense.
Josh Gates is a class act. He focused on the positive aspects throughout the interview.
I don’t think it’s about people questioning their courage, it’s more about questioning why you’d ever go that deep in a vessel that’s not certified for anything.
They were warned but fired the guy that kept saying it's unsafe. That was stupid - not "courageous", as the guy in this video is saying.
Well I think they had done testing, it wasn't exactly like "oh hey lets build a sub and see how it goes" but it wasn't as tried and tested as some of the long standing methods.
@Jesusislord-hd7fe 🥱😴
@@ShazWag But you think it's safe, like all these times it was, and suddenly it goes wrong u know..
Excatly
Courage turns into foolishness and innovativeness turns into recklessness when you ignore the warnings of engineers and mock experienced designers. Risk turns into manslaughter when you take customers with you. I understand the warm words but this disaster would have been completely avoidable if ocean gate listened to the engineers and hired a team based on skill and experience.
He didn't want to use experience 50 year old white men. Well alrighty!
It is manslaughter.
So true!
@@markkulyas2418 what are you talking about
Exactly! Calling Stockton “brave” is ridiculous . He was arrogant, and he killed those people as far as I’m concerned.
I would definitely say that it was a huge risk for them to go down there in an unknown vessel. It’s really sad and tragic, but I just lost my mom to a sudden cardiac event, so when I’m hearing that people are knowingly putting their lives in unknown danger, it does anger me. Because it’s just general disrespect and disregard for human life. They should have tested more before doing it 100%
I'm so sorry for your loss....I understand the anger completely and agree
You're absolutely right. My sincere condolences to you as well for the loss of your mom. Your anger is truly justified.
Many people put themselves at risk. I won't but even that's not safe as your precious Mom showes us. Im so sorry about you losing her. I hope what I'm about to tell you helps.
I was born different and in that uniqueness I found out that Jesus IS REAL. THERE'S A SOME A WHOLE LIFE AFTER THIS ONE AND YOU WILL SEE YOUR MOM AGAIN. This is what I do. I talk to Jesus and ask him if he will tell my lost loved ones that I ❤ and miss them and anything else I want to say. There is no sorrow in Heaven so I always make it happy. I hope this helps. I PROMISE IM TELLING THE TRUTH. BE AT PEACE. SHES NOT GIVE FAR! ❤ FROM CANADA
When you do something super dangerous with a high risk of death and your doing it for a trivial reason or no reason at all. It's basically disrespectful to God who gave you a long life to live.
I really appreciated this gentle, kind man's,caring words for those who died, and their families.
That man who pulled out of this tour made the best decision in his life
It wasn't this tour he pulled out of it was a tour in 2017
@@olga159 an Idaho lawyer but he didn't back out because he was sussin he just had a client thing come up
@@AikonikBoyNow The Street is saying multimillionaire Chris Brown?
If I were to bail out on this trip would literally give me PTSD and years of counseling!
@SilverSurfer87 Best choice of his life. Unlike the clowns that took the trip down.
The real tragedy here is the 19 year old that only went because his dad wanted him to go, that sucks... Always listen to your instincts and make your own decisions
Yeah, but he was 19 and just wanted to have a nice day with his dad. Poor kid
i heard that thay wanted to spend time together for the Fathers day....this is probably one of the saddest things i ever heard...
Oh no, I didn't know that. Very sad.
I suspect in Pakistani culture (as in many) there is too much expectation to please your parents as an adult instead of being the autonomous person you are.
It was a quick painless death…..they wouldn’t have even seen or felt it coming. Knowing that gives me some comfort as opposed to dying with lack of oxygen and in complete darkness.
Josh Gates is just an incredible human being. Always has been. This is such a sincere and respectful response.
Agreed, he has the best response I've seen so far. Sensitive and well spoken.
@@LauraEllen999 see that wire going in his ear? that's the producer telling him what to say, and when to wrap it up, so what he really wants to say we will never know.
@@Dropsey818 put your tinfoil hat away weirdo
@@Dropsey818 No it's so he can hear Piers you clown.
Josh takes no risks himself and his shows show it
Josh is always a class act in sharing his perspective with respect to all different opinions, and meeting him as a fan he is so down to earth and a friend to all.
Hi rachel
Hi Pierce: The Titanic remains are a memorial for those who died. Separate from Titanic, Titan CEO said that he didn’t hire “50-year-old white guys” with military experience to captain his vessels because they weren’t “inspirational" and that “anybody can drive the sub” with a $30 video game controller. Obviously, the CEO is ignorant of facts and even history. Reflecting on WW II and recent events with submarines, he should have taken more care and diligence in creating a submersible by combining expertise with innovation. I find his remark insulting to all the servicemen who risked and gave their life serving on military submarines-these submariners are heroes. The Titan "explorers" are not heroes, they made a bad choice and risked their lives to look at a memorial in an unsafe contraption without training and sufficient knowledge about the risk. Their trip was not educational or respectful to the Titanic's final resting place and remains.
An engineer voiced his concerns because the CEO would only pay for a view portal certified up to 1200 meters. The CEO didn't want to pay for a viewport that was rated for the titanic depth of 4000 meters. He was fired and sued. This is all on carelessness, corner cutting, and being cheap.
and negligent!!!
Thats what most companies do. Saving money and shareholders trump everything, including safety
@@bargainplaceukand convenient. Blow yourself up into dust all you want. To take money from people to murder them I board your tin can is an entirely different conversation. I could never take an animal let alone someone’s child with me on something I know is dangerous. The man knew what’s he was doing and lacking, and DID NOT CARE AT ALL.
It seems doubtful that is true. It is true that engineer had concerns, but throughout that - and the court proceedings etc, the chief engineer, Tony Nissen remained with the project. Tony was ex-Navy for over 20 years. It seems unlikely that he would sign off on a weak porthole window.
When your final product looks like a soup-up propane tank... sane brains should prevail.
Dude is incredibly well spoken.
Josh grew up two houses from where I live. Very lovely family. Exciting to see and hear him here.
Cool! I love him on destination truth!
Being a “risk taker” is one thing… charging a 1/4 of a million dollars to put others at risk is another thing entirely, and wholly unacceptable.
Guy sounds like a shill tbh
@@aldrinmarquez7136 yep
Go cry to the CEO then.
he told them the risk and the 250.000 dollar is not even profit for the firm, they are still in debt. this is just great men who dont wanna be NPCs and see stuff
@@kinkkong28 Ceo is dead. The ceo was captain with them
Thank you Mr. Morgan for not interrupting, and letting your guest speak! That is rare today.
Did he? I didn't even bother to listen. What you mean is that it is so rare for Morgan not to speak instead of his guests. You genuinely wonder why he bothers inviting them.
Yes, kudos for letting the defender of idiocy speak!
It's rare for PIERS, anyway...
I agree
Rare for HIm
It is so sad for the teenager, he was so scared , he must of been so scared RIP ... my deepest sympathy to all the families , my heart is with you ❤ from canada
How lucky this man has been to listen to his inner voice, he knew it was not worth the risks. So sorry for the family involved. It's never worth losing even one life for a risk taking adventure 😢
Respect nature. This is not about exploring and being courageous. This is about being reckless and impatient,not listening to solid advice and taking shortcuts to safety measures which are very questionable.
Cause of death; ESG
I agree but I also wonder how much they paying regular civilians know that there was potentially a lot of errors and a lot of risk going into this because of the machine not because of anything else because how much would just a regular person know about a submersible?
@@rogerm3708 I wonder if the team of very young inexperienced engineers scared him off of going in this thing... diverse group tho.
@@xtina_m_marie7361 As soon as you see a tube steered by a game controller and a man telling you proudly that he ignored safety warnings because "you gotta be brave", a tube bolted from the outside.
No. Even if you paid me a million, I would have NEVER went into that thing.
I agree with you , but as long as they did not put others in danger only themself I do not care. What I have a problem with is people like that do stuff and then something happens and others have to risk their life to help and /or find that. THAT is what I hate. If someone wants to dive to the Titanic and stays there, his choice, someone climbs a mountain someone happens, his choice. But do not ask others to risk their life and waste a lot of money and time on you. I do not want to know how much this all now costs
There's a difference between "taking a risk" and just ignoring all of the obvious blatant risks staring you in the face, like the risks associated with this untested, unproven, uncertified carbon fiber vessel. Pure negligence.
Yep. Not certified. Foolish risk.
Yep you’re right.
And on top of that taking a 19 year old with you
As I understand it, the carbon fiber was supposed to be 7 inches thick but he changed it to 5 inches and he only wanted young people around him who were YES sayers. He didn't listen to the experts who warned about this in 2018. He fired two who thought there wasn't enough security. No aircraft or submarine would be approved. I think he killed several people and he exposed many and he was willing to take risks. How can such a person be allowed to continue? But now he is dead and no one is well-versed who has a little brain and understands risks. Check the titanium cone when it was put there. Not even great fit and 2 inch overhang? It was supposed to be 7 inches and became 5 inches and how did that go? Even if it was 7 inches, they would probably get stuck or have a technical fault so they would remain there for 4-5 days until they died and it would take weeks to get the bodies stuck in this home construction. Now there are people who take big stupid risks sitting on shelves . How much has this cost and killed a 19 year old as well.
@@Miksta98 that really saddens me. His sister has said he only went as a Father’s Day present for his dad.
When Piers shows his empathic side I absolutely love it. He’s brilliant
Its not about being courageous or brave... A lesson i learned from the lions king when i was 4. "Being brave doesnt mean you go looking for trouble"
I hate when people turn others into heroes without reason.
Well said
Yeah, they are calling them explorers now. Gawkers is more like it.
@@dw3403 thrill seekers with more money than brains
As a dive master, I’ve always told new divers that if any dive is beyond your comfort zone, walk away. It’s a recreation, not an endurance test.
As for the Titan submersible, 1) No hatch, 2) No depth certification, 3) No back up submersible. Even the Russian Mir submersibles were operated in tandem so there would be one vessel to support the other in the event of an emergency. They were also certified to a depth of 6000m.
At 400 miles out to sea, you’re essentially on your own.
Stop defending Ocean Gate as a company which prioritised safety.
If you have $250,000 to spend on a dive, it would have been worth paying more for a safer option.
If they had had an identical back up sub diving in tandem with the first one, if anything it could've cost double the lives while solving nothing. Because the design of the Titan was deeply flawed to begin with.
@@francesco245 In this case 50/50 possibility depending on the number of dives & condition of the vessel. If successful, it could have at least saved the costs of the search and the 4 days of agony the families had to suffer.
why would anyone get inside such a unsafe and untested sub?
I've been a fan of Josh Gates for years. This interview shows he is a genuine person and probably one of the most classy people ever.
He definitely shows it!
If I was a multi-millionaire and wanted to go see the Titanic wreck I would pay to build my own submarine that I was 100% certain was competently designed and constructed. If I was going in someone else's submarine I would hire engineers and experts to verify those requirements were satisfied. Being an explorer doesn't mean being stupid.
True. They were all rich and could have afforded building a safer submersible.
Nah bro, they were all "brave"
Take the sea lightly she will take your life./.
You can't know till you use it repeatedly where they flaws are.
Did they drown in their own tears ????
Man Josh Gates is a stand up dude, he avoided saying anything bad or negative about the people who passed away or the situation that led to their death. He gave them all praise and defended the spirit of exploration.
Exactly, unlike a lot of people in this comment section.
But he also acknowledged that questions should be raised about the methods he chose, albeit "at another time".
@@jdoe981let’s be honest. Stockton was a greedy, PoS that got them all killed, and the others were just complete, idiots…..
I have a list of my top 10 favorite public figures in the world. Really its in no particular order but Josh Gates is at the top of that list. He's one of my idols and literally the real life Indiana Jones. His dedication to the spirit of adventure and exploration is so inspiring. I got to meet him when he came to Joshua Tree and it was literally like talking to an old teacher or friend. I absolutely love this dude man. His work has changed my life.
I'm sure there will be lots of finger pointing in the future but he's right, now is not the time.
James Cameron is 100% correct. Stop making excuses for the hubris of the CEO. He's negligent and responsible for those deaths. I'm certain the tourists wouldn't have been on that death trap if they knew the truth.
Very true!
The CEO even lied about the degree to which NASA, Boeing, famous universities, etc. were involved with his doomed project. He wrongly used the names of these reputable institutions to try and gain the trust of his potential customers. He was a crook, let's not be shy about it.
I don’t enjoy hearing this guest saying how heroic they were. He was irresponsible and is borderline criminal
IMO the company itself took advantage of those wealthy individuals. They are responsible for this.
You may have your own interests that drive you to go further to enjoy it, so did those other people.
They trusted OceanGate to be who they claimed to be just like we trust a bus driver or airline pilot.
It was criminal, full stop.
The CEO lied about the degree to which NASA, Boeing, universities, etc. were involved with his doomed project. He was a crook, let's not be shy about it.
I feel so sad for the teenager ..it's heartbreaking and being put at that risk at such a young age.
I feel worse for the 18 yo stepping on a landmine in Vietnam being drafted. Privileged wealth brat doesn’t really resonate great sorrow that some future ceo got instant sleeper shark fooded.
@@crawdadlando4053 I feel sad for an idiot who cannot even spell or compose a basic sentence.
@@crawdadlando4053 "wealth brat" .heartless .
Every death is tragic no matter what circumstances and as said ,he went for his dad and was scared ..but pointless to someone who doesn't care.
@@LJ-ze6ro being put at risk? He doesn’t have a brain of his own and can take decisions for himself?
It's by far the saddest for his mom, who lost both her son & husband. And it was avoidable too but yea.
I don't think courage and fortitude when it trumps mature decision-making is something to be admired. Courage coupled with wisdom is much more to be admired.
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Exactly there’s a fine line between being brave and being foolish. In this case, it’s the latter the more you read into it.
Wars were designed to cull fools who like making heroic gestures.
@Jesusislord-hd7fetl;dr: “or else”.
well said... brave.. to be admired... ? I dont think so...stupidity and hubris yes.. and the 19 y o ? tragic
Risking his own life by being careless might be courageous, but Risking 4 others lives, including a 19 year old is selfish and shitty.
Josh, you have so much integrity, and I tip my hat to you for your not commenting about James Cameron's many comments about this. I am a huge fan of yours, and you are a class act! Your remarks completely noteworthy.
No matter how much vision or 'innovative spirit' the manager personally had, the fact is he also had a total responsibility to the people who paid him massive amounts to give them a safe trip in vessels he alone had constructed - and as is being revealed now, this vessel didn't even have a rescue beam on it or other way of even being tracked in case of trouble. I think a call to 'admire' that sort of management, is beyond the pale.
Goldenautumn totally agree. Risk and passion but lacking responsibility for the lives that were lost in that quest. Quarter of a million pound suicide mission .
I say it was a waste of money and waste of life
Big fan of Josh Gates in Expedition Unknown. So glad he went with his intuition. I’m an even bigger fan after this interview. He is a man of integrity & so cool of him to pay his respects for his fellow explorers ❤
The more we learn of this situation, the more we can see what a despicable, sickening, greedy society we've become. 5 people lost their lives in a horrific way, and we jumped on a profit bandwagon. There was no need for the families to be put through the torture of hoping their loved ones were still alive for so long. The media didn't need to make the tapping narrative giving more hope. But when there's a billionaire and potential of earning a lot of money, morals and simple human decency goes out the window
This guy is upset by social media calling out the stupidity of getting in this vessel --- after HE HIMSELF was uncomfortable getting into that vessel. It's not courage, it's stupidity!
That poor boy. 19 years old and his whole life obliterated in 0.5 seconds. NEVER give in to pressure folks. If something doesn't feel right, your survival instincts are telling you something crucial.
yeah i know that feeling, its your parent you trust them ect, its so tragic, i hope people will now learn from this!!!! i wonder
every time someone is telling me to go on a plane - we can't even drive cars properly, and you are going to trust some random guy to fly you on 10.000 ft - don't even trust the technology man, it is a leap of faith.
@@ragemanrasta that's silly. Statistically speaking, commercial aviation is safer than any other form of travel, from driving to even walking along the road.
@@coolsambo60 and you believe in statistics? If I have an accident in a car, boat, bike, walking, at least I have a chance of surviving, I have agency - look at the death rate per plane crash (I would say the percentage is pretty high, near 100%) - and then look at the statistics of other accidents - do you really think is silly?! Winning the lottery is a curse sometimes.
@@ragemanrasta You take your agency. I'll take my far higher chances of overall survival. Your analysis is completely ludicrous and silly.
He perfectly described why one would want to go and sounded inspiring and yet… he saw the flaws enough to not go himself and had the intelligence to say no I’m not going on this. That’s what everyone is expressing when they say how could you get in this thing
Josh Gates is the real deal. Good dude
Snooping around a gravesite.
Who does that in their right frame of mind?
The world NEEDS pioneer individuals, there will ALWAYS be risks and as we know fatalities. God bless them, their families and their courageous souls.
Thank you Josh for putting the emphasis where it belongs today.
Thank you Piers for chiming in and underling the best of what is needed today!!
You never let us down.
Well done.
111 years later, Titanic still signifies death.
Tragic and sad. May the Lord rest their souls.
Or it signifies ignorance & stupidity. This could have been avoided with the proper equipment he didn’t even give them a chance literally sent them to their deaths. After multiple failed trips in the past he hardly upgraded or changed anything and was just doing money grabs. Super shady to list them as crew members instead of passengers so you can skip safety inspections and still do the dive with actual passengers who aren’t crew members or know how to operate the machine as he had them listed and signed off as in the contract. Has absolutely nothing to do with the titanic like you want it to sorry
@@BigSmokeLVFax, this whole story is dumb, people shouldn't even care
@@BigSmokeLV Bolted together coffin. Despicable.
Yup. Another 5 deaths to add to the 1912 total.
Same stuff. Same result. Except far less victims, but a tragedy is not a single persons fate, it is a sign for something much wider, it is about society, their values, the disregard and the result shows in what happens to individuals, never mind the number! It will happen again, and again...until understood and solved. It happend with NASA, it happend with other lost vessels, with aircrafts BOEING MAX f.i., they knew before....
So much respect for this man's ability to uphold the passengers' dignity and respect the families in their grief
Facts ! He’s a real one
Yea especially cause Pierce is an uncouth wanka
Pish.
Doesn’t change a thing
@@TheRealParisss you're not qualified to judge realness....
Josh this a great interview 👏 Thank you for showing compassion and showing diligence in this season.. let the families morn and then we can ask the questions..
Iv always believed titanic is a grave yard and so sad to see others are now down there with the original people. I would not be brave enough to make that trip. Saying that, it is people like this that discover things that are of benefit for others. May they rest in peace and condolences to their family at this very sad time.
Beautiful, graceful, and classy guest. Bravo Piers and Josh for your humanity and remembrance of the victims memory. Prayers to all the families. Life is precious,
This is a reminder for the rest of us to appreciate our lives and preciously protect ourselves from our own curiosity and against blind trust in others to keep us safe
Life is but the media seem considerably more interested in the death of a billionaire than anyone else.
Yet they don’t bat an eye for the thousands of immigrants fleeing war to try and find a better life but when rich people die it’s all over the place? I’m fact Morgan is notorious for calling immigration to stop because he’s a filthy right wing scumbag
I just want to see 8f that jaw is breakable honestly.. he is eloquent but I find him brutish, ignorant and obnoxious. Mind you I'm an asshole. 👍
The guest did a fantastic job but never give any credit to Piers. He's a fascist snake who called for the unvaccinated to be refused hospital care and shut off from society.
As an Ironworker , we have our own dangers and risks . But one thing we always talk about , on and off the job >> “Shortcuts, cut life short” I live by that.
Piers should invite a Professor Robert Ballard who is an expert in this field. Oceanographer has conducted more than 150 underwater expeditions and made countless significant scientific discoveries during more than six decades of ocean exploration and guess what. He is still alive because he is safe , has a proper equipment and doesn’t take a shortcuts.
He is being so respectful not to call that sub a piece of junk.
I cannot, as a parent myself, even begin to comprehend how a father could put his own son in such a position of great danger.
he probably wanted his son to have a unique memory with him....
@@Greeny_isthegoatThere are lots of ways to do that that don’t involve such enormous risk to your son’s life.
I have a passion to fight 4 my country, but I would never let my son join the army
Guy was a billionaire. I can think of thousands better things to do to bond with your son and it doesn’t include going down 13000’ to look at a wreck through a small oval window. I swear man people do the dumbest things
@@BanjoPixelSnack Get off your high horse. If they hadn’t succumbed to the catastrophic failure people would be classing it as an amazing opportunity.
Too many keyboard warriors trying to take the moral high ground after the event had happened as if they could have predicted it.
It doesn’t worth to go down 12000 feet, no diver can go beyond 4000 feet, there’s no safety unless you decide to gamble in your life (live or die). It’s 100 percent risk
Josh Gates you are a gentleman. Your overview of the situation is admirable. Your words are assuring and kind.
Great interview Josh! You handled all the questions with a lot of tact and respect.
I understand the warm words but its not just about bravery, its about how ignoring safety measures can risk not just the passengers but the rescuers lives just to bring them back. The story of Titanic tragedy should have taught us the lessons to prioritize safety and heed warning signs, red flags, but ironically, as being Titanic enthusiasts and having more knowledge about the sinking of Titanic, they seemed to have ignored once again, warning signs and safety measures that resulted to catastrophic death of the passengers and the captain himself aboard that sub. Such a tragic event.
All about "Look at me"!!!
I think this opinion is the closest to how I feel. Absolutely horrible outcome. RIP
They put their 'trust' in the Titan designer, that about says it. These people were not equipped to even know about safety measures.
Much as I agree with all the words of sadness, I must also agree that, often as not, such tragic events, which need not have happened, remind me that those who disregard their own safety by engaging in adventurous but dangerous pursuits are less worthy of our sympathy than those they put at risk in their efforts at saving them.
Titanic was insurance fraud... Nice sentimental yarn though... Nice sentimental yarn.
Josh, you have such grace and equanimity. Bless you for your profound respect for the grieving family, friends and loved ones of the five adventurous souls who have been lost.
Very well said
🇨🇦 SOOO well put !
RIP to the five that passed 🙏
Spending a quarter million dollars is all about bragging rights. Give me a break, I don’t admire the guy! Put your own life at risk not others to fund your adventures. The passengers didn’t do their HOMEWORK.
Explain to me how people have deep personal connections with a boat that sank 50 years before they were even born. Going down there was stupid and is stupid.
This was not noble. It was an avoidable tragic outcome. I feel especially bad for that young man who lost his life.
I know this guy is friends with the people in the submersible and trying to defend them but let's see it as it is. It is a stupid move. If it was done for humankind's advancement then great but they went there to just flex at this point. I am not a heartless person but let's not paint them as heroes..it is a slap on the face of real heroes
@@stanbalo 👍
Absolutely correct.
It was pure indulgence, not exploration for anyone but themselves.
His being friends with the crew makes his opinions low currency.
Naming this submersible "Titan" was a recipe for disaster in itself.
5 people voluntarily lock themselves in an uncertified sub, then decide to go to depths military submarines wouldn’t dare to, it’s a sad loss but the ocean remains undefeated
may as well have gone down there in a 44 gallon drum with a garden hose for a snorkel for all the good it did
Yep
@Jesusislord-hd7feumm, ok. Thanks.
@Jesusislord-hd7feseriously...shut up
What about the people that went down there in the exact same sub prior ? I guess the ocean has been defeated.
What's admirable is a person risking his own life to save someone, not someone risking his life for mere entertainment. The usage of this word needs to be thrown out in this particular case.
The fact that it was calculated to a max depth of 4000m and it went that deep blows my mind. They should made it to tolerate at least 8000m of depth.
Cameron said it all . This happen when you put your life in wrong hands . Sub went down numerous times so tiredness of material under the enormous pressure was great each time .New material for this purpose , obviously was risk . They chose to ignore that fact , and that costs lives .
I agree. Sometimes we trust people with our lives. We have to be accountable to that. We live and learn. I've got a son in the grave. That tragedy taught me that I would never risk it with my boy. He can see it another way. Bringing his son along was selfish
I had 2 sons.but now I've got 1
There is a name for such egregious behavior....Criminal.
I highly question the use of carbon fibre. There’s a reason carbon fibre isn’t used on subs. It’s strong in certain planes, but brittle in others. Compression of the carbon fibre would likely have weakened it.
@@RogueCylon it shatters when compressed you can see it with hydraulic presses
My heart breaks for all the victims, but for the youngest of them all, Suleman , 19yrs young, was scared- terrified to go , but went to be with his Dad on Fathers Day, how heartbreaking, it is a testament to his love for his Dad.
Deepest condolences to his mother & sister on their unimaginable loss. Condolences to all the families of those lost in this tragedy.
250.000 for one ticket
Poor boy.
Even sadder the guy has phobia for water but still went becuz of his Dad
Hopefully we all learn from this.
@@Michael-Archonaeus "Hopefully "
Courageous ? It's called stupidity not courage.
Titanic site is a graveyard where approx. 1,500 souls lost their lives. Let them rest in peace. It's just wrong for anybody to disturb their rest ..... and to charge huge amounts of money for adventure tourists is looking for trouble within an already doomed site. Condolences to the families.
Deepest sympathies and condolences to the family, friends and loved ones of the Titan lost lives.
*Spare us the predictable, pointless and vapid comments.*
@@francesco245 Take your own advice.
I have none at all, my condolences exclusively go to victims of other peoples bad decisions not self inflicted
Nice pun there with the word deepest
I like how the media milked the whole submarine story for days acting like they didn't know right away that the damn thing imploded
Dad trusted Capitan, kid trusted dad...
Agent 47 strikes again
the 19 year old threatened to massacre people
Can't even begin to imagine....
But they all were mad,for not doing their homework well
capitan trusted boat
The fact that the father still allowed his son to go along with him after all thats have been done as a concept is crazy
But hai happy father good sons
So well said Josh, you echo all of our sentiments at this time!
I love Josh. He’s such a risk taker. If he didn’t do this, there’s a reason.
Course there is - he isn't stupid!
🇨🇦 always listen to your guts ,they see and hear better than your eyes and ears .
@@valsyaranamual6853he got in that thing for 3 hours. Not at those depths but still got on that thing.
Bit of a hypocrite though. Man backs off from Titan because he knew it was deathtrap, but is sickened by all the people on social media who express their opinions on how stupid it was to get into a deathtrap? Sure, lot of people are being insensitive in how they express it, but tough shit, words don't kill, imploding subs built by an egomaniac who thought he knew better than decades of safety regulations written in blood do.
@@blarghmcblarghson1903 He never said it was a deathtrap he said it wasn't for him.
I admire explorers and adventurers. However, always trust your gut when a single decision could be your last.
nah you should trust the experts who know what they're talking about, who all said this sub was a bad idea.
nah you should trust the experts who know what they're talking about, who all said this sub was a bad idea.
@Jesusislord-hd7feamen!!! ALL I can think about!!! 🥹. Where are the souls of these 5 men today? Life is so fragile!! God Almighty giveth life and takes it away !!
There was no exploration or scientifical value, pure tourism with a very passive adventure factor. And no control, as wished for.
This poor father and son should've never been on this death trap. I hope the victim's families sue this company out of existence.
*victims' families
Thank you, Piers, for such great coverage on this terrible, terrible tragedy. I’m glad you didn’t jump on the bandwagon with those who only criticized and condemned this voyage. Hindsight is always 20/20.
I’m so sorry they have died. To be honest I’m comforted hearing that it was a implosion because my hope is that they didn’t even know what happened. For me watching my fellow passengers suffering and gasping for breath , would have been horrific!!! I just hope they had no idea!
It was very quick and painless
@Jesusislord-hd7fe Nobody asked. Stop being a bible-spammer.
@Jesusislord-hd7fe You should repent for unsolicited proselytising.
I avoided the story when they were talking about banging sounds, couldn't bear the thought of them knowing their fate but trying desperately to survive. Hearing they likely died instantaneously in a implosion was a relief. It's obviously awful when someone dies but here in Ireland we would find comfort in a 'good death' rather than something painful and drawn out.
They wouldn't have been gasping for breath if the air ran out. The cabin would have filled with carbon dioxide and they would have fallen asleep and died peacefully. Although I agree the terror of waiting helplessly until that happened would be torturous. Thankfully they didn't have to go through that.
CONDOLENCES to all the families. But, please.......LEAVE THE TITANIC ALONE!!! LET THEM REST IN PEACE.
The main question should be why not provide any coverage for 100s of people who died sailing through a ship which sank this week?
I respect this man trying to put a positive spin on things. But there’s a big difference between being reckless and courageous.
I don't. Surely he must see through his own B.S..
The rich wash each others hands and protect each others backs, even if they were filthy dirty individuals... look at epstein. Billionares.... scumbags and they got they way by being scumbags.
Yep. I feel so bad for the son who did not want to go. A 19 year old lad with more sense that smart men.
My heart is with all the families but am especially hurt by the loss of a 19 year old with so much life ahead and potential. May they all rest in peace 🕊️🕊️🕊️
The guest who said he admired the CEO, is like saying he admired the captain of the original Titanic. For being a "risk taker".
The bravest was the 19 year old. Despite being terrified of going he did it anyway for his Dad's sake. And he had every reason to be terrified, his gut feeling was spot on. But he wanted to make his Dad happy for Father's Day, and chose to trust his Dad's judgment to make his Dad proud. He's the only one I really admire in all of this. The others were old enough to have known better, they were reckless in their actions to board that vessel. The red flags were everywhere.
sons trust their fathers to make correct decisions for them. By any measure - dad failed in this case.
Categorising these people like they were doing great things for humanity and so brave and courageous is an absolute joke. They were thrill seekers with too much money whose recklessness has led to the death of five people, one being a young boy with his whole life ahead of him.
@Jesusislord-hd7feTroll
agreed!
True
The guest is calling the "entrepreneur" who came up with this deadly scheme "a great visionary".
What????
This was a reckless scheme.
Using a vessel that has not gone through proper engineering tests to go down to 12,000 feet is suicidal.
It is not "visionary". The guy was not "an explorer". But yes, he indeed was a businessman.
In my state, a person under the age of 21 cannot sign a contract and be held to it. So I don't understand how a 19 year old was able to sign a liability waiver that mentioned the word "death" 3 time on the first page!.
For those who think Titan and Oceangate were/are about pushing boundries, exploration and discovery, wake up! This was only about 250k a head. SHAME on Oceangate! Deep, DEEP SHAME!
True. They’re trying to push this narrative of them being explorers. They were billionaires on a joyride.
The price of a house, seems pretty expensive to me.
Pft 250k is nothing. I get that is a lot of money to some people. But in the scheme of things 250grand isn't a lot if money.
The exploration was already done countless times decades ago. This was a VERY expensive suicide mission/thrill ride and completely unnecessary. Diving to those depths can never be routine. More people have been to outer space than down to those depths.
You're rediculous
Deepest condolences to family members and friends.... RIP
So we're calling it courage instead of stupidity, now?
This is a man that does incredible "risky" things. But backing away from being on that submersible shows how he had alarm bells going off.
It is experience, the inner self was aware of the danger, because he did incredible dangerous tasks.
From there, the alarm bells!!
Agree 100% He's the closest thing to a real life Indiana Jones, so if he won't do it then noone should ( in my opinion)
He actually did go down in it though, so he's still stupid in my opinion
@@amystewart311How far down did he go ? Did he say ?
@@Tgif1111 yeah he said he went deep enough to see the titanic!
The young lad didn't want to go ,he should have trusted his instincts and told his father to get lost.
who said that
Could've had a Ferrari instead 🤦🏻
@@user-jh8no1zb9epiers other video bro.
The father should have respected his sons decision.
The survivor's guilt may have been detrimental to his mental health for the rest of his life. We don't know. May they rest in peace.
this is a guy i'd go on an exploration with , and feel safe with .
Sincerest condolences and prayers for the family of the young man lost .
Josh Gates really has balls of steel. The guy has taken some massive risks over the years, really terrifying stuff. But he’s done them and survived, so the fact that he decided not to go down on the Titan speaks volumes.
The man once questioned the safety of a plane, but still flew in it only for the roof to literally rip off during the flight. He definitely recognized that this could have been a similar situation, except there’s no surviving when a sub comes apart 4,000 meters below sea level…
Balls of steel of what going down playing with nature playing with places that no man or woman be long I really don't feel sorry I feel sorry for that teenager stupid ass pops
Josh - "I think these people were incredibly brave."
Everyone else - " This was incredibly unsafe & risky."
Don't test mother nature...mother nature usually wins and the few who do survive are luckier than a lottery winner.
Get a grip.
Most “people” just hate on them because they’re billionaires and they’ve been trained to hate them.
The simple truth is
Rich people paid a lot of money for a risky exploration trip, and paid the price.
Its as simple as that.
And yes you’d have to pretty brave to go down there. That doesn’t equal smart. But they knew the risk.
@Jesusislord-hd7feyes!!!
Dude was definitely way off base here.
But then again it sounded like him and old Stockton Rush were pretty good chums. In which case he really shouldn't have been brought on to comment on as a field expert.
@Jesusislord-hd7fe Hey, Jesus. You're in the wrong room. The revival meeting is down the hall. Tell your friends.
All these risk takers stick together. I feel sorry for the poor people who paid their dollar and assumed they were safe.
I love Josh for bringing respect to these individuals today. Risk is different for everybody and these five individuals went in that submersible thinking they would come out. Others went on same tour and came out but unfortunatly they didn't. We get on airplanes and are lucky because things can go wrong. Life can change in seconds. We are all blessed and life is precious.
planes actually have to pass safety testing, not even close to the same...
@@armondhammer9only after years of operating and accidents were they then required to have regulations.
Don't cherry pick history to match your argument
Really appreciate your empathetic take on things, I viewed all of this the same way. I truly can’t believe some of the cruel comments, jokes, ETC, that I’ve came across this entire time. It was definitely risky, but having been successful that many times before gave them false confidence. The CEO was also a very good salesman (unethical) who failed to provide critical accurate data, & downplayed every risk.
Others risked their lives trying to rescue a crew that the co-founder knew had possibly imploded. They searched for 4 days.
@@topofthemorning6832 That's exactly what you just did
5 grown men, all decent size inside that sub which was only 22 feet long? WTF! Talk about claustrophobia! You couldn't have paid me millions to get in that thing.
it was poorly designed and built with improper materials, and never certified. they dropped their weights 2/3rds of the way down to try and ascend, but didnt make it. the military heard it implode that first day.
Josh Gates has impressed me with how he’s chosen to speak on this. It’s very respectable. There is one thing I know, some incredible lives were lost. I, for one, do not believe Stockton Rush falls in that category because of his ego but I still feel for his friends and family. All their friends and family.
I agree.
I thought so also
I've always been a fan of Josh Gates, but the way he spoke on this tragedy gained more of my respect. So much heart, and respect and honor for those lost. Thank you for being so well spoken and speaking from your soul.
Josh is and has always been a class act ❤
There is a definite demarcation between courage and ignorance.
They were not Exploring or anything like that. The Company was paid £1000,000 to take four people on a Jaunt a Day out to see a mass grave sight so they could boast about what they had done and seen.
Of all the people I have heard speak to this sad event, Josh Gates is without a doubt the most eloquent and direct in his opinion. If there weren't adventurers we would never have left the caves in which we used to dwell. While I myself wouldn't have had the courage to do that extreme of an adventure, I think society does need the type of people that seek out the extreme and take those dangerous paths. It's because of them that we have airplanes, trains, boats, cars, horse carriages, and even fire. I think that there should have been more consideration about the wear and tear of multiple dives with that submersible and I really don't think that multiple members of a family should ever be allowed to jointly do anything as risky as this adventure was and certainly no one under age 21.
Dont glorify this. It wasnt an "scientific" expedition. Its a tourist destination. The ocean gate should be SUED and permanently shut down. Idiot rush used a wireless ps3 controller, home depot and airplane parts for his trash bucket. The guy LIED in his own website saying the sub was safe at 4k meters when it was only certified for 1.3k meters.
All for a quick buck! He was even know to hire college grabs. Inexperienced staff all to save money and avoid whitlseblowers. (Which he fired and sued, the last whistle blower) guy was scum of the earth. Needlessly put peoples lives at risk all for money
ALL THESE THINGS HAVE BROUGHT HUMANITY TO ITS END
Problem is, the people who didn’t buy a ticket for disaster and risked their lives to save the lives of people who ignored warnings. Terrible tragedy.
@@sheliafarmer No, with all respect, these are the people who have carried us forward. Without their type we would still be huddling in our caves. These are the bold folk who DARED for the rest of us.
@@sheliafarmer Humanity ended? When? I must have been busy working that day...