traded my 6.2 FORD for 7.3 Godzilla. Time to be HONEST!
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2023
- In my videos I talk about my experience owning my Ford F350 with the 7.3 GODZILLA V8. I also feature my 2019 F250 with the 6.2 L gas v8, And if you like diesel content we also feature 6.7 powerstoke content as well. Comment below and thanks for watching!
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I won’t get rid of my 6.2 with the 6 speed. Absolutely bulletproof.
I actually traded my 2022 7.3 for all the transmission issues that you went over. I’m in a 2019 6.2 with 6speed and much happier. Much better daily driver/work truck.
Nice review
The 6.2 is a nice engine!
Can I ask you What kind axle do you have on 6.2
Isn’t mpg a bit worse for 6.2s?
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That is why I will not get rid of my 2001 and 2002 7.3 diesel superduties. They have been running great for decades. These new trucks are way overpriced and overcomplicated for no reason.. You don't need a window module to open it along with the other 40-plus module to run the truck.
Ironic because the transmission on those trucks is the weakest link.
@@blackburd That's true my 2001 had 5 transmissions my 2002 is only gone through one and the beginning I'have otherso people driving the 2001 they destroyed them It's for snow plowing if you drive it yourself and take care of it you won't have a problem
Mr. DS another great video thank you for being honesty. That what is important, looking forward to your next can't wait. Looking forward to seeing you plow with the fords...
Thanks 👍
People forget that the 10-speed transmission is a smart transmission, and it takes time to learn how you drive.
Thanks for the honest review, especially as someone who is depending on their truck for work.
Thank you mine actually does that too After coasting for a bit. Going in for the wiper recall soon I’ll have to mention it
My f250 7.3 with 3:55 axel no issues after 20000 miles. Do alot of 11,000 lbs RV pulling. Love the truck!.
How does it pull at higher elevations? Thanks
The pulling is about at 8,000 ft or less.
22 F350 7.3 - My Trans really smoothed out by 15k miles. Had a few hiccups like the ones you mentioned but it just kept improving as it broke in. I'm going to keep it. Don't idle it for hours at a time, and 5k oil changes if you use motorcraft oil.
I’m not buying a late model truck until they come with 18 speeds. And bigger grills. And taller box sides.
There might be a fix to your harsh drop in to gear. I had similar problems with mine and the dealer changed some seals in the transmission which cured it. There is a TSB for the issue. They will probably try a transmission relearn first though
I've had many 6 speed transmissions in ford trucks and they banged around way more then my 2020 tremor with the 7.3 ever has. Love the new trans and motor combo.
Very informative thank you for the video
Man I can 109% agree on the trans! I have the 2021 f600 with the 7.3 Godzilla. Trans shifts hard as hell. I have had my truck lurch forward a good foot sitting at a stop light in drive with my foot on the brake. Almost like it decides to down shift from 5th to 1st after you’ve stopped. It’s a dog pushing snow, I am going to have to try it in manual shift I guess.
What i've experienced with my ten speed is that it will clunk into gear if the transmission is still cold after it warms up it's fine.
The 10 speed mellows with age like all of us...just give it time
In a die hard chevy guy...I must admit. My work truck is a 2016 6.2 f250...it has 341k miles..not one issue and I tow cars with it from the auction. Best n/a gas ever
2020 250 with the 7.3. Take a second or two to slowly put in gear. That solves it in mine.
The transmission not shifting out of D was probably ice/snow impeding the shift linkage. This happens all the time with work trucks mud bogging all day, and we have to get an undercarriage wash and then problem solved.
My anxiety of diesel engine derating because of EPA requirements increases as the miles add up with a travel trailer. I switched to the 2023 Godzilla and never looked back. The Godzilla with 10 speed is a perfect match for me. Also, the Godzilla has flat torque cures that is good for towing. BTY no shifting problems and it is the same tranny that is in the diesel that may result in longer life with the gas. Keep in mind that the tranny is a torque converter, and a 10 speed offers smoother shift points that would increase its longevity and characteristics close to a constant velocity converter.
The engine is underrated from the factory, dynos have shown this on stock trucks
I’ve had two fords with the 10 speed - a 2018 f150 EB and our ‘21 expedition. Traded the f150 in on a ‘17 SD with the 6spd at around 70k miles. It was starting to act up. I towed with it quite a lot, but it was set up for max tow capacity and never pulled more than about 11k. Our ‘21 expedition is in getting a new transmission at 60k. Never towed. I’ll avoid the 10speed from now on. The 6speed is dead reliable.
So this is what ive learned over the last 3 years with my 2020 f250 godzilla. After a cold start, if you immediately put it into drive or reverse, its going to lurch. After a few minutes of warming up, it's fine and i have no problem. I think its because the idle RPMs are so high off a cold start, around 1,500 in my truck. Once its down closer to 1k it doesnt lurch and if its warm already it never does it. When driving, if you dont want it to constantly keep shifting, be gentle on the pedal. Just a little more oressure and it will downshift, or let off too much and itll upshift when you dont really want it too. I just try to keep a steady speed and its not gear hunting as much. I only have 22k but i have not had any problems with the engine so far, no bad spark plug wire and no lifter tick. A little bit of towing, but mostly maxing out the payload with gravel and compost, etc. I've probably hauled 15 tons of gravel. Empty i get about 16mpg which is fantastic. A bed full of gravel is around 13. Where i live its not flat but I wouldnt say very hilly either, just short steep inclines every once in a while. Love the truck. Crew cab LB XL
I have a '21 F350 7.3L as well. I would concure with your statements above.
Mine lurches after being warmed up, lurches every time I’ve come to a complete stop.
From my experience as an old hot rodder trying to keep all these old pushrod motors happy, zinc is mandatory. I'd either run an additive with zinc, or use rotella t. It's a shame we have to figure this stuff out on our own. Motorcraft synthis blend 5w20 is great for mod motors, its not great for pushrods
Ahhhh
I have a 2019 super duty an for tax reasons my accountant tells me that I should trade it and get something else for a better ride off but there’s nothing out there that’s going to be as dependable and reliable as a 6.2 gas motor with six speed, automatic transmission, dependability and reliability is the top thing on my list for my business. Don’t necessarily care all that much about gas mileage as dependability.
6.2L means flex fuel right?
I have a 2016 F150 with 370k miles, original 6 speed transmission and 3.5 eco boost engine. Never a problem other than general maintenance on a truck with 370k. My old man has a 10 speed 2020 and is already having to replace his transmission at 160k miles. I hate how the 10 speed feels and in my experience it doesn't have a long life. Just bought a new F250 and insisted on getting a model with a 6 speed.
when go in drive or reverse if engine is cold you will have a rough shift, truck will jump, if engine is warm shifting will be smooth
I have had no issues with my 7.3 ,and after 25000 miles the transmission works great. I put a pedal commander on it and it's a different truck.
You may have had snow jam packed up in your transmission linkage. Likely why it hasn't happened again. Happens on the 6 speeds and the 10 speeds with mud all the time. I've had to climb under and chip it out with a screwdriver before on different occasions. Another telltale sign is when it looks like you got the truck in park but it will not start because the linkage on the transmission hasn't actually fully moved in to park.
Part of that 10 speed is government regulations to get better fuel economy
I have a 6.2 2012 F350 Lariat. It has 255,000 miles no problems. My research says, by fleets , my truck will go over 450,000 miles.
Someone commented on a Ram 6.7 gas....Ram cant make transmissions or pumpkins! There electrical is garbage.
I agree with your 10 speed theory but never drove one....The manufacturer is trying to get mpg
It seems all vehicle manufacturers from 2013 and up have a multitude of powertrain problems, and catastrophic at that! And yet, the prices have almost doubled -go figure. As long as people keep buying them every few years, it won't change. I will say the older F250s with the 6.2 and torqueshift transmission are capable, smooth as butter, and bulletproof.
I have a 2021 and when driving in slushy conditions I have a problem with it building up on the shifter. I have luck getting it to break loose by shifting from drive to manual a few times then I am able to get it in to reverse or park
Is the clunk on start up the cdf drum priming? I asked Rich at fordbossme and I believe that’s what he said.
Good video.
Thanks Tom
The problem with the 10 speeds are they’re are way too many gears now. So that transmission is always up shifting or down shifting in the city, used to you had to go down 3 or 4 in your old truck, now you gotta shift bout 5 or 6 times. Dont know about the hard shift into gear
I'd listen to this guy fellas, he has had both and works the hell out of them . 10 speed is just for a small gas mileage savings , maybe
Do you notice the knocking noise still in the trans?
Just wait till the new 6.7 gas ram comes out. From what I been hearing it's going be a torque machine
Truck still gonna fall apart around it.
Does your trans still make the knock noise?
I just wish Ford gave you the option between the 6 speed and the 10 speed for the 7.3. The van cutaways and the larger chassis trucks get the 6 speed but not the 10. Does ford feel the 6 speed to be more robust to only offer that in the larger models? I have read lots of mixed opinions on the 10 speed but pretty much nothing but good things about the 6.
My 2021 F250 Lariat FX4 7.3-4.30 gears no issues at 15k miles
What’s the longest do you keep a truck there’s a guy named Richard cinch on youtube he can build transmission better the factory
Transmission on my 10 speed expedition failed
I have not heard of gm 6.6 having problems with cams or lifters or motors coming apart.
My F250 w/ 7.3L tows my travel trailer works great for my needs. On trips from Florida to the mountains in Pennsylvania the truck is always in the right power band.. My previous F150 w/ 3.5L -10 speed towed the same trailer on the same trip did well too. The 3.5L though was so much quieter towing than the 7.3L. Also I miss the fuel mileage of the 3.5L
The 3.5 has always impressed me with its power. It out pulls about every gas engine.
I've gone the same route. F150 Heavy Tow 3.5L Eco to a new '21 F350 7.1L. 95% of its use is for towing a 8400# travel trailer. Here in the Pacific N.W. we have a lot of hills & mtns. The ECO was great, no lack of power. Just too light. MPG's are about the same towing Empty there was a difference . 17 vs 24 on the HWY; but I so seldom use it empty on the hwy, I don't care. The F350 holds the road a lot better in cross winds & Semi's passing us. A lot of people bad mouthed the 3.5L Eco; I'd always ask if they owned one. That quiet's them down quickly. I only had problems with the throttle body. Once I got that resolved we were good for a fair amount of miles. And yes, the ECO was quieter.
I’m currently towing my 32 ft 7,000 pound TT with an f150 5.0. It tows the trailer great but I get blown around a bit. I am considering trading for the f250 7.3 to solve that issue. Did you notice a big difference in controlling the trailer upgrading to the 250?
@bigp6071 Apologize if your not asking me, I wasn't sure...BUT I upgraded from a F150 to a F350. I bought mine new so it's only a $1700 upgrade from a F250 in '21. Didn't really need it but you gain 1k load cap and EVERTHING is identical except one leaf spring in the rear. Yes, major difference in driving & towing experience. The F150 had the power but I was just on the 2050# weight cap; not the towing cap. Mine was the "Heavy Tow" F150. Hugh difference in going down the road with little to no sway when semi's pass or a cross wind. The F150 weighed ~5k #; the F350 weighs ~7500#. MPG's little to no difference towing. You have a lot of real estate up in the air with a 32'tt to blow you around.
@@herb7877Considering a similiar move. Did I read that correct you are getting 17MPG hwy (unladen) with the 7.3?
Also love my ecoboost, F150 gets the job done but I am at or slightly over my rear axle capacity. No where near tow capacity.
Have 2018 @2022 5.0 coyote 10spds. '18 skip shifts from 1st to 3rd, 3rd to 5th. '22 hits every gear all the time. '18 has 112,000 with no problems. '22 has 32,000 no problems. As far as I know 8,9,10 are all overdrive. I have no issues with this tranny perhaps you need to tell your dealership so they can resolve the issue instead of whine and complain.
I think you got a bad trans right off the rip. I had a 2020 f350 7.3 and had the same problem with hard shifts and weird noises coming out of it at idle in neutral. I traded it in for a 2022 f350 7.3 and this trans has worked great no issues like I had with the first one.
Dang. If these rates come down
I know I’ll have this 22 paid off in two more years and hopefully the rates are down by then. I can’t afford a 100k truck 🤯
My 6r100 in my 21 6.2 does all that, bangs around when you pull up to a stop light, makes clunks before shifting a couple times per week. My 6r140 in my 2016 was great.
Mine did that while coasting , there is a tsb on it . Had it done , does it no more .
@@kenj.8897mine does funny stuff when coasting. 45mph or under and I almost expect it.
Did you have the dealer reprogram the trans????
Have the dealership update the tcm.
I hear the 6.0 and the 6.2 are junk compared to 6.7 diesel, do I have that wrong?
These trucks really favor a smaller gearing, 4.10s and lower to take advantage of the ten speed.
My 22 Chev 2500 gas 6.6 engine uses 5w-30 weight oil, 8 quarts
Yep same for the 7.3
You know, all I see are theae reviews that talk about everything, except how, or even if, it was broken in. All I see are new trucks being gunned and immediately put into heavy hauling. I don't think proper break in is being done because no pne now a days knows how to.
Your first problem is using that transmission for snowplowing. If you are constantly going from reverse to drive and driving slow speeds after driving on the highway or towing it doesnt know what to do.
You should have bought a late 90s F250/350 or Chevy/GMC 2500/3500 to plow with. It is way too hard on transmissions to be using a 10spd transmission you only need the first 3 gears in for plowing.
My 2022 7.3/10spd/4.30s doesnt do any of that.
Ohhh. Ok
The transmission doesnt know what to do ?? its not confusing you stop and shift. Been plowing for 25 years and the last thing I would go back to is a late 90s truck. If your one of those meatheads and you shift without stopping or hit snowbanks at high speed shits going to break. Only issue Ive had with 2000-2019 automatic transmissions is one sensor that took me an hour to replace after dropping the pan. There is no OEM work truck on the market that doesnt have a major issue with one of the systems ,motor, or transmission. I keep waiting for a reliable combo because Im tired of Fords BS, down time cost me a lot of money.
I have a Chevrolet 6.6 gas with the 10 speed and I don’t like it. Too busy and hard shifts between 7th and 8th gear
I'd like to see a REAL comparison between a owner of the newest Ford diesel who changed to the 7.3 or other way around.
Put it 2 u like this. The 7.3 with the 4.30 gear ratio, In a pick up... Will do everything you need it to do... Except be as fuel efficient as the diesel.
they should bring back the 460 and 4 speed. tried and true tech!
That would be interesting. 🤔
I have a 460/ZF5 and 7.3/10R140 and I would NEVER advocate for bringing back 4spds. 5spd minimum. The 4spd had too many power gaps where rpm difference was too great between gears. Even the ZF5 has gaps between 4th and 5th that you could use for towing but also a 1st gear that is useless when not towing.
Seems like the 7.3 is ford admitting the 7.5 was king to me. No replacement for it! Had it right in '68!
460 was the best engine I ever had in a pickup. Better gas mileage too and without the 10 speed transmission crap.
Personally I think the difference between the 6.2 and 7.3 is huge. No so much daily driving with little to no load but pulling 10k+ they’re worlds apart.
put some timbrens on the rear axle
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After buying Fords for 40years a bit of advise for work. Just stick with the truck you like ,figure out how to repair it to work out the bugs. You just end up in a vicious cycle of buying Fords next problem child. Id buy two new trucks right now for my business if any of the big three produced a reliable truck. Modern diesels have endless EGR regen and limp mode issues. Fuel pumps coming apart,, oil pan issues (a 30 year ford issue) . Chevy forgot people are going to tow shit with 4500-6500 line up and thats the nicest looking truck on the market. Dodge is just to much to list to even consider. So the choices remain what truck looks good cause there all going into the shop before you hit 20k.
Towing capacity is very different in my opinion
an engine with a power range of nearly 6k rpms dont NEED a 10 speed.perhaps a diesel limited to 1800 like class 8 trucks, but not 6k. just more to needlessly fail.
Put a turbo on it
is it the same 10 speed in the diesel??
Yes
Unfortunately EPA screws everything
Yeah, air pollution is much better to have. Go to China where they don’t have EPA controls. Bring your own oxygen bottle.
We need the MAGA man.
The 7.3 is pushrod in order to get better low-end torque than the 6.2. The delamination issue looks to be due to bad parts (batch), as most 7.3s do not have that issue. The 7.3 is designed to work hard and last a long time doing it. The 6.2 would no longer meet emissions requirements. Ford needs to bring back the 6R140!!!
The 6R is definitely less problematic.
The 6.2 doesn't meet emissions but the 7.3 does? What did they change that made emissions better? I thought the 7.3 was a step into the past for ford to pushrod. Figured more displacement meant more emissions.
@@LifeisGood762 I get what you are saying. It wasn’t just about emissions. The 7.3L took the place of the 6.8L V10. It was a warranty nightmare for ford. It eased used in F450 up and cab/chassis RV’s. The new 6.8L V8 takes the place of the 6.2L SOHC engine. In higher GVW’s the emissions isn’t as strict. Over 14k GVW it’s a lower emissions rating. Don’t know the specifics but that’s kinda it.
@matthewnosal6893 They were making the v10 all the way up until the 7.3? That was a cool engine but they're hard to find. Lots on Facebook marketplace blown up. I think the 7.3 is a good idea for ford, we'll see how later versions do and the longevity. 6.2 sure was dependable though.
F**k 10 AND 6 speeds. Give me a 4 or 5 speed manual trans.
6, 10, whatever. I just wish I could get a manual.
Trade out of it quickly!
Mine will only idle for 1/2hr or so
Wow
Hello
Never buy supercab !
How long until chevy brings the 454 back and dodge the 440? Can't wait.
You’ll never drive a dodge, cuz they are always on the back of a tow truck
The reason you’re trans may had problems because it was to hot
Idk
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you had better get rid of that 7.3 back to the dealer -
It seems that ford has not learned from there bad design of the V6 where head gasket issue was very big and also there 4 cylinder engines as well where They of all things put a small slit between the cylinders for cooling and the head gaskets fail. So be warned and save your wallet Cause it will happen!! Coolant will start causing the issue where it will seep into the cylinder...
here's the proof -ruclips.net/video/Z7F7xyYXtGw/видео.htmlsi=10Zp5er4DmnJcDTy watch this video and see for yourself...Try and get the word out of this bad design.
Chevy 's are no good either because of the FMS - {fuel management system} - Dodge unknown at this time. You'd be better off getting a Toyota tundra
I don't recommend Ford. Owned 2 from new.. Japanese vehicles are the best
I like toyota and lexus. But they don't offer heavy-duty trucks .
Ur crazy if u think the gas godzillla is near the 6.7