Proof Chapter 14 Is For New Players

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @tumsYT
    @tumsYT  19 дней назад +141

    In case you don't know Theresa has a 90% DR when there are orbs between your operator and her.
    This means that if you want to do good damage you need to tank the orbs somehow
    In phase 1 she also summons cocoons around your operators, but she can only do this in the 8 tiles around her, so as long as you spam some op that can be retreated and redeployed like Gravel and Beanstalk's crab, you can easily avoid the gimmick while still doing good damage
    If she doesn't have any cocoons around her, there's nothing hard about blasting her phase 2 to death. The cocoons are a very strong mechanic but they're so easily cheesed it doesn't matter

    • @Zero_Shift
      @Zero_Shift 18 дней назад +7

      Oh, I dont read. That explains why my shit didn't deal any damage. i thought I was being smart when I had really strong ops that weren't melee. I guess "Just surtr it" wouldve actualyl been the right play

    • @marcodragon4995
      @marcodragon4995 18 дней назад +6

      I SWEAR I READ HER ENEMY INFO AND IT DIDN'T SAY SHIT ABOUT THE ORBS GIVING HER DAMAGE REDUCTION

    • @hellnickyable
      @hellnickyable 18 дней назад +1

      how do you exactly "dodge" the cocoons

    • @vazhenka9303
      @vazhenka9303 18 дней назад

      @@hellnickyable she will release cocoons when you leave her at 45% hp. So just remove all operators in 8 tiles around her around that moment. Then you can deploy them again, she does it only once.

    • @Serxne_
      @Serxne_ 18 дней назад +1

      @@hellnickyable There's an audio cue for the cocoons. Just remove any operators in the area when you hear it. Best to rely on the tiles to the north for ranged physical and arts damage, while having some units tank the redeploy-on-sound trigger (like beanstalk's crabs, gravel, etc) and orbs. In phase 2, there are orbs that cover the the tiles outside of the original 8 tiles too, tank them and you're good. Lin comes in handy here, but anything will do, if you can outheal it.

  • @burpium1767
    @burpium1767 19 дней назад +275

    I think it's easier compared to previous chapters mostly due to maps layout being tunneled (mostly) instead of several blue boxes across the whole maps 😂

  • @zzzzaaann3120
    @zzzzaaann3120 19 дней назад +104

    Returning player here, i think so too. The stages were easier than chapter 12 or 13. I can still use a lot of early operators even without module and they're not even built to max.

  • @BillyONeal
    @BillyONeal 19 дней назад +74

    Instructions unclear, too distracted by the tops and whether we're in a dream....

  • @Thoughts4Food-v9u
    @Thoughts4Food-v9u 18 дней назад +24

    Squad A6, I'm sending you to the greatest fight of your life. While my other operators deal with world ending threats.

  • @Kurnia14258
    @Kurnia14258 19 дней назад +124

    Chapter 12, E2 LV 90 M3 still hard as hell
    Chapter 14, do we need e2?

    • @vazhenka9303
      @vazhenka9303 18 дней назад +2

      Well, 12-20 can be done with E1 lvl1 4* operators as well. So is 12 chapter the easy one as well? :) I guess the hard stages are H ones after all.

    • @dangng7079
      @dangng7079 17 дней назад +1

      ​@@vazhenka9303i dont think 14-17 is possible with e1 lv1 4* tho

    • @vazhenka9303
      @vazhenka9303 17 дней назад

      @@dangng7079 Ha, you underestimate the power of 4*. There is 14-17 record with E1lvl1 4* on arkrec. Adverse version.

  • @rage665s
    @rage665s 19 дней назад +40

    It took me 4 hours to beat this with a full metamancing squad, used kal and nalter to chip with true damage while mlynar and friends try to free eachother from stun

    • @rage665s
      @rage665s 19 дней назад +17

      I didn't know what the gimmick was so I thought you just needed an absurd amount of true damage

    • @Phoenixzz12
      @Phoenixzz12 18 дней назад +16

      My Goldenglow got cocooned. She infinitely releasing herself

    • @notusneo
      @notusneo 18 дней назад +3

      ​@@Phoenixzz12 same thing happened to me for the first few tries lmao

    • @Derin7890
      @Derin7890 18 дней назад

      Skalter S3 can help a lot

    • @Phoenixzz12
      @Phoenixzz12 18 дней назад

      @@Derin7890 "Just Surtr It" also help

  • @stymphalian
    @stymphalian 18 дней назад +5

    Here I was actually reading Theresa's skill description this time and still didn't understand how the hell the orbs worked.
    I just surrounded Theresa with grounds ops to ensure no dmg reduction.
    nice clear!

  • @Anaeri-w5x
    @Anaeri-w5x 14 дней назад +5

    I'd just like to assume that they made 14 easier to give us a break from those previous chapters 😂

  • @Reak_Siracusa
    @Reak_Siracusa 18 дней назад +4

    Well, the fact that i was able to clear this chapter guideless says everything

  • @lynca9530
    @lynca9530 19 дней назад +39

    this chapter all gimmick no skills really needed for built roster, good for new player i guess

  • @TacticalVIHI
    @TacticalVIHI 18 дней назад +7

    When sound play...
    Epic Battle fantasy intenseifed ☠️
    Hail Phyrnna

  • @docarknightsmattgaming
    @docarknightsmattgaming 17 дней назад +2

    I was so confusing with this stage without guides with 6 star operators and 4 operator and the glowing floor spreading and the stun and the undeploy it make it hard but with some guides it makes it look easy thank you T-T.

  • @hendrihendri3939
    @hendrihendri3939 19 дней назад +23

    One more proof that Tums only seeks the *Thrill* of the battle
    Why speedrun CE bossfight when hen can *torturously chip her away?*

  • @firesturmgaming
    @firesturmgaming 19 дней назад +8

    I simply used my brand new Wis'Adel's S3. Even though, I haven't trained the skill yet it still slaps. Her and the Abyssal Hunters. And Kal'sit. And Amiya of course. Cos I was too lazy to play it strategically. I just really wanted Harmacist Amiya as soon as possible.

  • @Arnuski
    @Arnuski 18 дней назад +4

    Hai Mao, you monster, not only you made us kill Theresa once, but TWICE in a row, HOW MISERABLE WE NEED TO BE JUST TO QUENCH YOUR THIRST FOR OUR SUFFERING!?💢💢💢💢💢💢

  • @Pep_Lxwd
    @Pep_Lxwd 17 дней назад +2

    This stage was like the only somewhat difficult stage in the entire chapter lol

  • @dartr045
    @dartr045 18 дней назад +1

    I went this for 1 hour only after against CE and like, this is very good one if you're still new and seeing this. Going with AH, Shu Squad (4 early AH, No Spalter, and 2DGC Shu Ops class pattern), 1 medic and Ela (Trust farming) for the entire mission 14 is challenging to say the least but sometime in the run kind of picking Swalter just for pushing Originum beacon for fun.
    Definitely a fun run, I really think or somewhat curious if you beat this on Adverse while you in still early player.

  • @cathylunn2809
    @cathylunn2809 18 дней назад +3

    The biggest problem is one of the mandatory stages requires you to have amyia at e2 so no, chapter 14 is not for the newbies

  • @m_imran7957
    @m_imran7957 17 дней назад +7

    I feels like the stage was design to insult rushing or unga bunga player. The boss didn't even atk you but you are rushing to kill the boss and then get stuck in 2nd phase.

    • @Shikamaru747
      @Shikamaru747 12 дней назад +1

      As a hardcore unga bunya player who just throw 6 stars at every problem, I found this stage really hard XD has to actually understand the boss mechanic to beat her, like some sort of plebeian

  • @vgmaster20000
    @vgmaster20000 18 дней назад +2

    EBF music jumpscare

  • @Key_Swire
    @Key_Swire 14 дней назад +1

    i got blueballed when i just finish theresa, altough there will be phase 3

  • @MrDmarDX
    @MrDmarDX 15 дней назад +1

    I saw someone did it with
    Yato Spot Ansel Amiya and Waltuh
    in a mine and 20 sec
    Ye Theresa is something to treasure

    • @Charlett
      @Charlett 14 дней назад

      I think there was alr solo clear of Walter

  • @demonqiqi
    @demonqiqi 19 дней назад +8

    I think im halfway through the chapter, every level is a 1st try even in adverse mode
    Yes i do agree with you

  • @DoktahPalthus
    @DoktahPalthus 19 дней назад +5

    Lmao, I'm only like 54 lvl or so, managed to accidentally blitzkrieg the Theresa by using Hellagur and Zuo Le

  • @rw6611
    @rw6611 19 дней назад +3

    I miss the old title

  • @awesomesauce980
    @awesomesauce980 18 дней назад +1

    You know, I read that those little wisp things reduced damage but I didn't realize by how much. Nor did I really consider the tactic of "throw bodies at the problem until you crush your enemies under the pile" but still...

  • @zetazaku8045
    @zetazaku8045 19 дней назад +2

    The chapter is easier but then we also have to build walter 😅 use her through stages like hot knifes through butter😂

  • @totsukabladez369
    @totsukabladez369 18 дней назад +1

    Enmity ops unironically gimmick theresa. I beat her with zuo le skill 2 and didnt even undeploy him. He just sat there and spammed skill 2, and then i got rid of the cocoon stuns with texas alter and lee.

  • @happylancelot7563
    @happylancelot7563 19 дней назад +1

    Подожди ка, но ведь без Амии, своей, прокачанной, просто не даёт запустить бой.
    Что делать то?

  • @Blak_star_Dcjn
    @Blak_star_Dcjn 18 дней назад +1

    I couldn't beat H13-4 because hitting the boss with r2ria3S, wishadel3S, goldenglow3S, logos 3S, ascaron 2S, yatoalter 3S, lin(or was it rin the one using glass arts idk in En)3S, jessicat alter 3S for 5min straight didn't kill that freaking vampire.. yet the levanant and theresa...oddly easy for a end boss

    • @Charlett
      @Charlett 14 дней назад

      I mean if u dont use Ch13 mechanics Im not suprised u struggle against him bcs he has crazy damage reduction

  • @kyarumomochi5146
    @kyarumomochi5146 19 дней назад +4

    Kill gate boss idea was intresting but they REALLY underestimated howmuch people would abuse it 😭

  • @rabies6418
    @rabies6418 19 дней назад +1

    I wonder if hostile environment makes it harder…

    • @tumsYT
      @tumsYT  18 дней назад +1

      This is hostile environment
      It's a completely irrelevant CM change cause the enemies are just sitting there waiting for u to kill them

  • @thatkidfox
    @thatkidfox 19 дней назад +2

    WAIT THERES NO TIMEGATE?!?!?!?!?!?!

    • @thatkidfox
      @thatkidfox 19 дней назад

      oh wait nvm i hadnt finished the video to see the encroaching stuff

  • @DrSalt7064
    @DrSalt7064 18 дней назад +1

    Did HG fired whoever worked on ch12 or something? that hellhole exist, pretty sure average player won't be able to clear that stage before getting a full squad of E2s "unless it is story envrionment". Which begs the question why in the hell ch13s adverse stage were harder than this...
    sure chapter mechanics oughta be it right...
    also that boss stage felt buggy, whatever boss does is not clear at all, my attempts were like:
    me: Bro why i can't retreat Texas?, Why Mon3tr stopped attacking, why Shu also stunned?! "loses 1 LP" this game is...
    game: *Mission accomplished*
    me: wtf is this half of enemies haven't even spawned yet
    that was the day i lost 48 sanity
    then i learn here that i could just retreat operator i put there right before she does whatever she does so she doesn't get to fload whole map with her thing

  • @darkstaralheraki9041
    @darkstaralheraki9041 19 дней назад +2

    It took me only 28 enemies worth of time to blow her

  • @gigablast4129
    @gigablast4129 19 дней назад +1

    yeah did feel kinda easy

  • @doc7113
    @doc7113 19 дней назад +7

    Can't even continue chapter 14 myself though despite being a later game player because they force you to have Amiya E2'd, and I haven't even looked at the donkey since the end of the first chapter, and idk if I can do it in time because I blew all my resources building WAlter. Cry

    • @underuS3d_
      @underuS3d_ 19 дней назад +24

      You need to have Amiya E2'd by the time you fight Talulah though.
      What kind of "late game" player are you 😅

    • @cheekywombat9208
      @cheekywombat9208 19 дней назад +3

      ​@@underuS3d_Maybe events and other non-story game modes? It is also possible to skip Chapter 4 and go straight to Chapter 9, so I wonder if other people actually did that.

    • @vanzeralltheway8638
      @vanzeralltheway8638 18 дней назад +7

      ​@@underuS3d_Obviously, he is the kind of player that ignore the main quest and focus on the side quest, lmao.
      And honestly, i can understand that. I myself am the firm believer of "skip story, farming first" only to forget and never read the story ever again.

    • @doc7113
      @doc7113 18 дней назад

      @@vanzeralltheway8638 This is the correct answer in addition to the fact I'm simultaniously on chapter 6 and 9, I have a lot of the stronger units maxed out and yet I haven't reached Talulah or even second Frostnova (I think that's a thing) Because I farm materials and build my account instead because frankly it's a better use for sanity. This guy questions if I'm a late game player by my progress on the story, meanwhile my maxed out WAlter could probably blast most of the bosses in the game in one S3 use if I actually decided to use up the sanity to progress story, lmao.

    • @Jaxter0987
      @Jaxter0987 12 дней назад

      @@doc7113 I don't get why you wouldn't want to use sanity to progress story. Some of the best farming maps are locked behind story. You're actually just farming materials inefficiently if you're not using sanity on story stages because "its a better use for sanity".

  • @satriorama4118
    @satriorama4118 13 дней назад

    Yeah. Chapter 14 is much easier than Ch 13

  • @Ripperdingo69
    @Ripperdingo69 19 дней назад +4

    Nah you lying if you want me to believe chapter 14 is for new players thne do it ALL not just one stage

    • @tumsYT
      @tumsYT  18 дней назад

      There's only two stages harder than this, one I'll upload
      Everything else is much easier

  • @AlaskaV3
    @AlaskaV3 19 дней назад +1

    Can somebody explain why Theresa appears in this chapter right after Babel ends? I would assume it’s a simulation of her since this stage literally killed my eyes yesterday

    • @nobody-m9x
      @nobody-m9x 14 дней назад

      Spoiler alert
      Theresa is alive since chap 10

  • @flowgil8638
    @flowgil8638 17 дней назад +1

    I agree but i didn't know that if you beat the boss the 2nd time you won 😅 i quit every time when i cant deploy and no characters left but it was already the end🥹🥹🥹🥹 it took me 45 tries till i watched the guide and found out🥲 luckily no depletion of sanity(in game)😢

  • @SPSJ173
    @SPSJ173 19 дней назад +1

    Bruted forced with Typhon, Ray, Poz, Ela, Praminax, Shamare, ReedAlt, Muel, Ines, Virtuosa, YatoAlt, SilenceAlt and finally Shu for healing. Completely ignored the fact she has DR and
    finally killed her at 81/91.