The fact that She deals mix damage is quite nice. Also i love that people talk about how 10% natural DP regen is bad and her self heal is quite useful when they didnt even realize that both of them are on the same talent and her art damage is the other talent.
Doesnt change the fact that shes weak on all sides. Youd rather use an actual guard and just generate dp with flagpipe/ines Shes not strong enough to warrant bringing over other guards
true as someone who have pot 5 Bagpie its just straight out better use Flag bearer VG. if you need DP that badly in early Fang *5 or the Agent *5 should be able do the job
@@kyarumomochi5146 Not being the best is not at all equivalent to being weak, and if you are bringing flagpipe to every stage, are you really like, mechanically engaging with normal gameplay stages?
@@kyarumomochi5146your statement would have been correct if suzumom had bad dp generation (like how mumu is) but suzumom's dp generation is very close to flagbearers to the point you can replace myrtle if you want to (myrtle has 0.46dp/s compared to suzumom's 0.42dp/s including skill offtime afaik, also you can use lappland alter for sp boost instead of bagpipe kinda)
Not exactly for me but I'm gonna love her in more "apeshit" stages were i don't want to worry about it, just put her there and activate her skill like 2 times when there are too much enemies.
i thought it was a flametail powercreep with how she's basically nonexistent on s3 but remembered her camouflage talent love these fast cycling vanguards so much, they need to release more
Powercreep is mostly for P2W gameplay, as far as I'm concerned. Arknights is good about letting more characters be viable in their own way, including older ones.
@@GawainW Siege is fixed with her modules? I think her s3 should be changed so that it allows it to generate some dp. It's actually kind of strange that it doesn't.
one thing i'm seeing is people mentioning that the 10% dp increase wouldn't work in CC due to it being percent based, but the debuffs to dp regen are also percent based meaning they shouldn't change the base value, so shouldn't the actual increase remain the same? i guess it wouldn't matter too much since 10% is still pretty small and she has to be on field for it to work anyways where she would already be printing dp, though it and the hp regen are nice bonuses
her dp talent seem quite interesting. i wonder if there could be a possible synergy with merchants? i might actually pull for her if she lets me use jaye and swire at the same time lol
I know this is a S3 Showcase video, however...... Vigil S2 makes 2DP and everyone mocked him. Meanwhile, Suzumom S1 makes ((literally)) 1DP and everyone is silent. #JusticeForVigil XD
@@zakiramdhani9942Is this bias? Because they did very well soloing both lane so saying Suzumom soloing right lane is only "aight" is a bit odd to say 😂
as a pioneer vanguard user, people rate suzumom too highly for my liking. all they ever talk about is the near-myrtle tier DP gen with the dps kinda similar to mid guards like qiubai. this is all true, in theory. in practice, if you have to bring a pioneer vanguard alone without any other vanguard to support it (since pioneer vanguards are made to save squad space by mixing dps and dp gen together), you have to DECIDE whether you use the skill either for dp gen or for clearing trash. this makes pioneers way more inconsistent than agents and flagbearers in which they have skills that generate dp per attack on-skill or have their main purpose ONLY for dp gen. don't get me wrong, suzumom's definitely the best pioneer vanguard we have, it's just that she's a pioneer vanguard which is basically a powercrept class because of agents. TLDR: don't go diving in numbers without actually knowing how you use pioneer vanguards...
It bumps her DP gen to 0.45/s on S2 and 0.42-ish/s on S3, for reference Myrtle has 0.467 on S1. Take away her natural DP gen buff and it sounds a lot less impressive.
I genuinely like how despite being a fearsome mafiosa Vulpisfoglia's default face is just ":)"
What being a mother does to an assassin
her baby's influence is too strong
Bro what do you expect shes our lights mom of its like that
it's more like >:) sometimes
@@King_Jockey Might've been her dad's influence considering what Suzuran inherited from him LOL
love the suzuran emotional support
The fact that She deals mix damage is quite nice.
Also i love that people talk about how 10% natural DP regen is bad and her self heal is quite useful when they didnt even realize that both of them are on the same talent and her art damage is the other talent.
Doesnt change the fact that shes weak on all sides. Youd rather use an actual guard and just generate dp with flagpipe/ines
Shes not strong enough to warrant bringing over other guards
true as someone who have pot 5 Bagpie its just straight out better use Flag bearer VG. if you need DP that badly in early Fang *5 or the Agent *5 should be able do the job
@@kyarumomochi5146 Not being the best is not at all equivalent to being weak, and if you are bringing flagpipe to every stage, are you really like, mechanically engaging with normal gameplay stages?
@@YukiKazami ???
@@kyarumomochi5146your statement would have been correct if suzumom had bad dp generation (like how mumu is) but suzumom's dp generation is very close to flagbearers to the point you can replace myrtle if you want to
(myrtle has 0.46dp/s compared to suzumom's 0.42dp/s including skill offtime afaik, also you can use lappland alter for sp boost instead of bagpipe kinda)
That's crazy trick on mumu 3:27
natural dp regen +10%
this is actually will help in CC with dp regen risk
Unfortunately it’s % based so slower DP gen likely affects it in CC as well, but it’s still nice
its a percentage, not flat. it will most likely scale down with dp gen debuffs, so your .25 dpps is bumping to .275 dpps
CC doesn't exist anymore.
@@Cr3zant DP down still exists with IS#4, and they announced a new CC will be on the way in 5.5 stream
@@Cr3zanti think you are wrong...if they dont do CC anymore, the CC tab will be gone
it't the fact that she has healing on her talent for me
She's truly a vanGUARD and I have no issue with that
She's probably gonna be a mainstay Vanguard like Ines for me. Looking good!
Not exactly for me but I'm gonna love her in more "apeshit" stages were i don't want to worry about it, just put her there and activate her skill like 2 times when there are too much enemies.
At 6:19 my heart almost stopped
He was a few frames away from having Vulpis exit the screen and beat the player herself
Vigil sweep 🐺
i thought it was a flametail powercreep with how she's basically nonexistent on s3 but remembered her camouflage talent
love these fast cycling vanguards so much, they need to release more
Powercreep is mostly for P2W gameplay, as far as I'm concerned. Arknights is good about letting more characters be viable in their own way, including older ones.
@@GawainW Siege is fixed with her modules? I think her s3 should be changed so that it allows it to generate some dp. It's actually kind of strange that it doesn't.
This is less flametail and more of a qiubai powercreep
I already see her being critical in all of the future CCs
3:31 Get out of my head Teri!!
Teri Teri ichiban kawaiiii!
2:09 smoothest transition ever
Wouldn't be surprised if this breaks a new record for vanguard knights in CC
Man they should have given her gradually increasing attack, with the degrading ASPD that would have been great.
one thing i'm seeing is people mentioning that the 10% dp increase wouldn't work in CC due to it being percent based, but the debuffs to dp regen are also percent based meaning they shouldn't change the base value, so shouldn't the actual increase remain the same?
i guess it wouldn't matter too much since 10% is still pretty small and she has to be on field for it to work anyways where she would already be printing dp, though it and the hp regen are nice bonuses
Huh, lane holding with Vigil really was a cakewalk, and he showcased it!
The ONLY person to actually use vigil
You forgot Kokokbeluk? Who bring Vigil in High risk CC?
@@ZenHorakti And his entire niche of freenights or welfarenights
You call me?
I use Vigil because Lupo
@@AlaskaV3Exactly
I think she's Best Pioneer right now. Her damage and sustain was balance.
6:17 i almost reported this video and this whole channel
the highlight for me in this banner make me want to pull because i don't care about lappland alter
Killing her daughter in front of her is just some sick shit
Also you can beat left side SV-8 with Kroos+Beagle/Cardigan/Melantha
I just realized, She's Boa Hancock
Definitely pulling her, like Pramanix she's got my favourite VA
Mathematically the hottest woman in all of fiction
her dp talent seem quite interesting. i wonder if there could be a possible synergy with merchants? i might actually pull for her if she lets me use jaye and swire at the same time lol
SV-8 was just as much of a Vigil showcase as it was a Vulpis showcase LMAO
If she is opposite of Ines skill 2 she occupies a weird niche.
I had hoped one of her talents is making enemies fear instead of whatever she is using.
we got lappalter for the fear
Can you compare SuzuMom Talent to Poncirus Skill 2 Unlimited Duration.
Bruh… kotono mitsuishi VA is so good for mommy character 😩🥵
Sorry flametail, Squirrel season is over is time for Fox season.
Idec if her kit is useful of not she's so fine
i would call her Lia from now on, so i could call mom & daughter as Lia & Lisa together 😘
and now for HG...
BRING OUT LOGOS MOM!!!!!!!!!
I wonder how her talent works with sp gen debuffs, will it be 25% + 10% from 25% = 27,5 or straight addition = 35%?
vanGUARD
I know this is a S3 Showcase video, however......
Vigil S2 makes 2DP and everyone mocked him. Meanwhile, Suzumom S1 makes ((literally)) 1DP and everyone is silent.
#JusticeForVigil XD
Its cuz of her talent making natural dp generation faster (and how she can actually decently lanehold.)
She have natural regen up, which make her dp generation with skills close to myrtle while being a proper offensive unit
everyone talk like that's his only skill
This video showcases how Vigil solos SV-8 bottom lane, which is krazy (Suzumom also solos right lane, which is aight I guess)
@@zakiramdhani9942Is this bias? Because they did very well soloing both lane so saying Suzumom soloing right lane is only "aight" is a bit odd to say 😂
Can I ask what songs in this video and I mean all songs 😊😊
Whats the name of the song for the first part of the song
found it, it's the lobby theme for the event her and lapp alter are in, Portatori Dei Velluti
@zeshsubo thx
01:51 what the theme song?
What song used in the tw-ex stage ?
Wait hang on at the second stage how did she recover her hp?Was it her talent or is there something i missing?
She recovers 4% max hp (5% at pot 5) if she hasnt taken any damage after a while so basically like thorn's talent
She has Thorns-like talent where if not attacked(?) she autoheals
Ah I see no wonder
her talent
First bgm?
Nice boa hancock VA showcase
wait really?
What are the bgms?
What’s the name of the music?
Wait... Vigil has a function now??
Oyakodon 😭
😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
end of era bagpipe?
it's been so long since ive had to deal with eggs (thank god) does her stun negate their rebuke
Stun always does, they don’t explode if they’re CC’d
@@slonik0002 thank you, i had actually forgotten it. Suppressed memories of having to deal with them from deepness and is3 lol
Is she a pioneer vanguard?
Yes
where is her flufffy nine tail?
1:02 Why that little shit not exploding? Is that because the stun?
Yes, they can’t explode when CC’d
@slonik0002 oh, I though is like Ch'en Alter bug in the old CC.
Does her talent generate DP in Annihilations? I'm guessing not
It says it increases
So it is a 50/50 till we find out ourselves
annihilations don't generate dp naturally, so i think you're right
It doesn’t, 10% more of 0 is 0.
Fox leaves in English n latin translation
Hag supremacy 😖😖😖
:O
Most people really dont recognize that slight difference in DP regen rate will be extremely valuable in high level CC runs
Except it seems to be %based, so it’s unfortunately not as helpful as was once expected by people.
Ines and Cantabile already negate DP regen rate risks and have been that way for years
as a pioneer vanguard user, people rate suzumom too highly for my liking.
all they ever talk about is the near-myrtle tier DP gen with the dps kinda similar to mid guards like qiubai. this is all true, in theory.
in practice, if you have to bring a pioneer vanguard alone without any other vanguard to support it (since pioneer vanguards are made to save squad space by mixing dps and dp gen together), you have to DECIDE whether you use the skill either for dp gen or for clearing trash. this makes pioneers way more inconsistent than agents and flagbearers in which they have skills that generate dp per attack on-skill or have their main purpose ONLY for dp gen.
don't get me wrong, suzumom's definitely the best pioneer vanguard we have, it's just that she's a pioneer vanguard which is basically a powercrept class because of agents.
TLDR: don't go diving in numbers without actually knowing how you use pioneer vanguards...
Her 10% faster DP rate is so useless it’s crazy but oh well 😭
You've never had moments where the run could've been saved if the DP gen was just _slightly_ faster?
It bumps her DP gen to 0.45/s on S2 and 0.42-ish/s on S3, for reference Myrtle has 0.467 on S1. Take away her natural DP gen buff and it sounds a lot less impressive.
@@platinumclaw kid named Texas:
@@MindayKalana What would her DP gen be without the 10%?
@@Rendact 0.35/s or 0.32/s. Even Vigil S2 has 0.4/s