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I like how the flavor of Gimli is he's mourning his friends but the optimal play pattern is to constantly have him make new friends then kill them immediately all at once
I think MARO said that the ring tempting you used to have a downside, but that made play-testers just not play the cards, so they sacrificed some lore for game playability.
@@PerhapsOOTMM that exactly what he said. They should have bit the bullet and made it have the drawback and the power but make it archenemy style so only 1 person can have the ring and if anyone wants it they gotta fight for it. Missed opportunity .
Boromir, Warden of the Tower is an instant Vintage staple in Mono White Initiative (which is a Tier 1 deck right now). The deck casts uncounterable 3 drops on turn 1 with ease and being able to shut off your opponents Moxen, Force of Will/Negation, Hollow Ones and Rootwallas on turn 1 is insanely good. There's a White Stompy deck in Legacy that's pretty similar to what people do in Vintage, it might see some play there as well.
Lol the only rootwalla I knew was basking… which also happens to be a three drop, wasn’t adding up though until I checked the others and saw a madness 0 one. Assuming that’s the one right?
It`s straight up broken in Vintage, it is a decent body aswell a 3\3 for is pretty good in vintage if it isn`t about cheating Atraxa`s, Griselbrands or Emrakuls into play. I think it`s pretty good in Legacy aswell, not as strong as in Vintage. It could also be a fine stax card for cedh
@@TRU3OGR3 Yes, look up Vintage HollowVine, it's a deck that uses Bazaar of Baghdad to discard multiple Rootwallas with the Madness cost of 0, then if you have any copies of Vengevine in the graveyard, you get to immediately bring them back. Hollow One also costs 0 mana after you discard 3 cards to Bazaar, so it would get countered by Boromir's ability as well.
So, interesting note with Gandalf. Making a creature your ring bearer makes it legendary so long as you have been tempted once. That means you can activate any creature's death trigger with Gandalf if you are willing to have it be your ringbearer.
The SECOND I read Gandalf, the White, I said "Oh man, Seth is going to love this and call it 'RE-DICULOUS!'" - thanks for never letting us down with your ETB/EXITTB love!
Flavor fail on the Nazgûl. The Witch-King is the leader of the Nazgûl, but he’s also one of the nine. You should only be able to have 8 cards named Nazgûl in your deck, plus the Witch-King. Otherwise you can get 10 Nazgûl in play, which is just wrong.
Not as much as you think. Characters show up from multiple moments in the timeline of the books. The Nazgul cards represent the nine dark riders from the early parts of the book. The card Witch-King of Angmar represents it's namesake character at a later point in time, when they ride their fell beasts. Same thing with Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White. Same character, different moments in time. But they could have added a line that the Witch-King of Angmar counts as a Nazgul, or something like that.
@@pingienator agreed, when I think of the nine Nazgul I think of the weathertop scene and the witch-king later became a "named character" if you want, I mean you can have multiple Frodos in a deck, I think its a cool idea with the nine Nazgul
Leyline binding is going to be insane with Saruman. Flash to cast on your opponent's turn to double up on the trigger, CMC 6 so you can copy pretty much anything, and its already just a good card.
58:46 sacrifice Boromir before damage, make the rest of your creatures indestructible until end of turn and get another combat phase. Seems pretty sweet
1-"Aragorn is every color but black" hahahahaha.hahahahahaah 2- I think Hew the entwood could be better than you give it credit for it the deck is built around it. If your deck is built around strong artifacts that generate more than 1 mana, like chromatic orrery. It could be pretty explosive. 3- legolas proc twice on a fighting effect, i think you are sleeping on this one. Actually good card. 4- You slightly under estimate the 2nd trail of crumbs. I think Samwise could revive the 80 card food deck in historic.
The Aragorn conversation get especially funny when you start talking about the R/G Strider version. Regardless of how ranger-ey he's feeling, the heir of Isildur is still white. 😂
This. I don't play modern but as far as I know the advantage of Llanowar Elves/Bird of Paradise is being a 1-mana dork not fixing your colors. Unless you play like triple green 3 drops or something, this is just as good as Llanowar Elves, with 1 more toughness AND the possibility to make your legends uncountereable. In Arena this has to be amazing in historic.
As someone who loves Tolkien, I haven't been excited for this set because, even though Lord of the Rings is kind of the grandfather of MTG and the start of modern Fantasy, it feels like it doesn't totally fit as an MTG set. There's battles and classical heroes in Lord of the Rings, but there's so much more. Maybe the biggest point of Lord of the Rings is that, while there is a hero king who is noble and good in a way that real world kings could only pretend to be, Aragorn the king isn't *the* hero, he's just *a* hero. The real heroes are Frodo and Sam, little people from the smallest, simplest backwater, with no skill as warriors. Those with power are, at best, side characters whose efforts help the real heroes complete their quest, but as often as not their own strength leads to their own downfall. In the end, victory comes through power being self-defeating and a dose of miraculous intervention. Flavor wise, this should be a set where 1/1s win the game for you through miraculous, unexpected means that wouldn't make for fun gameplay. So I worried that it would all be a gimmick that would have embarrassed Tolkien, and that prospect embarrassed me. Two of my biggest hobbies coming together in a way that missed the point of one or both wasn't something I was excited for. Now, I feel a touch of that reservation still, but as you observed, it feels like there's someone at Wizards who loves Tolkien and is doing everything they can to make it as good as possible. So I feel a lot better about the set, but I still feel some skepticism. And I know I'm not the first to say this, but "The Ring Tempts You" is the biggest flavor fail. That should be all downside, there should be no upside to being tempted by the ring. The whole mechanic should have been reworked so that the ring tempting someone was bad things happening to opponents who were tempted.
Witch-King of Angmar is slightly more fun than it sounds since it sticks around so long and can force a lot of sacrifices with the ring tempting you. Goad opponents that aren't ready to attack into making bad attacks that sacrifice their creatures, attack with witch-king, draw cards from Ring trigger to discard to give it indestructible, they either take 5 commander damage or they sacrifice creatures trying to block it. Pair with some sweet black removal and we're playing a fun control game!
I mainly do Arena Standard so the actual cards themselves don't do much for me. But, as you said, the passion behind them really shows through so I'm enjoying following the spoiler season. Also the art is definitely amazing.
I'm the Resident Boros Mage in my Magic friend groups, and my Commander of choice is Cadric, Soul Kindler, so with every new set release I'm searching for more tools to throw in the "Legends Matter" Cadric deck. From my perspective, this set has been a Home Run so far and we haven't even seen all the cards yet. Éowyn as a copiable, repeatable exile effect seems pretty strong to me. It's almost like another Mangara of Corondor, if a little toned back in terms of timing and range of targets. Gandalf the White can create insanely explosive turns - on the end step before you untap, flash in Gandalf, pay 2 and copy him twice, you now have 3 Gandalfs, so when you untap all your legend ETB triggers this turn will happen 4 times. Merry is a neat, cheap card draw engine. Cast and copy Merry, both have haste, swing in, you get 2 cards. Nice. Éomer can create infinite combat steps in a variety of ways, but one of those ways would be to play it with Rionya, Fire Dancer and a sac outlet, like Ashnod's/Phyrexian Altar. Each combat, Rionya copies Éomer, the new copy gets around the "triggers once each turn" clause, then sac something to do it all over again. Cadric really struggles when he's killed and sent back to the Command Zone to be recast repeatedly. Boromir provides an extra layer of protection to prevent that, even if there's less direct synergy to be had from copying him. All of this combined with other Boros cards that we've seen released in recent sets - Preston the Vanisher, Nahiri's Resolve, Orthion Hero of Lavabrink, Djeru and Hazoret, and it seems like there's a lot more new support for my playstyle specifically and I am really appreciating it. I'm still surprised that Cadric seems to have somewhat flown under the radar compared to several other Boros Legends released since.
I'm glad to see somebody so excited about Rohan at least, I'm jealous I HATE what they did to Rohan. It makes me sad and I simply cannot understand their reasoning for making the poor nation with no forges to equip their peasant soldiers into a W/R equipment deck. I HATE that with a burning passion, especially considering Gondor spams knights and doesn't play with equipment...... Like Gondor is SUPPOSED TO!😢
Hear me out. Run Gimli in a goblin edh or 60 card deck. There are plenty of expendable goblins and sac outlets. Thats also what they fought in Moria. As the goblins die, gimli gets stronger. Then you fight something big, perhaps a troll?? Would it be a good deck? No. On flavor? Yes.
Remember only craft singles for non-standard sets, the formats this will be usable in will only find use in one or two cards (or limited but you have to buy in to sealed or draft for that anyway).
Orcish Bowmasters is my personal favorite design of the shown cards. Runner up, are the Nazgûls, which I think is fun and really fitting as a 9-of design.
Sauron flavorwise fits commander to a T. Just because the mechanic of coming back after being destroyed and it taking more effort every time he comes back. And him being a kind of passive threat that grows stronger if you leave it alone fits perfectly. On top of that the ward legend thing, while also a reference to the way he's destroyed in the story(especially with the ring making things legendary), also make it so that in order to defeat him one way is you need to gather a group of heros that won't be able to take him down unscathed.
I'm happy for the people that will enjoy this set. I'm thinking is... Bad. I mean, the Warhammer 40K feel more "attuned" to the roots of Warhammer. In LotR, I feel Sauron is weak in any form. I expected some Nuclear Commander or something closer. The art is cool.
Even the 40k one was still kinda underpowered for the setting. It felt like you know, that the Silent King who rules over a race that is untold millions of years old, literally killed gods and fought in a conflict called the War in Heaven shoulda been more powerful than a 3/4 flyer for 5 mana that mills you three when you attack with him. Or that the Tyranids deck should have been more focused on you know the Tyranids instead of 70% of the deck being genestealer cult stuff?
How could we as community convince wizards to make this standard legal for at least a bit? I’m totally biased as a lotr fan but it almost seems as though quite a few people would be interested in seeing this happen also
With sauron you can run changelings, and since army is technically a creature type you can trigger him multiple times per turn. Combine that with instants or ways to give your spells flash and you can generate an insane amount of card advantage very quickly
I`m disappointed with the card that the Witch-King of Angmar got. I think he should have gotten a more pushed card personally. Having an ability related to the ring tempting them makes sense given the ring wraiths are always looking for Sauon`s ring. I think he should have been more pushed, he was the second in command after Sauron and controlled his Army during the war against Gondor. I think the Easterlings from LOTR could and should give us some desert synergy if WOTC includes them in the set.
I see soooo much potential throwing Storm of Saruman into my Adrix and Nev deck… All the shenanigans are gonna be perfect, from doubling up on Adrix and Nev or Esix triggers, to doubling and therefore quadrupling any other creature triggers… I’m ecstatic for that inclusion
I was looking for something interesting to do with Sidar Jabari of Zhalfir... 9 Nazgul seems like a winner. He helps you filter and dig for them, reanimate them to get more triggers there's knights charge to mass reanimate. Hakkaan can get them back. Cool stuff!
47:05 I've had this deck played against me at a modern fnm. It was a midrange aggro deck with aggressive creatures, then using Urza's Ruinous Blast to exile all non-legendary creatures to either clear the board for aggro, or get sweet midrange value with planeswakers like Gideon.
Legolas, Master Archer would make for a very fun Fight Matters deck. You get both triggers with every fight spell if you target him and once he is 4+ power, he would do a lot of work. Might not be super powerful but would be fun.
Correct me if I’m wrong but it looks sweet to hold up instant speed removal so that if someone tries to kill Saruman and only has one legend you kill it while Ward is on the stack the Ward will counter their kill spell.
Expert opinion here: On the eve of a battle, if you don't want Gandalf 2 be a spent liability, you MUST hide the shire-leaf! He looks high AF in that backdrop.
Gimili could, in theory, slot well into a vrondiss rage of ancients deck since it forces you so sac your tokens when they deal damage. May not be perfect but id be willing to test it out.
Storm of satumon is going to be absolutely NUTS in just about every cascade style deck for the value alone. Ex: jodah the unifier and twinning staff are on the battlefield with this enchantment and you cast a luxior, giadas gift knowing youll hit a mox amber, boom you just spent 1 mana to ramp 3 and get a legendary sword on the battlefield. You could also cascade into planeswalkers and get 3 on the battlefield with this same 3 card combo. Possibilities are endless within the right deck. Now yes it would likely be better in a standard cascade deck over jodah the unifier but its nuts.
Correct me if I’m wrong, Eomer, Marshal of Rohan can go infinite with Delina, Wild Mage and a sac outlet? Wondering if I should get it for my Delina deck
Hew the entwood could pop off in an artifact only deck running a bunch of mana rocks. Though it probably should have been "X equals twice the number of sacrificed lands"
Hey Seth, when you brought up Gandalf the White, the death trigger of legendary creatures works if you have been tempted by the ring making the creature legendary. Figured I'd send the tip if the ruling works out that way.
27:22 It combos rather nicely with Enlightened Tutor. 2-card 6-mana plus sac a land, flip a Blightsteel into play. I've seen worse things work in Commander.
Hew the Entwood is a playable combo in Modern for sure. I think the only problem is that it is too slow at 5 mana. I think you just put whatever artifacts you want on top of your library with brainstorm style effects to get it to work. It does die to counterspell though so, probably not a strong deck, but a playable deck.
One thing to note about last March of the ents is that most decks that are running Rishkars expertise are probably going to get the same or very similar card draw from both spells. Most big green fatties have equal power/toughness.
You know what would have made armies really cool is if they could block up to a number of creatures equal to their power (though maybe that's too potentially oppressive despite how much it would fit)
Eomer is close to good, but if they just block him and avoid killing anything else, then you don't get anything. Eowyn on the other hand seems great to deal with big creatures that are looking to stabilize against your aggro deck. THe only problem is that she doesn't work very well with anthem effects, also not exiling 3 power creatures that are fairly common could be an issue too.
Seth you are missing the real power of shadow of the enemy. If you hit a graveyard deck with this with even a midsized grave. They will be so salty they'll just concede to spite you from casting their stuff
I can't find if someone mention this, but every player can only have one ring-bearer at a time. The ring also keeps it's levels as you switch ring-bearers
Aragorn has more colours than Saruman which is a pretty big spoiler. To be honest, I never trusted Aragorn- came out of a swamp with no real proof of identity and when Tolkein publishes the next episode you'll all see I was right.
It's a build around card, but I think it have potential. If most of your card are artifact that generate more than 1 mana, it could win you the game of the spot. (chromatic orrery, guilded lotus, hedron, paradox engine, maybe nyx lotus?) and strong artifact creatures maybe (golos, prototypes).. If you play historic on MTGA don't forget forsaken crossroad which untap AFTER entering the field if you are second player. I think i have a deck there which is not much "risky" at all. As long as you ramp to 5 mana (mind stone, coldsteel heart, palladium myr) quick enough.
Orcish Bowmasters is just black Faerie Mastermind in Legacy. Brainstorm, flash in, 2 damage and a 2/2. Pretty darn good value. Probably not quite as good but damn close
ok I fucking love the Nazgul card. 'Cause like, there are nine of them. So you can have Nine of them. That is such a simple flavor win, I'm sad I didn't think of it myself.
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I like how the flavor of Gimli is he's mourning his friends but the optimal play pattern is to constantly have him make new friends then kill them immediately all at once
POV: You’re an writer looking to put that sweet sweet angst into your story.
That still only counts as one!
@@Buchaus incorrect
It’s so weird that the ring tempting you has no downside, because the rest of the set is a home run flavor wise.
The set isn't finished being spoiled yet, I have a feeling that there will be a few bullets for temptation decks
I think MARO said that the ring tempting you used to have a downside, but that made play-testers just not play the cards, so they sacrificed some lore for game playability.
@@PerhapsOOTMM yeah but with the ring tempting you being utter garbage, people aint gonna play it outside of those chasing flavor
@@PerhapsOOTMM that exactly what he said. They should have bit the bullet and made it have the drawback and the power but make it archenemy style so only 1 person can have the ring and if anyone wants it they gotta fight for it. Missed opportunity .
The downside is keeping track of what the mechanic actually does.
Boromir goes infinite with Ratadrabik (and a blood artist) because the ring makes the token legendary
That's super cool. I didn't expect The Ring turning things legendary to really matter, but seems like a fun Commander deck at least.
@@MTGGoldfish not only Boromir, but also Gollum, Samwise, and 9 Nazgûl. Perhaps a modern against the odds? 🤔
Boromir, Warden of the Tower is an instant Vintage staple in Mono White Initiative (which is a Tier 1 deck right now). The deck casts uncounterable 3 drops on turn 1 with ease and being able to shut off your opponents Moxen, Force of Will/Negation, Hollow Ones and Rootwallas on turn 1 is insanely good. There's a White Stompy deck in Legacy that's pretty similar to what people do in Vintage, it might see some play there as well.
Lol the only rootwalla I knew was basking… which also happens to be a three drop, wasn’t adding up though until I checked the others and saw a madness 0 one. Assuming that’s the one right?
It`s straight up broken in Vintage, it is a decent body aswell a 3\3 for is pretty good in vintage if it isn`t about cheating Atraxa`s, Griselbrands or Emrakuls into play. I think it`s pretty good in Legacy aswell, not as strong as in Vintage. It could also be a fine stax card for cedh
@@TRU3OGR3 Yes, look up Vintage HollowVine, it's a deck that uses Bazaar of Baghdad to discard multiple Rootwallas with the Madness cost of 0, then if you have any copies of Vengevine in the graveyard, you get to immediately bring them back. Hollow One also costs 0 mana after you discard 3 cards to Bazaar, so it would get countered by Boromir's ability as well.
I like the flavour on Saurons last ability- because of the ring, he loses his hand and draws a card for each finger he has left...
So, interesting note with Gandalf. Making a creature your ring bearer makes it legendary so long as you have been tempted once. That means you can activate any creature's death trigger with Gandalf if you are willing to have it be your ringbearer.
The SECOND I read Gandalf, the White, I said "Oh man, Seth is going to love this and call it 'RE-DICULOUS!'" - thanks for never letting us down with your ETB/EXITTB love!
Flavor fail on the Nazgûl. The Witch-King is the leader of the Nazgûl, but he’s also one of the nine. You should only be able to have 8 cards named Nazgûl in your deck, plus the Witch-King. Otherwise you can get 10 Nazgûl in play, which is just wrong.
Agreed. That said, you can always cut the one with your least favorite art to make it work flavor-wise in a deck
Canceled my preorder because of this.
Not as much as you think. Characters show up from multiple moments in the timeline of the books. The Nazgul cards represent the nine dark riders from the early parts of the book. The card Witch-King of Angmar represents it's namesake character at a later point in time, when they ride their fell beasts. Same thing with Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White. Same character, different moments in time. But they could have added a line that the Witch-King of Angmar counts as a Nazgul, or something like that.
@@pingienator agreed, when I think of the nine Nazgul I think of the weathertop scene and the witch-king later became a "named character" if you want, I mean you can have multiple Frodos in a deck, I think its a cool idea with the nine Nazgul
Blatant Khamûl the Easterling erasure
The ability to have nine Nazgûl and there artwork is great
Gotta catch 'em all!
I love them too. makes me wish they were legal in standard.
Leyline binding is going to be insane with Saruman. Flash to cast on your opponent's turn to double up on the trigger, CMC 6 so you can copy pretty much anything, and its already just a good card.
58:46 sacrifice Boromir before damage, make the rest of your creatures indestructible until end of turn and get another combat phase. Seems pretty sweet
1-"Aragorn is every color but black" hahahahaha.hahahahahaah
2- I think Hew the entwood could be better than you give it credit for it the deck is built around it. If your deck is built around strong artifacts that generate more than 1 mana, like chromatic orrery. It could be pretty explosive.
3- legolas proc twice on a fighting effect, i think you are sleeping on this one. Actually good card.
4- You slightly under estimate the 2nd trail of crumbs. I think Samwise could revive the 80 card food deck in historic.
The Aragorn conversation get especially funny when you start talking about the R/G Strider version. Regardless of how ranger-ey he's feeling, the heir of Isildur is still white. 😂
Bro what’s the fucking deal with them making all the humans black? Guess wizards is really wanting to go woke and broke at the same time.
Eowyn and Merry working well together isn't a coincidence, it's a big flavour win.
Rohan is playing W/R equipment and Gondor spams knights.
It's about as big a flavor fail as they could have possibly acheived.
Delighted Halfling looks absolutely crazy tbh
No more will my Atraxa get countered
This. I don't play modern but as far as I know the advantage of Llanowar Elves/Bird of Paradise is being a 1-mana dork not fixing your colors. Unless you play like triple green 3 drops or something, this is just as good as Llanowar Elves, with 1 more toughness AND the possibility to make your legends uncountereable.
In Arena this has to be amazing in historic.
You're wrong Seth, Aragorn is a 5 Color commander.
No he is mono black now..
As someone who loves Tolkien, I haven't been excited for this set because, even though Lord of the Rings is kind of the grandfather of MTG and the start of modern Fantasy, it feels like it doesn't totally fit as an MTG set. There's battles and classical heroes in Lord of the Rings, but there's so much more. Maybe the biggest point of Lord of the Rings is that, while there is a hero king who is noble and good in a way that real world kings could only pretend to be, Aragorn the king isn't *the* hero, he's just *a* hero. The real heroes are Frodo and Sam, little people from the smallest, simplest backwater, with no skill as warriors. Those with power are, at best, side characters whose efforts help the real heroes complete their quest, but as often as not their own strength leads to their own downfall. In the end, victory comes through power being self-defeating and a dose of miraculous intervention. Flavor wise, this should be a set where 1/1s win the game for you through miraculous, unexpected means that wouldn't make for fun gameplay. So I worried that it would all be a gimmick that would have embarrassed Tolkien, and that prospect embarrassed me. Two of my biggest hobbies coming together in a way that missed the point of one or both wasn't something I was excited for. Now, I feel a touch of that reservation still, but as you observed, it feels like there's someone at Wizards who loves Tolkien and is doing everything they can to make it as good as possible. So I feel a lot better about the set, but I still feel some skepticism.
And I know I'm not the first to say this, but "The Ring Tempts You" is the biggest flavor fail. That should be all downside, there should be no upside to being tempted by the ring. The whole mechanic should have been reworked so that the ring tempting someone was bad things happening to opponents who were tempted.
Witch-King of Angmar is slightly more fun than it sounds since it sticks around so long and can force a lot of sacrifices with the ring tempting you. Goad opponents that aren't ready to attack into making bad attacks that sacrifice their creatures, attack with witch-king, draw cards from Ring trigger to discard to give it indestructible, they either take 5 commander damage or they sacrifice creatures trying to block it. Pair with some sweet black removal and we're playing a fun control game!
Black merry. Cool, said no one
i like how Saffron said to toss the Gimli card into some decks. Gimli would approve: "Toss me!"
I mainly do Arena Standard so the actual cards themselves don't do much for me. But, as you said, the passion behind them really shows through so I'm enjoying following the spoiler season. Also the art is definitely amazing.
The art really ks great. Shame the flavor is so bad.
Orcish Bowmaster. will pre-order 4 of those of the bat.
That thing is nasty. Definatly a Legacy playable card.
The fact it does damage and makes a body is really good! Do you think the price will spike after release?
@@TheMadManHimself I dunno, but I think it will be a solid priced card.
@@TheMadManHimself it's allready up to 45 bucks
I'm the Resident Boros Mage in my Magic friend groups, and my Commander of choice is Cadric, Soul Kindler, so with every new set release I'm searching for more tools to throw in the "Legends Matter" Cadric deck. From my perspective, this set has been a Home Run so far and we haven't even seen all the cards yet.
Éowyn as a copiable, repeatable exile effect seems pretty strong to me. It's almost like another Mangara of Corondor, if a little toned back in terms of timing and range of targets.
Gandalf the White can create insanely explosive turns - on the end step before you untap, flash in Gandalf, pay 2 and copy him twice, you now have 3 Gandalfs, so when you untap all your legend ETB triggers this turn will happen 4 times.
Merry is a neat, cheap card draw engine. Cast and copy Merry, both have haste, swing in, you get 2 cards. Nice.
Éomer can create infinite combat steps in a variety of ways, but one of those ways would be to play it with Rionya, Fire Dancer and a sac outlet, like Ashnod's/Phyrexian Altar. Each combat, Rionya copies Éomer, the new copy gets around the "triggers once each turn" clause, then sac something to do it all over again.
Cadric really struggles when he's killed and sent back to the Command Zone to be recast repeatedly. Boromir provides an extra layer of protection to prevent that, even if there's less direct synergy to be had from copying him.
All of this combined with other Boros cards that we've seen released in recent sets - Preston the Vanisher, Nahiri's Resolve, Orthion Hero of Lavabrink, Djeru and Hazoret, and it seems like there's a lot more new support for my playstyle specifically and I am really appreciating it. I'm still surprised that Cadric seems to have somewhat flown under the radar compared to several other Boros Legends released since.
I'm glad to see somebody so excited about Rohan at least, I'm jealous I HATE what they did to Rohan. It makes me sad and I simply cannot understand their reasoning for making the poor nation with no forges to equip their peasant soldiers into a W/R equipment deck. I HATE that with a burning passion, especially considering Gondor spams knights and doesn't play with equipment...... Like Gondor is SUPPOSED TO!😢
Hear me out. Run Gimli in a goblin edh or 60 card deck. There are plenty of expendable goblins and sac outlets. Thats also what they fought in Moria. As the goblins die, gimli gets stronger. Then you fight something big, perhaps a troll?? Would it be a good deck? No. On flavor? Yes.
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”
Wotc is ruining that which we love.
so LOTR is being corrupted and ruined by… having a few of its characters be not white? just want to see if i’m hearing you correctly
I'm not gonna lie, at this point I believe Seth just straight up mispronounced the words on purpose
Let him cook. He's a high level troll.
@@enmanuelrondon9700 I know lol, it just something in me just went, it's arAgorn there is an A there man jajaja
He's been doing it for years
@@yairgomez9090 I know, but this is the only time that it kind of just stood out way too much jajaj, at least for me lol
It always does, mission complete I Guess
Thank you for not knowing how to pronounce any of the names. I will take pleasure in showing this to my LOTR friends
He keeps swapping the vowels in the names, minas, he says manis. Saruman, he says suraman.
He just has trouble with vowels all the time in general
Remember only craft singles for non-standard sets, the formats this will be usable in will only find use in one or two cards (or limited but you have to buy in to sealed or draft for that anyway).
Orcish Bowmasters is my personal favorite design of the shown cards. Runner up, are the Nazgûls, which I think is fun and really fitting as a 9-of design.
Spoiler? You didn't spoil anything, people could already smell the shit.
Sauron flavorwise fits commander to a T. Just because the mechanic of coming back after being destroyed and it taking more effort every time he comes back. And him being a kind of passive threat that grows stronger if you leave it alone fits perfectly. On top of that the ward legend thing, while also a reference to the way he's destroyed in the story(especially with the ring making things legendary), also make it so that in order to defeat him one way is you need to gather a group of heros that won't be able to take him down unscathed.
"When Fblthp dies you get its death tigger trice" was my favorite part of the video for some reason.
The showcase art of Pippin touching the orb and touching the mind of Sauron is so great!
When did Aragorn turn black?
The woke mobsters got to him.
I'm happy for the people that will enjoy this set.
I'm thinking is... Bad. I mean, the Warhammer 40K feel more "attuned" to the roots of Warhammer. In LotR, I feel Sauron is weak in any form. I expected some Nuclear Commander or something closer. The art is cool.
Even the 40k one was still kinda underpowered for the setting. It felt like you know, that the Silent King who rules over a race that is untold millions of years old, literally killed gods and fought in a conflict called the War in Heaven shoulda been more powerful than a 3/4 flyer for 5 mana that mills you three when you attack with him. Or that the Tyranids deck should have been more focused on you know the Tyranids instead of 70% of the deck being genestealer cult stuff?
Bill the pony!? Best card ever printed
Nah, not spending a penny on this.
Boromir suffers from the same nonbo with Thalia as Lavinia since they always come in the same decks. Thalia turns off the hate on Boromir.
That's a good point. Doesn't work well with Thalia's tax, that's for sure.
Now more than ever, Seth's pronunciations are worth the price of admission.
Some of the hobbits being food focused is truly a chefs kiss flavor wise. (Insert more food puns here)
8:50 “you get its death tigger trice.” *slow clap*
"Aragorn, every color but black" 😂😂😂
But he ended racism. So brave
LOTR fan here. While there are some clunky lore misses because of mechanics, I think this set is super flavorful and I’m hyped to play it!
Rohan being abused like this hurts my soul.😢
Foil versions of The Path of the Dead will be my #1 all time pick for Cavern of Souls, and the same for Morgul-Knife and Shadowspear.
How could we as community convince wizards to make this standard legal for at least a bit? I’m totally biased as a lotr fan but it almost seems as though quite a few people would be interested in seeing this happen also
With sauron you can run changelings, and since army is technically a creature type you can trigger him multiple times per turn. Combine that with instants or ways to give your spells flash and you can generate an insane amount of card advantage very quickly
I`m disappointed with the card that the Witch-King of Angmar got.
I think he should have gotten a more pushed card personally. Having an ability related to the ring tempting them makes sense given the ring wraiths are always looking for Sauon`s ring. I think he should have been more pushed, he was the second in command after Sauron and controlled his Army during the war against Gondor.
I think the Easterlings from LOTR could and should give us some desert synergy if WOTC includes them in the set.
I see soooo much potential throwing Storm of Saruman into my Adrix and Nev deck… All the shenanigans are gonna be perfect, from doubling up on Adrix and Nev or Esix triggers, to doubling and therefore quadrupling any other creature triggers… I’m ecstatic for that inclusion
I was looking for something interesting to do with Sidar Jabari of Zhalfir... 9 Nazgul seems like a winner. He helps you filter and dig for them, reanimate them to get more triggers there's knights charge to mass reanimate. Hakkaan can get them back. Cool stuff!
For Ron, the true kingdom of men!
Not if Sir-a-mon has anything to say about it!
I'm brewing the Witch-king Nazgul commander deck and it seems sweet :3
It does look super fun!
Samwise Gangee and Cauldron Familiar might pair well together. Just swap the oven with any free sack outlet.
Where Aragorn is gonna end up: Domain zoo. Idk how many but it’s making it In there
47:05 I've had this deck played against me at a modern fnm. It was a midrange aggro deck with aggressive creatures, then using Urza's Ruinous Blast to exile all non-legendary creatures to either clear the board for aggro, or get sweet midrange value with planeswakers like Gideon.
Legolas, Master Archer would make for a very fun Fight Matters deck. You get both triggers with every fight spell if you target him and once he is 4+ power, he would do a lot of work. Might not be super powerful but would be fun.
Correct me if I’m wrong but it looks sweet to hold up instant speed removal so that if someone tries to kill Saruman and only has one legend you kill it while Ward is on the stack the Ward will counter their kill spell.
It actually warms my heart to see Seth mellowing on lotr a little bit.
Always appreciate these spoiler videos. Than you!
Thanks!
Expert opinion here: On the eve of a battle, if you don't want Gandalf 2 be a spent liability, you MUST hide the shire-leaf! He looks high AF in that backdrop.
Aragon might make for an interesting commander.
Just a great 4 color good stuff with lots of multi colored spells and cheap casts. If I pull it I will build it :)
Gimili could, in theory, slot well into a vrondiss rage of ancients deck since it forces you so sac your tokens when they deal damage. May not be perfect but id be willing to test it out.
I love how there are 9 different arts for the Nazgûl that’s great flavor
The Ring: Exists
How strong do we want to make Ragavan?
Answer: Yes
Storm of satumon is going to be absolutely NUTS in just about every cascade style deck for the value alone. Ex: jodah the unifier and twinning staff are on the battlefield with this enchantment and you cast a luxior, giadas gift knowing youll hit a mox amber, boom you just spent 1 mana to ramp 3 and get a legendary sword on the battlefield. You could also cascade into planeswalkers and get 3 on the battlefield with this same 3 card combo. Possibilities are endless within the right deck. Now yes it would likely be better in a standard cascade deck over jodah the unifier but its nuts.
Correct me if I’m wrong, Eomer, Marshal of Rohan can go infinite with Delina, Wild Mage and a sac outlet? Wondering if I should get it for my Delina deck
Sauron is good with casualty and sacrifice as well. In general amass was best as sac fodder because a creature is worth more than a counter.
Hew the entwood could pop off in an artifact only deck running a bunch of mana rocks. Though it probably should have been "X equals twice the number of sacrificed lands"
Pipen can protect from solitude or path while not causing white auras to fall off. Maybe good for UW Auras...
Hey Seth, when you brought up Gandalf the White, the death trigger of legendary creatures works if you have been tempted by the ring making the creature legendary. Figured I'd send the tip if the ruling works out that way.
With Eomer, Marshal of Rohan you could sacrifice a creature during combat to trigger the extra attack phase. Sneaky line against control decks
4:38 Can't wait to scry 2 before I search my deck for a Forest and shuffle :D
27:22 It combos rather nicely with Enlightened Tutor. 2-card 6-mana plus sac a land, flip a Blightsteel into play. I've seen worse things work in Commander.
Yeah, the best use is probably to tutor a big artifact to the top of your deck and sac a single land to put it into play.
Hew the Entwood is a playable combo in Modern for sure. I think the only problem is that it is too slow at 5 mana. I think you just put whatever artifacts you want on top of your library with brainstorm style effects to get it to work. It does die to counterspell though so, probably not a strong deck, but a playable deck.
Brainstone fits perfectly, for example
One thing to note about last March of the ents is that most decks that are running Rishkars expertise are probably going to get the same or very similar card draw from both spells. Most big green fatties have equal power/toughness.
You know what would have made armies really cool is if they could block up to a number of creatures equal to their power (though maybe that's too potentially oppressive despite how much it would fit)
Last March of the ents is cool, could see it as a replacement/sideboard for Tooth and Nail/Genesis Wave
Eomer is close to good, but if they just block him and avoid killing anything else, then you don't get anything.
Eowyn on the other hand seems great to deal with big creatures that are looking to stabilize against your aggro deck. THe only problem is that she doesn't work very well with anthem effects, also not exiling 3 power creatures that are fairly common could be an issue too.
Came for the pronunciations and they were on point as expected 😂
Seth you are missing the real power of shadow of the enemy. If you hit a graveyard deck with this with even a midsized grave. They will be so salty they'll just concede to spite you from casting their stuff
Wasn't the witch king one of the nine nazgul though? So it's a little weird to play him plus 9 nazgul but I guess he isn't named until book 2 right?
Boromir, Warden of the Tower, not to be confused with Bolsimir, Lover of Sheep
A bit odd race-swapping characters
Especially obnoxious when people claim it's a "reimagining".
Just make a set with African and Caribbean lore, Anansi, Queen of Sheba, etc
Storm of Saruman seems like a slam dunk in Imoti! Play Storm, cascade off it, then copy whatever you cascade into? Hahaha
I can't find if someone mention this, but every player can only have one ring-bearer at a time. The ring also keeps it's levels as you switch ring-bearers
Ah, yes our favorite characters: Homer, Ew-in, R-gorn, etc.
Aragorn has more colours than Saruman which is a pretty big spoiler. To be honest, I never trusted Aragorn- came out of a swamp with no real proof of identity and when Tolkein publishes the next episode you'll all see I was right.
Aragorn is a secret follower of Morgoth, it was going to be revealed in Episode 4.
Gandolf and Elesh Norn are going to be all stars in the 99 of decks like Roon. I plan on playing it in the 99 of Abdel Adrian and Candlekeep Sage.
I love how the respected the 9 Nazgûl the human kings that have fallen to there rings
Even wizards agrees chopping down the ents forest was a terrible idea
Hew of Entwood being a very risky card...kinda works great flavorwise. It was a hugely risky move for Saruman...and it did not pan out well for him.
It's a build around card, but I think it have potential. If most of your card are artifact that generate more than 1 mana, it could win you the game of the spot. (chromatic orrery, guilded lotus, hedron, paradox engine, maybe nyx lotus?) and strong artifact creatures maybe (golos, prototypes).. If you play historic on MTGA don't forget forsaken crossroad which untap AFTER entering the field if you are second player.
I think i have a deck there which is not much "risky" at all. As long as you ramp to 5 mana (mind stone, coldsteel heart, palladium myr) quick enough.
Orcish Bowmasters is just black Faerie Mastermind in Legacy. Brainstorm, flash in, 2 damage and a 2/2. Pretty darn good value. Probably not quite as good but damn close
I would point out, seth and crim dont like the LOTR movies...lol
ok I fucking love the Nazgul card. 'Cause like, there are nine of them. So you can have Nine of them. That is such a simple flavor win, I'm sad I didn't think of it myself.
Saruman will ride alongside Captain N'ghathrod. It'll be a wild journey. Or i'll take Sen Triplets because it's easier. Who knows
Guys...."We get that Death Tigger Trice." should be on some Goldfish Merch
I mean this with no snark at all, but Quandrix cultivator giving you a scry 2 into an etb that makes you shuffle night be a bit of a nombo
Witch King/Nazghul Oathbreaker with Shadow of the Enemy would be a great Flavor deck
The set looks great. My favorite card is Nazgul.
That Aragorn is actually five colors.
Sorry, not sorry.