Ben Shapiro's Conservative Take on Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2017
- Ben Shapiro's take on the 1971 Movie Charlie and the Chocolate Factory !
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Is it just my computer, or does the sound stop being synced with the visual during the movie trailer?
Rebecca happened to me as well
It's the video not your computer
Do people still fall for this "delete system32" meme? Does it even work on modern windows machines?
SebastianMisch I deleted on a couple of computers at school a year or two back, not sure if people fall for it though.
I did, it now wha-
He just made me think of this movie In a completely different light.
It's just incredible how a 2 minute analysis from a smart person can change your view of that thing.
He and Jordan Peterson also changed my views on Pinocchio, Frozen, Peter Pan, Harry Potter 2, and Sleeping Beauty, for all of their psychological and moral implications.
Brandon Young, i thought it was just a movie about aborting unwanted children,
I don't know about you but, I kind of already knew that. Let me explain, have you ever seen at add on TV and said to yourself something like "i could of done that", I think most of us noticed the things Ben pointed out (like Joe stealing the drinks). However, like those products, what counts is not that you had the idea or even the know how to implement the idea,but you are the first one to make it and/or do it.
You could say that I had all the puzzle pieces but never bothered to put them together.
+ian hock
really ... and what may I ask brought you to that conclusion? If I had to make a guess I would say that the kids survive in the book, if that was the case (I didn't read the book) then that would not excuse the film since I'm sure Ben and I are/were not the only people that saw the film, did not read the book, and were left with that impression. However if your evidence is actually something else besides some assumptions you might of made, please let me know.
(to clarify, I am simply asking out of curiosity and do not mean to implied malice)
What if Ben Shapiro made a killing off of breaking down movies politically
yes
It’d be like the FemFreq, but with...
I'm afraid if he would he would do it one sidedly and very thin for him to discuss films I would say.
If he were to identify certain themes in the films and then suggest further examples of said themes throughout either other forms of art and history.
I remember when I was a kid, I used to wonder how the grandpa could walk so well because he wasn't able to walk for most of his life. I thought his legs would be too weak to dance.
Tyler Amon Think of the bed sores and atrophied muscles! He should've stumbled about!
If you've actually read the novel or watched the Gene Wilder movie, you'll know that it's all exaggerated allegory. Grandpa Joe being supposedly "bedridden" is nothing more than Dahl making it clear that he's past his prime and has essentially outlived his usefulness to society. When he sees the chance (Charlie finding the golden ticket) to give his life meaning once more, he takes it and casts all doubts aside of his own ability. His miraculously fast recovery is nothing more than stage drama. It's more akin to throwing off a sullen mood for the chance to get yourself some nachos, than any political commentary. Dahl was not a political author. He wrote about social issues, but he deliberately left any political commentary to an absolute minimum in his work.
THe message with regard to Grandpa Hoe is basically: If you can find a purpose, you can work towards accomplishing it.
After all, Grandpa Joe doesn't recover immediately. He takes a while to get into his stride.
Dylan Wight Check the second to last time you wrote "Grandpa Joe" 😂😂😂.
The four bratty children don't actually die. In the book, they are all alive at the end (though they're not in very good shape), and this movie makes it so ambiguous that I never just assumed they died as a kid. I always thought it was up to interpretation (even before I knew the term 'interpretation'). Other than that, Ben Shapiro is spot-on. I always did also wonder what the grandparents were doing if they were still so mobile. Shouldn't they have been insanely bored all day?
well, I don't think the incinerator was walking around looking for people to eat up. if that was the case, it'd be an entirely different tale
well they've got a good sporting chance don't they?
Although it was hard to tell how much Wonka was testing them and how much he was just screwing with them . . . or if Wonka himself was always aware of the difference.
eh, I sort of preferred the ambiguity, but it works either way.
In the film, Charlie asks Wonka about what happened to the others and Wonka tells him "They'll be back to their terrible selves." There's no ambiguity, Wonka didn't kill them off.
Even as a child, I saw and was horrified by the 4 grandparents who just sat in bed while that poor mother worked her ass off to support the 6 of them. I also noticed how the MOMENT Grandpa Joe saw something he wanted to get out of bed for, he was out in a heartbeat. (Side note, how horrible must that bed smell after 4 layabouts not moving there for 20 years?)
MasterFhyl bullshit liar....
What exactly are you calling bullshit on? That a child could have such insight?
I was raised by a single mother. I was also highly intelligent as a child (still am as an adult for the record) I identified like hell with Charlie as a kid, and compared his mother to my mother. I most certainly could not imagine my mother (who worked her ass of at MULTIPLE jobs so that while we were still poor, I was still looked after... when it was just the two of us) ALSO having to also look after 4 deadbeat grandparents, who while perfectly capable of working, as Grandpa Joe himself proving by hopping out of bed and dancing the second he wanted something, chose to lay in bed all day for literally 20 years. So yeah, it was something I noticed, and was bothered by as a child.
Here i thought the best part about ben shapiro was hearing him tear apart libtards, its actually hearing him talk about his kids. Got a lot of respect for Ben, keep up the good work =)
"she's got my sense of humor" when referencing throwing a kid down the shute for throwing a tantrum. Classic.
Libtards™
Lomak ^
These one liner desperate attempts to blow shit out of proportion get stale to anyone else? It's always some bland broad statement without even a single objective fact to support, such as a quote or well, pretty much anything of substance.
Keep on preaching to yourself though friend, show how woke u are bro. =)
>literally uses libtards as a real epithet
>Rick and Morty profile pic
>wants to engage in real political discourse
I lol'd
If you want to draw my comment about ben and his kids as some huge political statement then go ahead. More likely it is that libtards are so libtarded it's just second nature to refer to them as libtards any time they need mentioning. I mean shit look at that essay that other libtard wrote that thinks I'm going to take my time to read it.
I Lol'd too =)
Roald Dahl, the original writer, had sort of a theme of bad parental figures.
Ry He was the best writer of children's books, ever!
I only learned recently that he had started a third Charlie book- a sequel to "Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator" (which was not nearly as good as Charlie and the Chocolate Factory).
Dahl wrote one chapter of "Charlie in the White House" before he died.
2:39: "Don't worry she thinks it's hilarious because she has my sense of humor". #THUGINTRAINING
It's WILLY WONKA'S Chocolate Factory, not Charlie's. Ben even says in the video that he "isn't talking about the dumb Johnny Depp" version
Well seen. My bad.
charlie and the chocolate factory was the name of the book both movies where based on
Matthew Lee the reason the title was changed from the book was because "Charlie" was American soldier's nickname for the North Vietnamese. The studio didn't want to alienate a bunch of vets and their kids.
The irony being that Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is more a movie about Charlie and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is more a movie about Willy Wonka.
Alex Stamp - I thought it was just because Willy Wonka was the whimsical, strange, and interesting part of the story, so they named the movie after him. Do you have a citation for the Vietnam connection? If what you said is true, that is pretty interesting.
"Mad chocolateer invites children to factory, kills them off one by one" lol I always hear people say that the kids were murdered or died horrible deaths and stuff like that when people talk about Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, but... am I the only person on earth who noticed that Wonka tells Charlie that the other kids will be fine, "restored to their normal terrible selves and maybe a little wiser for the wear"?
Yes I think people just love creepy theories too much
People like to ignore that part
Whether you're conservative or liberal, we can all agree on one thing
The reboot sucked
Nathan Biller god that movie was demented...just creepy...not interesting or quirky like the original but just how weird johhny deep make us feel
Nathan Biller Jack Sparrow doesn't belong in a chocolate factory 😳.
I've never even bothered to watch the Depp version after reading a brief description of the plot.
Jonquil Gemstone aye, but he definately belonged in fear and loathing in los Vegas
I thought the Tim Burton Re adaption was pretty good. Willy Wonka wasn't as joyful and jolly like he's meant to be but hey, it's pretty good and sticks to the book.
So, Grandpa Joe would have loved Obama.
Solaceboy joe Biden obviously. Grandpa joe is Joe Biden.
Lmao
the moral of the story is industrial espionage is bad
“The villainy doesn’t end there, that’s not where the villainy ends” did anyone else laugh at that?
I've been saying this for the longest time. Another thing that happened at the end was when willy wonka told Charlie that he was giving Charlie the factory and that Charlie can move in immediately, grandpa Joe chimes and and says, "and me?" Always worried about himself and no one else lol
I watched the 1971 movie in first grade when we read the book. Ever since then, I've enjoyed the movie and catch myself humming the songs at work and home.
I am a teacher and every year I read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory by Roald Dahl (yes, it was a book before it was a film!) to my students. Every time I read it, I pick up on more and more of the author's conservative viewpoints, which I love. I agree with Mr. Shapiro's analysis, although I will say that Grandpa Joe is less of a "villain" in the book than he is in the movie. It is a GREAT book.
I’m a teacher too......and the book is better than either of the movies made.
@@SuperEdge67 the book is good but willy Wonka and the chocolate factory is one of my favorite childhood movies loved it since I was 7 In 1991 when i first saw it on tv huge fan of this movie ☻
Shapiro, is starting to sound like a name that could be given to a Mortal Kombat hero character type.
SHAPIRO WINS
He either brutalizes or turns you into a crying baby.
SgtPepper bruh they should make a character based off if ben
SgtPepper SAVAGE SHAPIRO STRIKE!
Well now we need to just start adding the "FATALITY" bit to the videos of him destroying his opponents in debates.
He’d pretty much win any round with Phoenix Wright as well!😂
Isn't the actor who played Charlies now veterinarian?
Jory Adamson Yes he is. From what I've read, this movie was his one and only role.
@@mainstreetsaint36 smart guy. Got out of Hollywood while he could!
Never understood why I didn't like Grandpa Joe following Charlie around the whole film, now I remember.
Not to mention Grandpa Joe spent money each month or week (I forgot how often) on his chewing tobacco😡
Actually, pipe tobacco.
hahaha very good analysis
it's interesting though how the grandfather acts like a typical sjw yet while watching the movie you don't really notice it, yet in today's shows/movies it's so forced and cringy that you can't even watch it
He's actually discussing "Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory", not "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory".
Rob Young what's interesting about this movie and the remake is whom the center of the film is for each version.
In, Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, is the focus is Charlie Bucket; Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, the focus is Willie Wonka.
The fact that Ben's on the verge of laughing through most of this, is proof he's mostly being sarcastic. Grandpa Joe is motivated to walk again when Charlie says he wishes Joe could accompany him to the factory. Also, compared to the other kids Charlie was almost a saint. He made one mistake, and the fear of almost dying taught him his lesson. Joe got mad at Mr. Wonka because he believed Charlie deserved the prize after all his family had been through...but the truth is Mr. Wonka owed nothing to anyone. The golden tickets were hidden in the hope that someone worthy to inherit Mr. Wonka's legacy would find them, but there were no guarantees. Charlie shows his worth by refusing to become like the others, who had already made up their minds to betray Mr. Wonka at the earliest opportunity. He gets the reward not because he deserves it, but because his choice showed Mr. Wonka that in spite of his one failure, Charlie's heart was in the right place.
Moviefan2k4 if you look, Wonka isn't so much scolding Charlie as he is Grandpa Joe. I believe that he figured out Grandpa Joe was steering Charlie the wrong way. Just look at whom Wonka is keeping eye-contact with through the whole rant.
"You lose! Good day, sir!" Wonka wouldn't say this to a young lad; no one would. Most would say, young man, or his first name.
Timothy Dalbeck
That's partly true, but in a behind the scenes I learned that it was also because Wilder just could not bring himself to yell in a child's face.
Ryan Schneider either way, it adds a bit of nuance to Gene's character in the movie. Even back then a rarity in a film like this.
True WingChun there’s a quick shot in the movie that shows chamber pots under the grandparents’ bed.
This was one of the most favorite movies of my childhood (had my very own copy on vhs). Thanks for bringing back memories!
An ad about League of Leaders started playing and I completely forgot about the video
Just a quick fyi: Peter Ostrum (Charlie Bucket) never did another movie. He is a veterinarian near Lowville ny.
Never really thought of that.
One of my favorite films. The only thing I like about the remake are the Oompla-Loompas. Burton was oddly more perverse in his version, but less subversive and intelligent. There are a lot secret jokes in this film including the "musical key" being MOZART, not Rachmaninoff. Nobody explains this in the movie, and there's a LOT of quotes and references in this.
Crazy how much our parent's generation had such an influence on myself and siblings. First day this when I was 5 in 92. Still love it
If this guy was my dad, I’d be okay with my mom divorcing him.
You will never see a movie with such a huge amount to of charm made today. Everything today is the exact same and thats why I cherish old movies like this.
I always thought that grandpa bedroom scene was a bit odd... Now it makes perfect sense.
I dreamt of finding a golden ticket every time I opened a chocolate bar.
Same. I always wondered if Willy Wonka was real as a kid and wondered if he’d look like Gene Wilder or Johnny Depp or a Weasley Twin
While this could be said about the movie, the book is slightly different, for one the "fizzy lifting drink" is a film only, and at the end it states that the kids made it out alive, lessons learned
I'm very protective of this movie for nostalgic reasons as I watched it about 30 times as a kid.
I do the same thing with my daughter when she's naughty.
Damn you Ben I'll never look at grampa👴 Joe in the same light again.
the video decinced with the audio at around 2:30
Would love to see Ben and Zizek go at it on a heated political debate
And I agree. I'm glad I wasn't the only one to see it that way.
Ben should go to town about "Pleasantville"
Love the fact that he gave a shoutout to Honest Trailers
My favorite part is when the fat german boy falls into the chocolate river and his mom yells "He can't swim." then Willy says "No better time to learn."
Thanks, Ben. You nailed it!
I can just imagine a final verse to the 'Oompa Loompa Song' "What do you get when you sit on your ass? You sap the life from a boy or a lass..."
He doesn't kill the kids he plays to there weakness and flushes them!
Ben's absolutely right. Grandpa Joe was Uncle Joe! lol
A side note: I always wondered why Charlie didn't take his mom. She's the one who needed a break.
Agreed. I wonder how she would have reacted to Wonka himself?!😂
Well Ben, I'll never see this movie the same way ever again.. :(
I wish that i had done this for my character development essay for my english class.
I didn't know Ben Shapiro did movie reviews! 😂😂
After his usual takes on his podcast, he does a things he likes/hates segment at the end of his shows where he talks about movies, books, music, etc.
If you can get past the lack of sync between the sound and visual from a short way in, this was a very entertaining take on the film. I would be interested to know if Shapiro has given any other famous films similar treatment - anyone?
Holy shit Ben! Any more parts of my childhood you would like to destroy for me?
He didn't destroy your childhood he gave you the moral lesson of the movie
SquidlyTV
Seems more like his imagined lesson from the movie. If anything the "villains" were the other, misbehaved, children.
Exactly this what kids should take from the movie the lessons
How many SJWs can you cast perfectly as the children?
How many are *all* of the children *at once?* Fat entitled disrespectful attention whores, the lot of them.
Uncle Tom Genocide nuuu lol
Wooooow! Good breakdown Ben! I never thought of that! Thanks! lmao!
Each child was a sin and Charlie overcame his sin
Yes! I always had an instinctual problem w grandpa joe. I've had a lot of "grandpa joes" in my life except for my actual grandpa Joes (yes, both my grandpas are named "Joe" lol) who were the exact opposite of Charlie's jackass gramps.
“That his grandpa’s an idiot”😂😂
This is one of my favorite films of all time and I can say with one hundred percent confidence that he's probably right.
I never realized that about the grandfather, that's amazing😅👍
What's interesting overall it's the fact this movie is a feature length commercial for a line of chocolate/candy from Quaker Oats.
www.cbr.com/movie-legends-revealed-was-willy-wonka-a-big-ad-for-candy/
I got a buzz fed ad
I will never look at this movie the same ever again lmao
grandpa joe is 96 and a half years old, his only grandchild is the only thing keeping him alive. he musters all the strength he has left in his mortal coil to spend one great day with his grandson. hes a great human being.
YES ive been saying this about Grandpa Joe for years!! lol
Rip gene wilder 😿
Honestly I haven't seen the original film. But couldn't the granddad have been depressed for the last 20 years and actually happy for the kid? I'd need to watch it but that's sort of what I imagined when you started describing it
Gene Wilder > Johnny Depp
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D Melle *>>>>>>>>>
true he did a better job playing wonka but overall I still liked Charlie and the Chocolate factory better than the original
That is like comparing apples to ornages. They are both different and unique
nah nah you got it wrong
Thank you, for shedding more light on that movie.
I've seen this movie 100 times and never thought of it this way, but Ben is so right!
Now that I think about it, all the bad kids tried to take something that they didn't earn and ended up getting punished for it while Charlie is the only one that gave something in return. Is that some sort of conservative message?
Perfect analysis!
The chocolate lake part were he went crazy..crazyer
So shines a good Shapiro in a weary world...
That was a fantastic analysis.
Agreed!😃
Willy Wonka is my favorite slasher film about conservatism
Always knew there was a reason that I loved this film so much.
To be fair in the book Grandpa Joe doesn't heal instantly it's done over a period of a month I believe before they go to the factory. The fizzy lifting drink and Slugworth were also only very minor points in the book as well. But I still like his analysis.
lol only this guy could make a review like this for Charlie and the Chocolate factory. Classic
Mind. Blown.
I always thought this movie blew apart the classic idiom, 'that with age comes wisdom.'
My take on the movie is a millionaire giving all his stuff to the person who he deems most fit to have it.
I would say that the real evil in that movie is greed and it's not displayed by one person, which is why there's no true villain in the film.
God that imagination score is so amazing
that thumbnail though.
When you first said Granpa Joe, I thought you were completely insane. But after listening to why, my mind is blown.
savage
I will never be able to watch this movie in the same way
Thanks a lot Ben! lol
You forgot about Grandpa Joe's two giant coke nails.
0:30 Thank God
How did they use the bathroom?
Ever heard of bedpans?
But Charlie steals the everlasting gobstopper...
I noticed that. Glad I'm not alone. The movie was made during the Cold War
I would be leery of any candy factory that looks like steel mill.
what's up with the sound?
I remember my 7 year old self asking my mum "mummy is willy wonka a psychopath"
I like these Ben Shapiro videos but I sometimes hate the conservative channels who put stupid titles on them. Mostly the ones that say "Ben Shapiro Destroys Liberal" when it's actually a very civil discussion between Ben and a college student. This video title's not that bad but I don't see it as a conservative/political take on the movie. It's no different than those people online who take movies way too literally (for fun and jokes)
My point is, that Ben's making a non-politcal, light hearted joke about a movie, not some conservative-driven politcal message about corrupt liberal movies
Hey Nathan, just read your comment there and jut wanted to say I appreciate the insight. I'm guilty of a lot of the things you point out here, but I'll work to tale your perspective into account as I find it to be valid. Thanks for the feedback :)
Lewberry Productions in all my years I have seen every musical including signing in the rain from 1952 which is the best but Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory is one of my favorites from my childhood 😊
04:21 Not even to the crapper?!
Explaining Captain America Civil War poorly: a brawl with good CGI
Love Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory and night of the living dead from 1968,Johnny: They're coming to get you, Barbara, there's one of them now!
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Johnny: [in a creepy voice] They're coming to get you, Barbara!
Barbara: Stop it! You're ignorant!
Johnny: They're coming for you, Barbara!
Barbara: Stop it! You're acting like a child!
Johnny: They're coming for you!
[points to the cemetery zombie]
Johnny: Look, there comes one of them now!
Barbara: He'll hear you!
Johnny: Here he comes now! I'm getting out of here! Had to reference night of the living dead 📼