Pilicast: here is an extremely niché trick you can use to your advantage in a dogfight. Most WT players: uhm what is energy fighting? What do you mean I shouldn't just always hold S?
As a prior F-15 aircraft armament, I think it's slightly under 6 feet of offset, because whenever we had to install it (which absolutely sucks btw), I'd be laying from about where the drum is to about where the gun is to tension the feed, and I'm 5'10. great vid though!
@@Pilicast Yeah, I tried going through my Career Development Course study guide once again to see if I could find it, but it didn’t really say. Boresighting that gun though after a reinstall was a b*tch and a half. They developed a new easier method that uses a laser, but we weren’t authorized to use it yet so we had to use a scope that we put down the barrel, a piece of paper, a huge board, and a whole lot of time adjusting mounting brackets.
@@Pilicast very unrelated to this comment section but I must know, did you abandon your sparta aircraft sound mod for war thunder, or will it be updated, because it's one hell of a sound mod to let go to waste
just seeing massive chunks of metal falling with a massive flame coming from one end while firing a gun to fall in a certain way to kill another chunk of metal in the sky is quite the trick, I am impressed
Yub, we just use the rudder, skidding is really helpful in a scissors as you can scrub a lot of speed without being obvious. And you can severely fuck with an enemy's aim at least before radar/irst guide lcos gun sights.
nobody uses it because in real life, unlike Warthunder, the cannon does not provide enough recoil to perform a maneuver. Besides, an airplane has far too little ammunition to afford to shoot around wildly. an f15 has enough ammunition for 15 seconds of continuous fire...
how do you turn youre plane that hard? My instructor doesent let me fo that. What are your key Bindings for this amazing movement?? Please, i need to know
Honestly never thought that the gun firing would have that much impact on the plane in the air. I guess you dont really notice it in the fast pace games of top tier. Neat to see that a 20mm cannon firing can give the F-15 equally crazy turns like the yak141.
Incredible somebody dedivcated a video for such a skill. Altough top BR is just brainless missile spam anyways. Especially after Fox 3 missiles just about to ruin top BR like nothing else before. Foolishness the hope that less player in a match will make dogfight more possible without getting killed by the laughing third party because Fox 3 spam will finish the matches before anyone would getting close enough to dogfight in the first place. The pure joy of dogfight gaming belongs to props. Any Yak or Zero or Mustang give it back to you or some lower Br jet such as a Mig 15. But maybe I am just a wee too pessimistic. We will see soon.
This is probs more for competitive fights. These things don’t even happen as often on top tier air sim either as most of the time you’ll get third partied mid df
Doom Eternal music for an F-15 is extremely fitting. I always viewed Doom Slayer as an F-15, if he were a jet. Not to mention the heavily synthed chainsaw is perfect for cannon.
Did you know that Russian aircraft's ballistic computer (MiG-29 & Su-27) takes care of firing the gun and all the pilot has to do is fly the aircraft to give the gun the highest probability of a hit?
the land of the lables... unrealistic.. Fly a spitfire in simulator and get back to me. If you can fly that atrocity you can fly. Looks like you got lucky in the videos....
An informative video that isn't stretched to an hour of background info??? I didn't think this was possible with modern youtube... But yeah, outstanding stuff mate!
There is a very valid reason why nobody does this, both IRL and in WT. The speed regime where a "gun yaw" is even possible or remotely effective is so low, you are left vulnerable to air to air missiles. Plus with so little ammunition as you have with the Vulcan or comparative rotary autocannons, it is wasteful and just not worth it.
here's hoping the next amraams patch decreases the 16v16 player matches so we can see these cool techniques! there's just no way to do this outside of custom battles as long as missile spamming is around and big furballs in the middle of the map ruining 1v1s..
The real F-16 kicks its rudder to the side in order to keep the gun on target. Important as without it strafing ground targets would be near impossible
fun fact you can use some custom loadouts and gunpods to do pull this off and have a far more extreme effect (also gun pods generally have more ammo and are farther off center)
Pilicast: here is an extremely niché trick you can use to your advantage in a dogfight.
Most WT players: uhm what is energy fighting? What do you mean I shouldn't just always hold S?
More like they don’t even know how to free look correctly Lmaoo
chuck their missiles around and then fly away without turning once
walvis
Lvl4s at top tier be like: how to shoot missile?
@@Icemanツyou shouldnt spin it like a radar?
There is sacrifice to thrust since youre creating thrust in the the oposite direction to yaw the plane
nice cuts to the music
Mom, can we have thrust vectoring ?
No, we have thrust vectoring at home.
Thrust vectoring at home :
This is must've been what john boyd book refer to "last ditch gun manuver"
😂😂
The Mustard of War Thunder. Insane quality, and we dont care about upload schedule
Facts
As an oxy subscriber, I can say, we don’t care about upload schedule.
Ye
@@carrott36 As a Technoblade subscriber, I can say that we don't care either.
Yes, couldn’t have said it better
I want to see a dogfight with every weird trick you've shown, basically planes spinning around in confusing stall maneuvers
ace combat
war thunder duels
@@mywholedarname ace combat moment
Ace combat
"I want to understand the enemy"
As a prior F-15 aircraft armament, I think it's slightly under 6 feet of offset, because whenever we had to install it (which absolutely sucks btw), I'd be laying from about where the drum is to about where the gun is to tension the feed, and I'm 5'10.
great vid though!
Nice! I couldn't find any helpful measurements online for the F-15.
@@Pilicast
Yeah, I tried going through my Career Development Course study guide once again to see if I could find it, but it didn’t really say.
Boresighting that gun though after a reinstall was a b*tch and a half. They developed a new easier method that uses a laser, but we weren’t authorized to use it yet so we had to use a scope that we put down the barrel, a piece of paper, a huge board, and a whole lot of time adjusting mounting brackets.
@@Pilicast very unrelated to this comment section but I must know, did you abandon your sparta aircraft sound mod for war thunder, or will it be updated, because it's one hell of a sound mod to let go to waste
WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE GUNS WITH THE DOOM MUSIC
FRRRR
That did sound good
oh, i thought US mains are just trigger happy with large ammo pool but i guess they arent just mindlessly spraying around like taking a morning piss
Oh trust me they are, I doubt even 1% of us players even know or utilize this technique
@@blacklabel131WE SPEND TAX PAYER DOLLARS HERE!!!
“Did you do the trick?”
“Yes”
“What did it cost?”
“All my ammo”
I am afraid that even I spent all of my ammo I still cannot do the trick with a kill
@@tl3119 fr
Spend all the ammo just to get behind him and then BANZAI
Use A4 gun pod for yaw and default guns
laughing in 940 ammo F15 😂😂😂😂😂
Anyone else remember when the sagittario was added and the guns had so much recoil you could gun *pitch?*
Vickers hurricane too
The fact you timed the brrts with the doom music was absolutely amazing
Hahaahaha
Flanker players: “I can pull crazy AoA unlike any other fighter”
F-15 players: “same”
At the cost of all my ammo😭
holy shit high quality war thunder video
just seeing massive chunks of metal falling with a massive flame coming from one end while firing a gun to fall in a certain way to kill another chunk of metal in the sky is quite the trick, I am impressed
i knew when that doom music kicked i was in for some shit.... well here i go to testing for hours untill its usable
God the fucking montage of syncing a vulcan with DOOM music. Love it
this video is so fun to watch and actually has great cinematography, a nice break from normal War Thunder content. Thank you
Thank you!
Bro dropped the hardest f15 gun montage and thought we wouldn’t notice
Am i the only one who noticed that he used the vulcan sounds to sync the notes of the music at 2:11
This video reminded me that you can choose to carry a single left or right wing mounted 30mm cannon on the SAAB-105G. Might be worth a shot.
This is the sort of shit i wanna see in warthunder esports. not bunch of bronze noobs firing missiles at eachother.
Yub, we just use the rudder, skidding is really helpful in a scissors as you can scrub a lot of speed without being obvious.
And you can severely fuck with an enemy's aim at least before radar/irst guide lcos gun sights.
16 views in 2 minutes its over 😭😭😭
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he fell off fr
Dawg, your latest video has 265 views in a month, you never even made it high enough to even fall off💀
@@dnfluffles772 yo damn chill on me it's just a joke 😭😭😭
Projecting?
Dawg these videos are awesome. The presentation and pacing are so on point.
Appreciate it! :D
nobody uses it because in real life, unlike Warthunder, the cannon does not provide enough recoil to perform a maneuver. Besides, an airplane has far too little ammunition to afford to shoot around wildly. an f15 has enough ammunition for 15 seconds of continuous fire...
Babe wake up, the War Thunder movie man is back
Good sim pilots casually doing these maneuvers without wasting ammo
Bc its ridiculous...
@xDerHunterHeli not always, some of these maneuvers do come in handy for a good overshoot.
I can't wait to use this tactic at the battle field 😃
3minutes later:
GOD I HATE THIS GAME!!!
I prefer the Kfir gun stall, you can do a complete 180 and launch missiles at enemies behind you
@Pilicast were these filmed in AB or RB lobbies?
RB
Amazing video ❤
imagine actually having any of these planes unlocked 😂😂 (im poor)
The Eagle is simply the best. Including the best for gun yaw 🗣🗣🗣🦅🦅🦅
EAGLE OORAH!
PLEASE use motion blur in the cinematic bits, it will make them look so much better
I would know 😉😉😉😉 (the youtube algorithm hates me please help)
@@Pilicast I am Qualified™
I'm... going to strap a load of miniguns to one half of the A-1H and see if I can make this work at 6.3!!!
4:15 video, time spent editing: 3hour s minimum
As always, awesome video, here is my like
Hahaha 3 hours is a low estimate for my videos... But thanks! :)
legend says the next ace combat game will borrow the dagor’s physics engine.
Jetpack joyride ah movement
how do you turn youre plane that hard? My instructor doesent let me fo that. What are your key Bindings for this amazing movement?? Please, i need to know
I bound switch controls mode to the caps lock button, so I can press it quickly and go into full-real.
Damn why the fuck is this so high quality
Pili upload we're so fucking back
so THATS why u were shooting ur gun so much when we mock-dogfought in flankers lol
Perhaps
This is the first RUclips video that has genuinely impressed me in years.
I'm honored :)
Honestly never thought that the gun firing would have that much impact on the plane in the air. I guess you dont really notice it in the fast pace games of top tier. Neat to see that a 20mm cannon firing can give the F-15 equally crazy turns like the yak141.
Dude this is fucking gnarly
Does this apply in dcs
Same question, this is so cool
It’s not super practical until your basically stalling, But it’s sick to know!
Me in my Mirage 2000C-S5:
You make War Thunder look so good visually.
I use my rudders on the P51A in the British tech tree to get a couple shots on target
At low speeds it’d the best control surface but you can’t beat rocket propulsion…
that edit had no right to go this hard
Incredible somebody dedivcated a video for such a skill. Altough top BR is just brainless missile spam anyways. Especially after Fox 3 missiles just about to ruin top BR like nothing else before. Foolishness the hope that less player in a match will make dogfight more possible without getting killed by the laughing third party because Fox 3 spam will finish the matches before anyone would getting close enough to dogfight in the first place. The pure joy of dogfight gaming belongs to props. Any Yak or Zero or Mustang give it back to you or some lower Br jet such as a Mig 15. But maybe I am just a wee too pessimistic. We will see soon.
Good quality video ,
Someone send it to Defyn
Damn the ending… I couldn’t help but check out more 😂😂😂 I like that to the point great video and I don’t usually comment so that’s real😂😂
Imagine learning all of this just to get knocked out by a stray IR missile
I don't see a practical use for this in ARB unless it's literally down to a final 1v1 after the other 30 players have been wiped out.
could this apply to in real life fighter planes?
In certain circumstances, I'm sure of it
cool, but it's useless, there are practicaly no duels in AB nor in grounds
This is probs more for competitive fights. These things don’t even happen as often on top tier air sim either as most of the time you’ll get third partied mid df
@@cleverlaziness yup, my point exacly
I love the clips of the duelists comunity
Based Flyout footage
goated game
The F-16 was fitted with the earliest version of the A-10’s Gatling gun. That’s why it’s so powerful
With gun yaw. We can finally pull of proper ace combat manuevers lol
When I clicked on this video, I wasn't expecting this scale of quality. BRAVO!
I'm always having a second additional gunpod on the Su-25 and I just used that in a dogfight with a very good MiG-21 pilot. 😂
Doom Eternal music for an F-15 is extremely fitting. I always viewed Doom Slayer as an F-15, if he were a jet. Not to mention the heavily synthed chainsaw is perfect for cannon.
Did you know that Russian aircraft's ballistic computer (MiG-29 & Su-27) takes care of firing the gun and all the pilot has to do is fly the aircraft to give the gun the highest probability of a hit?
It's like IRL anime fight BS. If i saw it in the movie i would be like "yup, that's an asspull!"
the land of the lables...
unrealistic..
Fly a spitfire in simulator and get back to me. If you can fly that atrocity you can fly.
Looks like you got lucky in the videos....
An informative video that isn't stretched to an hour of background info??? I didn't think this was possible with modern youtube... But yeah, outstanding stuff mate!
There is a very valid reason why nobody does this, both IRL and in WT. The speed regime where a "gun yaw" is even possible or remotely effective is so low, you are left vulnerable to air to air missiles. Plus with so little ammunition as you have with the Vulcan or comparative rotary autocannons, it is wasteful and just not worth it.
here's hoping the next amraams patch decreases the 16v16 player matches so we can see these cool techniques! there's just no way to do this outside of custom battles as long as missile spamming is around and big furballs in the middle of the map ruining 1v1s..
Jokes on you, I play Trailmakers. If I want, the entire *propulsion* system for my aircraft can be built out of guns, let alone half-axis yaw control.
Good luck dogfighting in war thunder as every player will just shoot a missile at you from 10km
Love the use of doom music to demonstrate the power of the gun yaw
The real F-16 kicks its rudder to the side in order to keep the gun on target. Important as without it strafing ground targets would be near impossible
Idk looks fake as hell honestly
Especially with the pink contrails and just spraying ammo as a way to maneuver
This isn’t a real thing
Honestly one of the best new WT channels I’ve seen in a while keep it up!
In the real F-16 wouldn't the FCS account for the yaw? This is a war thunder "-ism" only
What happens if you use differential thrust and gun yaw?
spin
@@Pilicast how much spin?
@@urifriling3223 flatspin :)
fun fact you can use some custom loadouts and gunpods to do pull this off and have a far more extreme effect (also gun pods generally have more ammo and are farther off center)
genuinely useless trick that doesnt do much more than your rudder could unless your below 100 kph
but remember
you only have about 5sec trigger time(10ish if you're F15
you might be able to stick a single gun pod under the F4 phantom, i know you could do something like that with rocket pods
No pilot should get into a situation in which they are forced to resort to this. It's simply inefficient and unelegant
R27ER, Phenix: Good opinion, but there's a small issue
... A useless "feature" and an even more useless techinque... Like for real what is this...
id rather have more ammo flyin at mach 1 then pulling crazy manuvers to then get missle sniped
"YARGGGGGGHHHH I CONTROL MY PLANE WITH MY GUNNNNSSSSS!!! 🦅⚡🇺🇲"
In DCS, you can just use differential thrust save for gripen and the f16
So it's like the RCS thrusters on space ships, but on F-16s...
In real life this doesn't happen in an F-16. Remember the aircraft is a weapon system, and it is smarter than that...
If end end up in a situation with the f-16 where you can use gun yaw, you should not be flying the f-16
The music sycronisiation made me "ignite my afterburner"
Of course it only works with unrealisticly high amounts of gun ammo :D
Where we're going, we don't need roads... flaps, elevators or a rudder. We need more guns to steer with!
I swear to god if i ever reach top tier and the plane in front of me uses his cannon to drift and kill me im uninstalling
Life and death: costs nearly $12000 a second
That’s cheap!
Side note, if you are floating around like this you are a juicy AAM target
thanks for not making a 15 minute video for a less than 5 minute topic!