I seem to have struck a chord by not having my finger on the front brake, but there's a good reason! Since these trails are relatively flat flow trails, you really don't need to brake much and more importantly there are a lot of wet roots you can't really see in the video. If you've ever pulled the front brake on some wet wood you'll know why I didn't bother using it this day. Don't worry, I don't usually ride like this, check my other videos ;).
I dont get it..But you keep doing it where the dirt is perfect without any roots..always one finger on both levers.when your mate you're fallowing is crashing, you wont have the time to brake that fast with a rear brake.when you have no trust in your front brakes, lower your tire pressure or find a tire that can handle it. Think its just unnecessarily dangerous.
Andi Epunkt that’s not true it’s called death grip and it only takes a millisecond to hit the brakes. Mentally though it makes you a lot more committed, great for drops or jumps or any situation where full commitment and no front braking is required
You don't need fingers on the brakes your finger will find its way there when you need to stop it's an automatic muscle memory thing but is having brakes covered by your fingers all the time is your thing it doesn't matter ride however your comfortable and how you feel safe.
@@AndZzo101 They are pretty flat flow/jump tracks, if you stab the rear brake you will dump speed quickly... also there's good sightlines, skilled riders unlikely to crash etc... really confused why people think this is so dangerous lol.
@@harryingd2674 i’m asian and i honestly wish mate i’m riding down hill bike parks with my 300 quid hardtail and I nosedive every jump appreciate the stereotype that i wish was true though 😔
@@edwin7150 aww don’t worry man my dad says we have to share his bike. Like how does that even work I can’t drive so I can’t ride alone and my mom would never
You seem to be concerned about going faster. It appears you are going pretty fast (unless that is the GoPro effect) so the question I always ask myself is "am I having fun?" the answer is always yes so speed is not that important to me. Are you having fun?
@vancan I know why I like your videos so much , the honesty and self assessment of your riding is great and pretty much describes the place im in as well , we need to catch these faster dudes and speed in and out of corners is the key , look forward to us both cracking the code
Hey up are 29 bikes weird to ride if only ride 27.5 all life was thinking of a stump jumper 29 for local trails with jumps drops so on what you really think now you rode 29 bike cheers Phil
Bro I wish I had trails like this by me. I live right by bootleg (where the dvo diamond and mob n mojave races are held) and it is fun for a bit but growing up riding these trails honestly gets a little boring. You learn not to trust the loose corners due to it being so dry and rocky. Now whenever I ride somewhere with some good loam I am never able to feel comfortable on cornering so I always lose my speed and am never able to connect jumps. It is sooo frustrating. Any ideas on how I can work on my cornering?
Don't beat yourself up you're never going to be on as fast as local riders for the first few runs try doing some yoga might make you a little bit loose on the bike to start off with I have the same problem .
Dude, I broke my 2018 Reign, bought a new Transition Scout 2020 frame but while it gets here a friend lent me a Nukeproof Scout. My first time on 29er. Since I come from bmx, hardtailing is sooo good. But oh man I'm jumping like a madman, sending it too hard for my own health. Had the exact same thoughts as you, i don't know if its the lesser weight, non squishy rear end, extra speed of the big tires but holy 🐮.
@@lyrkk470 Im 5'7 too and Im riding my first season on a 29er. I'd say it basically jumps the same it just feels a bit heavier to throw it around. So if you're into doing big tricks I wouldn't consider a 29er. And you have to pay attention to the back wheel. Because we are so "short" the back wheel is right under the seat on downhills. Overall I think there are more pros than cons for the 29er especially when you ride XC Stuff.
Sick video man, i met you there on that day when you were filming, i checked out these trails and the jumps are HUGE, way bigger than they look on camera
Dude these trails look so sick! Nice progression throughout the video! Sometimes all it takes is a lap for you to remember you actually can ride a bike! Keep it up!
It's probably a awesome video but RUclips ruins every mtb video i try to watch anymore with the extremely psychotic amounts of buffering even though i have strong and excellent connection speeds and top of the line phone or even a home computer and when the videos do play they are so extremely blurry that it mentally hurts to even try to watch them and i am sure it probably isn't healthy at all for eyes to have to look at stuff that is RUclips blurry how i mean. Like my phone is a true 4k phone such as it can record videos in 4k and it has a 4k screen and is a Sony phone and here on RUclips the videos are so extremely blurry how i mean. It has been so extremely horrible to see my videos and others be so extremely destroyed by RUclips such as i have GoPros that do 4k and the videos look awesome until they are on RUclips and then they look blurry and such how i mean. So thanks Van Can for trying to make awesome videos, but RUclips is ruining them.
If you want to work on carrying speed through corners a flat corner drill is extremely helpful. Just find a dirt road with a slight gradient and set up some cones.
Such a cool area! I went and checked it out this past weekend and it is defiantly a place to check out if you're in the area. The local riders are all super nice. The climbing trail might be steep, but since it is short it is an easy mountain to do laps on.
Its interesting how things get in your head and sych yourself out when your alone, but when with friends who are faster and better you instantly have more adrenaline pumping to give you confidence and balls you to take on things you couldnt do before. Way to go bro, your doing great for 2 yrs of riding. Keep it up!
Well done buddy! Your lines got better and better and your jumps/landings got smoother and smoother as the video went along. You're like me, you take a bit of time to get warmed up but when you do you're a solid rider my friend! You gained a sub from me!!
I'm not big on jumps, but kinda think that those jumps seems to be no problem. But making RUclips videos myself I know how much smaller things looks like on video... Probably would have struggled going for those jumps IRL 😂
Just subbed your channel! My third MTB channel (Dale Stone and Dangerous Dave are the others). While I like Dale and Dave’s less words is more approach to their channels, yours is a great counterpoint and really informative. Nicely done! I gotta say, as a 50 year old guy about 5 months into this mountain bike thing, I was shocked to hear you say that, at the time of this posting, you’d only been riding for 2.5 years! Is that true? No other bike or motorbike background? My heart would be in my throat doing the stuff in this video. I only just started hitting jumps recently - mostly the couple of small ones on Garbage on Burke where I’d hit the jump; stop; walk the bike back up the trail and do it again. It’s pretty ugly still, but I’ll keep trying. If I could be half as good as you’ve become in another 2 years time, I’ll be happy.
The way you were hitting those jumps I knew there had to be a bit more to the story! Anyway, thanks, and keep up the great work. Now that I’m subscribed I’ll be checking in more regularly.
Omg I can't believe you don't ride your bike exactly like everyone else says you should 😶 shame on you for not complying to the snowflake, super triggered, finger on my lever Nazi's!!! 🤔🤨😬🤦🤯 Do you bro screw the haterzzzzz 🤘
Just cause someone is going faster than you doesn’t mean that you aren’t. Stay positive my dude. Progression takes time, remember to focus on what you are doing and try not to dwell on how “fast” others are going cause you can match that it just might take time!! Love the vids bru, keep it up!!
I was thinking the same thing. There's always someone faster. You were shredding it, riding super sick trails!! I'm jealous. I wouldn't even really want to go any faster than that, but that's just me😉.
I just found Dale's YT maybe a month or so ago. I can't say enough about his vids. Super clean and simple videos. Absolutely love them! Also, it's a great day when you post a new vid! Keep up the good work!
they are also flickabe, the super long, extreme bikes are too, I know one so I sure know it.😄 you just have to get used to it, need to find the balance points. my bike also has slack head angle at about 61 deg according to my phone, super stable steering, with 33mm stem its direct steering. the way the bike is it's super stable and is planted, but if you want to make it hop you can, just have to get used to the balance points, timing. so I see this as an advantage, my bike is Nicolai/Geometron G1 size large.
Dude you need to bring that speed to some trails in Australia... They are dry and vicious here on the Gold Coast.. But your speed fears will drift out the windows after a few runs on these tracks
I have just come off from my second ride on my 29er MegaTower and I 100% agree, first few rides down it felt really alien, like you are not connected to the bike. My last couple of rides down I was feeling a lot more confident and much quicker than on my 650b.
Huge differences between first day on the trail and the 4th or 5th time on the trail. Dont give yourself such a hard time relax! Speed comes when you're not thinking, the days when you feel like not riding and the days you need to blow off steam. ;)
its also really hard to tell which direction the jumps are leading to. my first time going down, i would have been confused as hell too as they seem to come up quickly and its hard to tell whats a jump, a barrier, or regular trail.
Have you thought about letting a rider that you're riding with that's about the same weightand height try your bike out and see if they see something that maybe set up just a little off like maybe a little too much tire pressure were not enough...maybe your bikes not optimally set up for the style of aggression writing that they're doing.....
Bike setup is pretty personal, so I don’t put much weight on how other people ride. That being said I keep experimenting with setups until i find something that works. After this ride I raised my bars a bit.
What date was this filmed. I live a 5 min drive from thorn hill. Took my daughter down OSB for her first run down a trail. How long does it usually take to post a vid after filming?
I seem to have struck a chord by not having my finger on the front brake, but there's a good reason! Since these trails are relatively flat flow trails, you really don't need to brake much and more importantly there are a lot of wet roots you can't really see in the video. If you've ever pulled the front brake on some wet wood you'll know why I didn't bother using it this day. Don't worry, I don't usually ride like this, check my other videos ;).
I found the exact same thing on this hill, front brake is pretty unnecessary. Just lean into the corners.
I dont get it..But you keep doing it where the dirt is perfect without any roots..always one finger on both levers.when your mate you're fallowing is crashing, you wont have the time to brake that fast with a rear brake.when you have no trust in your front brakes, lower your tire pressure or find a tire that can handle it. Think its just unnecessarily dangerous.
Andi Epunkt that’s not true it’s called death grip and it only takes a millisecond to hit the brakes. Mentally though it makes you a lot more committed, great for drops or jumps or any situation where full commitment and no front braking is required
You don't need fingers on the brakes your finger will find its way there when you need to stop it's an automatic muscle memory thing but is having brakes covered by your fingers all the time is your thing it doesn't matter ride however your comfortable and how you feel safe.
@@AndZzo101 They are pretty flat flow/jump tracks, if you stab the rear brake you will dump speed quickly... also there's good sightlines, skilled riders unlikely to crash etc... really confused why people think this is so dangerous lol.
"no matter how good anyone is, there will always be a 12 year old that can shred better than them"- someone
lmao
Except of the 12 year old
Or an asian
@@harryingd2674 i’m asian and i honestly wish mate i’m riding down hill bike parks with my 300 quid hardtail and I nosedive every jump appreciate the stereotype that i wish was true though 😔
@@edwin7150 aww don’t worry man my dad says we have to share his bike. Like how does that even work I can’t drive so I can’t ride alone and my mom would never
This was a super fun day, figured you'd enjoy what Thornhill had to offer! Other than that blind right hander of course. ;)
That one almost got me too the first time i rode trail dweller
Love your channel, love VanCan, so stoked to see you both in the same vid
I really like your channel. I like how you are talking about how you feel on the trail and it's probably how most of us feel.
😎He who brakes and rides away will live to "jump" another day 🥳
You guys now a MTB with 44 (or at least 42) theeths in the front? 🙂🤔
I love speed...
0:46 blue hardtail in the air WTF?
You know... just a hardtail frame *lodged into a tree by the headtube*
Dude. It’s 2020. 29ers can do anything 😏
I just broke my rib from watching. Wish l could come do that trail
I watched this while training on my Cycle Ops 2. Broke my collarbone 4 weeks ago so it was fun imagining I was riding with guys.
You seem to be concerned about going faster. It appears you are going pretty fast (unless that is the GoPro effect) so the question I always ask myself is "am I having fun?" the answer is always yes so speed is not that important to me. Are you having fun?
This is my favorite type of riding. Hit awesome jumps, climb back up, hit awesome jumps again, repeat until exhausted. Great video!
So many front brake police in the comments. Somebody hire them while they still know everything. 😂
Keep sending it bro!
You only write this because you are a front braker yourself
Riding with fast mates is the best thing you could do to improve your riding
@Steffen grüße gehen raus haha ;)
@vancan I know why I like your videos so much , the honesty and self assessment of your riding is great and pretty much describes the place im in as well , we need to catch these faster dudes and speed in and out of corners is the key , look forward to us both cracking the code
I don’t think you are giving yourself enough credit. You were completely blind. Next time you will have no issues.
Hey up are 29 bikes weird to ride if only ride 27.5 all life was thinking of a stump jumper 29 for local trails with jumps drops so on what you really think now you rode 29 bike cheers Phil
All those pointed stumps ready to impale someone if they come off a jump wrong looks proper shady. I'd be sawing those off 😅
Bro I wish I had trails like this by me. I live right by bootleg (where the dvo diamond and mob n mojave races are held) and it is fun for a bit but growing up riding these trails honestly gets a little boring. You learn not to trust the loose corners due to it being so dry and rocky. Now whenever I ride somewhere with some good loam I am never able to feel comfortable on cornering so I always lose my speed and am never able to connect jumps. It is sooo frustrating. Any ideas on how I can work on my cornering?
Great progression. Way to send those jumps! speed is your friend when jumping. I need to practice more.
Looks like a really awesome trail to learn and improve jumping skills.
Don't beat yourself up you're never going to be on as fast as local riders for the first few runs try doing some yoga might make you a little bit loose on the bike to start off with I have the same problem .
man dude those look sick and they probably look Evan bigger in person
Dude, I broke my 2018 Reign, bought a new Transition Scout 2020 frame but while it gets here a friend lent me a Nukeproof Scout. My first time on 29er. Since I come from bmx, hardtailing is sooo good. But oh man I'm jumping like a madman, sending it too hard for my own health.
Had the exact same thoughts as you, i don't know if its the lesser weight, non squishy rear end, extra speed of the big tires but holy 🐮.
im 5'7 and im looking to get a new enduro bike to do park and agressive xc trails(all thats close to me) is a 29er any different to jump?
@@lyrkk470 Im 5'7 too and Im riding my first season on a 29er. I'd say it basically jumps the same it just feels a bit heavier to throw it around. So if you're into doing big tricks I wouldn't consider a 29er. And you have to pay attention to the back wheel. Because we are so "short" the back wheel is right under the seat on downhills.
Overall I think there are more pros than cons for the 29er especially when you ride XC Stuff.
Why don't they remove or cut off those sharp tree stump beside the landing area. That is deadly.
I’m thinking of buying an Enduro, I’d like to see a follow up review after you got tour warranty replacement. Looks like you’re loving it!
What bie oyu riding and what Santa Cruz bikes riding the rest of the crue ?
Thanks for making this video Nic! Enjoyed watchin ur progression throughout the day
Thanks Will!
Nice video! So what do you prefer? 29 or 27,5?
Sick video man, i met you there on that day when you were filming, i checked out these trails and the jumps are HUGE, way bigger than they look on camera
Where are the trails at?
Dude these trails look so sick! Nice progression throughout the video! Sometimes all it takes is a lap for you to remember you actually can ride a bike! Keep it up!
It's probably a awesome video but RUclips ruins every mtb video i try to watch anymore with the extremely psychotic amounts of buffering even though i have strong and excellent connection speeds and top of the line phone or even a home computer and when the videos do play they are so extremely blurry that it mentally hurts to even try to watch them and i am sure it probably isn't healthy at all for eyes to have to look at stuff that is RUclips blurry how i mean. Like my phone is a true 4k phone such as it can record videos in 4k and it has a 4k screen and is a Sony phone and here on RUclips the videos are so extremely blurry how i mean. It has been so extremely horrible to see my videos and others be so extremely destroyed by RUclips such as i have GoPros that do 4k and the videos look awesome until they are on RUclips and then they look blurry and such how i mean. So thanks Van Can for trying to make awesome videos, but RUclips is ruining them.
¨100m of elevation¨ sounds like a dream to me
im danish
I just want to know which is better 27.5 or 29 to the trail
If you want to work on carrying speed through corners a flat corner drill is extremely helpful. Just find a dirt road with a slight gradient and set up some cones.
Man they just don’t have anything like this on the east coast, looks like such a blast
What's your camera setup??? Also, i love this raw beautiful asmr riding brings me joy.
Go pro on the chin bar of my full face. For settings, look up The Loam Rangers go pro videos.
Such a cool area! I went and checked it out this past weekend and it is defiantly a place to check out if you're in the area. The local riders are all super nice. The climbing trail might be steep, but since it is short it is an easy mountain to do laps on.
Its interesting how things get in your head and sych yourself out when your alone, but when with friends who are faster and better you instantly have more adrenaline pumping to give you
confidence and balls you to take on things you couldnt do before. Way to go bro, your doing great for 2 yrs of riding. Keep it up!
keep up with the awesome vids.
-i miss the red tues....
It's like you're commentating every ride I go on...
ARE YOU RIDING THIS BLIND!!??
Glad to see someone who isn't a professional.
So are u a niner guy now or still a 27.5 guy?
That fog is spooky yet beautiful. Super fun looking trail and the dirt looked fantastic except for an occasional puddle.
i think im gonna save up for this bike
Well done buddy! Your lines got better and better and your jumps/landings got smoother and smoother as the video went along. You're like me, you take a bit of time to get warmed up but when you do you're a solid rider my friend! You gained a sub from me!!
I'm not big on jumps, but kinda think that those jumps seems to be no problem. But making RUclips videos myself I know how much smaller things looks like on video... Probably would have struggled going for those jumps IRL 😂
Killer video! I’ve been riding about the same length of time you have but I need to work on my jumping big time! Still freaks me out sometimes!
Just subbed your channel! My third MTB channel (Dale Stone and Dangerous Dave are the others). While I like Dale and Dave’s less words is more approach to their channels, yours is a great counterpoint and really informative. Nicely done!
I gotta say, as a 50 year old guy about 5 months into this mountain bike thing, I was shocked to hear you say that, at the time of this posting, you’d only been riding for 2.5 years! Is that true? No other bike or motorbike background? My heart would be in my throat doing the stuff in this video. I only just started hitting jumps recently - mostly the couple of small ones on Garbage on Burke where I’d hit the jump; stop; walk the bike back up the trail and do it again. It’s pretty ugly still, but I’ll keep trying. If I could be half as good as you’ve become in another 2 years time, I’ll be happy.
Thanks!
I’ve only been mountain biking for a few years but I’ve ridden bmx for about 15.
The way you were hitting those jumps I knew there had to be a bit more to the story! Anyway, thanks, and keep up the great work. Now that I’m subscribed I’ll be checking in more regularly.
They are so much bigger in person damn
Nice looking trails there
I like the bc pov style intro
just moved from a 26 to a 29er
Where are the trails in this vid??
I was wrong 29ers difficult to manual
Nick. Man, you take the biggest jumps in the whistler bike park. U have no excuse to be sending the shit out of these baby jumps ;)
Wow 2.5 years? Impressive
Thanks!
Wow, this view!
What's your gopro setting and set up? Because I love this plan...
Very smooth and satisfying 😍
Hero 8 on the chin of my full face
@@VanCan OH okaayy! Isn't a chest....
But for the hypersmooth, you use normal, high or boost?
What bikes you on...
Maybe be a bit more confident and open when you’re doing the voice overs! Love your vids🤙🤟
Can u do a jump technique video. I’m crashing every 4th or 5th. Dead sailors etc.
Eye don't see any bear spray
Awesome riding guy’s, I would love to give those trails a blast sometime. Your enduro sounds sweet!
Omg I can't believe you don't ride your bike exactly like everyone else says you should 😶 shame on you for not complying to the snowflake, super triggered, finger on my lever Nazi's!!! 🤔🤨😬🤦🤯 Do you bro screw the haterzzzzz 🤘
VanCan: this time everything goes as planed
8:09 going into the stump 😂
Just cause someone is going faster than you doesn’t mean that you aren’t. Stay positive my dude. Progression takes time, remember to focus on what you are doing and try not to dwell on how “fast” others are going cause you can match that it just might take time!! Love the vids bru, keep it up!!
I was thinking the same thing. There's always someone faster. You were shredding it, riding super sick trails!! I'm jealous. I wouldn't even really want to go any faster than that, but that's just me😉.
This video was sick. I'm personally not a fan of 29ers, but thanks for proving me wrong too.
I just found Dale's YT maybe a month or so ago. I can't say enough about his vids. Super clean and simple videos. Absolutely love them! Also, it's a great day when you post a new vid! Keep up the good work!
He has a specialized not a yt
@@andrisvelmeris he talks about his older vids where he had a YT Capra + Tues..
@@AndZzo101 No I wasn't talking about bikes at all. I said Dale's YT (RUclips channel). lol
@@andrisvelmeris I men't Dale's YT (RUclips channel).. lol
they are also flickabe, the super long, extreme bikes are too, I know one so I sure know it.😄 you just have to get used to it, need to find the balance points. my bike also has slack head angle at about 61 deg according to my phone, super stable steering, with 33mm stem its direct steering.
the way the bike is it's super stable and is planted, but if you want to make it hop you can, just have to get used to the balance points, timing.
so I see this as an advantage, my bike is Nicolai/Geometron G1 size large.
It’s not the bike dude , you’re riding style is amazing, it’s not all about speed dude 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🌲🌲👌🏿👌🏿
For them to pull away from you they must be quick, cause you're not exactly a slouch yourself
The crew was riding with 27,5 wheels and you with 29ers right? 🙂
All 29 except Laura I think!
@@VanCan thank you for the response. 🙂👍
Interesting to hear you arent completely confident coming from bmx. Anyways, keep at it. You live in paradise 🤙🤙
That looked fun omg! Have you ever counted how long you are in the air on a full ride?
Scares me that you do not have your left finger on the front brake lever. Sick video BTW, those trails look super fun.
Mike Frisk *right finger. 😛
Your vids are fascinating and I love my 29er. I'm too old for much tech, but I still learn from you. Thank you.
Stop beating urself up. You’re an excellent rider.
not that I can jump at all, but I can't wait to rip my 29er on some trails soon! looks so fun!
Grew up on thornhill riding the area. Perfect cause I could ride up without parents driving anywhere 🤙🤙🤙
Dude you need to bring that speed to some trails in Australia... They are dry and vicious here on the Gold Coast.. But your speed fears will drift out the windows after a few runs on these tracks
I have just come off from my second ride on my 29er MegaTower and I 100% agree, first few rides down it felt really alien, like you are not connected to the bike. My last couple of rides down I was feeling a lot more confident and much quicker than on my 650b.
Huge differences between first day on the trail and the 4th or 5th time on the trail. Dont give yourself such a hard time relax! Speed comes when you're not thinking, the days when you feel like not riding and the days you need to blow off steam. ;)
its also really hard to tell which direction the jumps are leading to. my first time going down, i would have been confused as hell too as they seem to come up quickly and its hard to tell whats a jump, a barrier, or regular trail.
All those yellow Norco Sights. 🤤
That’s looks like a super wet ride, how do you guys do it?
-Me, an Australian in the middle of a desert
looks really fast to me. i like your videos very much and your style of commentating is great man. greetings from germany
Are theses trails your shredd’n in Washington or Vancouver CA ? ...Just curious? Great riding brotha!...
Canada!
joined the dark side muahahaha
Nice work up there guys. Hey how is that enduro treating you???? You feel you improve riding ?????
It feels great, but I don’t think it’s improving my riding. Only practice will do that
You feel like it's easier to go nose-heavy jumping and dropping the Enduro with those long chain stays?
A bit. But I’ve raised my bars a bit and that seems to have solved the issue
Hi! Great video! Did I miss where you said what you are riding? Eager to know. Thanks! :)
I have a specialized enduro
Have you thought about letting a rider that you're riding with that's about the same weightand height try your bike out and see if they see something that maybe set up just a little off like maybe a little too much tire pressure were not enough...maybe your bikes not optimally set up for the style of aggression writing that they're doing.....
Bike setup is pretty personal, so I don’t put much weight on how other people ride. That being said I keep experimenting with setups until i find something that works. After this ride I raised my bars a bit.
I'd like to see 185lb+ jump videos!
Pretty cool jump trail, always good to session thing
What date was this filmed. I live a 5 min drive from thorn hill. Took my daughter down OSB for her first run down a trail. How long does it usually take to post a vid after filming?
This was about 2 weeks ago
Man!!! what a trails!!! so crazy
As an XCer id rather ride up Thornstar but to each their own
Your Lucky to be riding in a place like that with a bike like that
I love your videos! In my opinion awesome riding and style.