DISNEY LISTEN! Deborah Chow and Ewan Talk Obi-Wan Kenobi Season 2
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I really want a season two, but I want Ewan, and Hayden to have more input to their own characters.
Hey, hey, you forgettin somethin... this isn't Obi or Ani's show... it's Reva's show.
Eeeerrrraaaaaaaaggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋
this is by far the best series/film out of the whole star wars franchise. Star Wars had gotten so bad that I stopped watching the films. It's just by luck that I came across this series and I watched all six parts. It's pure genius, stunning looking and the best acted out by a country mile. To be honest, I think the writers and dicrector reached their peak here and that this won't be topped again. This is like lightening in a bottle and can only be captured once.
I think the only way it would work is if it focused exclusively on his past, like each episode focused on a different aspect of his history, like maybe an episode set during the clone wars, or him training Anakin in between episode 1 and 2, or maybe even his first time meeting satine. It could be more of a character study rather than 1 straightforward storyline
Like that idea a lot
Flashbacks don’t work for people like Hayden not trying to sound like a dick but he like 40 and he doesn’t have a youthful look like he did in 2005 idk for me he just looked bad
Like Arrow was on CW ?
Did the first season work? Belittling a man with a child and women isn’t what you do! These old white men look like women now lol this show is 🗑️
@@dja1647 I mean if they used their deaging tech
Such a painful show to watch. How could they do this to such important characters. Debra Chow and Jobey Harold failed us so horribly. It’s unfair to the actors and it’s unfair to the fans.
It’s a wonderful show to watch!
@@deathstar5138 And sooo u like the Kenobi show? You’d think someone with a Darth Bane pfp would have better taste 😂
@@deathstar5138 Okay then king go off
@@deathstar5138 like sorry for giving a fuck about the thing you so call “love”
@deathstar5138 How obi wan show was shit show to began with compare to andor.
I personally could find a season 2 be so poetically depicted with a dichotomy of Qui-Gon teaching Obi-Wan so many secrets of the Force during the course of the season, whilst on the opposite spectrum throughout the season we see how Palpatine withholds secrets from Vader and manipulates him constantly to keep him as a pawn as opposed to a successor.
Honestly if Kenobi S2 is anything like S1 I’d rather we don’t get it as I don’t want Disney to tarnish these legacy characters George created any further.
/salute
seriously, its like watching a child held hostage being tortured and nobody cares
@@_.HERCULES._i agree with ur point but like, relax lol
@kitkatdealer827 The only way you get that is if they take a hit in viewership. That's the only way things change.
I want a Session 2
seems weird to have a season 2. What more could this guy have done? His whole shtick was that he was exiled on Tatooine waiting for Luke to come of age. Adding more and more story to him seems less probable
It was meant to be a trilogy first with vader second and third was meant to be of different things like obiwan learning on the force and so much more
@@Andalaeknir86 Still not a reason to have a show.
Him being in the desert learning with qui gon jin or maybe he does the yoda thing and discover the God's of the force like the wills and mortis gods
@@cosmickeyboard9811Training for what? Just to be able to become a force ghost? That sounds like a 30 minute special. For something else? To make him powerful? For what? He still dies in New Hope.
He needs to train to be a force ghost. Like Yoda did in animated series. must defeat his hubrus. They could show dream like scenarios involving any character past or present like clone wars dis. Awesome live action twighlight zone type stuff. It also serves as a guide to the older Star Wars fans that are dealing with death and their mortality . After all this is a modern myth. Unlike the horrible world between worlds concept that is more akin to marvel and destroys SW timeline and canon.
If they could make it like the Yoda Ark and able to hear Qui-Gon it should be amazing. Also the Empire is gaining full momentum, will be able to show a lot of cool stuff. Time will tell
The Kenobi series broke my heart. Of all the shows I thought they would put forth the most effort- that they’d have the best writing, the best filming, the best fight choreography, the best direction, the best effects, the most care and heart. And it wasn’t.
Andor got all of that
Kenobi deserved to be a film (maybe not that story), that was the original plan, audience wanted it. but Disney got too scared to release Star Wars films after solo bombed, solo was okay but nobody wanted to see a young solo nobody was saying yay a young Solo that would be great the way there was campaigns about bring McGregor back as Obi-wan, Harrison Ford was about 35 in Star Wars he was quite young anyway he wasn't playing an old man like Alex Guinness was, which gave room for McGregor to play a younger version. people did want to see him again
@@ConnorMcCartney95Andor is The English Patient of Star Wars. Nobody cares. Even me and i watch the critically acclaimed borefest
@@GarthKnight1884 plenty of people do. Only Star wars project with great writing and acting.
@@ConnorMcCartney95 plenty? These sites don't even release viewing #'s but it's widely known nobody watched or cared about this $250 million dollar show. Classic Lucasfilm
I want a remake of season 1 😂 but yeah I totally agree. Filoni, Hayden, and Ewan in a room. Make it happen.
I’d like to see Quinlan Vos. That mention of him was one of the only exciting things they wrote into the script.
Need Quinlan Vos to save it now
Disney clearly doesn’t know what to do with Star Wars. It’s almost like they are trying to destroy all that was created by George Lucas and the original characters.
@adamweber1545 I wonder if they could take Legend of the Seeker and just add lightsabers. That would be fun.
That’s exactly what they’re doing
I feel like the main critique (in their hears) is 'It's not like George, It's not like George" so their ego get involved and they try new things with incompetent people
they should go on an ayahuasca retreat and let Dave feloni choose who get's involved
They are. Think about the power of the stories and the characters within them had to sustain people through hard times, to inspire them to be better... that right there is exactly what they set out to destroy. It's not that they're clueless about that element to Star Wars, it's not that they don't get how the magic of it works, it's that they want to snuff it out. That's been their intent the entire time.
Same goes for Marvel and every other piece of property Disney has gobbled up in the last 10 years, btw, and same goes for several other large-scale corporations e.g. Amazon, Netflix, etc.
Honestly if a S2 did happen, I want Filoni to do it because there is a scene from a clone wars unfinished episode that I want to see as part of a flashback or dream. It would be great to see that recreated in live action. Also it would be a way for Filoni to do what he loves best… referencing Ahsoka.
In the dessert? I’d love to see that one finally brought to life.
We literally all sat and anticipated epic stuff from Hayden and Ewan EVERY SINGLE WEEK just to get a show all about Reva. Disney is a joke.
The one where anakin asked obi wan how he would feel if he turned out to be a major disappointment?
You fans been saying that for years
@Squiddy-go1du Man, WHY don't you guys like new blood? There are a lot of talented people out there. Why not changed it up. It's always Filoni this, Filoni that.
I couldn’t agree more. I enjoyed quite a lot of the kenobi show. However there were some moments that just did not make sense to me, like hiding Leia in his coat?? So I would love a season 2! And I would love it even more if Hayden and Ewan were two of the producers as they know their characters inside and out. No one will know them better (apart from George himself!)
It's called entertainment as in it's just fiction. This is a stunning work of art and far better than anything that the star wars franchise has offered. Most of the star wars movies have been crap save the first three to four movies. Finally, we get this Obi Wan and it's amazing. It's like they took all the good parts from the early movies and made a series out of it. The looks of the characters and the special effects are amazing.
Are ye all wanna be movie makers trying to sound pretentious or something?
I agree! Debra was good under Jon & Dave but that’s it! Don’t get me started in Joby.
We need Jon or Jon & Dave on this. Season 1 could have been amazing! They just needed to include all the cut clone wars scenes, minimize Reva and then kill her like was originally planned.
Reva surviving 2 lightsabers through her guts was ridiculous!
Wouldn't surprise me if Disney gives this incapable woman another chance for no good reason. The writing and directing was poor and laughable.
@@HeK. All so they can/could push some really dumb “feminism” agenda 🤦🏻♂️ 😒
Darth Maul was literally cut in half...
@@laughingoutloud28she's no fucking Maul
@@laughingoutloud28 doesn’t matter because he was a good character. Reva wasn’t
It's funny how Deborah Chow said she was inspired by the Obi-Wan Kenobi novel by John Jackson Miller, and yet, she didn't take any notes from it.
I think executives had alot of say in this especially evident in the budget. This show was really restricted for some reason.
Maybe she only read the first chapter 😂
@@CommanderTexasI love how Kenobi had the worst budget but fcking Andor had a better budget.😐It seriously just pisses me off at this point. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been taken out of a shot bc it just looks SO FCKING CHEAP. Bro the cgi is crazy now a days why aren’t they using it. Idk about cost but I guarantee that’s cheaper but I guess it would take longer
I feel so bad for Hayden Christensen(Anakin) and Vivien Lyra Blair(Leia) and Indira Varma(Tala). They’re the biggest victims of this abysmal and it’s terrible writing. Anyone agree?
Vivien got much love
@@joel5135 Doesn’t change the fact that the show SUCKED
Tala and leia are some of the biggest reasons the show sucked
@@chasehedges6775 actually your opinion
@@aries9296👎👎👎. Haven’t see the Witcher but Kenobi did suck
I think that having Darth Vader training with the Emperor is a huge opportunity for some dark Star Wars live action material. They could also make some scenes of Vader dreaming in his bacta tank of Padme and what “could have been” in a future with her alive still, showing an older light-side Anakin and the kids. Showing the Republic had it not fallen to darkness, all these types of things. Just in Vader’s dreams though, of course. It could show Qui-Gon training Kenobi like Theory mentions. Definitely A LOT of material for a multi season show, with undisputed high ratings.
Right
Leave the old shit in the past! Stop tucking it up!
i liked Kenobi a lot more than i didn’t. could they have done better? absolutely. i’d love for them to do another season so long as it doesn’t take away from other projects obviously. i’d prefer them to do another season honestly, so long as hayden and ewan have their parts in production.
I adamantly oppose anything to do with a new Obi-Wan season
/salute
Why are you here ....
They need to fire the writers of this show asap
@@iluvrobux7658 I agree
I don’t…
Btw Deborah didn't write this dogshit. It was Joby Harold (the Guy who didn't watch a single Star Wars movie 😂)
So please don't Blame her (at least Not only her)
You can blame her for her shite direction, it’s not just the writer who’s responsible for that mess.
She’s the one behind the dogshit shaking cam and pitch black lighting
Her directing in Kenobi was god awful
@@jangomango66 yeah kenobi proved that a single director for a whole season is not a good idea. at least not when there is a short schedule. because then it will always be rushed automatically. deborah's direction on the series was very weak. Because this Show was so rushed. And Not possible for only one director. She was pretty good in mandalorian.
What really matters is that the season is written by the same writer (who knows Star Wars). like in Ahsoka. and at best, the writer (if he's also a director) shoots the first episode to set the tone of the series
Yeah but Doesn’t matter she was the director, the show as a whole was ass writing, visuals and all. She shouldn’t have ever been the director anyways there were way better options out there she was just a diversity hire and the product showed that.
There are only 2 reasons I would want a season 2. To clean up the mess they made of season one, which I’m not even sure is possible. But the biggest reason? To tell a Starkiller story. It would fit perfectly in the timeline and where Vader is at mentally after his fight with Obi Wan. “Now I am the master…”
season 2 start with obi-wan waking up in a cave: "What a terrible dream, good thing I never gave up on my training and never left tatooine"
They need to hire the writers who does the novels. Their work has been great
How can some pple defend that leia hiding scene when the actor herself even thought it was ridiculous lol
I want a season 2 so bad just to see Ewan and Hayden again... but at the same time, I'm scared and don't want it.
Yeah just one of those things that don’t want to see anything worse than what we already saw. The show had its moments but damn when it was bad it was bad.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
I agree, I'd like it if hayden and ewan had a big say in how their characters are, but I also think we need no dragged out episodes if it was to happen, which I'm still not sure about fingers crossed ahsoka can springboard Disney into listening to the fans more and taking their time with these series
Your comment really could have said, I want more. And I know I shouldn't...
@@Ruylopez778nice reference lol
Like the idea you suggested following Obi-Wan and Vader but separately in their own story. Let hunt rebel factions. Let us see Obi-Wan's training. Stuff like that would be good
I would like the show being about Obi learning how to be a force ghost. I would expect it to look similar to the Morris arc in the Clone Wars.
If there is a season 2 Debra better not direct
Insert that one scene from the office:
“Oh god, no god please no, noooooo!!!!”
So true king!
But on a serious note we all do appreciate the "damage control" and the commitment and love for the integrity of lore and the story
Season 2 could have story to explain Mace Windu and Dark Vader, since we all know Windu managed to survived the fall. Obi could have some spying episodes where he tries to get more information about Palpatine, who fooled every one! Obi could help some lost Jedi and now that he knows more about Leia, have some adventures with her. That would be awesome to see a reunion with Ahsoka where he would help her become more powerful.
Of course there will be a season 2. There are at least 10 more years of stories to tell about everyone’s favourite character, Reva 😂
Reva a starwars story. LMAO
@@JGburneraccount😂😂😂😂
reeeva: a disney soy woke story
with a cameo by oobie doob benoobie
Ya’ll are so toxic when it comes to female characters doing their part…
@@macrush1111Every community in any franchise is always this toxic. It’s the sad reality we live in 2023
If we do get a s2 there better be an Obi-wan line about understanding why Anakin hated sand so much 😂
Uhm, because he grew up on Tatooine?
@@HeK. I know that 🤦
I meant as some kind of joke because Obi-wan living there will also grow to hate it.
Obi Wan was excellent. I think people forget what TV is for…..entertainment. Sure we can all nit pick but it was entertaining.
I agree! 🙌🙌🙌
I think a second season split between just Vader and obi wan would be cool, like they could each get their own episodes and they could alternate; episode one is kenobi, episode two is Vader, three is kenobi, four is Vader, and so on
Give Vader more screen time and don't bring Reva back.
Spot on!!! Disney and Kathleen Kennedy have ruined this brand and letting people turn out crap is not the way to save it.
Thank You for caring about Star Wars and just being truthful about characters and story lines that matter!!
I do want this, having Obi-Wan go off on his own this time, making his own adventures and if Hayden is in it I want more Clone Wars flashbacks 🥺
I really hope season 2 has a good storyline I’m just worried about what it’s gonna be about and I hope Liam neeson is apart of it
He’s already said no
He shouldn’t even of been in season 1 Disney just breaks Star Wars canon for fun
@@nickjcirilloFR
@@nickjcirillo
Qui Gon jinn lore is pushed out the building floor the way homelander force the teenage girl to jump ...
@@nickjcirillowhich canon was broken
Anything that brings Hayden and Ewan back together onscreen, I support. That said, I think S2 would benefit from a much darker and grittier tone, The Dark Knight-level dark and twisty. Obi-Wan needs to seriously confront his inner darkness; was leaving his dismembered brother/best friend to burn to death while Anakin pleaded for help much better than Palpatine's actions? Where was the infamous Jedi compassion in that moment? I think Ewan and the exec team need to give a lot of thought into the writer for S2; I'm not sure Harold is the best choice for this next installment.
Other Star Wars RUclipsrs sometimes don’t share your opinion and all but honestly I mostly agree with u about anything. You are just the best Star Wars RUclipsr.
I was shocked when they didn’t give Kenobi to Dave Filoni.
if s2 happens i want Kenobi and Luke together, i still hate how Leia knows Kenobi now in canon even though it makes no sense in canon since in ep 4 she talks to him like a stranger.
Well she also knows him as Ben Kenobi and that wouldn’t make sense if they had never met beforehand.
Amen brother. It’s good to see you still have faith despite what’s been going on. We’ll see what happens
I stand with you and your views on EVERYTHING. It's like you're the voice inside my head, speaking out loud.
Keep up the great work brother 🫶
The biggest problem with the Obi Wan Kenobi show was that it was Kathleen Kennedy’s baby so to speak, the safe hands of Favreau, Filoni or even Gilroy were no where to be seen and it was completely under the guidance of Kennedy and her story group. Chow was essentially neutered with her role as director instead of showrunner, meaning her creative input into the show was limited at best. There is a reason why the show, narratively, feels COMPLETELY disconnected from the main saga, because it’s narrative was simply constructed by people who know no more about the original 6 films than Wikipedia synopsises.
Cal Kestis showing up in the Kenobi series would be interesting right in the same timeline. I think “The Path” and Cal’s future could be heavily intertwined! Flashbacks including Cody, Padme and Anakin would be cool too.
ive never played those games, but id be up for a live action version of cal 👍
no i dont think all the characters should meet in the universe. Like super fan fiction writing
@Star_Wars_With_PercyMan Honestly, I would prefer Galen Marek and Cal Kestis to appear in Andor. In Obi-Wan we're going to get people hiding beneath trench coats, a spaceship is inside another spaceship, costumes and sets look cheap and it's owned by a multi-billion dollar studio, baseball bat lightsabers, the most powerful windows ever.
@@Ytomany I never said they do, Obi-Wan is likely done working with “The Path”. And Jedi refugees looking for a home sounds exactly like what Cal has been actively trying to do. I think Cal could meet with Quinlan Vos instead, and Obi-Wan can stay on Tatooine like he should.
❤ I COMPLETELY AGREE with you this should ONLY be about DARTH and OBI-WAN.
THEY still have 20 years of story to tell and they only told a small portion.
The pathetic focus was on Reva and Leia.
If Deborah Chow runs this again, please let Ewan and Hayden help direct because, like you said, they know the characters!!!
Apparently there's still a lot of good captures that they shelved that could still be used.
YES I am here for a second season, but NOT the way they did the first season to these two iconic characters.
The way you say Kliq is amazing
I don’t want a season 2 it’s just gonna give more people a reason to laugh at Disney for making these then we will get even less content
I see this as an absolute win. If they make less content, they'll be putting an emphasis on quality.
Season 2 is needed, because Kenobi still needs to fake his death...again. As Rex says in Rebels Season 3, "Ezra, no one would like to believe General Kenobi is alive more than I would, but Senator Organa confirmed his death". Right now there are hundreds of people that know Kenobi is alive, including Vader. Another important quote from Rebels Season 2: Palpatine: "Skywalker's apprentice could lead to other lost Jedi." Vader: "Such as Kenobi?" Palpatine: "Perhaps...IF he lives" The empire INCLUDING Vader and Palps think he is probably dead. That is NOT where S1 of Kenobi left off, heck he was just walking around in the open on Alderaan? Like bro...
You are my hero you said out loud what myself and most STARWARS fans have been feeling
You're doing a great job, theory, and totally right about the Disney executives. You are definitely not alone in your true passion for Star Wars.
I don't understand how these huge shows run by huge companies don't have a serious Creative Director aside from the writer, someone who's not necessarily a writer but an expert on the lore and very well read person who can come up with great ideas, the Brian dude from Game of Thrones who was the head of Lore department in the team
Look how got ended 😂
The dude who ruined X-men origins ruined got
@@vengeanceconscious9774 I mean the writers weren't even listening to George RR Martin at that point, let alone the lore director, and that dude wrote the only good episode in the last season, the episode 2 which was by far the best episode in that season, where everyone's at Winterfell and its very depressive and terrifying and the episode ends with a song from the book, if you see on IMDb that's the only well-rated episode in the whole season
@@Ar1AnX1x George was the one who left them hanging by not finishing the books.
He told them how to end the story but not how to get there.
@@combatsportlover6919 George has his own issues but they agreed to do more than 10 seasons because there's enough material for it(HBO also wanted them to do more than 10 seasons), but D&D wanted to fast track it and move on to another job, if they used all the material and they were at season 11 right now then George would have been obligated to have the show ending ready for them by now, but how that they pretended they too good for Game of Thrones and didn't wanna waste their life on it they're probably at telemundo or some shit writing some crap
"We are all happy it happened"
No we clearly are not
I would love a parallel story arc that focuses on Obi-Wan, going through the trials similar to what Yoda faced, ending with the final battle with Maul in live action. & otoh, Vader intending to rid himself of the last shred of Skywalker left in him, going to ancient Sith temples acquiring more knowledge on the dark side but ultimately failing to eliminate that last bit of good that Luke found in him would be mind-blowingly amazing.
you make great videos!!
Integrate Maul!
* Show the fall of crimson dawn via Obi-Wan and jabba the hutt
*Maul vs Vader
*Show how Maul gets stranded on Malachor
*More qui gon jinn in a meaningful way
A maul vs Vader would only feel right if it makes sense for them to fight if not they shouldn’t fight at all
@@lieutenantwolf5437 he claims that he can't beat him alone in Rebels so I would assume that he's tried... It'd be a great fight... His speed alone would make Vader work for it
@@keyseronthewire2575 when did he say that lol
I need to see Maul VS Vader in canon. There’s still untold story time to do it. And I always think about when Ahsoka told Maul that he’s lucky Anakin didn’t show cuz he wouldn’t have lasted long 😭 If they make a season 2 hope it’s good for one, but I hope we see that
“I feel like I’m doing damage control for them”. Thats so freaking true.
I really hope there is another season. Ewan McGregor is always amazing playing Obi-Wan. 😊
Nah I'd just rather not have a season 2.
Having a second season acknowledges that there was a first, and in this case I'd rather forget the show ever existed tbh😂
Lmao 100% this
Okay if Kenobi gets multiple seasons I want to see what the young actor for Luke could do
surely we're not gonna have young luke do anything too crazy
how did u blow up the death star on ur first time using the force?
bcos i've been training with vader and kenobi for 10 years as a youngling
Throw away his father's lightsaber
@@starwarsjoey228 yeah that would be weird
@@TK-wk6xd if they gonna destroy canon
Appreciate the discussion, Theory. Thanks for doing what you do & providing a platform to talk about this kind of stuff.
I've got a lot to say about this. First, I see where you're coming from about Deborah's directing. I think the best way to describe it is it feels like TV when it should feel like cinema, especially given the awesome Prequels recap from episode 1. I didn't like how she reused the same wide shot in both lightsaber duels, and the choreography was okay but looked off, like she was trying to blend the Prequels with the OT.
The locations outside of Tatooine, Alderaan, and the inside of the Fortress sucked: Daiyu was super bleak and dark; Mapuzo was unremarkable & we didn't get to see what it looked like before the Empire; the moon where thr Fortress was located was just a faded dim turquoise; and Jabiim, a central battleground of the Clone Wars, we literally didn't see. It was just an old hangar.
However I've got less of a problem with the writing; I don't think Kenobi going offworld to save Leia, them having a relationship, or Vader and Obi meeting again breaks canon. Its not improbable or particularly silly, but I don't think the execution did it justice. Reva sounded good on paper, but you could've instead replaced her with the Grand Inquisitor and spent the money polishing him and the Inquisitors up to have them look and act more like they did in Rebels.
Unfortunately this means we wouldn't get the great scene of Owen and Beru defending Luke from Reva, including Owen's "He is my own" line. Perhaps instead we could have had a band of Tuskens led by Asharad Hett (who was a former Jedi) attack the Lars farm, and Obi-Wan returns in the nick of time to save Luke, fulfilling his duty to both Skywalkers. This could also be a hook for season 2, incorporating part of the original script for the Obi-Wan Kenobi show/movie before Joby was brought in.
As for the arc between Kenobi and Vader, I don't mind Ben being in a dark place as much as I did with Jake in the Sequels; what we saw in the show did right where the Sequels got it dead wrong. I appreciated seeing more focus on Leia, and Ben seeing much of Padme and Anakin in her. Vader still wanting to get revenge on Kenobi, and still not learning from his mistakes, is also fine, since it also gives background to what he said to his old master in A New Hope. Same way Ben hadn't moved on fully from RotS, neither did Vader. So the fact they both had an arc to go through in this show is fine. But I understand Theory and many fans being tired of the cookie cutter mold.
I would like to see Qui-Gon Jinn teach him the right way to train Luke the right way. When he is ready
As long as Debroah Chow isnt involved, I'll be excited for a season 2!
People forget, while she wasnt the writer she was behind the lens with the awful action scenes (ie Leia kidnapped) and the horrendous shaky cam.
And that dumb awful scene where leia was hiding under obi wans coat, they need to fire whoever thought of that idea
Shouldn’t have been so centred around Leia too. It should have been about Obi Wan protecting Luke, while else was going on with Leia that Obi Wan needed to tend to. But someone like Ahsoka should have been watching over Luke it happens.
Disney please do NOT do a season 2. Season 1 danced on canon enough let’s not bring it back for a clear money grab. IF ANYTHING… have him do some shit on tattooine… not off planet, NO VADER VS OBI AGAIN
Now this is the type of video I like to listen to. Preach
Idk how good of a premise this is for a story, but personally for S2 I think Obi-Wan’s incentive to leave tattooine could be him reflecting on the harm that his name has brought to others, or more specifically his family (since there was that scene where he recalls them). His family will also have the Kenobi name and I imagine there will have been some archive of where every Jedi is from, so it would be possible to find them. I don’t think there should be a bond between him and them as he IS a Jedi and maybe they were actually murdered by vader shortly after they last fought (which could be a way to keep him involved without him ever coming face to face with Obi-Wan). Idk how good of an idea that is or if it should be a major part of the story or if it should just be what gets him off the planet etc.
I kinda hope they don’t make a season 2. Don’t get me wrong, of course I would like to see more Obi Wan and Vader but no matter what, fans will still be divided over shows dealing with these two huge legacy characters so it’s better to create new shows with new characters. As for bringing Dave in, we can’t just keep relying on him to make all the content for us. Yes, he knows Star Wars best next to George but he can’t do everything at the same time.
I think along with that, there's just nothing else that's compelling to tell around Obi Wan post ROTS, pre ANH, as whatever compelling stories that exist on him were already used in Rebels and Kenobi S1. If Kenobi S2 would just be him chilling on Tatooine with Ghost Qui Gon, why put the effort in that when there are other characters out there with more compelling stories to tell?
There are a lot of talented people out there. Why is everyone so obsessed with Dave. Give someone else a chance.
@@requiemheidireprisal7824because Dave is the only person who truly understands starwars at Lucasfilm now
@@xatikz I don't really believe in absolutes.
-KOTOR's Drew Karpyshyn, James Ohlen, Chris Avellone, can outclass him.
-Haden Blackman, Shawn Pitman, John Stafford, Cameron Suey, John Stafford, Rich Davis are some of the minds behind Force Unleashed.
-Labyrinth of Evil novel by James Luceno, these are just some examples of folks who should be given a shot at a Star Wars project.
@@xatikz Yeah, but that's not exactly a high-bar to set over there at Disney and LucasFilms. And frankly I'm with the other commentor... People need to stop obsessing over Dave so much. It's not like his presence has done a whole lot of good over there so far; and while I'll grant he did good work on "The Clone Wars", it wasn't exactly revolutionary... Outside a few moments or ideas, just solid content. That's all.
As much as I love obi wan and Anakin, season one was so god awful I don’t want them to ruin it any further
I don't know about all of you, but i'm SUPER HYPED for the Reva Show with guest stars Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader!
That dramatic cut to Dave Filoni had me dying. I love it
Kenobi’s biggest issue imo was the budget. Sure some silly scenes but Vader and kenobi were done great. And their confrontation had the most emotional scene in all of Star Wars.
Shh you can't mention positives on this channel you must hate everything Disney star wars or your not a true fan 😅
For the love of God, stop. Disney needs to Stop making Star Wars. They’re only destroying it more with each show/movie. Disney sucks
Love it! Keep hammering em, they need to understand the story and true lore behind these characters. Especially Obi-Wan.
star wars theory obi wan kenobi rocked!! i loved it!!
Hope they actually come out with a second season
If it does I genuinely want a new director, Deborah made so many mistakes in the show from a directional standpoint (the 2 abysmal chase scenes, Vader and the fire, the laser gate moment, the stormtrooper stunned by a slap to the helmet, the saber bouncing off the trooper, the two stabbings Reva survives with her teleporting to Tatooine next episode completely fine the next episode, GI getting surprised stabbed by Reva, jacket scene etc)
Not only her but the writing team also has a fundamental misunderstanding of the laws or lore of Star Wars as if they only watched ROTS once while drunk and that’s it. The writers and Chow should absolutely not return and knowing how the high ups circle the wagon and never gives accountability for inadequacies I know they would return as if they did nothing wrong the last time and somehow make an even worse season so I don’t want to see it.
yea, but i guess theres a chance she will learn from her mistakes
You forgot about the entire episode where Obi Wan infiltrated the Inquisitor hq. The part where Leia was hiding under the jacket made me throw my hands in the air
I’d love to see a season two where we see Obi-Wan’s training to become one with the force if it’s anything like yoda’s training in the clone wars series. Plus more Qui-Gon.
The "looking at the wrong side of the list" was SO on point Theory. Completely agree!
Dave, Hayden and Ewan could make something epic! Keep KK's fingers of destruction out of it and you would have a winner! Also let G Lucas do some sideline directing! If all four were even mentioned they played a part of the writing and directing, fans would flock & money would pour in!
Bro no
Hey @Theory I'm a big fan but maybe not sounding so entitled on getting likes and "actually" looking at the camera to ask for more likes would be great, and not passively saying thanks would be beneficial to you and your loyal fan base
It means a lot to hear you critique this. Others said the same thing bt with you i have seen the passion with which you follow this. Please continue to fight for this franchise
Mauler said it best “ it’s not a passing of the torch but a torching of the past”
It's always nice to see Theory give honest advice and suggestions about how disney could do things differently for something like this, but it's always sad to know that disney will never listen (imo) to Theory or any fans because they didn't from the beginning. I have mixed feelings about a season 2; I dont see disney changing their anti-lucas mantra anytime soon
Please god no. Stop destroying our heros
Thanks for speaking the truth brother, we DEMAND high quality stories
6:30 😭 REAL
Queremos Kenobi 2 urgente!!
Kenobi 2 podría ser tener el desenlace de lo que le pasó a Reva y un encuentro de Kenobi con Black Kasanthan y Cody
See, I really don't agree that there's 10 more years of stories to tell. The fundamental problem with the series was that there's nothing that isn't going to feel extremely contrived. We could see something like Yoda's arc in TCW season 6, I actually kinda liked Houssein Amini's sort of preliminary idea that the first season was about him coming to terms with all that happened and Qui-Gonn's training being largely about him coming to grips with his mortality and where his place in all this will end but I don't think they're going to make something without fanservice and big lightsaber duels.
I still think the reason why the first season didn’t do well was because Disney rushed Debra
Or Debra Chows not a good director
kenobi proved that a single director for a whole season is not a good idea. at least not when there is a short schedule. because then it will always be rushed automatically. deborah's direction on the series was very weak.
it only matters that the season is written by the same writer. like in Ahsoka. and at best, the writer (if he's also a director) shoots the first episode to set the tone of the series
@@chasehedges6775, she gave us good Mandalorian episodes. She was given more time maybe they would’ve been better and not felt rushed like episode four
Great critics, I strongly agree. Much love from Germany🇩🇪
I can see a series that follows Vader in the the wider galaxy now feverishly trying to find kenobi (like, a Vader series), meanwhile Obi-Wan is training on Tatooine, defending the Lars from Tusken Raiders, subverting "industrial change" so that the eyes of the Empire remains away from it etc.
All the while, parallels are being drawn from experiences of the clone wars and that's when we get to see more live action Anakin and Obi-Wan.... what an awesome series that would be. Oh, and no filler episodes obv.
Keep Deborah Chow as far away from season 2 as possible please god. Give it to one of the Andor directors, maybe the lady who did the Aldani arc. 100x more competent
Andor is honestly the only good thing we got so far, and also the tales of jedi show
fr. the cinematography in andor was amazing
why does everyone hate kenobi, i thought it was amazing
It broke canon by having Leia meet Obi Wan when it was established in A New Hope that Leia never met him and that she only knew him by reputation by her father. It also broke canon by having Obi Wan fight Vader before their confrontation on the Death Star, since Mustafar Vader was a learner, which is why he was defeated. It also didn't make sense that Obi Wan spared Vader after their fight in the show because Obi Wan Jedi philosophy would not allow Obi Wan to let a Sith lord run freely around Galaxy killing people.
Same here I thought they did a wonderful job with it.
Some people say it had no purpose at all but that is just wrong:
#1 we got to see Luke’s childhood
#2 we got to see Leia’s childhood
#3 we got to see how Leia knew Obi Wan, example how do you think Leia knew where to send the message in the New Hope the original Star Wars movie to Obi Wan saying “your my only hope” and how did she know Obi Wan would even help her when she needed help the most. Well Kenobi answers that.
#4 The show gives us a good example of what the inquisitors are and sure rebels gives us that but not everyone seen that but Kenobi got popular and introduced new audiences to learn all about that.
#5 We got to say what things were like 10 years later after order 66 + more things that happened when order 66 happened in the Jedi Temple.
I could name more if you like?
@@TK-wk6xdNo
@@TK-wk6xddude , don't waste your time with these Disney nimrods. they don't care about continuity, character development or story progression. Theses normies are a fickle and will consume anything mediocre that di$ney sh*ts out. 😆
can we get season 2 where it finally explains the line "if you strike me down i shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine" where obi wan goes on a journey in the force and gathers all the skills and knowledge.
You are spot on with this. Agree with everything you say. Please Disney...listen 🙏
I think I speak for a majority of us when I say that we don't need a season 2.
I can’t wait to actually join a watch party!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Today I'm 45. Thanks for putting on an episode on my birthday
There is a reason why Disney is getting greatly affected by the writers and actors strike. Tbh, I kind of predicted that throughout last year that a certain strike for writers and actors would happen and it will take a serious toll on the studios, including Disney. And wouldn't you know it, here we are with the writers and actors strikes still on going as of now.