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Hey Boris, great video! The NHSC gives much more than $50,000. They cover your ENTIRE cost of school (tuition, books, equipment, health insurance, etc.) and give you a monthly stipend for living expenses as well as pay for relocation, travel costs for interviewing, etc. It's a total value of $150,000-$200,000 I'd estimate.
Nice! Are you on an NHSC scholarship right now? Maybe I’m mistaken, but there are several options, one of which is where they just give you some student loan repayment, I believe $25,000 a year for a two year commitment, if you take a job at one of their clinics. The program you’re talking about you have to apply for before even starting school.
@@BorisThePA Yes, I am! The scholarship is while in school, and loan repayment is what you’re talking about. You’re already at the job site when you apply and it’s not one of their clinics, but any health clinic that qualifies as a medically underserved area (rural, a federally qualified health center (government designation), a correctional facility, critical access hospital, etc). You apply anywhere just like a normal job and aren’t assigned a place to go.
I have liked and saved this video so I can come back and watch it ! Thanks so much ! I am a foreign medical graduate with plans of going to PA school ❤
That’s great! What country did you train in? Have you seen the video I just posted with Dr. Ketul Barot? He’s a physician from India transitioning to MD here in the US
Hospital Corpsman of 9.5 years here! Currently working on my MSC-IPP packet, but I wanted to know other options in the case this route doesn't work. Your video was very helpful, thank you!
Hey brother! I think the Veteran Affairs Physician Assistant option is currently open to veterans only at this time. Specifically for the PA route. For MD and nursing options it's open for civilian and veterans.
@@lightofislam9315 that's ok I understand completely. Thank you for the explanation I didn't know that. There must be a real culture clash for you in America and other western nations where everything runs on interest-bearing debt (credit cards, car loans, mortgages, etc.)
Great info! I am looking into the HPSP. I just paid off 35k of my credit card so I am debt free because I didn't want to be stressed during PA school & trying to pay bills and go back into debt again for school so this sounds like the best option for me. Once I get my BS and get into PA school, is boot camp before PA school or after I graduate? From my understanding, it's PA school living my civilian life and then after I graduate, it's boot camp then active duty as a PA? TIA
Would love to get your input on my situation. Im currently an undergrad but working towards med school. As it stands, im 100% p&t from the VA, and I have my 36 months of GI bill at 80%. I was thinking of doing the VA HPSP, which would leave me owing the VA 6.5 years of service. Would it be worth it for me to go 100% debt free? Or am I just better off taking whatever loans I need and then aggressively paying them off once I start making some money?
1. Thank you for your service bro 2. Why only 80% on the GI? Either way you shouldn’t have many loans if the GI is paying most of your way. Especially in NY state which has the yellow ribbon program or in Texas where vets go to school for free (forgot the name of the program)… so unless I’m missing something, student loans shouldn’t really be a big deal for you. 3. Depending on how many years of service you have, the VA might be a good career option for you anyway because those years add to your retirement… So if you get 20 years total between your Service and your VA career, you can retire. That’s something I toss around a lot but just haven’t Started with the VA yet because I like my current job.
You do, the salary depends on what kind of contract you negotiate, but it should be appropriate for your level of experience and the location. Typical starting PA salaries (for new grads) can be between $85k-$120k/year depending on specialty and location.
Good video! So, if I already have a bachelors and want to do PA school but I have a family what’s the best route? Sounds like you can do school and then work at one of the approved underserved area practices and apply for loan repayment? Is that while staying a civilian or enlisting? Can I do the one where I’m enlisted and my time in PA school is counted as enlisted years? I’m still a bit confused 😅
lol lots of questions and definitely need way more details about you to answer any of those questions. Happy to discuss on a zoom call if you would like. www.BorisThePA.com to book a session
Hey Borris I was recently accepted and I was looking into the NHSC program. Do you think in the long run it's worth applying to? because I know they Pay their PAs less than what they would regularly be making.
Hey, congratulations that's amazing!! NHSC sites' salaries are not necessarily lower than jobs that are not at NHSC sites. So at the end of the day, it's a matter of dollars and cents. Let's say an NHSC site pays 90k/year the first year, plus you get that tax-free $25k/year towards your loans. Let's say you're tax bill (very roughly) is 25% including federal/state/SSI/Medicare, so you're making 67,500/year after taxes plus that tax-free 25k, which brings you up to 92,500 after taxes. Then, let's say a non-NHSC job offers you 115k/year, which is only 86,250 after taxes. So a job would have to pay you 124k/year before you end up making the same after taxes that you would get from an NHSC site that pays you 90k... which is about the lowest you should see for a starting PA salary (of course this varies by specialty/location, check the AAPA salary report for details, but this is just a rough estimate). Aaand you're not very likely to be offered 124/year for your first year out of PA school. So I guess what I'm saying is, do the math and you'll find that NHSC does make sense financially in most cases. However, make sure it's the specialty and location you want as well, unless salary and paying down your loans is more important to you than anything else :)
@@BorisThePA Thanks for that detailed response Borris and I just want to thank you for your interview advice. I think that helped me get into PA school and also please continue making youtube videos u are a great inspiration to me!
@@topdawgkilla881 I'm so glad to hear that. I can't wait to start making videos again and I have a LOT to share and talk about. I'm just trying to finish strong and do well on the boards, so the next 2 months or so will be really busy. But once that's over, I'll definitely start making videos again. So happy to hear you're doing well!
Definitely competitive, but like any of these other programs, the application process scares a lot of people away… So if you’re willing to do the work to apply you actually have a decent chance
@@myoldvan119 congrats on your acceptance! no you won't need to be "in regs" during PA school. That starts once you get to officer development school (ODS)
I’m sure it varies greatly depending on your level of experience, your direct supervisor, and many other factors. One former Navy PA I know told me that he had a ton of responsibility and autonomy right out of PA school.
Hi Krishna, a PA in the military does everything a PA in the civilian world does plus they are also a military officer so they have additional administrative duties. Depending on their assignment, they might be in charge of a team of nurses and enlisted medical personnel. Of course there are also various deployments such as on US navy ships, overseas bases, and active war zones.
I’m very confused….. so the two years of PA school NHSC covers your tuition and gives a stipend but when you start working on the site they also give you 50k on top of your salary?
Good question! So the NHSC is just 50k over 2 years toward your loans and yes that’s on top of a normal salary. But NHSC does not cover your tuition or give you a stipend during school. The military or VA programs are the ones that cover tuition and give you a housing stipend while you are in school, in exchange for a service commitment after you graduate.
NHSC has a scholarship program & loan repayment. Scholarship is during school and includes covering all of school + $1,400 monthly stipend, then you get paid a normal salary when graduating.
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Hey Boris, great video!
The NHSC gives much more than $50,000. They cover your ENTIRE cost of school (tuition, books, equipment, health insurance, etc.) and give you a monthly stipend for living expenses as well as pay for relocation, travel costs for interviewing, etc. It's a total value of $150,000-$200,000 I'd estimate.
Nice! Are you on an NHSC scholarship right now? Maybe I’m mistaken, but there are several options, one of which is where they just give you some student loan repayment, I believe $25,000 a year for a two year commitment, if you take a job at one of their clinics. The program you’re talking about you have to apply for before even starting school.
@@BorisThePA Yes, I am! The scholarship is while in school, and loan repayment is what you’re talking about. You’re already at the job site when you apply and it’s not one of their clinics, but any health clinic that qualifies as a medically underserved area (rural, a federally qualified health center (government designation), a correctional facility, critical access hospital, etc). You apply anywhere just like a normal job and aren’t assigned a place to go.
@@ChristianPA oh sweet thanks for clarifying, and congrats that's amazing!
I have liked and saved this video so I can come back and watch it ! Thanks so much ! I am a foreign medical graduate with plans of going to PA school ❤
That’s great! What country did you train in? Have you seen the video I just posted with Dr. Ketul Barot? He’s a physician from India transitioning to MD here in the US
Hospital Corpsman of 9.5 years here! Currently working on my MSC-IPP packet, but I wanted to know other options in the case this route doesn't work. Your video was very helpful, thank you!
Hooyah corpsman!
Dude - I love your channel. Please keep posting!
Thank you so much Sherry! I have a lot more coming soon :)
Hey brother! I think the Veteran Affairs Physician Assistant option is currently open to veterans only at this time. Specifically for the PA route. For MD and nursing options it's open for civilian and veterans.
Hey dude, I didn’t know that. Thanks for letting everyone know!
I would love to do that way and I don't mind serving underserved community. As a Muslim we can't take a loan out that has a interest on it
That’s really interesting! You have a religious obligation to avoid debt???
@@BorisThePA No, we cannot take loan which have interest on it but can take loan that donot have interest.
sorry, i am not good in english
@@lightofislam9315 that's ok I understand completely. Thank you for the explanation I didn't know that. There must be a real culture clash for you in America and other western nations where everything runs on interest-bearing debt (credit cards, car loans, mortgages, etc.)
Great info! I am looking into the HPSP. I just paid off 35k of my credit card so I am debt free because I didn't want to be stressed during PA school & trying to pay bills and go back into debt again for school so this sounds like the best option for me. Once I get my BS and get into PA school, is boot camp before PA school or after I graduate? From my understanding, it's PA school living my civilian life and then after I graduate, it's boot camp then active duty as a PA? TIA
I’m sorry I’m not qualified to answer that, you should speak with a medical officer recruiter!
Would love to get your input on my situation.
Im currently an undergrad but working towards med school. As it stands, im 100% p&t from the VA, and I have my 36 months of GI bill at 80%.
I was thinking of doing the VA HPSP, which would leave me owing the VA 6.5 years of service. Would it be worth it for me to go 100% debt free? Or am I just better off taking whatever loans I need and then aggressively paying them off once I start making some money?
1. Thank you for your service bro
2. Why only 80% on the GI? Either way you shouldn’t have many loans if the GI is paying most of your way. Especially in NY state which has the yellow ribbon program or in Texas where vets go to school for free (forgot the name of the program)… so unless I’m missing something, student loans shouldn’t really be a big deal for you.
3. Depending on how many years of service you have, the VA might be a good career option for you anyway because those years add to your retirement… So if you get 20 years total between your Service and your VA career, you can retire. That’s something I toss around a lot but just haven’t Started with the VA yet because I like my current job.
Hello, can you also make a video on possibilities for international students to apply debt free or financial aid or even scholarships option?
Hi! Sorry that’s not something I have any experience with personally!
I didn’t knew this
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I want more information. I always wanted to be in the military and be a PA.
Definitely a good way to go! Check the information for the video - there’s links for much more info on the programs I talked about
Quick question. When you are repaying those 2 years to the VA , do you get a salary if so what kind of salary do you get?
You do, the salary depends on what kind of contract you negotiate, but it should be appropriate for your level of experience and the location. Typical starting PA salaries (for new grads) can be between $85k-$120k/year depending on specialty and location.
HPSP is not an option for PA school right now.
Oh that’s too bad
Right, only the HSCP is
Good video! So, if I already have a bachelors and want to do PA school but I have a family what’s the best route? Sounds like you can do school and then work at one of the approved underserved area practices and apply for loan repayment? Is that while staying a civilian or enlisting? Can I do the one where I’m enlisted and my time in PA school is counted as enlisted years? I’m still a bit confused 😅
lol lots of questions and definitely need way more details about you to answer any of those questions. Happy to discuss on a zoom call if you would like. www.BorisThePA.com to book a session
Hey Borris I was recently accepted and I was looking into the NHSC program. Do you think in the long run it's worth applying to? because I know they Pay their PAs less than what they would regularly be making.
Hey, congratulations that's amazing!! NHSC sites' salaries are not necessarily lower than jobs that are not at NHSC sites. So at the end of the day, it's a matter of dollars and cents. Let's say an NHSC site pays 90k/year the first year, plus you get that tax-free $25k/year towards your loans. Let's say you're tax bill (very roughly) is 25% including federal/state/SSI/Medicare, so you're making 67,500/year after taxes plus that tax-free 25k, which brings you up to 92,500 after taxes. Then, let's say a non-NHSC job offers you 115k/year, which is only 86,250 after taxes. So a job would have to pay you 124k/year before you end up making the same after taxes that you would get from an NHSC site that pays you 90k... which is about the lowest you should see for a starting PA salary (of course this varies by specialty/location, check the AAPA salary report for details, but this is just a rough estimate). Aaand you're not very likely to be offered 124/year for your first year out of PA school. So I guess what I'm saying is, do the math and you'll find that NHSC does make sense financially in most cases. However, make sure it's the specialty and location you want as well, unless salary and paying down your loans is more important to you than anything else :)
@@BorisThePA Thanks for that detailed response Borris and I just want to thank you for your interview advice. I think that helped me get into PA school and also please continue making youtube videos u are a great inspiration to me!
@@topdawgkilla881 I'm so glad to hear that. I can't wait to start making videos again and I have a LOT to share and talk about. I'm just trying to finish strong and do well on the boards, so the next 2 months or so will be really busy. But once that's over, I'll definitely start making videos again. So happy to hear you're doing well!
@@topdawgkilla881 thanks man, congrats again!
PAs are not paid less. They get paid the same as anyone else.
Does anyone know how competitive getting accepted into the HSCP scholarship ?
Definitely competitive, but like any of these other programs, the application process scares a lot of people away… So if you’re willing to do the work to apply you actually have a decent chance
If I sign up for any of the military programs, do I need to stay clean shaven while in school?
Depends which one! If you’re in ROTC I think you might need to be. If you’re doing any of the other ones I don’t think so
@@BorisThePA for me personally, I'm trying to sign up for the HPSP or HSCP. Just got accepted to PA and trying to do one of those
@@myoldvan119 congrats on your acceptance! no you won't need to be "in regs" during PA school. That starts once you get to officer development school (ODS)
Do you know the autonomy of a physician assistant in the military?
I’m sure it varies greatly depending on your level of experience, your direct supervisor, and many other factors. One former Navy PA I know told me that he had a ton of responsibility and autonomy right out of PA school.
What does a PA military officer do?
Hi Krishna, a PA in the military does everything a PA in the civilian world does plus they are also a military officer so they have additional administrative duties. Depending on their assignment, they might be in charge of a team of nurses and enlisted medical personnel. Of course there are also various deployments such as on US navy ships, overseas bases, and active war zones.
How can international people get recruited in military?
Talk to a recruiter!
I’m very confused….. so the two years of PA school NHSC covers your tuition and gives a stipend but when you start working on the site they also give you 50k on top of your salary?
Good question! So the NHSC is just 50k over 2 years toward your loans and yes that’s on top of a normal salary. But NHSC does not cover your tuition or give you a stipend during school.
The military or VA programs are the ones that cover tuition and give you a housing stipend while you are in school, in exchange for a service commitment after you graduate.
NHSC has a scholarship program & loan repayment. Scholarship is during school and includes covering all of school + $1,400 monthly stipend, then you get paid a normal salary when graduating.
Hi , what does in Soviet Russia taxes pay you means?
It’s just a joke 🤣
My PA school starts in August 2021. When do I apply for VA HPSP?
I would check the website in the info for the video :)
Are there any age limits for military options?
I think it’s 42, but don’t quote me on that. A recruiter can tell you for sure!
Also, more info at navypa.com
@@BorisThePA thank you for the update!
What is the best time to apply for this program.?
Which one Aneeka?
School ship for foreign student?
Not sure
Can civilian apply for this if they are okay with getting into service?
For which one?
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