Really loved the review. I had already backed this grinder and am really excited that the reviews are coming out. On a side note, what was the scale you used to measure tour espresso shot? Keep up the good work!
Hi there! Thank you for the kind words. Congratulations and feel free to share your thoughts here with us once you recieve the grinder, we love to hear feedback from everyone 🤍 The scale was the AKU Mini by Variabrewing.com Feel free to check it and benefit from our Discount Code 👉 OurCoffeeShelter Goodluck! ☕️
Hi there, it is definitely much more enjoyable to use compared to the Sculptor 078S, however the Sculptor 078 might be the better option for filter coffee and we do love the magnet dosing cup there. As for the VS6, it is a tough choice, it will depend on personal preferences and needs, feel free to check our VS6 review for that. 🤍☕️
How's the comparison between this and the 64 model? Can you help me understand where the 64 falls short of the 78 and if it's a "good-enough" grinder for home barista?
Hey there! The 64 model is very similar to the 78 model, just without the RDT lid and with less power motor. It's definitely a good grinder for home barista. We're working on samples and will have demo videos soon showing it in action. Stay tuned! ☕
I was really excited after watching your review but then saw @LanceHedrick’s review and it was like you were reviewing two different grinders. As a consumer about to spend $600 plus I feel like you were misleading at the very least. I like the content you produce but after seeing the disparity I have trouble making a purchase decision off it.. Was it so positive because they paid you to produce it or did you just not have enough time with the grinder due to the rushed production of the video.
Hi there, we stand by our opinion 100% and we will be here when people recieve their grinders to hear the feedback. The Geimori GU78 is 100% the better espresso grinder when compared to the Timemore Sculptor 78s (Espresso Version). Tastewise, practicality, accuracy of grinders adjustments, and even in alignment it is on par with the Timemore. Each person have their own approach in reviewing grinders. In the end, we are here to shed the light and share a brief feedback. A Sponsored video means we invested our time into getting the review ready in short timeframe, apart from that, the company has zero effect on us. We are in this for the passion and we would never corrupt something we are passionate about. Goodluck in making your decision 🤍☕️
Tough comparison. It is more home friendly, but Mazzer dose feel more sturdy, stronger, and you do get the Italian machinery vibe with it 🤍☕️ We have a dedicated video about the Philos if you haven't checked yet 👌
Hi there, we missed that, but you can feel free to check our short version video coming soon with espresso routine with it. It sounds similar to the Gevi Grind Master, which we have a video about and you could check the grinding sound there 🤍☕️
Hi there, for espresso settings, you will never run into an issue. It also has a protection mechanism where once it jams (happened with light roast in Turkish coffee settings), it will run anti-clockwise and run clockwise again. 🤍☕️
The noise it made wasn't very smooth at all across the RPMs, and it is louder than I thought. Instead of a beep sound, maybe a visual light would be better. DF83V is so quiet it can use a beep or light indicator. I wonder if there is data on the DF83V micro steps between markings? Would be nice to know the time difference bewteen to know the range. Well, a much smoother video compared to Lance's..but it looks like this was a improved model.
Hi there, thank you for sharing your thoughts. We did show the extraction difference with the DF83v between each click. We cannot wait for the final Production units to arrive to people ans start hearing their feedback which will confirm with ours ☕️🤍
Hi there, it is not a fair comparison as the Zerno would be double the price. This does not mean that the Zerno doesn't worth it. The zerno craftsmanship and the ability to swap + align the burrs is unbeatable. Tastewise, the difference won't be massive, but the Zerno have the better edge overall.
Hi there, as always, we will keep repeating that you are the judge, we are only here to illustrate the features of the grinder and you are more than welcome to enjoy our simple feedback. In the end people will receive their grinders and they will be able to confirm our opinion, we are not interested in sharing false information, we are in this for the passion in specialty coffee and its tools. We guess that you enjoy our content (that is why you are here sharing your feedback), and you should be pleased when we get some support as it will allow us to test more tools and invest in a wider range of coffee equipments. We have already placed orders for two new grinders so we could create a new video we had in our minds for a long time. Hope you have a positive day ahead! 🤍
@@ourcoffeeshelter What is the point of any of the videos if at the end we "are the judge". The reason we watch videos or read articles is to make the best purchase decision because we don't get free machines, we cannot be the judge of all these machines. We need unbiased reviews to make those decisions.
Hi there, couldn't get our hands on a unit for the current time. It is probably as good as the GU78, but the motor will be a bit weaker, probably super light roasts at lowest rpm might suffer. Nonetheless, we personally enjoy espresso at 800rpm and above 🤍☕️
@@ourcoffeeshelter I find it strange that manufacturers haven't built in slow feeders in to these newer grinders given that there's been plenty of online chat for years about the benefits of slow feeding. It's a massive missed trick.
I am a bit confused. How could the grinder fit timemore sculptor burrs even with two screw holes? It looks to me like the GU78 has a larger inner diameter on the burrs than the Sculptor burrs. Is that true, or are they the same size?
@@Foolsauce Hey, we had a meeting call with Geimori team, and yesterday they informed us that after visiting their factory, they confirmed with their engineers that the possibility of accomadating Timemore burrs is achievable. We understand your concerns, but they will probably create a modular burr carrier for that case or some removable pieces. We will wait to hear more from them 🤍☕️
Kinda looks like a train and I can’t ever not see that. The community is a little concern because it’s not a well known company and there’s few in depth reviews.
Hi there, yes, it has many similarities, but at the same time each grinder feels different. We can say that with the updated grinding dial, it is one of the easiest grinders to reset the zero point and to swap the burrs. Also it will offer both these Multipurpose burrs + the option of Timemore and SSP 78mm burrs.
Hi there, grinders will be out eventually and people will share their opinion too, we are completely confident with our feedback and you are more than welcome to check back here once Kickstarter backers have their grinders delivered. Hope you have a positive day ahead ☕️🤍
Hi there, we kindly ask you not share fake information. The alignment is just as good as all the grinders in the same price range and the same category. This is a prototype and we were still very happy with the results tastewise in both espresso and filter. We have tested more than 8kg of coffee beans by now and we are 100💯 completely confident in our feedback and we stand by it. You are more than welcome to share your opinion and feedback, but kindly do not mislead people. We stand here and we will be here when people get their units and share their feedback with us, we are not going anyway and we cannot wait to hear their feedback.
@ourcoffeeshelter I'm simply relaying the information that was made clear yesterday. I apologize if this is not acceptable discourse to you. Thank you for your review (if sponsored videos count as reviews).
@@shaheerrahman4278 Hi there, please, no need to apologise, you are more than welcome to share your opinion. We love it when we get sponsored videos as this means we will be able to invest more budget into testing a wider range of tools and sharing it with everyone. We do not agree on Sponsership unless we test the item first. We prefer to invest our own budget and the support we get from companies who appreciate our hard work rather than asking friends to support us with their money. We want people to invest their money in buying the tools that they believe will bring them happiness, make an educated decision, we are only here to shed the light. Hope you have a lovely day ahead 🤍☕️
@@ourcoffeeshelter I just honestly find issue with the fact that you argue I'm spreading false information. Even if the model tested in this video had 100% perfect alignment and tolerances (which I am doubtful of), the fact that they were willing to send other reviewers units that have loose augers and misalignment speaks VOLUMES about future quality control issues, especially with a Kickstarter project that is untested by consumers. Furthermore, even in this video, you state that the company told you adding a magnet to the catch cup could cause quality control and manufacturing issues. A magnet. If a magnet is able to cause issues in their manufacturing that too speaks volumes about their QC standards.
How come it's identical to the Sculptor? The design is apparently different, the burrs are totally different, and there is static control, while the Sculptor has none!
@@hihihkkkIt has no more static control then what a mechanical solution would not achieve. so it has exactly the same control of the sculpture, the sculpture just has a more mechanical approach that actually works. The biggest and largely only plus is that this isn’t a nightmare to get into the burrs on. People put to much emphasis on plasma generators it only effect the grind after it exit the burrs, however some grind tend to stick around the place were it sits.
Hi there, we are unable to satisfy everyone's needs. majority of people would love to dive into the details of each grinder. If you are happy with watching 1 minute, you could skip to the end, or check the parts that matters to you.
Really loved the review. I had already backed this grinder and am really excited that the reviews are coming out. On a side note, what was the scale you used to measure tour espresso shot? Keep up the good work!
Hi there! Thank you for the kind words. Congratulations and feel free to share your thoughts here with us once you recieve the grinder, we love to hear feedback from everyone 🤍
The scale was the AKU Mini by Variabrewing.com
Feel free to check it and benefit from our Discount Code 👉 OurCoffeeShelter
Goodluck! ☕️
Hey, David, thank you so much for back us!🙏
Good luck for ever ❤
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When is this alignment tool from grinding labs for the Sculptor Series is available?
This seems like a nice grinder how does it compare to the varia6 and sculpture 78
Thank you
Hi there, it is definitely much more enjoyable to use compared to the Sculptor 078S, however the Sculptor 078 might be the better option for filter coffee and we do love the magnet dosing cup there.
As for the VS6, it is a tough choice, it will depend on personal preferences and needs, feel free to check our VS6 review for that. 🤍☕️
@@ourcoffeeshelter i think VS6 have more versality with interchangeable burrs set from Flat to Conical Burr. It will be more fun to using it.
I couldn't really tell what the outside shell material is made from. Is it plastic or a powder coated metal?
Hi Gary, most of our parts are made by metal. The shell material is made of aluminum with black powder coated.
Wanna see a review of the cf64v. Any idea when that will drop?
At this very moment shoot a video, after this one we will get the CF64v, hopefully within a week will be ready 🤍☕️
@ourcoffeeshelter fantastic, I think I'm mainly worried about the sound it makes from what I've seen so far.. But I'm stoked to hear what you think.
@@tigerag29607 Glad to hear that, we will get it shared soon, doing our best ☕️🤍
How's the comparison between this and the 64 model? Can you help me understand where the 64 falls short of the 78 and if it's a "good-enough" grinder for home barista?
Hey there!
The 64 model is very similar to the 78 model, just without the RDT lid and with less power motor. It's definitely a good grinder for home barista.
We're working on samples and will have demo videos soon showing it in action. Stay tuned! ☕
I was really excited after watching your review but then saw @LanceHedrick’s review and it was like you were reviewing two different grinders. As a consumer about to spend $600 plus I feel like you were misleading at the very least. I like the content you produce but after seeing the disparity I have trouble making a purchase decision off it.. Was it so positive because they paid you to produce it or did you just not have enough time with the grinder due to the rushed production of the video.
Hi there, we stand by our opinion 100% and we will be here when people recieve their grinders to hear the feedback.
The Geimori GU78 is 100% the better espresso grinder when compared to the Timemore Sculptor 78s (Espresso Version). Tastewise, practicality, accuracy of grinders adjustments, and even in alignment it is on par with the Timemore.
Each person have their own approach in reviewing grinders. In the end, we are here to shed the light and share a brief feedback.
A Sponsored video means we invested our time into getting the review ready in short timeframe, apart from that, the company has zero effect on us. We are in this for the passion and we would never corrupt something we are passionate about.
Goodluck in making your decision 🤍☕️
How would you compare this to the mazzer philos?
Tough comparison. It is more home friendly, but Mazzer dose feel more sturdy, stronger, and you do get the Italian machinery vibe with it 🤍☕️
We have a dedicated video about the Philos if you haven't checked yet 👌
☕❤️☕ Love Is Important .....
@@bjfeerus indeed! ☕️🤍
17 min no grinding beans sound. Real performance.
Hi there, we missed that, but you can feel free to check our short version video coming soon with espresso routine with it.
It sounds similar to the Gevi Grind Master, which we have a video about and you could check the grinding sound there 🤍☕️
@@ourcoffeeshelter Just don't use any sound over it.... please?
How does the grinder fare with ultra hard beans at low rpm and finest setting? ;)
Hi there, for espresso settings, you will never run into an issue. It also has a protection mechanism where once it jams (happened with light roast in Turkish coffee settings), it will run anti-clockwise and run clockwise again. 🤍☕️
Congratulations on the excellent analysis, with great detail.
Thank you, glad to hear that you have enjoyed it! We will keep it up 🤍☕️
The noise it made wasn't very smooth at all across the RPMs, and it is louder than I thought. Instead of a beep sound, maybe a visual light would be better. DF83V is so quiet it can use a beep or light indicator. I wonder if there is data on the DF83V micro steps between markings? Would be nice to know the time difference bewteen to know the range.
Well, a much smoother video compared to Lance's..but it looks like this was a improved model.
Hi there, thank you for sharing your thoughts. We did show the extraction difference with the DF83v between each click. We cannot wait for the final Production units to arrive to people ans start hearing their feedback which will confirm with ours ☕️🤍
What do you think about this vs the Zerno?
Hi there, it is not a fair comparison as the Zerno would be double the price. This does not mean that the Zerno doesn't worth it. The zerno craftsmanship and the ability to swap + align the burrs is unbeatable. Tastewise, the difference won't be massive, but the Zerno have the better edge overall.
Not really an unbiased review when it's sponsored...
Hi there, as always, we will keep repeating that you are the judge, we are only here to illustrate the features of the grinder and you are more than welcome to enjoy our simple feedback. In the end people will receive their grinders and they will be able to confirm our opinion, we are not interested in sharing false information, we are in this for the passion in specialty coffee and its tools. We guess that you enjoy our content (that is why you are here sharing your feedback), and you should be pleased when we get some support as it will allow us to test more tools and invest in a wider range of coffee equipments. We have already placed orders for two new grinders so we could create a new video we had in our minds for a long time.
Hope you have a positive day ahead! 🤍
@@ourcoffeeshelter What is the point of any of the videos if at the end we "are the judge". The reason we watch videos or read articles is to make the best purchase decision because we don't get free machines, we cannot be the judge of all these machines. We need unbiased reviews to make those decisions.
Any opinion on the GU64?
Hi there, couldn't get our hands on a unit for the current time. It is probably as good as the GU78, but the motor will be a bit weaker, probably super light roasts at lowest rpm might suffer.
Nonetheless, we personally enjoy espresso at 800rpm and above 🤍☕️
Slow feeding on this doesn't look easy?
Why not ?
@ourcoffeeshelter because the auger is really small and you need to have it fully open while feeding. Does it popcorn? If not then maybe it is good.
@@c0mbat15 Hey there, you could just pour slowly from top of the hopper if you wish to
@@ourcoffeeshelter I find it strange that manufacturers haven't built in slow feeders in to these newer grinders given that there's been plenty of online chat for years about the benefits of slow feeding. It's a massive missed trick.
This is huge. 064 is more my vibe. I hope you can compare it with Sculptor.
I am a bit confused. How could the grinder fit timemore sculptor burrs even with two screw holes? It looks to me like the GU78 has a larger inner diameter on the burrs than the Sculptor burrs. Is that true, or are they the same size?
@@Foolsauce Hey, we had a meeting call with Geimori team, and yesterday they informed us that after visiting their factory, they confirmed with their engineers that the possibility of accomadating Timemore burrs is achievable. We understand your concerns, but they will probably create a modular burr carrier for that case or some removable pieces. We will wait to hear more from them 🤍☕️
They should probably better use the Timemore two screw holes system, so burrs between SSP, Timemore and Wirsh would easily be interchangeable.
Hey we are working on it, will post a video once the verification is finish.
@@m.brechi2861 We are able to adapt two and three holes burrs, will post a video once we finish the verification.
The thing is, I would also like to mount your burrs into my 078s, which will not be possible. @@mywirsh
Kinda looks like a train and I can’t ever not see that. The community is a little concern because it’s not a well known company and there’s few in depth reviews.
I wish you didn‘t point out the train similarity 😂 Now I cannot unsee it either…
Nice
Thank You!
it looks like a modified version of timemore 78S
Hi there, yes, it has many similarities, but at the same time each grinder feels different.
We can say that with the updated grinding dial, it is one of the easiest grinders to reset the zero point and to swap the burrs.
Also it will offer both these Multipurpose burrs + the option of Timemore and SSP 78mm burrs.
This grinder will be such a fail. Watch Lance hedricks review if you wanna watch an unbiased review. This is gonns be so bad.
Hi there, grinders will be out eventually and people will share their opinion too, we are completely confident with our feedback and you are more than welcome to check back here once Kickstarter backers have their grinders delivered.
Hope you have a positive day ahead ☕️🤍
I probably won't believe in your reviews any longer 😢@@ourcoffeeshelter
The alignment is terrible. Like not even passable. Please nobody buy this.
Hi there, we kindly ask you not share fake information. The alignment is just as good as all the grinders in the same price range and the same category. This is a prototype and we were still very happy with the results tastewise in both espresso and filter.
We have tested more than 8kg of coffee beans by now and we are 100💯 completely confident in our feedback and we stand by it. You are more than welcome to share your opinion and feedback, but kindly do not mislead people. We stand here and we will be here when people get their units and share their feedback with us, we are not going anyway and we cannot wait to hear their feedback.
@ourcoffeeshelter I'm simply relaying the information that was made clear yesterday. I apologize if this is not acceptable discourse to you. Thank you for your review (if sponsored videos count as reviews).
@@shaheerrahman4278 Hi there, please, no need to apologise, you are more than welcome to share your opinion. We love it when we get sponsored videos as this means we will be able to invest more budget into testing a wider range of tools and sharing it with everyone.
We do not agree on Sponsership unless we test the item first. We prefer to invest our own budget and the support we get from companies who appreciate our hard work rather than asking friends to support us with their money.
We want people to invest their money in buying the tools that they believe will bring them happiness, make an educated decision, we are only here to shed the light.
Hope you have a lovely day ahead 🤍☕️
@@ourcoffeeshelter I just honestly find issue with the fact that you argue I'm spreading false information. Even if the model tested in this video had 100% perfect alignment and tolerances (which I am doubtful of), the fact that they were willing to send other reviewers units that have loose augers and misalignment speaks VOLUMES about future quality control issues, especially with a Kickstarter project that is untested by consumers. Furthermore, even in this video, you state that the company told you adding a magnet to the catch cup could cause quality control and manufacturing issues. A magnet. If a magnet is able to cause issues in their manufacturing that too speaks volumes about their QC standards.
All these chinese grinders look like its skinned and white labeled at the same factory. This looks identitcal to the sculptor.
Well, the sculptor looks like this
How come it's identical to the Sculptor? The design is apparently different, the burrs are totally different, and there is static control, while the Sculptor has none!
@@hihihkkkIt has no more static control then what a mechanical solution would not achieve. so it has exactly the same control of the sculpture, the sculpture just has a more mechanical approach that actually works. The biggest and largely only plus is that this isn’t a nightmare to get into the burrs on. People put to much emphasis on plasma generators it only effect the grind after it exit the burrs, however some grind tend to stick around the place were it sits.
again my comment is the same
17 minute video for a grinder
not acceptable
as earlier i said on the milk frothing video
Hi there, we are unable to satisfy everyone's needs. majority of people would love to dive into the details of each grinder. If you are happy with watching 1 minute, you could skip to the end, or check the parts that matters to you.
Huh? You can't watch a 17 minute video if you're planning on spending $650 on a grinder?
wow, entitled much?
@@ourcoffeeshelter 17min is not long.. 70 min pls next time haha