Caprica Six had lived among humans, getting to know them in a way her space-bound brethren didn't, so she had much more exposure to them. Exposure to another culture usually helps us learn to know them and to see our similarities as well as our differences, differences we focus on when we don't know the similarities. I think that gave Caprica a better handle on Cylons and Humans alike so she saw how they could be SO similar. She began to sympathize with them after the fall of the Colonies and in a later episode, expresses regret that she did what she did and that she finds it difficult to live with that knowledge.
I absolutely love this scene. “How did you find us?”. Brilliant. Baltar basically sold out humanity twice and only he knows it. Also, the weight of the world rests on Adamas shoulders. He left the colonials behind. The smartest thing to be done. Live to fight another day.
@@Wolfspaule yet without him the Colonials would have died in the miniseries. Helo wasn't tricked - yet he snatched the human victory out of their hands. It's Helo that I hate. Baltar wasn't evil - only dumb. Helo was evil.
@@nehorlavazapalkaI always forget he literally cured cancer and it’s barley brought up after other than him saying he saved roslins life for the 200th time
If Admiral Cain was still in command of the Pegasus and the fleet, she would've fought and lost both ships in this situation. Adama made the tough, but correct call to jump away.
That or she would have left and never come back. She was more than willing to abandon civilian vessels and passengers she could have formed into her own Galactica style convoy before.
Nah she would have left with Lee she was all about survival. She canabalised a civilian fleet of a few thousand much smaller than the galactica fleet. Letting civilians be abandoned to die. Without doubt shed jump with the 10,000 people in orbit and say au revoir to the people on the planet. Would have meant a civil war between Lee and Bill forces against Cain backed forces in the fleet which would dictate whether the battlestars ever return to evacuate the survivors. Would probably have been fun
One thing I love about this is that it kind of hints at something I wish would come into play more for shows with faster than light travel: if you can outrun light you can glimpse at the history of different parts of the universe by looking at the light they send out. It’s something I wish would come into play on shows like Star Trek. Have you found the ruins of a civilization and want to start guessing what happened? Figure out when and where the light from the time period from question would have been bounced to, warp there, and point your telescopes and EM sensors. It wouldn’t be perfect, but I’m sure there’s a lot a sophisticated society could glean from this.
Its not that easy - light can dissipate, get warped by substantially massive celestial bodies. Also, a thing called albedo decides, just how much light is reflected. It would definitely will be possible to an extent, should superluminal travel be possible.
The New Caprica arc has always been one of my favorite parts of this show. Battlestar Galactica is still one of the best shows ever made. There's no need to reboot it.
I like how it's primarily a six episode story arc, but there are two episodes after dealing with a lot of the fallout but it also affects the characters in other ways and there is another episode showing a lot of what happened during the time skip. As opposed to when a sci-fi show is episodic, it wraps up the story in 45 minutes, then doesn't mention it again.
Definitely the best show I ever watched. What I wonder though is the fact that nobody, ABSOLUTELY NOBODY thought about the fact that "hey, is there any chance that nuke that just went off right next to the planet could be detected by the cylons, because if so, maybe we shouldn't stay here."
True. Or at the very least, thought to operate fully manned Battlestars (requiring less than 8% of the population) in order to allow them to protect what they were building.
@@darkjediknight2923 Never thought it about it like that lol, 8% wouldn't be that hard to get for what the job is, in fact in the year they were there they could have had massive recruitment and training drive so that deployments could be done on a rotation and give personnel more R&R time. I think when Adama roasts Lee for being too soft it is also commentary on the military at the time as well, they had become too soft after finding New Caprica, let their guard down and unfortunately paid the price.
@@BojackatronHorsemaniac Not to mention the fact they could have spent that year trying to hammer out the dings in both Battlestars. Plus, they could have put Pegasus' foundries to use and started replacing the Vipers they lost. Imagine both ships having wings of combat ready Mk VIIs ready to go!
Well, it all started with the fact that New Caprica was NOT suitable for colonization. The survivors would eventually die from cold and hunger, if not for Cylons forcing them to run again..
@@AuroraAustralis_ In this series the military answers to the civilians, so I wouldn't be surprised if the onboard resources of the battlestars were devoted to civilian production, by order of President Me First Baltar. I am surprised that the Cylons didn't move the civilians back to one of the 12 colonies, where it would be logistically simpler to support and defend them. Presumably the Cylons were using the New Caprica colony as bait, though if so they didn't keep nearly enough ships around to ensure success.
@M J no, actually the Peg is a straight upgrade in every aspect. Its just that it has zero luck with its commanders. Cain got caught pants down in drydock, barely made it out with a ship not fully crewed and not supplied, then went on a rampage in the colonies, apparently mostly targeting her own allies, then went and died and left the ship to fisk. Whose only commendable action was getting killed. Then they made the egghead the New captain who immediately let The pegasus into an Ambush because YES OF COURSE WE GO ON SEARCH AND RESCUE WITH THE WHOLE FUCKING SHIP instead of, yknow, another raptor. So he dies making sure the pegasus can escape the situation of getting piled on by basestars. Then there is Lee, whose idea of a fight is going full jem'har'dar without delay. Never go full jem'har'dar. In gegeral the whole space part of that rescue was poorly planned.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 he wanted his dad back. Tbh a great commander like adama was worth the sacrifice, what's the point of having a powerful ship when theres no one skilled enough to run it. Adama proved that by protecting the fleet for years in the Galactica
And ironically Starbuck never ends up fighting because Leoben suddenly developed an obsession that it took three more years to find out how that came about.
Probably the single most terrifying sequence of the entire series. The overwhelming power of the Cylon spacecraft roaring by overhead, one after another, followed by the long parade of foot soldier robots. And the looks on the face of the Colonials. Epic.
For a contemporary analogy imagine the people of the Ukrainian city of Kherson when it was overrun early in the Russia-Ukraine war (also through betrayal I should note). I'd been there pre-war and met many people and have wondered how exactly they felt and whether they survived.
yep they wanted to make an analogy to the occupation of Iraq more than making a story that had a sensible progression from beginning to end. In the end, they ended the occupation storyline and it was back to cylons chasing down the humans again.
@@jmnnl2279 , the show's opening had wording explaining the history between the humans and Cylons. It ended with "...and they have a plan." In the beginning, the plan was simple and obvious: eradicate humanity. But when they had the survivors trapped on New Caprica, they began arguing amongst themselves about what to do with the humans. This gave the humans time to come up with their own "plan".
It was a difficult, but necessary choice. They'd been sitting idle above the planet since they got there, running with a skeleton crew and going soft from lack of action. They were going up against 5 base ships and hundreds of raiders. The Cylons would have tore through them in no time. They had to run, get themselves fighting fit and then prep to come back to rescue the ones left behind.
If I recall I think this season ended in the fall and I remember season 3 was set for October of the next year. I remember my mom saying what a whole year lol
I honestly never really got the point of the Cylon Occupation. If the Cylons gave everyone a penthouse to live in, gourmet meals, made New Caprica more hospitable and actually made human life better (which Caprica and Sharon seemed really gung ho about) I think that would’ve been a lot more interesting of a story. Also, you think the Cylons would be smart enough to disassemble the ships instead of just take the keys so there was absolutely 0 chance of escape. But as we’ve seen throughout the series, Cylons are remarkably, plot-conveniently stupid I also never really felt like the Cylons even really wanted to be there in the first place. They were an inch away from pulling the plug on the whole thing
The reason was they wanted to do an iraqi occupation story which was incompatible with their prior stated goals. They wanted to show what it was like to be on the side of the suicide bombers resisting occupation, nevermind that suicide attacks against robots is stupid.
Great point. I also wonder why everyone hated Baltar after this, and why everyone was so devastated when the Cylons arrived. It’s not like the humans had created something great. The Cylons didn’t even make things worse for them. Also, why would the Cylons want to be there? What was to gain? Nothing. In fact, it would just be a bummer hanging out with those losers. Would’ve been easier to nuke them, and boogie on after Galactica.
@@gregorymuir1985 Suicide attacks against robots designed to look, and most importantly, feel like humans. Although they were immortal thanks to the ressurection ships, they still feel the pain and trauma of injuries and death. The resistance hoped that the cylons would eventually grow tired of it and leave. The suicide bombings also warned the other humans not to collaborate with the cylons.
@@rinse-esnir4010 the problem is that the cylons original goal was to wipe out all of humanity as they demonstrated in the first episode. Them getting tired of it would likely lead them back to that original objective. They would likely just nuke the place as they left. So a pretty stupid idea on the part of the resistance since there was little incentive for the cylons to leave and keep the humans alive if they bothered them too much.
@@RoninDave Depends on what you would prefer: living in the occupation hell or being nuked. I don't think the humans expected to survive the occupation anyway. Lee even considered never coming back to rescue them.
When you think about it, the only reason why they got out of this mess was because Adama refused to abandon the watch when most of the people settled at new caprica. Imagin Adama also settled and left the post. Truly game over. His "stubbornness" for security and safety kept the crew of Galactica alive during initial invasion and so on.
I know they wanted to do an Iraq War commentary (which was very well done and very timely given the historical context of the show), but it would've been even more interesting if the Cylon occupation, despite its brutal repression of any resistance, had actually been "successful" - e.g. the Cylons with their advanced industry had substantially improved human quality of life, assigning them their own Centurion servants, the humans don't even need to work, being put up in elegant penthouses, building excellent infrastructure, etc. In other words, the humans on New Caprica had everything provided materially but had no free will. This would've allowed them to explore the dilemma of sacrificing liberty for economic security and comfort (i.e. a parody more of modern China than of 2000s Iraq). This also would've made the decision of many humans to collaborate with the Cylons genuinely understandable and realistic, thereby presenting a much more difficult moral dilemma. It also would've made the Cylon disillusionment with humanity more plausible: "We gave them everything and they still, by their nature, prefer to fight us and live in poverty." Given that Cylon culture is collectivist, this is something they would genuinely struggle to understand or forgive. It would make Boomer's rejection of humanity's worthiness of survival much more believable. And it would give us some way of empathising with Cavill's position (while the themes on the "price of free will" would be in keeping with the show's religious themes), which would make the show more narratively complex. Simply making Cavill "evil" was a weakness in the show.
The Cylons improving their standard of living would have been a great detail, though I'd argue the part about the Centurion servants must be put away. The Cylons rebelled specifically to avoid becoming slaves again (with the added irony of then creating artificial humans that then just ended up enslaving them again). During the occupation many Cylons would be up in arms about what's the point pampering the humans, their original slavers, when that would be generally perceived as an uncomfortable throwback to the past. I'd think letting the humans care for themselves, but under Cylon supervision, was the compromise all the various Cylon factions came up with to test whether living together with humans was possible, but without making it look like being subservient to them.
I love when Laura looks into the camera as if she was saying I knew this would happen they should have listened. If this was Star Trek then Galactica would be beaming everyone up before the Cylons landed.
I remember seeing this on TV I loved it from the first time I saw the miniseries I didn't know if it's actual TV series was going to start at the time but I know it could be special and it ended up being very special I liked it all the way up into the last episode I love the series The Emotions the way the characters portrayed themselves everything about the show was just above standard.
Even though I hate Baltar he did the right thing. There was nothing he could have done at that point. They could only submit and hope a resistance is formed and wait for Adama to get back.
Baltar caused the entire thing. Allowed the Cylons to disable all human security, then allowed hot cylon to have a nuclear bomb, and said nuclear bomb gave away their position on New Caprica.
Earlier in the show they were able to get to Condition 1 in less than a min. I love how the crew brings up the fact that they took way, WAY too long to get to battle stations.
I think the only thing that stooped this show from having the highest ratings ever on IMDB and the likes is the fact that it’s a reboot and some die-hard fans of the original knock it down. In a parallel universe where the Ron Moore reboot was the ONLY BSG, it would score higher. I’ve never seen a better, more all-encompassing show, covering so many especially of humanity and human nature. People say The Wire is essential viewing in that regard but BSG goes much further. Caprica is also a great watch, once it gets going. It’s so clever and fills in a lot of background story about how the Cylons were created. The way the season ended was incredible and set itself up for an amazing second season which sadly never happened. The only good that came out of it not being renewed is that Moore made Outlander, a show literally the EXACT opposite of BSG. BSG was all dark and metal, Outlander is all beautiful natural scenery. BSG is about humanity, Outlander is essentially about just two people. My two all-time favourite shows, and both made by the same guy. Incredible.
Who remembers the Rosalin Baltar debate. Rosalin said the colonial fleet shouldn’t yet settle on a planet that the cylons could find, and Baltar brushed it off as fear mongering. Then this happens. You’re a mistake Baltar.
As a kid, I hated Balter because who the frack doesn't in this series? But as an adult, and now a writer myself, I've come to really appreciate Balter's character and James Calus's portrayal. He can be a really uncomfortable protagonist at times, and this scene really portrays that in full. The realization that the nuke is his fault. The double realization that his only rational choice as a character is to surrender just for the very distant chance that humanity might survive because in this instance outright resistance is futile. Gods I fracking love this show...
I have always thought that sacrificing yourself and your command for no other reason than to avoid living as the conquered is stupid. Sure if it helps others escape or something, but once you are dead that is is, game over for you. As long as you are alive there is a chance. One of the reasons I really hate Killmonger's speech at the end of "Black Panther".
Love the story or not, the best thing about the occupation by the Cylons was that it led to the Adama Maneuver ....one of the most badass scenes in sci-fi history!
I always found it unfortunate that they decided to go CGI with the Centurions, which meant that the audience didn't end up seeing hordes of the "foot soldiers" very often...presumably there were far more of them than there were of the other models, but you rarely get a sense of that watching the show.
It's not unfortunate, it was a good thing. As RDM pointed out, even the skinniest human waist is still human and has a certain shape to it especially when you plaster over it a metallic costume. By going CG they could make the centurions more menacing by not giving them human proportions. So this was a good use of CGI because it made the centurions feel less human because they weren't constrained by real human anatomy.
@@Jaknize1 I won't argue that the CGI centurions LOOKED GOOD, they did, but as a kid, the way they had shots in the basestars of groups marching around, likely multiple shots of the same eight guys but still, I always had the sense of just vast numbers of Cylons, like in a war of attrition humanity was utterly screwed. I just never got that sense visually in the reboot. With the centurions...they always did a good job of showing absolute swarms of raiders.
I also would have liked more footsoliders, having practical effects while maybe limited visually, are far cheaper and easier to film, Beside I rather like the look of the original soliders anyway. Also miss the "By your command" They used to say alot.
Only one. They settle down on New Caprica and stay for one year before the Cylons arrive, having been one light year away when they detected the nuclear detonation of Cloud 9. The Cylons land and occupy New Caprica for an additional 4 months before the Exodus when Galactica and Pegasus return to evacuate the planet. @@ryans413
Being in atmosphere, this is probably the first time a lot of the Colonials are hearing the scary drone of Raider engines. Such a good sound to display potential doom
lets see: Power station: that could probably have been done Brick/mortar housing: I don't know if the fleet had any tools for building structures on the ground If not, they may just not have the tools to do it right now. That and even if they did, they would be in limited availability and unable to provide houses for everyone in the span of just a year (a house takes a few months to build irl) planetary defenses: flat out no. They had no spare guns that would work as a ground to space artillery nor the means to produce them or the ammunition for them (about the only thing they can build is Vipers and maybe battlestar ammo thanks to the Pegasus). That, and if planetary defenses had to be in use, that would mean the two battlestars were insufficient already.. and that means they would be boned planetary defenses or not. That and in the span of just one year.. wouldn't be enough for an effective defense to be built even if they had what they needed on hand. the rivers: its even baffling that they wouldn't go for this
No, because President Baltar had other priorities--he, himself, and him. But, the people voted for him, and that's all that mattered. And they got what they deserved.
@@TommygunNG If I'm not mistaken though, there is an episode with flashbacks which do show a ceremony with President Baltar getting spades into the ground to build the first set of New Caprica City housing projects. Whilst he might have focused on self preservation, he did seem to genuinely care about the survival of humanity and progress. It sounds like a lot of humanity were also lazy and didn't have a sense of urgency (the scene about telling the unions to do some work for a change). I'm not entirely sure why they didn't build the main settlement closer to the river that you see during the Resistance arc either since that looked far more hospitable.
@@darkjediknight2923 He only cared about CYA. Even to the degree he may have practiced some enlightened self-interest, he was still too busy with the far more prominent scenes of wine, women, and song. I recall years ago the mistress of some multi-billionaire Greek guy said she knew his business would collapse because he spent more time on her than on his business. (Literally! She even said she now had back problems as a result.) ---- As for specific scenes: Baltar didn't even devote resources to repairing the Galactica. Recall the scene of Adama walking past sparking open wires.
Add further to that: Power Station: Could use one of the ships and cannibalize it. Only issue is fuel and New Caprica doesn't seems to have much tylium so once the resevres are gone, that would be it. So short term yes, long term no unless they found another sustainable way to make power. Brick/mortar building: Not gonna happen. How many people in the Fleet would have the technical knowledge required to build a house? Assuming you had the resources, you still need people who know about construction, electricians, bricklayers for example. About 30 000 people live in New Caprica City and doubt more than 1% would have the skills and experience needed. Then you gotta pay them, you gotta train new people. Not possible to do it within a year or even 10 years with finite resources. Planetary Defences. They have 2 half-strength Battlestars and that's it. Besides that, the whole point they settled on New Caprica is becaused it was assumed that the Cylons wouldn't be able to find it. Planetary defences would have just been advertising to the voting public that the planet 'could' be detected and hence not as safe or secure as people were lead to believe in the election.
No, they didn’t stick the landing, and that’s unfortunate. But when BSG was on its game it was as good as anything on television. Watching the series in its first run, I had assumed that the first season finale couldn’t be bettered as a cliffhanger. I was wrong.
@@baybarsedturner2 Season 3 went off the rails after the New Caprica/Exodus arc. The gritty realism the show had been known for disappeared with the Pegasus.
Adama's fault for giving a civilian (who could have been a Cylon) a fully functional unguarded nuclear warhead, when all that was needed was a microgram of plutonium. Of course no responsible military commander would do such a thing, but BSG was more about drama than logic.
Oddly enough, this may have been the last episode I ever watched of the series. It was a fantastic series in space, but I remember they found some dreary sub-standard planet to colonize and abandoned their original quest, and then were instantly invaded by the Cylons and found it ridiculous. Now I want to go back and finish the series.
There is one thing i dislike about this : Anders was sick. Proving that up to this point, he wan't supposed to be a cylon. Boomer couldn't be sick no cylons excepts Anders was shown sick. (unless of course you count highly intoxicated or aging to be a sickness.)
Why does Dualla have Colonel rank insignias as a Lieutenant? Edit: I also find it strange that the Galactica jumped before all the civilian ships had jumped away, though I'm under the impression that the Pegasus was possibly the last to jump given we never see an FTL flash from it before the camera pans away.
I remember playing Deadlock a few years back and I always HATED hearing Intel about a Basestar Fleet and it's escorts moving anywhere near one of my fleets. I had two Minervas and a few Rangers as my heavy hitters and I STILL got nervous facing down a Basestar Fleet.
They all thought they tricked the Cylons they where living on this planet for a few years by this time most the people started making there way down to the planet and living there that’s why the ship is undermanned here.
A big mistake made was allowing the colonists to become too comfortable, also not establishing a military ground base. With hidden military storage locations.
Woof, the President is crying during a time of crisis? Wrong vote! Poor Gaius, everything he has done has either screwed all of humanity..........or I guess saved Roslin?
You know, everyone always felt sorry for Gina Six (Pegasus) because she was so abused and all that, which I do abhor because abuse is never the answer, but she was a self-described, avowed Cylon soldier with a mission to carry out. She didn't succeed on the Pegasus but she did ultimately succeed in betraying Humanity by blowing up Cloud Nine and leading the other Cylons to humankind's location. Humanity would have been safe on New Caprica had she not done that. I'm not saying she necessarily deserved what happened to her on Pegasus. I do think that she wasn't the pitiful figure everyone makes her out as.
@@TheLandy94 Oh absolutely Baltar was equally guilty if not completely at fault. He gave a Cylon with a death wish a nuclear warhead. How stupid was that, you know?
I know the fans would've been outraged at the time, but it would've been really ballsy if the writers had actually had the guts to write out half the cast in one fell swoop and have the remnants of the fleet actually leave and not come back, while the cylons nuked the planet from orbit, it would've completed Baltars arc much better in my opinion, I feel like this season ender separates the fantastic first half of the series from the "meh" (with a few bright spots) second half.
I believe the context to him saying "I surrender" rather than "we surrender" was that he was placing responsibility for the Colonial's surrender on his shoulders alone.
The show explains that Cylons are extremely capable when it comes to hacking and infiltrating Colonial computer systems. So they avoid all forms of wireless intership communication and stick to hard lines for everything, to minimize the impact a Cylon breach would have.
One of the things I hated about New Caprica was that the settlement just didn't make sense. Why weren't they settled on the rivers? Why were there power stations and more permanent housing, even wooden ones? Why not scrap ships in order to create housing and other necessary buildings? They'd been there for a year. It doesn't make sense that there was no attempt at making actually decent living conditions for the people.
Because Baltar was too busy having s*x with women and taking pills, Zarek was doing whatever he was doing with the Quorum, and the fact that most of the structures they tried to construct likely kept collapsing because of where they built the city in the first place.
It's found out later that Adama had set up a vast plan for such an event, including planetary resistance and an eventual rescue. But maybe he should have developed a different plan as he saw Baltar's ineptness and corruption, and the people not standing against it (despite being armed): Have certain key personnel--like Tigh, Starbuck, Chief, and their immediate circles--meet in a certain place and time. Then have Raptors jump in, rescue them, and jump out, leaving a note: "So long, suckers. You got what you voted for."
My favourite thing about this scene is how nervous Caprica Six is. She clearly doesn't want Gaius or any of the humans harmed
her and the eight, the war heroes
Caprica is far better than the angel who impersonated her in Gaius' mind.
Caprica Six had lived among humans, getting to know them in a way her space-bound brethren didn't, so she had much more exposure to them. Exposure to another culture usually helps us learn to know them and to see our similarities as well as our differences, differences we focus on when we don't know the similarities. I think that gave Caprica a better handle on Cylons and Humans alike so she saw how they could be SO similar. She began to sympathize with them after the fall of the Colonies and in a later episode, expresses regret that she did what she did and that she finds it difficult to live with that knowledge.
Living amongst people doesn't have that effect at all. But it is a nice bedtime story for retards who've never done so.
IS this Caprica Six ? Or is this the Six he rescued from The Pegasus? The Six from the Pegasus is the one who set off the bomb that led them there.
I absolutely love this scene. “How did you find us?”. Brilliant. Baltar basically sold out humanity twice and only he knows it. Also, the weight of the world rests on Adamas shoulders. He left the colonials behind. The smartest thing to be done. Live to fight another day.
I hate Baltar soo much!
@@Wolfspaule yet without him the Colonials would have died in the miniseries. Helo wasn't tricked - yet he snatched the human victory out of their hands. It's Helo that I hate. Baltar wasn't evil - only dumb. Helo was evil.
And yet Baltar wasn’t dealt with any of the numerous chances they had to.
@@nehorlavazapalkaI always forget he literally cured cancer and it’s barley brought up after other than him saying he saved roslins life for the 200th time
If Admiral Cain was still in command of the Pegasus and the fleet, she would've fought and lost both ships in this situation. Adama made the tough, but correct call to jump away.
That or she would have left and never come back. She was more than willing to abandon civilian vessels and passengers she could have formed into her own Galactica style convoy before.
He rolled the hard eight.
Admiral Cain would not have allowed settlement of New Caprica-Democracy or not.
@@falcore91 She was a fucking Psycho with none of the Zeal or Panache of Loydd Bridges portray of the living legion
Nah she would have left with Lee she was all about survival. She canabalised a civilian fleet of a few thousand much smaller than the galactica fleet. Letting civilians be abandoned to die.
Without doubt shed jump with the 10,000 people in orbit and say au revoir to the people on the planet.
Would have meant a civil war between Lee and Bill forces against Cain backed forces in the fleet which would dictate whether the battlestars ever return to evacuate the survivors. Would probably have been fun
One thing I love about this is that it kind of hints at something I wish would come into play more for shows with faster than light travel: if you can outrun light you can glimpse at the history of different parts of the universe by looking at the light they send out. It’s something I wish would come into play on shows like Star Trek. Have you found the ruins of a civilization and want to start guessing what happened? Figure out when and where the light from the time period from question would have been bounced to, warp there, and point your telescopes and EM sensors. It wouldn’t be perfect, but I’m sure there’s a lot a sophisticated society could glean from this.
That is a great idea. Picard loved archeology so it wouldn't be hard to weave your idea into the lore
That was done once in a star wars EU novel. But yes, it never gets covered enough.
@@gregorymuir1985 And that is why I love the EU.
@@gregorymuir1985 Which one?
Its not that easy - light can dissipate, get warped by substantially massive celestial bodies. Also, a thing called albedo decides, just how much light is reflected. It would definitely will be possible to an extent, should superluminal travel be possible.
The New Caprica arc has always been one of my favorite parts of this show. Battlestar Galactica is still one of the best shows ever made. There's no need to reboot it.
I like how it's primarily a six episode story arc, but there are two episodes after dealing with a lot of the fallout but it also affects the characters in other ways and there is another episode showing a lot of what happened during the time skip. As opposed to when a sci-fi show is episodic, it wraps up the story in 45 minutes, then doesn't mention it again.
I always thought it was sort of a dumb plot line honestly ha
They keep saying the next one is not a reboot. I believe them. I think they are next going to tell the original story of Kobol.
If they just reboot the last season I would be happy.
Yeah we don’t need a Battlestar Wokactica.
Until the culture reforms itself-No reboots please
Definitely the best show I ever watched. What I wonder though is the fact that nobody, ABSOLUTELY NOBODY thought about the fact that "hey, is there any chance that nuke that just went off right next to the planet could be detected by the cylons, because if so, maybe we shouldn't stay here."
True. Or at the very least, thought to operate fully manned Battlestars (requiring less than 8% of the population) in order to allow them to protect what they were building.
@@darkjediknight2923 Never thought it about it like that lol, 8% wouldn't be that hard to get for what the job is, in fact in the year they were there they could have had massive recruitment and training drive so that deployments could be done on a rotation and give personnel more R&R time. I think when Adama roasts Lee for being too soft it is also commentary on the military at the time as well, they had become too soft after finding New Caprica, let their guard down and unfortunately paid the price.
@@BojackatronHorsemaniac Not to mention the fact they could have spent that year trying to hammer out the dings in both Battlestars. Plus, they could have put Pegasus' foundries to use and started replacing the Vipers they lost. Imagine both ships having wings of combat ready Mk VIIs ready to go!
Well, it all started with the fact that New Caprica was NOT suitable for colonization. The survivors would eventually die from cold and hunger, if not for Cylons forcing them to run again..
@@AuroraAustralis_ In this series the military answers to the civilians, so I wouldn't be surprised if the onboard resources of the battlestars were devoted to civilian production, by order of President Me First Baltar.
I am surprised that the Cylons didn't move the civilians back to one of the 12 colonies, where it would be logistically simpler to support and defend them. Presumably the Cylons were using the New Caprica colony as bait, though if so they didn't keep nearly enough ships around to ensure success.
Gotta love those passing by Cylon jet fighter sounds
The one strategically sound decision Lee made throughout the entire New Caprica arc
Nah chief crashing the pegasus was defo the best un
I mean he was right to argue about leaving everyone behind.
*eyeroll
@M J no, actually the Peg is a straight upgrade in every aspect.
Its just that it has zero luck with its commanders.
Cain got caught pants down in drydock, barely made it out with a ship not fully crewed and not supplied, then went on a rampage in the colonies, apparently mostly targeting her own allies, then went and died and left the ship to fisk. Whose only commendable action was getting killed. Then they made the egghead the New captain who immediately let The pegasus into an Ambush because YES OF COURSE WE GO ON SEARCH AND RESCUE WITH THE WHOLE FUCKING SHIP instead of, yknow, another raptor.
So he dies making sure the pegasus can escape the situation of getting piled on by basestars.
Then there is Lee, whose idea of a fight is going full jem'har'dar without delay. Never go full jem'har'dar.
In gegeral the whole space part of that rescue was poorly planned.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 he wanted his dad back. Tbh a great commander like adama was worth the sacrifice, what's the point of having a powerful ship when theres no one skilled enough to run it. Adama proved that by protecting the fleet for years in the Galactica
One of my favorite lines in the series. "Fight em till we can't"
gets me every time
Cheers.
Couldn't understand what she said at the end there.
And ironically Starbuck never ends up fighting because Leoben suddenly developed an obsession that it took three more years to find out how that came about.
"We're leaving, but we'll be back....."
Probably the single most terrifying sequence of the entire series. The overwhelming power of the Cylon spacecraft roaring by overhead, one after another, followed by the long parade of foot soldier robots. And the looks on the face of the Colonials. Epic.
For a contemporary analogy imagine the people of the Ukrainian city of Kherson when it was overrun early in the Russia-Ukraine war (also through betrayal I should note). I'd been there pre-war and met many people and have wondered how exactly they felt and whether they survived.
Judgement Day. I love that line,
I've been looking for this clip on YT for ages.
I like how fearful Six looks in the surrender scene. Worried that Baltar might actually choose to die on his feet?
This ep was where the whole "and they have a plan" meme came off the rails.
yep they wanted to make an analogy to the occupation of Iraq more than making a story that had a sensible progression from beginning to end. In the end, they ended the occupation storyline and it was back to cylons chasing down the humans again.
@@jmnnl2279 , the show's opening had wording explaining the history between the humans and Cylons. It ended with "...and they have a plan."
In the beginning, the plan was simple and obvious: eradicate humanity.
But when they had the survivors trapped on New Caprica, they began arguing amongst themselves about what to do with the humans. This gave the humans time to come up with their own "plan".
If you watch the Movie The Plan it shows they did have a plan
@@ryans413 Ehhh, not really. "The plan is everybody dies yesterday!"
I always get goosebumps during the scenes when the fleet suddenly has to jump away. The remnants of the human race running to survive. 😔
It was hard to watch, especially considering that the Colonials had mostly been on the offensive since the Pegasus arrived.
Slavers getting a taste of their own medicine, this case.
The Haitian revolution was bloody too. But there are no French slavemasters there today.
@@neolexiousneolexian6079 And Haiti is a liberated paradise.
@@Hunpecked I hear their mud cookies are to die for.
It was a difficult, but necessary choice. They'd been sitting idle above the planet since they got there, running with a skeleton crew and going soft from lack of action. They were going up against 5 base ships and hundreds of raiders. The Cylons would have tore through them in no time. They had to run, get themselves fighting fit and then prep to come back to rescue the ones left behind.
Most gut-wrenching season finale in cinema history, and, the longest year ever waiting for the next!
If I recall I think this season ended in the fall and I remember season 3 was set for October of the next year. I remember my mom saying what a whole year lol
I honestly never really got the point of the Cylon Occupation. If the Cylons gave everyone a penthouse to live in, gourmet meals, made New Caprica more hospitable and actually made human life better (which Caprica and Sharon seemed really gung ho about) I think that would’ve been a lot more interesting of a story. Also, you think the Cylons would be smart enough to disassemble the ships instead of just take the keys so there was absolutely 0 chance of escape. But as we’ve seen throughout the series, Cylons are remarkably, plot-conveniently stupid
I also never really felt like the Cylons even really wanted to be there in the first place. They were an inch away from pulling the plug on the whole thing
The reason was they wanted to do an iraqi occupation story which was incompatible with their prior stated goals. They wanted to show what it was like to be on the side of the suicide bombers resisting occupation, nevermind that suicide attacks against robots is stupid.
Great point. I also wonder why everyone hated Baltar after this, and why everyone was so devastated when the Cylons arrived. It’s not like the humans had created something great. The Cylons didn’t even make things worse for them. Also, why would the Cylons want to be there? What was to gain? Nothing. In fact, it would just be a bummer hanging out with those losers. Would’ve been easier to nuke them, and boogie on after Galactica.
@@gregorymuir1985 Suicide attacks against robots designed to look, and most importantly, feel like humans.
Although they were immortal thanks to the ressurection ships, they still feel the pain and trauma of injuries and death.
The resistance hoped that the cylons would eventually grow tired of it and leave.
The suicide bombings also warned the other humans not to collaborate with the cylons.
@@rinse-esnir4010 the problem is that the cylons original goal was to wipe out all of humanity as they demonstrated in the first episode. Them getting tired of it would likely lead them back to that original objective. They would likely just nuke the place as they left. So a pretty stupid idea on the part of the resistance since there was little incentive for the cylons to leave and keep the humans alive if they bothered them too much.
@@RoninDave Depends on what you would prefer: living in the occupation hell or being nuked.
I don't think the humans expected to survive the occupation anyway.
Lee even considered never coming back to rescue them.
When Edard James Olmos said, "We'll be back. Start your prep", that was a perfect moment to add in one of his Miami Vice moment power synth chords.
Jan Hammer has entered the chat. 😁
casting call was ..."any actors that can stare into a screen or object for long dramatic periods we will hire"
When you think about it, the only reason why they got out of this mess was because Adama refused to abandon the watch when most of the people settled at new caprica. Imagin Adama also settled and left the post. Truly game over. His "stubbornness" for security and safety kept the crew of Galactica alive during initial invasion and so on.
I know they wanted to do an Iraq War commentary (which was very well done and very timely given the historical context of the show), but it would've been even more interesting if the Cylon occupation, despite its brutal repression of any resistance, had actually been "successful" - e.g. the Cylons with their advanced industry had substantially improved human quality of life, assigning them their own Centurion servants, the humans don't even need to work, being put up in elegant penthouses, building excellent infrastructure, etc. In other words, the humans on New Caprica had everything provided materially but had no free will. This would've allowed them to explore the dilemma of sacrificing liberty for economic security and comfort (i.e. a parody more of modern China than of 2000s Iraq).
This also would've made the decision of many humans to collaborate with the Cylons genuinely understandable and realistic, thereby presenting a much more difficult moral dilemma. It also would've made the Cylon disillusionment with humanity more plausible: "We gave them everything and they still, by their nature, prefer to fight us and live in poverty." Given that Cylon culture is collectivist, this is something they would genuinely struggle to understand or forgive. It would make Boomer's rejection of humanity's worthiness of survival much more believable. And it would give us some way of empathising with Cavill's position (while the themes on the "price of free will" would be in keeping with the show's religious themes), which would make the show more narratively complex. Simply making Cavill "evil" was a weakness in the show.
Good point, but you are looking through this in an early 2020s lens. China wasn't on the radar in the same way in 2005-2006.
The Cylons improving their standard of living would have been a great detail, though I'd argue the part about the Centurion servants must be put away. The Cylons rebelled specifically to avoid becoming slaves again (with the added irony of then creating artificial humans that then just ended up enslaving them again). During the occupation many Cylons would be up in arms about what's the point pampering the humans, their original slavers, when that would be generally perceived as an uncomfortable throwback to the past. I'd think letting the humans care for themselves, but under Cylon supervision, was the compromise all the various Cylon factions came up with to test whether living together with humans was possible, but without making it look like being subservient to them.
All I've ever wanted is a GIF of Tyrol asking Starbuck, "What are we gonna do now Cpt.?" and her response.
that would be so perfect for now in the USA.
"Fight em till we can't"
@@SVSky This is the new motto of Ukraine
@@dannythomson5239 :)
This remake was just great. I didn't think i would like it, but it turned into greatness.
Starbucks line, "the same thing we always do, fight em till we cant" struck a chord with me recently.
I love when Laura looks into the camera as if she was saying I knew this would happen they should have listened. If this was Star Trek then Galactica would be beaming everyone up before the Cylons landed.
I remember seeing this on TV I loved it from the first time I saw the miniseries I didn't know if it's actual TV series was going to start at the time but I know it could be special and it ended up being very special I liked it all the way up into the last episode I love the series The Emotions the way the characters portrayed themselves everything about the show was just above standard.
Can't believe it's been twenty years😮
This is literally one of the best shows ever still
Even though I hate Baltar he did the right thing. There was nothing he could have done at that point. They could only submit and hope a resistance is formed and wait for Adama to get back.
Baltar caused the entire thing. Allowed the Cylons to disable all human security, then allowed hot cylon to have a nuclear bomb, and said nuclear bomb gave away their position on New Caprica.
How did they manage to make everything aside from the spaceships look like current US camping equipment? Amazing!
What a reboot!! Awesome show
This scene reminds me of France Dunkirk, entrance of the Wehrmacht into Paris and the train armistice
aaand - voting for Biden.
Earlier in the show they were able to get to Condition 1 in less than a min. I love how the crew brings up the fact that they took way, WAY too long to get to battle stations.
I think the only thing that stooped this show from having the highest ratings ever on IMDB and the likes is the fact that it’s a reboot and some die-hard fans of the original knock it down. In a parallel universe where the Ron Moore reboot was the ONLY BSG, it would score higher. I’ve never seen a better, more all-encompassing show, covering so many especially of humanity and human nature. People say The Wire is essential viewing in that regard but BSG goes much further.
Caprica is also a great watch, once it gets going. It’s so clever and fills in a lot of background story about how the Cylons were created. The way the season ended was incredible and set itself up for an amazing second season which sadly never happened. The only good that came out of it not being renewed is that Moore made Outlander, a show literally the EXACT opposite of BSG. BSG was all dark and metal, Outlander is all beautiful natural scenery. BSG is about humanity, Outlander is essentially about just two people. My two all-time favourite shows, and both made by the same guy. Incredible.
Man, I miss this show.
Who remembers the Rosalin Baltar debate. Rosalin said the colonial fleet shouldn’t yet settle on a planet that the cylons could find, and Baltar brushed it off as fear mongering. Then this happens. You’re a mistake Baltar.
Cylons chose him for a reason :)
Just like Brexit.
Toby Townrow how is like brexit?
@@thecoderofyoutube Indeed!
@@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis Project Fear has become Project Reality.
1:11 tough but correct tactic in this situation
This scene was the cliff hanger to end all cliff hangers when it aired.
As a kid, I hated Balter because who the frack doesn't in this series? But as an adult, and now a writer myself, I've come to really appreciate Balter's character and James Calus's portrayal. He can be a really uncomfortable protagonist at times, and this scene really portrays that in full. The realization that the nuke is his fault. The double realization that his only rational choice as a character is to surrender just for the very distant chance that humanity might survive because in this instance outright resistance is futile. Gods I fracking love this show...
I have always thought that sacrificing yourself and your command for no other reason than to avoid living as the conquered is stupid. Sure if it helps others escape or something, but once you are dead that is is, game over for you. As long as you are alive there is a chance. One of the reasons I really hate Killmonger's speech at the end of "Black Panther".
@@timmorris2048 I can only agree with that.
@@timmorris2048 I disagree entirely. Better to die free than live as a slave.
I love baltar just because he’s the galaxy’s smartest moron
My favourite character lol
We’ll be back. MacArthur couldn’t have said it better. And he did.
Que Bear McCreary audio awesomeness.....
Fancy seeing y'all here!
This is the EXACT moment that Chief Tyrol became Kevin Smith. Vince Gilligan is a genius.
Centurions, Borg drones, T-800s, and Dark Troopers.
NOT a sight I'd want to see.
Yet we will one day...
You forgot: Democrats!
@@nonel4515 democrats arnt bullet proof my dude.
@@Demicleas Neither are half the robots Nighthawk mentioned.
@@nonel4515republicans too
Love the story or not, the best thing about the occupation by the Cylons was that it led to the Adama Maneuver ....one of the most badass scenes in sci-fi history!
Baltar: Well if it isn't the consequences of my actions...
I can't believe he got away with the fact that he gave Gina the nuke lol. It never came up again!
I always found it unfortunate that they decided to go CGI with the Centurions, which meant that the audience didn't end up seeing hordes of the "foot soldiers" very often...presumably there were far more of them than there were of the other models, but you rarely get a sense of that watching the show.
It's not unfortunate, it was a good thing. As RDM pointed out, even the skinniest human waist is still human and has a certain shape to it especially when you plaster over it a metallic costume. By going CG they could make the centurions more menacing by not giving them human proportions. So this was a good use of CGI because it made the centurions feel less human because they weren't constrained by real human anatomy.
@@Jaknize1 I won't argue that the CGI centurions LOOKED GOOD, they did, but as a kid, the way they had shots in the basestars of groups marching around, likely multiple shots of the same eight guys but still, I always had the sense of just vast numbers of Cylons, like in a war of attrition humanity was utterly screwed. I just never got that sense visually in the reboot. With the centurions...they always did a good job of showing absolute swarms of raiders.
I also would have liked more footsoliders, having practical effects while maybe limited visually, are far cheaper and easier to film, Beside I rather like the look of the original soliders anyway. Also miss the "By your command" They used to say alot.
They first decided to maybe not do CGI but they went CGI too make the robots feel more robotic then a human in a suite
It's almost as if settling down on a planet when you know you're being hunted by an alien force is not a good idea.
They were there for a few years
Only one. They settle down on New Caprica and stay for one year before the Cylons arrive, having been one light year away when they detected the nuclear detonation of Cloud 9. The Cylons land and occupy New Caprica for an additional 4 months before the Exodus when Galactica and Pegasus return to evacuate the planet. @@ryans413
Being in atmosphere, this is probably the first time a lot of the Colonials are hearing the scary drone of Raider engines. Such a good sound to display potential doom
Imagine cylons and cyberman together, actually I don’t want to imagine that
Imagine a Cylon and Terminator war
@@ryans413 I honestly think that would be amazing
Couldn't they have built a Power station, brick/mortar housing and planetary defences over that year? Or settled lots of people near the Rivers too?
lets see:
Power station: that could probably have been done
Brick/mortar housing: I don't know if the fleet had any tools for building structures on the ground If not, they may just not have the tools to do it right now. That and even if they did, they would be in limited availability and unable to provide houses for everyone in the span of just a year (a house takes a few months to build irl)
planetary defenses: flat out no. They had no spare guns that would work as a ground to space artillery nor the means to produce them or the ammunition for them (about the only thing they can build is Vipers and maybe battlestar ammo thanks to the Pegasus). That, and if planetary defenses had to be in use, that would mean the two battlestars were insufficient already.. and that means they would be boned planetary defenses or not. That and in the span of just one year.. wouldn't be enough for an effective defense to be built even if they had what they needed on hand.
the rivers: its even baffling that they wouldn't go for this
No, because President Baltar had other priorities--he, himself, and him. But, the people voted for him, and that's all that mattered. And they got what they deserved.
@@TommygunNG If I'm not mistaken though, there is an episode with flashbacks which do show a ceremony with President Baltar getting spades into the ground to build the first set of New Caprica City housing projects. Whilst he might have focused on self preservation, he did seem to genuinely care about the survival of humanity and progress. It sounds like a lot of humanity were also lazy and didn't have a sense of urgency (the scene about telling the unions to do some work for a change). I'm not entirely sure why they didn't build the main settlement closer to the river that you see during the Resistance arc either since that looked far more hospitable.
@@darkjediknight2923 He only cared about CYA. Even to the degree he may have practiced some enlightened self-interest, he was still too busy with the far more prominent scenes of wine, women, and song.
I recall years ago the mistress of some multi-billionaire Greek guy said she knew his business would collapse because he spent more time on her than on his business. (Literally! She even said she now had back problems as a result.)
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As for specific scenes: Baltar didn't even devote resources to repairing the Galactica. Recall the scene of Adama walking past sparking open wires.
Add further to that:
Power Station: Could use one of the ships and cannibalize it. Only issue is fuel and New Caprica doesn't seems to have much tylium so once the resevres are gone, that would be it. So short term yes, long term no unless they found another sustainable way to make power.
Brick/mortar building: Not gonna happen. How many people in the Fleet would have the technical knowledge required to build a house? Assuming you had the resources, you still need people who know about construction, electricians, bricklayers for example. About 30 000 people live in New Caprica City and doubt more than 1% would have the skills and experience needed. Then you gotta pay them, you gotta train new people. Not possible to do it within a year or even 10 years with finite resources.
Planetary Defences. They have 2 half-strength Battlestars and that's it. Besides that, the whole point they settled on New Caprica is becaused it was assumed that the Cylons wouldn't be able to find it. Planetary defences would have just been advertising to the voting public that the planet 'could' be detected and hence not as safe or secure as people were lead to believe in the election.
Me at 4:00 thinking I'm dead anyway - "So, you've come to surrender? I accept."
Inconceivable!
brilliant acting
No, they didn’t stick the landing, and that’s unfortunate. But when BSG was on its game it was as good as anything on television.
Watching the series in its first run, I had assumed that the first season finale couldn’t be bettered as a cliffhanger. I was wrong.
The pinky and the Brain at the end.
Best tv show ever made!!
Gods I love this show
So say we all
"Fight them until we can't" doesn't do justice to what followed.
Best scene in the whole series. It's judgment Day best line 🙂
BSG ❤
This scene was so powerful and shows how stupid baltar was lol
what bugs me is they already shouldve left when the 6 used a nuke to detonate to suicide. they should know that would alert the cylons.
@@thehantavirus ya lol
@@null643 What Season 2? It was one of the best. Season 3 on the other hand...
@@thehantavirus President Baltar didn't want that.
@@baybarsedturner2 Season 3 went off the rails after the New Caprica/Exodus arc. The gritty realism the show had been known for disappeared with the Pegasus.
Admiral kane is the kind of person who will fight to the death
Been wanting to see this for a while ! EPIC !!! 👁👁👁💪💪💪🌌🌌🌌
Great scene. Long live the Pegasus!
It was completely baltars fault they were found since he gave that other 6 who killed Cain the bomb in the first place
Adama's fault for giving a civilian (who could have been a Cylon) a fully functional unguarded nuclear warhead, when all that was needed was a microgram of plutonium. Of course no responsible military commander would do such a thing, but BSG was more about drama than logic.
@@Hunpecked true there was no reason he needed an entire bomb
I wish they would do a remaster of this show spruce up the CGI and keep everything the same would buy in a heartbeat.
Why? The CGI still holds up.
Oddly enough, this may have been the last episode I ever watched of the series. It was a fantastic series in space, but I remember they found some dreary sub-standard planet to colonize and abandoned their original quest, and then were instantly invaded by the Cylons and found it ridiculous. Now I want to go back and finish the series.
It gets worse. ☹
@@Hunpecked I just finished watching season 3 and I found it fantastic.
@@doctorigp Your mileage may vary. 🙂
How did you like the 4th season?
@@Hunpecked Just finished season 3, I still need to watch season 4. But 3 was definitely worthy of the first two seasons.
@@doctorigp I agree that the third season was "worthy" of the first two, but probably not in the same way. 🙂
There is one thing i dislike about this : Anders was sick. Proving that up to this point, he wan't supposed to be a cylon. Boomer couldn't be sick no cylons excepts Anders was shown sick. (unless of course you count highly intoxicated or aging to be a sickness.)
Not true. Season 3 shows Cylon's infected with viral encephalitis. They are vulnerable to certain pathogens
@@armorofgod1430 The only disease they get was the one that disapeared in history. Such as the flue. Wich is the pathogen they were infected with.
@@kayd6572 viral encephalitis; go back and watch it. They not immune to all human viruses, just highly resistant
@@armorofgod1430 Indeed, not to mention the fact that Anders was an Earth Cylon - almost indistinguishable, biologically, from humans.
Baltar was a playboy, he always had the best girls around him
Why does Dualla have Colonel rank insignias as a Lieutenant?
Edit: I also find it strange that the Galactica jumped before all the civilian ships had jumped away, though I'm under the impression that the Pegasus was possibly the last to jump given we never see an FTL flash from it before the camera pans away.
Brevet rank, so she could act as X-O. Once out of that billet she goes down to her permanent rank.
@@SVSky Yeah, just looked it up and saw that. Plus, the insignia she's wearing is unique compared to the normal Colonel one.
If you've ever played bsg deadlock you'd realize how impossible the odds against the colonial fleet was.
I remember playing Deadlock a few years back and I always HATED hearing Intel about a Basestar Fleet and it's escorts moving anywhere near one of my fleets. I had two Minervas and a few Rangers as my heavy hitters and I STILL got nervous facing down a Basestar Fleet.
1:45 Raiders or TIE fighters, which sounds cooler/more intimidating?
Raiders
Definitely Raiders.
You know our robots aren't self aware but they seem more agile
Thanks Gaius
I still don’t think it’s within Adama’s character to let the battle stars get so undermanned
They all thought they tricked the Cylons they where living on this planet for a few years by this time most the people started making there way down to the planet and living there that’s why the ship is undermanned here.
I liked it until the final sage storyline hit and ruined it IMO What a mess
A big mistake made was allowing the colonists to become too comfortable, also not establishing a military ground base. With hidden military storage locations.
This show always seemed to have a bit of a Terminator vibe when I watched it.
Humans will always resist what they see as unjust occupations.
Dualla.....what a hottie.
Very well on behalf of the people of the 12th colonies I surrender
THAT OF 1978 RULES!
Telephones with wires 😂
I got all DVDS
w-wait a min! at 1:29 that a warship! from the game BSG deadlock and HW2 mod! i thought galatica and Pegasus was the only fighting ship in the fleet?
I believe the Defender was refitted into a civilian ship
Likely a decommissioned first war survivor sold to the private sector, the same way you'd see WWII jeeps sold off.
Woof, the President is crying during a time of crisis? Wrong vote! Poor Gaius, everything he has done has either screwed all of humanity..........or I guess saved Roslin?
5:58 Dixie Carter!
Old cylons were much cooler with the sound too
You know, everyone always felt sorry for Gina Six (Pegasus) because she was so abused and all that, which I do abhor because abuse is never the answer, but she was a self-described, avowed Cylon soldier with a mission to carry out. She didn't succeed on the Pegasus but she did ultimately succeed in betraying Humanity by blowing up Cloud Nine and leading the other Cylons to humankind's location. Humanity would have been safe on New Caprica had she not done that. I'm not saying she necessarily deserved what happened to her on Pegasus. I do think that she wasn't the pitiful figure everyone makes her out as.
You could argue with that. However Baltar gave her the nuclear warhead in the first place so he is guilty in that manner as well.
@@TheLandy94 Oh absolutely Baltar was equally guilty if not completely at fault. He gave a Cylon with a death wish a nuclear warhead. How stupid was that, you know?
I want to now more about Laure roslin on New Caprice
I know the fans would've been outraged at the time, but it would've been really ballsy if the writers had actually had the guts to write out half the cast in one fell swoop and have the remnants of the fleet actually leave and not come back, while the cylons nuked the planet from orbit, it would've completed Baltars arc much better in my opinion, I feel like this season ender separates the fantastic first half of the series from the "meh" (with a few bright spots) second half.
This scene actually is quite similar to USSR invasion of Baltic States
It´s similar to pretty much any invasion/ occupation in history and the future ;)
"Baltic." I see what you accidentally did there. :P
Noticed his words what he said he did not surrender The Colony he surrendered himself so you could say syntactically otherwise
I believe the context to him saying "I surrender" rather than "we surrender" was that he was placing responsibility for the Colonial's surrender on his shoulders alone.
I barely remember anything about this show
How did cable phones survive that far into the future, granted I haven’t seen the show YET
Technically its the past
Galactica and Pegasus are the only two analogic space Battle ships of the Human fleet. For this reason they survive to EMP Attack .
@@lorenzoliguori6377 cool cool
The show explains that Cylons are extremely capable when it comes to hacking and infiltrating Colonial computer systems. So they avoid all forms of wireless intership communication and stick to hard lines for everything, to minimize the impact a Cylon breach would have.
@@jerod4764 neato
The Cybermen would have defeated the humans much quicker than the Cylons.
Inadequate and/or outdated technology - needed infrastructure science to detect Cylons.
One of the things I hated about New Caprica was that the settlement just didn't make sense. Why weren't they settled on the rivers? Why were there power stations and more permanent housing, even wooden ones? Why not scrap ships in order to create housing and other necessary buildings?
They'd been there for a year. It doesn't make sense that there was no attempt at making actually decent living conditions for the people.
Because Baltar was too busy having s*x with women and taking pills, Zarek was doing whatever he was doing with the Quorum, and the fact that most of the structures they tried to construct likely kept collapsing because of where they built the city in the first place.
Who set them up the nuclear bomb?
It's found out later that Adama had set up a vast plan for such an event, including planetary resistance and an eventual rescue.
But maybe he should have developed a different plan as he saw Baltar's ineptness and corruption, and the people not standing against it (despite being armed): Have certain key personnel--like Tigh, Starbuck, Chief, and their immediate circles--meet in a certain place and time. Then have Raptors jump in, rescue them, and jump out, leaving a note: "So long, suckers. You got what you voted for."