@EvilCleric Which was poisoned by Magatha Grimtotem in a pre-fight "ritual". Garrosh didn't know about the poisoning until later. When Cairne died, Magatha launched an assualt to take control of Thunder Bluff for herself. Baine Bloodhoof stepped up and sucessfully repeled the attack. Afterwards, the surviving Grimtotem were banished from Mulgore entirely.
@Twitchythe3rd And Garrosh wrote a letter to Magatha, tearing into her when she had the gall to appeal to the Horde because the Tauren of Thunder Bluff started defeating them. Which I found amazing as I didn't even know Garrosh could write, much less construct a very scathing letter.
@k4ian Also even when Thrall was in the picture, Grom Hellscream of the Warsong clan himself, and his clan as a whole, yearned to fight the humans, almost for no reason what so ever. Thrall was nearly the Only orc that ever wanted peace or had even thought about it. But he was the Warchief, and you can't argue with the warchief
As Alliance, reading the comments section in these videos has opened my eyes to the status of the Horde: You guys are falling apart! What, you got VJ is gonna Hellscream first chance he gets because of his hot-headed actions and warmongering, you got assassination from within on the tauren who now struggle like SW with the defias, the whole of the horde is iffy at the Forsaken for that blight (that they are still making), and the BE are distrusted by -every- Horde race but the Forsaken.
@cbfd234 Thrall intended to give the Warchief title to Vol'jin of the Trolls. But instead settled with Garrosh because he felt the Horde needed a strong leader to carry them through these pressing times
@Cloutar b2: Sylvanas has Val'kyr in Cata, and uses them to create new Forsaken, to which the orcs (and most certainly Tauren, too), object heavily to.
Yes, he did, in a duel to death, it was a ceremonial challenge by Carine, Cairne was furious because a meeting between nelf and tauren druids failed cuz orcs slaughtered almost all of em, he thought it was Garrosh, they did not know those orcs were of the Twilight Hammer. Magatha poisoned his axe without him knowing, Cairne did not have a chance. Magatha tried to rise to power, but Baine got some help and Garrosh sent her a message that he hopes she'll die and rot, Garrosh hated her for it.
@MytishDragon Cairne was kinda pissed at Garrosh because he had learned a bunch of Orcs had attacked a training center for druids. Cairne believed Garrosh had ordered it but it was actually the Twilight's Hammer. Cairne challenged Garrosh for the leadership of the Horde through a ritualistic duel. Garrosh, not quite believing him tried to dissuade him by making it a death match. Cairne took him up on it and then proceeded to own Garrosh until Hellscream got a lucky shot with a poisoned axe.
Sylvanas has grown a bit insane over the years,I mean she's still can control herself more than Jaina,after losing 90% of her race,22 of them being her family member,getting tortured and killed,and then raised as a banshee only to be tortured more,while Jaina only got her home in Theramore destroyed and yet she went batshit insane trying to destroy everyone and everything,also Sylavans will come to a righteous path after Alleria helps her :)
@denniscm1981 This music doesn't actually often play in TB. Alot of cata music is like that. For example, the new Stormwind track only plays in the harbor, graveyard and cathedral square, as far as I know.
@Cloutar Alot of the remaining val'kyr join the forsaken after the lich king's fall. With Bolvar as their hive mind now it'd make sense that while most of the scourge will go into a dormant state alot of them will try and redeem themselves. I expect alot of the new Bolvar headed scourge to play a protaganistic role in the future.
@Dycith Regarding Ner'zhul... "The Elder Shaman Ner'zhul was the Warchief of Draenor, the clans that remained uncaptured after the Dark Portal was destroyed in Azeroth."
exactly why her being warchief will make a great expansion, called somthing like "will of the forsaken" or some shit like that, all races get an undead version to be in sylvanas new faction, as the horde turn against her
@LordYamonWC2 Have you read the updated lore... from AFTER WC1? Azeroth is now the world that Warcraft is played in, and it has been for a while, if I'm not completely wrong. It's also the name on the part of the Eastern Kingdoms that is ruled by the Stormwind Kingdom. Hence why everyone refer to the world of Warcraft as Azeroth. But you probably knew that already... right?
Actually her new descent into evil is because of development in her short story where she has actually gained new respect for her people, no longer seeing them as tools, "arrows in her quiver" as the story put it, but as actual soldiers and servants to her empire. Of course, now that she has accepted the undead as more then just tools, she's naturally only going to get worse from there because she's justifying the existence and rights of dead people.
@NONEOFYOURBUISSNNESS He's got his elite there... to keep her out of trouble. Thrall also had the Kor'kron situated in Undercity after the Wrathgate incident. They aren't there to help with added trrops, they are there to keep the Forsaken, and predominately Sylvanas, on a very tight leash.
I miss Thrall.... Why did Blizzard do this to us? (The Horde) The Horde was never evil. The Horde did what was best for them, their children, and their races. They did what was best for their city and fought for their family and loved ones, just like the Alliance did. No faction was right, or wrong. There was no good guy or bad guy. Until Garrosh came along, and turned us into monsters. He leads us with ruthlessness and cruelty, not compassion and protectiveness. I vote for Thrall's return!
@TomBombadil37 Garrosh didn't use the poison, that is true, but he was the one who asked for a duel to death when Cairne merely wanted a duel for power. With or without Magatha's meddling, Garrosh intended Cairne's demise, thus holds just as much responsibility, if not more.
@kevindevany He died after a duel with Garrosh which weakened him. However, he would have died anyway because the grimtotem were poisoning him. The duel just made it go faster...
to every one who's talking smack about garrosh, you should do the stonetalon peak horde quest chain. garrosh may act like a jerk at times but he will die for any member of the horde, and he has the strength to keep the horde united, and that makes him a great warchief
Cairne Bloodhoof, High Chieftan of the Tauren, under the impression that Garrosh has deliberately undermined an attempt to peacefully obtain resources from Ashenvale, challenges Garrosh to a duel in Orgrimmar. Cairne is defeated, and it is later revealed that Magatha Grimtotem deliberately poisoned Garrosh's blade, and that the poison incapacitated Cairne allowing Garrosh to slay him. -from WoWWiki
Ok everyone read this please!!!!!!!: When the expansion comes out I vote that all taurens in every realm or a specific realm (malganis) gather around the pond in the first rise at thunderbluff and /dance and yell /moo and /train lol in honor of Cairne. All this can be done on Dec 7th! If you want this to happen please thumb this comment up!!! It will be so awesome woot!! er.. MOO!! lmao!
@Warcraft177 This duel was one "to the death". Garrosh did kill Cairne. But Barroshs axe was poisoned, which *faciliated* Garroshs victory. "Need to learn your lore a bit"
@K4inan Even i think the problem is marked on 2 persons. Garrosh and Wrynn. They both must have personal problems. But the rest you are right. Even i play mostly Alliance but i have high respect for Thrall,Voljin and Caine.
@joashsal damn, as a alliance player, Cairn was one of my favorite horde leader and the reason for me to respect these taurens. Seriously, it's really sad!
i was just thinking the other day, when you compare the current old-world music to the excellent music in grizzly hills or other northrend areas, it begins to seem pretty musty by comparison. i wasn't hopeful that they would do much of an overhaul of the music in cataclysm, but i am pleasantly surprised that they seem to be outdoing even themselves yet again.
guys the real story went like this garrosh and carine was in a duel to the death but before the duel started garrosh told magatha to enchant i not poison it so when tey fought it paralzed carine then he died after a while them the magtha grimtotem started a attack on ThunderBluff but Baine BloodHoof stoped the grimtotem and is now high cheftan
@Gominoide The Horde would have become much more peaceful, as the Tauren are not creatures of war, but of nature and serenity. The war between the Alliance and the Horde could have been settled over time, the two factions perhaps merging into one nation of Azeroth, united against the Twilight's Hammer. The Orcs, on the other hand, are not creatures of such peace, as is evident in Garrosh Hellscream's tactics.
@K4inan very wrong, if you follow actual Warcraft lore. The orcs soul purpose of entering " Azeroth" as you newbs would call it, when in reality Azeroth was a small town in real Warcraft lore. Was to destroy the humans and conquer the world. And Mediev was made up as the lore progressed as an explanation of the horde's entering " Azeroth". Even then their intentions were not beneficent, but indeed malevolent, under Gul'dans rule ( an evil warlock of outland )
I love Sylvanas, Shes amazing and one great lore character. However, i think you are completely right. She still loves the forsaken and blood elves tho. She doesnt like the other races much at all lol, i just kinda wish they would show that more often. Anyway, wow lore is awesome. To bad they ruined deathwing with his fight. haha.
@TheLaughingMan0603 Holy shit, you are SO wrong. Rend is a false warchief of the Orcs in UBRS. Ner Zhul was NEVER a war Chief and Kargath was only appointed by Illidan so It did not really count.
Ive been playing since the beginning and still loving it!
The flute, drum, and rainstick bits give this such a Carlos Nakai feel to it. It's perfect.
ishne'alo'porah
Zedi gan what do you say bro?🤔
@EvilCleric Which was poisoned by Magatha Grimtotem in a pre-fight "ritual". Garrosh didn't know about the poisoning until later. When Cairne died, Magatha launched an assualt to take control of Thunder Bluff for herself. Baine Bloodhoof stepped up and sucessfully repeled the attack. Afterwards, the surviving Grimtotem were banished from Mulgore entirely.
at the present time, Cairne left Warcraft and Dota :( R.I.P
First time you get in that Elevator as a level 10, and you're greeted with the Honor guard.
@Twitchythe3rd And Garrosh wrote a letter to Magatha, tearing into her when she had the gall to appeal to the Horde because the Tauren of Thunder Bluff started defeating them. Which I found amazing as I didn't even know Garrosh could write, much less construct a very scathing letter.
@Mariosatr11 Trolls came from the EK, specifically Stranglethorn Vale. They're transplants like orcs, goblins and draenei.
@k4ian Also even when Thrall was in the picture, Grom Hellscream of the Warsong clan himself, and his clan as a whole, yearned to fight the humans, almost for no reason what so ever. Thrall was nearly the Only orc that ever wanted peace or had even thought about it. But he was the Warchief, and you can't argue with the warchief
As Alliance, reading the comments section in these videos has opened my eyes to the status of the Horde:
You guys are falling apart!
What, you got VJ is gonna Hellscream first chance he gets because of his hot-headed actions and warmongering, you got assassination from within on the tauren who now struggle like SW with the defias, the whole of the horde is iffy at the Forsaken for that blight (that they are still making), and the BE are distrusted by -every- Horde race but the Forsaken.
@cbfd234 Thrall intended to give the Warchief title to Vol'jin of the Trolls. But instead settled with Garrosh because he felt the Horde needed a strong leader to carry them through these pressing times
@Cloutar b2: Sylvanas has Val'kyr in Cata, and uses them to create new Forsaken, to which the orcs (and most certainly Tauren, too), object heavily to.
Yes, he did, in a duel to death, it was a ceremonial challenge by Carine, Cairne was furious because a meeting between nelf and tauren druids failed cuz orcs slaughtered almost all of em, he thought it was Garrosh, they did not know those orcs were of the Twilight Hammer. Magatha poisoned his axe without him knowing, Cairne did not have a chance. Magatha tried to rise to power, but Baine got some help and Garrosh sent her a message that he hopes she'll die and rot, Garrosh hated her for it.
@MytishDragon Cairne was kinda pissed at Garrosh because he had learned a bunch of Orcs had attacked a training center for druids. Cairne believed Garrosh had ordered it but it was actually the Twilight's Hammer. Cairne challenged Garrosh for the leadership of the Horde through a ritualistic duel. Garrosh, not quite believing him tried to dissuade him by making it a death match. Cairne took him up on it and then proceeded to own Garrosh until Hellscream got a lucky shot with a poisoned axe.
@ElRousey
couldn't agree more. I can't wait to start a new tauren character. Mulgore has such a nostalgic, depressing look at Cata...
Sylvanas has grown a bit insane over the years,I mean she's still can control herself more than Jaina,after losing 90% of her race,22 of them being her family member,getting tortured and killed,and then raised as a banshee only to be tortured more,while Jaina only got her home in Theramore destroyed and yet she went batshit insane trying to destroy everyone and everything,also Sylavans will come to a righteous path after Alleria helps her :)
this music gives you the vibe that something big will happen and a call of unity in the horde.
@denniscm1981 This music doesn't actually often play in TB. Alot of cata music is like that.
For example, the new Stormwind track only plays in the harbor, graveyard and cathedral square, as far as I know.
@Cloutar Alot of the remaining val'kyr join the forsaken after the lich king's fall. With Bolvar as their hive mind now it'd make sense that while most of the scourge will go into a dormant state alot of them will try and redeem themselves. I expect alot of the new Bolvar headed scourge to play a protaganistic role in the future.
@Dycith Regarding Ner'zhul...
"The Elder Shaman Ner'zhul was the Warchief of Draenor, the clans that remained uncaptured after the Dark Portal was destroyed in Azeroth."
exactly why her being warchief will make a great expansion, called somthing like "will of the forsaken" or some shit like that, all races get an undead version to be in sylvanas new faction, as the horde turn against her
@LordYamonWC2 Have you read the updated lore... from AFTER WC1? Azeroth is now the world that Warcraft is played in, and it has been for a while, if I'm not completely wrong. It's also the name on the part of the Eastern Kingdoms that is ruled by the Stormwind Kingdom.
Hence why everyone refer to the world of Warcraft as Azeroth.
But you probably knew that already... right?
Actually her new descent into evil is because of development in her short story where she has actually gained new respect for her people, no longer seeing them as tools, "arrows in her quiver" as the story put it, but as actual soldiers and servants to her empire. Of course, now that she has accepted the undead as more then just tools, she's naturally only going to get worse from there because she's justifying the existence and rights of dead people.
@NONEOFYOURBUISSNNESS He's got his elite there... to keep her out of trouble. Thrall also had the Kor'kron situated in Undercity after the Wrathgate incident. They aren't there to help with added trrops, they are there to keep the Forsaken, and predominately Sylvanas, on a very tight leash.
I miss Thrall.... Why did Blizzard do this to us? (The Horde)
The Horde was never evil. The Horde did what was best for them, their children, and their races. They did what was best for their city and fought for their family and loved ones, just like the Alliance did. No faction was right, or wrong. There was no good guy or bad guy. Until Garrosh came along, and turned us into monsters. He leads us with ruthlessness and cruelty, not compassion and protectiveness. I vote for Thrall's return!
there is only one horde. thrall was our only and true warchief... i love you go'el
!
The Horde was always evil , the only good races in that faction are the taurens,blood elves and pandaren
That's some decent music, I might actually decide to hang out in Thunder Bluff once in a while now. :)
@Deyyhayederaned: The only way Vol'jin will leave is if he gets killed, which will most likely never happen because Vol'jin is too badass to die.
@TomBombadil37 Garrosh didn't use the poison, that is true, but he was the one who asked for a duel to death when Cairne merely wanted a duel for power. With or without Magatha's meddling, Garrosh intended Cairne's demise, thus holds just as much responsibility, if not more.
@kevindevany
He died after a duel with Garrosh which weakened him. However, he would have died anyway because the grimtotem were poisoning him. The duel just made it go faster...
They outdid themselves with the music.
I stopped playing wow, the moment cataclysm came out and i found out that Garrosh became the new warchief.
But that's why we love her so much :3
@BloodwynCZ I pray that Cairne was not killed. :(
One of the most generous Tauren who ever lived, alongside with Thrall.
to every one who's talking smack about garrosh, you should do the stonetalon peak horde quest chain. garrosh may act like a jerk at times but he will die for any member of the horde, and he has the strength to keep the horde united, and that makes him a great warchief
this music is perhaps my favourite blizz have ever done! More reasons for everyone to roll the tribal horde races :)
R.I.P Cairne Bloodhoof
Vanilla-Wrath
You will be missed my Chief /salute
Cairne Bloodhoof, High Chieftan of the Tauren, under the impression that Garrosh has deliberately undermined an attempt to peacefully obtain resources from Ashenvale, challenges Garrosh to a duel in Orgrimmar. Cairne is defeated, and it is later revealed that Magatha Grimtotem deliberately poisoned Garrosh's blade, and that the poison incapacitated Cairne allowing Garrosh to slay him. -from WoWWiki
Ok everyone read this please!!!!!!!: When the expansion comes out I vote that all taurens in every realm or a specific realm (malganis) gather around the pond in the first rise at thunderbluff and /dance and yell /moo and /train lol in honor of Cairne. All this can be done on Dec 7th! If you want this to happen please thumb this comment up!!! It will be so awesome woot!! er.. MOO!! lmao!
@Warcraft177 This duel was one "to the death". Garrosh did kill Cairne. But Barroshs axe was poisoned, which *faciliated* Garroshs victory. "Need to learn your lore a bit"
@cbfd234 Orcs are the majority race in the Horde and the title Warchief is quite an Orcish thing so...still a bit odd though.
@K4inan
Even i think the problem is marked on 2 persons. Garrosh and Wrynn. They both must have personal problems. But the rest you are right. Even i play mostly Alliance but i have high respect for Thrall,Voljin and Caine.
MEMORIES
Unexpected good theme. Best in my opinion
@kahzow Let's honor him as soon as we get the expansion!
We all miss you Cairne. But your son is doing a good job. All hail Baine! Sylvannas! Vol'jin and HELLSCREAM! FOR THE HORDE!
It's nice how 5 people so far all responded to my message with almost the same answer xD
is it possible some races like tauren to join the alliance in a next expansion?
My god this is amazing
This theme no longer plays in Thunder Bluff. It was reverted to old vanilla wow theme.
thats the spirit!!
@joashsal damn, as a alliance player, Cairn was one of my favorite horde leader and the reason for me to respect these taurens. Seriously, it's really sad!
i was just thinking the other day, when you compare the current old-world music to the excellent music in grizzly hills or other northrend areas, it begins to seem pretty musty by comparison. i wasn't hopeful that they would do much of an overhaul of the music in cataclysm, but i am pleasantly surprised that they seem to be outdoing even themselves yet again.
@BloodwynCZ He brought the Horde into the fold of peace and wellbeing for all hordes!
@Benniboiere yea but it would be funny if he was still lvl 10, the allies would have a field day XD
guys the real story went like this garrosh and carine was in a duel to the death but before the duel started garrosh told magatha to enchant i not poison it so when tey fought it paralzed carine then he died after a while them the magtha grimtotem started a attack on ThunderBluff but Baine BloodHoof stoped the grimtotem and is now high cheftan
@Deyyhayederaned you forgot about The blood elf leader... xP
@TomBombadil37 Garrosh still upped the duel to a duel to death, though. One of them would end up dead, anyway.
@narutomanutdfan He's not bad just misunderstood his intentions are noble and he will bring the Horde to victory.
@UcantResistClicking0 man, Vol'jin was once so badass that he was on three places AT A TIME
And by the way immortal boss
@Twitchythe3rd What about the grimtotem?
@SamJamRic Some actually have, according to blizzard.
i listen to the sound trakc list dailie because i been away from wow for 2months D:
the music that starts at 0:43 made me sad thinking about how Cairne was killed =(
Spirits guide you Cairne Bloodhoof.
I am Cairne, Chief of the Bloodhoof Taurens!
What I want to know is howdafuck did those Tauren get up ontop of dat cliff in the first place?
...All that rain....
@DarkRaven4649 Which if it was a fair fight, Cairne would have beaten Garrosh into submission and probably spared his life afterwards.
I...really love the melancholy feel to the music. It's depressing, and it has all rights to be. The Tauren are basically in their darkest hour.
T_T bye bye Cairne all of the taurens will miss you... *sniff*
@Gominoide The Horde would have become much more peaceful, as the Tauren are not creatures of war, but of nature and serenity. The war between the Alliance and the Horde could have been settled over time, the two factions perhaps merging into one nation of Azeroth, united against the Twilight's Hammer. The Orcs, on the other hand, are not creatures of such peace, as is evident in Garrosh Hellscream's tactics.
holy cow thats awsome!
@K4inan very wrong, if you follow actual Warcraft lore. The orcs soul purpose of entering " Azeroth" as you newbs would call it, when in reality Azeroth was a small town in real Warcraft lore. Was to destroy the humans and conquer the world. And Mediev was made up as the lore progressed as an explanation of the horde's entering " Azeroth". Even then their intentions were not beneficent, but indeed malevolent, under Gul'dans rule ( an evil warlock of outland )
@theory24 Edit: lol I was joking when i posted this. Still sounds like fun though.
Cairne was the taruen chieftan guy?
@Killerbobcats Baine's much more stronger now. Garrosh used to be a 70 Elite remember >: ) Or something like that.
@TomBombadil37 the fight was to the death, poison didn't matter, just made it unfair and dishonorable. Cairne would've won if it wasn't for magatha.
I love Sylvanas, Shes amazing and one great lore character. However, i think you are completely right. She still loves the forsaken and blood elves tho. She doesnt like the other races much at all lol, i just kinda wish they would show that more often. Anyway, wow lore is awesome. To bad they ruined deathwing with his fight. haha.
@theory24 it is now dec 7th
Moooo
@sovietunionnn Definitely proud
pass the peace pipe
maybe that will be in a new expansion sylvanas leads the horde
it happened !
Tauren music has gotten so sad. They have reason to fight more than anyone now it seems.
@ElRousey so...Garrosh killed him?
@Vasiel44 That, or not, since it's a game.
@SamJamRic The only ones with no real dark spots in their past are the Tauren.
For The Dark Lady One day they will see garrosh although strong and forceful is foolish THE BANSHEE QUEEN WILL ONE DAY RULE THE HORDE
....
Moo
@UcantResistClicking0 The arrow that will pierce Garrosh's heart..
@TheLaughingMan0603
a. Sylvanas is a female.
b. Sylvanas hasn't got any Val'Kyr, that's the Lich King.
great, now we have a lvl 10 for a leader -.-
@privateabstract that cuts deep. go outside. You've proven you're truly superior.
even when blizzard gives thunder bluff epic music only 4/5 people visit it =/
Capital punishment for Garrosh and Magatha!
Do not forget
what Garrosh did to Krom'gar in Stonetalen Mountains
Garrosh isn't that evil as people say.
Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
@TheLaughingMan0603 Holy shit, you are SO wrong. Rend is a false warchief of the Orcs in UBRS. Ner Zhul was NEVER a war Chief and Kargath was only appointed by Illidan so It did not really count.
Vooljin RULES NOW
Cairne is ground beef now, Hes in a better place.