I enjoy this arrangement for string orchestra and the one for brass band just about equally. Aren't we lucky to have both. Talking of luck, imagine the girls of Brook Green School, Hammersmith having GH as their music teacher. I hope they appreciated the singular honour. The Naxos English String Music series is full of superb music, much of it rarely heard.
Many thanks for this wonderful music. I rarely comment, but couldn’t bring myself to ignore mentioning the very, very rude intrusion of RUclips ads in the very heart of this performance. Needless to say, the ads completely ruined the listening experience. It’s akin to having a delightful glass of wine taken away with a slap in the face. So sad. But again, thank you for this music.
Does anyone know where this exact arrangement can be obtained? The Dennis Wright arrangement is clearly for a wind band and the Jacob one just doesn't retain any of Holst's magical qualities.
From G.M. Brand. They incorrectly list it as the D Wright arrangement. I had a conversation with Michael Brand about it, and the previews show it's the Holst arrangement, so I bought it, and sure enough when it arrived it was Holst's one. Fantastic. There's an errata in the celli in the March, bar 181 should be arco.
… the Nocturne is remarkably exquisite … and I often feel that the various suites and tone poems by Holst represent some of the most beautiful music of the 20th century …
Despite the uncertainties about who arranged which pieces, this is still beautiful music. The two lively outer movements contrast well with the more intimate and slower Nocturne. Wonderful playing by the Northern Sinfonia under Lloyd-Jones....
Wonderful. Holst and Lloyd Jones never disappoint. The coda of the March makes you think once again the English music just is the greatest in the world.
@@steveegallo3384 Actually I’ve played a bunch of Holst this month, definitely one of my favorite English composers. I mean I’d prefer German composers most of the time though.
The Denis Wright arrangement is for concert band. According to the publishers, the manuscript of the composer's arrangement for strings was discovered in the 1990s. Colin Matthews, who had worked closely with Imogen Holst during her later life confirmed its authenticity.
Thank you for your response, Mr. Rodders. From what I've read in the Wikipedia (an unreliable source) it was the composer who had completed an arrangement for military band of the entire Scherzo and only the first 38 bars of the Nocturne. It also says that Dr. Denis Wright and Gordon Jacob made orchestral arrangements of it in 1937 and 1952 respectively. I'm going to side with you as to what is factual concerning the subsequent arrangements of the original piece as the information that you provided makes more sense than what Wikipedia states.
@@RoddersClassical Mr. Rodders, upon watching your video "Gustav Holst : Works for string orchestra, conducted by Imogen Holst (orig. on Lyrita LP SRCS 34)" and listening to the Nocturne arranged for Orchestra (which plays from 17:05-23:45 in that video) I noticed that that version of the Nocturne as well as this one both begin with a solo violin playing the notes A -C-D-E prompting me to believe that this (entire) particular version of the “Moorside Suite” must have been orchestrated by Imogen Holst. It’s not certain, but it's very likely.
@Rodders There's an arrangement (by Philip Lane) of this available for String Orchestra at Boosey & Hawke but it was taken from the Brass Band version, and the scherzo is down a tone from this. I'd love to get this version, any ideas if the sheet music is available anywhere?
I can't help you there I'm sorry, my knowledge is merely as a listener.However, if you contact holstmuseum.org.uk/contact-us/, they might be able to refer you to someone who will know.
thanks for your reply, I'll keep searching, it's a very interesting piece, especially given its history and link to the St Paul's suite, which is another favourite of mine.
I got some very interesting information from the publisher (G&M Brand). They said the original manuscript was only found in the mid 90's at Kneller Hall (HQ of British Army music) by renowned Holst scholar Dr. Jon C Mitchell. Hence the confusion about the piece's existence. First published 1999. I believe this recording is from this publication.
0:00 Scherzo
3:00 Nocturne
10:07 March
The March has a lovely air of Vaughan-Williams.
You can tell its the same composer as Brook Green. Those intervals between the violins are magic.
I enjoy this arrangement for string orchestra and the one for brass band just about equally. Aren't we lucky to have both. Talking of luck, imagine the girls of Brook Green School, Hammersmith having GH as their music teacher. I hope they appreciated the singular honour. The Naxos English String Music series is full of superb music, much of it rarely heard.
Many thanks for this wonderful music. I rarely comment, but couldn’t bring myself to ignore mentioning the very, very rude intrusion of RUclips ads in the very heart of this performance. Needless to say, the ads completely ruined the listening experience. It’s akin to having a delightful glass of wine taken away with a slap in the face. So sad. But again, thank you for this music.
You can run through the video before hand quickly to try’s be clear out some of the ads, maybe try an add blocker?
adclockers gobbles up popins,popouts. loudass commercials like PACMAN
adblocker plus is free
Excellent.
Such jolly music
I’m playing this piece rn in school it’s kinda fast yall😳
I'd lose the y'all part. Sounds ghetto.
@@hankwilliams5622 have you never been to Texas, literally everyone says Y’all
Maybe, but it still sounds ghetto.@@LunaRubio-tu1eo
No it doesn’t, everyone there says that
Conducting debut: 1961 - Royal Liverpool Philharmonic
Does anyone know where this exact arrangement can be obtained? The Dennis Wright arrangement is clearly for a wind band and the Jacob one just doesn't retain any of Holst's magical qualities.
From G.M. Brand. They incorrectly list it as the D Wright arrangement. I had a conversation with Michael Brand about it, and the previews show it's the Holst arrangement, so I bought it, and sure enough when it arrived it was Holst's one. Fantastic. There's an errata in the celli in the March, bar 181 should be arco.
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… the Nocturne is remarkably exquisite … and I often feel that the various suites and tone poems by Holst represent some of the most beautiful music of the 20th century …
I agree, and Vaughn Williams is also notable in that regard.
Despite the uncertainties about who arranged which pieces, this is still beautiful music. The two lively outer movements contrast well with the more intimate and slower Nocturne. Wonderful playing by the Northern Sinfonia under Lloyd-Jones....
Stevee GALLO -- On re-reading now 3 years later, I find myself STILL in agreement with me....though now from Acapulco!
Obviously a hit with your listeners. Including this one.
merveilleux....que dire de plus
What more indeed!
Just got the sheets for this!! I'm playing second violin, but I'm excited nonetheless!
hey there! can you please send me the sheet music? if you can please contact me at abbidnugraha@hotmail.com. thanks!
@@barbel360ton Ah, just saw this! I found it here if you're still looking for it: imslp.org/wiki/A_Moorside_Suite,_H.173_%28Holst,_Gustav%29
Note the subtle reference to "Early One Morning" at 11.15 et seq.
Actually, I like this one more than the original or the orchestrated version by Jacob.
Wonderful. Holst and Lloyd Jones never disappoint. The coda of the March makes you think once again the English music just is the greatest in the world.
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@@JohnSmith-mn4wf -- Then What would YOU propose as an alternative? Cheers from Acapulco!
@@steveegallo3384 Actually I’ve played a bunch of Holst this month, definitely one of my favorite English composers.
I mean I’d prefer German composers most of the time though.
This brings back so many bad memories of 7th grade Junior Regional Orchestra
I like this quite more than the brass version (might be because I play violin but ;P)
just curious do uk twosetviolin
I'm a brass player...and hearing this beloved piece with strings for the first time ... I am inclined to agree.
3:01的Nocturne非常好聽 ! 算是以前經驗的漏網之魚 !
Excuse me, everyone. I think that this version of "A Moorside Suite" was the one that was arranged for orchestra by Dr. Denis Wright in 1937.
The Denis Wright arrangement is for concert band. According to the publishers, the manuscript of the composer's arrangement for strings was discovered in the 1990s. Colin Matthews, who had worked closely with Imogen Holst during her later life confirmed its authenticity.
Thank you for your response, Mr. Rodders. From what I've read in the Wikipedia (an unreliable source) it was the composer who had completed an arrangement for military band of the entire Scherzo and only the first 38 bars of the Nocturne. It also says that Dr. Denis Wright and Gordon Jacob made orchestral arrangements of it in 1937 and 1952 respectively. I'm going to side with you as to what is factual concerning the subsequent arrangements of the original piece as the information that you provided makes more sense than what Wikipedia states.
Max, you can hear various performing versions of the Suite in the playlist ruclips.net/p/PLHxzuXilW2AKxkDzo5bZeyQjwnMZbArpy
@@RoddersClassical Mr. Rodders, upon watching your video "Gustav Holst : Works for string orchestra, conducted by Imogen Holst (orig. on Lyrita LP SRCS 34)" and listening to the Nocturne arranged for Orchestra (which plays from 17:05-23:45 in that video) I noticed that that version of the Nocturne as well as this one both begin with a solo violin playing the notes A
-C-D-E prompting me to believe that this (entire) particular version of the “Moorside Suite” must have been orchestrated by Imogen Holst. It’s not certain, but it's very likely.
@@maxbenitez5913 The recording conducted by Imogen Holst is her father’s arrangement, not hers.
I'm the only one who prefer the original version for brass... so much colors...
You're not on your own but the brass band original is more difficult to play than it sounds, technically and musically.
@Rodders There's an arrangement (by Philip Lane) of this available for String Orchestra at Boosey & Hawke but it was taken from the Brass Band version, and the scherzo is down a tone from this. I'd love to get this version, any ideas if the sheet music is available anywhere?
I can't help you there I'm sorry, my knowledge is merely as a listener.However, if you contact holstmuseum.org.uk/contact-us/, they might be able to refer you to someone who will know.
thanks for your reply, I'll keep searching, it's a very interesting piece, especially given its history and link to the St Paul's suite, which is another favourite of mine.
I got some very interesting information from the publisher (G&M Brand). They said the original manuscript was only found in the mid 90's at Kneller Hall (HQ of British Army music) by renowned Holst scholar Dr. Jon C Mitchell. Hence the confusion about the piece's existence. First published 1999. I believe this recording is from this publication.
Thank you for that Adrien. CD booklet notes can sometimes increase confusion rather than removing it !
Looks like it may not have been at Kneller Hall, but more likely at Aldeburgh.