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Thanks so much man, I really appreciate you covering this.
I know some people are wondering why I'm still trying to be nice about it... The reason is that even when you've not done anything wrong, lawsuits can literally take years. Its not only a massive headache but also extremely expensive. The quotes I've got for copyright lawyers in the US are around $1000 an hour. Plus, I'm not even sure if I'd be able to continue creating content until the lawsuit was resolved. So basically if I have no other choice, then yes I will go the lawsuit route. But obviously I would strongly prefer not to. 😅
Also I appreciate Ludwig being humble but creators raising awareness of this and trying to help me might be the thing that gets RUclips to intervene or Alex Edson to back down... which would literally save my entire business and the channel I've spent 5 years building. I know Lud has spoken about similar issues in the past too, so his content is definitely way more valuable than he's giving himself credit for.
Since this all happened other creators have come forward to me with other allegations against Alex Edson from back when he ran PowerTV MCN. It's made me realise how lucky I am that people are speaking out in my case, as some of those creators in the past didn't have the community to support them, and some of them got badly ripped off by him. So seriously, thank you so much to everyone for the support. It means a lot.
Best of luck
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Justice for MM!
Main character comment and only 74 likes?
Just a reminder to everyone else, do not go to business casual and comment on the videos. This is probably what he wants. He wants the traction and the views from people going to comment that he is a bad person
Liking and commenting this to boost, this is so important. One of the best ways to kill content creators who are problematic is to completely ignore them
He doesn't even create content on that channel. There's like 2 videos release in the last 2 years.
Here's a algorithm boosts
@@FoxenPiano still. People make money from old videos, especially when they randomly go viral
Yep let’s keep it outta sight outta mind!😅
The RUclips copyright policy is completely broken. They desperately need to fix this. Anyone can claim anything, and the only recourse is “send an appeal to the person who maliciously struck your channel and plead with them to change their mind.” It’s ridiculous.
It's not RUclips that is broken, it is the law they are forced to comply with that is.
Maybe file this in court or to whoever made the laws, not here, because everyone's just trying to not get sued.
I used to watch you 4-5 years ago everyday lmao
@@realbillmitchell Both. And yeah. That's a stupid way to appeal. Since they intentionally did it as such to begin with.
RUclips and Law are so messed. It can be taken advantage of so easily. However from the genre of RUclips I work in, the companies are very understanding and prefer Claim to Strike any day. Because the efforts anyone puts in a channel is alot
Why not just enact a reverse three strike rule? False copyright claim with malicious intent three times and the accuser’s channel gets deleted, not the accused. That’d fix this problem in a heartbeat.
That already happens at some point, but RUclips can't act until the case has been resolved in court or they become liable themselves.
@@0106johnnyLiable for what? As far as I am aware, google/youtube can take down anything they want according to the terms and conditions they define.
@@0106johnny They could implement something that kicks in before the court stuff is even considered. To use this video's issue as an example, that may not even go to court. They're in the 10 day period where BC has to decide if they want to sue, and if they don't, the strikes are dropped. You could implement a rule that says that if you file a copyright strike, and it reaches the point where the other party says, "no, you're wrong, sue me to prove it" and then you don't... then you get dinged by RUclips for it. In other words, if you're filing a copyright strike in the first place, you damn well better already know whether or not you're willing to go to court over it, instead of dragging it out, causing people's channels to be unable to upload for at least 10 days at a time, only to let it drop at the very last step with no real consequences for yourself.
I mean RUclips does say they take down accounts all the time for fraudulent takedowns, but it's never publicized and I can't find any details on any criteria they use to make those judgements. Have a very impactful punishment for filing a claim you aren't willing to actually litigate would go a long ways towards curbing that behavior. The downside I think would be that it could discourage actually legitimate claims for folks who just don't have the money to go to court, since the copyright system is a pretty straightforward one. You file the strike, and the other party either complies, tries to get you to retract it, or directly files a counter notification. If they do the latter, boom, you're already in the sue me territory. I guess that's not too big of an issue though, especially if it's a strike system that wears off over time like the actual copyright strikes do. Presumably a normal person filing legitimate grievances they otherwise aren't willing to go to court over isn't going to be doing so with the kind of frequency that a copyright troll would.
I believe a hiccup with that solution is the fact that there needs to be an investigation to prove it is copyright and then see if it was made with malicious intent
@@cmcpheet That seems like a good way to force multi-million/billion dollar corporations to sue people making hardly $60k a year instead of striking them.
the fact that this man is getting other youtuber's channels deleted for just a few SECONDS of similar footage is just mindblowing. good on mogul mail(kinda looks like lud) on making this video
man a collaboration with mogul mail and ludwig would be crazy though...
🤯🥹
@@justshitmyself read this comment a 100 times before and it's still not funny
@@erdling3132 i guess that how your dad left you
Who's Ludwig
he asked for an apology in order to use that as an admission of guilt.
it's a really lowlife scumbag behaviour.
Exactly my thoughts.
Fortunately it wouldn't stand up in court
@@andrewbloom7694my thoughts exactly. While he has litigated before, this seemed like a very amateur tactic, like something a child would think up that doesn't know how the legal system works. Like that apology could very easily fall under extortion
He's an ahole
In some jurisdictions, an apology is absolutely considered mea culpa or acknowledgment of fault. This is why a good attorney will always tell you to keep your mouth shut, because ANYTHING you say CAN and WILL be used against you in a court of law.
“Alex yearns for lawsuits like children yearn for the mines” is the wildest sentence I’ve heard Mogul Mai Mai say EVER
Streamer Doug Doug creates an AI to emulate Pajama Sam and play Pajama Sam, and every incarnation of the AI was destined to continually return to the mines for literally no reason, even after being told it was a waste of time.
Pajama Sam yearns for the mines
That guy needs to be sued into the ground, and then counter sued for frivilous lawsuits over and over until he no longer has money for a lawyer.
does Ken McElroy ring a bell to anyone else? perhaps the RUclips equivalent should be done
Thank god RUclips commenters aren’t smart or motivated enough to be judges, everyone would receive maximum sentences 😂
@@achilles4655 the man’s is abusing power so someone wants him to get abused by power and you think that’s stupid?
@@natetherat2063 yes, justice should be equal. An eye for an eye fixes absolutely nothing
@@achilles4655 It literally does though.
I got blasted on Reddit for saying Business Casual's "case" against RUclips was ridiculous. Now here we are. I knew Business Casual was no good.
Your mistake was going to reddit.
Props to you. I watched that whole video back then and believed it :/
I got blasted on reddit for saying nothing
was ridiculous? he won it tbh
@@leflyxdvd His lawsuit against RT won.
His lawsuit against RUclips failed miserably.
Ludwig telling everyone he doesn't contribute much to society is just funny
One day this comment and my reply will give as much to this earth as a single sand particle at the bottom of the earth’s crust
Mogul Mail picks up that which Ludwig fumbles
Yeah, he's just good for the soul and the sanity.
A healthy and wholesome influence that the world sorely needs.
COULR OMG
Lmao this isn’t Ludwig.
I wouldn’t say you’ve inspired me to become a RUclipsr. More like inspired me to possibly double major with journalism because your content has proven that research, data, and personality can bring to light topics some people might not fully understand. Plus, your wit and humor keeps me laughing daily, so thank you for that!
aye good luck with your studes bruv
Obsequious
I genuinely love Ludwig because he acknowledges what he did instead of being defensive about it (whether it was his fault or not) for example what happened with that one creator who copyright striked him. He didn't once say anything bad about CGP Grey even though that channel almost got his channel deleted. He also said he doesn't blame him and that just tells us SOOO much about his character.
If i was Ludwig I'd be scared to show that little bit of his video in fear of a copyright stike 😥
That's the point of having a second channel though in some regards. Getting into drama on a channel that isn't as important as the main one in case something happens is a bit of a safeguard. If Mogul Mail gets taken down, he can just make a new reactionary channel since it wouldn't affect his main source of income.
no disrespect to you
@@chancefreely bro Ludwig literally says in the first few minutes that all channels by you get deleted. Not just the one striked
@@Phrate oh frick, nvm then
His usage of clips should fall under fair use. I'm no expert but I think he should be fine.
Best case scenario is that RUclips intervenes. But the process to get RUclips to intervene is part of the problem. If the platform wasn't so easy to abuse problems like this wouldn't be as frequent.
The biggest issue is that copyright battles is a legal issue and youtube has created a nonlegal way to resolve it(guilty until proven innocent). If more of these cases were taken to court it would set a precedent on how they should be handled. Unfortunately they rarely make it out of youtube. So we are left with this.
Or idk, don’t use any of his content
@@hackerkiller2131 What is this, your entry for the "village idiot's POV" award?
@@hackerkiller2131 did you watch the video? None of the content was sourced from the other guys video, it was just 3 separate videos that they happened to use the same STOCK image
It's ridiculous that a creator can get a whole channel banned for a (debatable) copyright of a few secs on a couple videos. No other platform operates like that, you can get individual pieces taken down but not rip away someone's entire livelihood
This is really upsetting. About a month ago I started binge watching Magnates Media. Their videos are super high quality and well made. I really hope the channel does not get taken down.
Same they make great videos
It's so frustrating that this has happened with so many people making malicious strikes over basically nothing so many times over the past few months
It is crazy how poorly youtube manages their copyright system. They should have a third party moderator who can watch the videos and objectively decide if they are invading the copyright. Having the people who abuse the copyright button be the ones to decide if they "made the mistake". It lends itself to getting more false accusations of copyright being thrown out there and not being done properly. With all their money that they make, it would be easy for them to pay a team to sit there and ONLY respond to copyright strikes. If the system was more fair, it probably wouldn't be misused because there would be repercussions to people's actions.
better than most sites tbh
@@piplupdabest what are you on about? Guilty until proven otherwise is not better than most sites
@piplupdabest list other sites because if I was a youtuber, I could copyright someone and if they wanted to appeal it they would go through me. If I copyright them the first time, I probably believe its true and won't take it back. RUclips has no involvement except trusting the word of the person who issues it.
The system they have is sadly necessary so they aren't liable to be sued by copyright holders. I don't remember the specifics but I think its called Safe Harbor laws?
It literally would not be legal to have youtube have a team hired to sit down and review copyright strikes because they aren't the copyright owner of the content so them deciding against one side would be grounds for being sued if they are wrong which they would be at least sometimes. It would be much more logical to rework how the strike system works on youtube but the people who have the copyright are usually bigger corporations which is not in youtube's benefit to make enemies of. Bad system and I hope youtube does a rework (and i believe they will) but I just hope it is a rework people are happy with because I have a hard time seeing that be true.
kinda scary how these big channels can just bully people and make them delete their channels without even doing anything, like think about it, if magnates didn't have a good social media reach on twitter and wasn't able to make a big hoopla about this situation, they would've just gotten the channel deleted and couldn't be able to do anything at all.
Makes me think about how many creators are out there who had like 10k-20k subs and just got 3 strikes and since they didn't have any way to get it out to the world, just had to quit
That is not true, being big or small does not change when or if your channel is deleted. That is still decided by the willingness of going into a lawsuit. But yes, larger creators will have an easier time footing the bill for a lawsuit.
@@0106johnny Ofc if one is willing to go into a lawsuit that's a different story but a small creator would never do that cause of the fees. Also the reason I say small creators have a big disadvantage is that unlike smaller creators since magnates is quite big, he was able to create a big thing about this on twitter which will prolly lead to youtube not deleting his channel while a smaller creator could never be able to do that
@@vic_710 RUclips actually is somewhat fair when it comes to copyright strikes (because it would make them liable if they weren't). They will absolutely delete big channels if the creator is not willing to defend their rights in court.
@@vic_710 not really. The channel will be deleted unless Magnate media wins the court case. This has nothing to do with youtube sadly. This is a real life case, youtube just adds layers so it could be resolved before going into court. The only disadvantage smaller channels have is that they might not have enough resources/money to win the case. Smaller channels can copy strike big channels and have them delete their channel.
@@vic_710 Because of that, starting now is a huge disadvantage that's as overcomeable as climbing Mount Everest.
Honestly, the way you humble yourself as a RUclipsr despite having almost 1.5m followers, and making a good point after, is pretty badass.
I feel like all I ever do is send thank-you notes to your channel. But thanks again for sticking up for the little guy. Any system that is set up can be gamed. When creating a system in which people interact, one not only has to consider the good actors, but also how the bad actors will abuse the system. The one who writes the rules needs to consider both.
Thanks so much for the coverage! Really do hope MagnatesMedia doesn't get deleted. Their content is far too good for their hard work to be punished unfairly.
Ludwig sharing news while rocking a Twilight shirt is absurd
This is mogul mail bro
I literally SCREAMED when I saw it 🤣🤣🤣🐀🐀🐀
I had this same shirt back in middle school and it was very jarring to see Lud in it haha
How?
You know that moment when someone knows they've messed up and are just too embarrassed to go back on themselves so they just run with it? I suspect this is a great example of that
Shoutout to Upper Echelon for a GREAT video breakdown of this situation! Highly recommend his channel for excellent journalistic content and covering stories like these
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@@c5dynomite The more you react to them, the more often they will pop up. Report and ignore.
I can’t believe Mogul Mail made a RUclips video about himself. Such a narcissist
Here is the full clip: that explains
ruclips.net/video/T_cjacm3KUc/видео.html
na that is crazy
This joke got super unfunny super fast after seeing it on every Mogul Mail video.
@@takeuchi5760 The Pyro fans have migrated over to this channel...
@@takeuchi5760 and you will continue to see it. If not from me, someone else
Three strikes against Business Casual should be done to prevent predatorial copystrikes. RUclips shouldn't encourage predatorial behaviors. That's morally wrong.
This reminds me of something I heard about a while ago where companies would buy up patents and then sue other companies that were using the products based on the patents that they now owned the rights to.
Ludwig: "RUclipsrs don't offer much to society."
Stans: *Visible Anger*
Here is the full clip: that explains
ruclips.net/video/T_cjacm3KUc/видео.html
Why are you bullying ludwig, he never said that?
@@kellenthemelon226 he says it at the start of the video… I’m not even 3 minutes in…
@@criticaltipper7699 Bruh this is Mogul Mail 🗿🗿
@@sushi-mayo exactly, don't know what these guys are doing, ludwig is my favorite gaming youtuber
I hope MagnatesMedia has enough money to sue Alex Edson because there is no way a jury or judge would find this acceptable
They don't and BC has enough to bleed them dry even if they tried to fight back, the reality of the situation is BC is going to get away with it because YT doesn't seem interested et all with the situation and even if they saved MagnatesMedia (doubtful) then BC will just try again later with someone else or even push the subject even more aggressively in the future.
@@Ark_Strike The american judicial system is a joke
@@Ark_Strike if MG wins BC will have to cover MG's lawyer feed anyways and i think BC's channel will most likely get terminated for false strikes
But if u know being in court takes a long time and resources at the end u will feel restless
@@Nemesis7980WP The "if I win they cover my lawyer fees" situation only works _if you actually win_ and you also need to pay up first, it's not like they'll pay them for you before the trial and its very hard to find a lawyer working pro-bono, specially on a complex case that could drawn out for months or over a year.
The worrying thing is that if this goes to court, there will surely be some old timers that dont know what editing is and will just see the face value that magnates is using the same images as Casual and they'll be on his side. Bro they dont even know how to turn on the internet, they for sure dont know shit about copyrighted content on the internet
Someone should establish a RUclipsr Union or a content creator union... that just lets youtubers pay a small fee (or a fee based on size and income) to receive help, support, and maybe most important legal aid in cases like these. Obviously youtubers who maliciously try to delete channels with copyright strikes would either get their membership suspended indefinitely or just not receive legal aid via the union. Could also help in negotiations with youtube itself regarding whatever. Considering how many people make a living by being content creators, and how easily that living can be removed, it's weird that there isn't something like this already. I guess the fact that most of these people could be considered as a sort freelance/ contracted artists, it would be hard to unionize, and maybe there's a "secret" line in the content creator contracts that doesn't allow for unionizing (but I assume that's illegal, so probably not). The biggest problem may be the fact that youtubers are global, and it would be hard to create one union that can help anyone in any country, but if you started by basing it in the US, or the UK since Europe is more unionfriendly, it should be possible to grow enough to help almost anyone anywhere. The financial side would require a major youtuber, or preferably several, to invest heavily in the beginning, but once the wheels started turning, it may quickly become self-sufficient based on memberfees
in conclusion, society needs more plumbers
It's a shit job, but someone's got to do it.
@@belliott88 My father was a plumber, and some years he'd pull in over 250k back in the early 2000's. If a Master Plumber messed up, people would die since they also deal with gas lines where I live.
@@iLL_WiLL_ i hate you 🤣
Plumbers make madddddd money I wouldn't mind changing someone's faucet for 300$ lol
Mamma mia my brother Luigi
They should have actual moderators physically check copyright claims. If the claims are frivolous and/or malicious too frequently, then that person gets striked and potentially gets demonetized and/or suspended.
Unfortunately that would take thousands of people to do
@@Phrate my idea was that by having such a counter strike system in place, there might be less people claiming as they'll think about their action before making a frivolous claim
Companies don't want this, bc RUclips will get a lot of copyright strikes either way, esp from major companies and if those take months to validate then YT will get sued by those companies. They're putting pressure on them.
I love this channel Mogul Mail!
Y'all should continue this 'Worst RUclipsr' series with Ludwig next, not sure if y'all know him.
we dont need vpns to use RUclips. neither for google or any of their services (the only service that does not work is google ads)
Imagine if Ludwig got striked for this
It would be suicide to do that, Ludwig would basically manhandle the guy for it
I think that's the dream for him, same way Hasan was so ready to act when Adin Ross tried to copy-strike him. You'd have to be stupid to attack creators of that size
Actually ridiculous that more people are trying to do a stunt like this.
I do appreciate the respect that you're now someone who is contracted to RUclips, putting your neck out there. If he claims your stuff and abuses the claim system to try to auto-delete your channel, you're not going to bat alone.
"Successful litigator" is an awfully polite way of saying copyright troll.
We should reopen Alcatraz for people who issue strikes :3
i’ll comment here so that ur comment is not just bots :”)
also i agree,, the people who abuse copyright strikes are so annoying urgh
@@palmierrW person
Nah, we got the zoo for that since they're clearly some other species
for abusing strikes? yes. it shouldn’t be for those that rightfully copyright strike (very very very small percentage)
nah
the food there's too good, ship them off to some desert and leave them
Can't believe that Business Casual is so busy that he can make these videos and take all these photos. Insane time traveler
Time travel? Don't be silly. Clearly, he's lived several centuries and was present when copyright laws were first passed.
how many replies do you have on this video holy shit
@@rexammus right? I've just scrolled and seen like 10 comments man
But the issue is not about the photos but rather about the effects done to them, the time invested in creating the parallax effect so that it could look cool, only for a "content creator" to decide to use them because indeed they look cool. Even it they are 1-2 seconds in length it is still the work from another person. What is ludicrus is that the guys who made the effects are not the ones issuing the copyright but rather the guy who bought the rights to those videos... which is how copyright works and that despicable Edson guy is entitled to it. Unfortunately he is right.
Saludos.
@@MikhelBL No he's not? It's transformative lmao, it follows the guidelines.
I’d love if you made a video about how you parse new information, journalistic tips everyone should know. Like what about that Don’t Be Evil video made you realize it wasn’t something you wanted to cover? I’d love to watch videos like that, and they might also provide a lot of value in the way that you want to
"It feels like I am just talking shit without making any changes in the Universe cuz I am not cool" Ludwig says this knowing perfectly well this will be a big massive support in raising awareness
I hope this video helps this get handled in a way that protects genuine creators. Magnates media deserves to be fine and the guy who bought the channel should be canceled for being vindictive and literally never creating anything.
MagnatesMedia is a threat to Business casual. Alex feels like his income will be affected hence the strikes on small details in videos. He is fearful of an upcoming great channel. Alex needs to get a reality check and realise that not everything can go his way... Magnates deserves victory and a counter-sue for defamation.
This really brings up the question of when you're selling a RUclips channel if you're implicitly selling the copyright to the content already in the channel, or if you're just perpetually licensing that person to host the content you've already made.
Bold of mogul mail to make a video on his nemesis ludwig
Baristas and waiters/waitresses are so important and need more praise
as far as Russia, the only thing that happened to us is that we just don't have ads and can't use youtube sponsorship and we don't actually need a vpn to access google and didn't need it from the beginning when its all started 🤷♂️
The claims that they stole his 3d effects are basically just Illuminaughtii's claims, and we know that is not working out.
I mean it's clear that the guy only have 2 choices, either sue him or let magnates channel lives. if he does sue him, which I think more likely to happen, we just have to support the guy at magnates media maybe like covering the legal fees and stuff.
This human excrement Edson will sue because Magnate used the word "apologize" in his response, as you can see in the doc Ludwig shows. The process was easy.
1. Create a sense of urgency, threaten, talk big how you defeated Russia
2. Get "I apologize" in response
3. OMG I WON HE ADMITTED GUILT BY APOLOGIZING, LET'S SEND THE NEXT 2 STRIKES AND EXTORT HIM FOR MONEY IF HE WANTS TO REMOVE THEM!!!! IF HE SUES I CAN JUST SAY HE ADMITTED GUILT AND I WON BY DEFAULT
Id be down to chip in a few bucks if it meant that sack of scum got handed a fat L in court
I'm pretty sure if RUclips finds out that he purchased the channel second hand they will delete business casual, its definitely against their terms of service.
Unfortunately it’s perfectly fine to buy RUclips channels. Take smosh for example
Every 2D platformer video game ever stole the parallax tech too. We game designers all need to pay business casual now :/
I cant believe that Mogul Mail finally talks about Ludwig. Truly Brave
i've known magnates media since he was much smaller, and i'm really glad that bigger youtubers are covering this topic to help him get out of this situation, i can't imagine what this must be like
I hope if it does go to a lawsuit that those with the means will step up and help cover legal fees to ensure this doesn't set any precedents.
I'm curious if Alex is prepared to go to court against basically the YT community
What's crazy is that this is all about a few seconds of stolen images while Ludwig is literally AI generating a Mogul Mail lookalike for his streams and videos...
Thank you so much for this video Lud!! I was hoping you would cover this.
To be fair one thing youtubers do help with is spreading information fast
Facts
Bro really is a business casual 😂
RUclips could resolve this by either automatically grouping the strikes so people don't accidentally give three different strikes
or by limiting how often you can strike so that the old one has to be resolved first
This is sad that there are still people out there who thrives on bringing other people's livelihood down.
i saw ludwig after an offline tv video and got a video of him reacting to "5% his viewers are girls" and i just want to say after i saw his video with schlatt on spyparty ive been watching everyday.
ludwig i love your content :) i know this isnt the best video to comment this under but ive never been so early😅
as a barista myself i appreciate the recognition
I really don't understand why youtube deletes entire CHANNELS for this. As i understand it the strikes are filed against specific videos, so just....remove those videos. Having a 3 strikes rule only hurts the falsely accused, it makes no difference for actual infringement. If you get 3 strikes and you are innocent of them all, you only lose 3 of your videos that way. If you are guilty, the copyrighted videos still come down so who cares?
Because in the off chance that the channel f's up again, it's considered willful infringement, and RUclips would lose its safe harbor exception status in the DMCA and become legally liable.
Keep up the great work Mogul Mail! Don't let that Ludwig imposter look better!
Bro you haven’t even watch he’d the video
@@super_dino341 I already know he puts effort into his videos lil bro. Just telling him to keep it up.
copyright strike? Stolen footage?
This looks like STOCK FOOTAGE
can we appreciate how long the guy in the back has been standing
Alex Edsen should be labeled a vexatious litigant and be barred from taking legal action. He’s just another Acerthorn.
Great video lud. But now that I actually think about it, this channel is just a really good and improved drama alert lol. I am ashamed it took me this long to figure it out.
Yes people losing their careers to individuals threatening them in a multiple of ways such as legal and financial is just dramatic, no way this could possibly for-shadow a more insidious goal.
@@ryanwoodlock Homie, OP is joking
The only thing Alex Edson could in fact claim was copyrighted was the photos, which aren’t his!!!!
The rest is transformative by nature if they truly were taken from his video and put through chatgpt, that’s still counts as transformative!!!
"I'll read this email verbatim."
*5 seconds later...*
"...and that's the gist of it."
If Magnates Media was a coffee shop instead of a RUclips channel and three goons walked in and asked for thousands of dollars to not destroy the building, then proceeded to smash every glass surface in his store anyways, it would be less threatening and damaging to his business than what has occurred here.
By immediately filing to delete his liveleyhood and small business that he has taken 5 years to grow and not allowing for negotiation. The only option is court if RUclips continues to not step in. Court will cost tens of thousands of dollars and a very significant amount of time. Having to close a coffee shop for a month to repair all the windows would likely cost less. I know it’s just online, but as someone who is working towards owning a small business, I can’t think of anything more despicable than what has occurred here today.
I feel like maybe the (easiest?) solution at this point is to have content takedown notices stay pretty similar but have content strikes be actively moderated and checked before approval. Preferably all the strikes, but especially the third ones, as they cause complete channel deletion. While not a perfect fix, it would still let most of the content IDing be automated and not overload human resources. This way, the channel takedown penalties with actual long-term consequences of the content ID system cannot being less abused by anyone to take down channels. Because if the purpose is purely for content, keep the immediate penalties (ad revenue, muting) and such where the money is just held as they are, but channel termination is verified due to how many people keep getting screwed by the system.
There is a tom Scott video that explains why RUclips can't intervene in such cases. The moment they "decide" the results of a copyright issue, they will be seen as a publisher and it will be RUclips that gets sued. If I was RUclips, i'd never deal with any of this too. As Tom says, I'm not saying this is how things should be but that's how they are
While this guy as cartoon villan I didn't know Grey stooped to copyright striking, I thought better of him than that.
the fact that youtubers have the power to basically thanos snap other people's channels without youtube intervening is pretty insane??? like you click click click and then "ok' says the bad computer and boom their channel is done??
He forgot that magnate media is an expert at company wars (since he does company documentaries)
gotta give you guys credit if there wasn't youtubers or any entertainment for that matter most of us would be really bored.
you guys provide us with something to get rid of some stress so i dont think you or any person in entertainment is inherently below us who work regular jobs.
Selfishness is just as destructive to ones self as it is to others and this man is on a war path. P.S Thanks for the vid lud!
What's up with people like business casual and illuminaughty claiming techniques on editing softwares as their own creation and striking other creators for using that??
I’d love to see him take it to court as magnatesmedia can easily counter sue as it’s a false lawsuit
I love catching a Mogul Mail early. Better than catching those early streams of that ludwig guy 🙄
As a barista I shall continue to take responsibility for making the world turn
Thank you Lovewig
Ooof 😂when the editor has the Ae file still, you’re done.
I figured it was just stock video/photos so neither would have anything to prove anything, but that’s awesome.
Ludwig in the first 1 Minute : "I'm a internet Hobo, I provide nothing to society...:
His Fans(Including Me) : My MAN!!!
Starting his autobiography early I see
"The dude YEARNS for lawsuits like children yearn for the mines." I died
I think RUclips should investigate when strikes are made against a channel especially when the strikes exceed one and are within a certain period of time, and if single channels or multiple channels are being targeted. Also, they should account for channel ownership.
“RUclipsrs don’t really contribute to society” that is such a lie, I never really had a father figure and I learned a lot by RUclips, it helped me to became who I am today.
For better or for worse, same
So they contribute to society, but in a bad way
"If anyone knows Alex?" Funniest part. You know he's got no friends.
That Alex dude just buys or gets hold of YT channels to be able to strike them I feel like, he just sifts trough the copyright claims window (that Ludwig has shown before) and goes like oh this one I might be able to get some money from and this one, evil bastard. RUclips should punish people that do such things, it's ridiculous soemone can get away with it.
5:05 "There the only shi... uh? stuff shown on screen" lmao
This just bums me out. But most of the time when I see shit blasted like this people fold or at the least see major backlash. Hope it works out
I was part of powerTV with a group of friends when those contracts were happening with Alex. I remember a call where Alex started screaming at one of the largest creators in the network at the time when we had weekly calls to just talk about how our channels were doing etc and then the panic when that creator was leaving. Things started to get really weird and my group of best friends actually all left with me. We ended up getting in contact with a man by the name David at Curse Network, union for Gamers and when he was shown some of the contracts he made some comments about them and not long after contracts that were standing and in effect for us were voided and we quickly hitched with curse, I remained with them for a few years until ultimately getting a better deal with Screenwave Media which is by far the best network i've ever been part of.
I remember many promises and few kept. There was always talk of a power TV Headquarters being made and we'd all be offered our own free creator spaces to record in a professional setting when it was done but we never did see any proof of where that or where the % of our revenue actually went.
It wasn't all terrible, Alex was pretty motivational with us and did push us to be the best we could with RUclips, I know there were a few channels he actually invested in to get them better equipment and help them out but some of those came with a higher split contract, Then there was the outrageous ones though that lasted far too many years.
As a barista, thank you.
Hey guess what. He now claims to be the founder and ceo of a company that was founded in 1999 when he was born 1998. A true entrapeunuer starting companies at less than 2 years old.
GREY DID WHAT?!?! My mind is seriously done for. He did THAT?
You earned yourself another subscriber.
I'm a maintenance man and it feels so good to hear from time to time that people actually actually appreciate us :D