Just one game. And you learn more from the losses than the wins. This is a new team and coach, still in building phase. Watch out in 3 years time, this team will be outstanding!
As a saffa, Ardie always gives his all, his a great player, remember this lose isn't the end of the world, once the coach gets the team to gel the wins will come, remember NZ when their attack is working no one can beat them on the day, Razor must just get his team to believe, like I said big springbok fan but really have respect for the All Blacks, will always be one of the greatest countries to have innovated the game of rugby, just one thing thou the panel of the break down show needs to be more realistic on their takes
No one hates losing more than the ABs. We feel the pain with you. Would like to be able to give advise to help but I’m sure u will hear more than enough thru the week. U will see what went wrong as u watch the replay. It’s a great game to play Rugby and the ABs are very good at it. Feel the pain then move on as no rest for the wicked. After all rugby is a game and you play it because u love to so go out there next week and have the fun u are suppose to, stick to the game plans your coaches have set, trust in yourselves. Thank you all the past players and the present and the future players. Up the mighty ALLBLACKS👍👍👍
Just leave more inform players like Sotutu out....I admired this man so much....he is simply losing his grip on proper selection and his personal favorites is now killing their game.
Let's not panic just yet. The boks lost to the Pumas at home several years ago, (Juan Imhoff scored a hattrick that day) and came back strong, eventually winning two world cups back to back. You learn more from your losses than your wins. Argentina are an elite side now. They're not the easy beats of years past. Razor's Crusaders lost to the Drua last year and still went on to win the title. We will be back.
This Argentinian team greatly reminds me of some of the fabulous French teams of the sixties! Big bold and fearless warriors tough as teak working as a united team that loves their country! No shame in losing to this side! They were at a higher state of preparation with a lot more games under their belts! Incredible speed and skill on their wings was exciting to watch again like the great French sides of the sixties. Remember Walter and Claude Spanghero, Benoit Dauga to name a few!
One loss will not sink this team. If you want to see the ABs pick up their game? put them against the Boks, it's like 2 different teams, Great respect for even a wounded AB team, they are still our biggest rivals.
Last year's World cup final broke these guys mentally and some players are still not over it. I pray they get stronger mentally and pray for their families 🙏🙏
All that clowning on Fozzie for all those years and for what? NZ Rugby just isn't what it used to be, no matter the coach. You can no longer just throw the ball around and win on individual brilliance, rugby is well and truly professional now.
Sir, in my opinion things are a bit different. How many New Zealand ex All Blacks players have migrated for better financial contracts than in New Zealand in the last 15 years, how many iconic players have "retired" in the last year and how many of those at the peak of their careers have retired from the All team Blacks to play abroad for more money? What was the basis for the selection of players for the All Blacks team 5, 10, 15 years ago and what is it now? This is about the mismanagement of the NZRU.
@@DDSistemeGraficeDDSistemeGrafirugby is a global sport now, we south Africans learned that the hard way with Allister Coetzee. That's why we pick overseas players
@@SpartanHighKing14 oh thank you from a kiwi! One lost game and the knives are out for the ABs. I believe we will be back and great again, we just need time and NZ to believe 🖤
Rebuilding ? Bullshit. Most of these guys were there last year and the years before. Playing the same style that Foster employed. There's no rebuilding. There's if anything too many coaches in the All blacks. The teams coached by committee
kiwis so quick to criticize - so many newbies so it may take time for Razor to bring the new guys to test performance level - SA looks unbeatable right now !!
@@Stereo_mike : Ireland beat them by the last kick of the game after the Boks beat them the previous week. The All Blacks are continuing to rely on big highly fit men running hard at opponents. They do not have the flair of the French or Argies or the innovation of the Boks.
Robertson looking at Ardie for answers in his responses... The body language is massive in this interview. A brutal lesson... and a hard watch as an ABs supporter.
@@DrissZyani-bu5mo You were one of the main ones slagging Foster off and pumping Robertson up boy. Don't let your mouth write a cheque your arse can't cash, hey.
@@tmac515 As a Captain he failed his men. It saddens me to say this. I feel no pleasure in seeing the All Blacks get beaten in this way. Ardie has had better days😊
I thought it’s good to see ownership of the issues and that, in my opinion, the subs performance let the side down instead of boosting it. Razor seems honest, open and strong and the future looks bright!
Irish supporter. Hard cheese New Zealand. Pumping rookie International coaches up is never wise because it's a double downer when the fall happens. Work in progress hey.
There has never in the history of All Black rugby been a coach who has been built up so much.... put on a pedestal as the saviour of the All Blacks. Unfortunately this is reality hitting home. Probably will be a sleepless night for Mr Robertson.
Funniest thing is that razor hasn’t made an impact on this team the way everyone was predicting he would. I know he needs tome, but that was an awful game plan and performance from everyone.
@@DarkMoonWayfarer Hes a sterling coach! Had a bad day at the office, maybe roast him if he loses next week. He has an opportunity to repair the damage.
@@tmac515They really need to select players who are just good at their role. Not everyone has to be flashy and have X factor. Your fly half doesn't need to run around like a headless chicken, he just needs to perform the core roles of a fly half at a high level. The same could be said about multiple selections in the All Blacks. They look like they're playing "hot potato" out there. Australia vs A.B's should be competitive and South Africa will grind them into a fine powder.
Really not impressed with TJ who seems to put receivers under huge pressure, or DMac who seems to just be there because no-one else is keen to do it. they have big problems in key positions.
Yep he let through the first try when he was stepped, threw a forward pass to blow another AB try, and kicked pointless high balls, finally threw a pass over Barrett's head which ended in an winning try to Argentina. Man how many things does he need to do to get benched? This guy has no clue how to run a back-line.
Jordan on the right wing, that's where he's always been at his best. Move Jordie to Fullback, Beauden to 10, DMac to the bench for now. Run with ALB and Proctor in the midfield with Reiko covering the midfield and wing off the bench, bring Clarke in, promote Ratima and Hotham to our top two halfbacks and that would be the backline sorted for the mean time.
Mate , we suffer from playing in at sub standard super rugby comp , we aren’t exposed to different styles enough so we live in this little bubble , the usual question being asked , we at the moment just don’t have the players we use to have . And the whole Nz rugby culture needs a reboot ie age group upwards. We can be better , but for some this may look like end of the world stuff .
Yes, and you could probably make a point that the NZR have put NZ rugby into a bubble with their poor negotiations and pettiness. They've shot themselves in the foot so many times there's just some mangled stumps now....
So on one hand you need the Aussies for Super rugby then on the other hand you complain about the quality of Super rugby. You lost to a better team, stop looking for excuses outside of your own players. If the All Blacks would have won, Robertson would be labelled a super-coach, and every current All Black a class act Super player.
Very true. What a timely opportunity for All Black rugby. The world of sport is full of examples of teams reinventing themselves at higher skills level and tactical evolution with commensurate results. The question is do the Kiwi's have the motivation to deep deeper on these issues ?
As an ABs fan, ARG were great. They brought the same speed, ferocity, and precision that many of the teams that have beaten the ABs bring. They took their chances, even as much as they were penalized (IMO for positive play rather than cynical). The ABs weren't bad per se, but there were some costly handling errors, like those two crap passes that led to Creevy's try. They don't seem to have gelled yet as a team and looked like a bunch of (good) players doing their own thing at times.It's only 4 games in, but they need to find some cohesion and get rid of the errors asap. If they keep playing like this, I can easily see them coming in last in the championship. AUS and SA are probably licking their lips rn.
@eugenesudi9661 so when you hardships and struggles your life comes to an end? SIMPLE MENTALITY brother, everything in life is hard that's what makes it interesting, you just have to improvise, adapt and overcome.
Well done, Argentina, but we were pretty poor. SA and maybe even Ozzy will punish us even more for our errors and poor decision making. Sam Darry was the best AB out there, and he’s a rookie! Don’t think Creevy changing his boots had too much to do with our loss….
Its still early days. New team, new coach. No one is harder on the All Blacks than the All Blacks. We as a country need to get behind our team and support them through it all 🖤
Still fascinating that the press haven’t discovered microphones. Very hard to hear their lame questions. Argentina played very well. The Kiwis didn’t get the bounces. It was a close match, and quite entertaining. Give the opposition some credit and respect. The gap between the top ten teams has narrowed. Parity is good for the game. Don’t look like your mother just died.
Nobody asking about the 9&10 combination. No one steering the team around. Two better halfbacks in the team and we have to find a 10 till Richie comes available again.
NZ Fans and media are brutal when they lose 😬. Some already saying Razor was a mistake 🤦🏼♂️. Give him a chance for goodness sakes. The rest of the rugby world has caught up.
Kiwi's got to chill in the comments. I'm pumped for this side and pumped for Razor, pumped for the future. I think Razor has a long term plan and I think the reason SA is looking so good is because of their investment in bringing new talent through has been in motion for years. Im hopeful Razor will continue giving new players game time and start to invest in new talent, there may be some highs and lows in coming years but I think Razor can build new strength and foundations. We are so hard on our players and coaches - SA has been doing it right. In the end Fossie seemed to me to be relying on mature key players to hold our whole team together with new guys not being ready or experienced enough during his term. Yet I also thought he cop'd it too hard from NZ, we still got to the RWC final and it was a close game. Razor I hope seems to be building new talent while keeping experienced guys in at the right time. I see a new energised AB team in coming years but don't expect it overnight. Have patience and be kind. Kia kaha
The expectations of some fans were insane. New coaches, new systems, new players. From the outside looking in, i think due to the weight of history anything other than dominance is unacceptable to some kiwi fans. But they need to realise fozzy wasnt the worst coach in the world. Razor is a great coach and abs will return to the top table. But the world has caught up. You are not going to dominate all the time for a whole decade again. But you will be a dominant team.
@@waynechurches2271 3xBarrett , Taylor, Ofa, Saves, Papalii, Reece, Jordan, Ioane, DMac, TJ, ALB are not rookies. Lomax, de Groot, Newell, Blackadder, are not vets, but not new either. Darry, the real rookie, was the best AB out there! Not playing like a Team yet, that is for sure.
The problem is that I don’t see improvement after the July series.. not clear gameplan… overall vs rush defense. Sorry but Holland McDonald are not the good assistants for all blacks !
All blacks will crush them next week. Good having a lost at times. Give us more knowledge on our weak parts. TJ should come off the bench. Onwards and upwards boys!!
NZ tier 2 nation confirmed??? 😂😂😂 You guys are so dramatic and hard on yourselves, still a great team and still could win the championship, if all goes right from here.
Different styles for instance hes more articulate than Richie ever offered. You go back at the press conferences its mostly hansen speaking and richie comes in with the “yeah nah” “yeah but ahh” comments which doesnt support your comment
Yes he's not gutted like he should be even Sam Cane was gutted after a loss Richie didn't lose many poor Razor he looks like he's seen a ghost 👻 if they lose next week his coaching team will be under heaps of pressure really nice man but you don't give your mates All Black Coaching Jobs starting to think Ryan isn't up to it either hope I'm wrong
Yup, one thing you knew with Richie, was he was a harsher critique on himself than the public. He was just different... Absolutely obsessed with rugby and performing at the highest level.
Will Jordan at 14, Beaudon at 10 Both must play the full game. Damien . missing too many shots at goal. Plus sto kicking away possession, ugh so frustrating to watch. Keep your chin up razor it's early days, We have faith in you .
Lets be honest, not all coaches perform well on the highest level. Razer is a legend with his brilliant record but he will need time to adjust as the margins at test level rugby is minor. I think give him time, as a Bok fan we do the same when we under pressure.
Oh for petes sake what is the big deal? Everybody loses. Razor has just started, you didn't honestly think it would be a smooth transition? Is he the messiah or something? Remember when andy farrell took over the reins for Ireland? At first he was mediocre, lost a ton of games and everyone thought he was crap. Now theres a portrait of him in every house, school and cottage in the country. Give yer boy some time sheesh.
Seriously, guys, With all the modern technology, this seems like an amateur press conference. You can not hear what the press questions are or who are asking it. Can somebody jusy bring these press conferences into the modern era. Whe want to know who is asking and what they are asking. This is not acceptable. Fire who is responsible for the format and tech.
A couple of mental lapses after scoring. As if where patting ourselves on the back. Need a ruthless mindset to keep the foot on the throat once we get ahead. I personally thought argies were putting 2 players tryin to steel and the ref allowed that. So, a few times a ruck was already formed. So, what they were doing was illegal, and even if we still managed to get the ball back it was slow. We lost in the physical battle. Didn't notice tupou vaii much during the game. Probably just pushing, but we have to win the hit and clean out, and argies bet us there.
@@Quadruple8888 Yes of course and I always will be. In saying that though, I know social media and the digital world are here to stay. But I don't like the way we are moving away from our humbleness(?) humility(?). Rassie & team made a great doco Chasing the Sun, but it was launched "after" they won 2 RWC's!! Same with Richie and DC's movies. In an effort to engage etc I think we must remember the pitfalls of "talking ourselves up" before accomplishments. Connor MacGregor & Khabib Namagmadov - great examples. Anyone with a bit of experience and age knows, all the power can come out of our mouth before a fight or game or whatever the case maybe. And a Rugby team and Coach are no different. Talk about it when we've done it, is best. We never saw Sir Colin Meads, Sir Wayne Shelford, (there's a long, long list) on doco's before they had Cups in the cabinet. I think the media or whoever is responsible needs to back off a bit and we need to get back to our humble old ways, positivity with a fresh understanding of why that is the best way to behave!! Just my opinion, (& everyones entitled to my opinion, haha). up the All Blacks, All day 🖤🖤🖤 see you in J.berg @ 4x8's 💚 ! X
@@swisscloud4309 from my armchair - bring beauden to 10, Jordan to 15 - they looked better with Cortez at 9. Bring Caleb on for Sevu for a bit of penetration. Reiko is such a strong runner that he needs to be their as he gets over the add line more than Albi. Jordie needs a rocket as he’s played portly last few games. Back row Most concerning. Blackadder and Dalton don’t look world class week in week out. Blackadder is more involved but lots of hustle and bustle and does as many bad things as good. Why not stick with Sami Peni? He needs time to mature. Bring cane back for Dalton for a bit of leadership and more accuracy around the clear out. The other option is to put Ardie back to his preferred 7 give wallace a go as he could be special but needs a chance.
From the kickoff there was no cohesion. We hardly ever contested the ball when kicked away. It looked helter, skelter. Our attack is so predictable. Grrrrrr ! Well deserved win Argentina !
Contempomi is a very brave boy!!! He is clever… and not easy to scared or to accept losing… that was he as a player and now as a coach… hope is a new era for us!!! Don’t debate so much… the All Blacks always be the All Blacks… the best team in the world…. Remind when you didn’t used to win RWC now that is fixed!!!
Not sure what the final stats were but it looked to me like we were beaten in every department with the exception of the first half penalty count. Several things that stood out for me: 1) helter skelter and insisting with it. Thats coaching and leadership or lack of it. Seems obvious to me that there are times in the game where we need to just slow it down and play the percentages and territory better and build the pressure. 2) our forwards on phase play look so flat footed. Too often do they catch the ball well behind the gain line and not make any ground and when we go wide we have lost 10 or 15 metres. 3) lineout whilst ok for the majority of the game turned to rubbish in the last quarter when it most mattered. 4) argentina put huge pressure on us at kickoffs straight after we had scored and that led to mistakes gifting them the ball back in good attacking position. 5) light years difference in the kicking and chase game. Our kicks were either too far or had no meaningfull chase like in the previous 3 tests for the year. 6) no short kicking game with the exception of the first try. 7) ALB looked very good but Jordie probably had one of hist worst games in the black jersey. Pretty big wake up call and the argies will be fizzing after this and you wouldnt put it past them repeating it again next week.
@@RubyDoobieScoo Well that may be true but we have lost 500plus test caps of experience since then …. Got to look forward to the future and breed some uncompromising leaders ..those positions we lost caps in were key ones ….
Faithfull saders here here........I am not certain that Super Rugby Skills for players and coaches transfers easily to the International game. I have concerns over razor being able to cut it at this level. Not sure how much time the NZ public will give him to get it right. Players skills aside, he was out coached by Contempomi.
I’m struggling to understand their game plan, it’s all over the place. I believe they should look at the Blues style of play eg keeping it tight, pick and go and doing it at speed to create space for the backs( coming from a chiefs fan).
I like Scott Robertson, but I first got worried about his mindset when I heard him in a interview a couple of years ago say he doesn't want to win 1 WC, he wants to coach 2 different teams to 2 WC wins.. kinda crazy thing to say before you've coached even 1 international team. ABs will rise though, no doubt they'll be better next week!
Razor should have been assistant in staff coaching international to learn the job. He was too arrogant to want only to be the number 1. He is not yet prepared to be number 1
He was probably referring to NZRUs hesitancy to give him the All Blacks job so he was looking at potentially taking on another national teams head coaching gig for experience
2 novice smaller locks and 3 smaller loose forwards. It was asking for trouble. We need barret and another big unit in the second row. Also need a big unit in the loose, only guy who fits tht is frazzil
Said it after the first game against England. International footy is different gravy - winning 7 SR titles is impressive I’ll give him that but he was overhyped and made to be some rugby god before a ball was even kicked. People were even comparing him to Andy Farrell and Rassie. Reality has now set in - he is smart guy and will obviously adapt but if he continues down this path of trying to play super rugby style in the international arena then there will be a lot more heartache to come
Razor is the man for the job ?? 1rst question ! Razor is wrong in many decisions : Bad assistants choice ( holland and McDonald not the level international : not gameplan to deal vs rush defense) Bad players in the squad choice : Codie perenara blackedder reece …OUT definitely. McKenzie can’t be the 10 .. not the international level ! Foster Schmidt should have continued !
Many players out now : Codie ( he laughs in the defeat this clown = career stop ) , perenara thanks you and go to Japan now , black Eder not the 6, reece ugly in the high ball , McKenzie out not the 10 level international, jordie out ugly In : tamati posoli bell sttiti Jakobson cane cortiz beauden in 10 , Jordan in 15 , combo ALB - proctor Ruben love on the bench and I prefer him to cover the 10 but overall not the smiling clown !
All Blacks are lightweights. They lack muscle in the engine room and no longer have a back 3 who can bail them out of trouble nor midfield backs who can make a bust like Nonu. I blame the silly game of "hot potato" known as Super Rugby where the ball is thrown backwards, forwards and sideways in a manic attempt to create an opening. In this crazy game, the emphasis is on mobility and "skill sets" (barf!) but this doesn't work at international level. You need muscle! What is needed are forwards who can move opposition players out of the way, both at the breakdown and in the open when it is necessary to get over the advantage line. NZ locks and loose forwards look like boys.
Losing a few games is apart of coaching, rugby and World Rugby. The All Blacks are allowed to lose and not automatically entitled to any win, let alone any home game, which is something they have been accustomed too
The biggest problem is that there are more and more sides who can defend what the all blacks throw at them quite comfortably. The back line play is quite predictable. One thing that does seem to work well for the all blacks in terms of breaking the line is the second runner cutting back. If it’s well timed they break the line regularly. Runners changing direction at pace. Maybe I’m missing something. I’m obviously not an all black coach.
A couple of lucky moments keep them in it and eventually get them the win. Dont get me wrong, good win and well planned, but it took a pretty poor effort from the ABs, and as i say on top of well planning, a couple of lucky moments to beat them. Not our best 23 and we also paid for that. It happens. Big deal, you dont see the Springboks giving two shits losing to Ireland, they bounced straight back against Aussie. Margins are small at international level and the Argies are no mugs. Those who say anything else are no clue numpties. We aint losing at Eden Park next week and none of the critics will praise them next week when they win. So there's that.
Greg Paul journalist nz says that there is disconnect between players and coaches ! Too messages ? So too coaches ? But the 2 assistants holland McDonald have not good! Wayne smith must make the hands now and be assistant.
Lost the battle on territory and possession. Panicked, made poor decisions, and then mistakes. ARG never stopped putting pressure on, and capitalized in every area. Back to basics for the boys with a clear Structure and rock solid defense. No flashy stuff and we will be a different team. Definitely need to kick for field position like the SA no. 10 and use our line outs to retain ball and basics to finish. 10 cents complete....
Some of the players let them down again and the defence was shocking and some areas but he needs to take it on the chin learn from it and see what he can do next or how he can bounce back
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Argentina scored 2 great old fashioned forwards tries. Good for them. They have a proud tradition.
Good for the Game! the world has bridged the gap and we are no longer the dominant force we once were. Cold reality
Shuddup casual
The most accurate comment in the list
That fact does hurt, but you're 100% correct.
But that’s the beauty of it all, we are the standard, that standard has been met therefore the standard needs to be risen
I wouldn't go that far but ok. We still have the talent but its being mishandled with poor combinations, and poor tactical decisions.
I wish that we could hear the questions posed more clearly.
Just one game. And you learn more from the losses than the wins. This is a new team and coach, still in building phase. Watch out in 3 years time, this team will be outstanding!
He and the some of the players won't get 3 years
As a saffa, Ardie always gives his all, his a great player, remember this lose isn't the end of the world, once the coach gets the team to gel the wins will come, remember NZ when their attack is working no one can beat them on the day, Razor must just get his team to believe, like I said big springbok fan but really have respect for the All Blacks, will always be one of the greatest countries to have innovated the game of rugby, just one thing thou the panel of the break down show needs to be more realistic on their takes
Full headboy mode.. 😂😂😂😂😂
They suck, they have no team skills, useless😂😂😂😂😂😂
Abs not good enough under pressure, fully deserved win for Argentina.
Looks like the Pumas have got their number
@@moosethe4th watch the 2nd game and let’s talk about responding to pressure 😂
No one hates losing more than the ABs. We feel the pain with you. Would like to be able to give advise to help but I’m sure u will hear more than enough thru the week. U will see what went wrong as u watch the replay. It’s a great game to play Rugby and the ABs are very good at it. Feel the pain then move on as no rest for the wicked. After all rugby is a game and you play it because u love to so go out there next week and have the fun u are suppose to, stick to the game plans your coaches have set, trust in yourselves. Thank you all the past players and the present and the future players. Up the mighty ALLBLACKS👍👍👍
Just leave more inform players like Sotutu out....I admired this man so much....he is simply losing his grip on proper selection and his personal favorites is now killing their game.
Sotutu caused a lot of penalties for Counties over the last week. He wouldn't make much of a difference if he was in the ABs squad.
They weren’t outplayed, it also wasn’t luck, they were simply outsmarted.
Actually all three
Huh???
@@Stephen-jx1hz so they were outplayed?
@@gc4610 no, only outsmarted... so... yes... outplayed
@@DeanMachine3333 so they were outplayed?
Let's not panic just yet. The boks lost to the Pumas at home several years ago, (Juan Imhoff scored a hattrick that day) and came back strong, eventually winning two world cups back to back. You learn more from your losses than your wins. Argentina are an elite side now. They're not the easy beats of years past. Razor's Crusaders lost to the Drua last year and still went on to win the title. We will be back.
This Argentinian team greatly reminds me of some of the fabulous French teams of the sixties! Big bold and fearless warriors tough as teak working as a united team that loves their country! No shame in losing to this side! They were at a higher state of preparation with a lot more games under their belts!
Incredible speed and skill on their wings was exciting to watch again like the great French sides of the sixties. Remember Walter and Claude Spanghero, Benoit Dauga to name a few!
One loss will not sink this team. If you want to see the ABs pick up their game? put them against the Boks, it's like 2 different teams, Great respect for even a wounded AB team, they are still our biggest rivals.
Last year's World cup final broke these guys mentally and some players are still not over it. I pray they get stronger mentally and pray for their families 🙏🙏
John Kerwin, wish was granted, hardly any scrums and All Blacks lost, whats he going to say now😂
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U can say that again.John Kerloose won't have much to say
Its Sir...
Looking forward to Kirwans comments and excuses
Exactly.
All that clowning on Fozzie for all those years and for what? NZ Rugby just isn't what it used to be, no matter the coach. You can no longer just throw the ball around and win on individual brilliance, rugby is well and truly professional now.
100%
Sir, in my opinion things are a bit different. How many New Zealand ex All Blacks players have migrated for better financial contracts than in New Zealand in the last 15 years, how many iconic players have "retired" in the last year and how many of those at the peak of their careers have retired from the All team Blacks to play abroad for more money?
What was the basis for the selection of players for the All Blacks team 5, 10, 15 years ago and what is it now?
This is about the mismanagement of the NZRU.
A man feel so sorry u... 😢😢😢
@@DDSistemeGraficeDDSistemeGrafirugby is a global sport now, we south Africans learned that the hard way with Allister Coetzee. That's why we pick overseas players
You keyboard warriors should just shut it, Razor said it himself don't expect alot in the first few games.
DON'T F#%KING KICK AWAY POSESSION!
Jeez All Blacks supporters, calm down! Its a new coaching team. It takes time for change to happen. Have patience 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦. All Blacks are rebuilding
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@@SpartanHighKing14 oh thank you from a kiwi! One lost game and the knives are out for the ABs. I believe we will be back and great again, we just need time and NZ to believe 🖤
Rebuilding ? Bullshit. Most of these guys were there last year and the years before. Playing the same style that Foster employed.
There's no rebuilding. There's if anything too many coaches in the All blacks. The teams coached by committee
@@peasant5612 I hear you but what is the answer? How do we get back to the All Blacks of old who consistently dominated world rugby?
kiwis so quick to criticize - so many newbies so it may take time for Razor to bring the new guys to test performance level - SA looks unbeatable right now !!
Ireland beat them . Vs wallabies, they have bad discipline.
Yeah Ireland beat them a few weeks back with a depleted side
@@Stereo_mike : Ireland beat them by the last kick of the game after the Boks beat them the previous week. The All Blacks are continuing to rely on big highly fit men running hard at opponents. They do not have the flair of the French or Argies or the innovation of the Boks.
yes its become quite sad. The Razor haters on stuff are absolutely disgusting, they deleted the comments over there. NZers are pathetic.
Exactly, this is a rebuilding All Blacks side - people need to be patient.
Robertson looking at Ardie for answers in his responses...
The body language is massive in this interview.
A brutal lesson... and a hard watch as an ABs supporter.
Ardie didn’t play or lead well … haven’t seen that from him in a long time. Embarrassing loss.
@@tmac515 perhaps. Maybe that's why Robertson was seeking answers...
Really hurt ! We will see now if really he is the man for the job to fix things or not
@@DrissZyani-bu5mo You were one of the main ones slagging Foster off and pumping Robertson up boy. Don't let your mouth write a cheque your arse can't cash, hey.
@@tmac515 As a Captain he failed his men. It saddens me to say this. I feel no pleasure in seeing the All Blacks get beaten in this way. Ardie has had better days😊
I thought it’s good to see ownership of the issues and that, in my opinion, the subs performance let the side down instead of boosting it. Razor seems honest, open and strong and the future looks bright!
Afkorse... And surfs up..dancing... Its about to get proper ugly... 😂😂😂😂😂
Honeymoon’s well and truly over Razor
Nz was very lucky against England. Arg just opened up more cracks.
Irish supporter. Hard cheese New Zealand. Pumping rookie International coaches up is never wise because it's a double downer when the fall happens. Work in progress hey.
Ireland the pacesetter.
Bok supporter.
You guys will get better
@@KernowekTim Must be hard for the Irish seeing NZ lose...😂
Too right, honeymoon’s well and truly over
There has never in the history of All Black rugby been a coach who has been built up so much.... put on a pedestal as the saviour of the All Blacks.
Unfortunately this is reality hitting home. Probably will be a sleepless night for Mr Robertson.
Funniest thing is that razor hasn’t made an impact on this team the way everyone was predicting he would. I know he needs tome, but that was an awful game plan and performance from everyone.
Hype finished and lost credit for razor now
@@DarkMoonWayfarer Hes a sterling coach! Had a bad day at the office, maybe roast him if he loses next week. He has an opportunity to repair the damage.
@@tmac515They really need to select players who are just good at their role. Not everyone has to be flashy and have X factor. Your fly half doesn't need to run around like a headless chicken, he just needs to perform the core roles of a fly half at a high level.
The same could be said about multiple selections in the All Blacks.
They look like they're playing "hot potato" out there.
Australia vs A.B's should be competitive and South Africa will grind them into a fine powder.
@@MrOrange187You're mistaken, I'm not roasting him. I'm commenting on the expectations of the public, which are unrealistic and unfair for him.
Would you please be able to mic up the media please? It would make the experience of watching these so much more pleasant.
Fully agree
Really not impressed with TJ who seems to put receivers under huge pressure, or DMac who seems to just be there because no-one else is keen to do it. they have big problems in key positions.
Damien Mckenzie to bench. Beaudy to first 5. Will jordan to full back.
Mckenzie returns to chiefs … danger for the team . Ruben love on the bench and better 10 than him
I was thinking the same after game
Yep he let through the first try when he was stepped, threw a forward pass to blow another AB try, and kicked pointless high balls, finally threw a pass over Barrett's head which ended in an winning try to Argentina. Man how many things does he need to do to get benched? This guy has no clue how to run a back-line.
Jordan on the right wing, that's where he's always been at his best. Move Jordie to Fullback, Beauden to 10, DMac to the bench for now. Run with ALB and Proctor in the midfield with Reiko covering the midfield and wing off the bench, bring Clarke in, promote Ratima and Hotham to our top two halfbacks and that would be the backline sorted for the mean time.
Mate , we suffer from playing in at sub standard super rugby comp , we aren’t exposed to different styles enough so we live in this little bubble , the usual question being asked , we at the moment just don’t have the players we use to have . And the whole Nz rugby culture needs a reboot ie age group upwards. We can be better , but for some this may look like end of the world stuff .
Yes, and you could probably make a point that the NZR have put NZ rugby into a bubble with their poor negotiations and pettiness. They've shot themselves in the foot so many times there's just some mangled stumps now....
So on one hand you need the Aussies for Super rugby then on the other hand you complain about the quality of Super rugby. You lost to a better team, stop looking for excuses outside of your own players. If the All Blacks would have won, Robertson would be labelled a super-coach, and every current All Black a class act Super player.
Very true. What a timely opportunity for All Black rugby. The world of sport is full of examples of teams reinventing themselves at higher skills level and tactical evolution with commensurate results. The question is do the Kiwi's have the motivation to deep deeper on these issues ?
As an ABs fan, ARG were great. They brought the same speed, ferocity, and precision that many of the teams that have beaten the ABs bring. They took their chances, even as much as they were penalized (IMO for positive play rather than cynical).
The ABs weren't bad per se, but there were some costly handling errors, like those two crap passes that led to Creevy's try. They don't seem to have gelled yet as a team and looked like a bunch of (good) players doing their own thing at times.It's only 4 games in, but they need to find some cohesion and get rid of the errors asap. If they keep playing like this, I can easily see them coming in last in the championship. AUS and SA are probably licking their lips rn.
Big ups All Blacks, no need to have your heads down,all out battle and unfortunately the ball didn't bounce our way, we'll fix it next week!
Hard to do that
@@eugenesudi9661 Why ?
@eugenesudi9661 so when you hardships and struggles your life comes to an end? SIMPLE MENTALITY brother, everything in life is hard that's what makes it interesting, you just have to improvise, adapt and overcome.
@bigchiefgaming that's a story for another day, but ABs next match against Argentina will be hard to win!
Well done, Argentina, but we were pretty poor. SA and maybe even Ozzy will punish us even more for our errors and poor decision making. Sam Darry was the best AB out there, and he’s a rookie!
Don’t think Creevy changing his boots had too much to do with our loss….
ahahaahahhahahahahahahaa bientôt le zimbawe va rouster les NZ
@@piratevolant amigo, argentina NO es Zimbabue, all whites
@@robertoraularias4306 Nabo, si no entendés lo que se discute no te metas!
@@teddydavid1026 The Argies just put 38 points on us, so yeah, if we play that badly the Ockers could beat us...
The big question is, win or lose, how many minutes of ball-in-play?!!!
Its still early days. New team, new coach. No one is harder on the All Blacks than the All Blacks. We as a country need to get behind our team and support them through it all 🖤
The difference is the revs is not letting cheat any more. Sorry but it's true
😂😂😂😂 is that your excuse for their loss, I don't think so they suck bo change.
@@gracepreston9995 just want to get behind my team. Maybe you should watch reruns of Coronation street instead and calm down❤️
Razor and Ardie's body language is truly awkward and pitaful. 😢
Yes don't think Ardie likes him one little bit definitely wouldn't help save his job like he did foster this can't go on for 3 more years very awkward
Still fascinating that the press haven’t discovered microphones. Very hard to hear their lame questions. Argentina played very well. The Kiwis didn’t get the bounces. It was a close match, and quite entertaining. Give the opposition some credit and respect. The gap between the top ten teams has narrowed. Parity is good for the game. Don’t look like your mother just died.
I think it is deliberate so we can’t hear their lame questions… why is the discourse seldom intelligent and substantial? Very embarrassing for rugby…
You will get there, Scott .
Razor looks like he answer to the players he needs to put the foot down and gain control..
Man just give the team a chance & next week our boys will get back up
Nobody asking about the 9&10 combination. No one steering the team around. Two better halfbacks in the team and we have to find a 10 till Richie comes available again.
We don't need Ritchie. Get rid of Mackenzie and put Plummer at 10. Ratima at 9
don't be too down boyz, on to the next one ay
Mr(s) Robertson just got rolled over... 😂 Well done and well deserved Argentina.
Now waiting for Springboks vs Argentina...
Karma for the way Foster was treated
The biggest match will be ABs vs Australia
We still have the rematch next weekend, don't look too far ahead.
NZ Fans and media are brutal when they lose 😬. Some already saying Razor was a mistake 🤦🏼♂️. Give him a chance for goodness sakes. The rest of the rugby world has caught up.
I know 😂😂 they can't handle a loss. Every home game is deemed an entitled automatic win!
Doesnt look like we can coast by anyone anymore. Thought ALB showed actual dominance but everyone else looked like it was training.
Huh??
Kiwi's got to chill in the comments.
I'm pumped for this side and pumped for Razor, pumped for the future. I think Razor has a long term plan and I think the reason SA is looking so good is because of their investment in bringing new talent through has been in motion for years. Im hopeful Razor will continue giving new players game time and start to invest in new talent, there may be some highs and lows in coming years but I think Razor can build new strength and foundations.
We are so hard on our players and coaches - SA has been doing it right.
In the end Fossie seemed to me to be relying on mature key players to hold our whole team together with new guys not being ready or experienced enough during his term. Yet I also thought he cop'd it too hard from NZ, we still got to the RWC final and it was a close game.
Razor I hope seems to be building new talent while keeping experienced guys in at the right time.
I see a new energised AB team in coming years but don't expect it overnight.
Have patience and be kind.
Kia kaha
Same thing that happened to fossie I wonder if you were calling for ppl to chill then also.
Great comment @zackjames1024 & I agree
Full headboy mode... Not good enough... Surfs up... And dance moves... 😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you! ABs need a fan who gets it.
Why is it a "shock "so there's no point in the match if the ABs were a given win
First loss under Razor. Not the end of the world. Its called test rugby. Trying out where we can looking at the bigger picture💪
Not good for his aura
@@DrissZyani-bu5moa lost can only make them stronger next time💪🏾
Yip, NZR did'nt back Fozzy so they gotta back Razor, he's got some of the brightest minds on his coaching team so it's onwards and upwards.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Surfs up...dance boy... AFRIKA... LOUDING.... 😊
literally 4 test matches with new, new players , losing 300+ test player experience. Which team can still be top of theire game?
The expectations of some fans were insane. New coaches, new systems, new players. From the outside looking in, i think due to the weight of history anything other than dominance is unacceptable to some kiwi fans. But they need to realise fozzy wasnt the worst coach in the world. Razor is a great coach and abs will return to the top table. But the world has caught up. You are not going to dominate all the time for a whole decade again. But you will be a dominant team.
@@waynechurches2271 3xBarrett , Taylor, Ofa, Saves, Papalii, Reece, Jordan, Ioane, DMac, TJ, ALB are not rookies. Lomax, de Groot, Newell, Blackadder, are not vets, but not new either. Darry, the real rookie, was the best AB out there! Not playing like a Team yet, that is for sure.
The problem is that I don’t see improvement after the July series.. not clear gameplan… overall vs rush defense. Sorry but Holland McDonald are not the good assistants for all blacks !
Shame... Lets get u started with +30..😂😂
All blacks will crush them next week. Good having a lost at times. Give us more knowledge on our weak parts. TJ should come off the bench.
Onwards and upwards boys!!
NZ tier 2 nation confirmed??? 😂😂😂 You guys are so dramatic and hard on yourselves, still a great team and still could win the championship, if all goes right from here.
That's a good response. Lets see if they respond positively with passion, creativity and critically a very sound defence.
Ritchie took any loss personally, Ardie needs to feel some real pain.
@@grunta101 who's ardie??
Different styles for instance hes more articulate than Richie ever offered. You go back at the press conferences its mostly hansen speaking and richie comes in with the “yeah nah” “yeah but ahh” comments which doesnt support your comment
Nonsense! I'll have what you are smoking. Ardie gave it all, and is giving his heart there as well. Get better used to losing more often
Yes he's not gutted like he should be even Sam Cane was gutted after a loss Richie didn't lose many poor Razor he looks like he's seen a ghost 👻 if they lose next week his coaching team will be under heaps of pressure really nice man but you don't give your mates All Black Coaching Jobs starting to think Ryan isn't up to it either hope I'm wrong
Yup, one thing you knew with Richie, was he was a harsher critique on himself than the public. He was just different... Absolutely obsessed with rugby and performing at the highest level.
Will Jordan at 14, Beaudon at 10 Both must play the full game. Damien . missing too many shots at goal. Plus sto kicking away possession, ugh so frustrating to watch. Keep your chin up razor it's early days, We have faith in you .
Lets be honest, not all coaches perform well on the highest level. Razer is a legend with his brilliant record but he will need time to adjust as the margins at test level rugby is minor. I think give him time, as a Bok fan we do the same when we under pressure.
He must sack before the 2 clowns assistants : Holland Mcdonald. Wayne smith must entry definitely in the staff like assistant attack
But fc the boy can dance!!!! Thk u Nzl rugby!!! Its gone get worse... Before it gets worse... Woke nation!!!!!
I put Martin Johnson and Robby Dean's in that category
@@henkstols9326 lovely encouraging words, thank you 🖤
Oh for petes sake what is the big deal? Everybody loses. Razor has just started, you didn't honestly think it would be a smooth transition? Is he the messiah or something?
Remember when andy farrell took over the reins for Ireland? At first he was mediocre, lost a ton of games and everyone thought he was crap. Now theres a portrait of him in every house, school and cottage in the country.
Give yer boy some time sheesh.
If we are going to have press conferences, how about a better sound system so we can actually hear what the questions are?
Seriously, guys,
With all the modern technology, this seems like an amateur press conference. You can not hear what the press questions are or who are asking it.
Can somebody jusy bring these press conferences into the modern era.
Whe want to know who is asking and what they are asking.
This is not acceptable.
Fire who is responsible for the format and tech.
VERY TRUE.
Argies were brilliant, applied pressure and ABs seem to lack the physicality to compete with them..
very true almost no response !
A couple of mental lapses after scoring. As if where patting ourselves on the back. Need a ruthless mindset to keep the foot on the throat once we get ahead. I personally thought argies were putting 2 players tryin to steel and the ref allowed that. So, a few times a ruck was already formed. So, what they were doing was illegal, and even if we still managed to get the ball back it was slow. We lost in the physical battle. Didn't notice tupou vaii much during the game. Probably just pushing, but we have to win the hit and clean out, and argies bet us there.
These fickle comments don't represent all of NZ. Behind you all the way RazorR, All Black, all day, everyday 🏴
Amen
I’m South African and I absolutely love this comment
You are a TRUE FAN, win lose or lose
Good for you 🎉🎉
@@Quadruple8888 Yes of course and I always will be.
In saying that though, I know social media and the digital world are here to stay. But I don't like the way we are moving away from our humbleness(?) humility(?). Rassie & team made a great doco Chasing the Sun, but it was launched "after" they won 2 RWC's!! Same with Richie and DC's movies.
In an effort to engage etc I think we must remember the pitfalls of "talking ourselves up" before accomplishments. Connor MacGregor & Khabib Namagmadov - great examples.
Anyone with a bit of experience and age knows, all the power can come out of our mouth before a fight or game or whatever the case maybe. And a Rugby team and Coach are no different.
Talk about it when we've done it, is best. We never saw Sir Colin Meads, Sir Wayne Shelford, (there's a long, long list) on doco's before they had Cups in the cabinet. I think the media or whoever is responsible needs to back off a bit and we need to get back to our humble old ways, positivity with a fresh understanding of why that is the best way to behave!!
Just my opinion, (& everyones entitled to my opinion, haha).
up the All Blacks, All day 🖤🖤🖤 see you in J.berg @ 4x8's 💚 ! X
Just come here to support my team, thick or thin. Keep working gents youve got this.
@@coachpg love your attitude. Totally behind our ABs🖤
Be patient with this group. We are at a rebuild stage. Razar will sharpen them up. 😮
Scott Barrett always injured ardies response is humble a real leader
Réal leader ?? Where was he on the field ?? The troops were dislocated
Coaching staff haven’t nailed the selections- clearly. Hopefully see some changes next week.
What changes would you make?
@@swisscloud4309 from my armchair - bring beauden to 10, Jordan to 15 - they looked better with Cortez at 9. Bring Caleb on for Sevu for a bit of penetration. Reiko is such a strong runner that he needs to be their as he gets over the add line more than Albi. Jordie needs a rocket as he’s played portly last few games. Back row
Most concerning. Blackadder and Dalton don’t look world class week in week out. Blackadder is more involved but lots of hustle and bustle and does as many bad things as good. Why not stick with Sami Peni? He needs time to mature. Bring cane back for Dalton for a bit of leadership and more accuracy around the clear out. The other option is to put Ardie back to his preferred 7 give wallace a go as he could be special but needs a chance.
From the kickoff there was no cohesion. We hardly ever contested the ball when kicked away. It looked helter, skelter. Our attack is so predictable. Grrrrrr ! Well deserved win Argentina !
9 and 10 replacement for Eden box kicks rarely yield fruit right selection is crucial
Keep heads up brothers still a big fan/supporter here.
Respect.
👍👍👍
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These guys had no idea what they were doing on the field
Gameplan not delivered or not gameplan at all
Contempomi is a very brave boy!!! He is clever… and not easy to scared or to accept losing… that was he as a player and now as a coach… hope is a new era for us!!! Don’t debate so much… the All Blacks always be the All Blacks… the best team in the world…. Remind when you didn’t used to win RWC now that is fixed!!!
Not sure what the final stats were but it looked to me like we were beaten in every department with the exception of the first half penalty count.
Several things that stood out for me:
1) helter skelter and insisting with it. Thats coaching and leadership or lack of it. Seems obvious to me that there are times in the game where we need to just slow it down and play the percentages and territory better and build the pressure.
2) our forwards on phase play look so flat footed. Too often do they catch the ball well behind the gain line and not make any ground and when we go wide we have lost 10 or 15 metres.
3) lineout whilst ok for the majority of the game turned to rubbish in the last quarter when it most mattered.
4) argentina put huge pressure on us at kickoffs straight after we had scored and that led to mistakes gifting them the ball back in good attacking position.
5) light years difference in the kicking and chase game. Our kicks were either too far or had no meaningfull chase like in the previous 3 tests for the year.
6) no short kicking game with the exception of the first try.
7) ALB looked very good but Jordie probably had one of hist worst games in the black jersey.
Pretty big wake up call and the argies will be fizzing after this and you wouldnt put it past them repeating it again next week.
Surfs up bro... 😂😂😂😂
Jeez how quick are people to chop him down …
Settle down lads ….
This ain’t gonna be a quick fix !!
quick fix? what exactly was broken? they were world cup finalists.
@@RubyDoobieScoo
Well that may be true but we have lost 500plus test caps of experience since then …. Got to look forward to the future and breed some uncompromising leaders ..those positions we lost caps in were key ones ….
Razor looks extremely worried, exhausted and out of his depth.
Or he is overated or he took bad assistants ! He must react fast if no his contract will finish fast
😂Afrika waiting...
Sir...???
@@DrissZyani-bu5moOh yeh, and who do u suggest to take his place...?
Nzl is woke... No pride!!!
Faithfull saders here here........I am not certain that Super Rugby Skills for players and coaches transfers easily to the International game. I have concerns over razor being able to cut it at this level. Not sure how much time the NZ public will give him to get it right. Players skills aside, he was out coached by Contempomi.
Dark day but a new team and we trust the boys. Let’s go next week, lads!
I’m struggling to understand their game plan, it’s all over the place. I believe they should look at the Blues style of play eg keeping it tight, pick and go and doing it at speed to create space for the backs( coming from a chiefs fan).
Sam darry outstanding.... Please put the whole blues team in the all blacks u will see a different ❤
Mike Bassett being called into assist razor
Sky Stadium is cursed 💀
How many have the abs lost there?
@@mattballantyne619haven’t won since 2018 at sky stadium. Think it’s 5 tests maybe 4.
Christ, and to think I have tickets there for the AB/Aus clash. Perhaps I should sell them to an Aussie.
It's Wellington
@@91chasethesun I blame the name change.
I like Scott Robertson, but I first got worried about his mindset when I heard him in a interview a couple of years ago say he doesn't want to win 1 WC, he wants to coach 2 different teams to 2 WC wins.. kinda crazy thing to say before you've coached even 1 international team.
ABs will rise though, no doubt they'll be better next week!
Surfs up... And the dance moves... 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Razor should have been assistant in staff coaching international to learn the job. He was too arrogant to want only to be the number 1.
He is not yet prepared to be number 1
He was probably referring to NZRUs hesitancy to give him the All Blacks job so he was looking at potentially taking on another national teams head coaching gig for experience
Regardless of who won and who lost.....That was a very UGLY All Black performance
2 novice smaller locks and 3 smaller loose forwards. It was asking for trouble. We need barret and another big unit in the second row. Also need a big unit in the loose, only guy who fits tht is frazzil
Darry novice was good . Finau in 6 and Cane in 7 .
@@DrissZyani-bu5mo Patrick at 4 Darry at 5 Barrett at 6
Said it after the first game against England. International footy is different gravy - winning 7 SR titles is impressive I’ll give him that but he was overhyped and made to be some rugby god before a ball was even kicked. People were even comparing him to Andy Farrell and Rassie. Reality has now set in - he is smart guy and will obviously adapt but if he continues down this path of trying to play super rugby style in the international arena then there will be a lot more heartache to come
Barrett at 10, Ardie 7, open to suggestions for changing positions 6, 8, 9, 12, 13, 14, 15
Razor is the man for the job ?? 1rst question !
Razor is wrong in many decisions :
Bad assistants choice ( holland and McDonald not the level international : not gameplan to deal vs rush defense)
Bad players in the squad choice : Codie perenara blackedder reece …OUT definitely.
McKenzie can’t be the 10 .. not the international level !
Foster Schmidt should have continued !
Not much depth at flyhalf for you lot, similar to Australia
Contrast the big tuff guy haka at the start with the desponded crushed body language of the ABs at the end.
Obviously, it's time to bring back Fossy.😊
Razor wants to cry
Surfs up... Rugby... Not so much... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉Go
Many players out now : Codie ( he laughs in the defeat this clown = career stop ) , perenara thanks you and go to Japan now , black Eder not the 6, reece ugly in the high ball , McKenzie out not the 10 level international, jordie out ugly
In : tamati posoli bell sttiti Jakobson cane cortiz beauden in 10 , Jordan in 15 , combo ALB - proctor
Ruben love on the bench and I prefer him to cover the 10 but overall not the smiling clown !
.. Its gone get worse... Surfs up!!!
There are better players to entry
All Blacks are lightweights. They lack muscle in the engine room and no longer have a back 3 who can bail them out of trouble nor midfield backs who can make a bust like Nonu. I blame the silly game of "hot potato" known as Super Rugby where the ball is thrown backwards, forwards and sideways in a manic attempt to create an opening. In this crazy game, the emphasis is on mobility and "skill sets" (barf!) but this doesn't work at international level.
You need muscle! What is needed are forwards who can move opposition players out of the way, both at the breakdown and in the open when it is necessary to get over the advantage line. NZ locks and loose forwards look like boys.
Please don't blame the stadium.. Felt like I was watching Australia... No innovation... Simple basics not the focus anymore???
Lomax and DeGroot should have a lot to say at review. Like for FS did we look at the Q4?
Imagine you expected to win every game.What a pressure on you to perform.Then when you lose all your fans are upset.
Then don't accept the job and you'll have zero stress.😉
You can lose in a close match and still have played well. I think the problem is the poor performances.
Losing a few games is apart of coaching, rugby and World Rugby. The All Blacks are allowed to lose and not automatically entitled to any win, let alone any home game, which is something they have been accustomed too
Wallabies got a big lesson from the Springboks as well.
Even Portugal is better than wallabies. Portugal scored 21 points to boks .
Embarrassing for wallabies
The biggest problem is that there are more and more sides who can defend what the all blacks throw at them quite comfortably. The back line play is quite predictable. One thing that does seem to work well for the all blacks in terms of breaking the line is the second runner cutting back. If it’s well timed they break the line regularly. Runners changing direction at pace. Maybe I’m missing something. I’m obviously not an all black coach.
A couple of lucky moments keep them in it and eventually get them the win. Dont get me wrong, good win and well planned, but it took a pretty poor effort from the ABs, and as i say on top of well planning, a couple of lucky moments to beat them. Not our best 23 and we also paid for that. It happens. Big deal, you dont see the Springboks giving two shits losing to Ireland, they bounced straight back against Aussie. Margins are small at international level and the Argies are no mugs. Those who say anything else are no clue numpties. We aint losing at Eden Park next week and none of the critics will praise them next week when they win. So there's that.
Woke mfr... 😂😂😂Surfs up!!!
Greg Paul journalist nz says that there is disconnect between players and coaches !
Too messages ? So too coaches ? But the 2 assistants holland McDonald have not good!
Wayne smith must make the hands now and be assistant.
ABs generally don't like playing under pressure, but this was pretty messy from them.
Bring back buck
New zealand have small players getting bullied all over field have to wonder what would Ireland do to both teams
Lost the battle on territory and possession. Panicked, made poor decisions, and then mistakes. ARG never stopped putting pressure on, and capitalized in every area.
Back to basics for the boys with a clear Structure and rock solid defense. No flashy stuff and we will be a different team.
Definitely need to kick for field position like the SA no. 10 and use our line outs to retain ball and basics to finish.
10 cents complete....
lol seen this coming😏been playing easy opponents and this was a tester not to be underestimated. A few team selections could be looked at.
England easy? They should have won one of those tests
Passion beats surfing.... And dancing... 😂😂😂😂😂
Savea is not a captain . We can see it .. without scooter, I didn’t see leader when the team struggled !
Some of the players let them down again and the defence was shocking and some areas but he needs to take it on the chin learn from it and see what he can do next or how he can bounce back
... But the haircuts... And the surferboy... 😂😂😂😂😂