WATCH: MSNBC panel GOBSMACKED to learn independents see BIDEN as bigger threat to democracy vs Trump
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- Robby Soave and Amber Duke react to polls finding independent voters see President Joe Biden as a greater threat to democracy than former President Donald Trump.
Director of Photography: Alex Rosen
Producer: Veronica Riccobene
Editor: Chris Sowick
Illustration: MSNBC/ HO Newscom
MSNBC: "why are regular people not just doing what we tell them?!"
Because we're all deplorables, duh.
I love seeing the elites being baffled by the behavior of us peasants.
its weird how us peasants control their career lol
An Elite glances out the window and is perplexed by the contraption with its shiny blade that the peasants are pulling up to his castle.
I love it when people say, "... democracy is on the ballot!"... do you hear yourself?
Witch democracies are they Talking about??? Is it the rich/corporate??? It’s not for the Advantage Americans family struggling to survive 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️😞😩😭😭😭
🧙♀️ witch-hunt
Democracy or Liberty? I'm not sure more democracy is what we need.
"Democracy" but theres only one right answer lmao
Our constitution is a real impediment to the Democrats....
Not a fan of being a democracy.
Big fan of being a republic.
But we are neither. We are an oligarchy
@@barnabusdoyle4930 alligark-olligark- thats easy for you to spell.
Same here! 🎉🎉🙋♀️❤️🇺🇸
The people who go on and on about "our democracy" make me long for monarchy. The Habsburgs had to be way better than this.
At least with Trump, we have an adversarial press watching his every move. With Biden, all we have are variations of Pravda.
The Biden flunky press only gets adversarial with Fox News.
Exactly what I've been saying since 2016.
LOL!! That’s a polite way to describe the “press situation” we have right now - I’m praying that we’ll see a return to a “watchdog press” that our founders imagined when they originally crafted our Constitution!
It'd be fune if they were watching and reporting, but most if what they report are things they've made up or taken out of context.
That's not an adversarial press, those are Democrat party operatives. There's a vast difference.
The lack of self-awareness is astonishing
Obtuse on purpose, I'd argue. They can't actually admit that Biden is such a disaster, that he makes Trump preferable.
We’re talking about Robbie’s pants right?
@@calebtate6723 I was thinking about MSNBC
@@raffiklausner5016 oh well, that’s equally valid 👌 less funny. More poignant
It’s not just MSNBC. I heard this guy from the Bulwark go on and on without even thinking that many of us see them as equally bad. Of course Trump fans like Trump, but I can’t vote for either of them. They are both terrible. Shame on both parties.
“We don’t understand why our relentless gaslighting hasn’t taken hold”
0:49 I love the smug, arrogant attitude that takes it for granted that voting for Biden is "right" and implies that supporting anyone else is obviously wrong.
This 100%.
When pols are in Biden's or Democrats favor, the media trumpets the news and how great it is. When pols are against Biden, etc., said media dismisses the voters as ignorant or clueless
An open minded person,.at this point, has to start wondering why the majority of the population seem to support a person that is apparently evil incarnate, racist, sexist, and a crook instead of supporting "Grandpa".
If I see a mass of people screaming and running for the exits,.I assume they know something that.I don't know.
When they say, "threat to democracy" they really mean "the wrong person might get elected."
I'm definitely not a Trump fan, but he's going to wipe the floor with Biden this time around. "It's the economy, st*pid" is still relevent.
I doubt it. Also not a Trump fan, but the Liberals' hate for him will never allow them to vote for him.
I'm definitely a Trump fan, especially if his team includies Vivek and Bannon, but I think the Dems will cheat. How else could they run a candidate like Biden?
@@jeffrp8388 They don't need to. Independents determine outcomes.
Hopefully, I can get you on the team: Both sides of the political aisle are corrupt with insider trading and special interest interest group payouts. Both sides hate one man because he threatens the piggy bank with term limits. Trump. We send hundreds of billions to Iran and Venezuela both who support Hamas , we send billions to Ukraine 10% kickback to the big guy, we send billions to Israel… None of this strikes. She was odd? Military industrial complex makes no money under Trump. He’s against war. people that support Trump don’t always like his ways but simply are trying to stop hyper inflation, the fall of the American dollar for the great reset, trying to stop open borders estimated 9 million people came through by the end of this year, cartels are gaining strength and power, trying to stop world wars… We knew it would happen and here. We . Are.
The only reason the alphabet agencies allow the politicians to get all these kickbacks because they’re part of the same team. Trump said there needs to be more checks and balances, term limits.
we’ve known media is corrupt for 20 years. That’s why we all switched for online, now that’s also co-opted. It’s known that alphabet agencies set the agenda in the media with meetings a couple times a week.( Twitter file and testimonies project mockingbird.) your manipulated by them telling you exactly who to hate for the last six years they use the emotions of hate, outrage, and anger because they’re the emotions most used to move a population mindset because most people are casuals and never will actually look into anything. Don’t be a sheep. It’s good versus evil.
Democrats split with rfk jr and biden, the jewish Isreal /Palestine and how Joe's is handling it, him sending all this money over seas, and the 700 bucks that laihaina got, pretty sure that's why the rock didn't endorse him this time. The party is so split and pissed at joe.
If anyone still somehow shockingly think MSNBC isn’t a left wing network, listen to “polls going in the right way” and review your understanding of the network.
Exactly she isn’t a political analyst she is a political propagandist. A true analyst just looks at and reports the data they don’t insert their bias into the findings of the analysis.
God help anyone who didn't figure this out years ago
If they can do it to Trump, they can do it to anyone.
Democracy is on the ballot while giving illegals voter rights is the dumbest thing ever😆
They drank their own kool-aid. And now reality has them perplexed.
This is so nice with Amber and Robbie and NO bjg ❤
My exact thoughts 😂
I agree. Nice to see Brie detached from this sh*t show...with no seasoning. I hope they both leave rising and stay here. 🙂
It was nice to not have to suffer through her screeching about Israel for once.
Are they the regular hosts? That would be so awesome!!
Yep
"the polling is going in the right direction"---nonbiased political analyst.
Right. The "right" direction is the direction she supports and believes in!
I was running last in a marathon but I was going in the right direction!
Just like it was in 2022.you will cry again in November.
@@jafiadaesther3955You're probably correct, lots of cheating in every election. And lots of immortal sick women voting for the right to murder babies.
They don't even try to hide it anymore.
Love this new Free Media segment with Robby & Amber, you guys rock!! 💯👍😘
Weird to see Robbie speak without a narcissistic harpy shouting over him (Bri).
Now he can lie and say stupid things without being fact checked!
Nah…it’s just that Robbie and Amber have similar views so obviously there wouldn’t be tension.
@@stikupartist3698Cope harder bro
@@stikupartist3698 THIS!!!!! LMAO! His fanboys would love that from Ms. Robby
@@343Films The only people coping are you people and the fact that Ms. Robby is inferior in every way imaginable to Brie Joy.
If you want to know what elites think of people, just go watch Nancy Pelosi's speech at the Oxford Union.
Holy crap.
Reason with a show that isn’t infected with TDS.
Refreshing huh? 🫨
Guy is,infected with tds
The amount of cognitive dissonance displayed by these MSNBC people is beyond belief. I am one of those "Independent" voters. I have not voted major party for over 30 years, but at least there were things that I used to love and admire about the Democratic Party. Not anymore. It's all gone and there is no way in hell that I want to see Biden back in office. I have not made a final decision on voting for Trump or RFK Jr. I don't even like Trump, but can easily say that I see Biden as a MUCH larger threat to our country.
Vote for policies not people. People are flawed by nature.
Vote for RFK.
Nice to see Robby without a yelling co-host. I had to stop watching his other program. Glad to be able to watch him here.
A leftist screeching harpy cohosts
YES! They need to dump Bri!
They found another cohost for Bri who is also a lefty and doesn’t challenge her as much. I’m thinking her bubble is far more comfortable now.
Yeah, didn't really like listening to his co-host on Rising. The Rising co-host, unlike his co-host on Reason, tended to talk over him a little too much and hog air time, which made the Rising co-host seem a little pushy, and I felt like she had a bit of a "progressive" agenda that was a little too predictable and also kind of hidden under a veneer of objectivity. I partly blame him for what I didn't like about Rising, because he didn't always respond effectively or push back enough on the hogging, but to be fair to him, he was in a difficult position with the Rising co-host. I grant that she's got talent, but she's predictable in her biases. Prefer the above video, put out by Reason, a libertarian outlet.
"I wish I had some really great insights into it."
Then go ask the people who responded that way, lady. They'll be more than happy to tell you.
My response as a network exec would be "then what the heck am I paying you for?"
Just play her the clip from Oxford Union, where the young gent reads of headline after headline of the liberal-elitist MSM saying how bad democracy and voters are.
It looked to me like the poll was who will make AMERICA stronger, not democracy.
Wow I totally missed that! Great catch. US media is SO corrupt! Good Lord!
I'm so used to seeing these two on The Hill that it's weird seeing them in another setting.
I love how the analyst says "the polls are going in the right direction." Not even the pretense of being impartial.
Gobsmacked is a good word
Sure, if you live in Britbong land. I'm not sure why Americans have started using it.
@@caulkins69
"Started using it" ? . . . . lol , try to keep up .. . . . 😅
@@user-mm1se7gy7e It appears to have been introduced to Americans by Susan Boyle in 2009, so it is quite recent. I know that probably seems like an eternity ago to a Gen Z'er like you.
@@caulkins69
Being born in 1957 makes me Gen Z ? it appears that you you're not that bright , now are you if actually think the word 'gobsmacked ' first came to the US in 2009 . . Bawahhhaaaahhhaaa
I like these npr style chats with the jazz opening.
The music choice makes me immediately like this show lol
Is this going to become a regular daily news segment? Would love to see more Amber Duke takes.
I think this is a weekly show.
She's been doing these with Robbie for a while now.
@@macsnafu I had no idea!
Oxford Union, "The only thing wrong with democracy is the voters."
That reminds me of something attributed to Sir Winston Churchill. When asked what he thought the biggest flaw in democracy was, he answered: just talk to the average voter for 5 minutes.
It wasn't Oxford Union who voiced that sentiment. The Conservative debater quoted that statement from a newspaper to prove his point that Populism was Democracy & that quote was proof of Leftist elitism.
Basically. Democracry as a system/principle solves the unsolvable governmental problem of how to keep the government's ideals in line with the publics. However, in exchange it faces two extremely large obligations
1 : the government must back the fuck off. You need private rights and liberties enshrined as unquestionable fact with even minor or indirect infringements being denied entry at the gate unless absolutely necessary. This means the government must actively choose NOT ro 'help' even when it can or thinks it can. In other words it can't pull an EU and 'solve' your poor buying decisions for you. This is because a democratic government thats willing to infringe on private freedoms without absolute necessity is simply mob rule with extra steps. I cannot intercourse your mother because everyone *_else_* in town consents, even a super majority is not sufficient if you're sampling third parties.
2 : you need a primarily post conventional morality population that is educated and will meaningfully engage on these topics. This is practically impossible as the percentage of people with 'true' post conventional morality (i.e. people who actually use moral reasoning to reach their conclusions, rather than those who simply use moral reasoning to justify their conclusions; it's a minor and near unobservable difference, but it can and does matter) is absurdly low. Without it however people will inevitably vote in accordance with mere conventional morality, which means they will normalize "well doing this is a good so we should do it" while ignoring cobra effects, knock-ons, the question of if they are even in their right to do it, etc. This system of judgement can be arbitrarily extended as far as necessary to grant any powers necessary however.
@@shirleybalinski4535 I was in a rush and also he's not conservative.
Democracy is the worst form of government...except for all the others. (Churchill?)
Amber looks good in this segment
Well considering Biden is going after the 1st amendment, 2nd amendment and the 4th amendment
How long has this frosted goodness of a show been going on? Nice!
HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR MSNBC TO ACTUALLY BECOME AMERICAN!
Amber Duke is gorgeous!
Everybody makes a fuss over how pretty Jessica Burbank is, but the more I hear her talk, the less attractive she becomes. And the more I hear Amber talk, the more attractive she becomes.
@@caulkins69 oh no. Jessica is definitely more attractive physically. Even amber would say that.
@@davidmiller11723Jessica for a good time, Amber for a long time 👌
God bless for Amber and Robby. ❤
Amber looks better without the fake lashes and Robby looks better without Bri spraying word salad all over him.
Fake lashes are for ghetto EBT people 👌
come on we all know exactly why... He keeps taking rights away...
Are you kidding?
0:50 - The optics of the panel reminds me of every commercial advertisement for every product over the last 5 years.
By "Democracy" they mean the Administrative State (CIA, Defense Dept, State Dept, etc.) not Democracy the way the Dictionary would define it. Like so many things today, the definition of words has been changed without a vote, which of course is very un-democratic.
Clearly if you want to know how independent voters feel, you should ask establishment Democrat "experts"....
A step in the right direction is way better then a constant stumble in the wrong direction.
He cannot do it by himself. He needs Ramaswamy to do that!!
Amen to that!
“That’s a bold strategy Cotton.” Anybody else catch the Dodgeball reference? How about the immediate response of, “let’s see if it pays off.” If anybody needs me I’ll be over here starting a slow clap of appreciation
*clap* [pause] *clap*
That was really well done as well.
I am also a big fan of the Ocho.
I was looking for this comment!
I knew I wasn't the only one who heard it and appreciated the reference!
People can see that these cases are just political law fare.
Love the dynamic with these two!
Please, do your own show!
That man sits in a strange way. 😮
Going in the right direction??? ROFLMAO!!!
Maybe most independents already think America is not a democracy.
Anyone watching knows it's been a kleptocracy for quite awhile now. But the way only out of that is to dump BOTH parties. When the hell will we catch on?
"The business of the American people is business"
Nice to see Robbie without the Press Secretary for Hamas interrupting him....
Keep these types of videos coming, too many voters still blinded by political preferences.
Unbelievable but blind and deaf all the same
I wish the trial was on TV
“Numbers going in the right direction-“ 😆 Translation: number are in the WRONG direction! 😆
Love the elite living in a bubble. 😂😂
Robby with the Dodgeball reference
Well, one has pushed laws that weaken democracy and speech and is trying to use the law to go after his opponent. The other guy is just a boogeyman and people think he's going to destroy democracy.
Exactly! A Boogieman to the Republican and Democrat establishment. I wish people really would understand that. They are not a friend of the people, Trump knows this and that is why they are afraid and making the judiciary go after him. I am afraid if they can't get rid of him that way they are going to JFK him.
Nobody's throwing that ring into the fire.
You noticed there's hardly a word about the Democratic senator on trial right now, only the Republican.
Because they don’t know or talk to anyone who doesn’t think like they do
"But we're right, and therefore anything we do to win is totally justified."
Didn't know you guys are working together but it's great seeing you both and of course became a subscriber to the channel.
Just means they think your policies suck and they do!!
Del Percio seems in the 90IQ space. Good grief
Their Little Bubbles must feel so cozy
I’d like to see the statistical sample used for the survey. I could survey my family and they would see me as a front runner for President.
It's amazing. They CANNOT see outside of their bubble. And why wouldn't they beat the same drums they beat in 2020? It worked for them then, and they're too insulated to see that it's not working now.
Supernatural levels of copium and denial, LOL
They live in a bubble
Holyshit! Its 100% Bri-dozer free!
We the people decide what democracy is.
The right direction??
HTF can the majority be an outlier?😂😂 The cope is unreal!
They had to lie to themselves first before they could preach the narrative.
play stupid games win stupid prizes! These elites are stuck in a bubble of their own making
"Fortified election".
Its simple. That woman in the first response is incapable of understanding that anyone doesn't agree with her.
The way she pivots to "maybe it's an outlier" affirms this: she cant fathom people disagreeing with her worldview ergo "the poll must be wrong and people do agree with me".
Delulu personified.
Love this.
Is this is joke?
Robbie and Amber are wearing the same pants, just different colors.
Robbie. He was president with Paul Ryan blocking every reform.
Did you guys leave the Hill?
At this point as much as I hate to do it, im leaning more towards voting for Trump to punish the democratic party. See how their ego does with that!
I hope to get you on the team by explaining what we’re up against. Trump is far from perfect. But he can get the job done. Both sides of the political aisle are corrupt with insider trading and special interest interest group payouts. Both sides hate one man because he threatens the piggy bank with term limits. Trump. We send hundreds of billions to Iran and Venezuela both who support Hamas , we send billions to Ukraine 10% kickback to the big guy, we send billions to Israel… None of this strikes. She was odd? Military industrial complex makes no money under Trump. He’s against war. people that support Trump don’t always like his ways but simply are trying to stop hyper inflation, the fall of the American dollar for the great reset, trying to stop open borders estimated 9 million people came through by the end of this year, cartels are gaining strength and power, trying to stop world wars… We knew it would happen and here. We . Are.
The only reason the alphabet agencies allow the politicians to get all these kickbacks because they’re part of the same team. Trump said there needs to be more checks and balances, term limits.
we’ve known media is corrupt for 20 years. That’s why we all switched for online, now that’s also co-opted. It’s known that alphabet agencies set the agenda in the media with meetings a couple times a week.( Twitter file and testimonies project mockingbird.) your manipulated by them telling you exactly who to hate for the last six years they use the emotions of hate, outrage, and anger because they’re the emotions most used to move a population mindset because most people are casuals and never will actually look into anything. Don’t be a sheep. It’s good versus evil.
You will be punishing yourself. You will even back here next year.
RFK
@@jafiadaesther3955 What? That didn’t even make sense. And we desperately have to get Biden out, he’s been the worst president we’ve ever had.
Vote RFK
I am talking about the Democratic Party leaders.
These talking heads are in a bubble that have no interaction with anyone that thinks differently than they do.
We are a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY, and NOT a democracy. Not everyone can go to Washington to vote on a bill, so we vote in representatives (members of Congress and the Senate) to go to Capital Hill to vote for us. Also, taking your opponents name off the ballot in states and trying to put him in prison with one false lawsuit after another is certainly not democracy.
As if anybody would ever expect a commentator from MSNBC to to have any great insight
Why is this guy wearing leggings?
Robbie's "leggings" (I guess that's what they're called) are really tight, like spandex. Who ever dresses him should be fired.
I left the GOP approx. 12 years ago but will absolutely be voting for Trump in 2024. I wish there was another viable option though.
Apparently Robbie was not aware there would be full body shots in this segment. He looks ooks great in the closeup shots, and then they go to the wide shots and you see the high-water stretchy skinny pants with the white socks and ugly shoes.
If the media pundits were independent and rational in their thinking, this is actually a pretty simple answer to ‘why’. And I’m not a Trump voter
Robby doesn't know the case. Be accurate.
We are a Republic and just because a Nation has voting does not make you a democracy. If anything we are two party system combined with an oligarchy or corporate run machine.
Robby and Amber??? Noice.
She can't make sense out of it because she makes no sense herself !
Yay Robby without Bre. I stopped watching the rising due to her obnoxiousness.
Amber fire the hill make up artist.
It that woman guest sitting on that guys lap?
Blew no matter WHO 🎭
🧠🪱 vs 🍊🎭🍦
GOSMACKED -- ????? Reason TV ... please stop the BS banner.
More regulations than any president before Biden …helloooooo