@PaMuShin great ideas, when Sifu gets back in town we plan on doing a podcast! And we will upload footage of the seminar he just hosted in Berlin last week.
Are these concepts applicable also when you are in a muay Thai or boxing stance? What are the adjustments? Do these drills work also on the ground and/or with your back against the wall?
This guy is showing you the external mechanics. Very cool but there are levels to it. I suggest that you check out Nima King to get introduced to the internal force that powers it all. That will really blow your mind. He's in some of the Martial Man episodes and has a school in Hong Kong.
Ok, I like this Guy! Any trainer willing to take a smack to the face to teach is a trainer I'll learn from. "Go ahead Bro hit me, I'm not worried about getting hurt I'm worried about making you good". Top notch!
Finally a correct Bong Sau. Somewhere in the past 40 yrs the tradition has been lost. Because it was always said, “Bong Sau is seen in Transition.” You don’t throw it up as a *Block* but rather it is a transitional movement that is created by situational awareness. This video is a gem among all of RUclips. Also, lol this is probably the cleanest, neatest Kungfu school I’ve ever seen
@@MYVLMA I do not disagree, but for example Hawkins Cheung teaches active bong sau too, but it is to literally "lift" (unbalance opponents) through their fook sau in chia sao for example... Both Bongs are correct, and the way I described it still not a block, but you can generate spiral force with your bong, if you have contact already, you can turn the person, unbalance them, or just jam their movement
Sifu Milos is an extraordinary teacher! It's teaching the consept of sticky hands very good! I did 3 years Wing Chun ( Gary lam lineage) with very good teachers in Greece. Most People doesn't know, that Wing Chun is not only a Martial Art, but it's like BODY SCIENCE! Thank you for your efforts, for all traditional Martial Arts! I wish you health and prosperity! 🙏
I teach Martial Arts for over 10 years by now. I have watched thousands of Vids on MA. This is by far the most understandable, most applicable video I have ever seen. Thanks a lot!
Best explanation of the drill. Thanks for posting. There are many people who are talented at performing the techniques, but most are not good at communicating.
I love it. It reminds me of Kali Kombat, it's a CQC martial art that fuses panantukan, escrima, and 52 blocks. Reminds me of their trapping, which I see obviously comes from Wing Chun, which makes perfect sense.
Sifu Miloš this is an amazing video! Your explanation and demonstration / live lesson with Coach Ian. My Mind is blown away. I spent 4 months learned WC at another school and am still confused and don't know how any of the drills work or how to use them in action but your video did what 4 months of me going to another school couldnt do. Your explanation of Chi sau, the Sunken elbow conept and especially how to use Bong Sau is used and the when to use it! Detailed yet so Concise Sifu! This explanation of Chi sau is the best I've ever seen online and connects to almost all ranges of fighting. This reminds me a bit of the old Boxers and Puglist's Thank you again Sifu Miloš and Coach Ian.
Dig it ! love Milos's practicality & flexibility how he adapts the Wing Chun style to meet the modern & of course the fella who is always searching & perfecting !!
I did the reverse same thing and learned a lot about grappling, but I used to teach Wing Chun and this is the kind of exercise I would immediately start with martial artists from other styles - that way, they come back as they can see the point of your art, and you can learn from them. A very good video.
SO right!!! We do something similar in Kyo-Jitsu Ryu. The opponent is the train. We are the track. The track DOES nothing except be a track. Yet, the train turns. The faster and more powerful the train, the faster it turns.
Without taking any merit; 2:03 This worked particularly well because of your bjj background where you learnt how to relax and follow flow in the first place. Amazingly done, thanks for sharing 👍🙏
This an excellent demonstration of openness between two high level martial artists. You could see the lightbulb moments come on. Very enjoyable to watch and love your teaching style 🙏
I would like to see more sparring footage, as I am fascinated and curious as to how these techniques would look in sparring. As well as how they would look in live grappling situations.
Sean Strickland's long guard is kind of like Wing Chun. And some Wing Chun people forget to retract their hands once they are too far . Strickland retracts both his hands into modified philly shell once he is too far, which is the correct thing to do.
Wow, thanks for the Video, man! What a great teacher! By the way: Now have a look at okinawan Karate again. Because this is the distance, most of the "katas" are really meant for. Example 13:51: Your reaction leads to a position EXACTLY teached this way by Gojus Kata "Shisochin". Give it a quick research, you will see by yourself easyly. In Okinawa this type of (chisao-like) exercises are called "Kakie". Without knowing (and practicing) this type of contact and close distance, Karate and its Katas would be senseless indeed. Also superinteresting to see you adapt quickly to your technics. Thanks for this demonstration!
@@MYVLMA Uhhhh sorry, its your Chanel! Didnt notice it 😅 The note about okinawan karate was more made for your buddy in the video. Maybe its interesting anyway.
I am taken back to my Wing Chun training days here, and it feels great. Anyone who thinks Wing Chun isn't actually effective in a fight hasn't trained it properly. Great video.
@@TheKrodin thank you, unfortunately many people are just ignorant and the lack of good instructors teaching the correct technique and mindset doesn’t help our art. Thanks for your comment and have a a blessed day.
@@francocremasco6720 thank you for your kind words. We appreciate our students and it would be a disservice to them if they didn’t get to try out and feel what we teach them. Thanks for your support and have a blessed day.
You can see that Wing Chun is a standup grappling system and can easily set up a variety of throws. You will also note that Wing Chun is a vicious Elbow system.
6:39 saam teem using the in hand as a hit. He was impressed. That was awesome. Teacher showed him a fook sao control Fox paw. Now he knows that once he touches a hand, to go in with it, put em on the defense. That was cool. I watch his show too.” 💯🙏😎
Great video i learned the chi na grappling in my wing chun years ago its part of wing chun just like strikes throws etc its the human body it's nice to see other sifu teach this😊
This is what WT'lers have been missing: an openness to other martial artists and the skill to back it up. There is a commenter below who said he would like to see this used under sparring conditions. I'll second that - but I know how it usually ends.
Great work explaining these interesting concepts 😊 I'm interested in how on a strategic and technique level you apply these concepts in a context with head butts, is it a consideration in your training? What is your approach? Good job on the video!
I am extremly skeptical of Wing Chun, and I have to say this is probably one of if no the best demonstrations of why Wing Chun may have some value. I really wish people that try to trash talk about "teh street" would take note of this. Instead of trying to make claims about being better in a no rules environment, actually show the Chun working with resistance. This is a much better demonstration that just making claims about street fighting as an excuse.
@@volatileepiphanies5547 WC has a bad rep because 99% of the Instructors are incompetent and don’t commit to its true values. Thanks for your comment and subscribe for more content coming soon!
@@MYVLMA if you meet masters like Milos you just feel helpless. I practiced WT 30 years ago with Sifu Schembri in Switzerland and had that experience weekly
Most Kung fu master actually only train kung fu as hobby, if you match it with who train professionally, they can destroy it😅 it is hard to find really good master, even BJJ that very young already move in direction of kung fu😂
@@MYVLMA I agree with this. Mine 1st WC club was good and instructor was good at explaining practical application, not only blindly training techniques and we alos done a lot of sparing, but when I moved to larger city for my studies at university I only found one WC club that was in other 99%, so I trained by myself and with friend I got at university that was black belt in shotokan karate, and later found Judo club that had good instructor and trained that also (I visited ~10 MA clubs and only 1 had good instructor). P.S. Pozdrav iz Srbije.
Is this Wing Tsunami ha...I went to an Emin Boztee seminar long ago around 2000, is this same Tsun lineage. I am only to use a Straight Blast in MMA in 2000, and again in 2001 in Daidojuku
I would like to see more videos with this Ving Tsun teacher because he is excellent. I noticed IIan constantly tried to show this teacher what he does with his grappling or striking as the Sifu is trying to teach. There is a time and place for that but not when you are getting a lesson from another teacher. I realize this current generation did not learn that or possibly could not understand that. Even with that Sifu Milos continued to make the lesson/demo work for youtube. But a lot of Sifu's would say something like are you here to learn or are you here to teach me what you do? I am sure IIan is a very nice guy and he does not realize its disrespectful to constantly show what you do when your in an actual lesson but empty your cup man with all respect.🙏
I understand where you're coming from entirely, however, part of this video was to help Ilan understand how to close the mid gap range WT style. Anyways, it greatly showed how well WT can compliment other styles such as BJJ in this case. I myself think it was actually rather impressive to see Ilan follow through with his own attacks or takedowns after such a brief introduction to chi sau-- you can tell he is a very skilled martial artist in his own right and I don't think he was there for just a straight and pure WT lesson or else I'm sure he would have emptied his cup and taken in the lesson itself more.
Thank you very much for your comment! Yes, you are right in general, and I have approached a lot of martial artists as you described. But Ilan is very different and exceptional! That´s why I like him so much and I am looking forward to do more stuff with him. Just a little bit of background info. We talked about all those things and I encouraged him to do what ever he wants or needs to do, to see and experience if it works for or on him. So, everything what we do is agreed between us. Ilan is a true fighter and martial artist who would never cross lines! I share the same opinion like you do, about respecting a teacher and his work and so does Ilan. I like that people like you address awareness about traditional values.
Sifu is so confident and un- insecure that he doesn't even care but I see what you're saying plus if elan keeps it up that problem won't exist in the future
Isn't this quite true? I think it's close to the fusion of wrestling and punching of UFC champion DC. I was only disappointed with this kind of thing, but this might be good.
@@lovelife1867 Only because you were not taught when & how to apply WC techniques for different range; expecting fights in the old ways and classifying as Traditional. Sad!
I mean…this is beautiful but not functional. There have been zero serious kung fu champions in MMA. IF you train this and get into a street fight with a high school wrestler…they’re gonna beat yo arse! This would work with a drunken bar idiot…maybe. If you’re only going to train 1 martial art it better be jiu jitsu. It’s the only 1 that offers replicable results regardless of Body type or power. If you can train two or 3….Jits, wrestling, muythai, and maybe a little boxing. Then your Batman. Leave the kung fu for the movies. It’s where it belongs….along with Aikido.
I take your point, but bear in mind that MMA is a sport, and WC is only designed to hurt people. You can't use an eye gouge or a throat strike in MMA, both of which are standard parts of WC. The principle problem I have with using JJ in a street-fight is that if you have more than one adversary, or are on the ground, and the person you are fighting has friend, you have a problem.
@@KBJ58You have a problem if you’re outnumbered and alone regardless. Good idea to run not fight in those scenarios. 2 slightly competent guys are gonna beat yo whatever trained arse. In any case…if you are going to train 1 martial art you are far better with grappling. If you want to really learn how to defend yourself a competent MMA program which mostly incorporates Wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, and Muy Thai…in which I have trained all 3. Lastly I would say …I grew up in chicago in riot gang style fighting. I was actually charged with Mob Action as a kid which is 5 or more people fighting. That’s how bad the gang violence is out there…there’s a law to combat it. I was a good wrestler (placed in state) and all my friends were Jiu Jitsu practicioners under Bob Schermer. We never had a problem. Like we smoked everyone. I’ve been jumped by gangs of bloods, crypts, 4 corner hustlers, mobbed up cats, etc. Even my high school wrestling was no match for grown men. I’ve had to run plenty of times when by myself but I’ve tuned up several people at once with grappling and a group of us was always dominating. If you tried to use some nonsense like wing chun in the streets of chicago you would be talking funny at this point. It’s not functional. Fighting is messy and chaotic not beautiful. You must have a foundation that works on world class guys. We already know the functional list and kung fu ain’t on it. As I told the master here…It’s style points or sneak attacks at best. Like a reversal in football…it never works but if you catch someone off guard…touchdown! I could see busting out some wing chun or Aikido crazy technique to surprise someone…and that may work once and a while but it’s not repeatable and hence not very functional. if you build a self defense foundation on something like Aikido or Kung Fu you’re building a house of cards that a good high school wrestler could blow over. Listen…I’ve blown them over personally. I smashed a kung fu cat in Boston…tried to claw my eyes out with that stupid technique. I double legged him and head butted him and SCENE that was it. This is not controversial. The experiment has been done. I just hate to see this nonsense perpetuated. It’s gonna get you or others you think you can protect hurt.
@@MJLambert Simple! To reach a high level of WC takes a lifetime, and those in MMA would rather train in purely physical stuff and disabled by the time they reach 5o's. Same reason why JKD was started. BTW JKD with its broken rhythm has been successfully applied by former & current UFC champions. Furthermore, WC is more effective in combat where all of the above techniques come into play in a given short space of time.
Leave your suggestions here!
@PaMuShin great ideas, when Sifu gets back in town we plan on doing a podcast! And we will upload footage of the seminar he just hosted in Berlin last week.
Suggestions? Fight a boxer! Sorry but you asked for it 😂
Greetings from an old leung ting practitioner from spain my friend.
Are these concepts applicable also when you are in a muay Thai or boxing stance? What are the adjustments? Do these drills work also on the ground and/or with your back against the wall?
This guy is showing you the external mechanics. Very cool but there are levels to it. I suggest that you check out Nima King to get introduced to the internal force that powers it all. That will really blow your mind. He's in some of the Martial Man episodes and has a school in Hong Kong.
@@Bonsai-Sagecorrect there are different levels, can’t show them all in 1 video though, there is more to come!
Milos hasn't changed at all. His teaching style is the same as when I started WT.
Thank you! Much appreciated.
@@MYVLMA 🤗 kein Problem. Das ist eben deine Art.
Ok, I like this Guy! Any trainer willing to take a smack to the face to teach is a trainer I'll learn from. "Go ahead Bro hit me, I'm not worried about getting hurt I'm worried about making you good". Top notch!
@@jackmuaddib3745 thank you, come on over to train!, let’s go!
Finally a correct Bong Sau. Somewhere in the past 40 yrs the tradition has been lost. Because it was always said, “Bong Sau is seen in Transition.” You don’t throw it up as a *Block* but rather it is a transitional movement that is created by situational awareness. This video is a gem among all of RUclips.
Also, lol this is probably the cleanest, neatest Kungfu school I’ve ever seen
@@EliteBlackSash thank you very much for your comment, much appreciated!
@@MYVLMA I do not disagree, but for example Hawkins Cheung teaches active bong sau too, but it is to literally "lift" (unbalance opponents) through their fook sau in chia sao for example...
Both Bongs are correct, and the way I described it still not a block, but you can generate spiral force with your bong, if you have contact already, you can turn the person, unbalance them, or just jam their movement
Sifu Milos is an extraordinary teacher!
It's teaching the consept of sticky hands very good!
I did 3 years Wing Chun ( Gary lam lineage) with very good teachers in Greece.
Most People doesn't know, that Wing Chun is not only a Martial Art, but it's like BODY SCIENCE!
Thank you for your efforts, for all traditional Martial Arts!
I wish you health and prosperity! 🙏
Thank you very much!
Thank you very much!
I teach Martial Arts for over 10 years by now. I have watched thousands of Vids on MA. This is by far the most understandable, most applicable video I have ever seen. Thanks a lot!
@@FlorisGerber Much appreciated!
💯💯💯
Finally! A good wing tsun practitioner on youtube. Represent!
@@taoofwater1 thank you much appreciated!
It is so good to see real Leung Ting Wing Tsun....its very seldom on RUclips
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true!
Dude, yes. I've watched every one of this series at least 15 times I've been so starved for insightful WT teaching online.
Ting is a fraud and a charlatan.
Was Leung Ting wing chun founded by Leung Ting, the last student of yip man ?
You know wing chun is an applicable martial art when Ilan is open-minded enough to gain a lot of value from this lesson.
Best explanation of the drill. Thanks for posting.
There are many people who are talented at performing the techniques, but most are not good at communicating.
Thanks, much appreciated!
I love it. It reminds me of Kali Kombat, it's a CQC martial art that fuses panantukan, escrima, and 52 blocks. Reminds me of their trapping, which I see obviously comes from Wing Chun, which makes perfect sense.
Sifu Miloš this is an amazing video! Your explanation and demonstration / live lesson with Coach Ian. My Mind is blown away. I spent 4 months learned WC at another school and am still confused and don't know how any of the drills work or how to use them in action but your video did what 4 months of me going to another school couldnt do. Your explanation of Chi sau, the Sunken elbow conept and especially how to use Bong Sau is used and the when to use it! Detailed yet so Concise Sifu! This explanation of Chi sau is the best I've ever seen online and connects to almost all ranges of fighting. This reminds me a bit of the old Boxers and Puglist's Thank you again Sifu Miloš and Coach Ian.
Thank you very much! You are always welcome to come and visit anytime
Thank you very much! You are always welcome to come and visit anytime
Greet what arrives, follow what departs, rush upon loss of contact.
Beautiful. I've never heard this
Thx a lot Si-Fu , this is just the beginning Florida:)
You got that right!
You are an incredible teacher
@@shilmanmartin thank you!
beautiful!!! i could watch you guys all day!
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Best video on martial arts I have ever seen
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just fantastic as wc should be ! thanks @ both of you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dig it ! love Milos's practicality & flexibility how he adapts the Wing Chun style to meet the modern & of course the fella who is always searching & perfecting !!
Thanks for your comment.
I did the reverse same thing and learned a lot about grappling, but I used to teach Wing Chun and this is the kind of exercise I would immediately start with martial artists from other styles - that way, they come back as they can see the point of your art, and you can learn from them. A very good video.
SO right!!! We do something similar in Kyo-Jitsu Ryu. The opponent is the train. We are the track. The track DOES nothing except be a track. Yet, the train turns. The faster and more powerful the train, the faster it turns.
Without taking any merit; 2:03 This worked particularly well because of your bjj background where you learnt how to relax and follow flow in the first place. Amazingly done, thanks for sharing 👍🙏
This an excellent demonstration of openness between two high level martial artists. You could see the lightbulb moments come on. Very enjoyable to watch and love your teaching style 🙏
@@bogwoppit792 Thank you!
I would like to see more sparring footage, as I am fascinated and curious as to how these techniques would look in sparring. As well as how they would look in live grappling situations.
Sean Strickland's long guard is kind of like Wing Chun. And some Wing Chun people forget to retract their hands once they are too far . Strickland retracts both his hands into modified philly shell once he is too far, which is the correct thing to do.
Awesome content!
Cool, das ganze Konzept wusste ich schon mal, hab's aber wieder vergessen...😢. Vielen Dank für den Beitrag
That was awesome! And very enlightening 🙏🏾
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great instruction! Very informative. Just the way Wing Chun needs to be taught.
@@RobertMiller-sh7gb 🙏🏼
Wow, thanks for the Video, man! What a great teacher!
By the way: Now have a look at okinawan Karate again. Because this is the distance, most of the "katas" are really meant for. Example 13:51: Your reaction leads to a position EXACTLY teached this way by Gojus Kata "Shisochin". Give it a quick research, you will see by yourself easyly.
In Okinawa this type of (chisao-like) exercises are called "Kakie". Without knowing (and practicing) this type of contact and close distance, Karate and its Katas would be senseless indeed.
Also superinteresting to see you adapt quickly to your technics. Thanks for this demonstration!
Thank you!
@@MYVLMA Uhhhh sorry, its your Chanel! Didnt notice it 😅 The note about okinawan karate was more made for your buddy in the video. Maybe its interesting anyway.
Fantastic content! You two are gold. Thanks
Phenomenal presentation of the core principles.
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I love this guy's definitely keep this up totally awesome 💯% 😎
Excellent! Principles and structure first, techniques second.
very good teacher sifu
Many many thanks
Real training
Odlični ste momci👏💪
Greetings from Serbia ❤
Hvala ti mnogo🙏🏻❤️‼️
Hvala ti mnogo🙏❤💪
I am taken back to my Wing Chun training days here, and it feels great. Anyone who thinks Wing Chun isn't actually effective in a fight hasn't trained it properly. Great video.
@@TheKrodin thank you, unfortunately many people are just ignorant and the lack of good instructors teaching the correct technique and mindset doesn’t help our art. Thanks for your comment and have a a blessed day.
Great lesson
Thank you for this video! I learned so much!! Looking forward to when I can make it down there to train!!
thank you, you’re welcome anytime!
This is gold ❤❤❤
That’s nice to see a sifu that you can work with. Back in the days if you tried to do something they would have beat your crap out of you. Respect.
@@francocremasco6720 thank you for your kind words. We appreciate our students and it would be a disservice to them if they didn’t get to try out and feel what we teach them. Thanks for your support and have a blessed day.
Fantastic stuff!
@@Dan53196 Thank you!
good stuff! thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
So awesome! This is explained so well, such great content. Thanks so much to both of you!
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GREAT VIDEO
Great stuff - love it
Sehr gut. Das sind Sachen, die bringen mich in meinem WingTsun sehr viel weiter. Danke dafür. 👍🏻
Super!
Thank you! Cheers!
This is a great video!
Great details love it. 👍
You guys are awesome. A true treasure.
thank you
Awesome video!! 💯
Awesome Content, keep it up. Tons of value
@@stephannaviavalencia8617 thank you
that was really good
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Great
You can see that Wing Chun is a standup grappling system and can easily set up a variety of throws. You will also note that Wing Chun is a vicious Elbow system.
You get it…👍🏼
6:39 saam teem using the in hand as a hit. He was impressed. That was awesome. Teacher showed him a fook sao control Fox paw. Now he knows that once he touches a hand, to go in with it, put em on the defense. That was cool. I watch his show too.” 💯🙏😎
Really good stuff guys.
Thanks much
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Great video i learned the chi na grappling in my wing chun years ago its part of wing chun just like strikes throws etc its the human body it's nice to see other sifu teach this😊
Thanks for sharing
Exactly. My wing chun sifu teaches excellent take down defense.
It’s great for grappling, it’s also great for old fashioned waltzing, or anything when you are touching someone.
This is what WT'lers have been missing: an openness to other martial artists and the skill to back it up. There is a commenter below who said he would like to see this used under sparring conditions. I'll second that - but I know how it usually ends.
@@thewingtsunsparringchannel6281 thank you for your comment, much appreciated! Have a blessed day.
Great work explaining these interesting concepts 😊
I'm interested in how on a strategic and technique level you apply these concepts in a context with head butts, is it a consideration in your training? What is your approach?
Good job on the video!
@@SaikouKarate Thanks for the question, will shoot a video on that today, stay tuned!
@@MYVLMA Cool, will keep my eyes out!
Tae Kwon Doe works good in fights against bullies
I am extremly skeptical of Wing Chun, and I have to say this is probably one of if no the best demonstrations of why Wing Chun may have some value.
I really wish people that try to trash talk about "teh street" would take note of this. Instead of trying to make claims about being better in a no rules environment, actually show the Chun working with resistance. This is a much better demonstration that just making claims about street fighting as an excuse.
@@volatileepiphanies5547 WC has a bad rep because 99% of the Instructors are incompetent and don’t commit to its true values. Thanks for your comment and subscribe for more content coming soon!
@@MYVLMA if you meet masters like Milos you just feel helpless. I practiced WT 30 years ago with Sifu Schembri in Switzerland and had that experience weekly
Most Kung fu master actually only train kung fu as hobby, if you match it with who train professionally, they can destroy it😅 it is hard to find really good master, even BJJ that very young already move in direction of kung fu😂
@@MYVLMA I agree with this. Mine 1st WC club was good and instructor was good at explaining practical application, not only blindly training techniques and we alos done a lot of sparing, but when I moved to larger city for my studies at university I only found one WC club that was in other 99%, so I trained by myself and with friend I got at university that was black belt in shotokan karate, and later found Judo club that had good instructor and trained that also (I visited ~10 MA clubs and only 1 had good instructor).
P.S. Pozdrav iz Srbije.
@@warlocksm1 Hvala i ljep pozdrav u Srbiju
Is this Wing Tsunami ha...I went to an Emin Boztee seminar long ago around 2000, is this same Tsun lineage. I am only to use a Straight Blast in MMA in 2000, and again in 2001 in Daidojuku
Thank you!
Ip Man!
I would like to see more videos with this Ving Tsun teacher because he is excellent. I noticed IIan constantly tried to show this teacher what he does with his grappling or striking as the Sifu is trying to teach. There is a time and place for that but not when you are getting a lesson from another teacher. I realize this current generation did not learn that or possibly could not understand that. Even with that Sifu Milos continued to make the lesson/demo work for youtube. But a lot of Sifu's would say something like are you here to learn or are you here to teach me what you do? I am sure IIan is a very nice guy and he does not realize its disrespectful to constantly show what you do when your in an actual lesson but empty your cup man with all respect.🙏
I understand where you're coming from entirely, however, part of this video was to help Ilan understand how to close the mid gap range WT style. Anyways, it greatly showed how well WT can compliment other styles such as BJJ in this case. I myself think it was actually rather impressive to see Ilan follow through with his own attacks or takedowns after such a brief introduction to chi sau-- you can tell he is a very skilled martial artist in his own right and I don't think he was there for just a straight and pure WT lesson or else I'm sure he would have emptied his cup and taken in the lesson itself more.
@@KryptcTV That´s right. Ilan is a very exceptional guy!
Thank you very much for your comment! Yes, you are right in general, and I have approached a lot of martial artists as you described. But Ilan is very different and exceptional! That´s why I like him so much and I am looking forward to do more stuff with him. Just a little bit of background info. We talked about all those things and I encouraged him to do what ever he wants or needs to do, to see and experience if it works for or on him. So, everything what we do is agreed between us. Ilan is a true fighter and martial artist who would never cross lines!
I share the same opinion like you do, about respecting a teacher and his work and so does Ilan.
I like that people like you address awareness about traditional values.
Sifu is so confident and un- insecure that he doesn't even care but I see what you're saying plus if elan keeps it up that problem won't exist in the future
Could not disagree more. Ilan displayed zero disrespect, he was simply showing applications. Jesus dude.
Isn't this quite true?
I think it's close to the fusion of wrestling and punching of UFC champion DC. I was only disappointed with this kind of thing, but this might be good.
來留去送，甩手直衝
it is funny how vt became so much more effective compared to classic wc.
It is classical WC done correctly. All this is done during chi sau, and applicable in combat.
@@MustAfaalik search for phillip bayer vt.
Same thing just different name
@@jacobharris954 if it was the same , wc wouldn't suck.
@@lovelife1867 Only because you were not taught when & how to apply WC techniques for different range; expecting fights in the old ways and classifying as Traditional. Sad!
Connection.
Do I know both guys?
@@DanTheWolfman 🤷🏻♂️
Oh snap Dan in the wild not on his channel! Like both of your stuff guys appreciate your work.
@@DanTheWolfman Let’s do a colab.
@@MYVLMA Where are you...... I was trained 3 months long ago in 2000 by an Italian Math teacher Wing Tsun teacher trying to remember who he was
@@DanTheWolfman We have a few schools in Berlin and now this is our first in S Florida, USA.
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This is the wc that I like, I can see a female winning a fight like this... no strength
@@rolandmalone5431 exactly and many don’t know it was actually created by a woman!
@MYVLMA exactly Sifu, I'd say WC is a "clinch striking concept" fighting and in many aspects it's not taught as such and can cause confusion
Not strength, but internal pressure (full body ) must have.
This is partly chasing hands which can to lead to some very bad wing chun
Bro your meant to understand close range fighting your a BJJ black belt… who gave you your black belt
Come and try yourself.
wtf man your boxing form looks good why’d you pick to Focus on wc instead of that.
Okay so prove this works jn an mma match lol
You could cut the bromance with a knife.
Kiss already so we can focus on the technique
Distorted arms.
I mean…this is beautiful but not functional. There have been zero serious kung fu champions in MMA. IF you train this and get into a street fight with a high school wrestler…they’re gonna beat yo arse! This would work with a drunken bar idiot…maybe. If you’re only going to train 1 martial art it better be jiu jitsu. It’s the only 1 that offers replicable results regardless of Body type or power. If you can train two or 3….Jits, wrestling, muythai, and maybe a little boxing. Then your Batman. Leave the kung fu for the movies. It’s where it belongs….along with Aikido.
I understand where you coming from, but there is a saying in my country Serbia "Samo dodji i vidi" - Just come and find out.
God bless you
@@MYVLMA we’ve already found out. It’s called the UFC. the list I gave you above….is the discovered list. Kung fu ain’t on it.
I take your point, but bear in mind that MMA is a sport, and WC is only designed to hurt people. You can't use an eye gouge or a throat strike in MMA, both of which are standard parts of WC. The principle problem I have with using JJ in a street-fight is that if you have more than one adversary, or are on the ground, and the person you are fighting has friend, you have a problem.
@@KBJ58You have a problem if you’re outnumbered and alone regardless. Good idea to run not fight in those scenarios. 2 slightly competent guys are gonna beat yo whatever trained arse. In any case…if you are going to train 1 martial art you are far better with grappling. If you want to really learn how to defend yourself a competent MMA program which mostly incorporates Wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, and Muy Thai…in which I have trained all 3. Lastly I would say …I grew up in chicago in riot gang style fighting. I was actually charged with Mob Action as a kid which is 5 or more people fighting. That’s how bad the gang violence is out there…there’s a law to combat it. I was a good wrestler (placed in state) and all my friends were Jiu Jitsu practicioners under Bob Schermer. We never had a problem. Like we smoked everyone. I’ve been jumped by gangs of bloods, crypts, 4 corner hustlers, mobbed up cats, etc. Even my high school wrestling was no match for grown men. I’ve had to run plenty of times when by myself but I’ve tuned up several people at once with grappling and a group of us was always dominating. If you tried to use some nonsense like wing chun in the streets of chicago you would be talking funny at this point. It’s not functional. Fighting is messy and chaotic not beautiful. You must have a foundation that works on world class guys. We already know the functional list and kung fu ain’t on it. As I told the master here…It’s style points or sneak attacks at best. Like a reversal in football…it never works but if you catch someone off guard…touchdown! I could see busting out some wing chun or Aikido crazy technique to surprise someone…and that may work once and a while but it’s not repeatable and hence not very functional. if you build a self defense foundation on something like Aikido or Kung Fu you’re building a house of cards that a good high school wrestler could blow over. Listen…I’ve blown them over personally. I smashed a kung fu cat in Boston…tried to claw my eyes out with that stupid technique. I double legged him and head butted him and SCENE that was it.
This is not controversial. The experiment has been done. I just hate to see this nonsense perpetuated. It’s gonna get you or others you think you can protect hurt.
@@MJLambert Simple! To reach a high level of WC takes a lifetime, and those in MMA would rather train in purely physical stuff and disabled by the time they reach 5o's. Same reason why JKD was started. BTW JKD with its broken rhythm has been successfully applied by former & current UFC champions. Furthermore, WC is more effective in combat where all of the above techniques come into play in a given short space of time.