Is Donna Adelson the Next Domino to Fall in the Dan Markel Murder Case

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
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    #STSNation,
    Welcome to another episode of Surviving The Survivor, the podcast that brings you the #BestGuests in all of True Crime…
    Charlie Adelson, the wealthy south Florida periodontist who managed to elude justice for 9+ years in the 2014 killing of Florida State law professor Dan Markel, was convicted Monday on all counts in his murder.
    Charlie’s sentencing is set for December 12th where he’s expected to be sent to state prison for the rest of his natural life.
    Former inmates who served hard time tell us what Charlie should expect in the Big House.
    #BestGuests:
    Famed Tallahasse Defense Attorney R. Timothy Jansen is a partner in the firm Jansen & Davis…he has handled complex Civil, Administrative and Criminal Litigation s, first as Chief Trial Counsel for the Secretary of State of Florida, Tallahassee, handling both complex Civil and Criminal matters.
    He also spent 5 years as a federal prosecutor. No one knows the Tallahassee legal community better than Tim.
    Mark Geragos is arguably America’s best known criminal defense attorney
    His clients have included Scott Peterson, Michael Jackson, Gary Condit, Colin Kaepernick, Chris Brown, Winona Ryder and most recently former UFC heavyweight champ Cain Velasquez
    Mark is Partner in the law firm Geragos & Geragos - and has the best mustache game in the business
    Julia Jenae is a legal correspondent for Court TV where she covers some of the most riveting trials in the nation.
    Julia is a three-time EMMY award recipient for investigative reports. The stories she enjoys the most are those where journalism and the law intersect because her background is in both.
    James Hill is Senior Producer at ABC News who helped put together this Friday night’s 20/20 on Dan Markel’s murder.
    He brings unique insight into this high profile murder and all the players involved.
    Dr. Roger Rhoades is a licensed therapist in private practice in Greenville, South Carolina specializing in dysfunctional relationships.
    He’s worked with inmates inside prisons.
    #JusticeForDanMarkel #TrueCrime #FSU #TrueCrimeCommunity #Podcast #Podcasting #Florida #CharlieAdelson #WendiAdelson #TrueCrime #DonnaAdelson #CharlieAdelsonTrial

Комментарии • 773

  • @frisbeeshawn5356
    @frisbeeshawn5356 11 месяцев назад +139

    Imagine the stress Donna and Wendi and her father are having now. They brought it all on themselves they had no right to orchestrate taking Dan Markels life .. .

    • @josimpson7999
      @josimpson7999 11 месяцев назад +17

      All the stress they are through is obviously down to their own wicked and nefarious actions - and I for one couldn’t give two hoots!

    • @lifepathnumbernine6607
      @lifepathnumbernine6607 11 месяцев назад +15

      Prison of the mind is a living hell. Not sure how much they're being effected bc they think they are basically above the law especially wendi

    • @LibertyStation92106
      @LibertyStation92106 11 месяцев назад +11

      Psychopaths

    • @HarrietFox-p8h
      @HarrietFox-p8h 11 месяцев назад

      It is a travesty if the prosecutions stop here. If Wendy find another sucker his life will be in danger.

    • @tinamcleod3928
      @tinamcleod3928 11 месяцев назад +6

      100%/… zero sympathy for this entitled evilness.

  • @JustTerri-fj5hl
    @JustTerri-fj5hl 11 месяцев назад +83

    Wendy, changing the kids name from their dead father, is pure evil

  • @neddy1513
    @neddy1513 11 месяцев назад +240

    Donna was the engineer driving the train and the whole Adelson family’s was on board.

    • @EigthFeathersofHope
      @EigthFeathersofHope 11 месяцев назад +30

      Donna Adelson's hatred and entitlement set everything in motion.

    • @izzo2998
      @izzo2998 11 месяцев назад +29

      That's the truth. Donna needs to ROT in prison. @@DAdelson

    • @izzo2998
      @izzo2998 11 месяцев назад

      Yep. This is all on Donna. @@EigthFeathersofHope

    • @wisewillow5731
      @wisewillow5731 11 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@DAdelsonthat's true, Robert isn't riding that train.

    • @kristineelizabeth1277
      @kristineelizabeth1277 11 месяцев назад +14

      ​@@DAdelson😂😂😂

  • @mjrule888
    @mjrule888 11 месяцев назад +248

    Since Charlie has been convicted, the charge against Wendi is stronger than ever. It's impossible that Charlie would gave the order to kill his nephews' father without Wendi's approval. Indict Wendi and Donna now.

    • @teresarobertson2063
      @teresarobertson2063 11 месяцев назад +33

      😊The father too. It was a family affair!

    • @kristineelizabeth1277
      @kristineelizabeth1277 11 месяцев назад +12

      💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

    • @trailrunner925
      @trailrunner925 11 месяцев назад +21

      That's speculation.... not evidence that can be presented in court. The problem is there are no texts, no phone calls that include Wendi, or even mention contacting Wendi.

    • @michaelcalland801
      @michaelcalland801 11 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately There’s no evidence against Wendy ? What do they actually have ?
      In fact the wiretaps will be used in her defense. When the bump happens Donna says “ This involves the 2 of us”. She never mentions Wendy nor does Charlie call her. Everything on Wendy is circumstantial. They couldn't even get a wiretap on her never mind an indictment..

    • @ciao2315
      @ciao2315 11 месяцев назад +37

      She’s the only one who knew his schedule

  • @ladyhappy1974
    @ladyhappy1974 11 месяцев назад +122

    Hi all.
    I hope Donna is arrested soon and convicted. She obviously has murder in her heart and should not be around those young boys.

    • @marygoff3332
      @marygoff3332 11 месяцев назад +11

      Agreed. Yet she thinks she's the best grandma ever.

    • @TheLectureRoom
      @TheLectureRoom 11 месяцев назад +9

      Wendi manipulated Donna - then Donna manipulated Charlie …end of story

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@TheLectureRoom
      Timeline a tad different - Donna went ballistic first when Dan tried to prevent her from seeing her grandsons.

    • @tianna1116
      @tianna1116 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@mortalclown3812and the actions of the Adelsons proves how right Dan was to try to keep his boys away from Donna. Look at what she is capable of. Look at the two people she did raise. She’s a lunatic, a very dangerous person, especially for those close to her. She damages everyone she touches

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@tianna1116Imaging She lives long enough until the grandchildren dating and get married

  • @daveymcteer6804
    @daveymcteer6804 11 месяцев назад +19

    Great point. The contrast between the caliber of each of the families is astounding. Different ends of many different spectrums. Values, faith,depth, work ethic, integrity, openness, aggressiveness

    • @chipkerth1335
      @chipkerth1335 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes. Donna was a “show horse”. All about appearances but she was a cruel and heartless woman while Dan’s family is understated and modest!

    • @pilarq7886
      @pilarq7886 11 месяцев назад

      Slime -Adelsons except older brother Rob

  • @dinameitner60
    @dinameitner60 11 месяцев назад +49

    Your guest nailed it. How Many times did Charles get away with stuff before he got caught?

    • @lululiga333
      @lululiga333 11 месяцев назад +13

      Yes if you listen back to tapes that weren’t used in the trial. He talks about selling steroids and talks to his mother about how to get out of speeding tickets by lying and much more besides. He thought he was a law unto himself and his mother encouraged his criminality. Talk about a really sick family.

    • @SS11660
      @SS11660 11 месяцев назад +4

      @lululiga333 and stories about how he hot into dental school, etc.
      I don't believe the family they made that much money with a one man dental office.
      And charley spent way more than he made legally.

    • @katrinat.3032
      @katrinat.3032 11 месяцев назад

      Sex with under age women ( technically outside of the US so not a crime, smoking pot as a licensed dentist, selling steroids, tax fraud for saying Katie worked there so she could get health insurance, and tax fraud for all that cash business. Oh speeding and murder

    • @katrinat.3032
      @katrinat.3032 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@SS11660they did cosmetic dentistry, veneers, implants it’s like plastic surgery for your mouth

  • @jacquelynbolden2268
    @jacquelynbolden2268 11 месяцев назад +36

    Donna lost her moral compass a long time ago. It's shameful that she can influence the Markle boys.

    • @marshapieroni6677
      @marshapieroni6677 11 месяцев назад +6

      I keep remembering what she told her own son when the git didn't happen the first time. " I know you will come through for me"

    • @chipkerth1335
      @chipkerth1335 11 месяцев назад +3

      Yes. Ryan Fitzpatrick stated on AALegalfocus last night that he had played chess with the boys when they were young and how bright they were. Why not share with Ruth? Donna wanted it all and look where she is now!!

    • @kdlee3316
      @kdlee3316 11 месяцев назад +4

      She didn’t lose it. She never had one

    • @LynnC-r5c
      @LynnC-r5c 11 месяцев назад +1

      It is not only shameful it is evil. What a horrible thing to do to the Markle family and the memory of these boys father

    • @marshapieroni6677
      @marshapieroni6677 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@CarmieGirl9902 pretty sure that statement was in a text after the first trip to tally didn't get the results she wanted

  • @FactsPlus2022
    @FactsPlus2022 11 месяцев назад +38

    Robert Adelson made a great judgement call distancing himself from his family.

    • @katrinat.3032
      @katrinat.3032 11 месяцев назад +6

      Amazing! His childhood must have been horrible

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 11 месяцев назад +9

      Harvey lost his oldest son and grandchildren and he still hasn't put his foot down. He let Donna ruined the other 2 children too. Alderson legacy.

    • @semajd5995
      @semajd5995 11 месяцев назад

      Is there any video of the brother? I can’t find anything on him

    • @Claudia-lq3ns
      @Claudia-lq3ns 11 месяцев назад +2

      Robert ended up estranged years ago because of his choice in a partner. He's a real man and chose to build a life on his terms instead of doing what his Mommy wants him to do: like Charlie and Wendi.

  • @godzillamanstreb524
    @godzillamanstreb524 11 месяцев назад +48

    Dr Roger♥️🤍🩵😂🎯…. I agree, the psychological harm they’ve put on Dan’s boys is heartbreaking…..esp considering the beautiful Markel family

    • @momentofimpact6227
      @momentofimpact6227 11 месяцев назад +10

      All 10 kids involved with this crime

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 11 месяцев назад +8

      yes and now they know that uncle Charlie is their father's killer. And and!!!! they don't have their Dad, they don't have their dad's family, they don't have uncle Charlie, soon they won't have grandma D and perhaps, if successfully done by prosecutors those boys would not have their mother. Actually wait wait - think is best they don't have any of those Adelson's and maybe eventually they can change their last name back to Markel. Geesh those boys - poor kids

    • @godzillamanstreb524
      @godzillamanstreb524 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@preciousgem6506 agree 💯 %

  • @swyer631
    @swyer631 11 месяцев назад +8

    For all us novice trial junkies - The elephant in the room is this murder doesn’t happen without Donna and and Wendi . Also this is the best coverage out there .

  • @mrscreoledavis205
    @mrscreoledavis205 11 месяцев назад +33

    This crime was so senseless and evil. These people hurt generations of families. They had enough money to make visitation possible in the state of Florida. It would have been cheaper to rent or purchase a house in Tallahassee to visit the kids🤦🏽‍♀️😭

    • @cocosurgerow
      @cocosurgerow 11 месяцев назад +4

      It’s only a $220 round trip air ticket.

  • @Asidebar
    @Asidebar 11 месяцев назад +28

    I hope the jurors contact the State and tell them what they thought was the best points on evidence to convict Charlie and what they thought about Wendi's testimony.

    • @Strlrd1023
      @Strlrd1023 11 месяцев назад +2

      They are just 12 random folks off the street. Your opinion is about as valuable as theirs.

  • @timonza
    @timonza 11 месяцев назад +18

    I lost my dad in 2017. It was the worst thing that's happened to me (until I lost my mom this year). This family may think they love those boys but traumatizing them with not just losing their dad, but in such a brutal way, shows that whoever was part of this hit DO NOT CARE AT ALL about Dan and Wendi's son. I hope everyone involved spends the rest of their lives in prison.

    • @jacquelinetimestep5048
      @jacquelinetimestep5048 11 месяцев назад +3

      Sorry for your loss.

    • @loralieisa
      @loralieisa 11 месяцев назад +1

      My condolences to you.

    • @dianahernandez1709
      @dianahernandez1709 11 месяцев назад +1

      I agree. I lost both parents young. And knowing what the Adelsons did, no way do they love those boys

  • @Jaymie4Justice
    @Jaymie4Justice 11 месяцев назад +15

    I’m can’t believe I’m so late to the RUclips crime/trial community here! So happy I found you all ❤ Thank you, Joel, Tim and #bestguests.

    • @katrinat.3032
      @katrinat.3032 11 месяцев назад +3

      Also check out Carl Steinbeck and his brother John. They do great videos also. And these guys are all friends

    • @Jaymie4Justice
      @Jaymie4Justice 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@katrinat.3032 thank you I did find them. I love Carl! ❤️ I haven’t seen John speak as of yet.

  • @markbrown1609
    @markbrown1609 11 месяцев назад +34

    Donna might as well turn herself in today and plead a deal.

    • @godzillamanstreb524
      @godzillamanstreb524 11 месяцев назад +3

      Doubtful

    • @swann433
      @swann433 11 месяцев назад +6

      That's what I would do if I was in her shoes. Katie blew it and didn't do it and she got life. Give up lil princess Wendi and save her own ancient azz...then she can keep the grandkids at least.

    • @JFK1962
      @JFK1962 11 месяцев назад +1

      The day after the verdict if I were Donna I’d be begging for a deal, but I don’t think the state is going to offer one.

    • @WvBeurden2222
      @WvBeurden2222 11 месяцев назад

      I really don't like the idea that Donna raise those Dan boys any further she has a very bad influence on everyone. The Markel family is such a better family to raise them and don't you forget they didn't get to see them and visit them for 6 years, so I hope the sister of Dan would raise them they need family who are young and fit enough to raise these children and I hope Dan's parent live near Shelly so they can visit each other easily@@swann433

    • @lilyelsner4055
      @lilyelsner4055 11 месяцев назад

      Does Donna have a passport?

  • @dianec690
    @dianec690 11 месяцев назад +16

    Yes ! DONNA NEEDS TO BE CHARGED - PLEASE. She is so involved , so guilty.

    • @LynnC-r5c
      @LynnC-r5c 11 месяцев назад

      ABSOLUTELY!!!

    • @therealbe
      @therealbe 11 месяцев назад +1

      Done ✔️

  • @teresas8173
    @teresas8173 11 месяцев назад +30

    You can’t avoid the evidence. I think the jurors like most watching just found the defense theory questionable at best and no real evidence to back it up. The evidence did support the states case and their witnesses backed it up. Katie’s testimony made sense, Jeff LaCasses plausible testimony had a big impact. Then the transcripts and videos. I don’t see how any jury whoever it was comprised of could have found him not guilty. So the quick verdict didn’t surprise me. I think it’s sometimes a cop out for lawyers to blame the jury when they lose.
    His money will protect him in prison.

    • @EigthFeathersofHope
      @EigthFeathersofHope 11 месяцев назад +2

      I agree!

    • @marshapieroni6677
      @marshapieroni6677 11 месяцев назад +1

      After watching so many trials I now realize it hit or miss. Can never tell who is on that jury

  • @brendafedi891
    @brendafedi891 11 месяцев назад +13

    It was Wendi’s spite for her husband that caused all of this. She couldn’t stand the thought of him winning in court and not allowing her to take the kids to live closer to her family.

    • @hanagloriaedelblum5693
      @hanagloriaedelblum5693 9 месяцев назад

      Yes, and she encouraged her mother to add fuel to the fire of hatred they both fomented. It was their way of family bonding. Chilling.

  • @kellyanneree3252
    @kellyanneree3252 11 месяцев назад +33

    Wendi imo set Danny up that fateful day by agreeing to meet Danny to discuss the oldest child's next school. She claims she "missed" his call earlier that morning and then got no answer when she called him back. Then she went on with her errands that included driving down Trescott. Was she confirming she wouldn't have to meet him that day?? She never attempted another call to him that day even though the time was ticking on the oldest child starting at the new school. Wendi is the only one who knew Danny's schedule that fateful day and she shared that with Charlie/Donna who shared it with Katie, who shared it with Sigfrado. Danny gave his whole schedule to Wendi for that fateful day because he thought he was truly going to meet up with Wendi. He was set up by her!

    • @margaretlee-reed814
      @margaretlee-reed814 11 месяцев назад +8

      JL's schedule was known by WA for the June and July trips; or so WA thought she knew JL's schedule in July. (Watch the last trial.) *Both* trips by SG/LR revolved around JL's schedules (and presumed departures) as well. LR knew and relayed the murder for hire was urgent ... (but, not much detail beyond that). Thus, debatable were the suspects ("wirking") around JL's or DM's schedule. Difficult to say without 1 of 3 saying or remembering something.
      And, not know how WA communicated to everyone. Through CA? through KM? Or, directly to hitmen?
      Always the chance not all has been revealed that LE may know. Phones, Burner phones, Whatsapp etc.

    • @swann433
      @swann433 11 месяцев назад +6

      I think Donna talked Charlie into doing it and then they both talked to Wendi. She was gonna buy a house in tally but Charlie talked her out of it and then Dan was killed.

    • @kingriger77
      @kingriger77 11 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠@@margaretlee-reed814sorry I know all of the other initials used but who is JL? My mind went blank lol.

    • @abigailh7715
      @abigailh7715 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@kingriger77Jeff Lacosste

    • @tmcurly
      @tmcurly 11 месяцев назад +3

      That’s what I have been saying without Wendi Dan would be alive today!!

  • @doragreen3887
    @doragreen3887 11 месяцев назад +12

    Julia makes such a great point about how wrong the jury consultants were! Love her❤

  • @RealFIRSTONE
    @RealFIRSTONE 11 месяцев назад +3

    @STS Nation I had multiple screens on and you had a full panel doing commentary when the judge asked Charlie to remain seated and clearly said all others must stand. Infact the camera zooms in on Charlie as he attempts to stand and the Bailiff reiterates for him to remain seated.

  • @EigthFeathersofHope
    @EigthFeathersofHope 11 месяцев назад +12

    Appreciate Karl's insights and expertise.

  • @lisal2018
    @lisal2018 11 месяцев назад +14

    I would love if they could get an interview with Robert Adelson. He bailed on his family years ago.

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 11 месяцев назад +5

      Robert moved to New York because he married an indian women, a woman of color I might say, she is very very brown skin. Donna and the family didn't approve of his marriage. As a matter of fact his children are very mixed especially his daughter. She is dark and has some kinky curly hair. Robert didn't care and went with his heart and married the love of his life. They have a boy and a girl. I believe he is an ENT very successful doctor and lives a very good life away from all this drama. However, would love to know what he thinks about his messy family. He's the "good" Adelson. Not a bad apple

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@preciousgem6506 He did an interview on one of the podcast. He told his story.

  • @cadencechrome4783
    @cadencechrome4783 11 месяцев назад +25

    Grinds me when lawyers denegrates a jury. Jurors take the case seriously and whether or not they "like" the defendent they go by the evidence and presentation. Jurors are not stupid.

  • @garymcguire9463
    @garymcguire9463 11 месяцев назад +15

    If Charlie reads the Tealeaves correctly and sees that Wendy is going down anyway, he could quickly try to get his sentence, reduced and pile on!

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Enoughalready20237 lol lol lmao this shat

    • @garymcguire9463
      @garymcguire9463 11 месяцев назад +2

      Oh yes, you are completely correct

  • @Mmee298
    @Mmee298 11 месяцев назад +2

    Wow! What an excellent panel… looking forward to hearing this program!

  • @elindemier
    @elindemier 11 месяцев назад +14

    Tim is correct about the process of Charlie controlling the conspiracy and using Katie. He found someone who was vulnerable and had access to the people he needed.

    • @lululiga333
      @lululiga333 11 месяцев назад

      Katie wasn’t even slightly vulnerable. She saw herself as a cool gang member side babe. She loved money and having connections with crooked people. She also loved being powerful in terms of helping to effect Dans death. Filthy liar and egotistical to the end.

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 11 месяцев назад +1

      Money talks

    • @tessar.6360
      @tessar.6360 11 месяцев назад

      I agree with you 100%. I don't think Charlie ever cared about Katie - he was scheming and planning the entire time to use her for this murder for hire. Donna I believe was the Puppet Master; Charlie was a momma's boy and would do anything for her & I hope she is indicted next followed by Wendi. Wendi had to have known about the murder! The entire family is EVIL!!

    • @louisebotelle9722
      @louisebotelle9722 11 месяцев назад

      Katie was manipulating him, as well.

    • @happy24seven
      @happy24seven 11 месяцев назад

      Agree. There was NO previous extortion, he made that up to cover the money trail once the strange investigation attempt to demon Donna happened and did wind up getting them talking. They weren’t sure at the time so more money got paid out…these criminals in suits.

  • @louesparza8003
    @louesparza8003 6 месяцев назад +2

    The fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick was once a good friend of Charlie does NOT speak well of Ryan, much less having been in business with him. That speaks volumes to me.

  • @liamegan4303
    @liamegan4303 11 месяцев назад +8

    Hi STS. Great Show yesterday, and Charlie's Trial. I could not take my eye's off the T.V. Thanks Julia Janae for being in the Court room, And Tim who is a Legend for breaking things down and the funny and serious comments, I hope the Ribs are getting better. Joel, fantastic Channel bro. I have been Watching the channel for a Long time now, and your lovely Mum ❤, we love you both over here in Ireland. Thanks for your hard work, what's next Joel ??? 😅😅 🇨🇮🇨🇮

  • @GraceEdwards-vk8yy
    @GraceEdwards-vk8yy 11 месяцев назад +48

    I think Wendi should not be free because she's brought all these problems to the family.

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 11 месяцев назад +4

      😂
      Hardly legal grounds.

    • @J-ellO
      @J-ellO 11 месяцев назад

      Agree if the state was willing to give her immunity in the beginning, they must’ve realized that her involvement was not to the extent of first-degree murder. Unfortunately, she didn’t take that because her husband was facing the death penalty, and she would have to testify against him. I don’t think it’s fair. She was only a go-between, and in the beginning she believe they were only gonna rough him up let her go for it and go home to her children.

    • @LH74
      @LH74 11 месяцев назад +2

      That’s not an actual crime bro.

    • @jojodibella4627
      @jojodibella4627 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@J-ellOCharlie is not Wendy’s husband. He’s her brother.

    • @J-ellO
      @J-ellO 11 месяцев назад

      @@jojodibella4627 I was talking about Sigfredo Garcia

  • @zippypin
    @zippypin 11 месяцев назад

    Watching from a beach in Australia. America has the most fascinating trials and Charlie was hard to watch. Thank you Surviving the Survivor.

  • @trailrunner925
    @trailrunner925 11 месяцев назад +7

    Re: Markels vs Adelsons.... I see it as Markels "living" their spiritual beliefs, and Adelsons merely using those beliefs as social currency.

  • @caroljohanson2807
    @caroljohanson2807 11 месяцев назад +32

    Charlie makes me sick
    They all do
    Donna pack your pepto bismal
    Wendi pack your fake personality
    Welcome to karma ❤

    • @margie3389
      @margie3389 11 месяцев назад +4

      I think Pop knew about it too.

    • @abigailh7715
      @abigailh7715 11 месяцев назад +1

      The only thing Wendi cherishes will be banned to take in her jail bag. She will be devastated when she can't pack her contacts and to be seen without her fake blue eyes. No contact lenses in jail Ms Narcissistic Nobody!

    • @margie3389
      @margie3389 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Enoughalready20237 I don’t think narcissists like them would top themselves. They’re too self righteous.

  • @rachelbeck7647
    @rachelbeck7647 11 месяцев назад +3

    Tim’s comment about this being the wrong jury for Charlie when he is accusing minorities is the best interpretation I’ve heard so far. So true.

  • @Ena48145
    @Ena48145 11 месяцев назад

    I've been crying so much since the news broke. Justice always prevails

  • @cats.addict6457
    @cats.addict6457 11 месяцев назад

    Because of the time difference with Singapore I can never see the Live but absolutely enjoy the Replay.
    Best channel on RUclips, thanks a lot

  • @TalLeGal
    @TalLeGal 11 месяцев назад +3

    The motion to speak with jurors has been denied.

    • @Globelle
      @Globelle 11 месяцев назад

      Seriously??? Awesome!!

  • @thelightgetsin
    @thelightgetsin 11 месяцев назад +4

    The motion to interview jurors has been denied.

  • @ylekiote99999
    @ylekiote99999 11 месяцев назад +4

    In her Wheel of Fortune initerview with Pat Sajack back in 1989 Donna told Pat that she was a ´´domestic coordinator.¨ She used this phrase instead of just saying mother. I´ll say she was a domestic coordinator!!!

  • @chantillylee
    @chantillylee 11 месяцев назад +10

    CA had to be sued for child support and to recognize the child

  • @avasolag6288
    @avasolag6288 11 месяцев назад +5

    Dearest Donna Adelson, You gained two grandsons but lost your beloved Charlie for the rest of your existence. Was it really worth it? You and Harvey have lived a tormented life for several years now. If you think you’re suffering now, just wait until you go through thousands and thousands of dollars to protect dear Charlie from the monsters in prison. What’s so ironic is that this was all done for sweet Wendi, who has the cleanest hands of all of you. Wendi protected herself from incriminating phone calls, texts, meetings at restaurants but never protected any of you.
    I know you’re watching Surviving the Survivor because it has the best legal minds covering the trials. Wishing you a wonderful holiday!!! P.S. I wouldn’t go Christmas shopping because you might have a layover in the Leon County Jail!
    Hugs and Smooches

  • @laurenw4401
    @laurenw4401 11 месяцев назад +3

    It was Donna’s signature on all those checks written out to Katie for the hit.

  • @susanpope64
    @susanpope64 11 месяцев назад +1

    highland park right here!!! i grew up and lived less than ten minutes bein the EB racquet ball club!!! great channel u got here! so glad i met u guys!

  • @stephanies6655
    @stephanies6655 11 месяцев назад +16

    I think Mark Geragos should give Georgia a little more credit. The jury convicted Charlie because she did an amazing job at proving his guilt.

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 11 месяцев назад +4

      She s amazing.

    • @Globelle
      @Globelle 11 месяцев назад +1

      I think he is jealous and looking to represent the next Adelson

  • @caseyhannahdog
    @caseyhannahdog 11 месяцев назад +3

    I just have to say that Charlie was not convicted because he was not liked by the jury, he was convicted because of the evidence. Give the jury some credit they saw that his defense was a joke.

  • @Lifegoals4me
    @Lifegoals4me 11 месяцев назад +4

    The comment about wondering if Wendy knew how lucky she is, I also think you could argue that it wasn’t about her being shielded. Instead that how many could get someone to kill for them.

  • @Missyrocks53
    @Missyrocks53 11 месяцев назад +7

    I don't believe that it was because they hated him. The evidence was overwhelming. No rational person would believe that defense. And it's a working lunch. DA's case is overwhelming. Hope they indict her already.
    By the way, I can't believe I would say something to support CA, but in all fairness, you could see when the jury started walking in, he asked, do i stand. I think it was because of the shackles. But I very clearly saw him mouth those words.

    • @anovemberstar
      @anovemberstar 11 месяцев назад +1

      But he stood for the judge in that segment!

    • @dawnb3194
      @dawnb3194 11 месяцев назад +1

      Very well said!

  • @raineydaygirl5970
    @raineydaygirl5970 11 месяцев назад +3

    Yes…watch CA at the moment jury entry was announced. CA looked around as if to ask- “Does that mean me?”
    Judge actually said something like…
    “Everyone else”…when he made eye contact. He was absolutely unsure.
    It was not a deliberate “jab of disrespect”, in that moment, as I saw it.

  • @Sherinthia7
    @Sherinthia7 11 месяцев назад +2

    Hi STS family! I’m attending the after party. 😂Excellent show and BEST Panel once again! Dang Joel your daily guests are amazing! You are too! Carm raised a fabulous young Man. Ok note to yourself. 4 Million and 3 books!! Go for the Gold! You deserve it! Peace, Love, Thanks and Blessings from Texas.

  • @amiosa35
    @amiosa35 11 месяцев назад +3

    Joel’s humor is everything

  • @LindaLlewellyn-yo1gf
    @LindaLlewellyn-yo1gf 10 месяцев назад

    Hey STS 👋 been checking out your show for a couple of days and subscribed today. Really like the guest selection right on for whose in charge of that 👌. Love the thought of Donna Adelson crab walking out county P.D. That made my day yesterday.

  • @asamatteroffact9247
    @asamatteroffact9247 11 месяцев назад +6

    No, the judge told him not to stand!

  • @edtamboni4752
    @edtamboni4752 11 месяцев назад +4

    Agree with previous viewer - I like how real you folks are.

  • @AnaPower-ct3eh
    @AnaPower-ct3eh 11 месяцев назад +3

    Hello from England, I followed up everything and Donna needs to go down, she was the cause. 🇬🇧

  • @patriciaseybold7396
    @patriciaseybold7396 10 месяцев назад +1

    GDM. I missed another live. Juat to say STS and precious KARM are the absolute best of the best. Joel, sending you, the COE anf family so much love, but specially to Karm and Ethel. Love you all to bits

  • @barrettlori9249
    @barrettlori9249 11 месяцев назад +4

    1:14:00 " You don't harm kid's"!!! Amen 🙏 Hence the 200 million dollar WIN against John's Hopkins hospital today.

  • @lisal2018
    @lisal2018 11 месяцев назад +2

    Joel you are the bomb, love your channel. Your humor makes me come back.

  • @paulabrahimi2589
    @paulabrahimi2589 11 месяцев назад +7

    Wendi wanted Dan killed.
    She needs to be charged too.
    And sent to jail!!!

  • @Sami-br8zn
    @Sami-br8zn 11 месяцев назад +6

    So happy to see Carl!

  • @Kat-Rene
    @Kat-Rene 11 месяцев назад +4

    I’m happy this trial is online. Someday Dan’s sons will want to know the truth for themselves.
    I’m sure the family is telling them not to go online looking for information because it’s all lies.

  • @lindamcgough3645
    @lindamcgough3645 10 месяцев назад +1

    OMG so funny to listen to this AFTER Donna got arrested boarding a plane!😂😂😂

  • @Globelle
    @Globelle 11 месяцев назад

    Mt Pleasant (Charleston SC) here! Justice for Dan Markel and his family!!!

  • @GA-fz2wt
    @GA-fz2wt 11 месяцев назад +3

    Charlie said it on the stand, during cross he said his life was at risk for testifying and "Will be WHEN I get out!
    He really believed he was going home!

    • @vickibelliotti277
      @vickibelliotti277 11 месяцев назад +1

      I caught that also. He said when I get out 😮

    • @Catherine-cj8gp
      @Catherine-cj8gp 11 месяцев назад +4

      I remember that 🤔😵‍💫😵‍💫… I wonder if he bought that juror guy but didn’t know he was not going to be part of the deliberations….🤔 cuss the judge is the one who picks the alternate ones!

    • @GA-fz2wt
      @GA-fz2wt 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@Catherine-cj8gp Ha how good would that be if he has,I bet he paid him off with stapled money for nothing! 😂

  • @arleenfrancesgains5615
    @arleenfrancesgains5615 11 месяцев назад +6

    Now the Adelson family is losing their fortune, Charlies child has lost his father, they will be relocated to Tallahassee one my one, and Donna will not be able to be a grandma to those kids, finally Wendy will not be their mother once she is convicted. A path of destruction. so sad

  • @jeanettecoleman-mz7ie
    @jeanettecoleman-mz7ie 11 месяцев назад +8

    D adelson as sincere as a rattle snake.

  • @LazloToth-3rd
    @LazloToth-3rd 11 месяцев назад +4

    The judge told CA not to stand. See Sanders v NY. If the jury saw him shackled, it could be prejudicial during polling of the jury

  • @bojikid7134
    @bojikid7134 11 месяцев назад +2

    Judge said “you stay seated”

  • @alschmidt8963
    @alschmidt8963 11 месяцев назад +2

    I like the host comment that Donna is rowing faster to Cuba when she hears that.

  • @amandasager3731
    @amandasager3731 11 месяцев назад

    Great panel. Thank you so much

  • @seangentilechildsupport8858
    @seangentilechildsupport8858 11 месяцев назад

    “Tell him I said that..” You’re funny. Great show.👍💁

  • @TheLucky8Percent
    @TheLucky8Percent 11 месяцев назад

    As a woman born in Atlanta, I am loving Dr. Roger’s accent!!

  • @SandraJohnson-k3l
    @SandraJohnson-k3l 11 месяцев назад +3

    Yes the judge told Charlie not to stand. He said everyone except the defendant stands

  • @BOSSYtexasCHICK
    @BOSSYtexasCHICK 11 месяцев назад +3

    i thought when Charlie said, "Wendi doesn't know how lucky she is" it was in reference to "having a guy like Dave be interested in her because she's 30+ and has 2 kids" - Not sure if that was the point he said it, i know he repeated it a few times during that wiretap (of course he did) BTC

  • @hughhaefner3317
    @hughhaefner3317 11 месяцев назад +4

    I'm all for the fact that jurors are allowed to ask questions like they were in Arizona with regards to the Jodi Arias case

    • @slim7435
      @slim7435 11 месяцев назад

      The jury sure had alot of questions for Jodi Arias and I think everyone listening to the questions knew that that jury did not believe that ridiculous story that Jodi told!!!!

  • @JacquieRyan-n4r
    @JacquieRyan-n4r 11 месяцев назад +2

    It was easy to miss but the judge told him to stay seated. The judge said "everyone else stand" when the jury came in. So he was told to remain seated. Which I've not seen before.

  • @izzo2998
    @izzo2998 11 месяцев назад +11

    Wait. Did I just hear someone speculate that Donna may get a misdemeanor charge? That would be a massive miscarriage of justice.

    • @swann433
      @swann433 11 месяцев назад +4

      If she pleads out and gives Wendi up....

    • @generousbitcoinbillionaire
      @generousbitcoinbillionaire 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@swann433wendi is giving all of them up

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 11 месяцев назад +2

      that will not happen

    • @izzo2998
      @izzo2998 11 месяцев назад

      Hopefully. I really want Donna to rot in prison BAD. @@Asidebar

    • @FactsPlus2022
      @FactsPlus2022 11 месяцев назад

      Must be a mistake.

  • @Oliver-le1us
    @Oliver-le1us 11 месяцев назад +4

    When did jury came in with the verdict? Charlie did look over at the bailiff when they said stand I think he asked him should I stand, and I think they told him not to? Someone told him he didn’t have to stand.

    • @m_christine1070
      @m_christine1070 11 месяцев назад

      He was shackled,the judge told him not to stand

  • @aimeefriedman822
    @aimeefriedman822 11 месяцев назад +2

    I think what sunk Charlie was not his defense, but the Adelson's view on the people of Tallahassee, as if their lives didn't mean as much as lives in Miami.

  • @MarietaTruter
    @MarietaTruter 11 месяцев назад

    Excellent program! 🎉

  • @vincedidiana5781
    @vincedidiana5781 11 месяцев назад +1

    This has probably been asked, but has Mr. Jansen ever said if he would’ve represented Mr. Adelson if asked? Keep up the great work, Joel.

  • @mauiswift6391
    @mauiswift6391 11 месяцев назад +9

    Great show and guests. Love your humour, you always have me cracking up!

  • @maureencaissy6075
    @maureencaissy6075 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Joel. Great guests and great conversation. Charlie is going to deal for sure.

  • @brendalord266
    @brendalord266 11 месяцев назад

    Had to catch the re-watch today! Love STS!

  • @jenniferjanssen9876
    @jenniferjanssen9876 11 месяцев назад

    Tuesdays with Mory is incredible

  • @chuckmiller2951
    @chuckmiller2951 11 месяцев назад +1

    You may know this already: I just checked the 2nd Circuit Judicial Calendar. The Grand Jury meets all day on Wednesday, November 15. Indictments could come down.

  • @brianfriedman2348
    @brianfriedman2348 11 месяцев назад +2

    Why in the world would they leave a paper trail by paying for silence by check?

  • @rosiealaniz3205
    @rosiealaniz3205 11 месяцев назад +11

    Julia Janaé! The star of today’s show! Love your reporting!

    • @jacquelynbolden2268
      @jacquelynbolden2268 11 месяцев назад +2

      Julia is a Rock Star !❤

    • @tmcurly
      @tmcurly 11 месяцев назад +1

      She actually knows the most because she was in court sitting on the front rows ! 😬👊🏽

    • @tmcurly
      @tmcurly 11 месяцев назад

      Mark Gregos rambling about I don’t know 🤷🏽‍♀️ what 😹!!

  • @handle1988
    @handle1988 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love the jokes between you folks. And as always, good to see Roger Rhoades photo, too.

  • @Lavender-blue80
    @Lavender-blue80 11 месяцев назад +7

    It might take years but when Dan's boys understand the level of parental alienation the
    Adleson family practised, it's going to return to bite them in a big way.

    • @SS11660
      @SS11660 11 месяцев назад +6

      I just hope the boys are not too damaged already by this family.

    • @LoomingShark
      @LoomingShark 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@SS11660I agree… with the depth of dysfunction in this family, it may be too late.

    • @SS11660
      @SS11660 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@LoomingShark seems like it would be like de programming people held captuve for a long time
      This family is all they've known.

    • @TalLeGal
      @TalLeGal 11 месяцев назад +1

      Regarding the plan being initiated at the private dinner: wasn’t that July 4th wk-end? SG & LR had already been to Tally in June.

    • @TalLeGal
      @TalLeGal 11 месяцев назад +1

      Regarding the grand jury: wouldn’t they need Luis Rivera to testify again? I believe he’s already been transferred back to AZ. Do you think they will transport him again for testify for Grand Jury?

  • @abigailh7715
    @abigailh7715 11 месяцев назад +7

    Tim tends to make up 'facts' a lot. The judge instructed Charlie NOT to stand for the verdict though you could see he wanted to. Tim threw out his theory that he was so mad that he didn't stand out of spite. He really needs to focus more on the truth and not throwing out his made-up theories as facts. At least state them as his opinion and NOT truth. It hurts his credibility and he does it often wanting to be seen as so knowledgeable.
    The one with the highest ethics and credibility who you can trust every word is Carl. If he speculates,he qualifies it as such, and doesn't try to pass it off as legal truth.
    Tim should be made aware of how that practice lowers his reputation status and is how lawyers are regarded as untruthworthy when they say anything for $.

    • @louisebotelle9722
      @louisebotelle9722 11 месяцев назад +4

      Carl Steinbeck AKA Jury Trial Mentor, is the only coverage that is reliable and w/out hype.

  • @vincedidiana5781
    @vincedidiana5781 11 месяцев назад

    Great episode, Joel. You’re the man. Smart man, but you don’t take yourself too seriously. That’s cool. Have you ever talked about the Laci Peterson case with Mark Geragos? If not, I think it would make for a fascinating 60-90 minutes. Keep up the great work, brother.

  • @FiveCar5
    @FiveCar5 11 месяцев назад +1

    Order to interview jurors has been denied

  • @AnneStewart-oe7rj
    @AnneStewart-oe7rj 10 месяцев назад

    I LOVED Tuesdays With Morrie!

  • @princekareem
    @princekareem 11 месяцев назад +9

    I wonder if there will be jail calls where Donna convinces Charlie to testify. I can't help but think this is mostly her defence strategy

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar 11 месяцев назад +7

      I am sure the state listens to the jail calls.

    • @michaelcalland801
      @michaelcalland801 11 месяцев назад +3

      She obviously knows the state is listening. Any communication between Donna & Charlie will be through the Attorneys.

    • @princekareem
      @princekareem 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Asidebar All jail calls are recorded, but that is not something so likely to turn up in trial. But I can imagine her pressuring him

    • @Globelle
      @Globelle 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@princekareemtheir code word will be Ramen noodles now

    • @AnaPower-ct3eh
      @AnaPower-ct3eh 11 месяцев назад +1

      Donna have already thrown her son live away, not suprise if she gives Wendy away for her liberty.

  • @TheLectureRoom
    @TheLectureRoom 11 месяцев назад +13

    If you’re going to tell me that the pic of Wendi and Katie partying at the beach-is the only time they met,and that they never communicate with each afterwards-I’ll have to call BS on that one…
    I would guess, that was when Katie told Wendi that the father of her children, was a killer…That was when the murder plot was hatched…
    And they knew Charlie liked to talk tough, and had a lot of money-so Wendi and Katie made him the fall guy …

    • @TheLectureRoom
      @TheLectureRoom 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@DAdelson perhaps, but I will guess -that is when the plan went into full action…

    • @margaretlee-reed814
      @margaretlee-reed814 11 месяцев назад +1

      JL was the initial fall guy ... if that backfired then KM (or hitmen) were all fall guys.
      JL and KM were not "real" boyfriend/ girlfriend from the start ... both were dated fall of 2013 to summer of 2014 (and 'break ups' were right before/after homicide). CA brings up WA's ex by Halloween of 2013; about 2 weeks after 'dating' and breaks up 2 weeks after murder. WA starts dating JL during "bad" court decisions and denial to move granted and then begins breaking up with him less than 2 weeks before the homicide. (But, mentions an alleged; real or not, 2013 murder plot to the person she will "publicly break up with in a parking lot" and have a talk with a friend at TPD; who will suggest to LE ... JL should be a suspect.)
      As Muntz put it ... if CA isn't involved (alone with KM, or with sister WA, or with Adelson family) ... he's the most unluckiest guy on earth ... ✔️
      But, WA speaks about a 2013 plan; at least all options explored. (4-9 days later forgets to mention to TPD) But, WA also insinuates a 2014 "murder for hire" possibility (involving "her" family) to TPD during her police interview. The homicide was just before 11:00am. Her family lives 9 hours away! Why would WA even think or bring up ... family? They're at work 9 hours away! (So, WA ... thinks what?) She knows it's a hired hit. So she brings up her brother has a "new" gf. But, smoothly and swiftly ... like clock work ... settles on JL. As a "jeolous" person. 😅
      JL was supposes to kill Dan? The man WA dispised?!
      How does that work? What would be JL's benefit? Especially, if it allows WA to finally move to Miami?😅

    • @TheLectureRoom
      @TheLectureRoom 11 месяцев назад

      @@margaretlee-reed814 derivative drivel…

    • @cynthiagimbel6590
      @cynthiagimbel6590 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@DAdelson....you r Donna Adelson? Wendi and Charlie's mother???

  • @en6978
    @en6978 11 месяцев назад +3

    Divorce is always difficult when children are involved. Donna should have minded her own big nosed business with her daughter and son in law. Wendi and Donna are going to jail.

  • @lizzyfabulous8367
    @lizzyfabulous8367 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for doing the show early today because you have plans tonight. I get butthurt when I have no STS to watch. 🌹🌹🌹

  • @reneec.venegas6560
    @reneec.venegas6560 11 месяцев назад +3

    They should not arrest Donna and Wendi at the same time. One may ask to plead guilty to help the other. Get them one at a time!

    • @juanacastillo7154
      @juanacastillo7154 11 месяцев назад +1

      Praying for the safety of Dan's children.🙏❣️❣️🙏

  • @therealbe
    @therealbe 11 месяцев назад +2

    Finally, Donna’s been arrested. Another Adelson bites the dust.