Eurostar vs British Airways: Racing from London to Paris
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- What's the fastest way to get to from London to Paris - Eurostar or British Airways? We tested out both options in the ultimate train vs plane race to find out the best option once and for all.
Jean Arnas took the Eurostar from St Pancras International while Liam and Nicky headed to Paris from Heathrow Airport.
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3:54 ‘they’ve got the tv’s up, it’s such a pleasant place to be’
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I have been waiting for someone to comment this haha! I love it when the RUclips community thinks the same.
STFU FROM IRAN
Itz Liqua No need to get all angry, he was just saying..
@@Luke_05 well that's racist
Eurostar does have one advantage: you're much closer to the center of the city at the main stations (St. Pancras in London, Gare du Nord in Paris, Brussels-South in Brussels and Amsterdam Centraal in Amsterdam).
If you're traveling for business London City Airport is closer to the business area than the station tho.
@Daniel Goldbach he said business center, implying canary wharf i think
@Daniel Goldbach The business centre of London is the City of London. Canary Wharf is secondary.
Canary Wharf is on the London Underground (Jubilee Line from Green Park).
well done mate
@@darkhunter2578 heathrow is in greater london...
There is in fact a very clear distinction here. Eurostar tickets start at £29 each way, you paid £123. Having used this train plenty of times in my life I've literally never been delayed, let alone stuck under the channel for 15 mins. You used BA, a more reliable, but significantly more expensive airline, while most people would use Ryanair or Easyjet, both of whom are often late or cancelled, and take you to airports further out than CDG. The train would be the clear winner for comfort, time and usually money, not to mention the obscene difference in carbon footprint.
How come it's 29, last I checked if you haven't booked a ticket in advance it's close to 220 pounds for next days journey.
@@naughtieindia check Eurostar Snap, you will be surprised!
@@naughtieindia well of course, that applies to virtually all modern, western transport, flights London - Paris included. You'll find plenty of £29 tickets booking only a month or so in advance, and if not £29 then not much more.
@@dmdm49 Actually you never find it for 29 even if you book month in advance. Eurostar Snap does manage to give you for that price but then again the timings are as per choice.
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You plane departed from heathrow on time. It never happens in real life
It does, I’ve been on Iberia, American (surprisingly enough), British Airways and Emirates perfectly fine from Heathrow.
Talgat I’m 55. I’ve traveled on countless planes and never had a delay. Maybe you’re just unlucky.
julie Wallis Well said.
dayl1ghts I’ve been on ba, Emirates, Air France and air canada from Heathrow They have all been late :/
Mystery Guy Thats just bad luck, it all depends on the staff
Had it not been for that 15 min stop, the train would've easliy won the race!
True.
But how did the plane manage to take off and land ONTIME.
Thats pretty rare.
@@redentorgabrielulsano2812 unheard of these days! Lol
@@redentorgabrielulsano2812 it landed early
@@ethanmarlow4734 wow..now thats a rare sight.
Yes very true, and if they did the challenge with one big suitcase (needs te checked in on airports) (you need a big suitcase if you for exaple stay for 10-15 days) then the train would make it again alot more interesting.
I mean, if it's a difference of 10-20 mins :D then I'd go train anyday :D
its more expensive tho
Dan Dddy without there points the difference Will not be much.
@@billohsnap5418 not really that raid from paris airports to the Eiffel Tower probably cost the alots of cash because its a long way end if we add the ticket plane then compared that to the train ticket
@@lars2168 but the thing they took a traditional airline if they took a budget airline (i.e Easyjet) it would have been a bit of a diffrence
Honestly if you book in advance the train can be quite cheap (for one adult it can be £79 return with 2 suitcases and a bag) and you are basically in the centre of paris
*emerges out of the tunnel*
"I think this is France?"
Josh 1902 “or Bangladesh?”
Seems like Switzerland to me
Nah m8, looks like Japan to me
Mikel Sopelana Durango without the mountains .
That’s how I always feel after the euro tunnel 😂
It’s a lot more convenient to travel by train, to be honest. If you are going from London to Paris, as shown in this video, taking into account that the average person does not have VIP access and has to wait for security, checking in/out, boarding, travel time from the airport to the city center in both destinations, etc. the train is much more efficient, as the stations are right in the middle of the city, boarding is a lot more easier and you can move around the train.
Mikel Sopelana Durango what about Wolverhampton to Paris
Honestly who would travel from London to Paris by plane, it’s too short, but for long routes planes are much more effective
Stepan Zatloukal it’s cheaper tho on plane
2612 but it’s slower, planes are mainly for longer routes, because they are fast, so traveling from london to Prais by plane isn’t as great as traveling there by plane
@@Pit-jt3lw Its not, if you have luggage, which most people have, you are paying through the noose.
I think Eurostar Vs BA to Amsterdam would be more interesting because the travel times are quite similar if you start the race at st pancras and there are no delays.
Noah Bowie plane would win that easily
But the train would have a head start lol
The train would probably be delayed 4 times in brakes and none in ansterdam
Easy peasy for the plane then, trains go thru Belgium, where trains are always delayed 🤣
or Brussels
First class, priority lanes.. etc. I don’t see how this is a legit race, if you are skipping all the “normal” ways of traveling with a plane!
Oliver Miller True, but still, why didn’t the guy on the train get a first class then?
Also, the creators could promote the idea of environmentally better way of traveling with less co2 emission, by getting these small decision right... ;)
Its not because you are on a fast lane that the time departure will be earlier
CP adri That’s right, but if they would have to cue the normal way, they would probably have to take a later connection as they might have not make it to the one they did... ;)
Neither of them had bags. If this were a real situation the plane guys would have spent more time at the baggage carousel.
Mary T and you have to leave 2hrs at check in for many flights but this isn’t a problem for Eurostar
Had they had to use public transport (no cabs) to get to the eiffel tower, eurostar would have been the winner. RER/Metro/bus from either Orly or CDG would be 45 mins to an hour, while it would only have taken 30 mins or so from Gare du Nord
Very true
how about plausible delays...
@@erickrahi9765 luckily no traffic jam in paris on that day
@@Neuzahnstein true, when I came out of CDG it was rush hour... I spent like 1:30 minutes going to my hotel
I've travelled the Eurostar and BA. The plane has more potential for delays. I have not experienced a delay in the Eurostar and the train had more room and seemed more comfortable.
Next up, Northern Rail vs Horse Drawn Cart: Racing from Leeds to Manchester
The cart would win
No. Viking boat vs. Concorde from London to New York.
I’m placing my bets on my boi, the Viking boat.
No. Snail vs. Southern Rail
Kennington to Camden Town, BOTH northern lines vs (delayed) thameslink and thameslink woild still win...
you know a "delayed" northern line means it doesnt take u far...
Delayed horse buggy w/ 2 refueling stops vs. Roman legion from London to Dover
But with Eurostar you have no liquid allowance and is easier to get to Kings Cross
Toby Skinner you mean no limit on liquids 😜
@@samm4192 There are limits, you can only take 4 pint-sized cans of beer or a 1 litre bottle of wine. But they sell alcoholic drinks in the dining car so that's not much of a problem.
And it is quicker when you don't rig the race by using VIP security and check in
As you all arrived at virtually the same time, the much more relevant factors are stress-levels, crowding, how comfortable and of course the cost. The train seemed to be less stressful and less crowded, so the train wins this time.
I think train deserves to win just because of the french spoken to the cab driver.
Itz Kyle f yes
Jean is French as it is
Shivam Patel his accent sounds more german though.
@@shivampatel1359 interesting because in some of the videos Jean is using an Italian passport
@@planet_earth936 Jean is actually brazilian though😂
I absolutely love this video.
I would love to see:
Eurostar: Economy vs Premium vs Business
for normal people with any gold cards etc, the train is far quicker
Quick note to say that in order to enter the Business Class lounge for Eurostar (London and Paris), your Platinum must be issued in Europe.
vincent denuit good point!
Wow thats dumb
FINALLY! You guys have been teasing and we FINALLY have it! Another great video!
Thanks for watching!
I honestly have no idea how you managed that, every time I've been to Paris traffic was a nightmare. Congrats on a great video!
Feels almost like an old-school Top Gear race.
Kroz Jr yup
Clarkson vs Hammond and May
Car vs public transport
“Oh Cock.”
Or Amazing Race.
Thanks for all of that emotion and nostalgia still not over it ending
Reminds me of the old Top Gear 'Boat vs. Bike vs TFL' race from west of Putney over to London City Airport between Jeremy, The Stig, and Richard. Great video, lads.
James Andrews thanks!
Also the old top gear race from London to Monaco. Jeremy in an Aston Martin and James and Hamster in the Eurostar and tgv.
So, to conclude:
Speed: Almost the same
Economics: Plane slightly cheaper
Ecological: Train wins by far
DefCon1Shooter Uhm.. the plane is much faster and the train is a lot cheaper to operate.. the plane is expensive
Suli Gamer How fast does that train go?
Yeah, I was refering to the travel time, not the actual speed of the train :D
Jaswinder a flight from London to Paris is cheaper than the Eurostar to Paris
Door-to-door, assuming no delays to either train or plane, the Eurostar will always be faster.
All of these shots of the tube stations makes me wish we had a similar public transit system in the US.
Unfortunately most of us have to rely on cars or planes.
Well, NYC, Chicago, Boston, Philly, DC, and Bay Area have relatively extensive transit options. LA's is building out. What really makes no sense is that in the US no where (except to a small extent Pittsburgh) has adopted bus rapid transit, which is a cheap way to build an ersatz rapid transit system, which is all over Latin America.
Kevin, me too. Not gonna happen tho.
@@LoganLA U.S. government, I assume that's what you mean by U.S.) could care less about high speed rail. They can fund the Pentagon with 700billion dollars and could fund rail but they won''t. They are cutting AMTRAK every chance they get. They are not interested.
Amtrak is too expensive.
Amtrak Trains basically only serve poor, rural communities. The appeal of Europe of that everything is located so close to each other. Work travel is much more easy. For me, going to New York from SF every week is a major inconvenience. It just takes so long.
Who do you think is going to win? (No cheating!) 👀
The Points Guy UK Jean obviously
The plane but let’s see.
Plane
I honestly thought that it wasn’t fair that jean was delayed and that their should be a rerace or 15 mins taken off🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🥴
You guys should pin this comment, so there is a bigger chance people will see it right when they click on the video.
Bear in mind if you were travelling with suitcases for a longer holiday the train would win by at least 1hr 30 as you need to allow 2 hours at the airport instead of 30mins at Eurostar
yeah the only way the train wins is if you have a lot of bags. But I wonder, don't you have to check all those bags on a train too? I never travel with a lot of luggage so I wouldn't know...but I have traveled on trains here in the USA many times and I know you don't have a lot of room for bags there either. It's like an airplane but with no overhead bin for luggage.
You can get a "sleeper car" where you have a little bedroom to yourself where you could take a lot of bags I guess. But Amtrak also has checked bags so if you have to go through a line for baggage on the train too it defeats the advantage.
@You can eat in class!!
Even with the normal security line it doesn't take two hours to get through it dude. Maybe 15-20 minutes.
As a frequent traveler I definitely use CLEAR to bypass the main line.
Either way, if when your turn comes up, it takes more than five minutes for you to get screened you're doing something wrong.
The new screening machines that are being deployed worldwide will make it even faster, as you will not have to remove anything from your bag or remove your shoes.
In Europe these wheel on rail HSR implementations make a lot more sense as public transit because Europe is a LOT denser than we are over here in USA/Canada/Australia. The distance is simply too great over here.
In Europe it's common to have major cities less than 200 miles apart, because they became major cities back when people got around on foot and horseback, and 200 miles was a vast distance. Whereas the USA/Canada/Australia are young countries with population centers much farther apart.
The population density in the UK is 300 people per square kilometer. In the USA that figure is 30. So just based on that, it should be obvious why HSR doesn't make nearly as much sense here as it does in Europe.
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@@neutrino78x whether high speed trains make sense in the US is completely irrelevant when talking about the Eurostar (while it's true that it would be impractical in the middle of America there are definitely major cities about the right distance from eachother to make sense on the train like along the coasts and in Texas) but besides it's just wise to arrive 2 hours before the flight leaves and most people don't have any sort of VIP security, because you never know what could throw a spanner in the works (long queues, traffic or train/bus delays etc)
@@grassytramtracks Two hours is way too early. I'll get there 30-60 min early at most. Security doesn't take an hour especially if you use clear or tsa precheck.
Eurostar is way too slow for MOST intercity in usa. Yes there are certain regions like the NEC but only three or four like that (really the NEC is the only one) and you still have to fly to get from one to the other so it's a waste of money here. That's why we don't do it. Same for ccanada and Australia and new Zealand and other places.
Same solution isn't going to work everywhere.
Another fantastic video.. Hopefully I can travel around the world with my friends as well 🌍❤️✈️
Thank you Marko!
You guys deserve more attention for what you guys are doing!
They really do!
You should mention that to acquire 4500 avios you would need to spend £95 to buy 5000, or spend £4500 on a BA credit card
David Hunter so that means the flight really cost over 100£ plus 45 taxi and 22 to heathrow so train definetly won
Great video!, Very high production value, You deserve alot more views!
As a resident of London, if I were to go to Paris I would take the Eurostar every time
I used Heathrow express before and it was insane
What would have been the regular price for the flight? If comparing prices, using points isn´t really fair.
Dietmar Kuhl with BA i found it for €146.
Thanks Nationale Brandweer Nederland
So
£138 train + taxi
Vs
£210 plane + taxi
When I went Amsterdam it was cheaper by plane. But it all depends what airline and what time you're going.
It really depends on how far in advance you order the tickets I think. When I traveled from Düsseldorf to Berlin the plane was cheaper.
Montpellierm France to London, one way: 32 Euros by plane 240 Euros by train . Plane is faster & cheaper.
Very entertaining!! Very glad I found this channel!
15 min delay pales in comparison to my near 10hr (overnight) delay some 20 years ago. Was the Sunday night coming back from Paris on one of the last departures and it was the final of Tim Henman v Goran Ivanisvic Wimbledon final which was rain delayed. A freight train had broken down in Kent, blocking the line to Waterloo. We ended up spending the night onboard Eurostar, thankfully in First Class, so we had dinner and drinks onboard. We managed to crawl into Waterloo at around 8am Monday morning and jumped straight into a taxi to the All England Club where they were selling tickets for the final. In those days I didn't have a smart phone and there was no wifi onboard!
You guys are blowing your US counterparts out of the sky!! Wondering content.
But the train is much better for the climate 🤷🏽♂️
@@cupcakechronicles4551 debatable. Going 300 km/h is also really exciting.
@@GoogleGebruiker going 900km/h with plane mate :D
@@behein5179 don't feel like 900 kph whereas you feel the speed on the train
South central transport enthusiast nah. Plane is more exiting. Sorry
BeHein lol where did you get the 900kph, cruising speeds for the short to medium range narrow body planes are at 500s-600s kph
Next video:
Race Across the Atlantic:
British Airways A318 (All Club World) LCY-SNN-JFK vs British Airways direct flight LHR-JFK...
...with a race from Buckingham Palace to Empire State Building
Edit: Maybe even LGW-EWR direct?
SHA? or SNN?
@@yangzhang4120 Thank you - SNN was correct. I edited it.
Good idea and why not do LHR-EWR or LHR-JFK British Airways vs LHR-SNN-JFK British Airways Buckingham Palace to either Empire State Building or Rockefeller Center
@@EpicThe112 The airports used for a direct flight doesn't really matter.
@@comments6482 i think they mean going from lcy to jfk which stops in shannon for fuel vs the direct flight from lhr
'I think I'm in France.'
No, mate. You're in Italy.
😂
You can only do this in europe. Wow racing from london to paris. U guys seem so casual about it!
You mean I can’t race from London to Paris in Asia? 🤣
Paco Ramirez no because London and Paris are in Europe 😂
You can race from London, Ontario to Paris, Texas in the Americas.
Aymaan Enayetullah It’s seamless to get around Europe by train or plane.
As a parisian I was sooooo upset when they took taxis instead of the métro
When hs2 finally gets built it will be around 3 hours to get from manchester to paris. I think that's really cool. The uk needs more transport connections to europe.
Remember there will be no direct trains. You will need to walk between Euston and St Pancras.
yessss i was rooting for plane :p and it was a such a tight and unpredictable race my heart was pumping. honestly, great video!
They won because the train was delayed and the plane left early
Well keep in mind that if the train was not delayed then the train would win the race and that they use VIP access at the airport and that the plane left early soo it was not really fair
@@Scottish_Transport_Explorer I keep pointing this out to people, but they don't seem to realize that it reduces the overall journey time
Makes no sense to fly such a short distance, unless you are connecting from Paris into another flight. I used the Eurostar, and was amazed how stress free and fast the journey was
My first time watching your video's tonight and I'm really enjoying them. These race video's are very enjoyable, thanks for posting them. 🇬🇧
can you do different cards like Amex BA v platinum (different benefits & price)
I just rode a EuroStar from London to Paris about a week ago. Those things are super fast and efficient. Makes me wish we had that kind of rail travel in America.
Hi I am just wondering if you can put a local time clock in the corner for challenges like this! Then we can see how you are all going based on time
I love your channel, just found it! I'm from Australia 🙂
Another terrific, fun video guys❗️. Keep up the great content / creativity 😁
B.Marshall thank you!
But with the train, you have the space to stretch out and you have a view to enjoy as you zoom through the Kentish and North France countryside.
There's croissants on train too!
Also you could drink your 2L Irn bru bottle on the train. wich would been taken away at the Security check of the plane
More of this sort of thing please - both very interesting and entertaining.
Thanks! Stay tuned
Tip: Next time take a Brompton folding bicycle on the Eurostar. Faster than a taxi at peak times between Gare du Nord and the EiffelTower. If the plane guys took a bike they would have to wait to collect it at baggage reclaim, slowing them down.
Last time I checked y'all had 25k subs - now 47k
Keep up the good work boys!
The train security is more relaxed and one can take a literal truckload without anyone asking
Just now “discovered” your channel...es sit GEIL. I’m actually planning a trip to Europe next May/June and your info was really helpful. Best of luck with your channel! Cheers👊
What was the cost without avios? Plus isn’t avios now British Airways? Separately my wife and I found your channel by accident and really enjoy your content focused on flights! Would love to see some comparison flights to the US. Which is better?... American airline companies or European?
I'd like to know the cost comparison too - what was it without avios points?
This channel is coming up with the best content!! So glad I suscribed after your first video 👏😊
The Eurostar would've won if it wasn't for that delay in The Channel Tunnel easily.
I do that central Paris-central London journey quite regularly and considering transports time to Airport/station plus security time, Eurostar is faster than plane.
Additionally the train option is also way better for the environment..
Great videos guys 😄
You guys crack me up.
Great to see our boy John out and about again!
The plane guy still has to take the train.
ironic
I often travel between the 2 cities and hands down the train is better: less onboarding time (45 minutes before departure), you litteraly walk out on arrival, both train stations are easier to access and better connected than both airports, more leg room, no extra cost for luggages and the ticket price is usually similar to an economy seat on a plane
I really love your RUclips channel guys omg
I did a similar experiment last year - British Airways vs. Virgin West Coast Glasgow-London. On paper it was supposed to have been a draw.. Great video guys.
All in all, the plane flight went perfectly, which while not unheard of is rare. It sounds like the train should have beaten them by over 30 minutes.
And the plane people cheated by getting a fast pass for security
I`m American and just fount this site, very nice. Sorta like old school Top Gear without the old guys.
Nobody:
RUclips Recommendation: PLANE VS TRAIN LONDON TO PARIS
Plain
Plain
Actually I wanted to see but I'd take the train anyday.
Lmao learn to spell guys it’s
“Plane”
I would say the train would be a better option regardless of the time. Less crap at security (no restrictions on bringing liquids/gels/powders/etc on the train as far as I can see from the Eurostar website), a more comfortable journey compared to cramped economy seats on most planes (especially planes on ultra-low-cost airlines that are likely to be a cheaper option than Eurostar) and the stations at both ends are much closer to the city.
Can you do London-Amsterdam next time?!
Plane will probably win
Maybe that time the plane dudes should have a connection
You guys are the funnest friends! I love it!
Train wins. Train was unfortunate about stop. And very unusual these days for planes to not be delayed in London. A average 30 minutes. So typical trip plane would take 45 minutes longer.
noctusowl nope, train loses.
Remember top gear, I loved those raced, so thankful that someone else is doing it aswell.
Tight race 😱
U did this vid 2 weeks before I came to London and pattington was super super close to where i stayed
I think it would have been quicker (and cheaper) to take the metro from Gare du Nord, it could have made the difference... anyways I loved the video do thanks for it
I definitely prefer the train for that journey. Fascinating video, though.
Oh wow, I was at the Eiffel Tower today
THESE GUYS LITERALLY MAKING THEIR OWN AMAZING RACE
Don’t forget TfL rail as well from Paddington 😉
"Hey Queenie"..... Jean jumps into shot. I knew it!!!!! 🤭🤭🤭 love the vids guys.
You guys should review economy - first class on Lufthansa or united
good idea
Okay, I recently came back from London and one thing which is not mentioned here is that plane tickets are actually quite cheaper compared to train if you haven't booked them in advance of let's say a month. I am checking online and tomorrow's plane ticket to Paris is 40 Pounds while the trains is 220 pounds.
If the Eurostar wasn’t stuck for that long, Eurostar would Have won
The secular humanist that wouldn’t have made a difference as the departure time of the plane stays the same. However Jean would have won if not for the delay
The secular humanist but it doesn’t really affect the race though. Also what is cattle class lol
@The secular humanist well the plane departure and landing stays the same for everyone. Anyway u waited 5 months to tell me this lol
@@Gabes1321 it still affects the race because if you need to arrive earlier at the airport, that increases the overall door to door journey time
@@grassytramtracks yeah but they started at the same times anyway
I shot a video where I raced Glasgow to London air vs train. I got in trouble at Heathrow T5 station for filming on the platform. Great video guys. I was just thinking - would it have been quicker to fly London City to Orly?
I really like your British Accent. Fantastic mate.
Love your content!!
Great video.
But didn't Top Gear prove that a car is faster?
The car actually lost the last race to Milan!
@@joshlikescola car lost because of heavy road work before the Mont Blanc tunnel which is the shortcut from London to Milan because the train uses Frejus Rail Tunnel. Jeremy could have won if he went this way Strasbourg-Basel Gotthard Tunnel-Chiasso-Milan that way he could have avoided the Alpine Tunnel Road works
joshlikescola The car won the race to Monaco, just because Jeremy Clarkson didn't respect the speed limit in the French motorway and roads and was lucky not to be stopped by the French police.
Car would've lost to Paris, perhaps to Milan it was closer as the trains gets slower. Still lost though - their race wasn't accurate (as their train connections were purposefully kept so that the car can cut the time), I noticed this as James and Richard took the metro between gare du nord and gare de lyon even though there is a direct RER line that takes 10 minutes.
Great video! It's like the new version of top gear after Clarkson punched his boss 😂😂
Wow now I want to travel!!
Quite a lot of commenters are asking why Heathrow instead of London City or Gatwick: Heathrow simply has 24 flights to Paris CdG a day, while Gatwick has only three per day and London City doesn’t have any flight to or from any of the Paris airports.
From Gatwick to Paris CdG, there are about 3 flights a day. The closest flight after 11am is leaving Gatwick at 14:10 and arrives in Paris at 16:30, and those hours spent at Gatwick waiting for departure would’ve made the train an obvious winner. By departure at Heathrow, you can get a flight about every hour, which increases your chances a lot in a “race”.
Why didn't you take the Piccadilly Line from Green Park instead, straight into Heathrow? It would've taken you 40 minutes.
Correction: 1h 40mins. believe me, i do that route a lot!
@@rowansturdy2158 - Me too. It's never taken me more than an hour even from North London.
@@rowansturdy2158 no just 40 from green park
When was that filmed ?
Because going on a taxi from the airport is horrendous except on sundays and in August...
THAT WAS THE SAME DAY I WENT TO FRANCE it was at 10:24 that I went to france
Awesome video mate!
Boys this is brilliant! Queen and a Qween!