I have a lot of that stuff - and the one thing that makes me smile is just how short my ARVN rucksack straps are! My lightweight frame (the third type in this video) has the ruck and a PRC25 radio. Thanks for this info!
This video was so helpful thank you! I am currently working on my own Vietnam collection, thank you for not only explaining the packs and rucks but also who they were used by.
I served 1967/68 with the 1/14inf. Every one of us that could get one either used an arvn rucksack or a “captured” one from the n v a. I had to use that sorry ass Alice pack for a while. I “liberated” my n v a pack June 11 1967. Had to sew up a couple holes in it but it worked great. That and a claymore bag carried everything I needed.
I had the two pocket ARVN pack in '68. I had snatched it from some supply dump of used gear. As a 60mm mortar man I loved having the extra room over my USMC haversack. I never knew it was ARVN. I thought it was US Army. Had looked for one for years and only found Alice.
My dad brought back a two pocket arvn ruck he carried in 69.. he still uses it today to carry warm gear and coffee to his deer blind.. there is still dried blood on the corner outside pocket from 69 as well.. he has always refused to wash it..
I'm currently finishing up my 1968 USMC Vietnam Era impression. There isn't a lot of info out there on backpacks/rucksacks and lots of misinformation pertaining to M67 gear. Thank you so much for your help and clarification. I'm going to go find myself an ARVN ruck.
I found a rucksack at a thrift store and used it as a backpack didn’t know it was from the Vietnam war and it didn’t have the x frame but I love history so I’m glad I have it
I grew up in New Zealand in the 80s and was in the cadets i had one of those load bearing packs the riveted type not sure which year and i wanted to buy another this year and it sold on eBay for over $1000 dollars !!!! My previous one cost me $40
I have an M41 Haversack, can you tell me what the snaploop on the bottom of the bag was for, I really love vintage U.S military packs you have an awesome collection.
James McKinney thanks much! I've heard a lot of speculation about what people say it's purpose was but none of them seemed right, I'm glad to finally find someone with the real world knowledge to let me know, thanks again!
check Ebay listings under lightweight rucksack, there are some decent reproductions made from original materials available sometimes. Unfortunately original nos straps are virtually unobtainable without purchasing a complete rucksack
Great video- really interesting stuff! What did they treat the webbing with? I only ask because I have a large Australian alice pack and the webbing is drying out and i don't want it to fall to bits :)
I had 2 NOS p68s, i sold one for $300 about 2 years back.....i sure do regret that......but i did find a well used lightweight with frame and straps at thrift store for $40 recently ( they didn't know what it was)
“Very inferior design by todays standards” German army still using backpacks with no waist belts and an folded iso mat in the back as what comes closets to a frame
Hi. I’ve got what looks like the CISO INDIGENOUS RUCKSACK. Only it is not rubberised and has no map pocket. The inner flap is stamped: QM ITEM 730-1976 P/N 364-86-A43 CONT SSA-69-4661 INSPECTED: SS Any extra info as to where it came from would be appreciated. Cheers!
I have a lot of that stuff - and the one thing that makes me smile is just how short my ARVN rucksack straps are! My lightweight frame (the third type in this video) has the ruck and a PRC25 radio. Thanks for this info!
The ARVN pack was also popular with the Australian forces too.
This video was so helpful thank you! I am currently working on my own Vietnam collection, thank you for not only explaining the packs and rucks but also who they were used by.
I served 1967/68 with the 1/14inf. Every one of us that could get one either used an arvn rucksack or a “captured” one from the n v a. I had to use that sorry ass Alice pack for a while. I “liberated” my n v a pack June 11 1967. Had to sew up a couple holes in it but it worked great. That and a claymore bag carried everything I needed.
May I ask what you hated about the alice pack? Thanks
ALICE packs weren't used in Vietnam and weren't even being produced until the early 70s.....you're remembering wrong.
Lovely collection.
My favorite rucksack was the lightweight x-frame ARVN, what a great piece.
You forgot the M1952 mountain rucksack which was also used in Vietnam!
Excellent James thanks.
I had the two pocket ARVN pack in '68. I had snatched it from some supply dump of used gear. As a 60mm mortar man I loved having the extra room over my USMC haversack. I never knew it was ARVN. I thought it was US Army. Had looked for one for years and only found Alice.
My dad brought back a two pocket arvn ruck he carried in 69.. he still uses it today to carry warm gear and coffee to his deer blind.. there is still dried blood on the corner outside pocket from 69 as well.. he has always refused to wash it..
Nice collection and good presentation. Thanks.
Kurt Baier thanks
Wow...Great video. Nice collection. Very informative. Thank you!
Nice collection sir! Great to see.
I'm currently finishing up my 1968 USMC Vietnam Era impression. There isn't a lot of info out there on backpacks/rucksacks and lots of misinformation pertaining to M67 gear. Thank you so much for your help and clarification. I'm going to go find myself an ARVN ruck.
I found a rucksack at a thrift store and used it as a backpack didn’t know it was from the Vietnam war and it didn’t have the x frame but I love history so I’m glad I have it
Thanks for your video please if you have more info on these packs post
Great Video Brother! keep up the great work! Subscribed
wow where did you find all of these, they ar so expensive
Melvyn Antona for real lol
@@WarKid-ut8mx i am @the_vietnam_war_collector_ from Instagram btw ;)
I grew up in New Zealand in the 80s and was in the cadets i had one of those load bearing packs the riveted type not sure which year and i wanted to buy another this year and it sold on eBay for over $1000 dollars !!!! My previous one cost me $40
Nice collection !
When are you going to make more videos? They are vary interesting!
Great video. Thank you.
Nice collection you got there. I got some packs too. ALICE pack (large), ALICE radio pack, and a USMC FILBE pack (current use with USMC)
I thought the M-67 was called a alice pack..that is the one I have and used to have the frame, but got rid of it because it is too heavy...
Thanks for the info! Appreciated.
Great job
I need a good P68 frame. I've got the pack, shelf, and strap kit. I just need the frame! Anyone know where I can find one?
I have an M41 Haversack, can you tell me what the snaploop on the bottom of the bag was for, I really love vintage U.S military packs you have an awesome collection.
Pete McPherson that's for use when on ship and using the straps,to make it quick release, It most of the time got cut off
James McKinney thanks much! I've heard a lot of speculation about what people say it's purpose was but none of them seemed right, I'm glad to finally find someone with the real world knowledge to let me know, thanks again!
Pete McPherson bro no that's not true what he said, it was use to hold the handle of the shovel so it didn't wobble around
James I have a 1968 Rucksack frame with out straps, can you tell me where to get some straps, thanks.
check Ebay listings under lightweight rucksack, there are some decent reproductions made from original materials available sometimes. Unfortunately original nos straps are virtually unobtainable without purchasing a complete rucksack
Hey James,I’m from Australia and I think I just found a Rutsack Australian lightweight ,But not sure 🤔 Would you be able to help me if I send photos?
The Canadians made a version, it was a different shade of green and i believe the frame was coated in rubber or plastic
@@kurtrussell5228 can I send you some photos of it?How can I contact you?
You just need a M52 rucksack to complete that collection. The p series ruck had to cost you an arm and a leg
Yeah probably 1,000 -1,500 for all of those
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Some of the guys I worked with liked the NVA ruck but the only to get one is to kill one.
loved the video.. I subscribed. Ive been trying to find out how these systems worked with second line gear (LBE)
What year did the ALICE equipment start to get issued ?
it was never issued in vietnam but came out in 75-76 after vietnam.
Where did you find the early backs????
Great video- really interesting stuff! What did they treat the webbing with? I only ask because I have a large Australian alice pack and the webbing is drying out and i don't want it to fall to bits :)
Really great video, thanks alot!
you need a plywood packboard
are you willin to trade the marine pack
That's about 2 grand of lightweight rucksacks
I had 2 NOS p68s, i sold one for $300 about 2 years back.....i sure do regret that......but i did find a well used lightweight with frame and straps at thrift store for $40 recently ( they didn't know what it was)
If you watch platoon, all soldiers are seen with an ARVN. But platoon was the army, not the marines
Platoon is 25th ID, and in 1967 during operation baker a lot of G.I.'s from the 25th ID used ARVN's.
Thanks
Was the CISO rucksack used by special operations because they are sterile?
Yes,and also SOG
@@jamesmckinney747 if they had sterile bags like that, what types of rigs / harnesses for ammunition and equipment would they use ?
@@jamesmckinney747 and did they use Chicom gear ?
In some cases
MaceGaming53 They used the STABO harness
You forgot the M52!
GREAT VID.
james punch Thank you
“Very inferior design by todays standards”
German army still using backpacks with no waist belts and an folded iso mat in the back as what comes closets to a frame
I prefer my welded frame to any shit tier frames they have today, getting prone with 150 pounds
👍👍👍👏👏👏
ill buy one of those frames off of you!
Hi. I’ve got what looks like the CISO INDIGENOUS RUCKSACK.
Only it is not rubberised and has no map pocket.
The inner flap is stamped:
QM ITEM 730-1976
P/N 364-86-A43
CONT SSA-69-4661
INSPECTED: SS
Any extra info as to where it came from would be appreciated. Cheers!
it sounds like you have a forestry service rucksack