Lab-Grown Meat is Here… and I Taste-Tested It!
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Our appetite for meat is one of the greatest environmental challenges we face. Join me on a mind-blowing visit to UPSIDE Foods, the world's most advanced cultivated meat production facility, as we ask whether cultivated meat can deliver on its promises to help the environment while keeping meat on our plates.
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I've been working in this field for years. Really nice to see Joe covering my PhD thesis topic! Thank you.
What's it like?
I would love to talk with you about your work. can you tell me your email/ thesis title?
Same !
I have a BS in biology. I want to get into this field. How can I?
Really? I wanna know if you actually made any progress cause most companies are faking it.
The only thing that is keeping me from trying this is that I don't have access to it yet. Once cost and energy efficiency are figured out I would change to lab grown meat in a heartbeat.
You're making excuses - you have no moral justification for eating meat or dairy.
@@morejoy5188 people eat meat would you rather have them kill animals or eat cloned meat these are your only choices
I'd prefer the method as a meat eater. It would be nice to eat meat without feeling guilty.
Agreed . Animals are smarter than humans give them credit for
Tofu/mushrooms are already delicious alternatives…
It is so refreshing reading a comments section not filled with paranoia.
Sort the comments by newest first lmao you’ll take back that statement.
You just don't like having to face an uncomfortable reality. Reasonable suspicion is not paranoia. What did the World Economic Forum mean when they said "by 2030 you'll own nothing and you'll be happy"?
@@derp8575 The shadowy organization attended by powerful people with a sinister agenda? Yeah, it's just the illuminati all over again. History repeats.
I'll admit their transparency maybe adds a little more credibility, but they're about as influential as the masons. A real consideration; a politician with regular involvement is a red flag, but ultimately their influence is hugely overblown by the conspiracy nuts. It's an over glorified lobbying group.
@@derp8575 Actually looking into the "by 2030 you'll own nothing and you'll be happy" you're also taking it out of context :/ Seriously, look into these things before you start making your accusations.
The phrase was coined by a single member, Danish politician Ida Auken, who was writing about a dystopian future where everything was "owned" through a subscription. It was a criticism of economic shifts to product-as-a-service solutions.
So not a statement by the WEF as a whole. Not a goal, but rather a criticism of worrying economic trends. But someone probably told you the WEF wanted to eliminate private ownership and you ate it up without a second thought.
Thinking with a combative mindset is not the same as thinking critically. Critical thinking requires more than lazily getting your information from a counter-culture source without verifying it yourself.
Let me guess, you clicked the first Google search result to get that information? What did Klaus Schwab mean when he said "what we are proud of is that we penetrate the cabinets"? @@johnyliltoe
Man, you missed a trick on that taste test. The proper response was "hmm, taste like chicken"🐣
Also, I'm actually more surprised when people are surprised that it tastes like chicken. This is the kind of thing that I thought we had been working on for a lot longer. The idea of growing replacement body parts isn't all that new, and muscle is probably one of the easier things to grow in a lab (as compared to something like heart valves).
Now they just need to get a well marbled wagyu steak figured out!
Kicker: It tastes like pork.
He said it at the end if that's any consolation
@@aaron5128 lol, yeah, when he got there and said it I considered deleting my comment, but decided it doesn't count, lol
While the premise is sound, the tons of added salts and sugers required will just continue to slowly kill the population and anchor them to pharma companies. Removing industrial farming is the key.
@@blaircox1589 Did you reply to the wrong comment?
Not used to seeing Joe talk to a scientist taller than him 😂
Hey, that's me! We've been huge fans of each other for years. It was treat to have our careers bump into each other like this. I am so proud of him for his work, and it never hurts to be able to speak eye to eye with another scientist!
@@ProtiumPower in short, yes, all possible. We're working on a wide range of products. Ideally, it's familiar favorites. We want folks to eat stuff they know and love.
@@ProtiumPower and all are grown in similar ways. Most cells have a lower efficiency limit, so cells like beef see larger efficiency gains when cultivated.
@@ericschulze7136can you grow chicken eggs?
🐔
People have to remember this is a first gen product. it'll only get better, more efficient, and cheaper as we go forward.
@@doozey1they’re the same price as real meat now
Just what we need - more GMO.
Just stop eating all meat & dairy ffs
More like a third gen product, lab grown meat has been circuling around the world since 2005. Only now is it being commercially viable
If we can eat meat and not have animals suffer and die for it, I'm 100% on board for that
Right now, this is very energy dense, because it's early days. But the potential of this is incredible; if this is able to be scaled, it will be a total game-changer.
And as the technology matures, I could see "mico-breweries" but for meat springing up. A restaurant might tout that all their chicken products are grown in house and locals might flock (pun intended) to that restaurant due to their amazing home grown meat.
You could even have home town rivalries. One town insists that Joe's Diner grows the best chicken for their sandwiches while a neighboring town swears by Hank's Chicken Hut. And, of course, both would have less environmental impact than if they had shipped in farm grown meat.
Farm grown meat would likely stay around, but it would be more of a niche product and the animals would have better lives since they wouldn't need to be stuffed in factory farms.
I'd love for that to be true, but we unfortunately have good reason to believe otherwise. Cell growth medium is expensive to produce in terms of CO2 emissions [1]. Production of economical growth media dates back to work by Harry Eagle in 1955. It is not a new technology. Biotechnology is a big industry and this component can reasonably be called mature. Evolution had half a billion years to perfect growing animal bodies, including the yummy parts. There's no justification for assuming we can do better in a vat. We're sure to encounter the design challenges nature has already solved using some of those less yummy parts like lungs, feathers, intestines, beaks, etc.
[1] 10.1101/2023.04.21.537778
It cant be scaled homie
nope not gonna happen
Honestly, the whole "it will never catch on, it's too complicated / inefficient" routine has been done for just about everything innovative, and it's always been proven wrong. At the rate technology is improving thes days, I've seen it happen quite a few times in my lifetime alone. The the world is so radically different from what I remember as a kid, and technologies that used to be expensive, energy-guzzling and impractical have become so common place and relatively cheap, that I have few doubts this, too, can become viable ten or fifteen years from now.
The only obstacle is the defeatist attitude that will prevent this technology from being adequately funded and researched untill it becomes necessary, like, yesterday. Let's not kid ourselves: most of the "no can do" blabbing is born out of lobbying from industries that have much to lose from the upcoming (and inevitable) change.
🐣 As a vet student I had to visit a cattle slaughterhouse to learn about reproduction. It was very enlightening. The production chain was very efficient. We each had the option to try and kill an animal. It was very visceral and brutal and bloody even though it was according to standard procedure. It made me very aware of where my meat comes from. I think that everyone should be educated on this, to be able to form a truly informed opinion.
That's about right. I wonder how many would still insist with the "standard" procedure once the cultivated meat will cost as much as if not less than dead animals
hunting does this also, only the animal has every option to escape. And of course assuming you do it ethically (game laws are geared toward forcing people to do that but there are always bad ones out there). As I've gotten older it's more difficult to get out there and hunt and I've always wanted to have a hobby farm and couldn't and our city doesn't allow us to even keep a couple of chickens for eggs. So I'm stuck with whatever is at the store or local farmers markets or whatever. It's very frustrating to me how our society is geared toward avoiding these realities so that we take meat and animal husbandry in general for granted. (just look at how terribly and ignorantly some people treat their own pets)
Veterinarian killing an animal (outside of euthanasia) sounds realu grotesque. Like a human doctor killing a patient 'just to try' 🤢
@segel8275 Did you slaughter one?
I'm from Pakistan where we see a lot of our meat being butchered and get it from local butcheries. I have been seeing how animals get killed abd skinned and made into meat for a long time
🐣 As a meat-eater I can't wait for sustainable, affordable cultivated meat! I am very much looking forward to it!
I'm also happy the meat substitutes are getting better and better and more affordable nowadays.
Boooooyyyyy yalllll amaze me 😅
🤖 comments, all using a hatching chick in your comment.
@@johnnylego807 only because Joe told us to. "to show [we] made it to the end of the video"
Lab meat causes more pollution and uses more energy than nature
If the substitutes are getting better, then why not just switch to those?
Then you don't have to abuse any animals.....
I used to run a BBQ but now enjoy my food more being vegan
I’m an environmental engineer and sign me up! My table is waiting so as soon as can, I would. I’ve been vegetarian for 17 years so it might be a one and done for me, but it would provide a good option for meat eaters and the rest of the planet. A healthy planet needs this!
Vegans will finally stop mentioning animal abuse
@@RedoxBlade ok but animal abuse is bad? Like what
@@reiforsale2 yes it’s bad, I am just stating that vegans won’t keep mentioning it as a reason for me not to eat meat
🐣 I didn't expect that they would have the grain and form down yet because up to this point I had only seen "ground meat" forms. This is so exciting! Honestly, over the past couple of days I've seen some things that give me hope, and this is one of them. Thanks Joe!
why not just eat chicken.. you know this is never going to be equivalent to the nutritional value of a pasture raised chicken, right ?
This will be basic, cheap as they can make it, claim it's healthy but stirred with GMP chemical BS for profits.
this is specifically chicken. stem cell research seems to be able to produce living muscle fibres that function and can be conditioned. obviously there can be no tone without autonomic or somatic innervation, but as long as the muscle thinks that it is in an organism, it will organise itself correctly. this is how we grow working hearts for transplant recipients. the lab grown heart has to pump blood the same way as the original heart does right? 😂 if they figure out the bone thing, they might be able to grow entire cuts. im more interested to see how they do non-lean meats. fat cells are a different beast altogether.
@@sammyalabamy111 What? Who was being negative? I literally said that it gave me hope. Your response is creating the opposite reaction.
@@disky01 Apologies... was responding to someone else, don't know why went to you, will delete it.
@@jonathanodude6660it’s a tumor
I'm so sure that no matter how identical it is to regular meat, some people will just say it's not the same
It is cancerous
Are you joking or serious?
@@janisjunkie69Probably joking, and if they aren’t, they’re wrong 💀
This is literally growing tissues as they grow anyways, so no duh it would be exactly the same with no different effects
It’s some weird psychology phenomenon yeah 💀
If they can get cultivated meat to a price point that's cheaper than regular meat, then psychological barriers to entry don't matter as much, most people will slowly transition to it even if it takes a while.
I will be first in line to eat this chicken-meat. Bring it on! I was raised on a farm in 1940s, watched my mother chop chickens' heads off w/ hatchet. Yes, the decapitated bodies do briefly "run around like chickens with their heads cut off". Then comes plucking feathers.. and you can imagine the rest. I don't have PTSD from the experience but will think back when I see chicken pieces/parts on my plate.
Thank you for this video!
🐣It does feel strange to think that we could cultivate meat from a lab rather then an actual animal. But I would happily eat lab grown meat as long as it is cost friendly, environmentally friendly, and it resemble meat that I know in every way.
Unfortunately this stuff is neither affordable nor environmentally friendly. You should know that since your emoji indicates that you saw the end.
It’s been linked to cancer and they add so many chemicals and preservatives into fake meat.
Just eat meat. This is Frankinscience.
@@jackmason5278 But when the day does come, I'll be thrilled to try them.
I'm not going to eat the bug. You can't fix this from the bottom-up. This is what liberals believe in.
Not wanting to know how that meat got to our table* That hit home, every time I watch these documentaries I become more conscious, from shopping to cooking to eating. Only thing is, as a poor struggling family (me and dad) it's just not feasible to go meatless, it's cheap in comparison. Hopefully that will change within my lifetime.
It depends. I'm self employed so I only paid myself £6k last year, most of which went on rent for my house share. I'm vegan and I managed to do it - just found out what times your local supermarkets reduce their products and get the reduced vegan options that no one else buys, that's what I do 😂 also, Oxford proved that a whole food vegan diet is cheaper than vegetarian or omnivorous diets, so either way, cost isn't really an issue regardless of income. Vegan substitutes at full price are the only way a vegan diet can be more expensive, and that's only because they aren't given government subsidies in the way animal products are.
Beans, lentils, potatoes, grains are cheap as heck and they're the staple foods of some of the poorest countries on earth. Typically the richer nations are the more meat-consuming ones. Eating meat-free isn't as out of the range of your budget as you think. It may just cost you time to learn new recipes.
Having been in a similar situation, eating a plant-based diet can be tragically less expensive and higher quality. The price of that for us was developing better cooking skills.
I'm on benefits & my family eats so much better for way less after going plant based. I've saved a fortune on pain killers too. My inflammation went down in my dodgy knees after going vegan. It's amazing!
Vegan alternatives are usually cheaper that animal products.
Almost all animal products, dairy and eggs are subsidies - so they are kept artificially low thanks to taxes.
❤ bless the research
So excited for this future!
I'm glad to hear they figured out how to grow the more complete meat. I remember a few years ago they were growing pure muscle and it was reported to taste horrible because it was missing so much of the other stuff in meat. Also... 🐤
It didn't taste horrible. It was immensely bland.
Like sticking your tongue out of the window.
The delicious flavor of meat doesn't come from the pure muscle-protein alone, but from the fat, meat-juice, myoglobin, colagen etc.
@@lakrids-pibe Have you tasted it? Are you making the claim that this company's produce doesn't contain fat, meat-juice, myoglobin, or collagen in the same proportion as chicken breast? How do you know that?
Just eat Gods meat. Beef
@@DontCancelMeBrowhat did Satan invent microorganisms?
@@ssgoko88 Satan invented LGBT
They should have blind tested you to see if you could pick out natural chicken vs theirs. Also it would have been nice to know how much the chicken you ate cost them to make. That was probably like a $300 chicken sandwich 😂
They said near the end that with current technology, it costs $21 per kg to produce cultivated meat (as opposed to $10 per kg for the real thing).
And while the majority of people can't afford to spend twice the money on the same weight/volume of meat they eat in a week, that price is still well within the reach of those who prefer to go to the more upmarket supermarkets (like Waitrose and M&S in the UK).
For those who can't afford to swap over to cultivated meats, but want to be more cruelty-free, at least some are going to try them now and again or cut back on the real meat so they can afford a little cultivated instead.
For those like me, who have tried veganism, but have other food intolerances, which made it necessary to back off a bit and resort to vegetarianism instead - cultivated meat is a way forward.
Vegan meat alternatives often aren't that cheap either, and I don't think it's that big a step to pay a little more for cultivated meats.
@@debbiehenri345 sorry to correct you, but they said that cultivated meat can cost anything from $21-$236/kg. Of course, this will get cheaper over time, but I'm sure only very few could afford meat in the upper portion of that price range
next tim
@@debbiehenri345 problem is, vegan meat alternatives already aren't selling well and seem to already hit their ceiling. Introducing a more expensive vegan meat alternative doesn't look like something that can break that ceiling. It needs to be cheaper than regular meat so that people who eat meat would buy it instead of meat, while they are trying to sell meat to people who don't like buying meat
@@NJ-wb1cz sure, but you gotta consider that this is a rather small factory where they had to figure things out first. I hope that we'll see growing production capacities and thus falling prices in the next five or so years
It cannot come soon enough for humanity to dig itself out of the massive unethical hole that is animal agriculture and gain the bonus of environmental balance while doing so. Not that eating animals and their secretions in most cases, could just be stopped right now. If society survives it needs to be an ethical society as well as sustainable.
Really excited for this
🐣 I'm very excited about this. I'm autistic with sensory issues, so there are a LOT of foods I can't eat. Ethically, morally, I'd like to be vegan, but since my diet is so restricted, I wouldn't be able to get by without eating meat. I'm so excited that there are alternatives finally coming to market that actually taste good.
stick to vegetables this is grown chemical stuff
@@aalaal-uq8vx Everything you eat is chemicals.
I don't believe the majority of people who say they are autistic.
I think it's more likely that they never grew out of their childish 'picky' food choices and their parents affirmed it. Then they grow up and believe that their picky choices are an illness.
I believe most 'autistic' people just need their ass kicked and to be properly parented.
'Sensory issues'...lol
How do you define chemical
farm fresh vegetables and fruits from a local farmer is good! I've been feeling a lot better with these. I have a low spectrum as well. A2 milk is good too. Yerba mate is healthy too, from the mate factor. It has more antioxidants than green tea and has vitamins and minerals in it.
🐣🐣🐣 I’m Vegan and I literally CANNOT wait. What degree do I have to get to go munchin on the lab chicken?
Katie Karen Dickmeyer moment
At what point is someone vegan because genetically this would be an animal byproduct?
The only difference is we took animal cells and forced them to multiple in a petri tank.
Even if this were a thing, there will be questionable ethics questions on how the stem cells are taken to grow these synthetic meats.
@@ShouTan exactly (fun fact: I am Uma valeti’s relative but very distant)
And im a carnivore that eats spinach
Preferably the degree that explains what a vegan is and why they don’t eat meats
Im so excited about this
This comment section is 90% bots
Someone is really trying to push this “meat”. 🐣 once the technology is more advanced, only the rich will be able to afford real meat
@@junior1497true
I thought so too when I saw all the emojis. But then I watched the video and he did actually tell people to use that emoji in the comments lol
@@junior1497I think both sides are ignorant. Vegans shouldn't push anything on meat eaters and if they are making meat substitutes there is no reason why you have to be so against it, sounding like an anti vaxxer
@@kos-3327 yea I shouldn’t be forced to eat lab grown meat.
🐣 As a vegetarian, I would go for cultivated meat as soon as it hits the shelves. I miss a lot of meat product I used to consume and it truly is a big part of our culture. It's simply a shame we can't yet farm animals properly.
Looking forward to the future❤
If you are vegetarian for the animals, why aren't you vegan?
Wel, we can farm animals properly. The only thing is we would need to eat much less animal products if we would do so.
@@TheJesster257 I'm a vegetarian for the greenhouse gas emissions and land use. I do eat game meat 2-3 times a year.
@samueldavid861 so you're not vegetarian? Vegetarians dont eat any meat...this is the ridiculous comment 😂😂😂 Its that meme...I'm a virgin who has sex 2-3 times a year 😅😅
@@PyjamaRex Ah, I misunderstood your "farm animals properly" statement as caring about animals. Turns out you only care about human animals?
🐣🐣🐣 Once it’s a little more affordable and easier to access for the average consumer, I’ll be ALL about this! It’s very hopeful to see this progress. Thanks for taking us along 😊
@@urbugnmetoday3183 what is food? As long as it provides necessary nutrients to survive, I'd say in the broadest definition it is food. As for the carbon footprint, this is still initial stages, are you saying you can't fathom a future where this could run on clean energy?
@@urbugnmetoday3183 I will thanks for looking out! ✌️ Good luck to you, hope you don't happen upon people conceived through IVF, since you know, they were made in a "vial" and hence not "real" people 😉
@@urbugnmetoday3183 It is real mate. You are not biting into an augmented reality steak. It's just made differently that's all.
@@urbugnmetoday3183Damn you’re just scouring this comment section being insulting to people, aren’t ya?
Gross. Greedy corporations will fill these with chems for sure. Hard pass.
Amazing work! This is the type of innovation that will push our society into a new and better age for humans and other species on our planet alike.
Amazing Content Mahn
I've been wanting this to be a thing for years. I'd ABSOLUTELY try cultivated chicken. 🐣🍗
Soylent green is people
@@MrPolandballIf you make it this way Soylent Green actually can be ppl. Imagine the “Meat’s back on the menus boys!” Burger. With the add campaign, “People, the other, other white meat” 🥩
I can't wait for this to be available in all grocery stores! This is definitely the future of meat!
We were all supposed to be traveling with our own jetpacks by now too.
im sure you will pay $225 for 2 chicken breasts too! Good luck with that.
@@johnbarry5036 Impossible Food/Beyond Meat started out with those prices, coming out of the labs. And now they have competitive prices with real meat. Same with any other commodity. Once they can scale it, then it will be cheaper and more available to everyone, bringing down the prices.
@@johnbarry5036 You paid $10,000 for your current cell phone, right? That's what they originally cost when they came out, so obviously nothing ever gets cheaper as the technology develops 🙄
@johnbarry5036 Cost Curves exist. Look at RethinkXs research. They hold that animal ag will be bankrupted by this tech by 2040 due to its lower costs. Dairy could be bankrupt this decade.
Loved this 🐣
Human population is constantly growing and the old methods of producing energy for all of us stop being enough.
We constantly have to make our energy production more efficient if we are going to feed all the people.
Go science.
Actually, the population isn’t growing as fastly as it was years ago. It is declining slowly.
Uma Valeti comes across as a really genuine and nice guy. I’ll be interested to see what else he does in the future.
People said the same about Bill Cosby
@@Pangolin-Mandolin why are you comparing an assaulter to a person who is trying something ethical and good for the environment sustainably.
Will you also compare Steve Jobs with hitler just because both had cult following?
I know, right? It seems like he's genuinely super interested in all aspects of his company and all of the scientific and societal implications. He knows how freaking cool this is, but doesn't lose sight of how difficult it is to 'fool' something so precise as the human senses.
I am worried that corporations will see good marketing potential in it and completely ruin it. There's a hope to get it not only safely, but also try to make it as healthy as possible, but if megacorporations touch them, it will be ruined.
It’s already ruined
''megacorporations'', who do you think is sponsoring these factories and scientific efforts? You can bet megacorporations and other interest structures are involved in this development. Are they trustworthy in their endeavors and are their motivations virtuous? These are the essential questions.
probably it will because of how bad is capitalism
That’s what it’s about…money money money money
@@urbugnmetoday3183Hey there you are again! Making people mad bc you’re mad
Awesome progress 🐣
Love this!!
Thanks for shedding some light onto such a trailblazing industry. I’ve always been fascinated by biotech
I might not agree with all statements in this video, but I love how the arguments are well presented. Thank you for illustrating how conventional meat production can waste many resources.
@@Subliminalsapperit's a 15 minute video they shot on site. Obviously they would love to dive into that, but that wasn't the intention for this video. This more like a PSA, showing off where lab grown meat is at. You can expect many more videos from them about this subject breaking it down further.
Their illustration of how conventional meat production can waste many resources was misleading. For example, 86% of cattle feed is a mixture of forages and byproducts such as almond hulls, distiller grains, and soybean meal that humans cannot consume. Those are calories that can be upcycled into meat. That's not waste.
We grow massive amounts of feed, refine it and give it to animals, and occasionally we give them waste.
It's well established that if we all adopted a 100% plant-based diet we would reduce our farmland by 75%. We could reforest as much land as North and South America. Source: Our World in Data
@@WeissM89 This is a myth based on the false assumption that it's possible to swap pasture for cropland, acre per acre. In many parts of the world, pasture is nearly identical with land unsuited for growing crops. Especially in developing nations, pasture requires less human labor per calorie of food.
But yes, we grow massive amounts of feed. I'm all for reducing factory farming. That's beside the point. This video did a poor job conveying the truth. They let industry write the script and it's filled with industry-sponsored lies. Their illustration of how conventional meat production can waste resources was misleading for this reason.
I am glad that we are experimenting and finding ways to make enjoyable parts of life (e.g., eating food) more sustainable. I know there will be unknowns about any potential adverse effects cultivating meat in this way could have that will take time to reveal but, it is still good to try.
Definitely worth a try. Attracted to concept and potential benefits
Can this meat be considered ultra processed?
Reaction & actions of vested interests a concern
Worth a try for sure.
Yet they are lying about some of those numbers. They don't factor in the fact feedstock is made of a lot of the plant byproduct we don't eat. Think it is like 86% of all feed is byproduct. Ruminates especially are great at that.
Also nearly all of livestock byproduct is used. We don't just cut the good meat out, and toss the rest.
Anyway if their product tastes as good, for cheaper I will buy it. I'm super curious on the nutrient content.
Yet lying with misleading statistics pisses me off to no end.
I think they should have gone for steak products. Since beef is more expensive then chicken, and being able to sell some steak patty thing that taste like prime A for cheap would be awesome.
As a biologist, I frequently see reporting on the hype of "lab grown meat" biased towards the "magic solutions" it will solve, and supposed (claimed) advantages without a proper understanding of the biology of what lab grown meat is trying to achieve. Therefore, there is no rigorous explanation of how they will magically solve these problems "15 years from now, 20 years from now", because currently there are no viable solutions, and they are banking on technology that has not been invented yet (hoping they would be the ones to invent it, patent it and make a boat load of cash). Unfortunately, this video falls into that category. Here's a few major things this video missed. The two main important things to consider in this lab process is supplying nutrients, and removing waste. These cells are cultured in large vats called bioreactors. These reactors attempt to mimic the "body" the cells live in, but the main difference is that they are trying to mimic a process that has evolved over millions of years in nature. Circulatory systems, kidneys, liver, immune systems, none of these processes of which can be replicated to any significant degree in the lab with current or near term technology. These along with the "unused" (this I'll get to) "wasted" parts all contribute to the function of the organism. Unfortunately lab processes can not achieve the same level of complexity and efficiency of the animals themselves, who have existed under selective pressures that have resulted in them becoming the most biologically efficient version of themselves. Humans have managed to improve upon this through selective breeding, and now accelerated through genetic modification, and this is likely the most pragmatic approach for the future of food security. The niche role lab grown meat will fill is growing meat of extinct species, like mammoths for example, for the rich that want to say they ate lab grown mammoth meat etc etc. This is simply marketing for venture capitalists looking for unicorns to throw money at like everything in the tech business, and not biology, and unfortunately I feel like this video does not make a good distinction between that.
EDIT: I never got to the "wasted" products. What about things like leather, feathers for pillows etc? I can make a whole separate essay about the intricacies of the meat industry but basically, there are ALOT of things other than meat that come from a chicken or cow that are used. I won't speak for the US, but anything useful that is wasted is money gone in the rest of the world, and in fact a lot of problems associated with the meat industry, such as cruelty and overcrowding, stems from intensive hyper efficiency to reduce waste and cost.
I should also mention that speed of growth does not translate to overall yield. The time and energy investment into a chicken has a far greater overall yield than compared to the same amount of time in for lab grown meat.
At least one other person has studied this too…I shouldn’t be amazed how the sheep do what they are programmed to do but wow…
Thanks mate, those are important points that most people haven’t considered yet, particularly those of us who aren’t biologists and haven’t heard of lab grown meat until 16 minutes ago.
Perhaps people assume that nutrient quality/density is part and parcel with lab grown meat but it turns out it’s way more complicated.
Would that likely be the first corner that gets cut if this industry gets off the ground?
You should’ve being presenting that video instead of that guy. You seem way more balanced in terms of the pros and cons, not to mention the actual challenges that lay ahead
@@CursedWheelieBin That won't be an area that could be cut. The nutrient has to be perfect, every time, with 0 contaminants, otherwise the entire batch will fail, because the cells don't have an immune system or any means to fend off contamination. It can't be grown in antibiotics if they intend for human consumption. There is a HUGE amount of money poured into developing growth media, and sometimes contaminants still find their way in, and ruin entire batches (I know this from experience). The level of difficulty in preventing contamination is definitely a major issue in this field, and scaling it up like this just makes it exponentially more difficult. The amount of equipment, time, and energy poured into preventing contamination in that facility must be massive. They didn't go into the specifics of what growth nutrients they used, but a lot of the time they are derived from animal products then purified and standardized in a lab (which is why it is so expensive), like bovine serum, so doesn't that defeat the purpose? Is it not easier to just genetically modify a better grain, and feed that to the chicken? There's a reason why chicken costs as much as it does...
Even if lab grown meat takes off, I doubt it will completely kill actual livestock farms. leather and gelatin will still be around, both of which also have plant-based alternatives. We can already produce reagent antibodies and culture white cells. Wonder if they could simulate any sort of immune system to combat the contamination problem.
You voiced it better than I and brought up some very good points I hadn’t considered. Well said/written
I think I'd feel way more comfortable eating meat if I knew it wasn't ever an animal that felt pain. I recently started to keep chickens (for eggs) and I was really shocked at how friendly and affectionate they can be when given enough food, water, space and attention - they are surprisingly pet-like and they definitely recognise familiar humans who bring them treats. They absolutely race towards me, when they remain somewhat curious but distant when they meet a new human. They also enjoy music, oddly enough - they come and nestle nearby and close their eyes for their own little chicken hippy concerts.🐣
It's sad we now live in a world where we're so disconnected from nature that you found other animal behavior shocking, but I'm pleased you got to have that moment. We have more in common than differences, we should abhor cruelty towards the other animals we share this planet with... we're just not that good at sharing, hopefully we can do better.
🐣 I can't wait to try this meat! And it gives me so much hope for the future of the animals and the planet. Thank you so much for making this video!
Can someone explain why is everyone starting with a chicken emoji
🐣 I have been looking forward to this. It’s a huge step towards sustainability
no 💀
🐣When Beyond Meat hit the shelves I eagerly awaited when it would be available near me and purchased it as soon as I could. When companies started making cow-free dairy I scoured my local stores to find a 1/2 pint of ice cream made with it. Currently cultured meat is a little too pricey for me to afford regularly addint it to me diet. But as long as it's closer to the $20 mark versus the several hundred dollar mark mentioned in the video I will not only be happy to try it when it's offered, I'll track it down and buy some as soon as it gets within a 1/2 hour drive of my house.
I would totally try 🐣grown in a lab. I hope it is the future of food. I hope it turns out it is healthier and better for the environment.
It won't necessarily be healthier as that would change things like taste and mouth feel - but a goal, perhaps the primary goal is environmental - and THAT and that we don't have to kill for this is why I'm so excited for this technology. It pains me that I won't get to live in a world where this is normal and the idea of killing something just to eat it becomes barbaric.
Carcinogens are also grown in labs too bud.
@@MrPolandballStill better than eating pesticide and antibiotic in farming. Beside i believe that every food nowadays have carcinogen element, even hot sauce has carcinogen ingredient in it, the thing is that they're small in quantity so our liver can handle it thus they don't powerful enough to penetrate our defense. I believe this is more of people afraid to try new thing than normal meat is safer than synthetic meat because both have up and down.
@@pw3858I don't that is what he was saying at all. Humans don't eat in the same way as wild carnivores do, we farm. I think Ross wants the way we farm changed. In the wild, there is a natural barrier to carnivores becoming too successful, scarcity of food. If they hunt their prey too much, there's less to go around, so the carnivores starve and thin in numbers, giving the prey time to repopulate, and the cycle repeats. Humans effectively broke that cycle through agriculture.
Oh... It can be corrupted... Knowing humanity... It shall be if proven lucrative enough.
I've loved the idea of science meat since the Star Trek replicator meat, so I'm on board :)
Would definitely try it! 🐣
Awesome! This is so nice to hear that this has been done and you have made so much good progress!
YES WE CAN!
I'm all in and can't wait. Wife's screaming "NO WAY, EVER!" like her hair is on fire. Keep in mind, it's so expensive and energy dense, because they're more focused on getting everything as perfect as possible, and all that new equipment that had to engineered needs to be paid for. But, I firmly believe the energy density and production cost will reduce significantly when it becomes mainstream (and it will have to). VCR's were $2,000 and movies cost, on average, $200 back in the early 80's. In 2003, I bought one for $19 at Walmart, and it came with two free movies. Just one of the lessons. 🐣
p.s. Where's the beef! 😁
Don't forget to do your own research! As much as I love Be Smart, you can't take everything at face value. It's always good to find other perspectives on a topic, so here's a video on just that: ruclips.net/video/myX1uav1Kxk/видео.html Don't stop there though! There's tons of information out there and it's great to keep searching and make your own well-informed conclusion on things!
Thanks - a really interesting topic I used today for a discursive writing lesson 🐣
I agree more on this than slaughtering animals for consumption.
🐣I've been waiting for this to be a thing ever since I first heard about it ten or so years ago.
I do enjoy a burger or a barbecue every so often. That said, my main issue with lots of meat alternatives is that they're all trying to taste like meat. I actually like the taste of many vegetables: mushroom burgers, roasted greens, spinach. I enjoy them because they're not trying to taste like something else and failing. So this is a good idea for those that really like meat but have ethical concerns about eating animals. In its current state it does not address greenhouse gases but who knows, maybe when the tech is mature it will be better. 🐣
They try to taste like meat because there is a lot of demand for that, usually people who go vegan still liked the taste of meat, they stopped eating it for ethical or environmental concerns, but most of us still like the taste of it and would gladly eat it if it didn't have these problems.
You can try different Indian food. You can also try paneer. Many Indian foods don't use meat and tastes unique and tasty
🐣 I agree 100%. I eat veggie patties because they taste different from hamburger.
they say real meat costs a LOT to produce , yet a bag of 20 sausages here costs like £1.50 thats 50% pork ,yet a 4 pack of vegan sausages costs £4 .. do the math, vegan brands are a rip off , this marketing is why we laugh
One that surprised me last week was 'beetroot burgers.' As a vegetable on its own, I'm not that keen on beetroot, and my son doesn't like it at all. But we both like what one brand (UK) did with beetroot burgers, without trying to make them into a 'meat taste/texture' alternative. All they did was take the right spices and grains to make this vegetable much, much more palatable.
Mushroom burgers!
You have to be there when they put these on the shelves in our local supermarket, because people love them and stock up when they see them. Again, they don't taste meaty, they just taste like high quality mushrooms.
I would definitely try it! It would need to be close in price to traditional meat for me to buy it regularly.
It should be cheaper than the traditional meat with same quality to get the commercial success.
Great video. Truly great. I learned a lot from this video and the it answered many question I wondered about lab meat.
Thank you for this video, I'm vegan for this reason! You make my month more happy!
Keep thinking that.
@@Onthegorich you okay?
🐣 I'm all in as soon as it becomes affordable!
Great, informative video, as always. Thanks!
Normally, I really am an optimist. But do I think that I, at 35, will life to see this become affordable? It's really hard to tell.
Much progress has been made in terms of taste, I give you that. But how much progress has been made in terms of scalability? I mean, just consider the level of education the staff needs to have. It's not exactly your everyday farmhand. I really want to, but I simply can't see this tech becoming anything but prohibitively expensive anytime soon.
Does the process that company uses still use bovine growth hormone? That's my biggest problem with lab grown meat and It wasn't mentioned at all.
🐣 I'm excited to try it! Where can I find it? And how much does it cost?
I did a small report on lab grown meat in my first year of college in 2018. I’m so excited to see it get the coverage it deserves!
It doesn’t deserve the coverage and it’s only a disaster.
This is not only disgusting but sad that you cultists have no idea what kind of monster you are ushering in.
Get out of your bubble. Step back. Look at the bigger picture. Take the blinders off.
I've never in my life seen so many 'smart' people act so incredibly dumb.
Yeah, the cancer it causes is so exciting. Maybe I’ll write a college paper on that.
@@rslongshot7453 i dont know if thats true or not but this comment had me laughing so hard lol straight youtube gold
@@LittleRadicalThinker Oh come on. Trust The Lab Meat. It's FDA approved. I know they're captured by industry but we gotta believe somebody(?)
I'm so excited for this technology to take hold 🐣
🐣 very impressive progress!
This technology promise to fix most of our world problems.
Ecological disasters, water consumption, food poisoning, food distribution to everyone, everything...
We must invest in such technology.
🐣 definitely can't wait to try it!
If it tastes the same, people might actually switch one day!
Except for the fact it's unhealthy as hell.
@@JaysonT1 idk where you heard that, but you can state your resources....
I won't assume it's unhealthy as hell, but in addition to tasting good, it does also need to provide the same or better nutrition values for me to willingly switch.
The first computer cost $400,000 ($6.2M in today's money). The first cultivated hamburger cost $330,000 ($430k in today's money). Right now, cultured meat is where computers were in the 1970's; expensive, large, inefficient. Hopefully, we're right on the doorstep of hitting the cultured-meat equivalent of the personal computer revolution of the 1980's.
I could see in the future the process of making cultured meat being done at home in a machine similar to the bewadmaker concept. You would buy the ingredients, a culture and the liquid feed etc. and then make your own meat at home. Probably still 30 years away but definitely possible
As a meat lover, the potential thishasfor the variety of available cuts is utterly mouthwatering
As a vegetarian, I would eat these. As long as no animal is harmed in the making of these, Im down.
@@MySmileStillStaysOn i mean they do need a sample of meat to clone
@@Dragoboi1998 from my understanding from this video, they need an original sample that they said is the "size of a grain of rice" and then can continue to grow tissue from those first few cell lines (fat cells, muscle cells, etc). A sample the size of a grain of rice doesn't really hurt or kill an animal
I am really excited about this! I'm not vegan, but I think we can do better for the animals we eat
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And for the environment!
Yep. I am a guilty meat eater who prefers not to think about how my meat is made. This is huge and as soon as it comes on the market in Australia I will be buying it, and for the first time eating meat guilt free.
What about the animals that predators always eat? Shouldnt we be making lab grown meat for predators too so they stop killing and eating other animals? I mean they’re meat eaters too and kill their prey cruelly and slowly sometimes, those cruel meat eaters better be stopped
Sickos.
@@Yeahitsgoodtobefree What about arsonist? Why are we bothering trying to stop them? After all there's always something that will end up starting a fire, why should we bother trying to prevent them then?
See the problem with "what about" rethoric is that it's easy to say whatever you want without adressing the core issue.
🐣i wanna taste it. May be soon i will try it. Thank you for your interesting video
🐣I would love to try this, and I can't wait to see this develop and become more efficient and cheaper. If that can be done this can become a large player in meat production
🐣 I would love to make the switch! We've been teetering on the edge of going meat free based on ethics. I think this avenue would make it an easier change. It would have to be affordable though.
I think that the more people stop buying meat from farms the more incentive there will be to make lab grown meats. If you don't mind me asking, what is stopping you from going meat free?
Easiest thing you'll ever do if you genuinely care about the ethics. Just go vegan, worry about missing meat later. (Spoiler: you won't miss any foods if you're vegan for the animals)
@@kasroa agreed, before going vegan I thought it was the hardest thing. But it really wasn't, some research was needed to find out what to replace the animal foods with but after that it was fine. There's also very good mock meats you can eat once in a while if you ever do get cravings
Perhaps this was answered in the video and I just missed it, but would you be able to eat lab-grown chicken without the risk of salmonella? Since it doesn't come from a real chicken
They do mention that the cells are grown in a bacteria-free medium. So yes, no risk of getting salmonella.
Yes actually! There is basically zero risk of food borne illness. That’s another upside to this tech.
I can finally eat my chicken medium rare!!!!
No, there would be a reduced risk, but salmonella isn't exclusive to farm or processing. The meat can be contaminated at any stage of the supply chain, including your kitchen. Treat it exactly the same as you would treat normal chicken.
Salmonella comes from the digestive tract of animals, particularly birds. Same with E. coli, campylobacter and listeria. No poop = No faecal bacteria.
What else do they put in besides what ever they put in ?
Chemicals. Lots of chemicals 😊
To be environmental friendly, it has to emit less gaz into the atmosphere from the construction of said labs to the whole chain of production then the transportation, not just the energy necessary to power the lab.
It would be also interesting to see the cost, not just to buy the products but also ressources wise in building the labs. Not many people are aware of that. Thanks for noticing a part of those problems.
That was really cool! 🐣 Thank you for taking us there with you. You helped answer some questions I had when I first heard about cultivated meat. I am also wondering how they create the form of the chicken breast or other final product forms from the cells of the chicken.
I will eat it with no issues or complains, just make it affordable so I can live on it.
🐣 great video!
🐣I work at a big Packing plant and I maybe putting myself out of work but I would be able to try this. I would also like to point out that we do use a lot of other things from the animals that are slaughtered ie leather.
Personally I can't wait until this is available in every city. I live in one where finding not-factory-farm meat isn't too hard, even in local restaurants, but I still only eat meat once or twice a week, and somewhere saying it's ethically sourced isn't a guarantee it really is. 🐣
But you’ll believe this video, even when it states we don’t use the entire cow when we absolutely do (often in dog food as meat meal, hooves, bones, tendons, penises are dog chews, people feed tongue, brain, heart….) Are you city people this gullible? They sure hope so.
Except here in Florida where they have banned lab meat... Guess I'll have to smuggle some in and then risk being a criminal! And as a vegetarian who knows they may force feed me cow, pig, and chicken meat!
🐣 Honestly I am super excited about this and really hope we can get the cost and energy consumption per pound of product down sooner than later. I cut beef and ungulates out of my diet a while back to keep my CO2 footprint down, especially since I'm allergic to legumes. Not to mention the issues with how we treat animals to get them to the table is absolutely abhorrent. Being able to get my daily protein without the guilt of knowing something else suffered for me to do so, while also knowing my CO2 footprint is as small as possible, and being able to steer clear of allergens.... that's really the dream!
It sounds good on paper but there could be very horrible health implications, there is no long term testing on this food and it is processed with many chemicals that are undisclosed. While the titanic submarine was sinking last month, they passed a bill that allows sale of fake/artificial meat through legislation without any regulation. There are no studies.
the question i have is how small of a collection of healthy animals do you need to keep to feed the sample of cells to start growing?
the other question is can you take a sample from meat you grow and how long term could you continue taking a sample out of what you make?
It’d be so great when they can grow the best cuts of meat with the perfect marbling. Then it’d be any cuts of meat of any quality and characteristics on demand 😊 oh! And I’d love if they could grow different types of fish fillets too
I'm very happy about this kind of progress in food science, and science in general. 🐣
🐣 I just visited Upside Foods website but I wasn't able to continue reading every bit because I was crying. I read enough to know I'm grateful and even a tiny bit hopeful that they are a real answer to our meat consumption problem. More importantly an answer to the horrible way we've been treating animals since industry took over food production. There's no hope for us as a species if we don't embrace this science and change our eating habits. I don't think I will ever eat meat again but I would purchase this product and support it with all of my heart and my wallet.
Thank you! And the very best of luck to the scientist and the creators and the investors. I wish I could be one of them. This innovation is going to make all the difference. It has to or we are doomed
What I’d there is no legit meat consumption issue. I’ve heard of farmers being forced to decrease their production by governmental agencies.
@@BmoreBetterNOW Florida government-has banned lab meat... Guess I'll have to smuggle some in and then risk being a criminal!
This concepted is very chilling after thinking about "made in abyss" scene.
🐣 I will definitely eat it. I think we need to create some serious balance
Very interesting. I know the vegan options as meat alternatives aren’t really that healthy for you. What I’d like to see OSS a deep dive into how healthy this brew lab grown meat is. Do they use antibiotics, salt injections, etc. or is it basically organic?
Keep looking around for more information, the more perspectives, preferably unbiased ones, the better. Here's a video where you can start: ruclips.net/video/myX1uav1Kxk/видео.html Good luck on your quest for knowledge!
@@heydontjudgethe video you linked is clearly biased. Else why would there be such a clickbaity title? and nothing in the video has a source.
🐣 I’ve been on the Upside Foods mailing list for years now and I was so thrilled to see they got their FDA approval a few days ago. Here’s hoping the technology will bring lots of new people to the table, reduce suffering for billions of animals, and improve ecological conditions for us all … bon appetit!
🐣 the future we have been waiting for
🐣I would love to try this.
Likewise, I wanna know what they feed the muscular tissue cells & what does the end product look like?
Did they use a Cornish Cross? Bresse?
Loved it. I'd love to see more videos like this in the future with smart potential solutions of dealing with climate and other issues. 🐣
I have been waiting for lab-grown meat for years! We need this. 🐣
No we don’t. We already have GMO foods causing cancer - thus those who can afford ‘organic foods’ purchase nonGMO organic foods.
@@BmoreBetterNOW You've bought into conspiracy theories and marketing scams. There's no scientific evidence of GMO foods causing cancer in humans. However, there is scientific evidence of GMO foods benefiting humans. From longer shelf lives of foods, to plants modified to grow in more places or at different times of year, and plants growing more quickly so two harvests can happen when there used to be only one, to food engineered with more nutritional value, to foods requiring less fertilizer and pesticides, to foods that are more resistant to crop diseases, to animals that require fewer antibiotics. That's not to say there are no downsides to GMOs. Things like possible increases in allergens if the wrong genes are swapped and "Big Pharma" using patents to keep crops from small farms and jack up prices are certainly concerns. And remember, pretty much EVERY food has already been altered by humans using selective breeding and cross-breeding over the last 10,000 years. We just have a lot more control now to get the outcomes we want.
🐣 Can't wait to try it!!
Can you PLEASE PLEASE Pl..EASE make a video on how cement was made and developed.
I'm a civil engineering student who LOVES your way of explaining things here and I really want to know the cement story in your style.
I BEG YOU. just once, please consider this and make a video on it I would be soooooooooo grateful!
This was a wild watch!! And presented in a very palatable light that came to be a much greater shock than the actual method of meat production. 🐣
12:58 Loved the included quote offering insight & examples of the difficulties of feeling the progress made in the early stages of starting any development/change, as it's an important thing for one to be aware of if you are to be dedicated to the changes you're making. Looking back at the initial starting period will always raise questions of what could have been done better, because hindsight is 20/20 in the face of experience. Getting that experience will have sometimes required that initial stumbling to get on your feet before running.